[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications, and other stability comments.

2003-11-26 Thread Kevin Custer
mch wrote:

>I think much of the problem is in the tuning caps on both the exciter and PA.
>
>Joe M.
>
>ac0y5 wrote:
>  
>
>>It seems a lot of the complaints are from oscillator drift and tuning drift. 
>>I have a few questions Does anyone know if the main problem resides in the 
>>exciter, or the power amp?
>>

It has been my experience that any exciter or receiver that uses 
variable capacitors for the tuning elements has a poorer tuning 
stability.  The Spectrum equipment seems worse than any other, and the 
problem *may* stem from the quality of the original parts used.  
Motorola identified this stability 'problem' many years ago and decided 
to use variable inductors where they could.  My Micor repeaters have 
stayed in a perfect state of tuning since installed, for many, this is 
getting to be 15+ years. 

The biggest reason manufacturers use capacitors for tuning rather than 
inductors is it allows for greater operating (tuning) range with no 
change in parts.  In other words they can tune a greater span of Mhz 
with the same part values.  This 'feature' is nice because some 
commercial radios will more easily tune the ham band and retain original 
specifications, but at the expense of tuning stability.  The GE Mastr II 
is a great radio, and is very popular because it tunes most of the ham 
bands without much, if any, modification, but they certainly don't have 
the stability of radio sets that utilize inductor tuning elements.  All 
of the Mastr II's I have, have required retuning during the same time 
frame as above, (usually one a year for optimal performance) but they 
too use variable caps for the tuning.

It only stands to reason that something that is limited to certain 
tuning 'ranges' will provide better stability.  Inductor tuning doesn't 
lend itself to being pulled too far, so making one of these radios that 
were originally configured for the commercial band tune the ham band is 
more difficult because part change-out is a necessity, but you certainly 
don't have to worry about the thing going out of tune.

Spectrum purposely designed their equipment to tune from DC to light, 
and while you can make them work very well, just don't expect them to 
stay.
Oh, to answer the rest of your question, in my opinion, every part of 
the Spectrum Radio is unstable, whether it be the receiver, exciter or PA.

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-26 Thread Lee Williams
I think its a combination of inferior components and poor design. The
receiver is quite sensitive,but not very selective and overloads easily. You
would be better off dropping some GE or /\/\ boards in it.
73,Lee

- Original Message - 
From: "ac0y5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF
Manual]]


: It seems a lot of the complaints are from oscillator drift and
: tuning drift. I have a few questions Does anyone know if the main
: problem resides in the exciter, or the power amp? My plan would
: eliminate all problems related to the oscillator because the Tx and
: Rx will be generated from a pair of Numerically Controlled
: Oscillators well filtered. I have already designed the entire
: circuit. Now, if Anyone knows where the problem may lay then I will
: be able to take care of the problem an external PA that I have or an
: exciter that I can buy cheaply. The power supply should be okay and
: it has been stated that the receiver is quite sensitive. If
: necessary I can add a 5 or 7 pole helical resonator to the front end.
:
: 73
: AC0Y
:
:
:
:
: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:
: > The Siouxland Amateur Radio Association in Sioux City, Iowa bought
: a used
: > Spectrum repeater on 2 meters about 3 years ago for something like
: $1100,
: > (with duplexer) fully operational.  I attended a meeting of the
: repeater
: > managers in Sioux City about 2 weeks ago & they were saying they
: wish they had
: > never bought it.  (I tried to tell them not to buy it but they
: ignored me!!)
:
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Fw: If guys designed Christmas wrapping paper ....

2003-11-26 Thread Thomas Oliver





The rangers not going to like this one 
Yogi.
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted MIB schematic, Mostar Interface Box

2003-11-26 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
 
"Could that be the same as the MIB used with the pagers? "


So far as I am aware the MIB = Mostar Interface Box [01-80355A26] was 
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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-26 Thread mch
I think much of the problem is in the
tuning caps on both the exciter and PA.

