[RDD] Adding MIXXX

[Alan Peterson]

Has anyone experimented with a way to integrate the MIXXX  hands-on DJ
program into CentOS (or Ubuntu for that matter) alongside Rivendell?

I would very much like the option to switch RDAirplay to Manual for an hour
or two on a weekend and mix a hands-on music show using a deejay
environment such as MIXXX; sharing the RD music library (or a copy of it)
and piped through the same audio interfaces as RDAirplay into the console.

I suppose I can use a separate computer and tap a common music library, but
having everything in one box is efficient, IMO.

www.mixxx.org, for the curious.

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Re: [RDD] Editing RDLibrary Label Bar

[Alan Peterson]

>>>

> There's a rumor going around that in future versions of Rivendell
> (possibly the one coming with the QT5 implementation), you will be able
> to customize these column settings to your liking.
>
<<<

That would be nice, David. Thanks.
'Conductor' and 'Composer' are irrelevant to my needs, and that's a lot of
real estate being eaten up by those columns.
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[RDD] Editing RDLibrary Label Bar

[Alan Peterson]

Along the top bar of my RDLibrary are categories such as Composer,
Conductor, Publisher et al.

Where do I go inside the system to modify these categories and remove the
ones non-essential to my operation?  Thanks.

*Alan Peterson*
*1700 Rolling Valley Radio (Part 15)*
*Springfield VA*
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[RDD] Linux Mint

[Alan Peterson]

Everyone may already know the folks at RadioTools broadcast software in the
UK have devised a way to run Rivendell under Linux Mint; a desktop distro
based on Ubuntu. They call their incarnation "AirPro".

There have been some good packages created such as RRAbuntu and Edge
Radio's RPi version with Raspbian, but has anyone here tried Mint as a
suitable and stable OS? If so, what were your impressions?

https://www.radiotools.uk/playout.html
https://linuxmint.com/
https://www.edgeradio.org.au/rivendell-on-raspberry-pi.html

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Re: [RDD] Spacebar Behavior

[Alan Peterson]

I swapped keyboards a couple of times, Geoff. But I haven't tried examining
activity with a text editor.
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a fair go.

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[RDD] Spacebar Behavior

[Alan Peterson]

Hi all - Running version 3.4.1 on an older Dell dual-core. I have the
spacebar set up to Play Next when tapped. But when I do, it skips ahead two
events instead of just one.

What should I try?

Alan Peterson
1700 Rolling Valley Radio
Springfield Va.
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Re: [RDD] Add our station to Riv Wiki

[Alan Peterson]

Someone please add mine too?

*Rolling Valley Radio, 1700-AM*: a Part 15 low-power hobby broadcaster in
Springfield VA (suburban Washington DC).

Thanx.
Alan Peterson
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell-dev Digest, Vol 92, Issue 2

[Alan Peterson]

Gents, pardon me for asking; but I'm basically a glorified button-pusher
and not a programmer, and I am just curious to know.

Is there a distinct advantage to running RD on Ubuntu rather than CentOS?

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[RDD] Spacebar Behavior

[Alan Peterson]

Hi. I'm running RD 3.4.1 on a Dell dual-core, 4GB RAM, CentOS 7, and with a
budget StarTech 7.1 USB audio interface.

I have the RDAirplay setting S*pacebar>Next *engaged. But when I hit the
spacebar once, the log jumps ahead two songs instead of moving ahead to the
next one. Also, rather than a gentle segue/crossfade, it is an abrupt hit.

Is there another detail to this setting I am leaving undone? Is it my
machine, or is it possible this is a bug?

Thanks.
Alan P
*rolling valley radio 1700*
*Springfield VA*



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Re: [RDD] RD Version for RPi

[Alan Peterson]

We're doing that now at my day job in Arlington VA. It works OK, the
control rooms are nice and quiet, no heat to speak of, and no filters to
clean out.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 3:11 PM Eric Adler  wrote:

> I'm curious to try a pi for a frontend system in the control room.
> Cheaper than a KVM extender or thin client to connect to something in the
> machine room and just as quiet if not quieter.
>
> Eric
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 2:52 PM Alan Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any general consensus about this particular Australian Rivendell
>> image -https://www.edgeradio.org.au/rivendell-on-raspberry-pi.html
>> ... or Rivendell on the Raspberry in general?
>>
>> I have trouble trusting my operation to a $45 computer, but at the same
>> time recognize that not every station wants/needs/can afford the latest and
>> greatest. And an RPi with a 256GB USB stick for an audio library can
>> certainly keep an AM standalone or educational station on the air nicely.
>>
>> Impressions anyone? Thanks.
>>
>> Alan Peterson
>> *1700 RollingValleyRadio*
>> *Springfield VA USA*
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[RDD] RD Version for RPi

[Alan Peterson]

Is there any general consensus about this particular Australian Rivendell
image -https://www.edgeradio.org.au/rivendell-on-raspberry-pi.html
... or Rivendell on the Raspberry in general?

I have trouble trusting my operation to a $45 computer, but at the same
time recognize that not every station wants/needs/can afford the latest and
greatest. And an RPi with a 256GB USB stick for an audio library can
certainly keep an AM standalone or educational station on the air nicely.

Impressions anyone? Thanks.

Alan Peterson
*1700 RollingValleyRadio*
*Springfield VA USA*
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[RDD] Long Delay on Audio Start

[Alan Peterson]

A few days back, I mentioned a pair of Macros I created for a remote start
"button box".  One Macro puts RD into Manual Mode, the second starts the
next event, waits 1.5 secs and then switches back to Auto. I also
duplicated them as RDPanel buttons.

Here's the thing: If the RD playlist is empty and I test-activate these via
the RDPanel buttons, they work properly and on time. If I have even one or
two songs stacked to go in RDAirplay, there is a very long delay on that
second Macro -- on the order of up to 20 secs between hitting the button
and any action that follows.

