Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Charles Galpin wrote: > > i'd be interested in hearing just how smoothly the process of setting > > up that 8100 as a dual boot machine goes. i got an 8100 a few months > > ago and, yes, it came pre-installed with windows > choice i made>, since i had no intention of running windows whatever. > > the instant i got it, i blasted the windows install and installed > > red hat, but not before i noticed that, naturally, the pre-installed > > windows takes up the whole disk, and i suspect it will do the same > > with yours. I haven't tried it with an 8100, but my 8000 worked just fine with 3 operating systems. (Win98, NT4.0 and RedHat 7.0) And the 9000 that replaced it will be running 98, XP and 7.2 as soon as I get the time to get it set up. > > this means you can't just add red hat, you have to downsize > > windows first. and before you think, hey, no problem, i'll just > > *re-install* windows on a smaller partition, think again. what > > you will likely get is not a windows install CD, it will be a > > windows *reinstall* CD -- that is, no original media but a CD > > that just lets you recover to your original layout. these days, > > dell (and others, i assume) not shipping original media. they're > > being totally sleazy and shipping only enough to let you recover > > if you trash your original install. > Actually the Toshiba Recovery CD isn't bad. (And you don't really want to install Windows on a Toshiba laptop any other way--even if you get all of the drivers from Toshiba, for some reason stability suffers.) There is an option to do a custom install using existing partitions. It creates a special boot floppy with the required info. But it is probably easier to use Partition Magic and shrink your Windows partition. (Thats what I did on my 9000) -ray ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Yes you can reinstall XP from the Dell XP-reinstall media on an altered (at least from what came partitioned from Dell originally). There does need to be a Fat32 or NTFS partition available (and an s2d one as well if you're going to use that feature). Bruce rpjday wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Adam Getchell wrote: > > > > > Originally to: All > > > > > > Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP > > > already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, > > > write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I > > > need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? > > > > Yes, grub can boot both fine, while installed in the MBR. You are best off > > installing windows, then linux. > > > > I can't help you with resising XP - i just wiped it clean and started > > over. > > i'd be interested in hearing just how smoothly the process of setting > up that 8100 as a dual boot machine goes. i got an 8100 a few months > ago and, yes, it came pre-installed with windows choice i made>, since i had no intention of running windows whatever. > > the instant i got it, i blasted the windows install and installed > red hat, but not before i noticed that, naturally, the pre-installed > windows takes up the whole disk, and i suspect it will do the same > with yours. > > this means you can't just add red hat, you have to downsize > windows first. and before you think, hey, no problem, i'll just > *re-install* windows on a smaller partition, think again. what > you will likely get is not a windows install CD, it will be a > windows *reinstall* CD -- that is, no original media but a CD > that just lets you recover to your original layout. these days, > dell (and others, i assume) not shipping original media. they're > being totally sleazy and shipping only enough to let you recover > if you trash your original install. > > just for the fun of it, i called dell, pretended to be a real idiot, > and asked how, since i installed linux, how do i get back to windows, > and feigned outrage as the tech support person tried to tell me that > it couldn't be done. eventually, he fessed up and admitted that, > yes, that *reinstall* CD could be used to do a fresh install, > as long as there was a DOS partition waiting on the disk for it. > i'm not at all convinced he knew what he was talking about, > and i've never tried it, but if you want to provide some useful > info, when you get your 8100, document everything you have to do > to get a dual boot system, and let us know. i'm definitely curious. > > rday > > p.s. naturally, another option is to downsize the windows partition > using something like FIPS or partition magic. in any case, i'd still > like to hear how things go. > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Bruce Kall Mayo Foundation Rochester, MN e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (507) 255-4768 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
- Original Message - From: "rpjday" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I can't help you with resising XP - i just wiped it clean and started > > over. > > i'd be interested in hearing just how smoothly the process of setting > up that 8100 as a dual boot machine goes. i got an 8100 a few months > ago and, yes, it came pre-installed with windows choice i made>, since i had no intention of running windows whatever. > > the instant i got it, i blasted the windows install and installed > red hat, but not before i noticed that, naturally, the pre-installed > windows takes up the whole disk, and i suspect it will do the same > with yours. > > this means you can't just add red hat, you have to downsize > windows first. and before you think, hey, no problem, i'll just > *re-install* windows on a smaller partition, think again. what > you will likely get is not a windows install CD, it will be a > windows *reinstall* CD -- that is, no original media but a CD > that just lets you recover to your original layout. these days, > dell (and others, i assume) not shipping original media. they're > being totally sleazy and