[Repeater-Builder] uniden aru 251k

[ke5hkw]

I have this repeater and I need the modification for 440 amateur use. Any help 
on this will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.  Gary
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: MCH 
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:17:14 
To: 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

I can't speak specifically of Sinclair, most all of the models I've used 
will do either omni or cardioid by moving the elements. The spacing from 
the mast stays the same.

Joe M.

Nate Duehr wrote:
> On 5/18/2010 12:29 PM, Larry Horlick wrote:
>> I suspect that the harness does not affect the
>> pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
> 
> Yes, I believe this is correct.  Whenever I've looked, notice that the 
> omni versions are 1/2 wave spacing from the mast, and the cartioid are 
> 1/4 wave spacing from the mast, in almost all of Sinclair's product line.
> 
> Nate WY0X

[Repeater-Builder] Re: PIC stuff at Hamvention?

[windmaster49]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n...@... wrote:
> I wouldn't be so sure.  Like PICs, the ATmega644P is an 8-bit device.  Max. 
> clock speed is 20 MHz.  Some high end PICs can run @ 40 MHz.
> 
> The TT3+ used a mid-range PIC (16F series), which probably wouldn't be up 
> to the task of decoding, & at the assembly level the mid & high range PICs 
> aren't code-compatible, so porting code from the mid-range probably 
> wouldn't be any easier between the high-end PICs & the Atmel.
> 
> Bob NO6B

Hi Bob,

PIC and AVR are significantly different architectures.  They can't be compared 
on a clock cycle basis.  PIC's execute 1 instruction per 2 clock cycles.  AVR's 
execute 1 instruction per 1 clock cycle for the majority of instructions.  The 
16 series PIC's has a single 8-bit register (accumulator) and you have to 
constantly shuffle data back and forth into that register, wasting clock 
cycles.  AVR architecture has 32 8-bit registers.  There's a significant 
difference in how much work you can perform for a given clock rate between 
PIC's and AVR's, with AVR's having a significant advantage there.

So, in terms of instruction throughput, a 20MHz AVR = 40MHz PIC.  Then the 
additional performance advantage due to the AVR's 32 registers depends on the 
actual code or algorithm in use.

-Ryan

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[Nate Duehr]

On May 18, 2010, at 6:17 PM, MCH wrote:

> I can't speak specifically of Sinclair, most all of the models I've used 
> will do either omni or cardioid by moving the elements. The spacing from 
> the mast stays the same.
> 
> Joe M.

I am not an expert, but most of the Sinclair stuff I've used had the elements 
welded in place.  

These are the "HD" models (heavy-duty) ... they cost more, but the usually 
outlast the repeater gear, or match it for longevity.  If they have the 
internal harness, and the hardline run to them is done right for 
weatherproofing, they're damn near indestructible.  They also make them welded 
in the "Low PIM" models... no moving parts to make noise... 

I think you're right in the lower-end Sinclair line, there are elements that 
are just bolted to a mast, and you might even be able to buy the antenna 
without the mast, and provide your own.  I'm not a big fan of those.  

But the welded/HD models are spendy up-front.  I do think you get what you pay 
for, though.  On a site where hoisting and dealing with a 4-bay wasn't going to 
be all that much difference in real-world coverage over a 2-bay, two clubs went 
together out here last winter and bought two 2-element HD VHF versions.  They 
were BEEFY... but they didn't survive the dude who ran over both of them with a 
forklift at a warehouse somewhere between here and Canada... 

THAT was fun... insurance claims (by the shipper) and having to order two more 
out-of-stock antennas, and wait, and wait... and wait... 

But the end result was well worth it.  The antennas are up, and working great.  
The last one at that site had an external harness, and lasted 10 years... in 
some nasty mountain-top wind, snow, ice conditions... plus baking in the 
high-altitude sun (UV rays) for all that time.  What finally killed it WAS the 
Sun... the harness became so brittle that no amount of electrical tape and 
painting with sealant could save it.  And none of us had the time to do what 
someone here is doing... re-harnessing it.

We got quite a bit better than list price, but I think list is just over 
$400... for $40 a year... I'll take the expensive antenna, any day... over 
farting around with a lower quality one!  ;-)  Time is worth something... 

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
n...@natetech.com

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[kd8biw]

Chuck,

Follow this link, all 4 of the radios listed under trunking have the capability 
of RSSI voting.  It's part of Icom's "Passport" function.

http://www.icomamerica.com/en/products/landmobile/trunking/f43tr/default.aspx

Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
http://www.duplexcom.net


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Kelsey"  wrote:
>
> I don't seem to find those models on Icom's website.
> 
> I'm also assuming, due to lack of responses, that voted receive is not 
> popular here in the U.S. Only one other response that indicated Tait offers 
> the feature, but I didn't go looking to confirm that.
> 
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "kd8biw" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:03 AM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive
> 
> 
> > Icom makes a few models with the RSSI Voting feature.  Check out the 
> > IC-F621R and the IC-F6061 as a few examples.
> >
> > Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
> > DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
> > http://www.duplexcom.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Verizon Tarif

[John]

If you have Internet to the site, or can get it there 
(http://www.ubnt.com/rocketm) you could always use VOIP.  (see 
http://www.google.com/products?q=pap2+na&aq=f )

If you just need a number up to the site you can get one free from someone like:

http://www.ipkall.com/

If you need call in and out, then someone like:

http://vitelity.net/  ($2/mo. and $0.01 - $0.02 a minute)

Maybe less for outbound only (e.g. autopatch)

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "rahwayflynn"  wrote:
>
> Anyone know if Verizon has a published tarif for repeater interconnects? 
> (Amateur Radio, not LMR)
>

-- John, K7VE

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[MCH]

I can't speak specifically of Sinclair, most all of the models I've used 
will do either omni or cardioid by moving the elements. The spacing from 
the mast stays the same.