That's the only time I experience that kind of delay. Without messing with
the Macros, a loaded Airplay log segues flawlessly with no bad pauses.

HP dual-core running C7 and the latest RD version. I am still resolving a
soundcard sample rate issue that bollixed things up early on. Open to all
suggestions, and thanks.

Alan
*Rolling Valley Radio*
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[RDD] Basic GPIO via Serial Bus -- Airplay Starts

[Alan Peterson]

Thanks to Lorne and others who helped me with being able to use the old
Serial Port on my machine for a "jock button box."  The idea is to press
one button for Airplay to stop after playing the song now on air (Macro
cart PM Set Mode-Manual), then press a second one to start back up (Macro
cart PN Start Next -  SP Sleep for one second -  PM Set Mode-Auto).  On
Panel buttons it works fine. But I'm not quite there with the physical
buttons.

I've confirmed in GpiMon that I am getting closures and I have assigned two
of them to the desired Macro carts. But RDAirplay isn't seeing them.

Clearly somewhere in the configuration, there is a way to engage Airplay to
pick up and act upon a GPIO closure. I just haven't found it. What am I
missing?  Thanks as always.

AP
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[RDD] Quick Play, Distortion Then Unload

[Alan Peterson]

Still working on putting RD 3.4.1 on an older dual-core machine (CentOS 7),
with a super-budget $37 StarTech.Com 7.1 USB audio interface. So far,
things look OK, except I haven't been able to successfully save my
soundcard settings, although I do have individual playout streams to my
mixer.

My immediate problem is that Airplay will run a few seconds of music, break
out into wild distortion and then just dump out of the cut that's playing.
I have a recollection of this coming up once before a while ago, but have
not been able to find any info.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks.

Alan
Rolling Valley Radio
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[RDD] Wired Remote Starts

[Alan Peterson]

The Wiki pages have an entry on how to wire up a 15-pin joystick port to
use as a controller. Those ports are rarer than unicorn spit these days.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a simple programmable USB button-box
that I can use to execute basic Airplay commands; specifically MAN / AUTO /
Start?

Alan
Rolling Valley Radio 1700
*(Part 15 AM)*
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[RDD] Side Topic to ALSA Firmware

[Alan Peterson]

The M-Audio 1010 has been around since 2000 and the company now considers
it a "legacy" product. While it's a very good interface, there has to be
something recent which is comparable and just as affordable today, up to
the task of modern computing.

I'm not pooh-poohing this card or anyone who has success using it (or the
Delta 44, 66, or 2496 interfaces). On the contrary, I applaud (and envy)
your ability to get such long life out of your gear. But say one was to
assemble a standalone RD studio system with new or recent PC hardware ---
what affordable multichannel alternatives are there right now worth scoping
out?

Alan
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Re: [RDD] silence at log rotation

[Alan Peterson]

This is kinda cheesy, but what about using the Aux Log to fill the time?

Create a short playlist permanently loaded into Aux Log 1 or 2 that kicks off 
every night at 11:59:30 (or so), consisting of these steps:
1) Fade out all Main Log audio now present (PS 0 2000)
2) Sleep for 2 secs (SP 2000)
3) Play Panel Button "X" with anthem (PP etc)
4) Sleep for duration of audio (SP )
4) Start Next event on Main Log (PN 1)

At 30 secs before midnight, the Aux Log fades out whatever is airing on the 
Main and starts playing stirring patriotic music. Meanwhile, a Timed Event in 
the Main log leisurely loads the next day's log and waits. Since the load-in is 
being covered by music from the Sound Panel, there is no dead air. 

When the music finishes in the Aux log, it is followed by the RML command to 
start the newly-loaded Main log.

Yes, it means there is a rollover on midnight where an event will have to wait 
until completion of the Panel playback, and the night-owl format freaks 
listening at that hour (they know who they are) will complain that the ID 
didn't hit at *exactly* Zero-zero. But it is a seamless presentation for 
listener and operator alike. 

I have not tried this myself as I don't have a situation where it is needed. 
But on its face, this - or a variation of it - looks like it should work.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Old-timers and rdairplay

[Alan Peterson]

Yeah, but he told me he's trying to kill the paper logs too. 



- Original Message -
From: "Fred Gleason" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:38:36 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Old-timers and rdairplay

On Feb 20, 2014, at 19:24 35, Keith Thelen  wrote:

> Trouble is, I'm not sure how best to recreate the "two triple deckers" model.

RDCartSlots, configured with two columns and three rows.  QED.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Old-timers and rdairplay

[Alan Peterson]

Keith,

If that "Old Gang of Yours" is used to cart decks, what about just using the 
RDCartSlots module by itself in the clear?

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Re: [RDD] Installing Rivendell Appliance system alongside Windows?

[Alan Peterson]

Just to settle my own curiosity, what would you use a dual-boot Win/Rivendell 
box for?


-Al
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Re: [RDD] Best way to keep music logs on time

[Alan Peterson]

On my silly little Part 15 AM'er, my music hours have some "catch-ups" built in 
--- peppered around the hour are hard-timed marker carts that blow off any 
overflow music when the clock hits them.

Say I schedule five songs to go from :00:00 to :20:00, but due to random 
timings I might end up with 23 or more minutes of music that need to fit in 
there.  At :18:30 the log jumps to a hard-time cart with text marker and a WAIT 
command. If there are one or two songs left to play, they are dropped and the 
log advances to whatever comes after that cart once the song is over. This 
happens a few more times in the hour, keeping me fairly close to my 
quarter-hours and my :20s.

In the last waning minutes near TOH, I populate the music playlist with a few 
Oldies which run 2:00 - 3:00 mins tops, and I put in a MAKE NEXT/WAIT cart with 
legal ID around :58:00 or so. Any songs left are punted, the song on air plays 
to completion and the ID hits fairly close to :00:00.  Since I'm not doing 
news, a little slop either side of the hour is OK.

