[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-28 Thread n3dab








Extend the radials not less than 1/4 wave from the mast stub to the tip.  And 
bend them down at about a 30 degree angle.  Lone
ger radials probably wouldn't hurt (in 1/4 wave increments) but provides more 
wind load and aesthectic challenges.  $ equally space might be slightly better 
than3 but i doubt you would notice the difference.

Doug   N3DAB  


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... 
wrote:

 I am pretty sure HD has aluminum strips that will work just fine.  Should I 
 make the radials 1/4 wave , or longer?
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  Forgot to mention if you can't find alum. for the ground plane elements at 
  the local surpus yard or hardware store (HD or Lowes) see if you can find 
  the city or county sign shop (the people who maintain the stop, yield and 
  directional signs) as the may have pulls  or damaged signs you can talk 
  them out of.  These are fairly heavy gage but usually soft alum. alloy and 
  can be easily cut into strips with a carbide tipped blade on a small table 
  saw with out any damage to the saw.  Just make sure you put the alum. side 
  against the metal mast stub as the sign side is a decal and you may not get 
  the bonding you want for the radials.  
  
  Doug  N3DAB
  
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
  wrote:
  
   Good point, much easier to use a couple of clamps, and I just happen to 
   have some stainless steel clamps here in the garage!  Thanks for the 
   advice.
   
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
   
Do your self a big favor and don't drill any holes.  Use 1 or 2 large 
stainless steel hose clamps, slip 3 or 4 aluminum radials up between 
the clamp and metal antenna base (similar to what you see in the 
picture for the TDD-6082).  That is the way the Motorola and Station 
Master base station radials are atached.  Extend the aluminum radial 
metal about 1 above the top clamp, tighten the clamps and then fold 
the 1 projection over to cover the SS clamp band.  That way if the 
clamp loosens up a bit the radials wont fall off.

Doug   N3DAB  


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen 
stevegebhard@ wrote:

 Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks 
 like the general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not 
 even bother trying the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials 
 though, but with this antenna I could even drill some holes in the 
 collar that screws over the N connector and install radials that way. 
  I bet that will help with the radiation pattern a bit.  Thanks for 
 all the assitance, as always, this is an awesome group.  73;s
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
 wrote:
 
  You described mine like you were looking at it.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: wb6dgn tallinson2@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
  antenna 
  made by Motorola
  
  
   Hi Gerald and the group,
   I think I've got one of these antennas too.
   It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and 
   about an inch 
   in diameter at the base,
   coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 
   1-5/16 inch 
   diameter.
   A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N 
   female 
   connector.
   The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over 
   it. 
   There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no 
   longer 
   readable now.
   There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the 
   numbers 
   are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
   It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
   I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
   if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the 
   channels were 
   in the 453/458 range
   with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine 
   on the 
   ham band.
   The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
   scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
   Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know 
   where to 
   look,
   I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I 
   can find 
   it.
   Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco 
   catalog 
   that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
   Tom DGN
  
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar 
   wd0fyf@ 
   wrote

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-28 Thread wd8chl
gebhardstephen wrote:
 I am pretty sure HD has aluminum strips that will work just fine.
 Should I make the radials 1/4 wave , or longer?
 

About 10% longer.


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-28 Thread wb6dgn
Looks like the general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even 
bother trying the Diamond antenna.

The Diamond is not even in the same class as this antenna in terms of 
construction and quality.  
There is a reason this antenna's list price was in the $500 range and the 
Diamond is little more than $100.
I agree with the other poster, don't drill.  
The radials mounted about an inch down from the top of the aluminum part, 
not at the bottom where the N connector is.  Get yourself some 1/2 inch wide, 
0.100 soft aluminum
 (that's what they used on mine) and bend in three pieces to make the radials.  
Maybe one of the others who is a better draftsman than I will make a sketch for 
you.
  They are held onto the base by three (probably #8) machine screws in clamp 
fashion.
This antenna is well worth the effort to get it going.
Good Luck.
Tom DGN

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... 
wrote:

 Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks like the 
 general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even bother trying 
 the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials though, but with this antenna 
 I could even drill some holes in the collar that screws over the N connector 
 and install radials that way.  I bet that will help with the radiation 
 pattern a bit.  Thanks for all the assitance, as always, this is an awesome 
 group.  73;s
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ wrote:
 
  You described mine like you were looking at it.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: wb6dgn tallinson2@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
  made by Motorola
  
  
   Hi Gerald and the group,
   I think I've got one of these antennas too.
   It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an 
   inch 
   in diameter at the base,
   coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 inch 
   diameter.
   A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female 
   connector.
   The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it. 
   There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer 
   readable now.
   There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the numbers 
   are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
   It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
   I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
   if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels 
   were 
   in the 453/458 range
   with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on the 
   ham band.
   The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
   scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
   Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where to 
   look,
   I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can find 
   it.
   Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco catalog 
   that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
   Tom DGN
  
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
   wrote:
  
   The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. Small 
   bolt
   fasten them together around the base.
  
   Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
   McPherson, Ks
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
   antenna
   made by Motorola
  
  
Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does
not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them 
either.
I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond
F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, 
plus
it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small 
investment
would yield better coverage.
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@
wrote:
   
I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I
didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used 
it
temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR
wasn't
bad and worked just fine.
   
Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks
   
   
- Original Message - 
From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater
antenna
made by Motorola
   
   
 That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured 
 has
 ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-28 Thread gebhardstephen
I am taking everyone's advice on this topic.  I agree the antenna I am using 
now is superior to Diamond, as you said, hence the expensive list price.  It 
does a very good job as it is, and I am sure it will do better after the ground 
radials are installed.  I got the clamps and aluminum strips today, provideing 
it's not windy tomorrow, that is the project!  Thanks again to everyone for 
assiting.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb6dgn tallins...@... wrote:

 Looks like the general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not 
 even bother trying the Diamond antenna.
 
 The Diamond is not even in the same class as this antenna in terms of 
 construction and quality.  
 There is a reason this antenna's list price was in the $500 range and the 
 Diamond is little more than $100.
 I agree with the other poster, don't drill.  
 The radials mounted about an inch down from the top of the aluminum part, 
 not at the bottom where the N connector is.  Get yourself some 1/2 inch 
 wide, 0.100 soft aluminum
  (that's what they used on mine) and bend in three pieces to make the 
 radials.  
 Maybe one of the others who is a better draftsman than I will make a sketch 
 for you.
   They are held onto the base by three (probably #8) machine screws in clamp 
 fashion.
 This antenna is well worth the effort to get it going.
 Good Luck.
 Tom DGN
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
 wrote:
 
  Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks like 
  the general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even bother 
  trying the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials though, but with this 
  antenna I could even drill some holes in the collar that screws over the N 
  connector and install radials that way.  I bet that will help with the 
  radiation pattern a bit.  Thanks for all the assitance, as always, this is 
  an awesome group.  73;s
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ wrote:
  
   You described mine like you were looking at it.
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: wb6dgn tallinson2@
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
   antenna 
   made by Motorola
   
   
Hi Gerald and the group,
I think I've got one of these antennas too.
It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an 
inch 
in diameter at the base,
coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 inch 
diameter.
A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female 
connector.
The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it. 
There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer 
readable now.
There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the 
numbers 
are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels 
were 
in the 453/458 range
with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on 
the 
ham band.
The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where to 
look,
I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can 
find 
it.
Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco 
catalog 
that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
Tom DGN
   
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
wrote:
   
The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. 
Small 
bolt
fasten them together around the base.
   
Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks
   
- Original Message - 
From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
antenna
made by Motorola
   
   
 Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have 
 does
 not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them 
 either.
 I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond
 F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using 
 now, 
 plus
 it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small 
 investment
 would yield better coverage.

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@
 wrote:

 I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long 
 (I
 didn't measure it) and has

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread gebhardstephen
That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured has ground 
radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this is as far as I can 
go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right antenna for a ham 
repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said before, the SWR is OK, but I 
wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, and I am not getting the full 
gain that I should.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote:

 Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The Hi-Gain 
 specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA lengths for the 
 different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 22'. Unless there 
 is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion of the label or you 
 can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's just a guess at this point.
 
 Doug   N3DAB
 
 
 -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ wrote:
 
  It could be a TDD-6082
  
  See here:
  
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
  
   
  
  Bill - W6CBS
  
   
  
_  
  
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
  Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna
  made by Motorola
  
   
  
  Mark
  
  My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
  long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna. 
  
  Doug N3DAB
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:
  
   I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if
  I
   Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which
   are we talking about?
   
   Mark - N9WYS
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
   
   Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB
   Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you
   in on that.
   
   Doug N3DAB
   
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   wrote:
   
Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you
   know who made this for Motorola?

--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:

 It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it
   would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   SWR in
   the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having.
 
 Doug N3DAB
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   wrote:
   
   Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot
   find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last
   of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and
   unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on
   a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length,
   with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some
   infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all,
   and have a great day!
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread Gerald Pelnar
I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I 
didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used it 
temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR wasn't 
bad and worked just fine.

Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks


- Original Message - 
From: gebhardstephen stevegebh...@cox.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
made by Motorola


 That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured has 
 ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this is as 
 far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right 
 antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said before, 
 the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, and I 
 am not getting the full gain that I should.

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote:

 Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The 
 Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA lengths 
 for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 22'. 
 Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion of 
 the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's just a 
 guess at this point.

 Doug   N3DAB


 -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ wrote:
 
  It could be a TDD-6082
 
  See here:
 
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
 
 
 
  Bill - W6CBS
 
 
 
_
 
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
  Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
  antenna
  made by Motorola
 
 
 
  Mark
 
  My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
  long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile 
  antenna.
 
  Doug N3DAB
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:
  
   I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna 
   but if
  I
   Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. 
   Which
   are we talking about?
  
   Mark - N9WYS
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
  
   Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or 
   possibly DB
   Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably 
   fill you
   in on that.
  
   Doug N3DAB
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   wrote:
   
Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do 
you
   know who made this for Motorola?
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:

 It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly 
 it
   would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   
   SWR in
   the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider 
   having.

 Doug N3DAB
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   wrote:
  
   Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I 
   cannot
   find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The 
   last
   of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off 
   and
   unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any 
   information on
   a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in 
   length,
   with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have 
   some
   infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to 
   all,
   and have a great day!
  
 





 



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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread gebhardstephen
Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does not 
have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them either.  I was 
contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond F718A, it has 
better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, plus it is designed for 
the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small investment would yield better 
coverage.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0...@... wrote:

 I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I 
 didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used it 
 temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR wasn't 
 bad and worked just fine.
 
 Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
 McPherson, Ks
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: gebhardstephen stevegebh...@...
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
 made by Motorola
 
 
  That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured has 
  ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this is as 
  far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right 
  antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said before, 
  the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, and I 
  am not getting the full gain that I should.
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The 
  Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA lengths 
  for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 22'. 
  Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion of 
  the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's just a 
  guess at this point.
 
  Doug   N3DAB
 
 
  -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ wrote:
  
   It could be a TDD-6082
  
   See here:
  
   http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
  
  
  
   Bill - W6CBS
  
  
  
 _
  
   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
   Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
   antenna
   made by Motorola
  
  
  
   Mark
  
   My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
   long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile 
   antenna.
  
   Doug N3DAB
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:
   
I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna 
but if
   I
Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. 
Which
are we talking about?
   
Mark - N9WYS
   
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
   
Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or 
possibly DB
Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably 
fill you
in on that.
   
Doug N3DAB
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
wrote:

 Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do 
 you
know who made this for Motorola?

 --- In Repeater-Builder@ 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly 
  it
would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   
SWR in
the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider 
having.
 
  Doug N3DAB
--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
wrote:
   
Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I 
cannot
find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The 
last
of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off 
and
unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any 
information on
a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in 
length,
with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have 
some
infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to 
all,
and have a great day!
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread n3dab
Sorry I was asleep at the keyboard last night. TDE-6082A is 8 feet long OA per 
moto. specs.  Photo of the TDD  is generic and the lower gain version may not 
have had radials.  However some alum. sheet strips projecting about 1/4 wave 
off the base and secured with a SS hose clamp will do the trick if you want to 
go to the trouble.  

Doug  N3DAB  

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... 
wrote:

 Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does not 
 have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them either.  I was 
 contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond F718A, it has 
 better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, plus it is designed 
 for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small investment would yield 
 better coverage.
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ wrote:
 
  I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I 
  didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used it 
  temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR wasn't 
  bad and worked just fine.
  
  Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
  McPherson, Ks
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
  made by Motorola
  
  
   That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured has 
   ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this is as 
   far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right 
   antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said before, 
   the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, and I 
   am not getting the full gain that I should.
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The 
   Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA lengths 
   for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 22'. 
   Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion of 
   the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's just 
   a 
   guess at this point.
  
   Doug   N3DAB
  
  
   -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ wrote:
   
It could be a TDD-6082
   
See here:
   
http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
   
   
   
Bill - W6CBS
   
   
   
  _
   
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
antenna
made by Motorola
   
   
   
Mark
   
My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile 
antenna.
   
Doug N3DAB
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:

 I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna 
 but if
I
 Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. 
 Which
 are we talking about?

 Mark - N9WYS

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab

 Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or 
 possibly DB
 Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably 
 fill you
 in on that.

 Doug N3DAB

 --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:
 
  Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do 
  you
 know who made this for Motorola?
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@ 
  mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working 
   properly 
   it
 would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   
 SWR in
 the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider 
 having.
  
   Doug N3DAB
 --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:

 Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I 
 cannot
 find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. 
 The 
 last
 of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off 
 and
 unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread wd8chl
gebhardstephen wrote:
 Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have
 does not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install
 them either.  I was contemplating changing the antenna to something
 like a Diamond F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one
 I am using now, plus it is designed for the frequency I am on, I
 wonder if the small investment would yield better coverage.

Look again-the Diamond antennas are rated for dBi, not dBd. In theory, 
more than a 2dB difference, in practice for these at least, more like 
3-5 dB.
I'd stick wit the 6082. Worst case, do my foil mod on the R-B 
website-it's been done to that style UHF antenna succesfully.

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0...@...
 wrote:
 I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long
 (I didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I
 used it temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for
 testing. SWR wasn't bad and worked just fine.
 
 Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF McPherson, Ks



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread gebhardstephen
I have heard that Diamond's gain ratings were a bit inflated, so maybe I'll 
just stick with what I have until I can afford a Super Station Master!

I would like to look at that mod, could you send along a link to it?  Thanks.

--- In repeater-buil...@yahoogroudps.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote:

 gebhardstephen wrote:
  Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have
  does not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install
  them either.  I was contemplating changing the antenna to something
  like a Diamond F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one
  I am using now, plus it is designed for the frequency I am on, I
  wonder if the small investment would yield better coverage.
 
 Look again-the Diamond antennas are rated for dBi, not dBd. In theory, 
 more than a 2dB difference, in practice for these at least, more like 
 3-5 dB.
 I'd stick wit the 6082. Worst case, do my foil mod on the R-B 
 website-it's been done to that style UHF antenna succesfully.
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@
  wrote:
  I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long
  (I didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I
  used it temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for
  testing. SWR wasn't bad and worked just fine.
  
  Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF McPherson, Ks





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread gebhardstephen
I know all about falling asleep at the keyboard!  My version might be the lower 
gain one.  I think I'll try adding ground radials first and see what happens, 
definetly the cheaper way to go at this point.  Thanks for the information.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote:

 Sorry I was asleep at the keyboard last night. TDE-6082A is 8 feet long OA 
 per moto. specs.  Photo of the TDD  is generic and the lower gain version may 
 not have had radials.  However some alum. sheet strips projecting about 1/4 
 wave off the base and secured with a SS hose clamp will do the trick if you 
 want to go to the trouble.  
 