Joe M.

Nate Duehr wrote:
> On 5/18/2010 12:29 PM, Larry Horlick wrote:
>> I suspect that the harness does not affect the
>> pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
> 
> Yes, I believe this is correct.  Whenever I've looked, notice that the 
> omni versions are 1/2 wave spacing from the mast, and the cartioid are 
> 1/4 wave spacing from the mast, in almost all of Sinclair's product line.
> 
> Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

[DCFluX]

Take a look at the Propeller Chip, New from Parallax. Has 8
independent processors on a shared bus. Cant rattle off the specs off
the top of my head, but there is enough processor power to run a VGA
display, run a RS-232 terminal, get keyboard input and encode/decode
data at the same time.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] PIC stuff at Hamvention?

[no6b]

At 5/17/2010 18:22, you wrote:
>On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 09:16:32PM -0400, MCH wrote:
> > Either that, or it was disinformation (although it's easy enough to
> > verify - I just didn't want to pick up the TT4 and look at it since it
> > was connected and operating). One of his products even has PIC in the name.
>
> I can confirm that the TT4 uses an ATMega... built version is
>SMT (but I've never handled one), the TT4 kit I built and am using is
>in DIP-40.
>
> I don't think a PIC would handle encoding/decoding, and KISS
>support along with the tracking code and the like.

I wouldn't be so sure.  Like PICs, the ATmega644P is an 8-bit device.  Max. 
clock speed is 20 MHz.  Some high end PICs can run @ 40 MHz.

The TT3+ used a mid-range PIC (16F series), which probably wouldn't be up 
to the task of decoding, & at the assembly level the mid & high range PICs 
aren't code-compatible, so porting code from the mid-range probably 
wouldn't be any easier between the high-end PICs & the Atmel.

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[Chuck Kelsey]

Thanks Gareth. 

No, I don't need anything - I'm just curious about the feature since I've never 
heard about it, nor had my local Kenwood and Harris dealer. 

Could you provide me with some Kenwood model numbers that offer this feature so 
that I can pass it along to him?

Chuck


  - Original Message - 
  From: Gareth Bennett 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive





  Most high end portables and mobiles have this voting feature.

  I could send you the firmware for the VX-820 series Vertex Standard portables 
as I developed the voting for this radio.

  As mentioned, Tait, Motorola, Kenwood, Icom, Simoco, HYT and GME all have 
this feature. Some brands may call it by a different name like RSSI Scan or 
RSSI Voting etc.


  Gareth Bennett

  RadioSystems
  P.O. Box 5202
  Dunedin  9024
  New Zealand

  DDI:   (03) 489 1101
  FAX:   (03) 489 1151
  MOB: (0224) 588 377
  gare...@radsys.co.nz

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[Gareth Bennett]

Most high end portables and mobiles have this voting feature.

I could send you the firmware for the VX-820 series Vertex Standard portables 
as I developed the voting for this radio.

As mentioned, Tait, Motorola, Kenwood, Icom, Simoco, HYT and GME all have this 
feature. Some brands may call it by a different name like RSSI Scan or RSSI 
Voting etc.


Gareth Bennett

RadioSystems
P.O. Box 5202
Dunedin  9024
New Zealand

DDI:   (03) 489 1101
FAX:   (03) 489 1151
MOB: (0224) 588 377
gare...@radsys.co.nz

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Kelsey 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive




  Nope, wrong thing. I'm not talking about that kind of voting. I'm talking of 
a user radio that has the capability to vote between the repeater input and 
output and listen to the strongest signal. A form of talk-around, if you will.

  Chuck
  WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Seybold 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive


Voting receivers are in heavy use in public safety, here in SB County all 
of the agencies: Fire, both County and City, Sheriff, and City PD use GE 
Voters, and we use them on our ham repeaters. There are hundreds if not more 
voting systems around California, mostly older GE Types.



The old GE Signal to noise voters work great-Doug Hall (Hall Electronics) 
copied them and was selling his version of them, don't know if he is still 
doing so, and there are some never versions coming for commercial and public 
safety service in the near future from companies you will recognize.



Andy W6AMS



From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:22 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive



  

All the motorola xts/xtl series can do it with the correct firmware 
Tait and simoco as well.

Greg

On Tue May 18th, 2010 4:22 AM PDT Chuck Kelsey wrote:

>I don't seem to find those models on Icom's website.
>
>I'm also assuming, due to lack of responses, that voted receive is not 
>popular here in the U.S. Only one other response that indicated Tait 
offers 
>the feature, but I didn't go looking to confirm that.
>
>Chuck
>WB2EDV
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "kd8biw" 
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:03 AM
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive
>
>
>> Icom makes a few models with the RSSI Voting feature. Check out the 
>> IC-F621R and the IC-F6061 as a few examples.
>>
>> Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
>> DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
>> http://www.duplexcom.net
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[Larry Horlick]

Indeed. Most of it is hand written, and come from Sinclair training
material.
These are copies, not originals and for the life of me I cannot remember
where I got. I'm thinking it was given to me by one the Sinclair gurus in
Aurora
when I dropped in one day to pick up some invar rods for a Q202 duplexer
that
I was given. Anyway this guy came out of the shop and we had a short
discussion
about various Sinclair products. He took out to the plant floor and after
went back
to his office. He was a production manager and hand drew in front of me
several
curves for different filters. It turned into a 3 hour training session for
me. He covered
so much material that I retained only a fraction. He was very knowedgeable
and
extremely passionate about his work and the product. I ultimately walked
away with
4 rods, gratis, and he followed up with a phone call a couple of weeks later
to see
if I was successful in refirbishing the duplexer. This was Feb of 1990 and
the list price
of the rods, then, were $18.50 ea.