I dont feel bad about the songs that never get played. The audience never knows 
they missed them.

-Al Peterson


_
Hello! 

I'm wondering what would be the best method for setting up logs so that the 
music would stay roughly on time... especially if a bad estimate of music 
length is given in the clocks (I have some tracks that are up to 5X+ the length 
of most others). Would there be a way to accomplish this? And if so, how would 
it be? 

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Re: [RDD] OT: SoundPanel

[Alan Peterson]

I remember that. IIRC, it wanted to see an AudioScience card exclusively to 
work.

I dont like recommending commercial software on the RD forum, but in my own 
theatrical endeavors I've had good success with Show Cue System 
(http://www.showcuesystems.com/). Affordable, designed exclusively for theater 
and it runs on conventional 'Winduhz' hardware.

AP


- Original Message -
From: "Jay Ashworth" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:03:29 PM
Subject: [RDD] OT: SoundPanel

Am I incorrect in remembering that there used to be a stand-alone version
of SoundPanel?

I'm about to start doing audio for a community theatre, and I need 
something to run on Linux that lets me start random clips with a) overlap
b) individual stop, and c) all stop, and doesn't drive me nuts -- I can
do it with multiple copies of midnight commander, but I'd rather not.

In lieu of Riv, anyone got another tool that does this?

I've finally found a couple good ones for Android, but my tablet got 
stolen last year, and I won't be able to replace it in time for curtain,
I don't think.

Cheers,
-- jra

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Re: [RDD] Audio Processing -- was -- normalization (Alan Peterson)

[Alan Peterson]

- Original Message -
From: "Cowboy" 

 Who, in their right mind, would produce a piece of 
 **professional** equipment that *deliberately* introduces
 harmonic distortion ?


The makers of guitar fuzzboxes. Been that way for about 50 years.

I forget where I read it and who said it, but to paraphrase: "its amazing how 
we spend so many years and so much money to create as clean and pristine a 
signal as possible, and then willingly and happily #$%^$! it up with a $19 box 
from Lafayette."

-ap
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Re: [RDD] Audio Processing -- was -- normalization

[Alan Peterson]

I'm one of those proud production rats, Cowboy. I've written about it for over 
20 years in Radio World newspaper and Radio and Production Magazine; I've 
practiced it at numerous successful and award-winning stations; and now apply 
it on a national network level. There isn't one outside pre-recorded program 
that comes into us that doesn't undergo a QC process of peak limiting, 
normalization and, in some cases, tight parametric EQ to remove whistles & 
harmonics from phone calls and Skype connections... before it's imported for 
playout.

Digital audio processing has made things a lot easier and faster -- Multiband 
compression can be applied as a batch process to multiple sound files, with 
predictable and fine-tunable results every time. We've created our own presets 
to fix commonly occurring problems (like eliminating the 15.6 kHz whine coming 
from an old TV monitor the host "still needs" in his studio). A few years ago 
we had to cook up a plug-in to notch out the B-flat tone of vuvuzelas on 
international sports reports just to hear the commentators. There are even free 
plugins that can restore badly clipped audio 
(http://csa.sourceforge.net/index/index_en.html). Yes, all these are necessary 
but are not coldly automatic -- it still takes someone with an ear to make it 
all work.

Having that big processor going out the door is necessary to hit proper 
modulation, keep from splashing the boys down the dial, and put a signature 
sound to a particular station. It is, as you point out, not the Mister-Fixit to 
wildly varying audio. Leo's advice from an earlier message is valid: I might 
recommend that any future audio going into Ermina's system be QC'd on an 
external system first. Some gentle peak limiting works wonders on spiky 
material and normalization is always needed on modern pop music.

Alan Peterson
Washington DC
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Re: [RDD] Satellite Operation Question-where are elements usually played from?

[Alan Peterson]

I'm thinking if a particular User is logged in, there are only a limited number 
of panels and palettes that are accessible. Even if the panel visible in the 
RDAirplay screen is not the one desired at the moment, and as long as the 
proper User is logged in, I believe the RML "PP" (Play Panel) command will play 
the audio event you want -- even if it is not included in the panel array 
displayed on the screen at the moment.

If your concern might be that your 'knucklehead' changes Users during satellite 
time and forgets to switch back (thereby messing up the panels), the "LO" 
(Login) command can put the system back in the hands of the rightful user for 
that particular shift. Inserting an LO command every half-hour will force the 
system to return to the proper User on a regular basis.

I've not tried these myself, but based on the Rivendell feature set it makes 
sense that they would work. I've found details and syntax on Pgs 106-107 of the 
ROG manual 1.3.2-1.

AP

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Re: [RDD] Fwd: What reliable ALSA cards are you using?

[Alan Peterson]

>From Rob Landry:

"It's a pity the sound cards built into current motherboards don't have
better specs. If they did, I'd be happy to make my own differential
input/output boards."

-
And that's really too bad. C-Media, which makes a lot of the audio chips found 
on mobos, has decent audio specs on a lot of their pieces. So much so that the 
ASUS folks make a high-end (consumer) PCI-Express card called the Xonar Essence 
STX, which is built around a C-Media chip. It depends on the PC's CPU to handle 
the processing, but that's only if you want to use the cartoony features (voice 
changer, "environmental" ambience and reverb, etc). As a straight-ahead sound 
card, its pretty good.

There are a lot of companies making those on-board audio chips -- Crystal, VIA, 
Realtek and others -- some better than others. I agree that the quality of mobo 
audio could and should be improved. 

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Re: [RDD] Voice-Tracking bug?

[Alan Peterson]

What version?
Single machine or networked?
If more than 1 machine, are all versions the same?
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- Original Message -
From: "Pedro Picoto" 
Subject: [RDD] Voice-Tracking bug?

