[Repeater-Builder] Re: Phillips FX5000

2007-11-18 Thread davechorsley
Hi

does anybody have any information on the above please

Thanks

Dave Horsley




[Repeater-Builder] WTT : EF JOHNSON 7164 VHF 99CH FOR RS PRO-2067 SCANNER

2007-11-18 Thread Steve
Looking to trade my EF Johnson VHF 99 Channel Mobile for a Radio Shack 
PRO-2067 Scanner . Any Questions Please Ask .  

Thank You !

Steve efj44 .



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorhead (Motorola) 16 pin conn Maxtrac, GM300, M120 programming information?

2007-11-18 Thread kb1we6r
Here is what the Maxtrac High Signaling will do for the various 
schemes; (the programmable pins).
 http://members.trainorders.com/kbdunsmuir/maxtrac16pin.jpg 

and xls form;
 http://members.trainorders.com/kbdunsmuir/maxtrac16pin.xls
...Keith WE6R 

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 Motorhead (Motorola) 16 pin conn Maxtrac, GM300, M120, 
 Radius programming information? 
 
 Is there a place on the web that describes how the 16 pin jack on 
 the above listed Motorola Mobile Radios can be assigned and for 
 what I/O Functions.  
 s.





[Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you 
can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no 
noise, static, etc.

Thats DSTAR today.  From Hawaii to Alaska, to Vancouver to Ottawa, to 
Los Angeles, to London, to Berlin to Venice, to Darwin, AU.  Today and NOW.

I know this is probably a bit off topic, and I appreciate your indulgence.

visit www.dstarusers.org and see who's talking.

Steve NU5D, /K5CTX B  Temple, Texas US


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread John Barrett
Ohhh geez - just get your general and work some HF !! Internet linking just
to make contacts is NOT ham radio. setting up regional repeaters and such..
there is a good use for internet linking.

 

The ARRL Phone Sweeps are running this weekend . made any contacts ??

 

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(NU5D)
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:51 AM
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

 

Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you 
can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no 
noise, static, etc.

Thats DSTAR today. From Hawaii to Alaska, to Vancouver to Ottawa, to 
Los Angeles, to London, to Berlin to Venice, to Darwin, AU. Today and NOW.

I know this is probably a bit off topic, and I appreciate your indulgence.

visit www.dstarusers.org and see who's talking.

Steve NU5D, /K5CTX B Temple, Texas US

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread Ron Wright
Steve,

I think this is what is misunderstood by most repeater owners and users is that 
D-Star has set up a system that is not only digital voice, but a gateway for 
interconnecting them for those who wish to connect into the system.

It is more like analog repeaters connected into a chat IRLP or Echolink, but 
with better full duplex connectivity.

My interest in D-Star is the digital voice.  From a number of commercial and 
Ham users it seems digital has a much more fad/multi-path problem.  Know the 
world is going digital, but for mobile applications seems to have some 
problems.  For fixed got the path digital offers a lot.  

73, ron, n9ee/r



From: Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/11/18 Sun AM 08:50:31 CST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

  
Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you 
can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no 
noise, static, etc.

Thats DSTAR today.  From Hawaii to Alaska, to Vancouver to Ottawa, to 
Los Angeles, to London, to Berlin to Venice, to Darwin, AU.  Today and NOW.

I know this is probably a bit off topic, and I appreciate your indulgence.

visit www.dstarusers.org and see who's talking.

Steve NU5D, /K5CTX B  Temple, Texas US

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: [MobileAmateurRadio] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread Charles Scott

Or imagine the same for about 2500. That's IRLP today.  ;)

I do suspect that the D-Star systems available will continue to grow, but 
it's unlikely that it will every achieve the penetration of IRLP or 
Echolink. They are a bit different, althought IRLP is very similar except 
that you can set it up for about $100 and an old radio.

I think it will be more interesting as other manufacturers begin to offer 
D-Star and begin to drive the cost down.

Chuck - N8DNX


On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) wrote:

 Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you 
 can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no 
 noise, static, etc.
 
 Thats DSTAR today.  From Hawaii to Alaska, to Vancouver to Ottawa, to 
 Los Angeles, to London, to Berlin to Venice, to Darwin, AU.  Today and NOW.
 
 I know this is probably a bit off topic, and I appreciate your indulgence.
 
 visit www.dstarusers.org and see who's talking.
 
