RE: [Repeater-Builder] Manual

[Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh]

Hello Jack and the GROUP!
A quick google search brought up this link:

http://www.freeinfostuff.com/

Looks like it has a rough copy of what you seek, and then some!
Hope this helps
Charlie

"It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
Amateur that holds the license."

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Repeater System:
Rowlett Main: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
Dallas: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
Rowlett II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823
http://www.CharliesElectronics.com


>  Original Message 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual
> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, January 15, 2008 10:30 am
> To: 
> Does anyone have a service manual for a Ramsey COM-3 service monitor?  I have 
> one that works but the signal output falls off at lower frequencies.  It is 
> fine above 700 MHz but drops 15 db at 150 MHz.  I would certainly pay for a 
> copy.
> Thanks,
> Jack
> K6YC

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed

[Eric Lemmon]

Lee,

All GE manuals are compiled from a very large assortment of individual
documents; there is no such thing as "a manual" for any mobile or station
radio.  In order to compile the documents you need for your particular
station, go to the following site:

and download each of the following documents:

LBI-4787  Combination manual
LBI-4986  IFAS Board
LBI-30025  RX Cover Sheet
LBI-30029  Oscillator-Multiplier Board
LBI-30032  RF Assembly and Filter
LBI-30113  RX Description and Maintenance
LBI-30200  TX Exciter
LBI-30211  TX Cover Sheet
LBI-30212  TX Description and Maintenance
LBI-30213  TX Power Amplifier
LBI-30414  Station Installation
LBI-30701  Control Description and Maintenance
LBI-30704  10 VDC Regulator
LBI-30705  Audio Boards
LBI-30714  Repeater Control Boards
LBI-30719  Control Shelf Cover Sheet
LBI-30727  Tone Filter
LBI-30775  Station Combinations D&M
LBI-30867  Station Power Supplies
LBI-31056  Channel Guard

As you can see, a complete manual for your station comprises 20 separate
documents- which is why the new station was provided with a binder of
loose-leaf pages.  Your station is designed to operate in the 406-420 MHz
band, as evidenced by the "77" in the combination number.  If it were
designed for a different band or power level, some of the documents in the
above list would be different.  Had you not included the combination number
in your message, you would almost certainly get a pig in a poke.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:15 PM
To: Repeater Builders Yahoo Group
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed

Hi guys,
Anyone have a spare service manual for a G.E. Mastr II,  UHF machine??
It does not have to be like new, just complete and not too raggedy. HI
Model # DC55YAU77B, tnx in advance.
de Lee
K4LJP
73
-- 
"Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid."

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 03:15 PM 05/31/09, you wrote:


Hi guys,
Anyone have a spare service manual for a G.E. Mastr II,  UHF machine??
It does not have to be like new, just complete and not too raggedy. HI
Model # DC55YAU77B, tnx in advance.
de Lee
K4LJP
73
--
"Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid."


This is a frequent question, and the answer is the same
each time - there is no one manual for any GE radio.

You need to "build" a manual, starting with your combination
number.

First, go to www.repeater-builder.com then click on the GE link.
Then scroll down to the "GE Technical Information" heading, then
click on the LBI page.
Then scroll down to the Product Code Index files, and click on
"PC67 Mastr II stations".
You will, at that point, see that you have a continuous duty, low
power wideband channel guard repeater in a DeskMate cabinet.

But the reason you are looking at that document is on the second
page.  If you look carefully at the first table, you will see that the
second, third and fifth "digit" in the combo number is critical and
determines  what the starting manual page is.

Your combination number is DC55YAU77B, and the C, 5,
and Y leads you to LBI4787 as the starter page, which is
basically a cover page for a 3-ring binder.

Go back to the LBI page and look up LBI4787, then print it.
That page leads you to LBI30775.  Look it up and see that it
says "full page" under the number.
That means that it has wiiddeee pull-out pages, and you can
either print them yourself and tape them together, or take the
file to a Kinkos/FedEx shop or a graphics shop on a thumb drive
(sometimes called a pen drive or a flash drive) and have them
print the wide pages on their roll feed printer.  Some shops let
you email the files to them.

