[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense Problem on 222 MHz Repeater

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

One issue may very well be the insufficient isolation considering the TX
power level.  If you really want to run that much power I'd highly recommend
having bandpass filter(s) between the PA and the duplexer - this will help
reduce broadband noise from the PA.  Bandpass filter(s) between the receiver
and the duplexer can't hurt either - especially if you're using a pre-amp on
the receiver.  Oh, another thing - if the receiver natively has a
sensitivity of .2uV or better the pre-amp may not help anything but raise
the noise floor.  If this repeater site is relatively close to (within
several miles) of a TV channel 12 or 13 (analog or digital) I'd STRONGLY
recommend installing a window filter on the antenna side of the duplexer.
The window filter will greatly reduce the "out of band" signal levels for
both the transmitter & receiver which will reduce and/or eliminate any IMD
issues from those sources.  DCI is one manufacturer of window filters for
HAM bands (www.dci.ca).

 

Some folks get all weird about inserting so many filters because they don't
"want all that loss."  What they don't realize is even with an additional
3dB of IL if it lowers the noise floor for the repeater "system" by 20dB
you've made a HUGE improvement in the overall performance.  Also, by having
250W transmit power you can easily take a hit and still have a respectable
ERP.

 

Good luck and remember.your mileage may vary.

 

73

Richard

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense Problem on 222 MHz Repeater

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

Yeah, of course you'd want to order any filter optimized for your
application.  Yes, DCI markets products for the Amateur market but they also
have a lot of products for commercial markets.  I have indeed used some of
their products (HAM & commercial) and have had very good results.  Hi-Q
bandpass cavities is absolutely the best thing for frequency specific
filtering between the TX & RX ports of a duplexer and the transmitter &
receiver but a "window" filer is going to be more appropriate for the
antenna side of the duplexer.  DCI is not the only one out there that makes
window filters either.  If you're going to use split antennas a window
filter would not be needed.

As I think a couple of others have already mentioned a spectrum analyzer is
a necessary tool in today's RF environment to make sure you're being a good
"RF neighbor" as well as finding external sources of IMD too.

Richard


"Nate Duehr" wrote:

Careful. I've looked over their product line and their stock filters 
have published SWR numbers that don't look good for high 147 and low 145 
repeaters... they tend to be made for the center of the band for the 
end-users, not for repeaters.

The skirts on even their 4 MHz wide filters start to roll off if your 
machines are at either end of the spectrum.

Check carefully if you choose to use their filters, or call them and ask 
them if they'd tune them lower/higher (probably for a charge).

Better yet, buy big, real, high-Q bandpass cavities and don't mess 
around with these little things made for hams at home.

Nate WY0X

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Super Stationmaster Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

Joe,

 

If you look at the PDF from the link that was provided you'll find that it
IS the spec sheet for the 220-2 which is the 142-150MHz version of the Super
Stationmaster antenna.  The 25-299.9 frequency reference you're seeing is
the "category" of antennas that Celwave is putting this antenna in since
it's a VHF band antenna (VHF - 25-299.9 MHz).  Look further down on the PDF
document and you'll find the specific specifications for the 142-150 MHz
version.  No, I'm not aware of a lowband Super Stationmaster antenna but
they do have other models of antennas for lowband that are in the same
25-299.9 category.  The other link showed the various versions of the Super
Stationmaster denoted by the different suffixes (220-1, 220-2, etc.).

 

Regards,

 

Richard

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor low band base

[Richard D. Reese]

Go to http://www.krecoantennas.com/products.htm  Great antennas - extreamly
rugged etc.


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor low band base


> Bob,
>  Does Herb have a web site for his antennas? I'd like to take a look at
what
> he has. Thanks!
>
> Kevin
> K2KMB





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 1.2 ghz repeater

[Richard W. Solomon]

Try 902 MHz, lots of commercial gear available at much less cost. Check out the
Yahoo group AR902MHZ.

73, Dick, W1KSZ
902.1375/927.1375 131.8 PL

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 1.2 ghz repeater

who makes  1.2  ghz  equipment for repeater  usage , im drawing a  blank and
web searches   arnt  proving helpful either ...

Russ
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] New-be and question(s)

[Richard W. Solomon]

I think he's referring to Cordless Phones.

Dick, W1KSZ

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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:13 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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"Jim B." wrote:

> Mr. Edgar McKinney wrote:
> > Interesting. Where can one find 900 frequencies avaliable that is
not
> > took up by cell phones? Also Where can I find the 900 Mcs equipment vs
1200
> > Mcs?
> >
> > Ed
> >
>
> HUH??? Cell phones aren't on 900! They stop at 890-something. The ham
> band is 902-927.
> --
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL

I'm wondering why I'm hearing them on the HAM's 900 band.

I'm using a receiver that is designed to go from 100 Kcs to 1500 Mcs. Its a
HP
spectrascope tied into a demod unit for radio work.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola 16 Pin Accessory Plug Part # Digi-Key

[Richard W. Solomon]

It's on Batlabs site

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola 16 Pin Accessory Plug Part # Digi-Key

Does anyone have the Digi-Key Part Numbers for the 16 Pin plug that 
fits the back of the Motorola Maxtrac and the pins that fit the plug. 
I remember seeing the information posted, but I cannot find it.
Thanks in advance.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeaters

[Richard W. Solomon]

Sounds like "Restraint of Trade" to me.
Where are the Lawyers when you need them !!

Dick, W1KSZ

-Original Message-
From: Maire Company [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:20 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeaters



Well as a Kenwood when I got my contract with them it gave the area I can
sell in.  If I am selling out of my area they can STOP selling to me.  I
have seen that happen to people in the past.  Also to sell Kenwood products
there is a bout a 32 page contract I had to fill out.  They make a very good
product and happy to sell it.   I have in the past seen a number of dealers
of equipment removed from selling it just because given 30 days notice and
you are out.   Even companies like JBL, Shure, Medeco, C&K, are also some
that do that.  Also  Kenwood can require you to go through the local dealer
for repair even to send in the unit and to get a RMA #, if the local does
not want to work with you then where are you?  It may get repaired but sit
on his shelf for weeks before he sends it in.   There is a little discount
you get for volume but if you buy from you local dealer it may help him get
it so he can pass it on to you,  ever think of that?

thanks for my .02

dealer for Kenwood, Vertex, Maxon, Midland, EF Johnson  and soon Icom
(all in Florida and some in East TN also)

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeaters


>
> [SNIP]
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeaters
> >
> > WRONG WRONG WRONG. The ONLY legit way to buy  *new* Kenwood LMR
> > equipment is through one of the dealers listed on the website. They can
> > direct you to a more local dealer if you wish (what you get is a
> > regional dealer), but Kenwood has a policy in place that it's dealers
> > are NOT allowed to sell outside of their assigned area, and NOT direct
> > sales on the internet, to protect their dealers. It is also important to
> > work face-to-face with the staff. Support your local businesses! They
> > are the backbone of the industry!
> >
>
> Under Federal LAW. I as a person or business can purchase anything from
> anybody that has stock, regardless of where they are.
>
> Kenwood knows this and does not push the issue.
>
> If I do not want to purchase from a local dealer (for any reason,
including
> no reason) I can. Kenwood may not like it, but that is the LAW. They
> (Kenwood) can not make me purchase from a local dealer, and they must
honor
> the warranty. The local dealer to me can refuse to honor the warranty, but
> not Kenwood.
>
> Charles Miller
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeaters

[Richard W. Solomon]

Good reasons = $

Instead of helping out the Amateur community, who on that rare occasion
does perform some valuable public service, they would just as soon gouge
everyone equally.

They just don't understand the market and good will they could generate.
How many repeater users would like to use a nice new repeater instead
of some cobbled up pile of obsolete radios ??

End of rant, I now go back to building another 902 repeater from someones
castoff radios.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

-Original Message-
From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:08 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeaters


Maire Company wrote:

> Well as a Kenwood when I got my contract with them it gave the area I can
> sell in.  If I am selling out of my area they can STOP selling to me.  I
> have seen that happen to people in the past.  Also to sell Kenwood
products
> there is a bout a 32 page contract I had to fill out.  They make a very
good
> product and happy to sell it.   I have in the past seen a number of
dealers
> of equipment removed from selling it just because given 30 days notice and
> you are out.   Even companies like JBL, Shure, Medeco, C&K, are also some
> that do that.  Also  Kenwood can require you to go through the local
dealer
> for repair even to send in the unit and to get a RMA #, if the local does
> not want to work with you then where are you?  It may get repaired but sit
> on his shelf for weeks before he sends it in.   There is a little discount
> you get for volume but if you buy from you local dealer it may help him
get
> it so he can pass it on to you,  ever think of that?
>
> thanks for my .02
>
> dealer for Kenwood, Vertex, Maxon, Midland, EF Johnson  and soon Icom
> (all in Florida and some in East TN also)
>

BTW-Motorola and M/A-Com have similar policies. And for good reason.

--
Jim Barbour
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] vertex 5000- pl decode

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

Dennis,

Yes, you can utilize the VXR5000's internal CTCSS decoder with an external
controller.  CAT even has instructions on how to interface it.

http://www.catauto.com/notes/note06.html

Regards,

Richard


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] vertex 5000- pl decode


The local club has a vertex-5000 vhf 25 watt repeater using a 
cat300dx fer a controller. With SERA requiring all repeaters to have 
tone access to be coordinated, the club wants to add tone access. The 
question is, Can you use the decoder in the vertex and have 
capability to turn it on/off with the cat-300dx (if yes how do u wire 
it) or is it better to go ahead and add a ts t-64 wired directly to 
the cat-300dx?
I've been told the repeater itself has both a builtin controller and 
decoder. Can they be used seperatly???

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Waaaaaayy off topic, Bluegrass Festival at W3KKC's

[Richard D. Reese]

Kevin;

Keep up the good work.  Unfortunately Charmaine and I can't make it.  We 
love BG but are going to be at the Yankee Peddler Fest in CanalFulton Ohio 
next weekend.  We will have the camper over at the campground.  Everyone is 
welcome to stop by for R&R.

We will be monitoring the repeaters 1292.200, 927.5375, 444.200, 146.685 and 
146.58 simplex.

The calendar is marked for next years BG festival.  Let me know when you 
have finalized a date.