 Doug  N3DAB  
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
 wrote:
 
  Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does not 
  have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them either.  I 
  was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond F718A, 
  it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, plus it is 
  designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small investment would 
  yield better coverage.
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ wrote:
  
   I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I 
   didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used it 
   temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR 
   wasn't 
   bad and worked just fine.
   
   Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
   McPherson, Ks
   
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
   antenna 
   made by Motorola
   
   
That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured has 
ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this is 
as 
far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right 
antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said before, 
the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, and 
I 
am not getting the full gain that I should.
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
   
Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The 
Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA 
lengths 
for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 
22'. 
Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion 
of 
the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's 
just a 
guess at this point.
   
Doug   N3DAB
   
   
-- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ wrote:

 It could be a TDD-6082

 See here:

 http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf



 Bill - W6CBS



   _

 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
 antenna
 made by Motorola



 Mark

 My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
 long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile 
 antenna.

 Doug N3DAB

 --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:
 
  I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna 
  but if
 I
  Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile 
  antenna. 
  Which
  are we talking about?
 
  Mark - N9WYS
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
 
  Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or 
  possibly DB
  Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably 
  fill you
  in on that.
 
  Doug N3DAB
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@ 
  mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  wrote:
  
   Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! 
   Do 
   you
  know who made this for Motorola?
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ 
   mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
   
It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working 
properly 
it
  would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in  
   
  SWR in
  the 440 band but probably more then you would want

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread ka1jfy
There was at least one version of a fiberglass 'ball bat' that had the ground 
radials simply clamped to the bottom ring of the antenna with a variation of a 
hose clamp.

WalterH

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... 
wrote:

 Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does not 
 have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them either.

SNIP



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread Gerald Pelnar
The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. Small bolt 
fasten them together around the base.

Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks

- Original Message - 
From: gebhardstephen stevegebh...@cox.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
made by Motorola


 Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does 
 not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them either. 
 I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond 
 F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, plus 
 it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small investment 
 would yield better coverage.

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0...@... 
 wrote:

 I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I
 didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used it
 temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR 
 wasn't
 bad and worked just fine.

 Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
 McPherson, Ks


 - Original Message - 
 From: gebhardstephen stevegebh...@...
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
 antenna
 made by Motorola


  That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured has
  ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this is 
  as
  far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right
  antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said before,
  the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, and 
  I
  am not getting the full gain that I should.
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The
  Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA 
  lengths
  for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 
  22'.
  Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion 
  of
  the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's 
  just a
  guess at this point.
 
  Doug   N3DAB
 
 
  -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ wrote:
  
   It could be a TDD-6082
  
   See here:
  
   http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
  
  
  
   Bill - W6CBS
  
  
  
 _
  
   From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
   Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater
   antenna
   made by Motorola
  
  
  
   Mark
  
   My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
   long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile
   antenna.
  
   Doug N3DAB
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:
   
I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna
but if
   I
Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile 
antenna.
Which
are we talking about?
   
Mark - N9WYS
   
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
   
Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or
possibly DB
Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably
fill you
in on that.
   
Doug N3DAB
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
wrote:

 Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! 
 Do
 you
know who made this for Motorola?

 --- In Repeater-Builder@
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working 
  properly
  it
would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in  
 
SWR in
the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider
having.
 
  Doug N3DAB
--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
   yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
wrote:
   
Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I
cannot
find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. 
The
last
of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off
and
unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any
information on
a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in
length,
with a N connector, and no ground

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread wb6dgn
Hi Gerald and the group,
I think I've got one of these antennas too.  
It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an inch in 
diameter at the base,
coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 inch 
diameter.  
A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female connector. 
 
The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it.  There was 
probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer readable now.  
There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the numbers are 
no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.  
It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.  
I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but, 
if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels were in 
the 453/458 range 
with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on the ham 
band.  
The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to scrounge; if 
anyone has spares, let me know.  
Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where to look, 
I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can find it.  
Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco catalog that 
suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
Tom DGN


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0...@... wrote:

 The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. Small bolt 
 fasten them together around the base.
 
 Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
 McPherson, Ks
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: gebhardstephen stevegebh...@...
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
 made by Motorola
 
 
  Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does 
  not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them either. 
  I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond 
  F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, plus 
  it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small investment 
  would yield better coverage.
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
  wrote:
 
  I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I
  didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used it
  temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR 
  wasn't
  bad and worked just fine.
 
  Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
  McPherson, Ks
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
  antenna
  made by Motorola
 
 
   That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured has
   ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this is 
   as
   far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right
   antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said before,
   the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, and 
   I
   am not getting the full gain that I should.
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The
   Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA 
   lengths
   for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 
   22'.
   Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion 
   of
   the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's 
   just a
   guess at this point.
  
   Doug   N3DAB
  
  
   -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ wrote:
   
It could be a TDD-6082
   
See here:
   
http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
   
   
   
Bill - W6CBS
   
   
   
  _
   
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater
antenna
made by Motorola
   
   
   
Mark
   
My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile
antenna.
   
Doug N3DAB
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:

 I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna
 but if
I
 Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile 
 antenna.
 Which
 are we talking about?

 Mark - N9WYS

 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@ 
 mailto:Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread Gerald Pelnar
You described mine like you were looking at it.