Going back to LBI4787 gives the receiver and transmitter number...
The second table is for the transmitter, and the "5" and "77" give
LBI30211 as the transmitter LBI, and third table uses the "U" and
"77" to give LBI30025 as the receiver LBI.
The last table uses the "5" to give LBI30867 as the power supply.

So go look up LBI30211 and you will find it is a cover sheet (again
noted as "full page") for LBI30212, LBI 30200, and LBI30213.

On the receiver look up LBI30025 and you will find it is a cover sheet
for LBI30113, LBI30032, LBI30029, and LBI4986.
You will also see a note that is has been replaced by LBI38505.
After you look at both you may decide to print one, or both.

So keep drilling down and printing LBIs as you go (or copying them
to the thumb drive) and you will end up with the complete custom
manual for your station.

And if you find any errors, let me know, I'll fix them.  I've put a lot of
work into that section of the web site (and I don't even own a GE radio!)
and I'm still finding errors.

If you stumble across any LBIs we don't have, let me know as well.
We can get them scanned into PDFs and then added to the page.

Mike WA6ILQ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Needed

[Lee Pennington]

Thanks Guys,
I certainly appreciate all of your Input.
de Lee
K4LJP
73

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:

>
>
>  At 03:15 PM 05/31/09, you wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> Anyone have a spare service manual for a G.E. Mastr II,  UHF machine??
> It does not have to be like new, just *complete* and not too raggedy. HI
> Model # DC55YAU77B, tnx in advance.
> de Lee
> K4LJP
> 73
> --
> "Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid."
>
>
> This is a frequent question, and the answer is the same
> each time - there is no one manual for any GE radio.
>
> You need to "build" a manual, starting with your combination
> number.
>
> First, go to www.repeater-builder.com then click on the GE link.
> Then scroll down to the "GE Technical Information" heading, then
> click on the LBI page.
> Then scroll down to the Product Code Index files, and click on
> "PC67 Mastr II stations".
> You will, at that point, see that you have a continuous duty, low
> power wideband channel guard repeater in a DeskMate cabinet.
>
> But the reason you are looking at that document is on the second
> page.  If you look carefully at the first table, you will see that the
> second, third and fifth "digit" in the combo number is critical and
> determines  what the starting manual page is.
>
> Your combination number is DC55YAU77B, and the C, 5,
> and Y leads you to LBI4787 as the starter page, which is
> basically a cover page for a 3-ring binder.
>
> Go back to the LBI page and look up LBI4787, then print it.
> That page leads you to LBI30775.  Look it up and see that it
> says "full page" under the number.
> That means that it has wiiddeee pull-out pages, and you can
> either print them yourself and tape them together, or take the
> file to a Kinkos/FedEx shop or a graphics shop on a thumb drive
> (sometimes called a pen drive or a flash drive) and have them
> print the wide pages on their roll feed printer.  Some shops let
> you email the files to them.
>
> Going back to LBI4787 gives the receiver and transmitter number...
> The second table is for the transmitter, and the "5" and "77" give
> LBI30211 as the transmitter LBI, and third table uses the "U" and
> "77" to give LBI30025 as the receiver LBI.
> The last table uses the "5" to give LBI30867 as the power supply.
>
> So go look up LBI30211 and you will find it is a cover sheet (again
> noted as "full page") for LBI30212, LBI 30200, and LBI30213.
>
> On the receiver look up LBI30025 and you will find it is a cover sheet
> for LBI30113, LBI30032, LBI30029, and LBI4986.
> You will also see a note that is has been replaced by LBI38505.
> After you look at both you may decide to print one, or both.
>
> So keep drilling down and printing LBIs as you go (or copying them
> to the thumb drive) and you will end up with the complete custom
> manual for your station.
>
> And if you find any errors, let me know, I'll fix them.  I've put a lot of
> work into that section of the web site (and I don't even own a GE radio!)
> and I'm still finding errors.
>
> If you stumble across any LBIs we don't have, let me know as well.
> We can get them scanned into PDFs and then added to the page.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>  
>



-- 
"Smart pills are placebos, you can't fix stupid."

Re: [Repeater-Builder] manual needed

[Jim B.]

