Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

[Mike Morris]

At 09:33 AM 2/9/06, you wrote:

> > Sounds like a nice piece of test equipment to have around: a 50 dB
> > non-directional coupler.
>
>Have two, both hamfest items.  One is celwave, and the other is a
>bird slug.  Spec on the bird slug is -50 at 25-1000 MHz. Seems to be
>a pretty rare slug.

Kevin proved that you can build your own:


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Mike WA6ILQ

[Mike Morris]

Replied to in private email.

Mike

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] controller question

[Nate Duehr]

Chris wrote:
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>   Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink 
> and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
> 
> 
>Chris  KA7CJH

And if you ever actually cross-connect the two networks (ESPECIALLY any 
IRLP Reflector channel) without permission of the participating nodes 
and/or Reflectors, you can end up with some very cranky people on both 
sides.

Most IRLP Reflector operators have policy to not allow system to system 
cross-links.  Especially if they're not asked first, so they can monitor 
and use our built in tools to disconnect your node if something's not 
set up right.

IRLP and EchoLink are not quite oil and water, we all get along, but 
there are some differences in network philosophies there that you can 
fire up some people's emotions about.

There are also some VERY well-done digital ways to cross-connect the two 
networks that the Reflector and "back-office" admins have worked out 
through a lot of hard trial and error for things like the Hurricane Net, 
etc.

If you have a legitimate reason to tie the networks together, talk to 
folks that have been doing it a long time and sell them on your idea 
first... they may already have all the bandwidth and software necessary 
to do that type of thing "right".  If you haven't figured out who to 
talk to -- you haven't been active enough in the "community" to start 
cross-linking things yet.  Hang around the YahooGroups list and help 
out... and all that usual stuff.

Basic rule of thumb... never EVER cross-link someone to another network 
without their knowledge, just like you wouldn't cross-band repeat 
someone else's repeater output to another band without ID's of your own 
and permission of the repeater owner.

(Don't get me started about dual-band radios that have 10,000 bells and 
whistles but the manufacturer's can't seem to give hams a legal CW ID 
for, in cross-band repeat mode...)

If all you wanted was both EchoLink and IRLP on your repeater... not 
cross-connecting them... ignore all of the above and join the EchoIRLP 
folks and their on-going "beta test" of unofficial software that seems 
to work pretty well, once installed.

Nate WY0X
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Mike WA6ILQ

[Ronny Julian]

Mike, The email man must be on strike too where you live.  Would you still
like your USB hub?  It was returned unclaimed from your PO and I have
several unanswered emails to you.  At the very least I owe you the money
back for it.  Write me off list as well.
73 K4RJJ
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power

[Chuck Kelsey]

Maybe Jeff or someone could explain the math here. I find it difficult 
to believe one needs to run 200 watts for reciprocal coverage to a 
typical mobile. And that's ignoring where I live, you'll never get 
frequency coordination for that much power anyway.

Chuck
WB2EDV




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>> Gee- do you really need 150 watts?
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> Most of the UHF installations I have seen, that employed a decent 
> receiver with preamp, could have easily used 150 + watts to be 
> matched.  I know of several GE Mastr II UHF 200 watt repeaters, using 
> good preamps, that are matched in performance with a 35 watt mobile.  
> They are single receiver systems using a duplexer and a single antenna.
>
> Jeff DePolo has one of these Mastr II, 200 watt UHF's at one of my 
> higher profile sites, and it works great with my 35 watt mobile.
>
> With multiple receiver sites on UHF, I'd consider a system with 3 - 
> 400 watts transmitter power; realizing you may not be able to duplex 
> with one antenna unless you have (1) a duplexer that will take the 
> power, (2) a tube amplifier to insure low TX sideband noise, (3) 
> enough duplexer isolation to protect the preamp, if used.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power

[Kris Kirby]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
> Maybe Jeff or someone could explain the math here. I find it difficult 
> to believe one needs to run 200 watts for reciprocal coverage to a 
> typical mobile. And that's ignoring where I live, you'll never get 
> frequency coordination for that much power anyway.