 Steve NU5D, /K5CTX B  Temple, Texas US



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread no6b
At 11/18/2007 06:50, you wrote:

Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you
can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no
noise, static, etc.

Thats DSTAR today.

That's also IRLP  Echolink today, albeit with much greater coverage.

Bob NO6B



[Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF PA control line question

2007-11-18 Thread bbedoe
Hi All,
 
I have an application were I am using a 10 watt GM300 to drive a Micor 75  
watt PA.  I have a couple of concerns about this and I thought it  would be 
better to ask the group than to blow up the PA and the GM300 (good  idea, 
right?)
 
I set the GM300 for 1.5 watts drive (Is 1.5 watts ok for a 0-10 watt  GM300?) 
 
I connected the control line to A+ ( the book says 6-10 v, but I've told  
this is OK, I question that logic.)
 
Keyed up, 105 watts!  Turned GM300 to 1 watt, got 90, 3/4 watt got  80!
 
OK, I'm blowing smoke, but I'm afraid of white smoke in cabinet!  I  would 
like to get this drive back to 1.5 -2 watts (protect the GM300 and prevent  
spurs) and get this PA back down to 70 watts
 
Any easy way to control the control line?
 
I'm missing something easy here, so flame suit is on!
 
73, Brian



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF PA control line question

2007-11-18 Thread Joe Montierth
A couple of ideas:

1. Build a simple voltage regulator capable of the current you need for
the controlled stage. I think about a couple of amps, but you could
insert an ammeter and actually measure it. Set your radio to 1.5 watts
and then set the voltage to whatever gives you the desired output.

2. Build a 3 dB pad capable of 5 watts or better. The easiest way to do
this is a coil of RG58 that is about 30 ft long. RG58 has about 1 dB
per 10ft loss at 450MHz. Then you could set your radio to 2.5 watts
out, and your amp would see 1.25 watts. Then attach your controlled
line to 12v, and set your output power by the GM300 level. The GM300
should work fine at any level above a watt or so.

Joe

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
  
 I have an application were I am using a 10 watt GM300 to drive a
 Micor 75  
 watt PA.  I have a couple of concerns about this and I thought it 
 would be 
 better to ask the group than to blow up the PA and the GM300 (good 
 idea, right?)
  
 I set the GM300 for 1.5 watts drive (Is 1.5 watts ok for a 0-10 watt 
 GM300?) 
  
 I connected the control line to A+ ( the book says 6-10 v, but I've
 told  
 this is OK, I question that logic.)
  
 Keyed up, 105 watts!  Turned GM300 to 1 watt, got 90, 3/4 watt got 
 80!
  
 OK, I'm blowing smoke, but I'm afraid of white smoke in cabinet!  I 
 would 
 like to get this drive back to 1.5 -2 watts (protect the GM300 and
 prevent  
 spurs) and get this PA back down to 70 watts
  
 Any easy way to control the control line?
  
 I'm missing something easy here, so flame suit is on!
  
 73, Brian
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF PA control line question

2007-11-18 Thread Jeff DePolo
 OK, I'm blowing smoke, but I'm afraid of white smoke in 
 cabinet!  I would like to get this drive back to 1.5 -2 watts 
 (protect the GM300 and prevent spurs) and get this PA back 
 down to 70 watts
  
 Any easy way to control the control line?

Why not skip the first two stages in the Micor amp and drive the driver
stage with your GM300?  Then you can just adjust the GM300's drive to get
the final TPO you want.  IIRC, the driver stage is normally around 8 watts
input, 25 output, which then feeds the four finals in the 75 watt PA.  Check
the manual to confirm those power levels.

Very important: there is NO HARMONIC FILTER in a UHF Micor PA - it's
outboard in the antenna network within the Micor station chassis.  If you're
going to use that Micor PA standalone, put an isolator and a good low-pass
filter on it.  Along the same lines, keep in mind that the 75 watt rating is
after the antenna network (isolator and harmonic filter); the PA's output is
normally in the 90-95 watt range before the antenna network.


--- Jeff



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor UHF PA control line question

2007-11-18 Thread Nate Duehr

On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, I'm blowing smoke, but I'm afraid of white smoke in cabinet!  I  
 would like to get this drive back to 1.5 -2 watts (protect the GM300  
 and prevent spurs) and get this PA back down to 70 watts


Someone mentioned making your own attenuator out of coax, but if you  
have a few bucks to put into it, in-line attenuators exist and make  
for a much cleaner installation...

http://www.surplussales.com/RF/RFAtten-2.html

That's just one example of sources for the things -- an online search  
for RF Attenuators yields a lot of vendors, some good some that  
obviously just jack up the prices and get them from somewhere else.   
YMMV.