30'' to save a VT. 
If I "Do Over"... another 30'' 
Save the log: another 30''... 

"Normal" or not? 

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Re: [RDD] Is Rivendell suited for my station?

[Alan Peterson]

From: "Marc Steele" 

The catch with your suggestion is that you need a complete standalone copy of 
Rivendell running. That's audio library, database, etc. that all need to be 
separately maintained. 


It works for us here, but that's just our own unique situation (long-form talk 
programming) and realize its not the solution for everybody. 
We have two side-by-side RD systems running; one set up to augment live talent, 
and a second running hot-standby audio with pre-recorded host segments. If the 
connection to the host collapses, we jump to the standby box. Except for the 
odd continuity in the topic being discussed, we dont miss a beat.

Since all audio is pulled from a server and the machines are essentially 
running the same show, we dont need to maintain two separate audio libraries. 
Only thing different is the program log: one version has carts of pre-recorded 
show material, the other has long stops for the live host to do his/her thing. 
Spots and program elements are the same.

There are lots of solutions to the silence-sense issue. All are valid, and what 
works best for you is what works. 

AP
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Re: [RDD] Is Rivendell suited for my station?

[Alan Peterson]

How 'bout a second independent Rivendell machine running a duplicate log? It's 
not like there is massive expense involved. If one machine goes flop, the 
second one can be launched by the silence sense device. And it would sustain 
the programming flow better than a hardware MP3 device.

As one can dependably run RD on a sub-$100 64-bit PC, it seems a reasonable 
consideration.

-ap
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Re: [RDD] Is Rivendell suited for my station?

[Alan Peterson]

* Does Rivendell have a silence-detector? If it's silent for more than a 
certain time, something should start playing! Can Rivendell automatically build 
an "emergency playlist" to fill a gap? 

NO 
--
On its own it doesn't. But I think its possible to run the RD output thru a 
silence sense device (say an RDL ACR-1,  
http://www.rdlnet.com/product.php?page=130), and have the sensor's relay 
closure trip an RML command to play a Fill Log or some other audio event.

Of course, this also means Rivendell needs a GPIO board or hacked USB joystick 
device so that said closure can be read by the software.

So NO, but Y-yeah-h...

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Re: [RDD] Best option for playing legal ID at top of hour without unceremoniously cutting into a playing song

[Alan Peterson]

  Under RDLogManager > Edit Events, I select the Timed Start function, then 
check the box for Action if Previous Event Still Playing > Make Next. This will 
jettison the over-scheduled music at the end of my hour and jump the log to the 
hard-timed event, BUT not fire it off until the song is done. 
  As the last 12 minutes of my hour are populated with short songs, the worst I 
will do is be two minutes late with a legal ID. But I dont think people are 
setting their watches to my 0.1W signal.

  As far as the system handling back-timing, I have not seen that as a feature. 
It is presumed there is some human interaction at some level and that said 
human can do a fair job of taking care of "filling the bucket", as it were. 
Just put in 10 or so more minutes of music than an hour needs, then put in a 
few "catch-up" markers in so the log evens itself out 3 or 4 times an hour by 
disposing of music it cant get to throughout the hour. Each hour of the log is 
then self-correcting. 

  The hour may not end right on the tick of :59:59, but it's close enough for 
Bluegrass.

AP




- Original Message -
From: "Andy Brown" 
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Best option for playing legal ID at top of hour without 
unceremoniously cutting into a playing song

On 22/10/13 00:57, Alan Peterson wrote:
> What I do is overschedule a bunch of *short* songs (typically oldies)
> instead of overly long ones inside the last 8 minutes of the hour,
> and do a Timed Start-Wait at :58:00 where the subsequent event is the
> Legal ID. I save the long tunes for the middle of the hour where
> there is not so much of an urgency to hit a critical time, and the
> Timed Start at or around :58 drops the overscheduled songs. Works OK
> for me & my little clandestine basement station.

Hi Alan,

A brief question, as this is something I'm currently doing however I'm
getting frequently a song starting then say 10-30 seconds later it being
cut-off by the scheduled hourly event. Is there something you've come up
with to solve that or is that something we have to bear with?

Ideally, can the system not back-time? Since the system is in full
automation, filling its hours itself, etc, surely the log generator
could take that into account and 'accurately' fill the hour with songs
that fit?

Any thoughts?

-- 
Andy
e: andy @ thebmwz3.co.uk
e: andy @ broadcast-tech.co.uk
w: http://www.thebmwz3.co.uk
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[RDD] Daylight/Standard Time Log Shifts

[Alan Peterson]

In another week, the portions of the U.S. that observe Daylight Savings Time 
will be returning to Standard Time. How will most Rivendell users be altering 
their logs and playout strategies to program for that "found" hour?

Simplest thing to do is just replay whatever the 1AM hour consisted of. Others 
create a new log that loads at 01:59:59 DT with a fresh and different hour of 
content (this is what we do), so when the clock resets to 1AM *Standard* Time, 
a completely different "One o'Clock Hour" plays out.

What will you be doing?

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Best option for playing legal ID at top of hour without unceremoniously cutting into a playing song

[Alan Peterson]

When did a station legal ID become the audio equivalent of a cup of hemlock?  I 
find its a great place to be creative, promotions-minded and just a little 
warped. 

Just get the calls + city of license in the clear. THEN go nuts.

AP
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Re: [RDD] Best option for playing legal ID at top of hour without unceremoniously cutting into a playing song

[Alan Peterson]

What I do is overschedule a bunch of *short* songs (typically oldies) instead 
of overly long ones inside the last 8 minutes of the hour, and do a Timed 
Start-Wait at :58:00 where the subsequent event is the Legal ID. I save the 
long tunes for the middle of the hour where there is not so much of an urgency 
to hit a critical time, and the Timed Start at or around :58 drops the 
overscheduled songs. Works OK for me & my little clandestine basement station.
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Re: [RDD] Distorted Output-2.5.0

[Alan Peterson]

How about sample rate conflict? Settings for card not what RD wants to see?