Joe M.

ac0y5 wrote:
> 
> It seems a lot of the complaints are from oscillator drift and
> tuning drift. I have a few questions Does anyone know if the main
> problem resides in the exciter, or the power amp? My plan would
> eliminate all problems related to the oscillator because the Tx and
> Rx will be generated from a pair of Numerically Controlled
> Oscillators well filtered. I have already designed the entire
> circuit. Now, if Anyone knows where the problem may lay then I will
> be able to take care of the problem an external PA that I have or an
> exciter that I can buy cheaply. The power supply should be okay and
> it has been stated that the receiver is quite sensitive. If
> necessary I can add a 5 or 7 pole helical resonator to the front end.
> 
> 73
> AC0Y
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > The Siouxland Amateur Radio Association in Sioux City, Iowa bought
> a used
> > Spectrum repeater on 2 meters about 3 years ago for something like
> $1100,
> > (with duplexer) fully operational.  I attended a meeting of the
> repeater
> > managers in Sioux City about 2 weeks ago & they were saying they
> wish they had
> > never bought it.  (I tried to tell them not to buy it but they
> ignored me!!)
> 
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Fw: If guys designed Christmas wrapping paper ....

2003-11-26 Thread NØATH





Sorry Guys - not the kind of thing I normally send 
to the group - I guess I just messed up
Please accept my apology !! Dave  // 
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  Cool paper though..mikeAt 10:22 PM 11/26/03 -0500, 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Fw: If guys designed Christmas wrapping paper ....

2003-11-26 Thread Mike Perryman



Cool paper though..
mike

At 10:22 PM 11/26/03 -0500, you wrote:
I
don't think was related to repeater-building!

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[Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-26 Thread ac0y5
It seems a lot of the complaints are from oscillator drift and 
tuning drift. I have a few questions Does anyone know if the main 
problem resides in the exciter, or the power amp? My plan would 
eliminate all problems related to the oscillator because the Tx and 
Rx will be generated from a pair of Numerically Controlled 
Oscillators well filtered. I have already designed the entire 
circuit. Now, if Anyone knows where the problem may lay then I will 
be able to take care of the problem an external PA that I have or an 
exciter that I can buy cheaply. The power supply should be okay and 
it has been stated that the receiver is quite sensitive. If 
necessary I can add a 5 or 7 pole helical resonator to the front end.

73
AC0Y   




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> The Siouxland Amateur Radio Association in Sioux City, Iowa bought 
a used
> Spectrum repeater on 2 meters about 3 years ago for something like 
$1100,
> (with duplexer) fully operational.  I attended a meeting of the 
repeater
> managers in Sioux City about 2 weeks ago & they were saying they 
wish they had
> never bought it.  (I tried to tell them not to buy it but they 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: Fw: If guys designed Christmas wrapping paper ....

2003-11-26 Thread Corey Dean N3FE





I 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Repeater 500 kHz split

2003-11-26 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
How many cavities do you have for 500kc split? A transistor pa with 1
meg takes at least 4 to run 40 watts, this is a split site? Is your
antenna a shunt style?

John Clark wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had any success or failure in using a 60 watt Mitrek for a 
> repeater on a 500 kHz seperation?
> Should I use two seperate Mitreks for TX / RX to prevent internal desence?
> Should I reconsider my frequency pair and use a 1 MHz?
> In my installation, the radio will be on a tower in a cabnet less than 10 ft 
> from the radiating antenna. Will that give me trouble?
> My frequency is 51.2 - 51.7
> 
> Thanks for your comments and suggestions,
> 
> John - KI4AWK
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Regency Repeater

2003-11-26 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
I doubt if this can be used anymore as the spectrum is narrow band, if
this is 4 or 5 plus years old it may be moved to ham band?

