Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Well, I guess we can all lace up our skates because it would seem that Hell has, in fact, frozen over. All I can say is that this is a long time coming, and well overdue. On 12/16/06, Dave Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to be near AES Milwaukee tomarrow... so I'll stop in and get da books. I already have code tapes and code software I've been trying to learn code for a while, I just have a brick for a brain for learning it and on top of that, something always comes up to distract me from daily practice - I can never get a set schedual for free time a few weeks to learn it... something always comes up to change everything and screw me up. The dropping of the code requirement shouldn't be the end of the code for the people who were trying to learn. I say - keep going. Its a challenge almost like learning a new language. I'll still continue to try and ONE OF THESE DAYS ... I'll make my first cw contact. I just gotta get a few QSLs on my wall for CW comms to add to the FM DX, SSB and even AM work I've done. Dave / N9NLU On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. I just ordered the general study guide. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com]*On Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 10:25 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Ahhh, ok. Well, time to revise my Christmas list and get my nose in the general and extra class written element books. Thanks Dave / N9NLU www.kmcg.org ( SWAP SHOP - Service manuals - Standard, Maxon, Uniden, RCA etc, one lot - 6-7 postal mail bins -- $50 or offer / trade) On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined yet. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Gerald Pelnar wrote: I, for one, was sorely disappointed with how easy is was to pass the present extra class test. /mini-rant I agree that the higher level tests are too easy. I feel the same way about driver license tests, both written and on-the-road... /mini-rant off -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 11:25 PM 12/15/06, you wrote: Is it a little early for April Fools jokes? Will 10 meters become the next CB band? I will wait and see what happens here... 73 Mike - N7ZEF Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
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I know CW, and proved it by passing a 20 WPM code test over 10 years ago and by passing a 13 wpm code test nearly 20 years ago. I will vouch for LJ also knowing code. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:13:21 AM CST From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today But how many of those folks actually KNEW CW, and how many were using a program? Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who thinks CW is dead never listened to HF in the last couple months to the ARRL CW SS contest, the CQWW DX CW Contest, or to the recent 5A7A DXpedition to Libya. Somebody(s) are working lots of CW (the CW bands were FULL, day and night!) You had to see it to believe it - it was most encouraging to see. LJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Huh? I know plenty of Long Time hams who know the code and were licensed back when the test was at the FCC field office who still can't draw a block diagram of a radio. I know plenty of Extra class operators who cannot program a simple HT. They can pound it out at 20 wpm, but forget trying to enable a PL on the HT for the local repeater. Morse code and technical competency (or even common sense as shown by some of the responses in this thread) do NOT go hand in hand. The FCC just lifted an outdated road block for some people who do not posses the ability to learn a new language (just like not everyone has the ability to be a musician) but may be VERY technically component and deserving of the Amateur Service highest license class. Good for them (IMHO). How does dropping the code lead to more interference and the FCC auctioning off the bands? Let's move on- Our repeaters can still send a CW id, enjoy Please flame back directly, save the bandwidth for repeater building issues. And yes- I do know the Code. Tom W9SRV - Original Message From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:50:22 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 11:25 PM 12/15/06, you wrote: Is it a little early for April Fools jokes? Will 10 meters become the next CB band? I will wait and see what happens here... 73 Mike - N7ZEF Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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One time 35-40? years ago, I was applying for an electronic technician position in Pasadena California. One of the pre-employment test questions was to draw a block diagram of a receiver. As my hobby time back then was amateur radio and I had been studying the Motorola T44A6A 450-470 Mc (not MHz back then) receiver. So, I drew the block diagram of the T44A6A receiver - triple conversion, walking first and second IF's, 455 Kc third IF and AFC circuit. Yes, I did get the job. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:50 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
That's interesting, Neil. About 15 years ago I applied at one of the local MSS organizations (Day Wireless - then Clackamas Comm) and was given their test. It was a 3 page test with things like: How is a FET like a diode how is it like a vacuum tube? Draw a block diagram of a remote base. They told me I aced the test but the job was given to an internal person who transferred in from Spokane. Today we have amateur extras who can't figure out how to make PL/CTCSS/QC/CG work on their HT to access a repeater. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:35:54 PM CST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today One time 35-40? years ago, I was applying for an electronic technician position in Pasadena California. One of the pre-employment test questions was to draw a block diagram of a receiver. As my hobby time back then was amateur radio and I had been studying the Motorola T44A6A 450-470 Mc (not MHz back then) receiver. So, I drew the block diagram of the T44A6A receiver - triple conversion, walking first and second IF's, 455 Kc third IF and AFC circuit. Yes, I did get the job. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:50 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