73
Richard D. Reese
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater

[Richard W. Solomon]

Systems stops at the TKR-850, no TKR-902's ??

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Not any more, only links to TKR 750/850 family

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Go to the systems portion on the site..you'll then see the 900 repeaters.


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater

[Richard W. Solomon]

It says to ..."dial in the FCC Channel Number"...
Not very useful for Ham use (39 MHz split).
Unless they will provide a new EPROM for 25 MHz split.

Any idea on pricing ??

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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http://www.maceinconline.com/kenwood/repeaters/900_repeater_transceiver.html


Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
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Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:42 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater

I went to the Kenwood site to find what repeaters they have, and all I did
find were 145mcs and 444 mcs repeaters. No mention about 902s.

What are the model numbers are you folks talkin about?

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] need help securing schematic for PS.

[Richard MI Ranta]

Hello folks!
I am hoping that someone might be able to help us. Our Astron RS-35M power
supply died, and we can't find the schematic. Our E-mail going to Astron is
being returned!!!
If any of you can help us out, that would be great.
Thanks and enjoy the beautiful weekend.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] need help securing schematic for PS.

[Richard MI Ranta]

Thanks a bundle!!
This should help us out.  I knew I should always turn to professionals.
Thanks
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[Repeater-Builder] Need 1C ICOM

[Richard D. Reese]

I need a 1C  ICOM - The one used in my repeater TX on 927.5375 has 
gone bad.  Let me know if anyone has a spare that they are willing to sell 
or trade.
 
Thanks in advance
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2747

[Richard Marlin, Chief]

>

Dear group,  I am sure this has been covered before

with a new DB 224,  what is the proper way to off set the elements ?
were in the middle of a long island and want 50 / 50 coverage with two bays 
pointing north and two bays pointing south.
a fellow ham told us, one one way one the other was wrong even though I have 
always seen them installed that way.
He says the two bays on the same phasing harness should aim the same direction 
and then the two others, on the second harness should point the other way.
Would someone please straighten us out ?
Thanks,  K4HAT





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] replacement mini-uhf connector for Maxtrac

[Richard W. Solomon]

Some folks screw in a BNC connector.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Can someone tell me if there is a non-motorola replacement for the 
female mini-uhf connector on the back of a maxtrac?

Thanks,
Sean





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] More goodies from storage for sale:)

[Richard W. Solomon]

What band are the Maxtracs on ??

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] More goodies from storage for sale:)


Hello List.

The following is up for sale, no resonable offers will
be refused.

1.) Vertex VXR-5000 (1 ea) 25 watt continuos duty
Version (B) model VHF 146 - 160 mhz repeater with
120vac on board power & DC backup switching. First
owner in excellent condition. No other accessories
come with this unit, no programming cable, software,
manual or duplexer.
This is unit #2 of 2 which has been offered to this
list. The other one sold.
Aking price of $500.00 o.b.o.

2.) Motorola Maxtrac 32 channel mobile rigs, I have 4
each from storage, no accessories included i.e. mic,
pwr cable or mounting bracket. All radios read with
RSS software 0 - 320, which leds me to believe these
units are loaded.

Set Price of $75.00 per unit. (no dealers please)

3.) Polomar 225 Amp (1 ea) nos in the box. 10 - 40
meters "I think).

Asking price of $100.00 o.b.o.

4.) Motorola R-100 UHF (1 ea) model Q2932 2 watt
repeater with onboard DPL, no duplexer or software
stuff.

Asking price $175.00 o.b.o

5.) Uniden 900 mhz (3 ea) units unknown condition but
will do Ham 902 & trunking from what I'm told. Model #
SMS935TS. DTMF mic, Radio & mounting bracket supplied.

Asking price $ 75.00 o.b.o.

Lastly, one more PA has been pulled from storage.

6.) 1 each RF Gain PA with a working range of 440 -
470 @ 80 watts with a minimum drive of 4 - 10 watts
granteed to work. This unit was tested and will be
working upon delivery.

Asking price of $200.00 o.b.o.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Doug Hall RBI-1 question

[Richard D. Reese]

Ken;

I have a DH that feed remotes on 146, 222, 440, and 1292 and have on 
occasion had them get confused.  This has always been after a hit on the 
power prior to my installing battery backup.  When the reset is don all it 
will do is default the DH RBI-1 to the first remote.  In my case the 2 meter 
one.

When an inquiry is done and the controller responds with, in your case, 
146.520 the remote will be placed on 146.520.  Also if a reset command is 
sent to the controller it will also place the remote on the default 
frequency.   I use a Link Communications RLC-3.


Richard D. Reese
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 5:23 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Doug Hall RBI-1 question


>
> When one does a reset on an RBI-1, does it actually set the controlled
> radio to a known freq or does the RBI-1 simply read the current contents,
> in order to sync?
>
> In other words, let's say the controlled radio is currently set to 
> 146.520.
> Is that where it is left after the re-sync?
>
> Ken





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

[Richard W. Solomon]

Lawyers ??
 

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:41 
  AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comCc: 
  ScottSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax 
  Question
  Thanks AllSounds like I'd better go with some 
  sort of hard line for my between unit RF interconnects to keep between 
  cable leakage to tolerable limitsand probably noise too. But this brings 
  up another issue: forgetting about noise for the moment ---how can a 214 type 
  cable which is listed as 97-98% shielded have lower leakage (desense problems) 
  than a foil cable listed as 100% shielded?
   
  The big question---what is the most 
  economical combination of small diameter hard line and an "N" compatible 
  connector assembly?is there something that can be done with say 1/4" 
  superflex and the affordable solder through the holes teflon "N" connector 
  that is similar to the 259 "UHF" connector?what is the best way to 
  go?
   
  And another---I've seen military microwave 
  gear interconnected with hardline less than 1/4" diameter ---smooth 
  tubing---with soldered on "N" connectors-like is used in mobile helical 
  duplexers-is this system suitable and where does it come 
from?
   
  Thanks much, 73
  Scott, N6NXI
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Scott 
Overstreet 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Cc: Scott Overstreet 
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 5:44 
PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax 
Question

OK guys ---I hear you all saying that 
hard line is better but none of you have said what is the actual problem 
with 9913 flex or LMR-400. In other words---What is wrong with a quality 
foil under braid "100%"shielded foam cable and I'm assuming use between 
receiver and  duplexer, transmitter and duplexer and duplexer and 
antenna?
 
 And then the next question that follows 
is that inside a cabinet full of stuff where 1/2 inch hard line is just to 
stiff -what do you suggest ---and in this case assume that we are 
talking about three or four repeatersyes, receivers, transmitters, 
isolators and duplexers all in the same rack cabinet?
 
Scott
N6NXI













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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller madness (whiz' bang - sparkle!)

[Richard W. Solomon]

Why do all these new cars look like "rice boxes" ??

73, Dick, W1KSZ

-Original Message-
From: Tedd Doda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Dec 8, 2004 11:14 AM
To: "Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com" 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: controller madness (whiz' bang - sparkle!)


On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:02:45 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>They are so UN-cool.

I agree Garynothing beats the sound of an North
American small block V-8 (overhead cams really help!).

Just one for example:

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mustang/launch

Makes me want to sell my '78 Mustang and Windstar :)



Tedd Doda, VE3TJD

Lazer Audio and Electronics
Baden, Ontario, Canada





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

[Richard D. Reese]

There are 11 channels used as the standard for 802.11b/g.

They are:

Chan 1  2412 GHz
Chan 2  2417 GHz
Chan 3  2422 GHz
Chan 4  2427 GHz
Chan 5  2432 GHz
Chan 6  2437 GHz
Chan 7  2442 GHz
Chan 8  2447 GHz
Chan 9  2452 GHz
Chan 102457 GHz
Chan 112462 GHz

Channels 1 through 8 fall in the Amateur band of 2390 to 2450 GHz.   

73

Richard D. Reese
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless


> 
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:26:21 -0500, Kevin Custer wrote:
> 
>>however feel free to discuss the 
>>technical nature of the subject in any detail here.
> 
> Hi Kevin:
> 
> A bunch of us were thinking about setting up a Ham
> radio only network here near Kitchener. Can you give
> any details on the "reprogramming" of the hardware?
> 
> Does this have to be done by the manufacturer or can
> it be done by the user. Please recommend any hardware
> that can be made to work.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Tedd Doda, VE3TJD





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

[Richard D. Reese]

Just use an encryption key and they will be quite secure from anyone not 
authorized.  If you have 2.4 GHz phones or video links in use you may have 
to hunt for a channel that is not prone to interference.  Probably one of 
the higher frequencies.

Richard D. Reese
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless


>
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:24:17 -0500, Richard D. Reese wrote:
>
>>Channels 1 through 8 fall in the Amateur band of 2390 to 2450 GHz.
>
> Thanks for clearing that up Richard. I was under
> the impression that we had some frequencies that were
> not available for the general public.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless

[Richard D. Reese]

Nate is correct in that the frequencies listed were the center freq of each 
channel.  There are 14 channels.  And yes, I forgot the decimal.  Oh well I 
am old as well as tired.  The channels overlap each other in that they are 
22 MHz wide ( NO decimal)  One can do the math and see which channels edge 
falls outside the Amateur band if you wish but if you do not run an 
amplifier, who cares.

If my memory serves me 802.11 concept began in the late 80's and there were 
two forms approved by the FCC.  One was DSSS (Direct Sequenced Spread 
Spectrum) that is used today and the other was FHSS (Frequency Hopping 
Spread Spectrum)  that consisted of 75 channels spaced 1 MHz apart and 
traffic jumped between those channels.  In 1999 the industry selected 
802.11b as the standard with its max 11 Mbps.  Of course we now have 
everyone pushing the 802.11g that have a maximum of 54 Mbps but we seem to 
forget that many access points use 10 base T Ethernet connections so you are 
limited to 10 Mbps anyway.  Remember as the signal gets noise due to low 
signal strength the speed is decreased.  I use 802.11g but often have only 
Mbps speed due to low signal strength.  Still pretty fast as I have seen T1 
that was only slightly higher is speed.

With a good antenna it possible to get amazing distance.  I have sent video 
with p1 picture to my brother Jim,KA8HAK over in Akron 16 miles from me.  I 
was using 1 watt into 140 feet of 7/8 hard line to a 3 foot dish at 85 feet. 
He was using a home brew 44 element linier yagi on a tripod 7 feet in the 
air fed with LMR400!