lh


On 5/18/10, N1BUG  wrote:
>
> That's correct. The folded dipole impedance is 300 ohms. The 1/4
> wavelength of 125 ohm coax transforms that down close to 50 ohms.
> This 1/4 wavelength matching section is completely inside the dipole
> itself. The transition to 50 ohm cable occurs somewhere near the top
> of the folded dipole, so we see the 50 ohm cable exiting the dipole.
>
> In my dipoles the 125 ohm cable is RG-63B/U which, owing to its
> partly air dielectric, no doubt has a higher velocity factor than
> solid dielectric coax. So the section is somewhat longer than 13.5
> inches. I'm still trying to find a reference to the exact velocity
> factor of RG-63B/U.
>
> It sounds like you have some very interesting (and rare) Sinclair
> documentation there!
>
> Paul N1BUG
>
>
> Larry Horlick wrote:
> >
> >
> > On the drawing it does not show any 125 ohm cable, but I think what you
> > are saying is that
> > from the feedpoint of the folded dipole, inside the tubing there is a
> > 1/4 wavelength piece of
> > 125 ohm cable (about 13.5 inches at 2m) that is joined to 50 ohm cable.
> > What we see exiting
> > the tube (opposite the feedpoint) is the 50 ohm stuff. If this is
> > correct it fully explains a drawing
> > on the previous page showing a cross section of a single element folder
> > dipole. \
> >
> > lh
> >
> > On 5/18/10, *N1BUG* mailto:p...@n1bug.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks. That makes sense and should work out quite well for a
> > harness external to the mast. Of course the quarter wave of 125 ohm
> > coax will still be required inside each dipole, but the use of all
> > 50 ohm coax beyond that point simplifies construction.
> >
> > Apparently Sinclair had different ways of doing it, perhaps
> > depending on the exact model. Or maybe they changed the harness
> > design at some point.
> >
> > Paul N1BUG
> >
> > Larry Horlick wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles
> > (it
> > >  does not indicate an
> > >  antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness
> > >  picture from the link
> > >  below as a template, this is how it's done:
> > >
> > >  Feedlines from dipole A, B, C, and D are any length, but
> identical. A
> > >  and B go to a tee,
> > >  C and D go to another tee. The feedlines from the output (if I am
> > >  allowed to use that rather
> > >  crude term!) of these tees are any odd 1/4 wavelength (but do not
> > have
> > >  to be the same) and go
> > >  to a 3rd tee. The output of this tee is 50 ohms. I suspect that
> the
> > >  harness does not affect the
> > >  pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
> > >
> > >  lh
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[N1BUG]

That's correct. The folded dipole impedance is 300 ohms. The 1/4 
wavelength of 125 ohm coax transforms that down close to 50 ohms. 
This 1/4 wavelength matching section is completely inside the dipole 
itself. The transition to 50 ohm cable occurs somewhere near the top 
of the folded dipole, so we see the 50 ohm cable exiting the dipole.

In my dipoles the 125 ohm cable is RG-63B/U which, owing to its 
partly air dielectric, no doubt has a higher velocity factor than 
solid dielectric coax. So the section is somewhat longer than 13.5 
inches. I'm still trying to find a reference to the exact velocity 
factor of RG-63B/U.

It sounds like you have some very interesting (and rare) Sinclair 
documentation there!

Paul N1BUG


Larry Horlick wrote:
>  
> 
> On the drawing it does not show any 125 ohm cable, but I think what you 
> are saying is that
> from the feedpoint of the folded dipole, inside the tubing there is a 
> 1/4 wavelength piece of
> 125 ohm cable (about 13.5 inches at 2m) that is joined to 50 ohm cable. 
> What we see exiting
> the tube (opposite the feedpoint) is the 50 ohm stuff. If this is 
> correct it fully explains a drawing
> on the previous page showing a cross section of a single element folder 
> dipole. \
>  
> lh
>  
> On 5/18/10, *N1BUG* mailto:p...@n1bug.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks. That makes sense and should work out quite well for a
> harness external to the mast. Of course the quarter wave of 125 ohm
> coax will still be required inside each dipole, but the use of all
> 50 ohm coax beyond that point simplifies construction.
> 
> Apparently Sinclair had different ways of doing it, perhaps
> depending on the exact model. Or maybe they changed the harness
> design at some point.
> 
> Paul N1BUG
> 
> Larry Horlick wrote:
> >
> >
> >  I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles
> (it
> >  does not indicate an
> >  antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness
> >  picture from the link
> >  below as a template, this is how it's done:
> >
> >  Feedlines from dipole A, B, C, and D are any length, but identical. A
> >  and B go to a tee,
> >  C and D go to another tee. The feedlines from the output (if I am
> >  allowed to use that rather
> >  crude term!) of these tees are any odd 1/4 wavelength (but do not
> have
> >  to be the same) and go
> >  to a 3rd tee. The output of this tee is 50 ohms. I suspect that the
> >  harness does not affect the
> >  pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
> >
> >  lh
> 
> 
> 






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[Nate Duehr]

On 5/18/2010 12:29 PM, Larry Horlick wrote:
> I suspect that the harness does not affect the
> pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.