- Original Message - 
From: wb6dgn tallins...@yahoo.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
made by Motorola


 Hi Gerald and the group,
 I think I've got one of these antennas too.
 It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an inch 
 in diameter at the base,
 coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 inch 
 diameter.
 A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female 
 connector.
 The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it. 
 There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer 
 readable now.
 There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the numbers 
 are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
 It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
 I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
 if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels were 
 in the 453/458 range
 with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on the 
 ham band.
 The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
 scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
 Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where to 
 look,
 I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can find 
 it.
 Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco catalog 
 that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
 Tom DGN


 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0...@... 
 wrote:

 The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. Small 
 bolt
 fasten them together around the base.

 Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
 McPherson, Ks

 - Original Message - 
 From: gebhardstephen stevegebh...@...
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
 antenna
 made by Motorola


  Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does
  not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them 
  either.
  I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond
  F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, 
  plus
  it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small 
  investment
  would yield better coverage.
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@
  wrote:
 
  I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I
  didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used 
  it
  temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR
  wasn't
  bad and worked just fine.
 
  Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
  McPherson, Ks
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater
  antenna
  made by Motorola
 
 
   That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured 
   has
   ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this 
   is
   as
   far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right
   antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said 
   before,
   the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, 
   and
   I
   am not getting the full gain that I should.
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'. 
   The
   Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA
   lengths
   for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about
   22'.
   Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining 
   portion
   of
   the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's
   just a
   guess at this point.
  
   Doug   N3DAB
  
  
   -- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ 
   wrote:
   
It could be a TDD-6082
   
See here:
   
http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
   
   
   
Bill - W6CBS
   
   
   
  _
   
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF 
repeater
antenna
made by Motorola
   
   
   
Mark
   
My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile
antenna.
   
Doug N3DAB
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@ 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread gebhardstephen
Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks like the 
general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even bother trying 
the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials though, but with this antenna I 
could even drill some holes in the collar that screws over the N connector and 
install radials that way.  I bet that will help with the radiation pattern a 
bit.  Thanks for all the assitance, as always, this is an awesome group.  73;s

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0...@... wrote:

 You described mine like you were looking at it.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: wb6dgn tallins...@...
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
 made by Motorola
 
 
  Hi Gerald and the group,
  I think I've got one of these antennas too.
  It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an inch 
  in diameter at the base,
  coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 inch 
  diameter.
  A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female 
  connector.
  The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it. 
  There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer 
  readable now.
  There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the numbers 
  are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
  It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
  I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
  if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels were 
  in the 453/458 range
  with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on the 
  ham band.
  The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
  scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
  Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where to 
  look,
  I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can find 
  it.
  Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco catalog 
  that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
  Tom DGN
 
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
  wrote:
 
  The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. Small 
  bolt
  fasten them together around the base.
 
  Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
  McPherson, Ks
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
  antenna
  made by Motorola
 
 
   Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does
   not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them 
   either.
   I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond
   F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, 
   plus
   it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small 
   investment
   would yield better coverage.
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@
   wrote:
  
   I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I
   didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used 
   it
   temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR
   wasn't
   bad and worked just fine.
  
   Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
   McPherson, Ks
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater
   antenna
   made by Motorola
  
  
That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured 
has
ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this 
is
as
far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right
antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said 
before,
the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, 
and
I
am not getting the full gain that I should.
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
   
Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'. 
The
Hi-Gain specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA
lengths
for the different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about
22'.
Unless there is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining 
portion
of
the label or you can find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's
just a
guess at this point.
   
Doug   N3DAB
   
   
-- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6cbs@ 
wrote:

 It could be a TDD-6082

 See here:

 http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread n3dab
Do your self a big favor and don't drill any holes.  Use 1 or 2 large stainless 
steel hose clamps, slip 3 or 4 aluminum radials up between the clamp and metal 
antenna base (similar to what you see in the picture for the TDD-6082).  That 
is the way the Motorola and Station Master base station radials are atached.  
Extend the aluminum radial metal about 1 above the top clamp, tighten the 
clamps and then fold the 1 projection over to cover the SS clamp band.  That 
way if the clamp loosens up a bit the radials wont fall off.

Doug   N3DAB  


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... 
wrote:

 Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks like the 
 general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even bother trying 
 the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials though, but with this antenna 
 I could even drill some holes in the collar that screws over the N connector 
 and install radials that way.  I bet that will help with the radiation 
 pattern a bit.  Thanks for all the assitance, as always, this is an awesome 
 group.  73;s
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ wrote:
 
  You described mine like you were looking at it.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: wb6dgn tallinson2@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna 
  made by Motorola
  
  
   Hi Gerald and the group,
   I think I've got one of these antennas too.
   It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an 
   inch 
   in diameter at the base,
   coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 inch 
   diameter.
   A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female 
   connector.
   The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it. 
   There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer 
   readable now.
   There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the numbers 
   are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
   It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
   I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
   if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels 
   were 
   in the 453/458 range
   with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on the 
   ham band.
   The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
   scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
   Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where to 
   look,
   I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can find 
   it.
   Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco catalog 
   that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
   Tom DGN
  
  
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
   wrote:
  
   The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. Small 
   bolt
   fasten them together around the base.
  
   Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
   McPherson, Ks
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
   antenna
   made by Motorola
  
  
Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have does
not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them 
either.
I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond
F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using now, 
plus
it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small 
investment
would yield better coverage.
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@
wrote:
   
I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long (I
didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I used 
it
temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR
wasn't
bad and worked just fine.
   
Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks
   
   
- Original Message - 
From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater
antenna
made by Motorola
   
   
 That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured 
 has
 ground radials, this one does not.  Without specifics I guess this 
 is
 as
 far as I can go.  What I am trying to do is see if this is the right
 antenna for a ham repeater on 447.425/442.425 split.  As I said 
 before,
 the SWR is OK, but I wonder if it is just operating on a multiple, 
 and
 I
 am not getting the full gain that I should

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread gebhardstephen
Good point, much easier to use a couple of clamps, and I just happen to have 
some stainless steel clamps here in the garage!  Thanks for the advice.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote:

 Do your self a big favor and don't drill any holes.  Use 1 or 2 large 
 stainless steel hose clamps, slip 3 or 4 aluminum radials up between the 
 clamp and metal antenna base (similar to what you see in the picture for the 
 TDD-6082).  That is the way the Motorola and Station Master base station 
 radials are atached.  Extend the aluminum radial metal about 1 above the top 
 clamp, tighten the clamps and then fold the 1 projection over to cover the 
 SS clamp band.  That way if the clamp loosens up a bit the radials wont fall 
 off.
 
 Doug   N3DAB  
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
 wrote:
 
  Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks like 
  the general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even bother 
  trying the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials though, but with this 
  antenna I could even drill some holes in the collar that screws over the N 
  connector and install radials that way.  I bet that will help with the 
  radiation pattern a bit.  Thanks for all the assitance, as always, this is 
  an awesome group.  73;s
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ wrote:
  
   You described mine like you were looking at it.
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: wb6dgn tallinson2@
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
   antenna 
   made by Motorola
   
   
Hi Gerald and the group,
I think I've got one of these antennas too.
It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an 
inch 
in diameter at the base,
coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 inch 
diameter.
A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female 
connector.
The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it. 
There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer 
readable now.
There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the 
numbers 
are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels 
were 
in the 453/458 range
with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on 
the 
ham band.
The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where to 
look,
I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can 
find 
it.
Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco 
catalog 
that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
Tom DGN
   
   
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
wrote:
   
The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. 
Small 
bolt
fasten them together around the base.
   
Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
McPherson, Ks
   
- Original Message - 
From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
antenna
made by Motorola
   
   
 Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have 
 does
 not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them 
 either.
 I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a Diamond
 F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using 
 now, 
 plus
 it is designed for the frequency I am on, I wonder if the small 
 investment
 would yield better coverage.

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@
 wrote:

 I have one of those in the garage. TDE-6082A It's about 7 feet long 
 (I
 didn't measure it) and has radials on it. Label says 460- 470. I 
 used 
 it
 temporarily on a 443.275 machine here at the house for testing. SWR
 wasn't
 bad and worked just fine.

 Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
 McPherson, Ks


 - Original Message - 
 From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:13 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater
 antenna
 made by Motorola


  That one is closer, but the length is wrong, and the one pictured

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread n3dab
Forgot to mention if you can't find alum. for the ground plane elements at the 
local surpus yard or hardware store (HD or Lowes) see if you can find the city 
or county sign shop (the people who maintain the stop, yield and directional 
signs) as the may have pulls  or damaged signs you can talk them out of.  These 
are fairly heavy gage but usually soft alum. alloy and can be easily cut into 
strips with a carbide tipped blade on a small table saw with out any damage to 
the saw.  Just make sure you put the alum. side against the metal mast stub as 
the sign side is a decal and you may not get the bonding you want for the 
radials.  

Doug  N3DAB


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... 
wrote:

 Good point, much easier to use a couple of clamps, and I just happen to have 
 some stainless steel clamps here in the garage!  Thanks for the advice.
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  Do your self a big favor and don't drill any holes.  Use 1 or 2 large 
  stainless steel hose clamps, slip 3 or 4 aluminum radials up between the 
  clamp and metal antenna base (similar to what you see in the picture for 
  the TDD-6082).  That is the way the Motorola and Station Master base 
  station radials are atached.  Extend the aluminum radial metal about 1 
  above the top clamp, tighten the clamps and then fold the 1 projection 
  over to cover the SS clamp band.  That way if the clamp loosens up a bit 
  the radials wont fall off.
  
  Doug   N3DAB  
  
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
  wrote:
  
   Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks like 
   the general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even bother 
   trying the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials though, but with 
   this antenna I could even drill some holes in the collar that screws over 
   the N connector and install radials that way.  I bet that will help with 
   the radiation pattern a bit.  Thanks for all the assitance, as always, 
   this is an awesome group.  73;s
   
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ wrote:
   
You described mine like you were looking at it.

- Original Message - 
From: wb6dgn tallinson2@
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
antenna 
made by Motorola


 Hi Gerald and the group,
 I think I've got one of these antennas too.
 It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about an 
 inch 
 in diameter at the base,
 coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 
 inch 
 diameter.
 A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N female 
 connector.
 The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over it. 
 There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no longer 
 readable now.
 There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the 
 numbers 
 are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
 It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
 I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
 if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the channels 
 were 
 in the 453/458 range
 with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine on 
 the 
 ham band.
 The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
 scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
 Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know where 
 to 
 look,
 I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can 
 find 
 it.
 Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco 
 catalog 
 that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
 Tom DGN


 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
 wrote:

 The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. 
 Small 
 bolt
 fasten them together around the base.

 Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
 McPherson, Ks

 - Original Message - 
 From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
 antenna
 made by Motorola


  Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I have 
  does
  not have ground radials, and I don't see any place to install them 
  either.
  I was contemplating changing the antenna to something like a 
  Diamond
  F718A, it has better gain, almost double over the one I am using 
  now, 
  plus
  it is designed for the frequency I am

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-27 Thread gebhardstephen
I am pretty sure HD has aluminum strips that will work just fine.  Should I 
make the radials 1/4 wave , or longer?

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote:

 Forgot to mention if you can't find alum. for the ground plane elements at 
 the local surpus yard or hardware store (HD or Lowes) see if you can find the 
 city or county sign shop (the people who maintain the stop, yield and 
 directional signs) as the may have pulls  or damaged signs you can talk them 
 out of.  These are fairly heavy gage but usually soft alum. alloy and can be 
 easily cut into strips with a carbide tipped blade on a small table saw with 
 out any damage to the saw.  Just make sure you put the alum. side against the 
 metal mast stub as the sign side is a decal and you may not get the bonding 
 you want for the radials.  
 
 Doug  N3DAB
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
 wrote:
 
  Good point, much easier to use a couple of clamps, and I just happen to 
  have some stainless steel clamps here in the garage!  Thanks for the advice.
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   Do your self a big favor and don't drill any holes.  Use 1 or 2 large 
   stainless steel hose clamps, slip 3 or 4 aluminum radials up between the 
   clamp and metal antenna base (similar to what you see in the picture for 
   the TDD-6082).  That is the way the Motorola and Station Master base 
   station radials are atached.  Extend the aluminum radial metal about 1 
   above the top clamp, tighten the clamps and then fold the 1 projection 
   over to cover the SS clamp band.  That way if the clamp loosens up a bit 
   the radials wont fall off.
   
   Doug   N3DAB  
   
   
   --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
   wrote:
   
Yes, that sounds like the antenna I have exactly, must be it.  Looks 
like the general concensuss is to keep this one in service and not even 
bother trying the Diamond antenna.  I don't have the radials though, 
but with this antenna I could even drill some holes in the collar that 
screws over the N connector and install radials that way.  I bet that 
will help with the radiation pattern a bit.  Thanks for all the 
assitance, as always, this is an awesome group.  73;s

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
wrote:

 You described mine like you were looking at it.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: wb6dgn tallinson2@
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:16 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
 antenna 
 made by Motorola
 
 
  Hi Gerald and the group,
  I think I've got one of these antennas too.
  It has a white fiberglass radome, just under 7 feet long and about 
  an inch 
  in diameter at the base,
  coupled to an aluminum bottom section about a foot long and 1-5/16 
  inch 
  diameter.
  A protective sleeve of the aluminum unscrews to expose an N 
  female 
  connector.
  The logo is a black rectangle with a white ellipse centered over 
  it. 
  There was probably a name written in that ellipse but it's no 
  longer 
  readable now.
  There is a serial number tag on the aluminum base but some of the 
  numbers 
  are no longer readable due to a clamp damaging the tag.
  It also has the radial assembly just as you describe.
  I see no other markings or frequency range marked on it but,
  if it was pulled from the system I think it was, most of the 
  channels were 
  in the 453/458 range
  with one or two in the 467 range.  I suspect it'll work just fine 
  on the 
  ham band.
  The mounting clamps are missing but they should be pretty easy to 
  scrounge; if anyone has spares, let me know.
  Where is the frequency range marked on the antenna?  If I know 
  where to 
  look,
  I'll try to clean a little of the dirt or oxidation to see if I can 
  find 
  it.
  Looks like a nice antenna.  There's an RFS version in the Tessco 
  catalog 
  that suggests that they might be the OEM parent of this antenna.
  Tom DGN
 
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gerald Pelnar wd0fyf@ 
  wrote:
 
  The radials just clamp on. Each one is bent to reach to the next. 
  Small 
  bolt
  fasten them together around the base.
 
  Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF
  McPherson, Ks
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater 
  antenna
  made by Motorola
 
 
   Thanks Gerald, that sounds like the one, except for the one I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-26 Thread gebhardstephen
Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1!  Do you know 
who made this for Motorola?

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3...@... wrote:

 It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz.  If ti is working properly it would 
 be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 band 
 but probably more then you would want to consider having.
 
 
 Doug  N3DAB
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
 wrote:
 
  Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz.  I cannot 
  find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc.  The last 
  of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and 
  unreadable).  I have done some searching and cannot find any information on 
  a Motorola brand antenna.  It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length, 
  with a N connector, and no ground radials.  Does anyone out there have some 
  infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it?  Thanks to all, 
  and have a great day!
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-26 Thread n3dab
Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge.  Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB 
Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you in 
on that.

Doug  N3DAB


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@... 
wrote:

 Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1!  Do you know 
 who made this for Motorola?
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz.  If ti is working properly it would 
  be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in SWR in the 440 
  band but probably more then you would want to consider having.
  
  
  Doug  N3DAB
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@ 
  wrote:
  
   Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz.  I 
   cannot find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc.  
   The last of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn 
   off and unreadable).  I have done some searching and cannot find any 
   information on a Motorola brand antenna.  It is a fiberglass stick about 
   6 foot in length, with a N connector, and no ground radials.  Does anyone 
   out there have some infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find 
   it?  Thanks to all, and have a great day!
  