Until last year I had an FM repeater (2.411200 out / 2.431200 GHz in) on the 
air.  It also ran 1 watt and had a 20 meg split.  Worked pretty good but 
there were only three of us that could transmit.  Jim KZ5AW, my brother Jim 
KA8HAK, and myself.  Perhaps one day I will put it back on if equipment 
become more reasonable and others become interested.  Oh well - enough of 
the rambling and at least I said something about repeaters..

73

P.S.  Nate, I am glad I gave you a laugh at the no decimal.  One of my goals 
is to make someone laugh each day even if they are only laughing at me!  It 
was a good day as is most of them..

Rich  WA8DBW
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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From: "Nate Duehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 802.11b wireless


>
> Careful!  That channelization map only shows the CENTER frequency of the
> direct-sequence spread-spectrum "channel" you're using.  I believe Mr.
> Reese is incorrect in his statement that channels 7 and 8 are in the ham
> band.
>
> Each "channel" overlaps the "channels" around it -- they're wide.
>
> (Our old pal Nyquist's pesky theorem might point out that there's not
> enough bandwidth between from say, 2417 to 2427 to do a 11Mb/s data
> stream on Channel 3, and that's assuming you would run right up against
> channels 2 and 4.  But, I sure as hell can't do the math without having
> had any coffee yet today!)
>
> The access points just deal with the interference they cause each
> other.  When you're laying them out for use in an office building, you
> pick patterns that use 1, 6 and 11 to keep all the AP's out of each
> other's hair.
>
> Channels 1, 6, and 11 are the only "channels" that don't overlap each
> other in the U.S., so channel 1 extends up through Channel 3 (and below
> channel 1 down to just above 2400 MHz), and Channel 6 extends downward
> to Channel 4 and upward to channel 8.
>
> So the highest usable "channel" if you want to operate as a Part 97
> station is Channel 6 if I didn't screw up my math.  Or the top portion
> of your signal will be out of the ham allocation.  ;-)
>
> I got a kick out of the 24XX "GHz" label too... that's pretty high! 
> (GRIN)
>
> Nate WY0X
>
> JOHN MACKEY wrote:
>
>>It should be noted, also, that the channels are overlapping on each other.
>>The only channel setup that would NOT be overlaping it using channels 1,6, 
>>&
>>11.
>>
>>There are also channels 12, 13, & 14 but they are not authorized in the 
>>US.





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 600 - 10k ohm Interface

[Richard W. Solomon]

Way 
back when, we just used a 6 vac fil xfmr. Worked pretty fair as I 
recall.
You 
can always get fancy later.
 

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

  -Original Message-From: Kevin & Natalia 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 6:14 
  PMTo: Repeaters Users Group; Repeater Builder Users 
  GroupSubject: [Repeater-Builder] 600 - 10k ohm 
  Interface
  Hi All,
   
  I need a simple interface for a 600 ohm output radio to a controller 
  which accepts 10k ohm.
  This is a RX not TX.
   
  I don't want to make a circuit board if I don't need to.
   
  Any ideas?
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cushman CE-4

[Richard W. Solomon]

I bought a CE-31A on e-Bay for $225, then saw one go at "Deerchester" for
$125 (sob !!).

73, Dick, W1KSZ

-Original Message-
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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cushman CE-4



I just bought a CE-5 on ebay for $205.46, the last one from the same 
guy when for $199.  He has yet another one up for auction now.  In 
the picture it looks to be in good condition, but I haven't received 
it yet ...  a bit of buyer remorse is already starting to set in. I 
use to use a CE-3, they are not small or light.  I also don't want 
to admit how many times I rebuild the attenuator pad!

I saw an IFR 1100A go for $500 just before I started looking, that 
strikes me as a much better deal. More recent IFRs have been going 
for 1k+.  YMMV.

73's Skip WB6YMH
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Passmore" 
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> Anyone have an idea what a fair price for a Cushamn CE-4 Service 
Monitor 
> would be?
> 
> Thanks,
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

[Richard W. Solomon]

The only problem I see is that most (like the NHRC-2) require a 16
button DTMF pad. I have yet to see a 902 HT that has one.
I switched to a Zetron 37, much easier to program.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

-Original Message-
From: DCFluX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:29 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers



As a controller designer I can recommend the following:

For a single stand alone repeater: NHRC-2 
This controller is an excelent value featuring real voice storage.

For a repeater with a link port: NHRC-4
No voice, CW only. But it will run a remote base or link radio and is
cheap so who cares?

For multiple links/repeaters: Arcom RC-210
Features upgradeable in the field firmware and individual DTMF
decoders for all three ports, plus PL decoder logic inputs.  Also
includes a big ISD voice storage chip for a nice package all the way
around. I don't own one personally, but have interacted with a couple
in the past 6 months to know they are designed extremlly well, with
about the only thing I don't like is some of the status LED's
occasionally have a slight glow when not active, but if this doesn't
bother you...

Featuring an autopatch: NHRC-10
Basicly take a NHRC-2, NHRC-4 and slap on an autopatch and add more
speech storage and other stuff. This will also interface with certain
radios to provide frequency agile remotes.



Controllers to stay away from:

I've tried ICS a time or two and didn't really like it.  I have an ICS
linker and it is a pain to program. kinda buggy too, When you change
the CW ID speed the inter character spacing still stays at about
10WPM, Very humorous. Gonna replace it with a NHRC-4 when I get around
to it.

CAT-300's have good autopatches, but that is about it. Their software
is buggy too.  Known to skip letters in the voice ID's unless they
re-wrote it, and it is still that same old school texas instruments
voice from the speak and spell days.  Also they will not release their
coding wanting approx $100 to send eproms for a upgrade. I have heard
If you have a friend with a "DX" version you can clone its prom and
change out the clock module and swap a jumper to transform a plain 300
to a 300DX. Programming is a pain, if you forget one charector you
have to start over on a ID string "Keypad data error", unless you pony
up the $60 for the programming software.  I have no experience with
their other controllers though, so take a chance!

CES, Need I say more?



Middle of the road:

ACC RC-850's are just plain cool! But generate alot of RFI. Plus the
company is out of buisness so it is a act of congress to find one
living and breathing and if it breaks, it ususally stays broken unless
you wan't to spend the $250 to send it to "The Guy". Programming is
fairly easy with the message editior and most of the commands work
without ABCD touch tones. It is back to the speak and spell days
unless you have a functioning DVR, but on the plus side it can
generate DTMF tones in the courtesy tone generator, you will spend
countless hours driving your local channel cops insane as you play hip
hop DJ and change CT's just cause you can!


Remember: These are my opinions only and you should not base your
buying decision soley on them.




 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

[Richard W. Solomon]

I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

-Original Message-
From: Coy Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers




If you don't have a 16 button keypat you don't have a full pad. also 
you can download a simple dialer that generates DTMF from the sound 
card of a pc and you can use it to program the NHRC2 OR ANYTHING 
ELSE THAT TAKES DTMF and the program is free...there are many. You 
can even store DTMF strings for sending complete commands from one 
button.
73
AC0Y


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Richard W. Solomon" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only problem I see is that most (like the NHRC-2) require a 16
> button DTMF pad. I have yet to see a 902 HT that has one.
> I switched to a Zetron 37, much easier to program.
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: DCFluX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:29 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
> 
> 
> 
> As a controller designer I can recommend the following:
> 
> For a single stand alone repeater: NHRC-2 
> This controller is an excelent value featuring real voice storage.
> 
> For a repeater with a link port: NHRC-4
> No voice, CW only. But it will run a remote base or link radio and 
is
> cheap so who cares?
> 
> For multiple links/repeaters: Arcom RC-210
> Features upgradeable in the field firmware and individual DTMF
> decoders for all three ports, plus PL decoder logic inputs.  Also
> includes a big ISD voice storage chip for a nice package all the 
way
> around. I don't own one personally, but have interacted with a 
couple
> in the past 6 months to know they are designed extremlly well, with
> about the only thing I don't like is some of the status LED's
> occasionally have a slight glow when not active, but if this 
doesn't
> bother you...
> 
> Featuring an autopatch: NHRC-10
> Basicly take a NHRC-2, NHRC-4 and slap on an autopatch and add more
> speech storage and other stuff. This will also interface with 
certain
> radios to provide frequency agile remotes.
> 
> 
> 
> Controllers to stay away from:
> 
> I've tried ICS a time or two and didn't really like it.  I have an 
ICS
> linker and it is a pain to program. kinda buggy too, When you 
change
> the CW ID speed the inter character spacing still stays at about
> 10WPM, Very humorous. Gonna replace it with a NHRC-4 when I get 
around
> to it.
> 
> CAT-300's have good autopatches, but that is about it. Their 
software
> is buggy too.  Known to skip letters in the voice ID's unless they
> re-wrote it, and it is still that same old school texas instruments
> voice from the speak and spell days.  Also they will not release 
their
> coding wanting approx $100 to send eproms for a upgrade. I have 
heard
> If you have a friend with a "DX" version you can clone its prom and
> change out the clock module and swap a jumper to transform a plain 
300
> to a 300DX. Programming is a pain, if you forget one charector you
> have to start over on a ID string "Keypad data error", unless you 
pony
> up the $60 for the programming software.  I have no experience with
> their other controllers though, so take a chance!
> 
> CES, Need I say more?
> 
> 
> 
> Middle of the road:
> 
> ACC RC-850's are just plain cool! But generate alot of RFI. Plus 
the
> company is out of buisness so it is a act of congress to find one
> living and breathing and if it breaks, it ususally stays broken 
unless
> you wan't to spend the $250 to send it to "The Guy". Programming is
> fairly easy with the message editior and most of the commands work
> without ABCD touch tones. It is back to the speak and spell days
> unless you have a functioning DVR, but on the plus side it can
> generate DTMF tones in the courtesy tone generator, you will spend
> countless hours driving your local channel cops insane as you play 
hip
> hop DJ and change CT's just cause you can!
> 
> 
> Remember: These are my opinions only and you should not base your
> buying decision soley on them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

[Richard W. Solomon]

Try programming DE W1KSZ/R in a NHRC-2.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

-Original Message-
From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:25 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers



Richard W. Solomon wrote:
> I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
> but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
> to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
> But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
> Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ 

What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham 
controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

[Richard W. Solomon]

I guess you guys weren't following the thread that closely.
Programming an NHRC-2 on a 902 repeater using a GTX.
Unless you know of a 902 HT with a 16 button pad ??