> "Daniel V. Keane" wrote:
> 
> I have recently acquired a Regency Repeater.  I know nothing about it
> and am looking for any information or manuals.  The crystals will need
> to be changed for GMRS use (462.550).
> 
> It says: FCC DATA:  Regency UHF Repeater Micro Com UO1R
> 
> What is the difference between above and a U1OR?  As I have searched
> the web and this model number comes up, will this manual give any
> useful information?
> 
> TIA
> dk
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Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 and People Finder

2003-11-26 Thread robert.purvis
Got it working Virden.  Thanks for help.  You confirmed it was single pair 
audio,  so it was simple matter tracing cable with standard telco signal tracer.

Best regards,  Bob
> 
> From: Virden Clark Beckman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/11/26 Wed AM 07:32:18 EST
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 and People Finder
> 
> Use a butt set and ring out the lines - you should hear your audio going
> in and out from the unit. Of course without manuals for each layer of
> components you are going to be doing a lot of guessing what they really
> are for, and troubleshooting will be very embarrasing.
> 
> Robert Purvis VE3INY wrote:
> > 
> > Our factory has a Motorola People Finder paging terminal,  connected to an
> > MSR2000 repeater about 2000 feet away.
> > 
> > The cable from the back of the paging terminal disappears into a conduit in
> > the front office.  Wires exiting a similar conduit in the repeater room are
> > connected to the MSR2000.
> > 
> > The cable exiting the conduit in the repeater room is different make and
> > gauge,  so I'm assuming a junction box somewhere in between.
> > 
> > The original installer used MSR2000 disc. in,  tx. in, ptt, cor, ground and
> > a connection to backplane (exciter) J102 pin 15.
> > 
> > Am I to assume the output signals from the People Finder terminal are
> > analog,  and connect direct to the MSR ?  Or are the output signals from the
> > People Finder digital,  connecting to an interface somewhere before
> > connecting to the MSR ?
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated.  I can't get a service guy in until next
> > week,  and we need system up and running tomorrow.  Don't seem to be getting
> > correct signals from People Finder thru to the repeater.
> > 
> > Best regards,  Bob VE3INY
> > 
> > - Original Message -
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> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify an high Split master Pa ??
> > 
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> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify an high Split master Pa ??
> > >
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> > > > > i install a pa on a Master 2 repeater Low Split Vhf of 105 watts
> > output,
> > > > > i have try to balance de pa and when we begin to tune the 2
> > > potentiometer
> > > > for the matching of impedance of the natenna we hear a tone
> > > > > FROM the transmit audio of the Master 2.
> > > > > The duplexer ,6 cans Dodge is in excellnt state and tune at more of
> > 100
> > > db
> > > > reject ,receiver and transmetter of the Master 2 are well  tune .
> > > > > So i am beginning to suspect the Pa,where should i look to know if
> > this
> > > is
> > > > in fact an HIGH SPLIT PA .
> > > >
> > > > What potentiometers are you turning for a match ?  The ones I am
> > thinking
> > > of
> > > > are for SWR protection and not for matching to the antenna.  They are
> > near
> > > > the back of the amplifier board.
> > > >
> > > > Some amps do have matching capacitors  on a board to the right of the
> > main
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted MIB schematic, Mostar Interface Box

2003-11-26 Thread Neil McKie

  Could that be the same as the MIB used with the pagers? 

  Neil - WA6KLA 

nj902 wrote:
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Forestal
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "... Does anyone have a MIB schematic..."
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, even when you bought a MIB new from Motorola, the
> documentation that came with it did not contain a schematic.
> 
> The MIB schematic is on the "WANTED" hit list at Batlabs.  If they
> don't have it yet - prospects aren't too good.
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted MIB schematic, Mostar Interface Box

2003-11-26 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Forestal 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"... Does anyone have a MIB schematic..."



Unfortunately, even when you bought a MIB new from Motorola, the 
documentation that came with it did not contain a schematic.  