Yes, I believe this is correct.  Whenever I've looked, notice that the 
omni versions are 1/2 wave spacing from the mast, and the cartioid are 
1/4 wave spacing from the mast, in almost all of Sinclair's product line.

Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[Larry Horlick]

On the drawing it does not show any 125 ohm cable, but I think what you are
saying is that
from the feedpoint of the folded dipole, inside the tubing there is a 1/4
wavelength piece of
125 ohm cable (about 13.5 inches at 2m) that is joined to 50 ohm cable. What
we see exiting
the tube (opposite the feedpoint) is the 50 ohm stuff. If this is correct it
fully explains a drawing
on the previous page showing a cross section of a single element folder
dipole. \

lh

On 5/18/10, N1BUG  wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks. That makes sense and should work out quite well for a
> harness external to the mast. Of course the quarter wave of 125 ohm
> coax will still be required inside each dipole, but the use of all
> 50 ohm coax beyond that point simplifies construction.
>
> Apparently Sinclair had different ways of doing it, perhaps
> depending on the exact model. Or maybe they changed the harness
> design at some point.
>
> Paul N1BUG
>
> Larry Horlick wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles (it
> > does not indicate an
> > antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness
> > picture from the link
> > below as a template, this is how it's done:
> >
> > Feedlines from dipole A, B, C, and D are any length, but identical. A
> > and B go to a tee,
> > C and D go to another tee. The feedlines from the output (if I am
> > allowed to use that rather
> > crude term!) of these tees are any odd 1/4 wavelength (but do not have
> > to be the same) and go
> > to a 3rd tee. The output of this tee is 50 ohms. I suspect that the
> > harness does not affect the
> > pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
> >
> > lh
> 
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Rangr 150 - garbled audio when squelch tones are on

[kevin valentino]

It is deffinately an electrolytic. look for a radial type with a slightly 
"convex top" I forget exactly where it is, been a while since I worked on 
those. When an electrolytic is going bad, or is bad, one sign is the swelling 
on the top. they usually swell just before they short. Test with a good DVM on 
the continuity range. it should beep until the cap charges, reversing the leads 
will make it beep until it discharges. (usually on a value of 4.7uF or more) 
continous tone means it is shorted. compare time of charge/ discharge to a 
known good cap or of course use capacitance meter if you have one. look in the 
discriminator line from the receive through the tone circuit itself. Also seen 
same with just bad solder joints.

--- On Mon, 5/17/10, tec1122000  wrote:


From: tec1122000 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Rangr 150 - garbled audio when squelch tones are 
on
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 12:04 PM


  



I own 4 GE Rangr 150s. 2 of the 40 watt and 2 of the 110 watt. They transmit 
and receive beautifully without the Call Guard tones turned on. The deviation 
is a little low and won't allow me to get full 4.75 kHz deviation, but the 
audio quality is perfect. When I turn on the Call Guard tone to use a repeater, 
there is a bunch of noise added to the voice audio. I am thinking that if I 
have 4 radios doing this, then someone else must have seen this problem before 
and hopefully has some answers. This radio doesn't have a separate tone board 
as some evidently do. The tones are created in the CPU and sent to the audio 
circuitry on the WALSH BIT lines from the CPU. Has anyone seen this before?

I have adjusted the deviation pots (one for the PLL, one for the exciter) and 
still can't get the deviation up to spec. I am getting about 2.75kHz.

I have the manual and have studied it thoroughly. My guess here is that I have 
a failing component such as a capacitor that is reducing my audio. Just wanted 
to see if anyone else has had this problem with these old radios.

[Repeater-Builder] GE Rangr 150 - garbled audio when squelch tones are on

[tec1122000]

I own 4 GE Rangr 150s. 2 of the 40 watt and 2 of the 110 watt. They transmit 
and receive beautifully without the Call Guard tones turned on. The deviation 
is a little low and won't allow me to get full 4.75 kHz deviation, but the 
audio quality is perfect. When I turn on the Call Guard tone to use a repeater, 
there is a bunch of noise added to the voice audio. I am thinking that if I 
have 4 radios doing this, then someone else must have seen this problem before 
and hopefully has some answers. This radio doesn't have a separate tone board 
as some evidently do. The tones are created in the CPU and sent to the audio 
circuitry on the WALSH BIT lines from the CPU. Has anyone seen this before?

I have adjusted the deviation pots (one for the PLL, one for the exciter) and 
still can't get the deviation up to spec.  I am getting about 2.75kHz.

I have the manual and have studied it thoroughly.  My guess here is that I have 
a failing component such as a capacitor that is reducing my audio.  Just wanted 
to see if anyone else has had this problem with these old radios.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[N1BUG]

Thanks. That makes sense and should work out quite well for a 
harness external to the mast. Of course the quarter wave of 125 ohm 
coax will still be required inside each dipole, but the use of all 
50 ohm coax beyond that point simplifies construction.

Apparently Sinclair had different ways of doing it, perhaps 
depending on the exact model. Or maybe they changed the harness 
design at some point.

