Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-03 Thread Randy Bush
>> ignore the lies and escalation.  it is just designed to create doubt
>> and confusion.
> 
> Could not agree more. This guy quotes his very own comment on Rob
> Blokzijl’s obituary and puts his own words in the mouth of Rob who
> cannot do anything about it anymore. He even puts this ‘quote’ in the
> charter of his new anti-RIR club. Distasteful. A disgrace.
> 
> Just ignore the lies!

that they have gone full trump (and let's remember to give credit for
continual lies to johnson) is a sign of their desperation.

randy



Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-03 Thread Daniel Karrenberg




On 2 Aug 2021, at 20:45, Randy Bush wrote:


ignore the lies and escalation.  it is just designed to
create doubt and confusion.



Could not agree more. This guy quotes his very own comment on Rob 
Blokzijl’s obituary and puts his own words in the mouth of Rob who 
cannot do anything about it anymore. He even puts this ‘quote’ in 
the charter of his new anti-RIR club. Distasteful. A disgrace.


Just ignore the lies!

Daniel



Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-02 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , 
Randy Bush ? wrote:

>i think they hired trump and giuliani to lie and escalate.  their
>problem is that they are lying and trying to escalate to an audience of
>internet operators who have decades of experience with a pretty stable
>system

It has taken quite some considerable period of time, but I do believe
that we have finally located something that Rady Bush and I actually
agree on.

>(until they illegally ripped off a lot of address space and got
>caught).

Owing to my personal propensity to avoid inflammatory assertions which
might incur the potential for some personally directed legal actions on
the basis of defamation, I shall not associate myself with this additional
parenthetical remark on the part of Randy Bush.  I will say only that
a significant number of valuable IPv4 addresses appear to have been
effectively "liberated" from the AFRINIC region for use elsewhere, and
primarily in the Far East, and even more specifically by a number of
relatively youthful legal entities in Hong Kong.


Regards,
rfg



Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-02 Thread Randy Bush
>> until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted to avoid disruption to
>> our African end users and businesses.
>
> ...which *African* end users? imho, your real fear seem to be the lost
> of connectivity of the 90%, out-of-region, customer base of the LIR
> which sued its parent-RIR and started an *INRs War* against the
> RFC7020, against the entire Internet Number Registry System, through
> the NRA.help project.

i think they hired trump and giuliani to lie and escalate.  their
problem is that they are lying and trying to escalate to an audience of
internet operators who have decades of experience with a pretty stable
system (until they illegally ripped off a lot of address space and got
caught).

as with trump, ignore the lies and escalation.  it is just designed to
create doubt and confusion.

randy



[ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-02 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear AfriNIC's Community,

Le dim. 1 août 2021 à 10:58 AM, Paul Wollner 
a écrit :

>
> Hello community
>


Hi Paul,
Thanks for your email, brother.

...please, next time, replace community by its
plural...unless you test your *globalisation*?



> I think I  misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate
> sentiments.
>


...i see!
So, you acknowledge to be wrong in your
 haste?

...please, come down, brother!


> Let me try this again:
>
> In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR
>


...i would have expected that the ressource
member which caused this concern would
have been your first recommended choice :-/


should help AFRINIC (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core
> registration service function for the time being,
>
>
>

NRA.help | Number Richers Alliance? :-/


>
> until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted to avoid disruption to our
> African end users and businesses.
>
>
...which *African* end users? imho, your real
fear seem to be the lost of connectivity of the
90%, out-of-region, customer base of the LIR
which sued its parent-RIR and started an
*INRs War* against the RFC7020, against the
entire Internet Number Registry System, through
the NRA.help project.

Shalom,
--sb.



> Regards
> Paul
>
>
>
>  On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner
> >* wrote
> 
>
> Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large.
>
> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and
> especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu,
> which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s
> inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its
> inability to meet its financial requirements.
>
> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's
> hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry
> service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as
> well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s
> registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some
> time later. (https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-
> accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/)
>
> That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come
> out of litigation.
>
> Regards
> Paul Wollner
>
>

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Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-02 Thread Christian Orozco
I definitely concur with the suggestion of passing a transfer policy.

It provides much autonomy which is crucial in the current circumstances.
Freedom of choice is very important especially now that the discussion has
ramped up and more uncertainties are coming from AFRINIC. It is about time
that we allow those willing to scale and assess the risks to just do so.
Right?

Moreover, a more capable registry can provide better service possibly along
with lower fees and even a more stable governance. With better resource
handling, all these benefits can be enjoyed by users. Isn't that what is
important?