shipping only enough to let you recover > if you trash your original install. Dell gave me real media - standard XP plus a bunch of disks containg apps, utilities etc. In fact, mine came with w2k installed, but an XP license on the sticker. All it took was a phone call to get them to send me a XP CD. With the CDs they provide you can intall windows anyway you like (or dislike :) ) It went very smoothly once I stopped trying to get both w2k and XP on it 9as well as Linux). Just do windows first, then linux. charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Adam Getchell wrote: > > > Originally to: All > > > > Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP > > already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, > > write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I > > need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? > > Yes, grub can boot both fine, while installed in the MBR. You are best off > installing windows, then linux. > > I can't help you with resising XP - i just wiped it clean and started > over. i'd be interested in hearing just how smoothly the process of setting up that 8100 as a dual boot machine goes. i got an 8100 a few months ago and, yes, it came pre-installed with windows , since i had no intention of running windows whatever. the instant i got it, i blasted the windows install and installed red hat, but not before i noticed that, naturally, the pre-installed windows takes up the whole disk, and i suspect it will do the same with yours. this means you can't just add red hat, you have to downsize windows first. and before you think, hey, no problem, i'll just *re-install* windows on a smaller partition, think again. what you will likely get is not a windows install CD, it will be a windows *reinstall* CD -- that is, no original media but a CD that just lets you recover to your original layout. these days, dell (and others, i assume) not shipping original media. they're being totally sleazy and shipping only enough to let you recover if you trash your original install. just for the fun of it, i called dell, pretended to be a real idiot, and asked how, since i installed linux, how do i get back to windows, and feigned outrage as the tech support person tried to tell me that it couldn't be done. eventually, he fessed up and admitted that, yes, that *reinstall* CD could be used to do a fresh install, as long as there was a DOS partition waiting on the disk for it. i'm not at all convinced he knew what he was talking about, and i've never tried it, but if you want to provide some useful info, when you get your 8100, document everything you have to do to get a dual boot system, and let us know. i'm definitely curious. rday p.s. naturally, another option is to downsize the windows partition using something like FIPS or partition magic. in any case, i'd still like to hear how things go. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Adam Getchell wrote: > Originally to: All > > Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP > already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, > write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I > need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? Yes, grub can boot both fine, while installed in the MBR. You are best off installing windows, then linux. I can't help you with resising XP - i just wiped it clean and started over. hth charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Originally to: All Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? - Original Message - From: "Bret Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:16 AM Subject: Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop > Michael Scottaline wrote: > > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 > > Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it > > > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > > > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > > > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > > > > > Two real questions before I start. > > > > > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > > > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? > > > > > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > > > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > > > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and > > > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I > > > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > > > > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to > > > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > > > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > > > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get > > > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > > > since 6.2 I should install? > > == > > I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours > > with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the installation > > write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose > > the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite > > similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no > > problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi > > support in the kernel it built. HTH, > > Mike > > > Outstanding ! > > Thanks for the info Mike. Seems like a sweet little machine. > > Bret > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list <-> Gateway Information. This message originated from a Fidonet System (http://www.fidonet.org) and was gated at TCOB1 (http://www.tcob1.net) Please do not respond direct to this message but via the list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On 19 Dec 2001, Justin Ellison wrote: > Go to www.whacked.net - you should be able to find it from there. > > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 20:46, Charles Galpin wrote: > > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 18:05, Justin Ellison wrote: > > > Adam, > > > > > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 as well, and I *highly* recommend you > > > subscribe the the linux-dell-laptops mailing list at > > > http://www.yahoo.com/groups/linux-dell-laptops. This is an excellent > > > laptop, and if planned out correctly, works great with Linux. Read the > > > FAQ, it has details about setting up a suspend to disk partition as well > > > as your other partitions. It also goes over setting up the rest of the > > > hardware. > > > > Hi Justin > > > > I just got an I8100 today. Where is this FAQ you speak of? I can't find > > it on the linux-dell-laptops archive on yahoo. i just tripped across another site for i8k support -- http://people.debian.org/~dz/i8k. this seems to be the home site for the rpm you can find at freshrpms.net. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Eno River Technologies, Chapel Hill NC Unix, Linux and Open Source corporate training ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 06:58, rpjday wrote: > On 19 Dec 2001, Justin Ellison wrote: > > > Go to www.whacked.net - you should be able to find it from there. > > > > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 20:46, Charles Galpin wrote: > > > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 18:05, Justin Ellison wrote: > > > > Adam, > > > > > > > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 as well, and I *highly* recommend you > > > > subscribe the the linux-dell-laptops mailing list at > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/groups/linux-dell-laptops. This is an excellent > > > > laptop, and if planned out correctly, works great with Linux. Read the > > > > FAQ, it has details about setting up a suspend to disk partition as well > > > > as your other partitions. It also goes over setting up the rest of the > > > > hardware. > > > > > > Hi Justin > > > > > > I just got an I8100 today. Where is this FAQ you speak of? I can't find > > > it on the linux-dell-laptops archive on yahoo. > > i've been running rh 7.2 on an inspiron 8100 for a couple of months now -- > love it, just love it. apparently, there's a collection of i8k user-space > utilities you can have some fun with, prebuilt rpm, at www.freshrpms.net > -- look for "i8kutils". i'm just about to see what these are all about. > > and FYI, the nvidia drivers work just fine on my ultra xga screen. if you > have any trouble with that, drop me a line. Thanks. So far everything has gone fine. As you said, the nvidia drivers were easy to install and work great - you have to love 1600x1200 on a laptop. Sound and ethernet (both built in and wireless) work automagically as pretty much everything else did. It looks like we need to compile in a kernel module to make the i8k stuff work. I installed it and got that far. When I do my kernel burn in test, I'll mod the kernel config. First off I need to make sure it works ok under w2k - aparrantly some people are experiencing lockups due to nvidia driver problems. I've had it lock up on me twice, but it's hard to tell what happened since it was idle at the time. I am having trouble finding a css library for xine to play encrypted DVDs. I seem to be able to play unencrypted DVDs ok, but with an older (maybe .4?) version with support for encrypted DVDs I couldn't get sound to work. Anyone have a newish version of xine that works with encryptred DVDs? Under w2k I can hot swap the floppy/DVD, so I'm hoping to find a way to do this under linux too. Linux does this happily with hot-swap hard drive carriers as long as there is a drive in when you boot. Without it, linux somehow needs to be told to rescan the IDE bus and detect the device. I believe the same needs to occur here with the floppy/dvd switching. Anyone know how to do this? Oh, I had to do some manual rpm conflict resolution toget ximian gnome to install - right after a fresh 7.2 install. I dunno. otherwise very happy. charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On 19 Dec 2001, Justin Ellison wrote: > Go to www.whacked.net - you should be able to find it from there. > > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 20:46, Charles Galpin wrote: > > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 18:05, Justin Ellison wrote: > > > Adam, > > > > > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 as well, and I *highly* recommend you > > > subscribe the the linux-dell-laptops mailing list at > > > http://www.yahoo.com/groups/linux-dell-laptops. This is an excellent > > > laptop, and if planned out correctly, works great with Linux. Read the > > > FAQ, it has details about setting up a suspend to disk partition as well > > > as your other partitions. It also goes over setting up the rest of the > > > hardware. > > > > Hi Justin > > > > I just got an I8100 today. Where is this FAQ you speak of? I can't find > > it on the linux-dell-laptops archive on yahoo. i've been running rh 7.2 on an inspiron 8100 for a couple of months now -- love it, just love it. apparently, there's a collection of i8k user-space utilities you can have some fun with, prebuilt rpm, at www.freshrpms.net -- look for "i8kutils". i'm just about to see what these are all about. and FYI, the nvidia drivers work just fine on my ultra xga screen. if you have any trouble with that, drop me a line. rday ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Go to www.whacked.net - you should be able to find it from there. On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 20:46, Charles Galpin wrote: > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 18:05, Justin Ellison wrote: > > Adam, > > > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 as well, and I *highly* recommend you > > subscribe the the linux-dell-laptops mailing list at > > http://www.yahoo.com/groups/linux-dell-laptops. This is an excellent > > laptop, and if planned out correctly, works great with Linux. Read the > > FAQ, it has details about setting up a suspend to disk partition as well > > as your other partitions. It