Paul N1BUG


Larry Horlick wrote:
>  
> 
> I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles (it 
> does not indicate an
> antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness 
> picture from the link
> below as a template, this is how it's done:
>  
> Feedlines from dipole A, B, C, and D are any length, but identical. A 
> and B go to a tee,
> C and D go to another tee. The feedlines from the output (if I am 
> allowed to use that rather
> crude term!) of these tees are any odd 1/4 wavelength (but do not have 
> to be the same) and go
> to a 3rd tee. The output of this tee is 50 ohms. I suspect that the 
> harness does not affect the
> pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
>  
> lh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[Larry Horlick]

You're right, Joe. They are both labeled the same, so they are the same
length
but can be any odd 1/4 wavelength.

lh


On 5/18/10, MCH  wrote:
>
>
>
> The ones going to the third 'T' should be the same length to avoid
> out-of-phase issues.
>
> Joe M.
>
> Larry Horlick wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles (it
> > does not indicate an
> > antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness
> > picture from the link
> > below as a template, this is how it's done:
> >
> > Feedlines from dipole A, B, C, and D are any length, but identical. A
> > and B go to a tee,
> > C and D go to another tee. The feedlines from the output (if I am
> > allowed to use that rather
> > crude term!) of these tees are any odd 1/4 wavelength (but do not have
> > to be the same) and go
> > to a 3rd tee. The output of this tee is 50 ohms. I suspect that the
> > harness does not affect the
> > pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
> >
> > lh
> >
> > On 5/18/10, *N1BUG*   p...@n1bug.com >> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Burt,
> >
> > > Did I hear my name mentioned??? Maybe just ESP:-)
> >
> > Yes you did, Great Sinclair dipole guru! :-)
> >
> > I got the dipole drawing from your new web site. Thanks! That part
> > I'm clear on, but still a bit confused on the phasing harness.
> >
> > > I would suggest that you don't even consider putting the harnass
> > inside
> > > the mast (unless Harold can tell us how Sinclair does it). Put the
> > > harness on the outside of the mast like the SRL210A4.
> >
> > Uh, yeah, I hear that. I like the idea of the internal harness, but
> > I just spent 3 hours getting the old harness *out* of the mast. I
> > can't imagine how it was put *in* there.
> >
> > > To combine the impedances on a 4 bay Sinclair array is simple. Divide
> > > the dipoles into pairs and parallel them. This gives 25 ohms.
> > Then add
> > > an electrical quarter wave of 50 ohm coax (RG-213/U) to transform
> > it to
> > > 100 ohms. Combine the matching coax from each pair in parallel to
> > give
> > > 50 ohms. Then you can connect your feedline at any length from this
> > > latter 50 ohm connection.
> >
> > Here is a crude drawing of what I think you are saying:
> >
> > http://www.n1bug.com/dipoleharness1.jpg
> >
> > Points X and Y are the 100 ohm points created by adding an
> > electrical quarter wave of RG-213 coming out of the 25 ohm point
> > where two dipoles are connected in parallel. But points X and Y are
> > physically several feet apart. That being said, I think the coax
> > that joins those points at the final parallel junction (to connect
> > to the feedline) would have to be a multiple of an electrical half
> > wavelength in order to repeat the 100 ohms at the other end (thus
> > ending up with 50 ohms when you parallel them)?
> >
> > If so, I'm still confused on how they did this for both cardioid and
> > bidirectional versions of this antenna with the harness inside the
> > mast. Required physical lengths would be different due to the
> > different dipole spacing from the mast. One can only work with
> > physical lengths that "fit" inside the mast (I guess?) but this
> > seems to clash with the electrical length required for impedance
> > matching. It's a non-issue since I have no way of getting a new
> > harness inside the mast. With an external harness I can just coil up
> > or loop any extra length required for matching reasons. But I'd
> > still like to understand how they did it. :-)
> >
> > In any case, the phasing harness on my 210C4 was done differently.
> > It uses a combination of RG-213/U and RG-63B/U in the harness
> > itself. Here is a sketch of it:
> >
> > http://www.n1bug.com/210C4harness.jpg
> >
> > Here, if we assume points X and Y are 100 ohms, point Z (where the
> > feedline attaches) would fall somewhere between 50 ohms and 78 ohms,
> > depending on the electrical length of the RG-63B/U coax connecting
> > them. I'm trying to look up the velocity factor of RG-63B/U (part
> > PE, part air dielectric), but having no luck so far.
> >
> > All of which seems completely different from the picture at
> >
> > http://forum.radioamateur.ca/index.php?topic=2245.0
> >
> > where there appears to be just a quarter wave section of coax off
> > each side of point Z to the "T" for each pair of dipoles. I don't
> > know how that was physically possible given the dipole spacing. I
> > think we can safely assume I'm missing something here. :-)
> >
> > Paul N1BUG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[MCH]

The ones going to the third 'T' should be the same length to avoid 
out-of-phase issues.

Joe M.