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

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Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:49 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Buy a new radio. What are you using?  Sounds like a Motorola HT-220
with a 12 digit keypad added on.


On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:36:45 -0500, Richard W. Solomon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Try programming DE W1KSZ/R in a NHRC-2.
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:25 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
> 
> Richard W. Solomon wrote:
> > I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
> > but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
> > to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
> > But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
> > Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
> >
> > 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
> What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham
> controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
> --
> Jim Barbour
> WD8CHL
> 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers

[Richard W. Solomon]

If you use a Yaesu HT then fine.
But, not many commercial HT's have 16 button pads, especially
at 900 MHz.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

-Original Message-
From: Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:34 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers



Mine uses all 16 digits,and I told it to do sowho still messes with 
12 digit pads??? This is the 21st century after all

Mark Holman wrote:

>I know a Repeater that uses the ABCD commands in theirs  and one is speed 
>dial to A A A auto service ? I think they still do !
>Mark Holman  AB8RU
>***  IT Student *
>Happy Holidays
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Controllers
>
>
>  
>
>>Richard W. Solomon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I looked for one of those programs that works on a 486 Laptop,
>>>but couldn't find one that works with what they jokingly refer
>>>to as a sound card at Compaq back then.
>>>But the Zetron only needs a 12 button pad.
>>>Guess I'll wait for the new version from NHRC.
>>>
>>>73, Dick, W1KSZ
>>>  
>>>
>>What's the big deal about 12 vs. 16 button pads? I don't know of any ham
>>controllers that REQUIRE using the fourth column!
>>-- 
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>>WD8CHL
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Outlet for RG214/U

[Richard W. Solomon]

There were a few guys selling LMR-400 in 100 or 200 foot lengths
on e-pay for abot $80 each.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

-Original Message-
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Well I called The RF Connection today, asked for the RG-214U Mil spec, was
told they did not have any in stock, that the Government changed the specs
or something, then tried to sell me RG-214/U and told me it was not Silver
but Copper Coated Tin.  So would the next best thing be the RG-400?

Mathew



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

[Richard W. Solomon]

Get a couple of Motorola Maxtracs, an NHRC-2 Controller and you are set.
EXCEPT, if it's for Public Safety purposes (Fire, Police) then do not
scrimp,
especially if lives may depend on this stuff.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?



Is the best way to have a mobile repeater up and running with two mobile
radios and a duplexer? Looking for a way to be able to run a couple of
repeaters, one VHF, one UHF for a mobile communications van. Can anyone
recommend ways to cut down on weight and space?
Thanks
Dakota

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[Repeater-Builder] DB4056C VHF duplexer

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

I have a DB4056C VHF duplexer if anyone needs it.  It requires a minimum of
2 MHz separation.  Includes rack mount kit & is in excellent condition.

Let me know direct...

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[Repeater-Builder] Sinadder WTD

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All this talk about the Sinadder has me curious. Anyone got one they
want to part with ? Maybe I'll stop using my Simpson 260 !!

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 TX Calibration

[Richard W. Solomon]

Where on the site is it ? I couldn't find it.

73, Dick, W1KSZ 

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It is all available free from motorola Canada in
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pinout needed for the Kenwood PG-4H cable (for RBI-1)

[Richard D. Reese]

Doug still has them available http://www.dheco.com  Simply tell him how many 
you want.

73
Richard D. Reese
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why

[Richard D. Reese]

I have two TX-RX in service on UHF and they are :

28-70-02 (450-470 MHz)
Type: 4 cavities 4" diameter
Freq. spacing  5 MHz
Insertion loss <0.6 dB
Max. continuous power  350 watts
Channel isolation  100+ dB

These spects have been verified on the bench as well.
73
Richard D. Reese
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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> 
> What kind of duplexer has less than a db of loss? (I want one).
> 
> Dave Baughn
> Director of Engineering
> The University of Alabama
> Center for Public Television and Radio
> Box 870150
> Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35487
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Account overdue. Not a good person.

[Richard W. Solomon]

That's it, enough of this BS.
I subscribed here to learn more about building repeaters,
not some bloody soap opera.

Hasta la Vista

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Gee! I can not Speak for Cook as they can answer for them self's but I think
it is because you like to bash folks like Maggiore and I will take up for
good people even you and not sit back like a lump like some.
Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH

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> Why is it that Russ & Cook Towers or Russ & Maggoire are always the center
of
> attention on this forum?
>
> -- Original Message --
> Received: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 05:07:15 PM CST
> From: "Ronny Julian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Account overdue. Not a good person.
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> > > the list. I asked for you to ship the repeater overnight. Kathy Cook
> > > quoted me a price differential of $ 115.65. I paid with my credit
> > > card the amount requested. Three days later she called and said that
> > > UPS was now charging her more than she quoted for the overnight
> > > shipment. I asked her to send me a copy of the invoice and I would
> > > submit it to the County to see if they would pay it. I have now
> > > changed my mind. I will not submit it to the County since you have
> > > now told me that I'm on "the no service list". That's customer
> > > service at its best. You deal with UPS on the issue and please, don't
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> > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:47:15 EST
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> > > >>After reading your hurtful remark on repeater  builders
> > > >>I told my boss. Guess what you are on the no service  list.
> > > >>You owe Cook Towers for a back invoice you have not  paid
> > > >>and they have called you on. It is over 16 days not paid. Bet  you
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> > > >>on repeater builder. Your post I find very hurtful after I  went
> > > >>out of my way to help you! Even late passed 17:00 on one  night
> > > >>to help. I only get paid till 17:00 eastern as Cook closes at  17:00
> > > >>eastern.  As for your wrong pin that came from CAT not  me. Once
> > > >>again your on tape telling me that from CAT. Also it was not  three
> > > >weeks as
> > > >>you stated. Your repeater is just that old.
> > > >>I also have you saying that the Kenwood TKR-850 is working  very
> > > >well and how
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> > > >do not
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> > > >our  concern
> > > >>it is yours and yours alone.
> > > >>We just helped you at no charge because you needed  help.
> > > >>Well if the Kenwood TKR-850 has any problems for the next 2  years
> > > >call us
> > > >>and we will 100% support it. Any thing you did not buy from us I
> > > >wish you well
> > > >>but I (we) will NOT help you on any thing you did not buy from
> > > >here.
> > > >>Dean Westbrook
> > > >>Cook Towers, INC.
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[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

[Richard D. Reese]

Dave;
 
Sorry about that.  The two meter one is a 28-37-02 and 
the specifications are:
 


  
  
Frequency Range 
:
144-174 MHz 
  

  

  
Minimum T-R Separation 
:
0.5 MHz 
  

  

  
Tx Insertion Loss 
:
1.5 dB 
  

  

  
Rx Insertion Loss 
:
1.5 dB 
  

  

  
Transmitter Noise Suppression 
:
85 dB 
  

  

  
Transmitter Carrier Suppression 
:
85 dB 
  

  

  
Between Channel Isolation 
:
50 dB 
  

  

  
Impedance 
:
50 Ohms 
  

  

  
VSWR 
:
1.3:1 
  

  

  
Power Rating 
:
400 W 
  

  
Mechanical 
  
Temperature Range 
:
-40°C to +80°C 
  

  

  
Connectors 
:
TX and RX Ports: N, Antenna Port: N 
  

  

  
Height 
:
33" 
  

  

  
Width 
:
19" 
  

  

  
Depth 
:
±7.5" 
  

  

  
Mechanical Mounting 
:
19" Rack Mount 
  

  

  
Weight 
    :
    50 lbs. 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave Baughn 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:19 
  AM
  Subject: Fwd: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why
  
  But his is VHF with 600 kHz spacing. Must be some giant cans!
   
  Dave BaughnDirector of EngineeringThe University of 
  AlabamaCenter for Public Television and RadioBox 870150Tuscaloosa, 
  Alabama 35487205.348.8622 cell 205-310-8798NEW EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/05 08:41AM 
  >>>I have two TX-RX in service on UHF and they are 
  :28-70-02 (450-470 MHz)Type: 4 cavities 4" diameterFreq. 
  spacing  5 MHzInsertion 
  loss 
  <0.6 dBMax. continuous power  350 
  wattsChannel 
  isolation  100+ 
  dBThese spects have been verified on the bench as 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Member Deleted?

[Richard D. Reese]

Kevin and all;

I am not often moved to post as I try and remember that which was told to me 
as a child - "Richard, you have two ears and one mouth so it would behoove 
you to listen twice as much as you talk.  Also be mindful of the fact that 
the ears are always open and can except input at any time.  However, the 
mouth has a flap on it and it is ok to close it occasionally."   With that 
in mind I will try and be as brief as possible.

I am surprised at the implementation of a poll to decide ones continued 
membership.  I believe the decision should be made by you as the list owner. 
I am of the opinion that whomever is determined to be disruptive to the list 
or, continues to use the list to promote that which is not related to the 
purpose of the list, should be warned to cease and desist.  They should be 
told what the consequences will be in the event they fail to comply.  If 
that person continues then they should be banned from the list.

I liked Doug's posting regarding free speech.  It is refreshing to know that 
in this day of so many being concerned about "political correctness" that 
there are some (Doug Bade) that have not lost site of reality and that which 
is right or wrong when it come to force-feeding ones beliefs and opinions on 
another.

There are many on this list involved in communications as a business.  Doug 
and his dad Cliff W8CJB, own Cleveland Communications and I have never known 
them to exploit their membership in this or any other list as a means to 
promote their business interest.  While we all may be grateful for a 
business owner to mention goods or services that they may be able to provide 
to list members, there is a fine line that should not be crossed except on 
rare occasions.  I believe that line has repeatedly been crossed by some. 
Those that are guilty should be warned one time. As stated in the first 
paragraph, if they continue then banishment is in order.

Now I go back to the listening/reading mode.

73 to all

Rich  WA8DBW


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To: 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Member Deleted?