also goes over setting up the rest of the > > hardware. > > Hi Justin > > I just got an I8100 today. Where is this FAQ you speak of? I can't find > it on the linux-dell-laptops archive on yahoo. > > tia > charles > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 20:07, Adam Getchell wrote: > Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP > already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, > write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I > need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? To answer your question, yes. Assuming you have an available partition to install Red Hat on, the installer will setup GRUB for you, and allow you to provide a label to boot XP with. Now, if you have to repartition like I did, you can install in either order, but it's simpler to reinstall XP first, then linux. The reason is that windows screws up GRUB so you have to fdisk /mbr it to get windows to boot, then you need to boot off your linux boot floopy to reinstall grub before you can boot both again. So, in short anything is possible but the simplest is windows first, then linux, grub in MBR. hth charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Galpin wrote: >> I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 as well, and I *highly* recommend you >> subscribe the the linux-dell-laptops mailing list at >> http://www.yahoo.com/groups/linux-dell-laptops. This is an excellent >> laptop, and if planned out correctly, works great with Linux. Read the >> FAQ, it has details about setting up a suspend to disk partition as well >> as your other partitions. It also goes over setting up the rest of the >> hardware. > >Hi Justin > >I just got an I8100 today. Where is this FAQ you speak of? I can't find >it on the linux-dell-laptops archive on yahoo. I don't know 'bout the 8100, but my 7500 doesn't care _what_ runs it: it fourple(tm) boots Win98, OpenBSD, Red Hat Linux, and Win2000. :^) Easiest way to handle the suspend-to-disk is to park a suspend file on a FAT32 partition, if you have one. If not, you can create a partition for this purpose and then ignore it. - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPCACbb9BpdPKTBGtEQK3EQCg7BGyYUMeiHZSfHJlr+RNNIOI3ggAoIeL NKmZ3Opg6Wmm7n4USSATMqsO =FHhb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 18:05, Justin Ellison wrote: > Adam, > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 as well, and I *highly* recommend you > subscribe the the linux-dell-laptops mailing list at > http://www.yahoo.com/groups/linux-dell-laptops. This is an excellent > laptop, and if planned out correctly, works great with Linux. Read the > FAQ, it has details about setting up a suspend to disk partition as well > as your other partitions. It also goes over setting up the rest of the > hardware. Hi Justin I just got an I8100 today. Where is this FAQ you speak of? I can't find it on the linux-dell-laptops archive on yahoo. tia charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Adam, I have a Dell Inspiron 8100 as well, and I *highly* recommend you subscribe the the linux-dell-laptops mailing list at http://www.yahoo.com/groups/linux-dell-laptops. This is an excellent laptop, and if planned out correctly, works great with Linux. Read the FAQ, it has details about setting up a suspend to disk partition as well as your other partitions. It also goes over setting up the rest of the hardware. HTH, Justin On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 19:07, Adam Getchell wrote: > Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP > already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, > write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I > need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bret Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:16 AM > Subject: Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop > > > > Michael Scottaline wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 > > > Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set > it > > > > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > > > > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > > > > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > > > > > > > Two real questions before I start. > > > > > > > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > > > > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting > else? > > > > > > > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > > > > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > > > > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 > and > > > > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long > I > > > > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > > > > > > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going > to > > > > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > > > > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > > > > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps > get > > > > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > > > > since 6.2 I should install? > > > == > > > I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours > > > with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the > installation > > > write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose > > > the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite > > > similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no > > > problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi > > > support in the kernel it built. HTH, > > > Mike > > > > > Outstanding ! > > > > Thanks for the info Mike. Seems like a sweet little machine. > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > ___ > > Redhat-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Adam Getchell wrote: > > Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP > already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, > write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I > need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? > Here is what I found while installing RH 7.2 on a sony pcg-fxa32 notebook with the following hardware: amd duron 900MHx processor 256 MB RAM ATI Rage Mobility USB Firewire VIA 82C686 (Apollo super south) chipset 8X DVD 15GB HD with 2 partitions Windows XP installed on the first one (~6GB) ext'd partition ~9GB First off let me say that the installation went well. I did the laptop install with a few extra packages and used disk druid to partition the drive. I deleted the single big logical in the extended partition and installed seperate partitions for /, /var ... I used up all the room on the device. I used grub and let it put it on the MBR. It saw the windows install and let me name it what I wanted to. I used xp for those of you that are curious. rebooted and then ..