200W into a folded dipole, maybe. Heck, even a two-bay. or into 200 feet 
of RG-213

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

[Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator]

Chris,

I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct.

IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating
connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are
discussed.

Echolink is much more forgiving.  I have echolink on my 2 meter
repeater here in Tampa area and it is great system.

Interconnecting them would be good in some applications, but make sure
you get permission from the sysops.  I would think if your application
is emergency service related it would be acceptable, but have to talk
to them.

73, ron, n9ee/r

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

[Ronny Julian]

I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows?  Would you have to use 
two computers?


Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator wrote:

>Chris,
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>connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are
>discussed.
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>repeater here in Tampa area and it is great system.
>
>Interconnecting them would be good in some applications, but make sure
>you get permission from the sysops.  I would think if your application
>is emergency service related it would be acceptable, but have to talk
>to them.
>
>73, ron, n9ee/r
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

[Ken Arck]

At 09:30 AM 2/10/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>I thought one ran on Linux and one on Windows?  Would you have to use 
>two computers?

<---There are a couple of ways to do this on one computer. One way would be
to run WINE. Another is to run something called EchoIRLP:

http://www.echoirlp.com/

(of course, I also need to get a plug in for our RC210 Repeater Controller,
which would work great for his application and certainly wouldn't break the
bank - www.ah6le.net/arcom/rc210/rc210.html).

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Controllers - Best bang for the buck?

[KB6ZOP]

Thanks to all who replied!  There are a few here that I have never heard
of. I'll be checking them all out.

Thanks again! 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] controller question

[Jim B.]

Richard wrote:

> If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, and then
> they'll both use the same hardware.
> 
> Richard, N7TGB

Execpt IRLP runs in Linux and Echolink runs in windows...
There is a bridge program out there, poke around the www.irlp.org site a 
bit.
Or google.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power

[jeff]

Well, with a good preamp at a quiet site, usable sensitivity on a UHF
repeater is often very good, often better than a typical mobile radio in
its mobile radio environment which includes locally-generated noise from
ignition, on-board computers, nearby power lines, etc..  So, for the
sake of argument, let's say that a UHF repeater with a GaAsFET at a
quiet site can hear 6 dB better than a mobile.  That "balances" a 35
watt mobile to 140 watts of repeater tx power.

At many of my out-in-the-boonies repeater sites in mountainous areas,
there isn't much activity on UHF, and band crowding isn't an issue.
Since any given mobile is talking, at most, 50% of the time, one could
argue that giving the users a little extra repeater transmitter 'oomph'
statistically improves the overall usability of the system.  When
they're down in a valley or going through a rock cut, at least they have
a better shot at hearing the other users.

I have other UHF repeaters in the 200-250 watt range, but all of them
have multiple receivers (one has 6 remote receivers, the other 5).

Then I have other repeaters that run low TPO, such as the one in crowded
Philadelphia (in the dense mid-Atlantic region from Baltimore/DC to
NYC), which only runs 7 watts into the antenna.

Every situation is different...

--- Jeff


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> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
> > Maybe Jeff or someone could explain the math here. I find
> it difficult
> > to believe one needs to run 200 watts for reciprocal coverage to a
> > typical mobile. And that's ignoring where I live, you'll never get 
> > frequency coordination for that much power anyway.
> 
> 200W into a folded dipole, maybe. Heck, even a two-bay. or
> into 200 feet 
> of RG-213
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[Repeater-Builder] RF Power Output

[skipp025]

One really gains respect for real power and 
the equipment specs when running a solar only 
or an off the power grid remote site. 

You try to make 10 watts work like 100 watts. 

No fudge allowed else your batteries go dead. 