You just have to do some hunting to find the right values for amount  
of attenuation and the average power level the attenuator can handle,  
since the loss is all turned to heat.

Inline attenuators also come in super-handy (as do tee connectors  
with variable coupling) for tuning up receivers and/or protecting a  
receiver from an overly aggressive pre-amp.   :-)

I see these things and hamfests and snatch them up, most people don't  
know what they're used for and/or don't know what they're worth, even  
on the used market... they're not always that cheap.

I know, I know, everyone's got one of those I found this great deal  
at a hamfest stories... and not everyone can find that same deal.   
But it's definitely worth keeping your eyes open for these things as  
you start to build systems.  You start to figure out what the hard  
or expensive components you MIGHT need are, and then you start to  
fill your basement with them -- and your wife just shakes her head and  
smiles, as long as you keep it all in the back corner where no one  
will see all of it.  (GRIN!)

Dayton often is the best place to shop, of course.  I've only been  
to Dayton once, and saw so many things there I'd love to have handy  
back home just in case I needed it that I had a hard time not  
blowing the budget I had set aside for myself.

Hunt the junk boxes at any hamfest you go to -- sometimes there are  
good deals on what are otherwise small and easy to lose parts like in- 
line attenuators, just waiting for you at the bottom of some guy's box  
full of utter junk.  :-)

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
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[Repeater-Builder] FS: Kenwood PG-4H cable

2007-11-18 Thread kk2ed
For sale:

Kenwood PG-4H cable. Brand new in its package.

This cable has an 8-pin round mic plug on one end (like the MC43 and 
MC60 mics), and the other end has an 8-pin RJ45 style modular plug. The 
cable itself is about 5ft long, and is a straight conductor. This cable 
was originally designed to interface the TM-X31A series mobile radios 
to a RC-xx multi radio controller. Almost like an early TM741 or Icom 
901, whereas the radio were used as band units, and the controller 
controlled them all remotely. 

This cable is also the cable used to interface that series radios to 
the Doug Hall RBI-1 repeater remote base interface. Thus the reason I 
have one left over from the days when I had the RBI-1 (long gone), and 
the reason for posting on repeater-builder.

$18 shipped USPS

Eric
KE2D




[Repeater-Builder] Misc repeater items for sale

2007-11-18 Thread kk2ed
I am selling off some repeater related items and have them listed on 
the famous auction site.  Items include one new and never used RC85 
controller board, a used RC-85, a brand new Link Comm DVR1 in rack case 
that I bought and never used, and some 400MHz window filters.  I'm not 
sure of the posting rules here on repeater builder, but if interested 
in them, search Ebay for the item names and you should be able to find 
them. 

Eric
KE2D




[Repeater-Builder] FW: Rogue cell phone has 911 on redial

2007-11-18 Thread Ray Brown
  Just wondering, I hope this is not an amateur repeater placing a 911 call
with an old bagphone...

_Ray_KBØSTN


November 18, 2007 5:30 PM CST

A rogue cell phone is not accepting calls, but it sure likes to dial 911
operators in eastern Iowa.

Operators at the Black Hawk County Consolidated Communications
Center said that they received about 400 calls from the same cell phone
last week and that no one seems to be on the other line.

That's it right now, said Dispatcher Chuck Hosier, as a phone rang in
the background. It will ring in, and it's an open line. Sometimes it rings
in and drops off.

Officials can't locate the phone but have figured out that it is an old line
not currently associated with a cell phone provider. Such phones, once
charged up, can still place 911 calls under Federal Communications
Commission rules set in 1994.

The cell phone can't receive calls, and emergency workers haven't been
able to track the owner through service records, either.

With this, we are pretty helpless, said Judy Flores, the center's 
administrative
supervisor.

Officials are suspicious that it could be a prank - but they say it's not funny
and potentially dangerous.

Until the source of the calls is found or they stop, dispatchers still have to
answer every call just in case someone is on the line with an emergency.

Copyright © 2007 The Associated Press.