>
> skipp025 wrote:
>
>>Kevin,
>>Did you delete Russ from the Group or place his posts in moderation 
>>status..?
>>
>>
>
> Neither.  To my knowledge, Russ is still a member and requires no
> moderation activity.
> He did say he was going away for the weekend, which might be the reason
> he stopped posting, or, who knows...
>
> His membership status will be acted upon on April 1, as a result of what
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>
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[Repeater-Builder] 440 4 Pole Antenna

[Richard D. Reese]

I hope Chuck Kelsey sees this - - -  

 
About 15 or twenty years ago there was an article 
published in either Ham Radio or perhaps 73 magazine on the construction of a 
440 4 pole antenna.  It was written by Chuck WB2EDV if my memory is 
correct.
 
I built one for a friend and he has removed it from 
his tower for maintenance.  He is now ready to place it back on the tower 
legs and asked me what the spacing is between elements.  Well I cannot fond 
the paper work.  I think it was 23 inches on center.  Chuck, is that 
correct?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Rich  WA8DBW
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 440 4 Pole Antenna

[Richard D. Reese]

Well, Thanks to Gerald, Mike and of course you 
Chuck.  It is good to know the old memory is still somewhat lucid!  I 
should have known to check Kevin's site - it is such a wealth of 
information.  I looked at the PDF and I wasn't too far off on the date 
September 1987.  Lasted almost 20 years.  Only replacing the harness 
and mounting clamps now. 
 
Chuck, somebody on this list is getting old!!  
And yes I guess I also have never built anything either...
 
73 to all and have a great Easter Weekend.  My 
sister and brother in-law are due to arrive here in a couple of hours.  We 
have an Easter get-together planned so things will get hectic on this 
end.
 
Rich
 
 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chuck Kelsey 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:47 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 440 4 
  Pole Antenna
  
  Yes, you are correct.
   
  But now I have doubts that we actually "built" those 
  antennas ;-)
   
  I had to buy the aluminum rod for the elements and 
  the coax to make the harness instead of manufacturing it from scratch 
  ;-)
   
  Sorry, couldn't resist.
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena

[Richard D. Reese]

Chuck is correct.  The 413 is 18 ft 4 inches long and is rated 12 dB gain 
and rated to survive 1/2 inch ice at 90 mph.

The 411 is 9 ft 5 inches long , 9 dB gain 112 mph wind with 1/2 inch radial 
ice.
The 408 is 6.6 dB gain and will survive with 1/2 ice at 85 mph.
The 420 is 9.2 dB gain 18 ft 1 inch long and rated to withstand 70 mph with 
1/2 inch ice.

They are all good in my opinion.  I have used them all including the DB-404 
and they have survived the NE Ohio winters.  even with the 420 top mounted 
on towers but there is a lot of flex at winds above 60 mph.  I never had an 
antenna bend but did have on installation where the 420 was top mounted and 
the pipe that it was clamped to bent during a storm with gusts in excess of 
70 mph.

As far as which antenna to use - It depends on the installation, HAAT, top 
mount, side mount, omni pattern, etc.

Rich  WA8DBW
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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To: 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena


>
> I think my wife stole my Decibel catalog ;-)
>
> The 413 is 8 elements and the 411 is 4, right?
>
> If you're going to side mount on a tower, use either. If you're going to 
> top
> mount, I prefer the shorter 411. The longer antennas have too much flex in
> the wind to top mount, in my opinion. Others will disagree, but that would
> be my choice.
>
> Chuck
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena

[Richard D. Reese]

Hello John.

Long time no hear.  Are you still at Warner Robins??

What have you been up to?

Give me your phone number and I will give you a call.  Let me know the best 
time.

&3

Dick Reese



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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena


>  The DB 420 works very well top mounted on our 60' Rhon 25 tower.  It has
> bent once at the base of the antenna, but that was in more than 60 mph 
> wind
> gusts. Middle Georgia has lots of gusting winds and tornado activity so 
> that
> probably won't be the last time.
>
>  John
>
>  KU4RW





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena

[Richard D. Reese]

Sorry the last was meant to go direct to John Portz and not the list.


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Good 440 Anttena


>  The DB 420 works very well top mounted on our 60' Rhon 25 tower.  It has
> bent once at the base of the antenna, but that was in more than 60 mph 
> wind
> gusts. Middle Georgia has lots of gusting winds and tornado activity so 
> that
> probably won't be the last time.
>
>  John
>
>  KU4RW
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Part

[Richard D. Reese]

Do you still need a MRF-901?  Let me know.  I still have some in one of the 
parts bins.


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To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Part


>
>
> Hi all, I am looking for a transistor that's in a GLB Preselector-
> Preamp.  This is for the two (2) meter band.  Here's the information
> (best that I can see)   M (batwing) u 901  Thanks in advance





 
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[Repeater-Builder] GLB / MRF-901

[Richard D. Reese]

I have received many requests for the GLB transistor.  I only have two left 
that are not promised.   I will give them to anyone that is willing to make 
a donation to OMIK Scholarship Fund.

The transistor is a BFW92 which is a drop-in replacement for the obsolete 
MRF-901.  I have a PDF data sheet available to anyone requesting it.  I have 
been told that a 2n6621 will also replace the MRF-901 but I have not tried 
that device.


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna

[Richard D. Reese]

Mark;

ASP / Antenna Specialist was purchased by Andrew and the antenna is still a 
production model.  I have used several in amateur as well as commercial 
service.  The specifications sheet is available at : 
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com/ASPD-701.pdf


73
Richard D. Reese
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Specialists Antenna






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO

[Richard D. Reese]

Send me a copy and I will post it on my site in mpeg.

73 Rich



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From: "egrp_reader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:42 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Morse Code Contest on JAY LENO


>I captured it, but it is 150Mbyte!  Sorry but I don't have any fancy
> video authoring tools and figured if someone down the road needed it
> smaller, they could redo it in lower resolution or quality.
> 
> If someone has the space for a large file like that, let me know.
> Please don't ask me to email this to someone, it would probably
> choke my email system.
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Ronny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It is for these guys!  What a show!  I don't think those two kids
> had
>> a bit of a chance!
>> 
>> Did anyone roll tape on that?  A MPEG file uploaded would be really
>> appreciated if you did.





 
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[Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 PL on COS

[Richard D. Reese]

 
I have a TKR-850 that is hooked to an external controller (Link Comm. 
RLC-3) and I want to have CTCSS on COR.  Anyone know where to connect 
to mute the sub-audible tone generated in the TKR-850?  I would like to 
retain the internal CTCSS.  It currently encodes continuously and see 
no programming ability to do anything but continuously or none at 
all..I have the service manual but thought someone could save me some 
time and effort locating the spot.Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VX-5000 Repeater Information

[Richard D. Reese]

Yes and Yes

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From: "Mathew Quaife" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Vertex VX-5000 Repeater Information


> Can anyone tell me if the VX-5000 repeater is programmable, and more 
> important, is the PL tone programmable?  Thanks.
> 
> Mathew
> N9LV
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rig Pix

[Richard D. Reese]

Doug;
 
The call SM0OFV is as follows:
 
Jan Anderson
Jonstropsvagen 4 2tr
SE 171 55 SOLNA
Sweden
Lic Class Klass 1
Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Hope this helps
 
73 Rich
 
By the way sorry I did not have a chance to stop 
when we were in Arizona last month.
 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Doug 
  W7FDF 
  To: Repeater-Builder 
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:47 
  AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rig Pix
  
  
  I 
  wonder, does anyone on this list know how to contact the Rig Pix http://www.rigpix.com/index.shtml
  website 
  manager/person?? I see a Ham callsign on the website 
  as SM0OFV but QRZ does not have any information listed under this callsign. I have some “updated” specs for one specific 
  radio [Kenwood TM-271A] that I wanted to submit. I am surprised the website 
  guru does not have a link to submit updates/information. One additional 
  question…..the prefix: SM0…what country is it associated 
  with??
   
  Doug 
  W7FDF
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  Arizona













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone Co Lightning pucks

[Richard D. Reese]

About four years ago I had an old box on my home 
for my Verizon North telephone service.  It had the carbons inside from 
1969 when the house was constructed.  I started having noise on the lines 
and called Verizon.  Told them they  were bad and needed 
replaced.  They sent a man out who changed the box to one of the new modern 
ones .  No problem - no cost to me.  The only thing was the guy was 
new and I had to help him do it properly he did not know what carbons 
were!
 
Rich  WA8DBW
 
 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:37 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Telephone 
  Co Lightning pucks
  JoeThe box that comes out of the ground, 
  is this termed the "A Box"?  Do you think SPC (old Pacific Bell) would 
  change that assembly on my request as a customer?  I noticed there were 
  four other lines connected to the box.Gran 
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[Repeater-Builder] HT-220 UHF

[Richard D. Reese]

Well I am cleaning out the parts drawers and I 
found a 5 watt amp for an HT-220.    It is older than dirt but it 
is good.  If any one still has an old 220 and needs the amp.  Let 
me know.  Remember it requires the OMNI case.
 
It is available for the cost of shipping.  
Otherwise it goes in the trash.
 
73  Rich
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] HT-220 UHF

[Richard D. Reese]

I stand corrected.  It is the 4 watt UHF  NLE6222A

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Arck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] HT-220 UHF


> At 03:39 PM 8/26/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>
> Well I am cleaning out the parts drawers and I  found a 5 watt amp for an
> HT-220.It is older than dirt but it  is good.
>
> <--- I assume since you said 5 watt, as opposed to 4 watt, it's a VHF one?
>
> Ken





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz

[Richard D. Reese]

Check with any tower owners in your area.  Many have old paging antennas 
that were abandoned in place.  I received mine free that way.

73 Rich  WA8DBW
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:27 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater ant for 900 mhz


> What are the recommendations for a repeater antenna for 900? 





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Web Site Down?

[Richard D. Reese]

Working OK for me.
http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/


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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:52 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Web Site Down?


> 
>> Is the RB web site down?  For some reason I can not get to it tonight?
> 
> 
> No go from here too, and it's monday now.





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] mods.dk (possiably OT)

[Richard D. Reese]

I do not know how many files are on mods.dk but - there are over 2700 
members of this group.  If each member were to download a file or two we 
would have all of them.  The files could then be posted together elsewhere 
and remain available for free.