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[Repeater-Builder] GE Builders - Icomcs and Reeds

[dalite01]

I have the following available that I don’t see any
future need for:

 

Reeds

 

103.5 Hz  PL19B205280G7  -  7 pin plug-in similar to miniature tube

123.0 Hz  PL19B205280G12 - 7 pin plug-in
similar to miniature tube

 

ICOMs

 

EC

ICOM

R158.970

16418.888

PL19A1298393G7 

 

EC

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T158.970

13247.500

PL19A129393G17 

 

5C

ICOM

R159.450

16472.222

PL19A129393G11

 

EC

ICOM

T159.4500

13287.500

PL19A129393G17 

 

 

These are available for anyone who needs them. 

 

I will pay postage. 


 

All I ask in
return is for you to donate to the upkeep and availability of the  Repeater-Builder
site. 

 

 Honor System –
Let you conscience be your guide.

 

The “Donate” button can be found at the
following site; for both PayPal and Credit Cards.

 

 

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I hope others will continue this offer with items they think
others may use.…..

 

David

KD4NUE

 

 

 

 

















  




  
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] controller question

[dalite01]

I think the WB2REM  G4CDY Ultimate Linking Interface (ULI) will do what
you want.

www.ilinkboards.com

http://www.ilinkboards.com/indexuli1.html

Hope this is what you are looking for.

David
KD4NUE


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  Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink 
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[Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

[J Hughes]

What are the best controllers out there ?? That will support 4 ports or
more. Able to down-load the information and up-load new programs. Due
audio processing.  Support multiple PL tones and DCS.  Top of the line
Price is not a factor. Whats out there ?? Thanks K9JAC
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

[Jim B.]

J Hughes wrote:

> What are the best controllers out there ?? That will support 4 ports or
> more. Able to down-load the information and up-load new programs. Due
> audio processing.  Support multiple PL tones and DCS.  Top of the line
> Price is not a factor. Whats out there ?? Thanks K9JAC

You're kidding right? I don't know of anything that fits that bill. 
There are several 3 port controllers out there, only one 4 or more right 
now (Link Comm RLC-3), although both S-Com and Arcom will have multiport 
controllers out this year. And they are the only ones that also will do 
CTCSS encode/decode internally. Right now, the only way to get 
multi-CTCSS/DCS is to buy a tone panel made for commercial service, and 
they are all single port devices. The Comm-Spec TP-3200 is probably the 
best of those over all.

What you mean by 'due audio processing'?
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[Repeater-Builder] db duplexer

[John]

Hi,

Does anyone have or knows where to find the info on a DB 4072 UHF 
duplexer? What's the best way to tune one using a simple service monitor?

Thanks,

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer weirdness

[Bob Dengler]

At 2/9/2006 09:14 AM, you wrote:
> > Well, I'm going to go out on a limb & disagree with Jeff,
> > perhaps for the
> > first time ever.
>
>That's OK, we'll still let you hang around our tent and drink our beer at
>Dayton :-)  Are you going again this year Bob?.

Not this year unfortunately; maybe '07.


> > My conclusion is that if
> > whatever you're
> > using to measure amplitude is sensitive enough & everything
> > is close to 50
> > ohms, tuning for max. trans. is good enough.
>
>My take on the situation is that I'd rather have everything as close to 50
>ohms as possible.  If there is any variation in the system outside the
>duplexer/cavities that you can't control (such as Z changing due to antennas
>icing up), the transformation effects of the cavities should be minimal.
>Also, by keeping all of the passives at 50 ohms in and out, it eliminates
>much of the uncertainty when adding additional cavities (e.g. pass cavity
>ahead of a receiver) or when adding an isolator that was bench-tuned with 50
>ohm loads.  I'll take consistent performance over optimum performance when
>we're talking a one or two tenths of a dB in insertion loss difference.

True; if something has to be swapped out it's easier to substitute 50 ohm 
components instead of 67 - j16 ohm equipment.