I know when I passed the 13 wpm in 1961 (remember the old tape code players with a 800 Hz tone the FCC Offices used, this one in Houston, Texas) at the age of 17, I was on cloud nine. I was in a room of much older people trying the test. When I heard them send the 20 wpm test, I thought at that time it would take a miracle to pass that. I have to admit, I only used CW because I had to (had a Eico 720 running xtal controlled only)in the early day. Yes, on 15 and 40 meters which was quite a challenge. When I got out of college a number of years later, I finally had the funds to buy a ssb rig (Heathkit HW-100). I tried CW a few other times and then peaked at 20 wpm to pass the Extra and have not had a CW contact since then. I stupidly sold my Vibroplex Bug a number of years ago not knowing it was worth well more than what I paid for it in 1960. I knew that it was a matter of time before the CW requirement would go that away, but it still is re to use if it is warranted to make a QSO. Roger W5RD ex-AJ5L, K5JAJ, KN5JAJ Licensed in spring 1961 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today One time 35-40? years ago, I was applying for an electronic technician position in Pasadena California. One of the pre-employment test questions was to draw a block diagram of a receiver. As my hobby time back then was amateur radio and I had been studying the Motorola T44A6A 450-470 Mc (not MHz back then) receiver. So, I drew the block diagram of the T44A6A receiver - triple conversion, walking first and second IF's, 455 Kc third IF and AFC circuit. Yes, I did get the job. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:50 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV
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Hey Ken, I didn't know you are 'that' old. Back then you may have been a teenager ... Neil - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:08 pm Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Interestingly, I applied for the same job and was asked to draw a block diagram of Neil. I didn't get the job Ken At 11:21 AM 12/16/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One time 35-40? years ago, I was applying for an electronic technician position in Pasadena California. One of the pre-employment test questions was to draw a block diagram of a receiver. As my hobby time back then was amateur radio and I had been studying the Motorola T44A6A 450-470 Mc (not MHz back then) receiver. So, I drew the block diagram of the T44A6A receiver - triple conversion, walking first and second IF's, 455 Kc third IF and AFC circuit. Yes, I did get the job. Neil - WA6KLA - Original Message - From: Glenn Little WB4UIV mailto:glennmaillist%40bellsouth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:50 am Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV --- --- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
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Paper tape machines! Man, that's what I first learned my Morse Code with. Wasn't that McCoy ? I remember his name popping up a lot back then. ( Dinosaurs still roamed the earth back then). Well, I'm glad I learned it, its been nothing but a source of joy to me. Since I first got my novice call sign, WN8HJX, I only have one microphone! The rest, keys and an old bug. I think I'll try and share this joy with others in my area by putting on Morse Code lessons again. Rich K8JX Why grab possessions like thieves, or divide them like socialists, when you can ignore them like wise men? Natalie Clifford Barney /\___/\ ^ ^ )_o_(I love Samoyed Rescue- Save a Sammy !! U Visit http://www.foreverhomesamoyed.org http://www.foreverhomesamoyed.org for a nice hobby, http://www.w8usa.org
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At 12:11 PM 12/16/2006, you wrote: Hey Ken, I didn't know you are 'that' old. Back then you may have been a teenager ... ---Don't forget I was first licensed in 1967 at the ripe old age of 13 - back then you could both a Novice and Tech license simultaneously (which I did). And I was involved with repeaters since 1969, when I helped with the first 34/94 machine in Upper Darby, PA. (thanks to Gene K3DSM). But I still ain't as old as you! snicker Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
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Nah, I don't agree with that opinion. It is true that when the FCC implemented incentive licensing many years ago, a lot of hams were upset. They needed to increase their knowledge base (through upgrading), to obtain more privileges in the ham radio spectrum. Before that was done, the hams were complacent to sit on their licenses, use the frequencies assigned to them, and not learn any additional electronic knowledge unless they wanted to. I happen to know of a ham, now in his 70's, who is still very upset of this happening to him. On the other side of the coin, the FCC, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the so called technical pool needed revamping. Their vision, so to speak, was to make average Joe ham a deal. Obtain more knowledge, get more privileges. If you look at the people in the technical field of electronics and RF, you will find that there are many hams out there because of that ruling. I'm not saying that ham radio produces more electronic engineers and technicians; what I mean by that is someone who is interested in ham radio or electronics might want to pursue a formal education in the electronics industry. It goes hand in hand. I would truly doubt if the FCC would abolish what little is left of the ham radio spectrum to business interests. It just doesn't make any sense. Why fool around with the ham community when the technical pool keeps happening? Agreed, ham radio is a small community. But when you consider and factor in what it does in the big picture of communications and RF, I highly doubt that the government would take away the amateur service. Besides, the ARRL would have a field day if this would ever happen. Just my $0.02 . . .. . Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Glenn Little WB4UIV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today It is now just a matter of time. The problems with hams not understanding what they are doing will increase. Interference will increase. Commercial interests will petition the FCC for the frequencies. The hams will not be able to defend their desire to keep the frequencies. Now the ham frequencies will be sold to the highest bidder. The handwriting is on the wall. Less that 10% of the newly licensed hams can draw a simple block diagram of the radio that they use. Just my opinion, based on my observations. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 11:25 PM 12/15/06, you wrote: Is it a little early for April Fools jokes? Will 10 meters become the next CB band? I will wait and see what happens here... 73 Mike - N7ZEF Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links !DSPAM:1016,4584407e21785414056337!