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[Repeater-Builder] Wanted MIB schematic, Mostar Interface Box

2003-11-26 Thread Bruce Forestal
MIBs are almost non-existant these days.  Does anyone have a MIB
schematic they are willing to share?

Thanks in advance,

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[Repeater-Builder] Manual for VHF Mostar

2003-11-26 Thread Bruce Forestal
I'm looking for a manual for a VHF Mostar, the display version is best
but the NVR version will work too.  I can pay via PayPal, cashiers
check.

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Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications SCR1000 VHF]

2003-11-26 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Either you really like the under-dog, or you crave attention.  This issue had
been going on for MANY years.  There is NO WAY that Spectrum could NOT know of
their reputation. (Which ranks at about the same level as Genave FM gear & the
early Regency gear)


ac0y5 wrote:
> Would anyone posting to the SCR1000 stuff mind if I foward all of
> them to Spectrum and ask them to respond to them? They should know
> about their reputation maybe they would like to respond one way or
> another.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ritron RR-450

2003-11-26 Thread uplink28



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[Repeater-Builder] Regency Repeater

2003-11-26 Thread Daniel V. Keane





I have recently acquired a Regency 
Repeater.  I know nothing about it and am looking for any information or 
manuals.  The crystals will need to be changed for GMRS use 
(462.550).  
 
It says: FCC DATA:  Regency UHF 
Repeater Micro Com UO1R
 
What is the difference between above and a 
U1OR?  As I have searched the web and this model number comes up, will this 
manual give any useful information?
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Repeater 500 kHz split

2003-11-26 Thread John Clark
Has anyone had any success or failure in using a 60 watt Mitrek for a repeater 
on a 500 kHz seperation?
Should I use two seperate Mitreks for TX / RX to prevent internal desence?
Should I reconsider my frequency pair and use a 1 MHz?
In my installation, the radio will be on a tower in a cabnet less than 10 ft 
from the radiating antenna. Will that give me trouble?
My frequency is 51.2 - 51.7

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-26 Thread Jim
Tom Manning wrote:
> Adi
> The Syntor makes a very good vhf mobile radio but requires an extensive
> modification.  Go to www.piexx.com/synDoc/syndoc.html.
> This makes a very good mobile radio.
> Tom Manning, af4ug
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

No, it doesn't-just program it and tune it up. No mods.
The link you provided is a *really* nice add-on (wish I could afford it 
for my low-band X), but isn't absolutely necessary to make a good 
functional radio on ham freqs.
BTW, you have to back up to the main page-the syndoc.html page isn't there.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication et al.

2003-11-26 Thread Gene Colson
Regency Low band Worlds first scanning transmitter. Wasn't planned that 
way but if vswr was over 1:1.01 it covered the spectrum...
Gene W7UVH


At 03:51 AM 11/26/03, you wrote:

>Funny you should mention Regency. My nickname for them has always been
>"re-junk-cy."
>
>And while we're bashing different manufacturers of repeater equipment,
>there's at least one controller out there that is a real dog. Been several
>revisions to it, but it stays a dog.
>
>Need we go on about antennas. Some real scrap aluminum and fiberglass out
>there.
>
>Yet people continue to use these products and are happy with them. I guess
>to each their own.
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications SCR1000 VHF

2003-11-26 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Based on his enthusiasm for what lies ahead, I am betting they hire him
if he can make it stable for a one month period. Then he can take calls
from all of us about "why does it drift away so far when the tempurature
only changes 15 degrees in that room?". And he can have a spinning wheel
like the groucho marks show, but it will have only 2 parts - return the
unit to the factory for proper alignment and align per factory manual or
return to factory for proper alignmnet. If he is a careful entrepruner
he will invest in a hardware company selling wingnuts and recommend they
be shipped with each unit leaving the factory service department, this
will expidite the returns to the factory for proper alignment enhancing
revenue for both the hardware comapny and spectrum's tiring repair crew.