Larry Horlick wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles (it 
> does not indicate an
> antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness 
> picture from the link
> below as a template, this is how it's done:
>  
> Feedlines from dipole A, B, C, and D are any length, but identical. A 
> and B go to a tee,
> C and D go to another tee. The feedlines from the output (if I am 
> allowed to use that rather
> crude term!) of these tees are any odd 1/4 wavelength (but do not have 
> to be the same) and go
> to a 3rd tee. The output of this tee is 50 ohms. I suspect that the 
> harness does not affect the
> pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.
>  
> lh
>  
> On 5/18/10, *N1BUG* mailto:p...@n1bug.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Burt,
> 
>  > Did I hear my name mentioned??? Maybe just ESP:-)
> 
> Yes you did, Great Sinclair dipole guru! :-)
> 
> I got the dipole drawing from your new web site. Thanks! That part
> I'm clear on, but still a bit confused on the phasing harness.
> 
>  > I would suggest that you don't even consider putting the harnass
> inside
>  > the mast (unless Harold can tell us how Sinclair does it). Put the
>  > harness on the outside of the mast like the SRL210A4.
> 
> Uh, yeah, I hear that. I like the idea of the internal harness, but
> I just spent 3 hours getting the old harness *out* of the mast. I
> can't imagine how it was put *in* there.
> 
>  > To combine the impedances on a 4 bay Sinclair array is simple. Divide
>  > the dipoles into pairs and parallel them. This gives 25 ohms.
> Then add
>  > an electrical quarter wave of 50 ohm coax (RG-213/U) to transform
> it to
>  > 100 ohms. Combine the matching coax from each pair in parallel to
> give
>  > 50 ohms. Then you can connect your feedline at any length from this
>  > latter 50 ohm connection.
> 
> Here is a crude drawing of what I think you are saying:
> 
> http://www.n1bug.com/dipoleharness1.jpg
> 
> Points X and Y are the 100 ohm points created by adding an
> electrical quarter wave of RG-213 coming out of the 25 ohm point
> where two dipoles are connected in parallel. But points X and Y are
> physically several feet apart. That being said, I think the coax
> that joins those points at the final parallel junction (to connect
> to the feedline) would have to be a multiple of an electrical half
> wavelength in order to repeat the 100 ohms at the other end (thus
> ending up with 50 ohms when you parallel them)?
> 
> If so, I'm still confused on how they did this for both cardioid and
> bidirectional versions of this antenna with the harness inside the
> mast. Required physical lengths would be different due to the
> different dipole spacing from the mast. One can only work with
> physical lengths that "fit" inside the mast (I guess?) but this
> seems to clash with the electrical length required for impedance
> matching. It's a non-issue since I have no way of getting a new
> harness inside the mast. With an external harness I can just coil up
> or loop any extra length required for matching reasons. But I'd
> still like to understand how they did it. :-)
> 
> In any case, the phasing harness on my 210C4 was done differently.
> It uses a combination of RG-213/U and RG-63B/U in the harness
> itself. Here is a sketch of it:
> 
> http://www.n1bug.com/210C4harness.jpg
> 
> Here, if we assume points X and Y are 100 ohms, point Z (where the
> feedline attaches) would fall somewhere between 50 ohms and 78 ohms,
> depending on the electrical length of the RG-63B/U coax connecting
> them. I'm trying to look up the velocity factor of RG-63B/U (part
> PE, part air dielectric), but having no luck so far.
> 
> All of which seems completely different from the picture at
> 
> http://forum.radioamateur.ca/index.php?topic=2245.0
> 
> where there appears to be just a quarter wave section of coax off
> each side of point Z to the "T" for each pair of dipoles. I don't
> know how that was physically possible given the dipole spacing. I
> think we can safely assume I'm missing something here. :-)
> 
> Paul N1BUG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Verizon Tarif

[George Henry]

Some people have successfully fought their local phone company, using the 
argument that amateur radio is specifically NOT a business (citing Part 97), 
and gotten residential or other cheaper rates than the business line rate.  
OTOH, some phone companies have refused to accomodate hams, stating that the 
tower location is obviously not a residence.  

Try contacting your nearest ARRL volunteer counsel...  he might try writing a 
carefully drafted letter on your behalf.  Letters from lawyers often get better 
results than letters from Joe Ham...



George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


Walter H 
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 12:23:12 PM
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Verizon Tarif
>
>  
>Every place I know of, all you need is a business line.
>
>WalterH
>
>--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "rahwayflynn"  wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know if Verizon has a published tarif for repeater interconnects? 
>> (Amateur Radio, not LMR)
>>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[Larry Horlick]

I have a drawing from Sinclair that shows 4 stacked folded dipoles (it does
not indicate an
antenna model) using all 50 ohm cable. So using the 210C4 harness picture
from the link
below as a template, this is how it's done:

Feedlines from dipole A, B, C, and D are any length, but identical. A and B
go to a tee,
C and D go to another tee. The feedlines from the output (if I am allowed to
use that rather
crude term!) of these tees are any odd 1/4 wavelength (but do not have to be
the same) and go
to a 3rd tee. The output of this tee is 50 ohms. I suspect that the harness
does not affect the
pattern, but rather it is the dipole to mast spacing.

lh

On 5/18/10, N1BUG  wrote:
>
> Hi Burt,
>
> > Did I hear my name mentioned??? Maybe just ESP:-)
>
> Yes you did, Great Sinclair dipole guru! :-)
>
> I got the dipole drawing from your new web site. Thanks! That part
> I'm clear on, but still a bit confused on the phasing harness.
>
> > I would suggest that you don't even consider putting the harnass inside
> > the mast (unless Harold can tell us how Sinclair does it). Put the
> > harness on the outside of the mast like the SRL210A4.
>
> Uh, yeah, I hear that. I like the idea of the internal harness, but
> I just spent 3 hours getting the old harness *out* of the mast. I
> can't imagine how it was put *in* there.
>
> > To combine the impedances on a 4 bay Sinclair array is simple. Divide
> > the dipoles into pairs and parallel them. This gives 25 ohms. Then add
> > an electrical quarter wave of 50 ohm coax (RG-213/U) to transform it to
> > 100 ohms. Combine the matching coax from each pair in parallel to give
> > 50 ohms. Then you can connect your feedline at any length from this
> > latter 50 ohm connection.
>
> Here is a crude drawing of what I think you are saying:
>
> http://www.n1bug.com/dipoleharness1.jpg
>
> Points X and Y are the 100 ohm points created by adding an
> electrical quarter wave of RG-213 coming out of the 25 ohm point
> where two dipoles are connected in parallel. But points X and Y are
> physically several feet apart. That being said, I think the coax
> that joins those points at the final parallel junction (to connect
> to the feedline) would have to be a multiple of an electrical half
> wavelength in order to repeat the 100 ohms at the other end (thus
> ending up with 50 ohms when you parallel them)?
>
> If so, I'm still confused on how they did this for both cardioid and
> bidirectional versions of this antenna with the harness inside the
> mast. Required physical lengths would be different due to the
> different dipole spacing from the mast. One can only work with
> physical lengths that "fit" inside the mast (I guess?) but this
> seems to clash with the electrical length required for impedance
> matching. It's a non-issue since I have no way of getting a new
> harness inside the mast. With an external harness I can just coil up
> or loop any extra length required for matching reasons. But I'd
> still like to understand how they did it. :-)
>
> In any case, the phasing harness on my 210C4 was done differently.
> It uses a combination of RG-213/U and RG-63B/U in the harness
> itself. Here is a sketch of it:
>
> http://www.n1bug.com/210C4harness.jpg
>
> Here, if we assume points X and Y are 100 ohms, point Z (where the
> feedline attaches) would fall somewhere between 50 ohms and 78 ohms,
> depending on the electrical length of the RG-63B/U coax connecting
> them. I'm trying to look up the velocity factor of RG-63B/U (part
> PE, part air dielectric), but having no luck so far.
>
> All of which seems completely different from the picture at
>
> http://forum.radioamateur.ca/index.php?topic=2245.0
>
> where there appears to be just a quarter wave section of coax off
> each side of point Z to the "T" for each pair of dipoles. I don't
> know how that was physically possible given the dipole spacing. I
> think we can safely assume I'm missing something here. :-)
>
> Paul N1BUG
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Verizon Tarif