- Original Message -
From: "Lorne Tyndale" 
To: "Alan Smith" , "User discussion about the Rivendell 
Radio Automation System" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:40:54 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Distorted Output-2.5.0

You may have already checked this, but try playing some of your audio
files on another computer (copy them out of /var/snd on to a usb stick
or something)

If they sound distorted on another computer then it is the sound files
themselves.

Lorne Tyndale



>  Original Message 
> Subject: [RDD] Distorted Output-2.5.0
> From: Alan Smith 
> Date: Wed, October 16, 2013 4:34 pm
> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
> 
> 
> 
> My first production machine was unfortunately shipped across the country 
> a few months back (maybe longer).
> 
> Getting reports of distorted audio.  Have an engineer on site to confirm.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Card is an ASI 6114.
> Used Broadcast Appliance CD patched up to 2.5.0 (disabled auto updates 
> after that for other reasons)
> RDAdmin shows all gain settings at default (0).  If I reduce the gain, 
> the volume gets lower, but distortion remains.
> 
> I can't remember if there is a terminal command to bring up any sort of 
> mixer for the ASI card, but from googling I gather there isn't one?
> 
> Possibly just a defective card?  Although all the outputs I tried suffer 
> from the same distortion.
> 
> Any insight would be appreciated.
> 
> -Alan
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[RDD] USB Joystick Control Under Gnome

[Alan Peterson]

About a year ago when KDE was managing the CentOS windows, I put up a message 
asking about using a gutted USB joystick as a pushbutton box to operate 
Rivendell. Part of the procedure called for using the KDE Control Center to 
check for connectivity and button actuations.

I'm now looking for the equivalent of Control Center> Joystick under the 
current version using Gnome and cannot find one. 

The shell command lsusb shows the joystick to be connected and active, but 
nothing more. What do I need to do to see closures and activations Under 
Centos/Gnome, and then assign the functions to the current vesion of RD?

RD ver 2.5.3
Centos 6.4
Gnome 2.28.2

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Re: [RDD] Open Function using a USB controller

[Alan Peterson]

Reviving this discussion from several weeks ago ---

I had not dug deep enough to discover it, but in CentOS under 
SYSTEM>>PREFERENCES>>KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS, I can write a keystroke sequence (such 
as CTRL-ALT-numpad1) to command the OS to switch desktops. Putting one element 
of RD on each desktop accomplishes what I was after.

Now I just need to tell the OS how to interpret closures from the USB joystick 
buttons to figure it all out.

-AP
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[RDD] CartSlots Controller

[Alan Peterson]

This may have been asked once before, but is there a way to configure CartSlots 
so an event can be played externally; i.e., the "F" keys on a keyboard or a 
dedicated USB "X-Keys" button strip?

A touchscreen is still a bit out of reach for me, but I still like the tactile 
feeling of a 'click' under my fingertip when I play an audio file.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] JACK-able audio processor?

[Alan Peterson]

The CSA Extended FastLookahead Limiter might also be worth checking out:

http://csa.sourceforge.net/index/index_en.html




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[RDD] Great way to ruin your RD system

[Alan Peterson]

I have different iterations of Rivendell running on a couple of machines in my 
basement, including a really old 32-bit version on a clunkaroony 2004 Dell. 
This machine I dont take too seriously, so it ends up as a websurfing box among 
other roles.

A few days ago, I stuck a Slax Live disc in the machine just to see what it had 
going for it. I was told if a machine can't run a Slax disc, it wont run 
anything. So up it came, it ran just just fine, I yawned, ejected the disc and 
powered it down. No biggie; it ran so I guess I'll keep the machine.

The other night when I fired up Rivendell on the same cheap computer, I had no 
music, no audio, no test logs to speak of, nothing. A  df  check showed that 
the files still existed on the computer but as far as RD was concerned, I was 
sitting by myself inside a big empty radio station.

The Slax disc - ostensibly a live disc that should not touch the contents of 
the hard drive - actually *did* mess with it and made changes that still took 
effect after ejecting the disc. Inside a shell, I saw the computer now 
defaulted to a user named "slax", not "rd". So much for "no changes will be 
made to your hard drive".

There are enough outside forces conspiring to knock you off the air, including 
jocks that surf the web through the on-air machine. Curious casual users such 
as myself can eliminate one of them now by being careful where we stick those 
live CDs.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Qt3 vs. Qt4 [WAS: Rivendell-dev Digest, Vol 5, Issue 9]

[Alan Peterson]

Fred,

How does this affect Centos upgrades and updates along the way? We've all 
hesitated at one time or another to click that pop-up box that announces 
updates to certain packages.

Do you foresee a situation where an innocent update to Centos might actually 
cripple RD operation?

-a.
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[RDD] Proper Syntax for RD Import

[Alan Peterson]

Need help with syntax on an RD Import. How *exactly* would I construct the 
following import command:

"Take all the MP3 files in the directory "Desktop/XMAS_SONGS" and import them 
to the Rivendell library Group "XMAS MUSIC"?

I have tried every permutation I can think of and received the dreaded "Invalid 
group specified" command line reply every time. Ive been on the HELP page and 
I'm still not nailing it.

I havent had to do a major add to the Library in a long time so Ive obviously 
gone rusty. Help is appreciated to jump-start my head.

-AP
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[RDD] RD gets a nice mention

[Alan Peterson]

Tom Ray gives a tip of the hat to Rivendell (running on a Mac) in his 
RadioInfo.Com column this week:

http://www.talkers.com/2013/07/24/case-study-how-to-launch-an-independently-syndicated-talk-show/

... a little more than halfway thru the piece.
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[RDD] M-Audio Soundcards

[Alan Peterson]

Anyone else notice that Avid is no longer handling M-Audio soundcards (ie, the 
Deltas), other than a few specific models that work with Pro Tools?