Regards,
Christian

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 8:39 PM Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss <
community-disc...@afrinic.net> wrote:

> It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers
> and pass a transfer policy.
>
> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this
> situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile
> transfer out - problem solved.
>
> It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the
> community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if
> AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely
> zero risk in this approach.
>
> Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other
> legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the
> current legal situation
>
> I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its
> members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been
> echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should
> therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said
> risk if it is within their powers to do so
>
> Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the
> merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system
> should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this
> situation.  In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be
> nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members
> mitigate their risks as they see fit
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> --
> *From:* Taiwo Oye 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM
> *To:* Paul Wollner 
> *Cc:* arin-discuss ; secretariat <
> secretar...@nro.net>; Community Discuss ;
> apnic-talk ; ripe-list ;
> Members Discuss 
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service
> migration to other RIRs
>
> Good day all,
>
> I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has
> been watered down now).
>
> If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards
> a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only
> right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat.
> Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to
> save the region.
> I will like the community to see this as “option 1”.
>
> Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so
> likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to
> carry out its duties?
>
> If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members.
>
> If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the
> financial breakdown.
>
> That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward
> and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive.
>
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello community
>
> I think I  misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate
> sentiments.
>
> Let me try this again:
> In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC
> (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service
> function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted
> to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses.
>
> Regards
> Paul
>
>
>
>  On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner
> >* wrote
> 
>
> Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large.
>
> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and
> especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu,
> which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s
> inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its
> inability to meet its financial requirements.
>
> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's
> hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry
> service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as
> well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s
> registration service for the time being, until litigation is 

Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-01 Thread Erick Joshua Lagon
The implementation of the resource transfer policy (
https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d4#details) would
enable AFRINIC to reduce the risks in case their situation goes sideways.
However, I do not agree with an emergency policy when a transfer policy is
awaiting implementation. They should focus on that transfer policy
implementation because it is the right thing to do now.

Regards,
Erick

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:55 PM Thizwilondi Malupa 
wrote:

> Hi Robert ,
>
> I think Andrew made a very good point, despite your argument that he is
> pushing for the  transfer  policy for some other reasons. Passing a
> transfer policy would  by all means reduce the risk of having AFRINIC badly
> affected entirely , including this community  . And I think if we have a
> transfer policy in place it will also be good for future challenges. But
> not that it will always be a solution to look at during a crisis , but it
> will be helpful to have it  in case it needs to be used .  I suggest you
> look at it in a way where you put the interest of the future of the
> AFRINIC  mind.
>
> Regards,
> Ishmael
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 3:50 PM robert ford via Community-Discuss <
> community-disc...@afrinic.net> wrote:
>
>> Typical of Andrew about transfer of rights. He clearly knows what he
>> would use such transfer policy for.
>>
>> Glad rightful thinking members of African Internet community understand
>> the baits
>>
>> RF
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 1 Aug 2021, at 15:44, Lamiaa Chnayti  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> It makes absolute sense to pass a resource transfer policy that gives the
>> resource members the option of not getting dragged along the risky mess
>> AFRINIC is putting them through.
>>
>> But I don’t see the necessity of passing an emergency policy when we
>> already have a resource transfer policy that has been discussed and has
>> achieved consensus before, so it only makes sense that the board ratifies
>> the *AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04.*
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Lamiaa CHNAYTI
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 13:39, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss <
>> community-disc...@afrinic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers
>>> and pass a transfer policy.
>>>
>>> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this
>>> situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile
>>> transfer out - problem solved.
>>>
>>> It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which
>>> the community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if
>>> AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely
>>> zero risk in this approach.
>>>
>>> Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of
>>> other legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from
>>> the current legal situation
>>>
>>> I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its
>>> members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been
>>> echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should
>>> therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said
>>> risk if it is within their powers to do so
>>>
>>> Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on
>>> the merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system
>>> should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this
>>> situation.  In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be
>>> nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members
>>> mitigate their risks as they see fit
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS 
>>> --
>>> *From:* Taiwo Oye 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM
>>> *To:* Paul Wollner 
>>> *Cc:* arin-discuss ; secretariat <
>>> secretar...@nro.net>; Community Discuss ;
>>> apnic-talk ; ripe-list ;
>>> Members Discuss 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service
>>> migration to other RIRs
>>>
>>> Good day all,
>>>
>>> I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement
>>> has been watered down now).
>>>
>>> If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending
>>> towards a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it
>>> is only right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry
>>> afloat.
>>> Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming
>>> to save the region.
>>> I will like the community to see this as “option 1”.
>>>
>>> Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not
>>> so likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to
>>> carry out its duties?
>>>
>>> If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members.
>>>
>>> If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to 

Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-01 Thread Lamiaa Chnayti
It makes absolute sense to pass a resource transfer policy that gives the
resource members the option of not getting dragged along the risky mess
AFRINIC is putting them through.

But I don’t see the necessity of passing an emergency policy when we
already have a resource transfer policy that has been discussed and has
achieved consensus before, so it only makes sense that the board ratifies
the *AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04.*


Best regards,
Lamiaa CHNAYTI



On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 13:39, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss <
community-disc...@afrinic.net> wrote:

> It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers
> and pass a transfer policy.
>
> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this
> situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile
> transfer out - problem solved.
>
> It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the
> community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if
> AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely
> zero risk in this approach.
>
> Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other
> legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the
> current legal situation
>
> I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its
> members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been
> echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should
> therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said
> risk if it is within their powers to do so
>
> Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the
> merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system
> should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this
> situation.  In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be
> nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members
> mitigate their risks as they see fit
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> --
> *From:* Taiwo Oye 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM
> *To:* Paul Wollner 
> *Cc:* arin-discuss ; secretariat <
> secretar...@nro.net>; Community Discuss ;
> apnic-talk ; ripe-list ;
> Members Discuss 
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service
> migration to other RIRs
>
> Good day all,
>
> I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has
> been watered down now).
>
> If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards
> a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only
> right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat.
> Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to
> save the region.
> I will like the community to see this as “option 1”.
>
> Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so
> likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to
> carry out its duties?
>
> If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members.
>
> If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the
> financial breakdown.
>
> That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward
> and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive.
>
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello community
>
> I think I  misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate
> sentiments.
>
> Let me try this again:
> In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC
> (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service
> function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted
> to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses.
>
> Regards
> Paul
>
>
>
>  On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner
> >* wrote
> 
>
> Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large.
>
> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and
> especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu,
> which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s
> inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its
> inability to meet its financial requirements.
>
> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's
> hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry
> service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as
> well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s
> registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some
> time later. (
> https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/
> )
>
> That way, no end user or business will ever impacted 

Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-08-01 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list
Even if a transfer policy is adopted, *before* any transfer AFRINIC has the 
right to verify the resources are being used according to the policies, RSA, 
documentation/justification provided when it was allocated/assigned, etc., etc. 

 

If the resources don’t follow the rules, the RIR (not just in the case of 
AFRINIC) has the right to enforce (before the transfer) the rules or reclaim 
the resources.

 

Each RIR has sligtly different rules clearly, but in no case, a transfer policy 
shall be allowed to be used as a way to circumvent the existing rules of the 
origin RIR!

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 1/8/21 15:01, "Taiwo Oye"  escribió:

 

Thank you @andrew.

 

It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers and 
pass a transfer policy

- point 2

 

 

On Aug 1, 2021, at 13:38, Andrew Alston  wrote:

 

It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers and 
pass a transfer policy.

 

Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this 
situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile transfer 
out - problem solved.

 

It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which the 
community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if AfriNIC 
has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely zero risk 
in this approach.

 

Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of other legal 
action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from the current 
legal situation



I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of its 
members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been echoed 
by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should therefore stand 
that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said risk if it is within 
their powers to do so

 

Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on the 
merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system should 
run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this situation.  
In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be nothing short 
of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members mitigate their 
risks as they see fit





Andrew  

 

Get Outlook for iOS

From: Taiwo Oye 
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM
To: Paul Wollner 
Cc: arin-discuss ; secretariat ; 
Community Discuss ; apnic-talk 
; ripe-list ; Members Discuss 

Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration 
to other RIRs 

 

Good day all, 

 

I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement has been 
watered down now).

 

If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending towards a 
financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it is only right 
to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry afloat. 

Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming to save 
the region. 

I will like the community to see this as “option 1”. 

 

Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not so 
likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to carry 
out its duties?

 

If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community members. 

 

If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of the 
financial breakdown. 

 

That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way forward and 
have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being proactive. 




On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner  wrote:

 

 

Hello community

 

I think I  misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate sentiments.

 

Let me try this again:

In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC (by 
staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service function 
for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted to avoid 
disruption to our African end users and businesses.

 

Regards

Paul

 

 

 

 On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 Paul Wollner 
 wrote 

 

Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large. 

 

The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and 
especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, which is 
available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s inability to keep 
providing its core registry functions due to its inability to meet its 
financial requirements.

 

I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's 
hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry 
service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as well as 
commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s registration service 
for the time being, until litigation is settled some time 

Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-31 Thread Randy Bush
> The NRO's Joint Stability Fund was literally set up to guarantee the
> continued operation of an RIR in case of an emergency, and for an RIR
> to no longer have access to its bank accounts is obviously one.

somehow i missed the bit where afrinic asked for this support.  could
you please point me to it?  thanks.

randy



Re: [ripe-list] [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

2021-07-31 Thread Lamiaa Chnayti
+1 "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".

The NRO's Joint Stability Fund was literally set up to guarantee the
continued operation of an RIR in case of an emergency, and for an RIR to no
longer have access to its bank accounts is obviously one. Otherwise how
will AFRINIC maintain its payroll and maintain its services to serve the
African Internet stability?

It really baffles me how some people are so convinced that anything that
differs from their usual opinion means that it's wrongful. There is no
shame in asking for help. What is shameful is to know that help is needed
and pretend that it's not in order to save one's pride. There's a system in
place, so why not use it until AFRINIC gets back on its feet? I don't want
to see our Internet registry get destroyed and I don't want to suffer from
the consequences, and I doubt anyone in this community does.

Best regards,
Lamiaa



On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 22:13, Paul Wollner 
wrote:

> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and
> especially by AFRINIC's  own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu,
> which is attached to this email, regarding the AFRINIC’s inability to keep
> providing its core registry functions due to its inability to meet its
> financial requirements.
>
> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's
> hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry
> service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as
> well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s
> registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some
> time later. (
> https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/
> )
>
> That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come
> out of litigation.
>
> Regards
> Paul Wollner
>
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