[Walter H]

Every place I know of, all you need is a business line.

WalterH

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "rahwayflynn"  wrote:
>
> Anyone know if Verizon has a published tarif for repeater interconnects? 
> (Amateur Radio, not LMR)
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair dipole phasing harness

[N1BUG]

Hi Burt,

> Did I hear my name mentioned??? Maybe just ESP:-)

Yes you did, Great Sinclair dipole guru! :-)

I got the dipole drawing from your new web site. Thanks! That part 
I'm clear on, but still a bit confused on the phasing harness.

> I would suggest that you don't even consider putting the harnass inside
> the mast (unless Harold can tell us how Sinclair does it). Put the
> harness on the outside of the mast like the SRL210A4.

Uh, yeah, I hear that. I like the idea of the internal harness, but 
I just spent 3 hours getting the old harness *out* of the mast. I 
can't imagine how it was put *in* there.

> To combine the impedances on a 4 bay Sinclair array is simple. Divide
> the dipoles into pairs and parallel them. This gives 25 ohms. Then add
> an electrical quarter wave of 50 ohm coax (RG-213/U) to transform it to
> 100 ohms. Combine the matching coax from each pair in parallel to give
> 50 ohms. Then you can connect your feedline at any length from this
> latter 50 ohm connection.

Here is a crude drawing of what I think you are saying:

http://www.n1bug.com/dipoleharness1.jpg

Points X and Y are the 100 ohm points created by adding an 
electrical quarter wave of RG-213 coming out of the 25 ohm point 
where two dipoles are connected in parallel. But points X and Y are 
physically several feet apart. That being said, I think the coax 
that joins those points at the final parallel junction (to connect 
to the feedline) would have to be a multiple of an electrical half 
wavelength in order to repeat the 100 ohms at the other end (thus 
ending up with 50 ohms when you parallel them)?

If so, I'm still confused on how they did this for both cardioid and 
bidirectional versions of this antenna with the harness inside the 
mast. Required physical lengths would be different due to the 
different dipole spacing from the mast. One can only work with 
physical lengths that "fit" inside the mast (I guess?) but this 
seems to clash with the electrical length required for impedance 
matching. It's a non-issue since I have no way of getting a new 
harness inside the mast. With an external harness I can just coil up 
or loop any extra length required for matching reasons. But I'd 
still like to understand how they did it. :-)

In any case, the phasing harness on my 210C4 was done differently. 
It uses a combination of RG-213/U and RG-63B/U in the harness 
itself. Here is a sketch of it:

http://www.n1bug.com/210C4harness.jpg

Here, if we assume points X and Y are 100 ohms, point Z (where the 
feedline attaches) would fall somewhere between 50 ohms and 78 ohms, 
depending on the electrical length of the RG-63B/U coax connecting 
them. I'm trying to look up the velocity factor of RG-63B/U (part 
PE, part air dielectric), but having no luck so far.

All of which seems completely different from the picture at

http://forum.radioamateur.ca/index.php?topic=2245.0

where there appears to be just a quarter wave section of coax off 
each side of point Z to the "T" for each pair of dipoles. I don't 
know how that was physically possible given the dipole spacing. I 
think we can safely assume I'm missing something here. :-)

Paul N1BUG








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[john gleaton]

I'm not aware of many radios commercially available that will do that, but
it would be really nice to have that feature in more radios, or maybe I'm
just not too familiar with the cps of the newer radios.  It would be very
useful in wide area coverage systems.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Chuck Kelsey  wrote:

>
>
> Nope, wrong thing. I'm not talking about that kind of voting. I'm talking
> of a user radio that has the capability to vote between the repeater input
> and output and listen to the strongest signal. A form of talk-around, if you
> will.
>
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
>
>
>
>
-- 
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Brewton Alabama
jonglea...@gmail.com
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251-241-9203

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[Chris Curtis]

I'm sure chuck was referring to portable radios with voting capability
rather than the repeater "end" of things.

 

As for it being popular, voting portables are very popular here.  Not much
of a market share I'll grant you.  But that's the way it goes I guess.