Just a thought.

73  Rich
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mods.dk (possiably OT)


>
> And by the poor english,it seems like it has been taken over by someone
> else.
> We should glean all his files and open a free server...
>
> Bryan Fields wrote:
>
>>Anyone notice that mods.dk is now a closed site that is charging to view
>>anymore then 1 page per day?
>>
>>I have a number of mods I have written, and that appear on mods.dk.  I 
>>have
>>always given my mods away under a license that lets anyone post them and
>>change them so long as they are used for non commercial use, and not have 
>>any
>>fees charged for them.
>>
>>I believe they are using a good of deal of repeater builder related 
>>material
>>as well.  This is definitely against my wishes and I have been trying to 
>>find
>>an email address to email an admin there to take my content down, either 
>>that
>>or pay me.
>>
>>This is wrong to take content from around the net and charge for it with 
>>out
>>obtaining permission from the content producers.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] mods.dk (possiably OT)

[Richard D. Reese]

Mike;

That's me.  How do we know one another?  I see you were born in 1967.   I 
did work car 7 in the early 70's.  You would have been a bit young back 
then.  What did I do to have you remember me after all of these years?  I 
hope it was something good!!!

 I retired in 96 as commander of the gang investigations unit.  I  am still 
in the area and very active with volunteer work and our nine 
grandchildren!!!   I operate all bands from 160 meters through 2.4 GHz. 
Send me your number direct and I will call you on the phone.  You have me 
very curious...

73
Rich  WA8DBW
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mods.dk (possiably OT)


>
> I just clear off my cookies after each page I read
> and then go to the next one.
>
> Are you the same Richard Reese that was a police
> officer in Kenmore, Ohio back in the 70's? Car 7 or 17
> if I remember correctly.
>
>   73, Mike N8RQU





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] mods.dk (possibly OT)

[Richard D. Reese]

Mike;

I am impressed!  It is remarkable that you would remember so much detail 
after all those years.  You are correct in that I had two HT-220's.  One on 
the police frequencies and the other on the amateur band.  I generally 
carried both and they were identical except the amateur band unit had a 
touch tone pad on the front.  On occasion I had three of them with the third 
one being in the DEA frequencies.  Great coverage on UHF with the DEA 
repeaters on the Terminal Tower in Cleveland.  I could get into the system 
from downtown Canton with the HT-220 and rubber duck!

I guess it pays to take time to speak with young people.  You never know 
what may result from a few minutes of conversation.  Thanks for the 
information.  It has made my day.

Perhaps We will see each other again some time.

P.S.  Danny and I often would do talks together and I would switch off and 
get a uniform car to impress the kids.  I guess I never realized how much 
effect it might have.  Danny is not in good health but his spirit is still 
good.

73 and take care.

Rich Reese  WA8DBW
http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Shaffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mods.dk (possibly OT)


> Hi Richard,
>
> We are way off topic here!
>
> --- "Richard D. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Mike;
>>
>> That's me.  How do we know one another?  I see you
>> were born in 1967.   I
>> did work car 7 in the early 70's.  You would have
>> been a bit young back
>> then.
>
>  What did I do to have you remember me after
>> all of these years?  I
>> hope it was something good!!!
>
> I guess it is good, actually kinda funny why I would
> remember you after 33 years.
>
> When I was 5 I was introduced to you by a relative
> who was with the A.PD (Dan Kovein). He was doing a
> drug talk at Lawndale school. The reason I still
> remember you is that you were the first person of
> African descent that I had ever seen (Live not on
> T.V.). That was a pretty exciting event for a 5 year
> old, I went home and told everyone! Being the youngest
> in the family I guess they weren't as impressed with
> the discovery as I was.
>
> Another reason I can remember you is you let me see
> your Police radio one time. What was that big brick an
> HT220? You had also mentioned something about Ham
> radio where people could own and talk on their own
> Radios. That seed planted in my mind and later
> sprouted in 1990 when my wife was pregnant with our
> first child and I was looking for a hobby where I
> could stay at home with her. I did some studying and
> was licensed early 1991.
>
>
>  73 Mike N8RQU
>
>
>>
>>  I retired in 96 as commander of the gang
>> investigations unit.  I  am still
>> in the area and very active with volunteer work and
>> our nine
>> grandchildren!!!   I operate all bands from 160
>> meters through 2.4 GHz.
>> Send me your number direct and I will call you on
>> the phone.  You have me
>> very curious...
>>
>> 73
>> Rich  WA8DBW
>> http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Michael Shaffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 5:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] mods.dk (possiably
>> OT)
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I just clear off my cookies after each page I read
>> > and then go to the next one.
>> >
>> > Are you the same Richard Reese that was a police
>> > officer in Kenmore, Ohio back in the 70's? Car 7
>> or 17
>> > if I remember correctly.
>> >
>> >   73, Mike N8RQU





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm Gettting Your Chase Bank Emails

[Richard D. Reese]

Same here.  I think it is because they bought Bank One and switched the old 
bankone.com web and internet banking to chase.com on the 26th of March.  I 
guess the Scammers hope to get people to give away their log-in 
information...


Rich  WA8DBW

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To: 
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 6:12 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] I'm Gettting Your Chase Bank Emails


> Just in case some of you are missing some of your regular
> scam emails... I seem to be getting a least 25 Chase-Bank
> Scam Emails a day  I'd be happy to share...  They're
> getting worse than the pesty Nigerian emails.The sad part
> is thinking that some people fall for those emails.
>
> cheers,
> skipp





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] FYI: FCC officially issues R&O dropping code requirement today

[Richard MI Ranta]

Paper tape machines!  Man, that's what I first learned my Morse Code with.
Wasn't that McCoy ? I remember his name popping up a lot back then. (
Dinosaurs still roamed the earth back then).

Well, I'm glad I learned it, its been nothing but a source of joy to me.
Since I first got my novice call sign, WN8HJX, I only have one microphone!
The rest, keys and an old bug.

 

I think I'll try and share this joy with others in my area by putting on
Morse Code lessons again.

 

Rich K8JX

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Recall Notice TKR-750/850 Repeaters

[Richard D. Reese]

I received a call from the dealer that sold me the repeater.  They said that
Kenwood had ordered a recall on all TK 750 and 850 repeaters.  They
redesigned the Transmitter.  IT has a much larger driver transistor and
final.

They will replace the board at no cost to you.

Richard D. Reese WA8DBW
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Recall Notice TKR-750/850 Repeaters


> Hi Richard,
>
> Just wondering where you heard this info?  We are currently using a
> TKR-750 - and I would be interested to follow up with the dealer on
> the recall.  Thanks!
>
>
> Brian




 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Recall Notice TKR-750/850 Repeaters

[Richard D. Reese]

Call Tri City Communications http://www.tricitycomm.com 330-745-7451  Gary
Sutton is the owner.

Richard D. Reese WA8DBW
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Recall Notice TKR-750/850 Repeaters


> We are a Kenwood dealer and I just check there service pages and can find
> info on any change to the TKR 750 and 850 for power only squelch control
> changes.
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Re: [Repeater-Builder]

[Richard D. Reese]

I have the complete manual as well as a IFR-1000 that has a 
power supply problem.  If you are interested in the complete unit, 
make me an offer.  I have the complete unit with the spare power supply 
that needs to be installed. 
 
Richard D. Reese WA8DBWhttp://wa8dbw.ifip.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  george 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:24 
  AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 
  
  Does anyone on the list have a schematic of an 
  IFR1000S service monitor?
  particularly the PLL section.
  I am willing to pay for it i just cant find one 
  for sale.
   
  thanks
   
  George
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder]

[Richard D. Reese]

George;
 
If all you need is the schematic of the PLL - I will copy it 
and send to you at no cost.  I was thinking of parting the unit out since 
it has sat on the bench for over a year or asking $500 OBO complete with 
operation and maintenance manual.  It was a back up for the Wavetek / CT 
Systems 5100S.  
 
Contac me direct or on the phone .  330-329-8754 cell or 
330-335-0122 home.
 
 
Richard D. Reese WA8DBWhttp://wa8dbw.ifip.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  george 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:58 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]
  
  The most I could pay would be arount 200-300 
  bucks due to me already having alot of money 
  tied up in my own basketcase unit. I would pay you for shipping/copying costs for a 
  copy
  of the schematics though. can you help out 
  another ham?
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder]

[Richard D. Reese]

Forgot to add it is the 1000A
 
Richard D. Reese WA8DBWhttp://wa8dbw.ifip.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard D. 
  Reese 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 7:32 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]
  
  George;
   
  If all you need is the schematic of the PLL - I will copy it 
  and send to you at no cost.  I was thinking of parting the unit out since 
  it has sat on the bench for over a year or asking $500 OBO complete with 
  operation and maintenance manual.  It was a back up for the Wavetek / CT 
  Systems 5100S.  
   
  Contac me direct or on the phone .  330-329-8754 cell 
  or 330-335-0122 home.
   
   
  Richard D. Reese WA8DBWhttp://wa8dbw.ifip.com
   









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[Repeater-Builder] RE: N- Connector cracks???

[Richard MI Ranta]

Hello and welcome to the wonderful spring 2004. Its snowing here!!
This past Saturday, our gang worked on our clubs repeater and discovered a
cracked N- Connector. I believe this connector was of good quality, but do
not know the brand name. Anybody here have any suggestions on how to prevent
this??  I believe it was a vertical crack.
Thanks and have great weekend.
Richie Ranta K8JX


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[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers for sale

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

I have two VHF duplexers for sale.  Frequency ranges listed are based on the
manufacturers specifications.  In the case of the DB products duplexer it
may in fact tune below 150 MHz although, I haven't tried.  Since both need 2
MHz separation they may be more useful for other than Ham use?  CAP?

Decibel Products DB4056C duplexer - 19" rack mountable VHF 150 ~ 162MHz
duplexer.  Minimum frequency separation is 2 MHz.  Excellent condition. $150

Sinclair VHF duplexer model V-150-106S  - 19" rack mountable VHF duplexer
144 ~ 174MHz.  Minimum frequency separation is 2 MHz.  Very good condition.
Includes manual.

I can email pictures upon request.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] FCC considers Auxiliary Operation on 2M!