>As far as using cavities as matching networks to eek more power out of a PA,
>without actually looking at the efficiency at different load Z's, there's no
>telling what the PA is truly happy with.  Just because you can squeeze an
>extra dB out of the amplifier by providing it with an some odd load Z
>doesn't mean that's the ideal load Z to operate it at.  If you have to burn
>up 50 more watts in heat to get an extra 10 watts out of the PA, that's bad.
>So, if you lack test equipment and have no choice but to use high-level
>signals for tuning the pass, you should still be tuning for minimum
>reflected power.

Alternately one could simply monitor the supply current while tuning to 
make sure you're not drifting into a low efficiency region.


> > Yes, you can tune your RX cans to maximize power transfer into your
> > RX.  But then what happens to your notches which you've just
> > moved as well?
>
>You can also tune Rx front ends with a network analyzer or SG/TG and RLB.

Yes but that sounds sort of risky in that the lowest noise figure of an LNA 
is not necessarily achieved at optimum match.  The waters get murkier with 
LNAs because in addition to power transfer, you have the somewhat 
independent variable of noise figure to contend with.  Best to just tune 
them on a 50 ohm system for best S/N period.

>You will also see that the "window" response of the front end of your
>typical two-way radio (Micor, M2, whatever) can be tuned to favor the side
>away from interference sources (e.g. your transmitter or other co-located
>transmitters) without any significant detriment to insertion loss at the
>desired Rx pass frequency.

My previous comments relating to LNAs may also apply to the JFET mixers in 
G.E. radios, as I've had a few that did not completely optimize by tuning 
for maximum RX limiter current per the manual; tuning for best quieting 
yielded a dB or two better S/N.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] controller question

[dalite01]

Disregard my response.  

I didn't read the original post well enough before replying.  

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] controller question

 

  Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an Echolink 
and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?


   Chris  KA7CJH









 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

[Bob Dengler]

At 2/10/2006 12:55 PM, you wrote:
>J Hughes wrote:
>
> > What are the best controllers out there ?? That will support 4 ports or
> > more. Able to down-load the information and up-load new programs. Due
> > audio processing.  Support multiple PL tones and DCS.  Top of the line
> > Price is not a factor. Whats out there ?? Thanks K9JAC
>
>You're kidding right? I don't know of anything that fits that bill.
>There are several 3 port controllers out there, only one 4 or more right
>now (Link Comm RLC-3)

LinkComm also has the RLC-Club with Deluxe 2 expansion board, yielding 6 ports.

>, although both S-Com and Arcom will have multiport
>controllers out this year.

S-Com's will only be 3 ports, though they expect a followup model with more 
ports later.  Hopefully the Arcom multiport will be better quality than the 
RC-210, which I personally don't care for.

>  And they are the only ones that also will do
>CTCSS encode/decode internally. Right now, the only way to get
>multi-CTCSS/DCS is to buy a tone panel made for commercial service, and
>they are all single port devices. The Comm-Spec TP-3200 is probably the
>best of those over all.

The Pacific Research RI-300e has internal CTCSS/DCS decoding.  It's only a 
single port controller, but it can be daisy-chained up to 8 units.  An 
expensive solution, but it will do what you want if $$$ is no object.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

[Bob Dengler]

At 2/10/2006 06:15 AM, you wrote:
>Chris,
>
>I think some of the responses about echolink to IRLP are correct.
>
>IRLP is much more restrictive with their web police terminating
>connections if the subject matter such as politics and religion are
>discussed.

Where was their "web police" last FD when we had a simplex IRLP node with a 
broken RX connected to a reflector TXing all day on 223.50 & the reflector 
admin refused to disconnect it?  Quite a mess that was.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

[Jim B.]