(drum roll please) aieee kernel panic. sucafractchitgrrr. several reboots and alot of googleing later I found a bug in bugzilla.redhat.com ( Bugzilla Bug - 55040) This said to pass noathlon to the kernel via grub. I did, and viola! up and running! I have not played with the sound or tried to play a dvd yet but i did get the cd to play a music cd so I guess the sound is working. xp boots like always very pretty interface BTW I am pleased enough that I am about to put all my stuff from the old dell on the new sony and give the dell to our salesman. I reall wanted to get this info out there since the noathlon thing was not something I had seen before at least no remembered seeming it, and wanted to save someone a lot of time if they are getting apparently random segfaults and kernel oopes with a 7.2 installation on an athlon or duron machine. Now I can go digging to see if the kernel guys have figured out how to tweak the chipset so that the athlon optimizations can be used. Thanks for everyone who offered their experience and help. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? - Original Message - From: "Bret Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:16 AM Subject: Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop > Michael Scottaline wrote: > > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 > > Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it > > > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > > > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > > > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > > > > > Two real questions before I start. > > > > > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > > > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? > > > > > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > > > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > > > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and > > > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I > > > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > > > > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to > > > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > > > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > > > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get > > > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > > > since 6.2 I should install? > > == > > I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours > > with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the installation > > write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose > > the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite > > similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no > > problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi > > support in the kernel it built. HTH, > > Mike > > > Outstanding ! > > Thanks for the info Mike. Seems like a sweet little machine. > > Bret > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Michael Scottaline wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 > Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it > > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > > > Two real questions before I start. > > > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? > > > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and > > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I > > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to > > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get > > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > > since 6.2 I should install? > == > I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours > with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the installation > write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose > the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite > similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no > problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi > support in the kernel it built. HTH, > Mike > Outstanding ! Thanks for the info Mike. Seems like a sweet little machine. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > Two real questions before I start. > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > since 6.2 I should install? == I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the installation write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi support in the kernel it built. HTH, Mike -- "It takes a minute to have a crush on someone, an hour to like someone and a day to love someone but it takes a lifetime to forget someone." --Plato ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
dual boot install on new XP laptop
I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. Two real questions before I start. 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I thought I would ask the gurus before starting. 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop installation option. I have never done one of the standard config installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps since 6.2 I should install? TIA Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
