Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need transistor for SCR200A

2009-02-22 Thread Joe
Hello Morris,

My schematic for the SCR-200 dated 5-17-82 shows Q101 as an MRF901 
transistor.  My schematic dated 7-22-86 shows it as a 6033.

73, Joe, K1ike


Morris Dillingham wrote:

 Hi Guys,

  

 I’m new to the list and have been just lurking and reading the mail 
 but now I can use some help finding a replacement transistor.  It’s 
 for a Spectrum Communications Corp SCR200A receiver.  The transistor 
 in question is the input RF transistor.  The schematic is difficult to 
 read for the part number but it appears to be 6033.  I can find no 
 cross reference to this and could use either direction to a 
 replacement or a scrapped SCR200A that I can salvage one from.  I know 
 it would be best to replace the receiver with a newer one but the club 
 doesn’t want to spend any more money than they have to on this old, 
 old repeater.  I have refurbished the power supply and the transmitter 
 and controller had been replaced earlier so I feel it’s worth some 
 effort.  Thanks for any help rendered.

  

 73 de
 Morris KI4IUA








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[Repeater-Builder] VHF Duplexer Wanted

2009-02-22 Thread Mike Mullarkey
If anybody has a Sinclair Q202GR-1 model duplexer or a TX/RX 28-37-02A model
duplexer. I am in the process of rebuilding the club repeater system and
need to replace the old duplexer that is older than dirt. If you have such a
unit that will work would you please contact me OFF THE LIST to cut down on
the repeat email traffic. k7...@comcast.net

 

 

Thanks,

 

Mike K7PFJ

303-954-9693

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: off site extra RX

2009-02-22 Thread rb_n3dab
Haven't been following this thread that closely, but if Mobile to repeater 
coverage in your downtown core area is good but HT coverage is marginal, (and 
coverage everywhere else is acceptable) why not   1.  try a preamp on your 
repeater receiver or  2.  consider changing out the cabling from the repeater 
antenna all the way back to the receiver to reduce line loss to a minimum.  

A 6-10 db gain preamp should bring the HT's up out off the background equal to 
the mobiles.  Maybe you could borrow on long enough to try it out and see it it 
helps before you invest in one.  I run preamps on all my UHF repeaters without 
any problems.  VhF is another thing because of the narrow spacing on the Ham 
band but if you have a wide spaced VHF system it should work as well.

Reducing you cable line loss , plus a good tuning of the receive side of the 
duplexer and repeater reciver wouldn't hurt either, if you haven't already done 
so.

My 2 cents worth. 
--
Doug   
N3DAB/WPRX486/WPJL709

 Rick Szajkowski va3r...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
its not a voted system ..

the repeater is a Harris Radio Phone repeater

and I was looking at a Ge Phoenix VHF to UHF to the repeater site UHF
phoenix to the controller

again just to help cover the HT's in town .. ( small town )

Was thinking just a simple J pole for the VHF side does not need a lot of
gain and will be on the roof of a 2 story building

like I said just an idea to extend coverage to handies in the  down town
core .. every where else the coverage is fine

coverage for handies is spotty down town .. mobiles are fine

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Laryn Lohman lar...@hotmail.com wrote:

   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com,
 rtc_0001 rtc_0...@... wrote:
 
  Problem #1: Unless you incorporate an
  adaptive delay into each audio path,
  you'll have audio arriving out of sync
  from the various rcvrs. This is where
  your echos will come from.

 The microseconds of difference would not be the issue. It's when you
 mix a noisy receiver's audio with a full quieting receiver's audio,
 the result is noisy audio. You can't (usefully) mix the two.

 
  Problem #2: Your audio will probably
  comprise unequal freq responses due the
  different rcvr  link characteristics.

 True, problem #2 will need (at least should) to be solved if you use a
 voter. And it's relatively easy, especially if you use the same
 brand/model of radios for each portion of the system. In other words,
 matching/same units for the remote receivers, again for the link
 transmitters, and once more for the link receivers. So you could use
 Mastr IIs for the link transmitters and Micors for the link receivers,
 no problem.

 With the four receivers on our voting system, I've not had to do any
 special EQing for reasonably good audio, with little difference
 between receivers.