Bob Dengler wrote:
> At 2/10/2006 12:55 PM, you wrote:
> 
>>J Hughes wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What are the best controllers out there ?? That will support 4 ports or
>>>more. Able to down-load the information and up-load new programs. Due
>>>audio processing.  Support multiple PL tones and DCS.  Top of the line
>>>Price is not a factor. Whats out there ?? Thanks K9JAC
>>
>>You're kidding right? I don't know of anything that fits that bill.
>>There are several 3 port controllers out there, only one 4 or more right
>>now (Link Comm RLC-3)
> 
> 
> LinkComm also has the RLC-Club with Deluxe 2 expansion board, yielding 6 
> ports.

Well, I didn't really think of that right off...didn't know they were 
still offering the expansion board. OK...

> 
>>, although both S-Com and Arcom will have multiport
>>controllers out this year.
> 
> 
> S-Com's will only be 3 ports, though they expect a followup model with more 
> ports later.  Hopefully the Arcom multiport will be better quality than the 
> RC-210, which I personally don't care for.

Actually, that's how I feel about the Link, but again, just personal 
opinion.

>> And they are the only ones that also will do
>>CTCSS encode/decode internally. Right now, the only way to get
>>multi-CTCSS/DCS is to buy a tone panel made for commercial service, and
>>they are all single port devices. The Comm-Spec TP-3200 is probably the
>>best of those over all.
> 
> 
> The Pacific Research RI-300e has internal CTCSS/DCS decoding.  It's only a 
> single port controller, but it can be daisy-chained up to 8 units.  An 
> expensive solution, but it will do what you want if $$$ is no object.
> 
> Bob NO6B

Likewise, I thought Pac-Res was out of business, or at least not making 
controllers anymore. OK-I would say that would be his only option at 
this point. Or one of the Link Comm units with a TP-3200 on each port!
=c$

Tnx, Bob!
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[Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor Channel elements. (Was VHF Micor and RLC-3)

[Steve Hutzley]

>Kevin,
>
>I have no clue. It has probably been 12-15 years
since
>this thing was converted.  I assume the channel
>elements were done professionally since the tag on
top
>of the channel element has 146T85000 on it (146.850
>MHz).
>
>Why do you ask?
>
>>Who recrystaled the channel element?
>

!!Because some crystal manufacturers don't know how to
!!build a crystal 
!!that will be modulated.  The Micor Station uses a
!!KXN-1019B channel 
!!element.

Kevin,

I am checking my local contacts for some elements,
when I do come across some, and I want to have them
re-crystaled, what exactly whould I ask for/tell the
manufacturer to do to make sure it is compatible for
use in an amatuer FM repeater, besides its for a Micor
station, it will be modulated by audio, and the actual
crystal should be Fo/12.

Thanks!
73
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor Channel elements

[N9WYS]

While we're on this subject -- can I use an element from a VHF-Lo Micor and
have it recrystaled to a UHF freq?  I'm converting a couple of SpectraTAC
units - I'm assuming these are Micor receivers.  It could save me a bit of
trouble in case the change-out receivers don't come with elements.

Thanks
Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
!!Because some crystal manufacturers don't know how to
!!build a crystal 
!!that will be modulated.  The Micor Station uses a
!!KXN-1019B channel 
!!element.

Kevin,

I am checking my local contacts for some elements,
when I do come across some, and I want to have them
re-crystaled, what exactly whould I ask for/tell the
manufacturer to do to make sure it is compatible for
use in an amatuer FM repeater, besides its for a Micor
station, it will be modulated by audio, and the actual
crystal should be Fo/12.