Mike Pugh wrote:

> Anyone have a manual, a copy, a scan, or a PDF for a Ritron Responder 
> UHF desktop repeater? Unit has no model number on it I can find, but has 
> FCC ID# of AIE9QZRR-450. Any help is appreciated. Mike Pugh
> 

FWIW-I can't help with the manual, but the model number in this case is 
RR-450.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual for MSR2000

[Neil McKie]

  Please remember ... there are two (2) manuals ... one for the RF 
 section and one of the control / applications section. 

  The RF section you need will depend on the radio frequency band 
 of the radio you have - ie: 136 - 174 MHz or 406 - 512 MHz. 

  Hope this helps, 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


Paul Guello wrote:
> 
> Anyone out there in repeater land have a manual they could spare or
> share for a MSR2000?  Or know where one is available?
> 
> Paul, kb9wlc
>





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] manual search motorola r2210b

[ka9qjg]

 
 
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Good Luck 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Data Signal, Inc

[Eric Lemmon]

David,

I have a CWID-50 Automatic Station Identifier, and it was made by Control
Signal Corporation, not "Data Signal."  I was able to buy both the manual
and a new PROM for it at reasonable prices.  Go here:


The phone number is 800-521-2203.  I wonder if CSC is really the
manufacturer of the CWID-70.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:24 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Data Signal, Inc

Hello all,
I have a nice working Data Signal, Inc CWID-70. I cannot find anything 
online at all about Data Signal, Inc never mind finding any manual for 
the CWID-70. Anyone have any info on this unit. Need to find out the 
pinout for the 25 connectors on the back and about programming.
Thanks
David

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Request-Motorola RICK

[Eric Lemmon]

Joe,

The Instruction Manual for the HLNB R*I*C*K is 6880901Z79, and is still
available from Motorola Parts for about $6.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Serocki
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Request-Motorola RICK

Anyone have a manual? I could use it, especially with the pinouts. I have a
schematic, but it only shows half the pinouts! Sheesh J 

73 

Joe Serocki, N9IFG

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Request-Motorola RICK

[Bob M.]

The single-page schematic on BatLabs is complete. That's all it is in the 
manual. Three 16-pin connectors.

Bob M.
==
--- On Sun, 2/1/09, Joe Serocki  wrote:

From: Joe Serocki 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual Request-Motorola RICK
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 8:34 AM

Anyone have a manual? I could use it, especially with the pinouts. I have a 
schematic, but it only shows half the pinouts! Sheesh J
 
73
 
Joe Serocki, N9IFG


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 05:34 PM 12/06/08, you wrote:
>I have 2 Motorola S-1320A-1 Solid state signal generators in my shop
>that I need to service. One has intermitant 1000hz tone sometimes it
>works and usually when you need it it doesn't. The other has a power
>supply problem.  I would like to find a manual for this either borrow,
>rent or buy. I use it for repeater site work and it takes a beating but
>I can't afford to upgrade right now. Does someone out there have a
>manual on the shelf that would be willing to assist.  Thanks Art.  Can
>respond off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There's a manual on ebay right now - $34.99 plus $10 shipping.
No, I don't know the seller.


Mike WA6ILQ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[Jim Brown]

Both my Motorola Signal Generators developed an intermittent with the 1 kHz 
tone and I pulled the units out of the case and cleaned the pins on the PC 
cards.

The old red ruby eraser trick worked like a charm.  I also found a light 
coating of a greasy film on the contacts which I cleaned with a Q tip and 
alcohol before applying the eraser.  

I use mine for duplexer tuning since they have a lot lower signal leakage than 
my service monitor.  A double shielded cable between the generator and the 6 dB 
pad at the antenna connection allows me to use a handheld radio to tune for max 
on the pass and also tune the nulls.  I use another 6 dB pad at the port output 
to the talkie and a 50 ohm load on the other port.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Arthur R Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Arthur R Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 7:34 PM











I have 2 Motorola S-1320A-1 Solid state signal generators in my 
shop 

that I need to service. One has intermitant 1000hz tone sometimes it 

works and usually when you need it it doesn't. The other has a power 

supply problem.  I would like to find a manual for this either borrow, 

rent or buy. I use it for repeater site work and it takes a beating but 

I can't afford to upgrade right now. Does someone out there have a 

manual on the shelf that would be willing to assist.  Thanks Art.  Can 

respond off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] com



 

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[no6b]

>
>Mike WA6ILQ

Mike:

I didn't receive a reply to the e-mail I sent you last week.  Did you get it?