Neil McKie wrote:
> 
>   Would Spectrum take you to court?
> 
>   Neil
> 
> ac0y5 wrote:
> >
> > Would anyone posting to the SCR1000 stuff mind if I foward all of
> > them to Spectrum and ask them to respond to them? They should know
> > about their reputation maybe they would like to respond one way or
> > another.
> > 73 All
> > AC0Y
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum UHF machine

2003-11-26 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Not Edsel, that was a great car before it's time - like the dusenburg.
Spectrum is like a first time go cart, have motor will travel,
delivering newspapers in your hometown tomorrow and replacing the pony
express next week.

NØATH wrote:
> 
> Edsel perhaps?
> - Original Message -
> From: "mch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum UHF machine
> 
> > Actually, a MAC has a better reputation than a PC - mainly due to
> > Windows' instability, I think. In computers, there is no comparison to
> > Spectrum. In cars, I would compare a Spectrum to a Yugo or a Ford Pinto.
> >
> > (No, I don't have a Mac either - nor a Yugo, Pinto, or Spectrum.)
> >
> > Joe M.
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 and People Finder

2003-11-26 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Use a butt set and ring out the lines - you should hear your audio going
in and out from the unit. Of course without manuals for each layer of
components you are going to be doing a lot of guessing what they really
are for, and troubleshooting will be very embarrasing.

Robert Purvis VE3INY wrote:
> 
> Our factory has a Motorola People Finder paging terminal,  connected to an
> MSR2000 repeater about 2000 feet away.
> 
> The cable from the back of the paging terminal disappears into a conduit in
> the front office.  Wires exiting a similar conduit in the repeater room are
> connected to the MSR2000.
> 
> The cable exiting the conduit in the repeater room is different make and
> gauge,  so I'm assuming a junction box somewhere in between.
> 
> The original installer used MSR2000 disc. in,  tx. in, ptt, cor, ground and
> a connection to backplane (exciter) J102 pin 15.
> 
> Am I to assume the output signals from the People Finder terminal are
> analog,  and connect direct to the MSR ?  Or are the output signals from the
> People Finder digital,  connecting to an interface somewhere before
> connecting to the MSR ?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.  I can't get a service guy in until next
> week,  and we need system up and running tomorrow.  Don't seem to be getting
> correct signals from People Finder thru to the repeater.
> 
> Best regards,  Bob VE3INY
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ve2ckn,Gervais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify an high Split master Pa ??
> 
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> > - Original Message -
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> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Identify an high Split master Pa ??
> >
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> > > > hi,
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> output,
> > > > i have try to balance de pa and when we begin to tune the 2
> > potentiometer
> > > for the matching of impedance of the natenna we hear a tone
> > > > FROM the transmit audio of the Master 2.
> > > > The duplexer ,6 cans Dodge is in excellnt state and tune at more of
> 100
> > db
> > > reject ,receiver and transmetter of the Master 2 are well  tune .
> > > > So i am beginning to suspect the Pa,where should i look to know if
> this
> > is
> > > in fact an HIGH SPLIT PA .
> > >
> > > What potentiometers are you turning for a match ?  The ones I am
> thinking
> > of
> > > are for SWR protection and not for matching to the antenna.  They are
> near
> > > the back of the amplifier board.
> > >
> > > Some amps do have matching capacitors  on a board to the right of the
> main
> > > amplifier board.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication et al.

2003-11-26 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Funny you should mention Regency. My nickname for them has always been
"re-junk-cy."

And while we're bashing different manufacturers of repeater equipment,
there's at least one controller out there that is a real dog. Been several
revisions to it, but it stays a dog.

Need we go on about antennas. Some real scrap aluminum and fiberglass out
there.

Yet people continue to use these products and are happy with them. I guess
to each their own.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:44 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication et al.


