Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread Neil McKie

  Ok, where is that? 

  Neil 

Coy Hilton wrote:
 
 Okay, Here is a GREAT alternative, next February about the second
 week end, come to OARCs HAMCATION. It's three days of great fun,
 neet toys for cheap AND, tailgates, not to mention the manufacturers
 and three or so buildings of goodies. We have the entire fair ground.
 Oh did I say it's GREAT FUN.
 73 and come and visit.
 AC0Y
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
  Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental Airlines
 thru Houston or
  American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights cancelled
 (or at least
  SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.
 
  Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60 cents
 a gallon
  more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was not a
 good year
  to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in the
 Denver
  area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top again
 either.
 
  Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year,
 though I
  remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in a row,
 maybe
  next year will be a dry one?
 
  (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)
 
  Bob NO6B
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamfest Notes

2004-05-19 Thread John
This was my first year at Dayton and I had a blast.  Even with the 
rain.  I came ready for the rain, so it wasn't a big deal.  I am 
ready to go back again next year.  

I do have to make a comment to MDM though, I was looking at some 
stuff they had, but I wanted to walk the rest of the flea market 
before I actually bought, well, by the time I made it through 
everything, I was worn out and on Saturday I headed right back to 
MDM's booth, to find them gone.   Most of my purchases were done on 
Saturday and Sunday, so Ted, I think you blew it by leaving early.

It was great meeting everyone and I look forward to next year.  Even 
with the flight delays, I didn't miss any of the Hamvention.


John
K6SJH
Pleasanton, CA


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 Back from Dayton with the obligatory cold from the airline 
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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread Rich Garcia
Orlando Fla... Bring the kids to see Micky and disappear for a day or
two

OARC= Orlando Amateur Radio Club

Make a 2 weekend trip of it and go to the Miami Hamboree one weekend, visit
Miami and Orlando during the week and then hit the Orlando Hamfest next
weekend and then enjoy the trip back home with all the toys.

Rich K4GPS
Jupiter FL.

-Original Message-
From: Neil McKie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:41 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]



  Ok, where is that?

  Neil

Coy Hilton wrote:

 Okay, Here is a GREAT alternative, next February about the second
 week end, come to OARCs HAMCATION. It's three days of great fun,
 neet toys for cheap AND, tailgates, not to mention the manufacturers
 and three or so buildings of goodies. We have the entire fair ground.
 Oh did I say it's GREAT FUN.
 73 and come and visit.
 AC0Y

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
  Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental Airlines
 thru Houston or
  American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights cancelled
 (or at least
  SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.
 
  Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60 cents
 a gallon
  more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was not a
 good year
  to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in the
 Denver
  area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top again
 either.
 
  Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year,
 though I
  remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in a row,
 maybe
  next year will be a dry one?
 
  (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)
 
  Bob NO6B


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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread Coy Hilton
Sorry Neil, Hamcation is held the second weekend mostly around 
February 14 th. in Orlando, Florida. Tons of great Hotel rooms, and 
it's really near the local BIG Three Theme Parks, Walt Disney World, 
Universal, and Sea World, as well as several smaller ones near by 
Including NASAs family attraction. There is a lot of fun for you at 
Hamcation and your families at the parks or hanging around the 
pools. If you like the beach, they are really nice beaches as close 
as 30 to 45 minutes away. Attend and have fun. Oh, did I say the 
weather is quite nice that time of the year.

73
AC0Y


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
   Ok, where is that? 
 
   Neil 
 
 Coy Hilton wrote:
  
  Okay, Here is a GREAT alternative, next February about the second
  week end, come to OARCs HAMCATION. It's three days of great fun,
  neet toys for cheap AND, tailgates, not to mention the 
manufacturers
  and three or so buildings of goodies. We have the entire fair 
ground.
  Oh did I say it's GREAT FUN.
  73 and come and visit.
  AC0Y
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
   Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental Airlines
  thru Houston or
   American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights cancelled
  (or at least
   SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.
  
   Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60 
cents
  a gallon
   more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was not a
  good year
   to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in the
  Denver
   area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top 
again
  either.
  
   Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year,
  though I
   remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in a 
row,
  maybe
   next year will be a dry one?
  
   (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)
  
   Bob NO6B
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater

2004-05-19 Thread kf4pxz
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k0jxi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Just wonder if anyone has used two 450 Delta S model radios with 
one as the receiver and one as the transmitter for a repeater
 
 Thinking that the narrowband models might have the needed isolation 
for installation
 
 Thanks, Dale

Hello Dale,

I have a pair of VHF Delta S's that I am using as a backup repeater - 
actually I have been using it for about two months now while I 
overhaul the 'ole Micor.  It works fantastic - good audio, plenty of 
RF - 110 watt Delta running at 60 watts.  The helical front end seems 
to work well as there is a 1/4 kW fire department paging transmitter 
on an adjacent tower about 500 yrds away.  I have heard that the 
Delta receiver is very similar to the Mastr III station rx.  We have 
a BpBr duplexer in place and there doesn't seem to be any problem 
with desense with the 600 kc split.  I would imagine that with the 5 
mHz split on UHF it would work real well.

I wired the two control head cables into one control head by 
connecting the BCD lines to both radios, the receive audio, speaker, 
 COR lines into the RX radio and the mic and PTT lines into the Tx 
radio.  There is information on one of the packet sites that tells 
you how to run the radio with no control head.  If you do that you 
will need to put your channel info into ch. 16 because the Delta 
selects the channels by grounding various combinations of the 4 BCD 
lines.  Ch. 16 is selected when none of the BCD lines are grounded.

It works so well that the work on the Micor has become a back-burner 
issue.

I did read somewhere that if you turn the power on the Delta too much 
it will go crazy and put out a bunch of spurs, so keep that in mind.

If you need any details drop me a note.

73
Robert







 
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread Neil McKie

  Hello ... 

Bob Dengler wrote:
 
 At 5/18/2004 05:26 PM, you wrote:
 Sorry Neil, Hamcation is held the second weekend mostly around
 February 14 th. in Orlando, Florida. Tons of great Hotel rooms, 
 and it's really near the local BIG Three Theme Parks, Walt Disney 
 World,
 
 I think part of what makes Dayton such a huge draw is it's location
 relative to the major (ham) population centers.  IIRC, it's a (long 
 in somecases) day's drive from central New York, Pittsburgh, 
 Philadelphia, Chicago, Nashville, etc.  The weather in Orlando may 
 be nicer but travel, lodging, etc. are much more costly. 

  I haven't travelled to that part of the country in several years. 
 Last time was in 1990? to the FEMA school in Emmittsburg, Maryland 
 for a class FEMA wanted input on.  

 
 If weather alone were the consideration, may I suggest the ARCA 
 Hamfest (formerly Ft. Tuthill Hamfest in Flagstaff) in Williams AZ, 
 July 2-4.  Last year temperatures were in the low to mid-70s  no 
 rain, though a quick thunderstorm did come through just the day 
 before.
 
 Bob NO6B 

  I thought about going last year ... but didn't 

  Neil - WA6KLA





 
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread Neil McKie

  Of course you 'never' twist my arm ... Nor would I twist your arm 
 to attend our annual convention in the Pacific Northwest. 

  A bit far to travel for you?  Florida is a bit far for me to 
 travel as well. 

  73, 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


Coy Hilton wrote:
 
 No arm twisting. Just a frendly Invitation. besides I would like 
 to meet you folks.
 73
 AC0Y
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
Oh ... way over ... there ...
 
I guess it'd be a fun place to drive to ... otherwise, how'd I
   get all of the stuff home?
 
Neil
 
  Rich Garcia wrote:
  
   Orlando Fla... Bring the kids to see Micky and disappear for a
 day
   or two
  
   OARC= Orlando Amateur Radio Club
  
   Make a 2 weekend trip of it and go to the Miami Hamboree one
   weekend, visit Miami and Orlando during the week and then hit
 the
   Orlando Hamfest next weekend and then enjoy the trip back home
   with all the toys.
  