Bob

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[Don Kovalchik - W8DPK]

Here is a link to the S-1320A service manual:



It's a pretty large file, about 16MB, but it's very high resolution.  
I'll leave it on the site for a few weeks.


73,

--Don--  W8DPK
,___

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[neal Newman]

Don this Link does not work
 Neal-ka2caf

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Don Kovalchik - W8DPK  wrote:


Here is a link to the S-1320A service manual:



It's a pretty large file, about 16MB, but it's very high resolution.  I'll 
leave it on the site for a few weeks.

73,

--Don--  W8DPK
,___ 
 


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

Try this one:  Go to www.repeater-builder.com, click on Motorola, scroll
down to "The manual for Motorola's S-1318A, S-1319A, S1320A, S1321A 
and S1329A Signal Generators".

It's been there for over 4 years.

And when corrected, the mcarcoh link does work - the spaces in it didn't
get properly translated to %20 when it was posted.  Try this:


They are different files - the mcarcoh file is 16mb, the 
repeater-builder one is about 20mb.

Other than the size, I don't know what the differences are.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 06:32 AM 12/12/08, you wrote:

Don this Link does not work
 Neal-ka2caf

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Don Kovalchik - W8DPK  wrote:
Here is a link to the S-1320A service manual:



It's a pretty large file, about 16MB, but it's very high 
resolution.  I'll leave it on the site for a few weeks.


73,

--Don--  W8DPK
,___

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

Try this one:  Go to www.repeater-builder.com, click on Motorola, scroll
down to "The manual for Motorola's S-1318A, S-1319A, S1320A, S1321A 
and S1329A Signal Generators".
It's been there for over 4 years.

And when corrected, the mcarcoh link does work - the spaces in it didn't
get properly translated to %20 when it was posted.  Try this:


They are different files - the mcarcoh file is 16mb, the 
repeater-builder one is about 20mb.
Other than the size, I don't know what the differences are.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 06:32 AM 12/12/08, you wrote:
>Don this Link does not work
>  Neal-ka2caf
>
>--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Don Kovalchik - W8DPK  wrote:
>Here is a link to the S-1320A service manual:
>
>It's a pretty large file, about 16MB, but it's very high 
>resolution.  I'll leave it on the site for a few weeks.
>73,
>--Don--  W8DPK
>,___
>
>
>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

[Eric Lemmon]

Arthur,

I don't have a copy of the manual, but I can advise you that the manual part
number is 68-81061A75, which may help you find a copy.  Unfortunately, it is
NLA from Motorola Parts.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur R Carlson
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:34 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Manual needed Motorola S-1320A Signal Generator

I have 2 Motorola S-1320A-1 Solid state signal generators in my shop 
that I need to service. One has intermitant 1000hz tone sometimes it 
works and usually when you need it it doesn't. The other has a power 
supply problem. I would like to find a manual for this either borrow, 
rent or buy. I use it for repeater site work and it takes a beating but 
I can't afford to upgrade right now. Does someone out there have a 
manual on the shelf that would be willing to assist. Thanks Art. Can 
respond off list to wa0...@hotmail.com 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Manual for E.F. Johnson CR-1010 Repeater

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 08:08 PM 02/01/09, you wrote:


I was not able to upload this to the site due to its size, 13.16 Meg
If someone wants this file, please go to the link below, I got this
information from an E.F. Johnson Rep.
If you can get it to upload here, please do.

http://www.savefile.com/files/1933552

Thanks,
Danny


That file is identical to the one on www.repeater-builder.com
on the Johnson page, only R-B's copy is the leaner 8.2 Meg
version (exact same contents).

Mike WA6ILQ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitizeto PDF)

[Michael H. Cox]

Anyone who wants to fax a manual to 702-446-5289, it will come to my email as a 
PDF and I will email the PDF back to you.
Thanks,

Michael H. Cox
michaelh...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Joe 
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:20:12 
To: 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize
 to PDF)

My HP PSC2410 Photosmart all-in-one Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier came with 
software that will scan something into many formats, including PDF 
files.  The only thing I find is that the size of the PDF file is rather 
large.