 For more on voting systems:

 http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/votingcomparators.html

 http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/remotereceivers.html

 Laryn K8TVZ

  




Re: [Repeater-Builder] M/A-Comm M7100 Interface

2009-02-22 Thread Doug Bade
Scott;

It is the same as Orion It also depends on exactly what cables 
and/or connector you are pulling from... External PTT and COR need to 
be mapped in software to external I/O pins.. not all appear on each 
cable One downside, as of most recent info I have, there is no 
constant audio output eq to vol hi per-se... it is all subject to 
control of the volume control. Local volume affects remote volume...

Doug
KD8B


At 06:18 PM 2/21/2009, you wrote:

Can anyone out on the list provide pinouts for the accessory connector on a
M7100 mobile? I could like to get TX and RX audio as well as PTT and COS.

Thanks,
Scott



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need transistor for SCR200A

2009-02-22 Thread Morris Dillingham
Hi Joe,

That's a big help.  I saw what appeared to be 106 printed on the transistor
but the schematic said 6033.  With the information you provided it must be a
MRF901.  All I had to do was stand on my head and read it correctly. It
appears that you have the solution to my problem and I am grateful for your
response.  Thanks to you and the providers of this list for a great
resource.

73 de 
Morris KI4IUA
 


 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
 buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe
 Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:30 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need transistor for SCR200A
 
 Hello Morris,
 
 My schematic for the SCR-200 dated 5-17-82 shows Q101 as an MRF901
 transistor.  My schematic dated 7-22-86 shows it as a 6033.
 
 73, Joe, K1ike
 
 
 Morris Dillingham wrote:
 
  Hi Guys,
 
 
 
  I’m new to the list and have been just lurking and reading the mail
  but now I can use some help finding a replacement transistor.  It’s
  for a Spectrum Communications Corp SCR200A receiver.  The transistor
  in question is the input RF transistor.  The schematic is difficult to
  read for the part number but it appears to be 6033.  I can find no
  cross reference to this and could use either direction to a
  replacement or a scrapped SCR200A that I can salvage one from.  I know
  it would be best to replace the receiver with a newer one but the club
  doesn’t want to spend any more money than they have to on this old,
  old repeater.  I have refurbished the power supply and the transmitter
  and controller had been replaced earlier so I feel it’s worth some
  effort.  Thanks for any help rendered.
 
 
 
  73 de
  Morris KI4IUA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: off site extra RX

2009-02-22 Thread rtc_0001
I'm going to suggest another Poor man's voter 
despite the probability that someone, somewhere, 
has already done so.

I was thinking you might go ahead  build your 
2nd rcv site with a one way link to the main tx.  

However, you would rely on the link activation 
to vote the rx signal into the tx audio path.

In operation, the link rx at the main site will
force an audio gate to route the link rx audio 
to the main tx.

A careful setting of the squelch at the remote
rx will allow the main site rx to do most of the 
work but when the main site isn't hearing the 
portables well enough, the remote rx will. This 
is when the link audio gets switched in. 

There'll be a period of trial  error tweaking
of the remote's squelch but it can be done.You'll 
still want to make efforts to equalize the audio 
freq responses of all paths involved. I'm sure
you can find a way to make the switching fast.

Its not an ideal solution but it keeps operation
mostly transparant to the users.  ie. They don't
need to remember to change PL's or channels.


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... 
wrote:

 Someone else suggested the poor man's voter by simply requiring a 
 different PL tone for the other receiver. Users simply need to know 
 which tone to use for each area.
 
 The other solution is to simply link in a low profile repeater at  
 the desired location. This could even be on a different band.  
 Again, users would need to understand this as well.
 
 Chuck
 WB2EDV



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need transistor for SCR200A

2009-02-22 Thread Joe
That's what this list is all about.  I'm glad you found the answer to 
your question.

Now it's my turn, I will be posting a question about MASTRII PA amps.

73, Joe, K1ike


Morris Dillingham wrote:
 Hi Joe,

 That's a big help.  I saw what appeared to be 106 printed on the transistor
 but the schematic said 6033.  With the information you provided it must be a
 MRF901.  All I had to do was stand on my head and read it correctly. It
 appears that you have the solution to my problem and I am grateful for your
 response.  Thanks to you and the providers of this list for a great
 resource.