[Richard MI Ranta]

Somebody isn't thinking too clearly on this one. 2 meters is already way
over crowded. I like the idea of UHF and even SUHF,. Why not, its only for
auxiliary use.
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[Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

Hi 
gang,
 
Our club was allowed 
space (no cost) on top of a 400' tower using an existing 7/8" line.  The 
existing UHF antenna was replaced (by the club) with a PD220-2 (142~150 range) 
antenna.  The coverage is very good.  However, on occasion when users 
with HTs or during a squelch tail the IMD is audible.  I have added cavity 
filters to both the rx & tx and the IMD is still there.  I've looked at 
it with a spectrum analyzer (connected to the rx port of the duplexer) and I do 
see IMD when the 2m repeater's tx is on.  Although, since I have the cavity 
filters inline the IMD is only noticeable within the passband of the rx 
cavity.  The IMD levels are around -90dBm give or take a 
couple.
 
Ok, here's the 
source of the IMD.  At the top of this tower is also six other transmit 
antennas that are for 800MHz trunk systems.  A total of 30 channels.  
The top platform is rather large but the closest 800 antenna to the 2m antenna 
is about 5 feet.  The farthest is about 12 feet.  Of course, 
these antennas are in the same horizontal plane with the 2m 
antenna.
 
Signal levels in the 
800 tx band that I see at the TX or RX port of the 2m duplexer without the 
bandpass cavity is about -40dBm.  With the cavity about 
-75dBm.
 
I'm thinking of just 
moving the antenna about 50' down the tower (where there's no other antennas 
mounted) to eliminate the problem.  My thinking is that with the extreme RF 
levels present on the top platform that I'd have to spend a fortune in filters 
on the 2m equipment & perhaps the 800 stuff that it'd just be cheaper to 
move the antenna from the top.  Any thoughts?
 
I was looking into a 
solution using an isolator but after further research I discovered that a 
VHF isolator will ALLOW RF into the 2m transmitter that is in the 800MHz 
range.  With the bandpass cavity inline there's no VHF (150~160) or 
UHF (450~470) signals that show up on the spectrum analyzer.  
Only the co-site 800MHz stuff is getting through the cavity.
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

Bryan,
 
No, I 
don't have a preamp in the circuit - it would only make things WORSE.  
Well, when I add additional cavities it doesn't get rid of the IMD because it's 
being generated somewhere else.  When I'm not using a cavity the IMD is all 
over the VHF band at about -90dBm.  However, when the cavity is inline the 
IMD is only visible within the passband of the rx cavity.  But it's still 
there - on channel basically.  I can see carriers appear and disappear on 
the rx side when the tx is on.  I'm thinking that maybe the IMD is being 
generated on the tower somewhere.  All is the same when I have a bandpass 
cavity on the tx side too.  Man, the 800 signals are HUGE up 
there!  All the 800 antennas are the Celwave "Penetrator" antennas.  
You know, the ones that are 23ft tall and 8 inches diameter, 12 - 15dB 
gain.
 
Richard
 
 

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  Hello Richard,
      Have you tried an additional cavity in the rx path? I had 
  a similar situation with a UHF repeater and 800 mhz systems and 
  an additional cavity worked for my problem. Also, do you have a preamp? 
  If so, where in the rx path is it? You should have all the filtering ahead of 
  the preamp.
   
  73,
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

Well, I considered that too.  However, after further study of isolators (and
discussing my situation with a manufacturer of isolators) I discovered that
a VHF isolator will not stop signals in the 800MHz range from passing
through it.  An isolator should work great if I was dealing with several VHF
transmitters at the same level on the tower.

I'm wondering if the IMD is being generated somewhere on the tower,
antenna(s), etc.?  A bandpass cavity on the tx drops the 800MHz signal
levels (as seen at the tx port) from -40dBm to -75dBm.  I would think levels
of -75dBm "shouldn't" be a problem for the 2m tx?  The harmonic filter in
the tx should drop the -75 to nearly nothing - right?  That's why I'm
thinking perhaps the IMD is being generated somewhere else.  Although, it
does only occur when the 2m tx is on.

tnx
Richard


> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Miller
>
> Richard,
>
> You said that the IMD is only there when YOUR TX in on. If this
> is the case
> you may need an Isolator for your TX. I had a site that was getting eat
> alive with IMD at 150 MHz only when the TX was on. Found out that the IMD
> was being generated in the transmitter. Put an isolator on the
> thing and no
> more IMD.
>
> Just a thought 8-)
>
> Charles Miller
>
> - Original Message -
>
> [snip]
> > I can see carriers appear and disappear on the rx side when the
> tx is on.
> [snip]
>
>





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

> -Original Message-
> From: John Lloyd
>
> Richard,
>
> Have you tried installing a low pass filter between your 2 Mtr duplexer
> and the antenna feed line?
> I am talking about the large low pass filters that were found in the old
> VHF Motorola base stations that were about 1 inch in diameter and about
> 14 inches long.

No, I haven't tried one of those.  Although, that's a good idea.  And it
happens that I have one available to try.


> I have a similar situation where my 2 mtr antenna is also at the same
> elevation as numerous other 800 Mhz repeater antennas and the addition
> of a low pass filter in my 2 mtr repeater feed line cured the problem
> like you describe.
>
> The low pass filter reduces the 800 mhz energy an additional 60 db or so
> to help isolate your 2 mtr repeater from the 800 mhz repeaters.

Well, I was kinda thinking that the bandpass cavity would accomplish the
same thing?  Maybe both inline might have a positive effect.

> I also have a dual isolator on the output of my transmitter before it
> goes into my 6 cavity celwave BpBr 2 mtr duplexer.

As mentioned in an earlier post the problem I found regarding using an
isolator is that it only acts like a one way valve around the VHF range.  It
will be transparent to 800MHz signals.  An isolator would be most effective
if I was dealing with several VHF transmitter antennas in the near field of
the 2m antenna.

When I look at the spectrum plot at the tx port when I have a bandpass
cavity inline there are NO VHF signals visible within the 150-174 range.
There's also no UHF stuff visible.  The bandpass filter does a good job of
reducing the VHF & UHF stuff down into the grass.  Although, there aren't
any VHF antennas on this tower so the signals that are present are from
distant towers so there not really that strong to begin with.

> You will probably need both the low pass filter in your feed line and
> dual isolator on your transmitter to solve this kind of problem.
>
> Your other solution will be to move your antenna out of the other
> antennas main RF field.

Well, that's what I'm thinking but I thought I'd see if anyone out there had
a "magic bullet" solution without having to relocate the antenna.  Although,
perhaps moving the PD220 antenna from the top of the tower would be a good
investment anyway in keeping it intact during lightning season (hi, hi).

> John, K7JL





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2m repeater IMD issue

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Arck
>
> <---What bothers me here about using a circulator is that you say it only
> occurs when your TX is active. This doesn't sound like IM to me, as that
> would occur regardless of whether the tx was active or not (IM is produced
> when external RF comes down the TX line and mixes in the PA stages. This
> does NOT require that the PA actually be making power).

Good point.  Yes, it only occurs when the 2m repeaters tx is on.  Basically,
what I see on the spectrum analyzer (connected to the rx port of the
duplexer) is several signals coming and going within the passband of the rx
cavity (+/- 300kHz approx).  I can tune the analyzer to a specific carrier
and hear either voice traffic or control channel.  All of these signals are
around -90dBm at the rx port.  As soon as the 2m transmitter is turned off
the carriers on the rx port disappear.

>
> It sounds more like a classic case of mixing. Have you run all the freqs
> involved to see where the possibles might be?

At this point no.  However, I'm in the process of obtaining all of the 800
freqs to do a calc.





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2m repeater IMD issue

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

> -Original Message-
> From: skipp025
>
> I've seen some of the other posts.  You should be running
> a dual port circulator in addition to the proper duplexer.

Well, I don't necessarily disagree with using an isolator/harmonic filter.
However, the isolator will not keep 800MHz signals from getting to the
transmitter of the 2m repeater.  I'm sure the harmonic filter may reduce the
800 levels some but the isolator isn't going to stop it.  Of course, an
isolator will keep other VHF signals from getting back through it but I
don't have any VHF signals that are a problem.  The duplexer is a new TX/RX
4 can vari-notch.  I've added bandpass cavities on the rx & tx side between
the duplexer & repeater.

> You mention the 7/8 line is used. If you remove the
> connector from any end and the line is not shinny, clean
> the oxide off with a brass brush and replace the connector
> back on the cable.  If the oxide color is really dark, you
> have moisture leakage in the cable and that's really bad
> news.

I'd don't know exactly how old it is but it is in "good shape" according to
the tower crew.  It was previously used by a law enforcement agency before
they switched to the 800 system.

> If the PD220-2 antenna is over 10 years old, consider
> trying a swap out. I have replaced a number of aged PD
> antennas, which (along with station masters) can become
> IMD generators when placed in modest proximity to other
> antennas (and metal objects).

I purchased the PD220-2 antenna new late last year.  It was drop shipped
directly from Celwave.

I installed a new polyphaser at the entry port but I  haven't tried taking
it out of the circuit to see if it's contributing to the problem.  Has
anyone seen a polyphaser do bad things?

> You can measure the system desense of the terminated
> feed, which will provide additional clues.

Good idea.

> You should try for min 1/4 wave spacing (at vhf) from
> the 800Mhz antennas, where possible.

The closest antenna to the PD220 is about 4 to 5 feet away.

> cheers
> skipp
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TK-840 programming cable / Question

[Richard W. Solomon]

$40 plus $13 shipping for one chip (DS275) in a DB-9 connector !!!
Man, am I in the wrong business 

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TK-840 programming cable /
Question


Here's a cable on ePay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=56988&item=3818674184
&rd=1

Also some info here. Possible Schematic of one.
http://www.cqham.ru/sch_eng.html

Hope this helps.
Andrew
KC2EUS / GM1YMI
www.kc2eus.org

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Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 17:36
Subject: [roadrunner] Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question


> Thanks for the info on the TK-840..  Does anyone know
> where I can get a programming cable??   I can get the
> software just need to know where to get the
> programming cable
>
> Thanks again..
>
> Leon-N2HLT



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sharing a receive site

[Richard D. Reese]

Should work fine.  I have a site that has receivers for my repeater on
146.085 and, 146.04, 147.735, 147.870, and147.930 Mhz as well.  They are all
using the same antenna that feeds a multi-coupler that feeds each receiver.
The multi-coupler makes up for the loss that would otherwise be there due to
adding all of the extra receivers.