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread John Barrett
Propagation :-( something I'm learned a lot about this last couple of weeks
- neat app called Radio Mobile I've been using to map out theoretical
coverage at various locations where I may be asked to drop my portable
repeater.. Makes me wish I had held out for a 60-75ft 3 section crank up to
put on my trailer, or a really tall hill to park on :-) Unfortunately - not
a lotta hills around this part of Texas :-(

 

Radio Mobile uses USGS topographical data and can do map overlays from
several free sources - check it out if you want to get some ideas where your
setup will have problems !!

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9wys
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

 

No, the complaints start when they can't hear/access the machine everywhere
with a full quieting signal.  It's amazing that some amateur licensees still
don't understand signal propagation.  frown   

 

But now I'm starting to get WAY off-topic.

 

73 de Mark - N9WYS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Bill

I kinda agree.  Get used to the infrastructure systems and you can't make a
contact when it goes down, that's when the complaining starts.  i.e.
cellphones and isp problems.  Heck that's when real amateur radio can shine!
Heck, the complaints start even when the repeater craps out.

 

William A. Collister

N7MOG 

 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread n9wys
I've got RM and used it for the past several years.  Quite a learning curve
with it, but for a free piece of software it is very comprehensive and has
served me very well!

 

Unfortunately, I need to attach the coverage plots to a 2x4 so I can whack
some of my users up-side the head with it in order to get the point across.
They just don't understand why they can't hear the repeater when they're
down in a river valley 25+ miles from the repeater and there's a ridge of
land that rises above them in between the repeater and their location.  I've
tried to explain about being in the shadow of the repeater but some just
don't seem to grasp the concept.  (We're talking UHF freqs here and FLAT
lands for the most part.  The repeater antenna is 175 ft HAAT at the tower
site.)

 

ARRRGH!!!

 

Mark - N9WYS

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of John Barrett



Propagation :-( something I'm learned a lot about this last couple of weeks
- neat app called Radio Mobile I've been using to map out theoretical
coverage at various locations where I may be asked to drop my portable
repeater.. Makes me wish I had held out for a 60-75ft 3 section crank up to
put on my trailer, or a really tall hill to park on :-) Unfortunately - not
a lotta hills around this part of Texas :-(

 

Radio Mobile uses USGS topographical data and can do map overlays from
several free sources - check it out if you want to get some ideas where your
setup will have problems !!

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n9wys

No, the complaints start when they can't hear/access the machine everywhere
with a full quieting signal.  It's amazing that some amateur licensees still
don't understand signal propagation.  frown  

But now I'm starting to get WAY off-topic.

73 de Mark - N9WYS

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Bill

I kinda agree.  Get used to the infrastructure systems and you can't make a
contact when it goes down, that's when the complaining starts.  i.e.
cellphones and isp problems.  Heck that's when real amateur radio can shine!
Heck, the complaints start even when the repeater craps out.

William A. Collister

N7MOG 

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread George Henry
Couple of big differences between D-Star, IRLP and Echolink:

With Echolink, any licensed amateur with a soundcard-equipped computer and 
an internet connection can connect to an Echolink-enabled repeater.  With 
IRLP and D-Star, you can only establish a connection between repeaters over 
the air - there is no access from the internet side.  And for now, only an 
Icom D-Star radio can connect to a D-Star repeater (yes, I know about the 
dongle, but it's not commercially available yet nor easily replicated), 
while any rig with a touchtone pad can dial up an IRLP link.

George, KA3HSW


- Original Message - 
From: Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage


 Steve,

 I think this is what is misunderstood by most repeater owners and users is 
 that D-Star has set up a system that is not only digital voice, but a 
 gateway for interconnecting them for those who wish to connect into the 
 system.

 It is more like analog repeaters connected into a chat IRLP or Echolink, 
 but with better full duplex connectivity.

 My interest in D-Star is the digital voice.  From a number of commercial 
 and Ham users it seems digital has a much more fad/multi-path problem. 
 Know the world is going digital, but for mobile applications seems to have 
 some problems.  For fixed got the path digital offers a lot.

 73, ron, n9ee/r



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor VHF 1/4 KW Repeater Available

2007-11-18 Thread bbedoe
Hi There!
 
What would you like for it?  My daughter teaches school in  Sycamore!
 
73, Brian, WD9HSY
 
Your kid may  be an Honor Student,
Your Kid may be a Great Athlete,
Your Kid may be a  Doctor or a Lawyer,
But My kid is in the US Air Force  plays with  ICBM's,  Inter Continental 
Ballistic Missiles, 

And what were you  saying?



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