73, Joe, K1ike

Benjamin L. Naber wrote:
> Thanks to those whom commented. I like the idea of being able to have
> someone else spend time on scanning manuals instead of me for a little
> money. However, it's also good to know how to do it myself when I have
> only one or two items as a time.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[Robert Pease]

All Hail GIMP 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin L. Naber
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize
to PDF)

 

  

For those whom are scanning manuals, what program is used to mosaic the
larger foldouts into one 'page'? If someone says GIMP, then I'm game!

I have several manuals that will be copied and then probably recycled,
so I'd like to know what folks are doing...

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[DCFluX]

ARCsoft Scan and Stitch is what I used.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Robert Pease  wrote:

>
>
>  All Hail GIMP 
>
>
>
> *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin L. Naber
> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2010 2:39 PM
> *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize
> to PDF)
>
>
>
>
>
> For those whom are scanning manuals, what program is used to mosaic the
> larger foldouts into one 'page'? If someone says GIMP, then I'm game!
>
> I have several manuals that will be copied and then probably recycled,
> so I'd like to know what folks are doing...
>
> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
>
>
>
> Since 1974, the award-winning Alpert JFCS has helped families of all faiths
> throughout most of Palm Beach County, FL, via counseling, seniors services,
> residences for the disabled, mentoring children, support groups and a lot
> more.
> *
>
> SOLUTIONS FOR LIVING
> (R)*
>
> *www.JFCSonline.com*  *
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[Eric Lemmon]

Benjamin,

There is no need to mosaic anything.  The key is to use a commercial scanner
that has a throat of at least 48", so that long foldout sheets can be
scanned in one pass directly into PDF.  Such machines are very expensive,
and would normally be found only at a commercial graphics house.  It is not
a good idea to scan long pages into segments that later must be taped or
somehow pieced together.  Mention has been made of "stitching" the pieces
back together using special software, but this is unnecessary if the
original had been scanned in one piece.  Besides, I have never found such
software to be either 100% effective or reasonably priced.  The free Adobe
Reader package includes a great feature, called the "SnapShot Tool."
Depending upon the Reader version, this may appear on the toolbar as a
camera inside of a box, or it may be in the Tools drop-down menu.  If all
you want is a portion of a long foldout schematic, simply select that
portion with the SnapShot Tool cursor, and it will be copied to your
Clipboard.  You can then print out that detail on a standard page printer.

Another issue is that a line drawing, such as a schematic diagram, should be
scanned directly into PDF to maintain high quality and a reasonable size.
Image formats such as GIF, TIFF, and JPEG are great for color pictures but
are not appropriate for line drawings.  When an image has but two bits,
either 0 or 1, it is a huge waste of file space to scan it as if it had
16,000,000 colors.  Adobe Acrobat Professional software includes drivers
that seamlessly interface with commercial scanners.  When scanning pages
directly into PDF, use the line drawing setting unless the 8-bit gray scale
setting is needed for photographs or PCB layouts.  Above all, do not scan
any black-and-white images as color images. 

Finally, all pages should be oriented as 11 inches high, regardless of
viewing aspect.  This will permit the PDF to be printed on a commercial roll
printer, reproducing the original in exactly the same size and format as the
hard copy that was scanned.  

Unless every page of a manual is 8.5 by 11 inches, take it to a commercial
graphics house for a professional scanning job.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin L. Naber
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:39 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to
PDF)

  

For those whom are scanning manuals, what program is used to mosaic the
larger foldouts into one 'page'? If someone says GIMP, then I'm game!

I have several manuals that will be copied and then probably recycled,
so I'd like to know what folks are doing...

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[George Henry]

I use a Fujitsu flatbed scanner at work that also has an automatic document 
feeder that can handle the large foldouts in a single pass.  I scan directly 
to PDF, no intermediate graphics files.

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413


- Original Message - 
From: "Benjamin L. Naber" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:38 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to 
PDF)


> For those whom are scanning manuals, what program is used to mosaic the
> larger foldouts into one 'page'? If someone says GIMP, then I'm game!
>
> I have several manuals that will be copied and then probably recycled,
> so I'd like to know what folks are doing...
>
> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
>
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[DCFluX]

I was surprised how well the scan stitch worked, it even has fine skew controls.