All use links to the respective TX sites.  Linking is either in the 220 or
440 bands.  There are no 2 meter transmitters at the site other than a
frequency agile remote base (2 watts).  The site has Amateur repeaters on
927.5375, 444.200, 224.320, 1292.200 Mhz (each duplexed) and a comercial 5
channel trunked system.  There are also remote base transceivers on 440,
220, and 1.2 Ghz.  They all operate with no problem with each other.


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sharing a receive site


> Hi, all --
>
> I am on the technical committee of an amateur repeater club. A club in the
next county has approached us to ask about sharing one of our 2m receive
sites with them. It's a commercial site and we are there at the pleasure of
the owner, who is willing to accommodate them and thinks that there are no
bad mixes.
>
> The other club has asked to share our 2m receive antenna and feedline, and
has volunteered to install whatever equipment we specify so that our site's
performance is not degraded.
>
> While this sounds doable to me, I am more of a digital guy than an RF guy.
What should we install in order to do this "the right way" without degrading
our site's performance?
>
> Our system transmits on 146.88 MHz and receives on 146.28.
> We use a Motorola receiver (I think it's a Micor).
> The other club's system transmits on 147.345 and receives on 147.945.
> Both have links in the 440 band.
> Neither system will transmit on 2m from this site.
>
>
> Any advice or recommendations as to architecture, equipment that works (or
doesn't work!), or points to be included in a Memorandum of Understanding,
would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Koblish
>
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[Repeater-Builder] MSF5000 & external controller...

[Richard Sharp, KQ4KX]

Anyone know the best way to interface an external controller to a MSF5000
digital repeater?

Richard
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater in Ocean City NJ.

[Richard W. Solomon]

I would be interested in your experience with the Hamtronics repeater.
Has it been in service much ?

Tnx es 73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:53 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater in Ocean City NJ.


Hey Brent,

We have two 927 MHz repeaters in Ocean City. The Main is a Kenwood TKR-901S
(NEW) and the Back up is a Hamtronics REP(also new). For the Amp we you
Crescend 80 watt out put with
 a build in power supply. The duplexer is a 4 can TX/RX the isolator is
TX/RX the pre-amp is ARR The coax is 60' of 7/8 Comscope feeding a 10 DBD
TX/RX omni at 195' in the air a top a Hotel on the BD walk. All connectors
even jumpers are type "N" the repeater and controller are powered by a rack
mount Astron RM.-35 13.8 VDC power supply. The controller is a Link Comm
RLC-3 that is shared with the 147.285, 223.98 as well as the link to the net
work. We hope to have some pictures of the site soon as some one takes them.
If you would like a complete list of the network you can drop a note to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask for it.
This list server as run by Kathy, AB2LF in NJ. She will send you back a list
of the net work and codes and PL's plus the freq's.
I hope the above will be of some help.
Very best of 73,
Russ, W3CH
Trustee, W3PS/RPT

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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater in Ocean City NJ.


> Russ,,
>
> What kind of equipment are you using for the 902 repeater ?
> interested in the type of transmitter and receiver and duplexers you are
> using...
> thanks
> Brent
> http://www.qsl.net/kf4tnp
>
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] New Repeater in Ocean City NJ.
>
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> >
> >
> > Subject:  New Repeater in Ocean City NJ.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Hello All,
> >  We now have our new 927 MHz repeater in service in Ocean City NJ.
> >  All are most welcome to use the system!
> >  The repeater is on 902.5375 input and the the out put is 927.5375 the
PL
> is
> > 156.7 the repeater has 80 watts of out put in to a TX/RX 10 DBD omni at
> 195'
> > right on the ocean and the BD walk. (on a hotel)
> >  While visitting the NJ shore or most of south NJ please stop by for a
> > visit.
> >  We are getting good reports from VA., MD., NYC., PA., and all over NJ.
> >
> >  Very best of 73,
> >  Russ, W3CH.
> >  Trustee W3PS/RPT.
> >
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: [Repeater] Re: Poor Mans Repeater Project anyone?

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Hi Gary,

Would enjoy having you along on my new adventure.
On your deaf Rx audio, it seems there is an jumper that needs to be
removed, Will check today,

Wesley 73's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Thanks, Alum Tape and Antenna...Tape part#?

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Hi  Jeff,

If you can give  me a  part # on that Aluminum  tape would appreciate 
it, as I have ab DB222 that needs it.

Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Free to a good home (free except you pay shipping)

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Hi Mike,

Will take the Mocm 70 Control Head. Let me know what the Shipping charge
is & will send you an Bank Casiers check.

Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Free to a good home (free except you pay shipping)

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Great Mike. Will take that Mocom 70 Package . Sounds realy good.
Let me know by e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Money you need & list of other
Motorola Equipment.

Wes AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Measuring Desense

[Richard Wesley Bazell Jr]

Hi Laryn,

Sure agree with you on that. Hope everthing ok. Tks again on the excellant help 
you have given me in the past.

Wesley AB8KD
  - Original Message - 
  From: Laryn Lohman 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:21 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Measuring Desense


  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  > 
  > DTV sucks rocks. Period.
  >

  I just bought my DTV converter. NO problems. Period. Using an FM
  broadcast turnstile at 20 feet AGL for antenna.  No preamp.
  Good signals from 8 DTV transmitters/20 video feeds 15-45 miles away. 

  Not connected to the DTV industry in any way. Just a very happy user.

  Laryn K8TVZ



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek 3000

[Richard Wesley Bazell Jr]

Thanks Charles. Will try that. Have been thinking all day about buying an 
Motorola or IFR. Hope that works. TKS

73 Wesley
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ham-Radio 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek 3000


Wesley,

  We had several of these where I used to work. When our units would act up we
  would take the cover off and unplug every module and reseat them. This would
  resolve the issue about 90% of the time.

  Good Luck.

  Charles Miller


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bazelljr
  Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:18 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek 3000

  Well, it happens. just turned on my wavetek 3000 Station monitor yesterday &
  found it had gone South.
  Everything works except does not send or receive RF. no doubt its in the
  RF module.Yes it has Modules. Anyone have this Problem? Also Where cpould I
  get it Repaired without Spending a Fortune?

  Wesley AB8KD

  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek gone south

[Richard Wesley Bazell Jr]

Thanks John for that Info. Will be headed into Town tomorrow & get what you 
recomend.

Wesley
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Sehring 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:53 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wavetek gone south


I've been using Caig's products for about 25 ears.

  They work like magic on electronic connectors of all sorts.

  I've rescued all sorts of electronics that had been written off as "hopeless".

  Yes, even new & gold contacts have problems. Caig stuff cleans, lubes & 
maintains.

  My favorites are Deoxit D5 and Deoxit Gold G5 (for gold). I usually take 
newly acquire gear apart, connector-wise & treat all contacts.

  No, I don't own any of their stock, just a satisfied customer. BTW, they had 
a table at Dayton, I was able to chat with their tech rep & stock at up good 
prices. 

  www.caig.com

  --John WB0EQ



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Hi Mike,

You helped me out in the past on my Compa 6 meter station. Tks again.
The Zetreon Model 48 is an plain Jane.

Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Zetron model 48 controller

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Thanks for the reply.
 This is just a plain Model Zetron 48 not an jR. Is there much difference
between  the plain &JR, also do you have the method to program the
eproms?

Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTS Sinclair Duplexer VHF

[Richard W BAZELL JR]

Hi Roger

Am certainly Interested in that Sinclair Duplexer, if someone has not
beaten me to it

Wesley AB8KD







 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] EEproms Phoenix Radios

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Thanks Steve for your Offer.Was hop[ng to find a Way to do it myself.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: EEproms Phoenix Radios

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Thanks Coy.

This looks like the Route that I wll probably Take. Did I happen to see
you on Echolink yesterday?(Disney World) connected to me while I was
talking to that Canadian Station?

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Building a Icom repeater HELP !!!!

[Richard W BAZELL JR]

Hi Matt

I have the same Icoms that you Do. Bought them at Dayton Hamfest for $25
dollars a piece. Bought an Repeater interface ITS-10 
from EPCOM,along with the Programming Cable & software for less than a
$100 bill. it works great. Picked up a 4 can Motorola Cavity at
Geotgetown,Oh Hamfest for $100. use (T1501Al) works great with the
Hustler G6-440 Antenna.At 30 feet, my range is 16 Miles. I do use Andrew
Hardline. The ICS-10 is a complete Repeater Interface that plugs into
each Radio. Audio,Keying Cor, 3 second delay.
Years ago when I didn,t shake so bad. Would have done it the Hard Way.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Favorite power swr bridge

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

What I meant to say Steve is,the 807 Tubes brings
 back some good memories as in 1957 I built mt first Cw Transmitter using
these tubes 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] KC5EVE s GE Phoenix Programmer

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Hi Paul

Glad to know this, as I was planning to build this Circuit. Tks for Info

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] E-prom Reader-Writer for Phoenix

[Richard W BAZELL JR]

Hi Jim,

Would be interested in taking you up on that offer. have 2 GE Phoenix(16
Channel) one VHF, one UHF,which would like the Chips programmed. was
looking for your e-mail address on ARRL website, where I could reply
direct to you, instead of tying up the Repeater-Builder Website. My
e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Advanced Receiver Research Preamp 144-148

[Richard W W Bazell Jr]

Reminds Me. I could ue a small Alignment tool fot adjusting The VCO Coil
L104 on a GE Phoenix. Make this a Golden Request. Its avery Small Square
tool.
Truly. We could very well cease talking about this Subject is getting Old
now.Thanks

Wesley AB8KD 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] deviation meter in Motorola test set?

[Richard W W Bazell Jr]

Just Curious to how much you paid for it.I Bought one this year at Ft
Wayne Hamfest.$50.00. it also has all the goodies. Woukd be good to have
a manual on it. Have built Peaking Generators in the past, when I didn't
have the Wavetec Station monitor.Using an 3rd overtone Xtal & ckt to
control the RF output. You could align the Olds GE Progress Line Radios &
Motorola Tbe Equipment(T43GGT)

Wesley AB8KD