   Rich K4GPS
   Jupiter FL.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Neil McKie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:41 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]
  
 Ok, where is that?
  
 Neil
  
   Coy Hilton wrote:
   
Okay, Here is a GREAT alternative, next February about the
 second
week end, come to OARCs HAMCATION. It's three days of great
 fun,
neet toys for cheap AND, tailgates, not to mention the
 manufacturers
and three or so buildings of goodies. We have the entire fair
 ground.
Oh did I say it's GREAT FUN.
73 and come and visit.
AC0Y
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
 Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental
 Airlines
thru Houston or
 American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights
 cancelled
(or at least
 SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.

 Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60
 cents
a gallon
 more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was
 not a
good year
 to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in
 the
Denver
 area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top
 again
either.

 Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year,
though I
 remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in
 a row,
maybe
 next year will be a dry one?

 (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)

 Bob NO6B
   
   
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread Bob Dengler
At 5/18/2004 05:26 PM, you wrote:
Sorry Neil, Hamcation is held the second weekend mostly around
February 14 th. in Orlando, Florida. Tons of great Hotel rooms, and
it's really near the local BIG Three Theme Parks, Walt Disney World,

I think part of what makes Dayton such a huge draw is it's location 
relative to the major (ham) population centers.  IIRC, it's a (long in some 
cases) day's drive from central New York, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, 
Chicago, Nashville, etc.  The weather in Orlando may be nicer but travel, 
lodging, etc. are much more costly.

If weather alone were the consideration, may I suggest the ARCA Hamfest 
(formerly Ft. Tuthill Hamfest in Flagstaff) in Williams AZ, July 2-4.  Last 
year temperatures were in the low to mid-70s  no rain, though a quick 
thunderstorm did come through just the day before.

Bob NO6B






 
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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]]

2004-05-19 Thread JOHN MACKEY
This is SOOO RICH!!!  (in other words, full of BS)

Neil, you will drive all over the west coast for ham radio gatherings.  I've
seen you DRIVE a Suburban from Portland (OR) to LA for the Cactus Radio Club
meeting because it is only held once a year.  But you can't fly a 6-8 hour
flight for a BIG once a year ham radio activity like Dayton or OARC

Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   Of course you 'never' twist my arm ... Nor would I twist your arm 
  to attend our annual convention in the Pacific Northwest. 
 
   A bit far to travel for you?  Florida is a bit far for me to 
  travel as well. 
 
   73, 
 
   Neil - WA6KLA 
 
 
 Coy Hilton wrote:
  
  No arm twisting. Just a frendly Invitation. besides I would like 
  to meet you folks.
  73
  AC0Y
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
 Oh ... way over ... there ...
  
 I guess it'd be a fun place to drive to ... otherwise, how'd I
get all of the stuff home?
  
 Neil
  
   Rich Garcia wrote:
   
Orlando Fla... Bring the kids to see Micky and disappear for a
  day
or two
   
OARC= Orlando Amateur Radio Club
   
Make a 2 weekend trip of it and go to the Miami Hamboree one
weekend, visit Miami and Orlando during the week and then hit
  the
Orlando Hamfest next weekend and then enjoy the trip back home
with all the toys.
   
Rich K4GPS
Jupiter FL.
   
-Original Message-
From: Neil McKie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:41 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]
   
  Ok, where is that?
   
  Neil
   
Coy Hilton wrote:

 Okay, Here is a GREAT alternative, next February about the
  second
 week end, come to OARCs HAMCATION. It's three days of great
  fun,
 neet toys for cheap AND, tailgates, not to mention the
  manufacturers
 and three or so buildings of goodies. We have the entire fair
  ground.
 Oh did I say it's GREAT FUN.
 73 and come and visit.
 AC0Y

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
  Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental
  Airlines
 thru Houston or
  American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights
  cancelled
 (or at least
  SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.
 
  Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60
  cents
 a gallon
  more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was
  not a
 good year
  to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in
  the
 Denver
  area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top
  again
 either.
 
  Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year,
 though I
  remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in
  a row,
 maybe
  next year will be a dry one?
 
  (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)
 
  Bob NO6B






 
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[Repeater-Builder] HAL Corp ID-1A help

2004-05-19 Thread lbosard
Does anyone have the information on the matrix (where to/the pattern 
to solder the wonderful little pieces) to program the callsign into 
an old HAL Corp. ID-1A identifyer.

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread Dave Schmidt
One thing I noticed  Hamvention was a week earlier this year than
last.  Now watch, weather will be just absolutely beautiful this up
comming weekend - when it usually would have been.



--- Bob Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
 Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental Airlines thru
 Houston or
 American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights cancelled (or
 at least
 SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.
 
 Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60 cents a
 gallon 
 more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was not a good
 year 
 to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in the
 Denver 
 area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top again
 either.
 
 Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year, though
 I 
 remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in a row,
 maybe 
 next year will be a dry one?
 
 (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)
 
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the same weekend it's always been since they moved it to mid May:

2004 - May 14, 15, 16
2003 - May 16, 17, 18
2002 - May 17, 18, 19


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 One thing I noticed  Hamvention was a week earlier this year than
 last.  Now watch, weather will be just absolutely beautiful this up
 comming weekend - when it usually would have been.






 
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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]]

2004-05-19 Thread Neil McKie

  Well, almost. 

  My last attendance at a Cactus Meeting was when it was in 
 Sacramento a few years ago.  The last Cactus Meeting I attended 
 in the Los Angeles area - I flew to it. 

  Yes, I do go to somewhat screwy places. 

  So do you: Iowa ... Japan ... where else? 

  Besides, I would rather drive a Suburban that almost any other 
 vehicle I have ever owned. 

  At this writing I seriously doubt I will ever attend Dayton or 
 OARC. 

  Neil 


JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 
 This is SOOO RICH!!!  (in other words, full of BS)
 
 Neil, you will drive all over the west coast for ham radio 
 gatherings.  I've seen you DRIVE a Suburban from Portland (OR) 
 to LA for the Cactus Radio Club meeting because it is only 
 held once a year.  But you can't fly a 6-8 hour flight for a 
 BIG once a year ham radio activity like Dayton or OARC
 
 Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Of course you 'never' twist my arm ... Nor would I twist your arm
   to attend our annual convention in the Pacific Northwest.
 
A bit far to travel for you?  Florida is a bit far for me to
   travel as well.
 
73,
 
Neil - WA6KLA
 
 
  Coy Hilton wrote:
  
   No arm twisting. Just a frendly Invitation. besides I would like
   to meet you folks.
   73
   AC0Y
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
  Oh ... way over ... there ...
   
  I guess it'd be a fun place to drive to ... otherwise, how'd I
 get all of the stuff home?
   
  Neil
   
Rich Garcia wrote:

 Orlando Fla... Bring the kids to see Micky and disappear for a
   day
 or two

 OARC= Orlando Amateur Radio Club

 Make a 2 weekend trip of it and go to the Miami Hamboree one
 weekend, visit Miami and Orlando during the week and then hit
   the
 Orlando Hamfest next weekend and then enjoy the trip back home
 with all the toys.

 Rich K4GPS
 Jupiter FL.

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil McKie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:41 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

   Ok, where is that?

   Neil

 Coy Hilton wrote:
 
  Okay, Here is a GREAT alternative, next February about the
   second
  week end, come to OARCs HAMCATION. It's three days of great
   fun,
  neet toys for cheap AND, tailgates, not to mention the
   manufacturers
  and three or so buildings of goodies. We have the entire fair
   ground.
  Oh did I say it's GREAT FUN.
  73 and come and visit.
  AC0Y
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob Dengler
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
   Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental
   Airlines
  thru Houston or
   American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights
   cancelled
  (or at least
   SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.
  
   Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60
   cents
  a gallon
   more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was
   not a
  good year
   to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in
   the
  Denver
   area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top
   again
  either.
  
   Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year,
  though I
   remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in
   a row,
  maybe
   next year will be a dry one?
  
   (trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)
  
   Bob NO6B
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes

2004-05-19 Thread Paul Finch
Hello,

Great post, I was there and learned a lot, mostly next year I need a covered
tent to be able to sell stuff even if it rains!

One other thing, there needs to be a Dayton Hamvention email message board
where there side and our side can talk about problems and compliments
and things like that.

All in all I had a good first time at Dayton this year and plan on returning
next year with more Junque (high class junk) to sell.

Paul
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From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:57 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes


Back from Dayton with the obligatory cold from the airline
trip. I always receive a soda, a bag of pretzels and the
latest third world sent cold.

Those of us from the West Coast flew in to Chicago to find
all flights cancelled from Wx. Many of us not wanting to
spend the night in Houstin or Chicago rented cars and drove
the remaining 6 hours (less the Chicago Loop traffic). Oh
Joy what fun... All things considered, Indiana's highways
are in great shape.

Friday was great, the classic Dayton friday. Truck loads
of boat anchors going both directions. Lot's of deals of
the day going on.

Sat brought the rain on, a semi light rain for much of the
day just meant you bought one of the $1 plasic ponchos
to do your wandering. A modest number of the vendors left,
a larger percentage staying through Sunday. Most people
just go inside to see the booths and various displays
while the light rain passed through.

Sunday was just great, both the weather and the people
were in fine form! Everyone who stayed, had a great time
closing last minute boat anchor purchases. Sunday appeared
to be magic window for the Dayton flea market people.

Things wrapped up and off everyone went, most tired
with smiles on their faces. Sorry to read that some of
you left early Saturday. I know one vendor who did,
only to return Sunday and was very glad he did, selling
most of his items upon his Sunday return.

 

Here's a Dayton Sidebar:

The Dayton Club DARA actully ran the Hamvention this year.
Previous years were done by a contractor with less than
optimal results. Some of you know the entire story, which
I'll not mention the details. Dara retaking control of the
Hamvention from the previous contractor is a very good thing.

So the Dayton Club took-back the Hamvention and ran it
with mostly volunteers. The previous years contact and
Hamvention information was not really provided to the Dara
People by the previous contractor, so much of the quirkyness
arose from the mentioned missing information.

All things considered, the Dara People tried very hard to
make the Hamvention appear seamless, with the exception of
being more flexible and polite. I hope most of you
expereienced Dara's efforts to make the Hamvention play
as best possible.

Next year will find Dara really trying hard to make the
Hamvention the best possible. For those of you counting,
the un official reported numbers are just under 22,000
people this year. Not bad eh..?

If you have any comments, feedback  suggestions good or
bad... I'll try to pass them back to the Dara Group
through my contact as I see them.

It was great to meet many of you again and of course, see
you again next year.

cheers
skipp

skipp025 @ yahoo.com
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Re: [Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]]]

2004-05-19 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Neil - I fly to Japan because driving to Japan is not possible from the US.  I
have recently driven to Iowa.  Nice job of turning this around, Neil.

Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yes, I do go to somewhat screwy places. 
 
   So do you: Iowa ... Japan ... where else? 
 
   Besides, I would rather drive a Suburban that almost any other 
  vehicle I have ever owned. 
 
   At this writing I seriously doubt I will ever attend Dayton or 
  OARC. 






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater

2004-05-19 Thread k0jxi
Thanks much for the info.  Did you use S or SXs for two meters?

73, Dale---



 In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, KC1RM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have done this on both 2 meters and 70cm with no problems.  In fact, if you
 set the radios up identically, you can 'flip' them if either a transmitter or 
 receiver
 fails.  
 