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Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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And the start of another. It is entirely possible to *increase* the number of CW using hams because of this. It's possible to snare folks into the hobby, and then, just when they think they're secure in the lack of a need to ever learn code-- ...They find something that uses it, and the spark of a reason as to why it might be a good idea to learn it ignites... The rest of this is up to us, however. We need to welcome these changes and then find ways to hook them onto CW and all the other wonderful modes we have. It IS possible. All is takes is imagination on our parts. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82 On Friday 15 December 2006 21:46, Bob M. wrote: Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links
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And at the same time, we can train them to lubricate the dynamotors that provide B+ to their rigs? (HT to you G's) Gentlemen, it is time to move on. Even repeaters have voice ID nowadays. 73 Nigel, ve3id/g4ajq STeve Andre' wrote: And the start of another. It is entirely possible to *increase* the number of CW using hams because of this. It's possible to snare folks into the hobby, and then, just when they think they're secure in the lack of a need to ever learn code-- ...They find something that uses it, and the spark of a reason as to why it might be a good idea to learn it ignites... The rest of this is up to us, however. We need to welcome these changes and then find ways to hook them onto CW and all the other wonderful modes we have. It IS possible. All is takes is imagination on our parts. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82 On Friday 15 December 2006 21:46, Bob M. wrote: Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:skyislandpage%40yahoo.com wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Nigel Johnson MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU http://nigel.homelinux.net http://va3mcu.ham-radio-op.net You can reach me by voice on Skype: TILBURY2591 If time travel ever will be possible, it already is. Ask me again yesterday This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by any number of system administrators along the way.
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Is it a little early for April Fools jokes? Will 10 meters become the next CB band? I will wait and see what happens here... 73 Mike - N7ZEF Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links
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Thats what I was wondering.. How long before it becomes socially acceptable to have a roger beep on 10m. There are droves of these mindless twits that are just waiting to bring thier cheap export cb junk radios and amps up to 10... But I will maintain a wait and see attitude.. Actually, Guys, we can do something about this... We do have some power.. The VEC's do accept submissions for the question pools.. Maybe a group could come together and put together the pool from hell. Mike Reed wrote: Is it a little early for April Fools jokes? Will 10 meters become the next CB band? I will wait and see what happens here... 73 Mike - N7ZEF Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:skyislandpage%40yahoo.com wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jay Urish CCNANetwork Engineer http://jay.unixwolf.net 972.691.0125972.965.6229
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- Original Message - From: Jay Urish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today The VEC's do accept submissions for the question pools.. Maybe a group could come together and put together the pool from hell. I, for one, was sorely disappointed with how easy is was to pass the present extra class test. Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF McPherson, Ks
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Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
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Yes, they do - and more than ever, they seem to have conversations with themselves - more than they used to even when ACC made Repeater controllers. Good evening. Over looking the valley from Eleven hundred feet this is the WZ7WXYZ Repeater. The time is eight fifty five on twelve twenty. A R E S Net tonight at seven o'clock P M. Club meeting Friday night at seven thirty P M. The temperature is forty six degrees. The wind is twenty two miles an hour. And that's just the typical initial ID (after first key-up after a no-activity period.) Wait until it's time for any pending IDs and any 10-minute IDs for more important information that the users are breathlessly waiting to hear. Give me a quick repeater callsign (don't even need /R or /RPT any more) in 20WPM CW at a low level that you can talk over, if you need to. ANY day... Anyone who thinks CW is dead never listened to HF in the last couple months to the ARRL CW SS contest, the CQWW DX CW Contest, or to the recent 5A7A DXpedition to Libya. Somebody(s) are working lots of CW (the CW bands were FULL, day and night!) You had to see it to believe it - it was most encouraging to see. LJ -Original Message- From: VE3ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 15, 2006 7:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today And at the same time, we can train them to lubricate the dynamotors that provide B+ to their rigs? (HT to you G's) Gentlemen, it is time to move on. Even repeaters have voice ID nowadays. 