 

Kb0wlf

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:29 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

 






Voting receivers are in heavy use in public safety, here in SB County all of
the agencies: Fire, both County and City, Sheriff, and City PD use GE
Voters, and we use them on our ham repeaters. There are hundreds if not more
voting systems around California, mostly older GE Types.

 

The old GE Signal to noise voters work great-Doug Hall (Hall Electronics)
copied them and was selling his version of them, don't know if he is still
doing so, and there are some never versions coming for commercial and public
safety service in the near future from companies you will recognize.

 

Andy W6AMS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:22 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

 

  

All the motorola xts/xtl series can do it with the correct firmware Tait
and simoco as well.

Greg

On Tue May 18th, 2010 4:22 AM PDT Chuck Kelsey wrote:

>I don't seem to find those models on Icom's website.
>
>I'm also assuming, due to lack of responses, that voted receive is not 
>popular here in the U.S. Only one other response that indicated Tait offers

>the feature, but I didn't go looking to confirm that.
>
>Chuck
>WB2EDV
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "kd8biw" mailto:kd8biw%40hotmail.com> >
>To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:03 AM
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive
>
>
>> Icom makes a few models with the RSSI Voting feature. Check out the 
>> IC-F621R and the IC-F6061 as a few examples.
>>
>> Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
>> DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
>> http://www.duplexcom.net
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>

 








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[Chuck Kelsey]

Nope, wrong thing. I'm not talking about that kind of voting. I'm talking of a 
user radio that has the capability to vote between the repeater input and 
output and listen to the strongest signal. A form of talk-around, if you will.

Chuck
WB2EDV


  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew Seybold 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:28 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive





  Voting receivers are in heavy use in public safety, here in SB County all of 
the agencies: Fire, both County and City, Sheriff, and City PD use GE Voters, 
and we use them on our ham repeaters. There are hundreds if not more voting 
systems around California, mostly older GE Types.

   

  The old GE Signal to noise voters work great-Doug Hall (Hall Electronics) 
copied them and was selling his version of them, don't know if he is still 
doing so, and there are some never versions coming for commercial and public 
safety service in the near future from companies you will recognize.

   

  Andy W6AMS

   

  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:22 AM
  To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

   



  All the motorola xts/xtl series can do it with the correct firmware Tait 
and simoco as well.

  Greg

  On Tue May 18th, 2010 4:22 AM PDT Chuck Kelsey wrote:

  >I don't seem to find those models on Icom's website.
  >
  >I'm also assuming, due to lack of responses, that voted receive is not 
  >popular here in the U.S. Only one other response that indicated Tait offers 
  >the feature, but I didn't go looking to confirm that.
  >
  >Chuck
  >WB2EDV
  >
  >
  >
  >- Original Message - 
  >From: "kd8biw" 
  >To: 
  >Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:03 AM
  >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive
  >
  >
  >> Icom makes a few models with the RSSI Voting feature. Check out the 
  >> IC-F621R and the IC-F6061 as a few examples.
  >>
  >> Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
  >> DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
  >> http://www.duplexcom.net
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> 
  >





  


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[Andrew Seybold]

Voting receivers are in heavy use in public safety, here in SB County
all of the agencies: Fire, both County and City, Sheriff, and City PD
use GE Voters, and we use them on our ham repeaters. There are hundreds
if not more voting systems around California, mostly older GE Types.

 

The old GE Signal to noise voters work great-Doug Hall (Hall
Electronics) copied them and was selling his version of them, don't know
if he is still doing so, and there are some never versions coming for
commercial and public safety service in the near future from companies
you will recognize.

 

Andy W6AMS

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:22 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

 

  

All the motorola xts/xtl series can do it with the correct firmware
Tait and simoco as well.

Greg

On Tue May 18th, 2010 4:22 AM PDT Chuck Kelsey wrote:

>I don't seem to find those models on Icom's website.
>
>I'm also assuming, due to lack of responses, that voted receive is not 
>popular here in the U.S. Only one other response that indicated Tait
offers 
>the feature, but I didn't go looking to confirm that.
>
>Chuck
>WB2EDV
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "kd8biw" mailto:kd8biw%40hotmail.com> >
>To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:03 AM
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive
>
>
>> Icom makes a few models with the RSSI Voting feature. Check out the 
>> IC-F621R and the IC-F6061 as a few examples.
>>
>> Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
>> DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
>> http://www.duplexcom.net
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[Greg]

All the motorola xts/xtl series can do it with the correct firmware Tait 
and simoco as well.

Greg

On Tue May 18th, 2010 4:22 AM PDT Chuck Kelsey wrote:

>I don't seem to find those models on Icom's website.
>
>I'm also assuming, due to lack of responses, that voted receive is not 
>popular here in the U.S. Only one other response that indicated Tait offers 
>the feature, but I didn't go looking to confirm that.
>
>Chuck
>WB2EDV
>
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "kd8biw" 
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:03 AM
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive
>
>
>> Icom makes a few models with the RSSI Voting feature.  Check out the 
>> IC-F621R and the IC-F6061 as a few examples.
>>
>> Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
>> DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
>> http://www.duplexcom.net
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive

[Chuck Kelsey]

I don't seem to find those models on Icom's website.

I'm also assuming, due to lack of responses, that voted receive is not 
popular here in the U.S. Only one other response that indicated Tait offers 
the feature, but I didn't go looking to confirm that.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "kd8biw" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:03 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Voted receive


> Icom makes a few models with the RSSI Voting feature.  Check out the 
> IC-F621R and the IC-F6061 as a few examples.
>
> Steve Denbow, KD8BIW
> DuplexCom of Ohio, LLC
> http://www.duplexcom.net
>
>
>
>