> Gee, they could have had a Genave...
>
> Back in the late 70's both Gatesville, N5DDR/R, and Lampasas, W5GFR/R
> bought Spectrum 2M repeaters.  Gatesville had a phone patch, and
> Lampasas was stand alone.  Both used single antenna, and WP641
> duplexers.  Lampasas is dead.  Gatesville is still running without patch.
>
> Seems like there was a heat sink problem on DC regulator driver
> transistor, and some of the pretty pushbutton switches became
> un-reliable.  Also periodic (once a year or so) frequency adj was
> needed.  I do not recall any spurious transmit trouble or interference
> complaints.  Seems there was nothing really outstanding or really
> bad - just that in 1980 they were pretty inovative.  At that time
> MastrII was new, (ever give up on a 40W UHF IPA?)
> Mastr Pro was still current (FMR) RCA still had a CF1000,
> Moto had the Micor, and Aerotron was in the
> running.  Also Regency had a 100 Watt box.  We won't
> get into the E. F. Johnson line at that time (527) although
> the FleetCom II was a pretty nice box.
>
> BTW - Gatesville is still running, and Lampasas will be
> resurrected when time permits.  It also seems like the
> 146.97 folks in Waco had a HamTronics that was a real
> problem child and spurious, and don't know what became
> of the station.  Seems like they never got the problems
> solved.  My 2 cents,
>
> Happy Thanksgiving,
>
> steve
> nu5d
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communications SCR1000 VHF

2003-11-26 Thread Neil McKie

  Would Spectrum take you to court? 

  Neil 


ac0y5 wrote:
> 
> Would anyone posting to the SCR1000 stuff mind if I foward all of
> them to Spectrum and ask them to respond to them? They should know
> about their reputation maybe they would like to respond one way or
> another.
> 73 All
> AC0Y
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-26 Thread Neil McKie

   Try  http://www.piexx.com/synDoc/syndoc.html 

  Neil 


Tom Manning wrote:
> 
> Adi
> The Syntor makes a very good vhf mobile radio but requires an extensive
> modification.  Go to www.piexx.com/synDoc/syndoc.html.
> This makes a very good mobile radio.
> Tom Manning, af4ug
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Adi Linden wrote:
> 
> > >   The SRA Syntors have only one synthesizer ... is used in either
> > >  the receive or transmit mode.
> >
> > I guess no good for duplex then. I guess that a range III (150.8-162MHz)
> > Syntor is unsuitable for 144.39MHz, correct? I am asking just in case
> > someone did get them to work in the amateur radio band.
> >
> > Adi
> > --
> >Adi Linden  |  va3adi  |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |  http://adis.ca
> > +-+
> > IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario
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[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication et al.

2003-11-26 Thread Steve S. Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Gee, they could have had a Genave...

Back in the late 70's both Gatesville, N5DDR/R, and Lampasas, W5GFR/R
bought Spectrum 2M repeaters.  Gatesville had a phone patch, and
Lampasas was stand alone.  Both used single antenna, and WP641
duplexers.  Lampasas is dead.  Gatesville is still running without patch.

Seems like there was a heat sink problem on DC regulator driver
transistor, and some of the pretty pushbutton switches became
un-reliable.  Also periodic (once a year or so) frequency adj was
needed.  I do not recall any spurious transmit trouble or interference
complaints.  Seems there was nothing really outstanding or really
bad - just that in 1980 they were pretty inovative.  At that time
MastrII was new, (ever give up on a 40W UHF IPA?)
Mastr Pro was still current (FMR) RCA still had a CF1000,
Moto had the Micor, and Aerotron was in the
running.  Also Regency had a 100 Watt box.  We won't
get into the E. F. Johnson line at that time (527) although
the FleetCom II was a pretty nice box.

BTW - Gatesville is still running, and Lampasas will be
resurrected when time permits.  It also seems like the
146.97 folks in Waco had a HamTronics that was a real
problem child and spurious, and don't know what became
of the station.  Seems like they never got the problems
solved.  My 2 cents,

Happy Thanksgiving,

steve
nu5d

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To: 
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