New owner is inMusic, who also handle Akai Professional, Alesis and Numark.

-ap
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[RDD] Nowhere near on topic...

[Alan Peterson]

...but too much fun not to share...

Radio World newspaper, in the 9/23 issue, asked a bunch of us production people 
the question, "You are old enough to have survived the transition from analog 
to digital; what do you miss most about analog? How has digital made your life 
easier? Harder?"

My response:
"I’m pleased to find out, during a tape demonstration to my class, that I can 
still edit out a popped “p” at 15 ips with a razor blade. But sorry to say 
these days, that’s like boasting that you can still change the wick on a whale 
oil lantern."


Feel free to paraphrase when someone asks you to run RD on a 2003 P4 with 512MB 
RAM.
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[RDD] Calculating Start Times (fork of Traffic Import Data)

[Alan Peterson]

>>
The simplest way to accomplish this will be to set each spot to be exactly one 
minute long (1:00) in the 'Forced Length' field of its cart label.  The 
scheduler will then use that length when calculating the start times.
<<
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On a related issue...

I have a "filler" music log of benign, squishy, new age music I use to keep a 
channel busy until scheduled on-the-hour program playback begins. The total 
runtime is calculated by the overall length of the cuts, summed together. But 
these tunes have excruciatingly long fades so I am using SEGUE markers to 
seamlessly blend subsequent songs.

The TRT of all the cuts adds up to around 44 minutes. The actual realtime TRT 
is closer to 43, due to the SEG markers shortening each tune. I have the log 
set to auto-start so the last cut drops off at :59:30, just before the channel 
becomes active at :00:00.

Is there (or can there be) a feature that displays TRT based on the times 
between START -> SEG, as well as START -> END?

-ap
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Re: [RDD] M-Audio Delta 44 +4db Output

[Alan Peterson]

Aren't standards fun?
 
I reviewed the AudioArts Air-1USB broadcast console for Radio World about a 
year ago and was puzzled to see the meters not bouncing around in a manner I'm 
used to seeing. Turns out the USB port was glued down to 0VU = -20 dBFS. 

I'm not done with analog studios as of yet. If I had to, I still could make up 
some gain somewhere with a simple little 5532 circuit. But coaxing a USB UART 
chip to give you a hotter level? IDTS.

-ap



- Original Message -
From: "Gavin Stephens" 
Subject: Re: [RDD] M-Audio Delta 44 +4db Output

According to the manual, that card can only output +14dBu. So there's 10dB 
robbed by not having a proper +24dBu output.

So if you are 'peak' normalising your files to say -13dBFS, the peak output 
of the card when set to +4dBu will still only be +14dBu  -  13dB (if peak 
normlised files to RD default)  =   +1dBu output. Depending on what your 
transmitter is wanting you'll still be less than +4dBu out of the sound 
card.

Even if you files were normalised to peak 0dBFS, the card would only output 
+14dBu max, so if you're average level (if you're not peak normalising) was 
to be +4dBu you've only got 10dB peak headroom for peaks to acheive a 
norminal +4dBu out.

I am so over analogue studios for this reason alone, I like all digital to a 
transmitter that has an AES/EBU  D/A with easy to adjust peak reference on a 
screen or app. No more all over the place output level's by prosumer cards.


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert" 
To: "rivendell-dev" 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:35 PM
Subject: [RDD] M-Audio Delta 44 +4db Output


> This card is supposed to have a +4 out switchable with -10 default.
>
> Envy 24 control panel does not seem to have this switch.
>
> Has anyone managed to get around this ?
>
> System is at a transmitter and the inputs need more level..
> regards
>
> Robert Jeffares
> Big Valley Radio
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Re: [RDD] RD on an artist's distro?

[Alan Peterson]

Wow that was one messed-up URL...
Here's the one that works: 

http://openartisthq.org/

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[RDD] RD on an artist's distro?

[Alan Peterson]

Anyone ever hear of "Open Artist" (www.http://openartisthq.org/)?   Its an 
Ubuntu-based distro tailored for art and multimedia work, with programs for 
image manipulation, 2D and 3D rendering, sketching and painting, some audio and 
video work...

...and Rivendell. 

Yeah, the entire RD suite - along with the unrelated Airtime and Internet DJ 
Console - are part of this distro. Admittedly, that surprised me. 

I'm glad word is getting out about Rivendell to those who normally might not be 
consciously looking for it, but on a distro meant primarily for graphics 
authoring and audio & video production? That's a little like Macy's putting 
toaster-ovens in the Menswear section.

Are there any other multimedia distros out there with RD bundled in?

-ap
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Re: [RDD] Crm, paperles po software.

[Alan Peterson]

Looks like the only freebie offered by sugarcrm is the Community Edition, and 
even then it appears to be just so developers can wrap their heads around it.

If this is Open Source, they certainly are keeping some tight fingers wrapped 
around it...




- Original Message -
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To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:01:47 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Crm, paperles po software.

jorge soto  ha scritto:

> In an effort to save money/paper, there is software that allows you to
> submit production orders without having to print them. They get date/time
> stamped so that no one can say "I turned it on time!" Inaboxonline is an
> example of this type of software, there are many others. I just want to
> know if someone knows of a free/opensource one.


the most famous cme opensource is http://www.sugarcrm.com/





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[RDD] Re RDAirPlay Playout Logistics

[Alan Peterson]

Fastest way there is to use the AudioScience card. On-board timesqueeze 
directly addressable from the RDLibrary cart editor.

T'ain't the cheapest way to go, but its the most effective.
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Re: [RDD] RDAdmin won't accept changes

[Alan Peterson]

"--- Schema Skew ---"


New name for my nephew's punk band! Thanks!