 Jim, KC1RM
 
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 From: k0jxi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:20 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater
 
 
  Just wonder if anyone has used two 450 Delta S model radios with one as the 
  receiver and one as the transmitter for a repeater
  
  Thinking that the narrowband models might have the needed isolation for 
  installation
  
  Thanks, Dale
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: [Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]]]

2004-05-19 Thread Neil McKie

  Thank you John, 

  Neil  


JOHN MACKEY wrote:
 
 Neil - I fly to Japan because driving to Japan is not possible 
 from the US.  I have recently driven to Iowa.  Nice job of turning 
 this around, Neil.
 
 Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I do go to somewhat screwy places.
 
So do you: Iowa ... Japan ... where else?
 
Besides, I would rather drive a Suburban that almost any other
   vehicle I have ever owned.
 
At this writing I seriously doubt I will ever attend Dayton or
   OARC.
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater

2004-05-19 Thread KC1RM
You can use an S or SX for the transmitter, but the receiver definitely needs 
to be
the S.  The helicals in the S make the difference.  I think the S has about 2-3 
MHz
of bandwidth on receive, while the SX has close to 20 MHz.

I have also used GE Phoenix S UHF radios for a repeater as well.  Picked up a 
couple
of narrowband units a while ago for $10 each.  As longs as I keep the power 
down,
seems to work pretty well.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: k0jxi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:03 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater


 Thanks much for the info.  Did you use S or SXs for two meters?

 73, Dale---



  In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, KC1RM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have done this on both 2 meters and 70cm with no problems.  In fact, if 
  you
  set the radios up identically, you can 'flip' them if either a transmitter 
  or receiver
  fails.
 
  Jim, KC1RM
 
  - Original Message -
  From: k0jxi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:20 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Delta S's as a UHF repeater
 
 
   Just wonder if anyone has used two 450 Delta S model radios with one as 
   the receiver and one as the transmitter for a repeater
  
   Thinking that the narrowband models might have the needed isolation for 
   installation
  
   Thanks, Dale
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
  
  






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[Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread David Schornak
has anyone installed a ts-64 into a micor base/repeater station?
is so does anyone have the layout of where to make all the connections?
if not is there a better way to get tone decode and encode on a micor
without having to buy a tone encode and decode and the two reeds for them?





 
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[Repeater-Builder] Dayton rebuttal - excuses- alibis- and special offer

2004-05-19 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
Guys;
We apologize to all who came looking for us on
Saturday or Sunday only to find out that we had
chickened out and left if a huff or was it a
snit...I can't recall...anyhow, to those what
wanted some item we had and waited till the last
minute only to find us gone we extend this offer.

We will honor the Dayton or rain out price (as
posted on our current web home page at (www dot
mdmradio dot com) and ship the stuph at no
charge. 
(cont 48 Only please...I ain't shipping stuph to
Guam for nothin')
This will remain in effect until we run outta the
stuph or Monday May 31 which ever occurs first.

We are anticipating hosting a GIANT GARAGE SALE
complete with our regular Lemonade and donut hole
breakfast, at the end of August either the
weekend of the 22 or 28 yet to be determined.
watch the home page crawl for latest bulletins
and other insanity.
73
MDM TED

I should have thought of this sooner.


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Melrose Park, IL 60160 
708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 
web http://www.mdmradio.com - all new check it out!!!
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread Gregg Lengling
Sure it's easy to do, you can get Disc. Audio to run the decode right off
the backplane and transmit can be input thru the backplane also to the PL
input of the exciter.  You should have both manuals for the station so you
can find all the points.  You need the RF manual and the Control manual.


I'd tell you the exact points but without the manuals you can't be sure
everything is proper as sometimes if it was a Carrier Squelch station, the
PL input path to the exciter may not be complete.


Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
 


-Original Message-
From: David Schornak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:25 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

has anyone installed a ts-64 into a micor base/repeater station?
is so does anyone have the layout of where to make all the connections?
if not is there a better way to get tone decode and encode on a micor
without having to buy a tone encode and decode and the two reeds for them?





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread David Schornak
thanks Greg it off to find another manual

- Original Message - 
From: Gregg Lengling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station


 Sure it's easy to do, you can get Disc. Audio to run the decode right off
 the backplane and transmit can be input thru the backplane also to the PL
 input of the exciter.  You should have both manuals for the station so you
 can find all the points.  You need the RF manual and the Control manual.