Thanks!
73
Steve






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

[Russ Wilson]

Hi,all
Pac Res is still there and makes several, some
ham-bound.  We have 3 of the RI-300 series on CARA and
they work acceptable.  However, programming is very
difficult and there is no real-time clock so whenever
there is a power bump, the controller sends a "time
not set" message with every id.
In the programming, the code doesn't wrap around but
merely steps onto the next line replacing whatever was
there.  A trap which is not difficult to avoid if you
know it.  Either put several calls to another address
or plan ahead and leave some blank lines between each
command set.  Learned the hard way.
My two cents worth
Thanks
Russ AE6UX

--- "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob Dengler wrote:
> > At 2/10/2006 12:55 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> >>J Hughes wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What are the best controllers out there ?? That
> will support 4 ports or
> >>>more. Able to down-load the information and
> up-load new programs. Due
> >>>audio processing.  Support multiple PL tones and
> DCS.  Top of the line
> >>>Price is not a factor. Whats out there ?? Thanks
> K9JAC
> >>
> >>You're kidding right? I don't know of anything
> that fits that bill.
> >>There are several 3 port controllers out there,
> only one 4 or more right
> >>now (Link Comm RLC-3)
> > 
> > 
> > LinkComm also has the RLC-Club with Deluxe 2
> expansion board, yielding 6 ports.
> 
> Well, I didn't really think of that right
> off...didn't know they were 
> still offering the expansion board. OK...
> 
> > 
> >>, although both S-Com and Arcom will have
> multiport
> >>controllers out this year.
> > 
> > 
> > S-Com's will only be 3 ports, though they expect a
> followup model with more 
> > ports later.  Hopefully the Arcom multiport will
> be better quality than the 
> > RC-210, which I personally don't care for.
> 
> Actually, that's how I feel about the Link, but
> again, just personal 
> opinion.
> 
> >> And they are the only ones that also will do
> >>CTCSS encode/decode internally. Right now, the
> only way to get
> >>multi-CTCSS/DCS is to buy a tone panel made for
> commercial service, and
> >>they are all single port devices. The Comm-Spec
> TP-3200 is probably the
> >>best of those over all.
> > 
> > 
> > The Pacific Research RI-300e has internal
> CTCSS/DCS decoding.  It's only a 
> > single port controller, but it can be
> daisy-chained up to 8 units.  An 
> > expensive solution, but it will do what you want
> if $$$ is no object.
> > 
> > Bob NO6B
> 
> Likewise, I thought Pac-Res was out of business, or
> at least not making 
> controllers anymore. OK-I would say that would be
> his only option at 
> this point. Or one of the Link Comm units with a
> TP-3200 on each port!
> =c$
> 
> Tnx, Bob!
> -- 
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL
> 
> 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor Channel elements

[JOHN MACKEY]

No

-- Original Message --
Received: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:57:08 PM CST
From: "N9WYS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor Channel elements

> While we're on this subject -- can I use an element from a VHF-Lo Micor and
> have it recrystaled to a UHF freq?  I'm converting a couple of SpectraTAC
> units - I'm assuming these are Micor receivers.  It could save me a bit of
> trouble in case the change-out receivers don't come with elements.
> 
> Thanks
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> !!Because some crystal manufacturers don't know how to
> !!build a crystal 
> !!that will be modulated.  The Micor Station uses a
> !!KXN-1019B channel 
> !!element.
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> I am checking my local contacts for some elements,
> when I do come across some, and I want to have them
> re-crystaled, what exactly whould I ask for/tell the
> manufacturer to do to make sure it is compatible for
> use in an amatuer FM repeater, besides its for a Micor
> station, it will be modulated by audio, and the actual
> crystal should be Fo/12.
> 
> Thanks!
> 73
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor Channel elements

[N9WYS]

Good enough - that's what I needed to know.  