73 Nigel, ve3id/g4ajq STeve Andre' wrote: And the start of another. It is entirely possible to *increase* the number of CW using hams because of this. It's possible to snare folks into the hobby, and then, just when they think they're secure in the lack of a need to ever learn code-- ...They find something that uses it, and the spark of a reason as to why it might be a good idea to learn it ignites... The rest of this is up to us, however. We need to welcome these changes and then find ways to hook them onto CW and all the other wonderful modes we have. It IS possible. All is takes is imagination on our parts. --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en82 On Friday 15 December 2006 21:46, Bob M. wrote: Oh well, the end of an era. Boo-Hiss. Bob M. == --- Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:skyislandpage%40yahoo.com wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf Techs get tech+ privs, code test gone for general and extra. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Nigel Johnson MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU http://nigel.homelinux.net http://va3mcu.ham-radio-op.net You can reach me by voice on Skype: TILBURY2591 If time travel ever will be possible, it already is. Ask me again yesterday This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by any number of system administrators along the way.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
--- Dave Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date? New rules will become effective 30 days after publication in the federal register. This could take several weeks. Best guess is about 60 days from now. Joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined yet. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Schmidt Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Ahhh, ok. Well, time to revise my Christmas list and get my nose in the general and extra class written element books. Thanks Dave / N9NLU www.kmcg.org ( SWAP SHOP - Service manuals - Standard, Maxon, Uniden, RCA etc, one lot - 6-7 postal mail bins -- $50 or offer / trade) On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined yet. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com]*On Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
Me too. I just ordered the general study guide. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Schmidt Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Ahhh, ok. Well, time to revise my Christmas list and get my nose in the general and extra class written element books. Thanks Dave / N9NLU www.kmcg.org ( SWAP SHOP - Service manuals - Standard, Maxon, Uniden, RCA etc, one lot - 6-7 postal mail bins -- $50 or offer / trade) On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined yet. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Schmidt Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
I'm going to be near AES Milwaukee tomarrow... so I'll stop in and get da books. I already have code tapes and code software I've been trying to learn code for a while, I just have a brick for a brain for learning it and on top of that, something always comes up to distract me from daily practice - I can never get a set schedual for free time a few weeks to learn it... something always comes up to change everything and screw me up. The dropping of the code requirement shouldn't be the end of the code for the people who were trying to learn. I say - keep going. Its a challenge almost like learning a new language. I'll still continue to try and ONE OF THESE DAYS ... I'll make my first cw contact. I just gotta get a few QSLs on my wall for CW comms to add to the FM DX, SSB and even AM work I've done. Dave / N9NLU On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. I just ordered the general study guide. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com]*On Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 10:25 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Ahhh, ok. Well, time to revise my Christmas list and get my nose in the general and extra class written element books. Thanks Dave / N9NLU www.kmcg.org ( SWAP SHOP - Service manuals - Standard, Maxon, Uniden, RCA etc, one lot - 6-7 postal mail bins -- $50 or offer / trade) On 12/16/06, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My interpretation is that it will be effective 30 days after it is published in the federal register, so the date hasn't been determined yet. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Dave Schmidt *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2006 9:56 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today Question about this order is it effective imidiately that the code is no longer required for new licencing and the licenced techs (w/o code) are now equal to tech + (with code) ? OR is there an effective on after date?
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues RO dropping code requirement today
But how many of those folks actually KNEW CW, and how many were using a program? Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who thinks CW is dead never listened to HF in the last couple months to the ARRL CW SS contest, the CQWW DX CW Contest, or to the recent 5A7A DXpedition to Libya. Somebody(s) are working lots of CW (the CW bands were FULL, day and night!) You had to see it to believe it - it was most encouraging to see. LJ