 I'd tell you the exact points but without the manuals you can't be sure
 everything is proper as sometimes if it was a Carrier Squelch station, the
 PL input path to the exciter may not be complete.


 Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
 Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
 K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
 Member:  ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC



 -Original Message-
 From: David Schornak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:25 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

 has anyone installed a ts-64 into a micor base/repeater station?
 is so does anyone have the layout of where to make all the connections?
 if not is there a better way to get tone decode and encode on a micor
 without having to buy a tone encode and decode and the two reeds for them?






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[Repeater-Builder] rg142 duplexer jumpers

2004-05-19 Thread DIGITEL S.A.





hi all,
we are new building repeaters, i had build uhf 
repeaters using rg142 cable to interconect duplexer to 
repeater.
now i am building an vhf repeater, i need to make 
the jumper cables to interconect duplexer to repeater,
the question is:
is rg142 cable good too in vhf 
systems?
any opinion apreciated!
thanks.
jl.













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RE: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]

2004-05-19 Thread dave_novotny
Dayton was Dayton.
Fine on Friday, Wet on Saturday, and Deals to be found on Sunday.
Three of us drove from Colorado Springs.  It's a 20 hour drive (we do it in 2 
days, getting a little old for the straight through shot).  And no, the road to 
the top of Pikes Peak isn't open yet.

It was great to see everyone again and make new friends.  We are getting into 
902MHz now and it was good to find some equipment and information in doing that.

We are looking forward to next year's adventure, and hopefully, better weather.

Dave

Dave Novotny, WA6IFI
Chairman
Cheyenne Mountain Repeater Group, Inc
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www.qsl.net/cmrg  


-Original Message-
From: Bob Dengler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamfest Notes]


At 5/18/2004 11:10 AM, you wrote:
Those of us from the west coast who flew Continental Airlines thru Houston or
American Airlines thru Dallas also found all flights cancelled (or at least
SERIOUSLY delayed) from Wx.

Sounds like a good reason to drive, though with gas about 60 cents a gallon 
more expensive than this time last year, I guess this was not a good year 
to make the 4,400 mile round trip.  With the recent snow in the Denver 
area, I'm sure the Pike's Peak road wasn't open to the top again either.

Looks like the weather was pretty much the same as last year, though I 
remember it being a bit cool as well.  With rain 2 years in a row, maybe 
next year will be a dry one?

(trying to come up with good reasons to go next year)

Bob NO6B






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rg142 duplexer jumpers

2004-05-19 Thread KC1RM
It works for me-  It's a little stiff, but if it's available, use it.

Jim, KC1RM

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From: DIGITEL S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] rg142 duplexer jumpers


hi all,
we are new building repeaters, i had build uhf repeaters using rg142 cable to 
interconect duplexer to repeater.
now i am building an vhf repeater, i need to make the jumper cables to 
interconect duplexer to repeater,
the question is:
is rg142 cable good too in vhf systems?
any opinion apreciated!
thanks.
jl.






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rg142 duplexer jumpers

2004-05-19 Thread N4BKT William Laakkonen
I believe the question was actually: Is RG-142 also good to use in VHF
duplexing systems?
rather than is it too good?

I don't see a reason not to use RG142 at VHF range.

73
Bill
N4BKT
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From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] rg142 duplexer jumpers


 At 09:33 AM 5/19/2004 -0600, you wrote:

  the question is: is rg142 cable good too in vhf  systems?