 73 de 
 Morris KI4IUA
   







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[Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

2009-02-22 Thread Joe
Hello list dwellers,

I went to our repeater site today and found the MASTRII PA dead.  I 
could hear the exciter on my HT and the exciter output checked out OK at 
250mw.  There was good DC to the PA deck, but no current draw.  I 
checked the usual suspects, the 2 buss wires that carry the DC, the RCA 
phone jack input, loose connections. etc.  Nothing appeared to be bad.  
I pulled it out and put it on the bench and now it works.  The major 
symptom was no current draw.  I can't find a thing wrong at this point.

Any ideas?

73, Joe, K1ike






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Intelligence Devices BXR-2200A Briefcase Repeater

2009-02-22 Thread no6b
At 2/21/2009 13:29, you wrote:
I believe that you now have a nice Haliburton aluminum briefcase.
Perhaps a DC power supply.
The duplexer might be usable as some sort of filter for reception in the
high VHF range
Unless you are licensed for something in the high section of VHF the rest is
just a pile of parts.
Of course you can spend a lot of time finding that out the hard way.

Are you sure?  Bear in mind that G.E. Mastr IIs, Exec IIs  MVPs originally 
setup for 171 MHz will tune right down to 2 meters, both TX  RX, no problem.

Now if the above was made from Motorola boards, yeah I believe it wouldn't 
move that far.

Bob NO6B



RE: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

2009-02-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Joe,

Use a magnifying glass to closely check every solder joint for cracks.  Some
such cracks appear due to temperature cycling over time.  I have already had
the same problem, where a PA was dead at the site but worked fine on the
bench.  It was around 40 degrees at the site, but around 70 at the bench.
Sure enough, a tiny crack had opened on a PA power lead.  Reflowing solder
at that connection cured the problem.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTRII 100 watt PA question

Hello list dwellers,

I went to our repeater site today and found the MASTRII PA dead.  I 
could hear the exciter on my HT and the exciter output checked out OK at 
250mw.  There was good DC to the PA deck, but no current draw.  I 
checked the usual suspects, the 2 buss wires that carry the DC, the RCA 
phone jack input, loose connections. etc.  Nothing appeared to be bad.  
I pulled it out and put it on the bench and now it works.  The major 
symptom was no current draw.  I can't find a thing wrong at this point.

Any ideas?

73, Joe, K1ike






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[Repeater-Builder] WTB: Mitrek Mounting Plates

2009-02-22 Thread rande1
I need two mounting plates for the trunk mounted transceiver.

Also looking for a low power Mitrek to be used as a receiver on 147 MHz.

Randy
WB0VHB



[Repeater-Builder] Rack mount enclosures

2009-02-22 Thread Tim Osborne
Hey gang I am tired of scratching and clawing for 1 Rack Unit 19
enclosures for controllers.
Does anyone have a source for these at a reasonable price?

Thanks Tim


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rack mount enclosures

2009-02-22 Thread AJ
Oddly enough, the last 3 I've used for repeater controller came from Power
Strip/Surge Suppressor surplus auctions off of eBay... Once I removed all of
the AC outlets and covered the unneeded holes with flat aluminum stock from
the Home Depot, it gave me plenty of room to mount the controller boards.
The power outlet strip, shipping and the flat aluminum stock altogether was
probably less than $20.

73s,

AJ, K6LOR

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Tim Osborne radio1...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hey gang I am tired of scratching and clawing for 1 Rack Unit 19
 enclosures for controllers.
 Does anyone have a source for these at a reasonable price?

 Thanks Tim
  



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Rack mount enclosures

2009-02-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Tim,

Scratch and claw no longer.  Marlin P. Jones has just what you want, for 20
bucks each.  I just bought two of them.  Go here:
www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=17086+BX

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Osborne
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rack mount enclosures

Hey gang I am tired of scratching and clawing for 1 Rack Unit 19
enclosures for controllers.
Does anyone have a source for these at a reasonable price?