-ap
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[RDD] Open Function using a USB controller

[Alan Peterson]

Hello all. Referring back to this wiki page:
(http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Joystick_port_as_GPI)
...I've started messing around with a hacked USB joystick circuitboard to 
create a simple Start/Stop/Next controller box for my home RD rig. I'm still 
really early into it and making tons of mistakes, but it should work out for me.

Since I'm only using one monitor, I will need to alternate between Airplay, 
RDPanel and CartSlots on the same screen. So say I put each one on its own 
Desktop (Panel on Desktop 1, Airplay on Desktop 2 etc). How about the ability 
to hit a button wired to the USB joystick circuit that would switch desktops? 
The perceived impression by the operator is that each button reveals a desired 
function of Rivendell, when in truth all functions are already open but are on 
selectable rotatable Desktops.

So envision a box with six buttons. The first three
reveal the desired RD element on-screen:
* SELECT RDAIRPLAY
* SELECT RDPANEL
* SELECT RDCARTSLOTS

And the next three have control over
RDAirplay:
* Airplay START
* Airplay STOP
* Airplay TOGGLE (live/auto)


The second set is easy to do. For the first set, this is something that the 
window manager should be doing rather than being a function of RD. Does anyone 
have any thoughts on how this could be done?

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Backtiming multiple events over a song intro

[Alan Peterson]

How was the DOS box able to perform this?

-ap
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Re: [RDD] Trackion DAW Software -- Linux Beta

[Alan Peterson]

Not sure what this is supposed to mean, but I contacted the Tracktion people 
and asked them if Tracktion for Linux will still be free once it clears beta.

James "Woody" Woodburn, one of the product developers, replied, "Certainly for 
the foreseeable future."

Kinda nebulous, but it's better than nothing.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Trackion DAW Software -- Linux Beta

[Alan Peterson]

OK, according to the Tracktion web page, "The Tracktion 4 Linux version is 
initially free to everyone during the current public beta phase at 
www.tracktion.com/linux". 

So it won't be free once it clears beta.

I'm not concerned that it won't be free down the road -- its $60, and I spend 
that much on gas each week. But, is it going to be Open Source, or just a 
Windows rewrite that's welded shut?  Lotta questions...

-ap
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Re: [RDD] Trackion DAW Software -- Linux Beta

[Alan Peterson]

Free or not, anybody want to download it and give it a try?

I dont have an Ubuntu machine, but I suppose I can knock together a 
Frankenputer out of spare parts and give it a whirl.

AP
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[RDD] Trackion DAW Software -- Linux Beta

[Alan Peterson]

Hopefully this may be of interest to some... there is a beta version of 
TRACKTION - an audio workstation software suite - available now under Linux.

This was a promising DAW under Windows for awhile. Mackie (the mixer guys) 
picked it up as part of its product line and released it only recently, back 
into the hands of the original designers who are busting their humps to make it 
a legitimate player in the DAW arena.  In so doing, they crafted Mac and Linux 
versions to widen its appeal; and select Behringer mics and mixers are now 
bundled with Tracktion.

At this point, they made it compatible with Ubuntu 12 only and it is still in 
beta. The graphic on the webpage proclaims "Free", but I'm unsure as to whether 
that refers to the beta as free, the software itself as free (when ready), or 
just that the OS is free.

Lots of RD users have audio editors we prefer when crafting our radio product 
for air. This adds one more to the mix, beyond Ardour and Audacity. It will be 
interesting to see how this shakes out.

If anyone's interested: http://www.tracktion.com/linux

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[RDD] Revisiting Topic -- Opening Windows Floppies

[Alan Peterson]

Hello all. Several weeks ago, I posted (off-topic) here asking if anyone had a 
preferred or suggested Linux distro that would allow me to read, open, copy and 
offload data from old 3.5 floppy disks. My Windows XP machines kept insisting 
that the Win98 disks I was trying to open were unreadable and asking would I 
like to reformat them? I was certain there was an incompatibility between 
reading FAT and NTFS file formats, while the general consensus here was that 
the material on the disks was degraded and too far gone to be readable, even 
after I tried swapping floppy drives to see if one worked better than the other.

I'm writing again tonight to happily proclaim that a copy of "ArtistX" - a 
multimedia distro based on Ubuntu and running on ten-year-old Dell hardware - 
effortlessly uncorked each and every disk in my collection: two containing 
dozens of original articles I wrote for Radio World in the 1990s. Not only 
that, with a little messing with FSTAB, I also got the machine to mount and 
read a parallel-port ZIP 100 drive, recovering material containing my wife's 
life history off half-dozen old ZIP 100 disks. Everything is now backed up to 
DVDs and a USB Flash drive, all to be recopied onto the next popular storage 
format that comes along.

Being able to recover all this material was very important and meaningful to 
me. The Penguin pulls it off again.

-Al P.



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[RDD] What the h377 is...

[Alan Peterson]

... "Winki 3"?

The MSI people sent me some junk email for a mobo they manufacture. Supposedly 
since 2009, these boards have contained an on-board Linux distro called Winki 3 
that they consider "the most practical way to be online in the shortest time."

I'm not going to ask if Rivendell runs under it. I'm going to ask just what in 
tarnation Winki 3 is. Apparently it's nothing that has strayed far from the MSI 
camp, as the web is rather quiet about it.

Anyone know more?

-ap
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Re: [RDD] Touch Laptop

[Alan Peterson]

From: "Cowboy" 
>>>
 Find one somewhere you can play with for a minute. ( Best Buy, whatever ). 
Boot up a LiveCD and you should know very quickly.
<<<


Hahaha... I realize that's the only way to know for sure, but I may as well ask 
them for the keys to their alarm system, for all the good that'll do me. Those 
Best Buy floor-drones know just enough to sell me a laptop and sure won't let 
me jam a live CD anytime soon into their precious display models.
Guess its off to the *real* computer store.