 ---In my humble opinion, when it comes to cabling and full-duplex RF,
 there is no such thing as too good. RG142 is plenty inexpensive. Use it
:-)

 Ken

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[Repeater-Builder] 70-1000c programmer

2004-05-19 Thread ian wells
would anyone know who has these programmer for sale in australia
Thank you
Ian Wells
Kerinvale Comaudio
mail service 1017,
Biloela,4715.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rg142 duplexer jumpers

2004-05-19 Thread Mike WA6ILQ




RG-142 is excellent, but it's stiff because it has a silver-over-steel
core.
Read the web page at
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/double-shielded-coax.html
and you will find out why I switched from RG-142 to RG-400.
Mike WA6ILQ

At 09:33 AM 5/19/04 -0600, you wrote:
hi
all,
we are new building repeaters, i had build uhf
repeaters using rg142 cable to interconect duplexer to
repeater.
now i am building an vhf repeater, i need to
make the jumper cables to interconect duplexer to repeater,
the question is:
is rg142 cable good too in vhf
systems?
any opinion apreciated!
thanks.
jl.





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] rg142 duplexer jumpers

2004-05-19 Thread russ





It will work.
I most of the time use Belden RG-214/U coax to interconect the 
cans to the repeater. A bit less loss and very eazy to work with at VHF and 
UHF.
Good luck on your new repeater system.
Very best,
Russ, W3CH


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  DIGITEL 
  S.A. 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:33 
  AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] rg142 
  duplexer jumpers
  
  hi all,
  we are new building repeaters, i had build uhf 
  repeaters using rg142 cable to interconect duplexer to 
  repeater.
  now i am building an vhf repeater, i need to make 
  the jumper cables to interconect duplexer to repeater,
  the question is:
  is rg142 cable good too in vhf 
  systems?
  any opinion apreciated!
  thanks.
  jl.













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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 70-1000c programmer

2004-05-19 Thread Andy Brinkley
Ian -

Peter O'Brien was selling them, the last address that I had for him was:

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 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:27 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 70-1000c programmer
 
 
 would anyone know who has these programmer for sale in australia
 Thank you
 Ian Wells
 Kerinvale Comaudio
 mail service 1017,
 Biloela,4715.
 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] ts-64 and a micor repeater station

2004-05-19 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 12:25 PM 5/19/04 -0400, you wrote:

has anyone installed a ts-64 into a micor base/repeater station?
is so does anyone have the layout of where to make all the connections?
if not is there a better way to get tone decode and encode on a micor
without having to buy a tone encode and decode and the two reeds for them?

First of all, the price isn't that big... a mobile can provide the boards, and
reeds can be found for $5 each...  Just make sure that you have the
right pin count on the boards - there were two versions of the PL boards
and I think it was 5  pins and 7 pins, but it's been a while...

With that said, RX disc audio for the decoder is available on the
lower left receiver points on the backplane and the PL input to
the exciter is available on the upper right row of pins.

Part of the standard mod is to add a jumper so that the local
speaker amp can monitor the RX.  I personally add a rotary switch
into that jumper wiring so that I can monitor the RX, the TX audio,
and a few more audio points (for example remote base RX and
TX audio).

If you have an Scom 7K or a similar controller with a PL encoder
audio gate you might want to consider routing your new PL encoder
through the audio gate as you install it.  If you need to switch the
PL encode with the COS it can be done at any point in the future
with a simple program command.

You'll find most of what you need on the web pages linked off of
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micor-index.html

You WILL need both manuals for the station so you can find all
the points.  You need the RF manual and the Control manual.
Note that there were two series of backplanes, one for the
regular and the other for the community repeater stations,
and the control manuals are different.  An outside controller
can be added to either one, but it helps to have the right manual.

Note that if the chassis was built as a carrier squelch station
that you may have to add a few internal jumpers.

Mike WA6ILQ





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 70-1000c programmer

2004-05-19 Thread ian wells

Thank you
Ian Wells
Kerinvale Comaudio
mail service 1017,
Biloela,4715.
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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From: Andy Brinkley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:16 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 70-1000c programmer


 Ian -
 
 Peter O'Brien was selling them, the last address that I had for him was:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 http://www.brinkleyelectronics.com
 
 
 
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  From: ian wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:27 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 70-1000c programmer
  
  
  would anyone know who has these programmer for sale in australia
  Thank you
  Ian Wells
  Kerinvale Comaudio
  mail service 1017,
  Biloela,4715.
  www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au
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