 





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-26 Thread Mark
I'm confused.  This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I
Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna.  Which
are we talking about?

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab

Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge.  Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB
Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you
in on that.

Doug  N3DAB

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebh...@...
wrote:

 Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1!  Do you
know who made this for Motorola?
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
 
  It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz.  If ti is working properly it
would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   SWR in
the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having.
  
  Doug  N3DAB
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
wrote:

Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz.  I cannot
find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc.  The last
of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and
unreadable).  I have done some searching and cannot find any information on
a Motorola brand antenna.  It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length,
with a N connector, and no ground radials.  Does anyone out there have some
infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it?  Thanks to all,
and have a great day!



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-26 Thread gebhardstephen
It is a repetare antenna, not mobile.  If that part number googles as a mobile, 
maybe that is not the correct number

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote:

 I'm confused.  This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I
 Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna.  Which
 are we talking about?
 
 Mark - N9WYS
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
 
 Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge.  Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB
 Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you
 in on that.
 
 Doug  N3DAB
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:
 
  Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1!  Do you
 know who made this for Motorola?
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz.  If ti is working properly it
 would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   SWR in
 the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having.
   
   Doug  N3DAB
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:
 
 Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz.  I cannot
 find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc.  The last
 of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and
 unreadable).  I have done some searching and cannot find any information on
 a Motorola brand antenna.  It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length,
 with a N connector, and no ground radials.  Does anyone out there have some
 infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it?  Thanks to all,
 and have a great day!





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-26 Thread n3dab
Mark

My info came from an old Moto. catalog.  If it is about 8' OA long
long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna.  

Doug N3DAB


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote:

 I'm confused.  This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if I
 Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna.  Which
 are we talking about?
 
 Mark - N9WYS
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
 
 Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge.  Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB
 Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you
 in on that.
 
 Doug  N3DAB
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:
 
  Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1!  Do you
 know who made this for Motorola?
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz.  If ti is working properly it
 would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   SWR in
 the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having.
   
   Doug  N3DAB
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:
 
 Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz.  I cannot
 find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc.  The last
 of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and
 unreadable).  I have done some searching and cannot find any information on
 a Motorola brand antenna.  It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length,
 with a N connector, and no ground radials.  Does anyone out there have some
 infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it?  Thanks to all,
 and have a great day!





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-26 Thread Bill Hudson
It could be a TDD-6082

See here:

http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf

 

Bill - W6CBS

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna
made by Motorola

 

Mark

My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna. 

Doug N3DAB

--- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@... wrote:

 I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if
I
 Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which
 are we talking about?
 
 Mark - N9WYS
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
 
 Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB
 Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you
 in on that.
 
 Doug N3DAB
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:
 
  Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you
 know who made this for Motorola?
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
  
   It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it
 would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   SWR in
 the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having.
   
   Doug N3DAB
 --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
 wrote:
 
 Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot
 find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last
 of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and
 unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on
 a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length,
 with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some
 infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all,
 and have a great day!






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna made by Motorola

2009-03-26 Thread n3dab
Could be.  Motorola spec say OA length for the TDE-6082A is *'.  The Hi-Gain 
specs for the TDD-6082A on the RB site don't give the OA lengths for the 
different gain antennas, except to say max. length is about 22'. Unless there 
is some indication of the Mfg. on the remaining portion of the label or you can 
find more specs. for the Hi-Gain antenns it's just a guess at this point.

Doug   N3DAB


-- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson w6...@... wrote:

 It could be a TDD-6082
 
 See here:
 
 http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/mot-vhf-hi-gain-ant-specs.pdf
 
  
 
 Bill - W6CBS
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n3dab
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:52 PM
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need information on a UHF repeater antenna
 made by Motorola
 
  
 
 Mark
 
 My info came from an old Moto. catalog. If it is about 8' OA long
 long with a N connector as he described on it it's not a mobile antenna. 
 
 Doug N3DAB
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, Mark n9wys@ wrote:
 
  I'm confused. This was described initially as a repeater antenna but if
 I
  Google the Motorola part number, I see pictures of a mobile antenna. Which
  are we talking about?
  
  Mark - N9WYS
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of n3dab
  
  Negative, but my guess would be Phelps Dodge. Maybe Celwave,or possibly DB
  Products. Maybe some of the other Guru's on the site can probably fill you
  in on that.
  
  Doug N3DAB
  
  --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  wrote:
  
   Thanks Doug, actually I checked SWR on 442 Mhz and it is 1.2:1! Do you
  know who made this for Motorola?
   
   --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, n3dab rb_n3dab@ wrote:
   
It's a TDE-6082A, 5db gain, 460-470MHz. If ti is working properly it
  would be good for GMRS as is. Don't know what you would find in   SWR in
  the 440 band but probably more then you would want to consider having.

Doug N3DAB
  --- In Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, gebhardstephen stevegebhard@
  wrote:
  
  Hi all, I have a UHF repeter antenna that was in use on 463 Mhz. I cannot
  find any information as to frequency range, max power, gain, etc. The last
  of the model # is E-6082A (The first part of the label is worn off and
  unreadable). I have done some searching and cannot find any information on
  a Motorola brand antenna. It is a fiberglass stick about 6 foot in length,
  with a N connector, and no ground radials. Does anyone out there have some
  infromation on this antenna, or know where I can find it? Thanks to all,
  and have a great day!