I'm more interested in an OCR program that will spit out regenerated
text with the correct font and in the right places for a PDF.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[Benjamin L. Naber]

Thanks to those whom commented. I like the idea of being able to have
someone else spend time on scanning manuals instead of me for a little
money. However, it's also good to know how to do it myself when I have
only one or two items as a time.

One of these days I hope to see a manual library on a website...
I will certainly offer all the manuals in PDF that I have.

~Benjamin, KB9LFZ

On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 12:24 -0800, Eric Lemmon wrote:
>   
> Benjamin,
> 
> There is no need to mosaic anything. The key is to use a commercial
> scanner
> that has a throat of at least 48", so that long foldout sheets can be
> scanned in one pass directly into PDF. Such machines are very
> expensive,
> and would normally be found only at a commercial graphics house. It is
> not
> a good idea to scan long pages into segments that later must be taped
> or
> somehow pieced together. Mention has been made of "stitching" the
> pieces
> back together using special software, but this is unnecessary if the
> original had been scanned in one piece. Besides, I have never found
> such
> software to be either 100% effective or reasonably priced. The free
> Adobe
> Reader package includes a great feature, called the "SnapShot Tool."
> Depending upon the Reader version, this may appear on the toolbar as a
> camera inside of a box, or it may be in the Tools drop-down menu. If
> all
> you want is a portion of a long foldout schematic, simply select that
> portion with the SnapShot Tool cursor, and it will be copied to your
> Clipboard. You can then print out that detail on a standard page
> printer.
> 
> Another issue is that a line drawing, such as a schematic diagram,
> should be
> scanned directly into PDF to maintain high quality and a reasonable
> size.
> Image formats such as GIF, TIFF, and JPEG are great for color pictures
> but
> are not appropriate for line drawings. When an image has but two bits,
> either 0 or 1, it is a huge waste of file space to scan it as if it
> had
> 16,000,000 colors. Adobe Acrobat Professional software includes
> drivers
> that seamlessly interface with commercial scanners. When scanning
> pages
> directly into PDF, use the line drawing setting unless the 8-bit gray
> scale
> setting is needed for photographs or PCB layouts. Above all, do not
> scan
> any black-and-white images as color images. 
> 
> Finally, all pages should be oriented as 11 inches high, regardless of
> viewing aspect. This will permit the PDF to be printed on a commercial
> roll
> printer, reproducing the original in exactly the same size and format
> as the
> hard copy that was scanned. 
> 
> Unless every page of a manual is 8.5 by 11 inches, take it to a
> commercial
> graphics house for a professional scanning job.
> 
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin L.
> Naber
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:39 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning
> (digitize to
> PDF)
> 
> For those whom are scanning manuals, what program is used to mosaic
> the
> larger foldouts into one 'page'? If someone says GIMP, then I'm game!
> 
> I have several manuals that will be copied and then probably recycled,
> so I'd like to know what folks are doing...
> 
> ~Benjamin, KB9LFZ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[Joe]

My HP PSC2410 Photosmart all-in-one Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier came with 
software that will scan something into many formats, including PDF 
files.  The only thing I find is that the size of the PDF file is rather 
large.

73, Joe, K1ike

Benjamin L. Naber wrote:
> Thanks to those whom commented. I like the idea of being able to have
> someone else spend time on scanning manuals instead of me for a little
> money. However, it's also good to know how to do it myself when I have
> only one or two items as a time.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] manual and service manual scanning (digitize to PDF)

[Mike Morris]

At 12:51 PM 02/20/10, you wrote:
>Thanks to those whom commented. I like the idea of being able to have
>someone else spend time on scanning manuals instead of me for a little
>money.

Some of the former Kinkos stores (now "Fedex Office") have the wide
scanners, some don't.
Kinkos got started in the 1980s by putting copier centers around
the Cal State university campuses, and then later on they added
a bunch of the larger community colleges.  Then they expanded
nation wide.
I've found that the store nearest to a campus (in my case, the one
nearest to Cal Tech) has the equipment.