Thanks, John.
Mark - N9WYS

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY
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No

-- Original Message --
Received: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:57:08 PM CST
From: "N9WYS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF Micor Channel elements

> While we're on this subject -- can I use an element from a VHF-Lo Micor
and
> have it recrystaled to a UHF freq?  I'm converting a couple of SpectraTAC
> units - I'm assuming these are Micor receivers.  It could save me a bit of
> trouble in case the change-out receivers don't come with elements.
> 
> Thanks
> Mark - N9WYS






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

[Juan Tellez]

Have for sale a RLC-3 with the latest firmware, 4 radio cards,
and many other features , you can find more info at 
http://www.link-comm.com/controllers/rlc4.htm if interested
mail me direct at xe2si-at-grupocimsa-dot-com .
Juan Tellez XE2SI



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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

What are the best controllers out there ?? That will support 4 ports or
more. Able to down-load the information and up-load new programs. Due
audio processing.  Support multiple PL tones and DCS.  Top of the line
Price is not a factor. Whats out there ?? Thanks K9JAC
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[Repeater-Builder] found some data on Decibel duplexers & the DB4060 BpBr!!

[na6df]

Well, after a bunch of poking around, and calling DB/Allen 
Telecom/Andrews, they directed me to the new company who handles the 
old DB Products line of duplexers and such...

It's now called "DBSpectra" www.dbspectra.com

  Phone: 469.322.0080

Fax: 469.322.0079
 
1590 E. Hwy. 121 Bus. Bldg. A Lewisville TX 75056

I nice guy in the support department looked up the data on the DB4060 
for me and here's the scoop:

He did say that there was some difference in the loops for the 
different band segments, but all the cable lengths are the same for 
any segment.

Cables for the high pass side, including the one going to the tee are
10" cut length (cable only length, not including connector).
On the low pass side, cable to tee is also 10" cut length, but cable 
between cavities is 10.5", cut length.

He did not elaborate on any differences in the loops.

Enough "CSI Duplexer" for one day..

73,

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: db duplexer

[na6df]

Basic sheet on the website...
http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4055-56-67-68-71-72-high-band-
uhf-duplexers-installation-and-tuning-instructions.pdf


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> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone have or knows where to find the info on a DB 4072 UHF 
> duplexer? What's the best way to tune one using a simple service 
monitor?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Best Controllers

[Bryan Fields]

On Friday 10 February 2006 02:41 pm, J Hughes wrote:
> What are the best controllers out there ?? That will support 4 ports or
> more. Able to down-load the information and up-load new programs. Due
> audio processing.  Support multiple PL tones and DCS.  Top of the line
> Price is not a factor. Whats out there ?? Thanks K9JAC
How about a repeater system using asterisk and one of the radio cards, you can 
scale it up to 8 or more ports easily.  
http://www.zapatatelephony.org/app_rpt.html

The card is $500 and you need a halfway decient box to put it in.
unlike the other repeater linking software out there, app_rpt is Free 
Software.

I want to set this up as soon as I get some free time here.
-- 
Bryan Fields, KB9MCI

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Mike WA6ILQ

[n . mckie]

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] controller question

[Richard]

There is a version of Echolink (called EchoIRLP) that runs on Linux.
Installed on an IRLP box, EchoIRLP utilizes the same hardware and a few of
IRLP's scripts.

I have both running on my node.

Richard, N7TGB


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Richard wrote:

> If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, and then
> they'll both use the same hardware.
>
> Richard, N7TGB

Execpt IRLP runs in Linux and Echolink runs in windows...
There is a bridge program out there, poke around the www.irlp.org site a
bit.
Or google.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: db duplexer

[John]

Thanks, that's just what I needed

John, K4AG

na6df wrote:

>Basic sheet on the website...
>http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4055-56-67-68-71-72-high-band-
>uhf-duplexers-installation-and-tuning-instructions.pdf
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-85 Help...

[Andrew G.]

Ok thanks, everything is working ok for now, logic wise. My next problem is that the controller does not want to take the command to set the ID timer. I enter the correct command (had other people try to enter it as well) and it just responds "UL" for unlocked status and the change is not accepted. Any ideas? TIA     Andy KC2GOW
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Mike WA6ILQ

[Ronny Julian]

Another one heard from.  Will the bashings ever cease?