Thanks Tim



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work

2009-02-22 Thread wd8chl
Jacob Suter wrote:
 Outlook needs a 'trigger lock' on the send button... Also, I have no idea
 why outlook decided to add a bunch of crap to my email.  Guess I should be
 using a decent mail program!

;c} Yeah-Thunderbird is one of the best ways to go!

 
 edits below:
 
 C Most preamps I run into are at least 10 years old.  Sure they might still
 work, but RF transistor technology has sure improved in the last few years.
 These amps are *not* going to pass DTV acceptably.

That's the gripe. If I put up an antenna that works fine for analog, 
there is no excuse for it NOT to work with digital, except that digital 
must be crap. Rf is RF.
Virtually everybody I have talked to has had nothing but problems with 
DTV. Invariably they get fewer channels, and stations that are good to 
excellent in analog can frequently be unwatchable in digital. To see a 
digital as reliably as an analog is the exception, not the rule.


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work

2009-02-22 Thread Barry



To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: wd8...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:19:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work





















Jacob Suter wrote:

 Outlook needs a 'trigger lock' on the send button... Also, I have no idea

 why outlook decided to add a bunch of crap to my email.  Guess I should be

 using a decent mail program!



;c} Yeah-Thunderbird is one of the best ways to go!



 

 edits below:

 

 C Most preamps I run into are at least 10 years old.  Sure they might still

 work, but RF transistor technology has sure improved in the last few years.

 These amps are *not* going to pass DTV acceptably.



That's the gripe. If I put up an antenna that works fine for analog, 

there is no excuse for it NOT to work with digital, except that digital 

must be crap. Rf is RF.
 
or the point of resonance is not suitable for dt so it's deaf



Virtually everybody I have talked to has had nothing but problems with 

DTV. Invariably they get fewer channels, and stations that are good to 

excellent in analog can frequently be unwatchable in digital. To see a 

digital as reliably as an analog is the exception, not the rule.
 So you suggest the physics in your part of the world differs from over here? 
as so far digital in my country has been successful with large distances also 
between set and tx . What is your explanation for such a thing



 

  














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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Complex Skywarn Paging System

2009-02-22 Thread Jeff Kincaid
A 30 second DTMF blast?  I think I'd use the first several
milliseconds of that to switch the radio to a useful channel.

'JK

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, dallasreact112
dallasreact...@... wrote:

 I am just curious if any other amateur 2 meter repeater has a more
 complex RACES Skywarn paging system than the 146.88 W5FC Dallas TX
 repeater?
 
 The normal daytime amateur state of the repeater is 110.9 Hz full PL. 
 
 To go into RACES Skywarn mode the following sequence occurs:
 
 1. Repeater Mode changes:
 
 a. PL changes to 114.8 Hz 
 
 b. RX squelch changes to OR mode squelch. Carrier squelch OR 114.8 Hz
 PL encode opens repeater. OR squelch allows the carrier squelch
 threshold to be set higher than PL squelch threshold. 
 
 2. RACES Tones out:
 
 a. 30 second DTMF A tone
 
 b. Motorola 2 tone sequential pager tones group 1
 
 c. Motorola 2 tone sequential pager tones group 2
 
 d. DTMF 0 sent three times in quick succession to activate the old
 Kenwood DTMF paging decoders available in their older units.
 
 I would love to hear from anyone that has a more complex paging routine.
 
 73
 
 Bernie Parker
 
 K5BP
 
 Dallas Amateur Radio Club
 
 Tech Officer





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work

2009-02-22 Thread JOHN MACKEY
If the digital is on a very different frequency, then the frequency
change is a reason why digital reception may be problematic.  For
example, if you are using a VHF antenna to try to receive
a UHF digital signal, that will be problematic.

-- Original Message --
Received: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:14:14 PM PST
From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work
 
 That's the gripe. If I put up an antenna that works fine for analog, 
 there is no excuse for it NOT to work with digital, except that digital 
 must be crap. Rf is RF.
 Virtually everybody I have talked to has had nothing but problems with 
 DTV. Invariably they get fewer channels, and stations that are good to 
 excellent in analog can frequently be unwatchable in digital. To see a 
 digital as reliably as an analog is the exception, not the rule.