In the past when I've been asked about finding a large format scanner
or printers I just tell folks to look in the yellow pages for Kinkos stores,
then to call them and ask if they have the scanner and roll feed printer.
If that particular store does not, they know which one does.

Or look for blueprint shops. If the Kinkos shop equipment is down I use
a blueprint shop that I found by asking a small architectural firm who
they use for roll feed printing.  I called them up and they charge for
scanning or printing by the square foot.
They handle USB flash ("thumb" or "pen") drives, CDs, or even bring in a
USB or Firewire interfaced hard drive.

Every place I've talked to will do individual pages out of a file.  As an
example, a while back I walked into a shop with a flash drive that had
one file on it (just to make it easy for them) and had them print twelve
specific pages out of a 50 page document on their roll feed printer.

>However, it's also good to know how to do it myself when I have
>only one or two items as a time.

Stitching software is always a last resort.  And as Eric said, use the
smallest file format possible - monochrome if you can, grey scale is
a second choice, color as a last resort.
If it's a color-coded PCB layout (pink for one side, grey for the other,
black for both) there's not much you can do.

>One of these days I hope to see a manual library on a website...
>I will certainly offer all the manuals in PDF that I have.

And  isn't just that?

Where else do you find complete ACC, AEA, Astron, ComSpec,
CAT Auto, Connect Systems, CCP, E.F. Johnson, GE, GLB,
Hamtronics, Icom,  Kenwood, Midland, Motorola, Radio Shack,
Regency / Relm, Ritron, Scom, Spectrum, Standard, Tait, Uniden,
Yaesu/Vertex, and Zetron manuals in PDF ?

Or antenna system products by AEA, Andrew, Cellwave, Decibel,
Phelps-Dodge, Sinclair, Telewave, TX-RX, Wacom ?

Not to mention test equipment by Bird, Boonton, Cushman, DSI,
Heath, Helper, Hewlett-Packard, IFR, Marconi, Ramsey, Tektronix,
Triplett, and Wavetek ?

>~Benjamin, KB9LFZ

Mike WA6ILQ



>On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 12:24 -0800, Eric Lemmon wrote:
> >
> > Benjamin,
> >
> > There is no need to mosaic anything. The key is to use a commercial
> > scanner
> > that has a throat of at least 48", so that long foldout sheets can be
> > scanned in one pass directly into PDF. Such machines are very
> > expensive,
> > and would normally be found only at a commercial graphics house. It is
> > not
> > a good idea to scan long pages into segments that later must be taped
> > or
> > somehow pieced together. Mention has been made of "stitching" the
> > pieces
> > back together using special software, but this is unnecessary if the
> > original had been scanned in one piece. Besides, I have never found
> > such
> > software to be either 100% effective or reasonably priced. The free
> > Adobe
> > Reader package includes a great feature, called the "SnapShot Tool."
> > Depending upon the Reader version, this may appear on the toolbar as a
> > camera inside of a box, or it may be in the Tools drop-down menu. If
> > all
> > you want is a portion of a long foldout schematic, simply select that
> > portion with the SnapShot Tool cursor, and it will be copied to your
> > Clipboard. You can then print out that detail on a standard page
> > printer.
> >
> > Another issue is that a line drawing, such as a schematic diagram,
> > should be
> > scanned directly into PDF to maintain high quality and a reasonable
> > size.
> > Image formats such as GIF, TIFF, and JPEG are great for color pictures
> > but
> > are not appropriate for line drawings. When an image has but two bits,
> > either 0 or 1, it is a huge waste of file space to scan it as if it
> > had
> > 16,000,000 colors. Adobe Acrobat Professional software includes
> > drivers
> > that seamlessly interface with commercial scanners. When scanning
> > pages
> > directly into PDF, use the line drawing setting unless the 8-bit gray
> > scale
> > setting is needed for photographs or PCB layouts. Above all, do not
> > scan
> > any black-and-white images as color images.
> >
> > Finally, all pages should be oriented as 11 inches high, regardless of
> > viewing aspect. This will permit the PDF to be printed on a commercial
> > roll
> > printer, reproducing the original in exactly the same size and format
> > as the
> > hard copy that was scanned.
> >
> > Unless every page