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

[Coy Hilton]

First, If you have an IRLP node and an Echolink node and tie them 
togeather, so that Echolink can talk into the IRLP node then youre 
likely to get cut off the IRLP end they strictly say that you will not 
do that!, Now having said that there is a program called ECHOIRLP 
That will eather/or to beused from the same machine(computer & 
repeater). IT runs on LINUX RED HAT FEDORA...I cant remember what 
version , but I think it was the last release. I run Echolink on my 
machine at Walt Disney World and have for about three years and I like 
it very much. Most of the people that I meet are great folks! 

As far as the controller well it depends on your setup. I have brouad 
band at home and shoot the Echolink to the repeater via RF link IT is 
simple. I use a simple NHRC2 Controller. They are not expensive ( a 
partial kit is around 40 bucks and is easy to build in an evening) and 
they work well and last a long time.

Good luck with your project and stay out of trouble
AC0Y   


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> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

[Coy Hilton]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, 

NOT!!!


and then
> they'll both use the same hardware.
> 
> Richard, N7TGB
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:21 PM
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>   Is there a repeater controller that I could use to tie an 
Echolink
> and IRLP together with? One that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
> 
> 
>Chris  KA7CJH
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: controller question

[Coy Hilton]

Actually EchoIRLP Does the BASIC things that Echolink does and most 
of the IRLP things BUT IT IS NOT ECHOLINK by any stretch. Echolink 
is one of the BEST programs for amateur radio to come down the pike 
in a while, bar none.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> There is a version of Echolink (called EchoIRLP) that runs on 
Linux.
> Installed on an IRLP box, EchoIRLP utilizes the same hardware and 
a few of
> IRLP's scripts.
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> I have both running on my node.
> 
> Richard, N7TGB
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim B.
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:34 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] controller question
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> Richard wrote:
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> > If you have an IRLP node you can easily install Echolink on it, 
and then
> > they'll both use the same hardware.
> >
> > Richard, N7TGB
> 
> Execpt IRLP runs in Linux and Echolink runs in windows...
> There is a bridge program out there, poke around the www.irlp.org 
site a
> bit.
> Or google.
> --
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Builders - Icomcs and Reeds

[Coy Hilton]

I would like the have the 103.5 reed, please
AC0Y

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> I have the following available that I don't see any future need 
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> Reeds
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> 103.5 Hz  PL19B205280G7  -  7 pin plug-in similar to miniature tube
> 123.0 Hz  PL19B205280G12 - 7 pin plug-in similar to miniature tube
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> EC
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> R158.970
> 16418.888
> PL19A1298393G7 
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> 13287.500
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availability
> of the  Repeater-Builder site. 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power

[Mike Morris]

At 03:48 AM 2/10/06, you wrote:

>Maybe Jeff or someone could explain the math here. I find it difficult
>to believe one needs to run 200 watts for reciprocal coverage to a
>typical mobile. And that's ignoring where I live, you'll never get
>frequency coordination for that much power anyway.
>
>Chuck
>WB2EDV

Several years ago W6OQK was running 250w on a 2m repeater
into a circular polarized antenna... and the receiver was still
outhearing the transmitter.

Mike WA6ILQ





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power

[mch]

There must have been a problem with the transmitter then, as most
mobiles don't run 200W and the receivers on both the repeater and the
mobiles can be easily matched uV for uV. In fact, it's easier to get
more sensitivity out of the mobiles since they don't have to worry about
duplex concerns, so the mobiles should be able to hear better than the
repeater (which would require LESS power out on the repeater for equal
signals).

All the antenna gains and feedline losses are exactly equal in both
directions, so that factor cancels out. The only items left are the
transmitter powers and receiver sensitivities. With the repeater TX
being so much higher, it should easily out-talk a 25-100W mobile coming
back.

Joe M.

Mike Morris wrote:
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> Several years ago W6OQK was running 250w on a 2m repeater
> into a circular polarized antenna... and the receiver was still
> outhearing the transmitter.
> 
> Mike WA6ILQ





 
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