-a.

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Re: [RDD] Timings

[Alan Peterson]

Does it make a difference if the log is being generated on the same machine 
handling the playout? I would think with that much brainpower being devoted to 
uninterrupted play, log generation happens in those little moments when 
RDAirplay is catching its breath.

Would it be any faster if a log is generated on a dedicated off-air machine?

-a.
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[RDD] Touch Laptop

[Alan Peterson]

Seeing on the Tiger Direct website that they have an ASUS "Vivobook" laptop 
(item A50-116407) for $399, tricked out pretty well: touchscreen, 500GB drive, 
i3 proc, 4GB RAM and a few other shiny sparkly things.

On the downside, it clocks at an unimpressive 1.8 GHz and comes with (ew...) 
Win8.

How viable would this sound as a portable touchscreen RD box, for use at 
remotes et al? 

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Re: [RDD] Jazzler >> RD

[Alan Peterson]

From: "Wayne Merricks" 
>>>
I would go with 2 hard drives in a Linux software raid 1 so you can survive a 
HD crash without going silent.
<<< 

...and a correspondingly robust power supply. If the original PS was marginal 
to begin with, its really going to chug uphill when it has to spin up a second 
disk.

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Re: [RDD] Distorted/clipping output after 1.5 seconds

[Alan Peterson]

Ive seen that happen on soundcards where the sample rate is "glued down", 
instead of being configurable. 
Rather than reinstall RD repeatedly, swap out the soundcard with an entirely 
different piece (rather than another of the same) and see what happens.

-AP




- Original Message -
From: "Wayne Merricks" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 7:35:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Distorted/clipping output after 1.5 seconds



Hi, 

I've noticed this but haven't managed to find a cause. Weird thing is I follow 
the same install every time and this only seems to happen for the first few 
reboots (if it happens at all). 

It sounds stupid but its almost like the sound starts and then it gets played 
again a second or so later so you end up with double the volume. 

I guess double check rdalsaconfig. 

Thinking about it the last time this happened I'd used the repos, since then 
I've installed from source on the same machine (with the repo stuff still in 
place) and its been fine. 

Other times I've just given up and reinstalled. I can't see any logic in it but 
hope its a least a start. 

Regards, 

Wayne 


On 09/05/13 22:47, Peter Claes wrote: 



Hi Guys, 

I am doing an new install of rivendell 2.5 on 12.04. 

Using a creative X-fi 20k1 card and an Intel ICH6. 

Audio plays well for 1.5 seconds and out of the blue it distorts so much that 
de VU meters are stuck in CLIP. 


I had the same problem on a different install, the soundblast clipped after 1.5 
secs. but the intel HDA did not. back then, my guess was it a hardware problem 
with the soundblaster. 


I checked the audiocards with audacity, works. Tested the converted files with 
audacity, works too. 


Leaves me puzzled. 


Did anyone had the same problem ? Can it be solved ? 


Thanks 
Peter 

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[RDD] Internal processing, revisited

[Alan Peterson]

Back in July of 2011, I posted this message about a processor plug-in I found:


- Original Message -
From: "Alan Peterson" 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Internal processing

I see where Stereo Tool 6.10 comes in a Linux version. Don't know if it's a 
realtime plug in or can be made as such, but it looks interesting.
The free version includes a Noise gate, FM hiss remover, AGC, 10-band 
compressor and final limiter and a bunch of other bits. A paid-for version adds 
in FM stereo encoding and RDS encoding, as long as its used with a 192 kHz 
soundcard.

http://www.stereotool.com/


Has anything changed in the interim? Is anyone working with this as a station 
processor? Sure like to know.

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Re: [RDD] Cuts playing in an odd order

[Alan Peterson]

Back in the day, a pile of (wishfully) dayparted commercial cuts ended up on 
the same cart due to:
1) A shortage of functioning cartridges at the station, and
2) A lazy traffic director not interested in entering four cart numbers for the 
same client.

Believe me, I've worked at plenty of stations over the years which were in that 
boat. And proper rotation was never 100% assured.

I too would be pleased to see a sequential cut-play function; or as my Uncle 
Julius would have said, "Vell-ll, it'd be nyshe..."

-ap
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Re: [RDD] win32 binaries

[Alan Peterson]

typo: make that rivendellaudio.org



- Original Message -
From: "Andy Brown" 
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:41:40 AM
Subject: [RDD] win32 binaries

Hi,

I'm hoping somebody can point me in the right direction, I'm after
Rivendell 2.5.0 win32 binaries as want to provide the logedit/manager
programs to run on windows management machines on the network.

The original location:
ftp://ftp.salemradiolabs.com/pub/srlabs/rivendell/win32/ is showing as
down at the moment, is this still operational or is there an alternative
location for the binaries now please?

Regards,
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Re: [RDD] win32 binaries

[Alan Peterson]

Salem Radio Labs appears to have morphed into Rvendellaudio.org.  You may get 
lucky there.



- Original Message -
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To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:41:40 AM
Subject: [RDD] win32 binaries

Hi,

I'm hoping somebody can point me in the right direction, I'm after
Rivendell 2.5.0 win32 binaries as want to provide the logedit/manager
programs to run on windows management machines on the network.

The original location:
ftp://ftp.salemradiolabs.com/pub/srlabs/rivendell/win32/ is showing as
down at the moment, is this still operational or is there an alternative
location for the binaries now please?

Regards,
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Re: [RDD] Request - Ability to add a stop in rdairplay

[Alan Peterson]

From: "Fernando Della Torre" 

>>> just double click any audio event and you will be able to change the 
>>> transition. <<<


There's a scene from the final "Shrek" animated movie where the ogres hold 
their noses shut, and blow; causing their trumpet-shaped ears to emit the 
sounds of hunting horns. Shrek looks on in amazement and says, "I didn't know 
we could do that!"  His wife Fiona repeats the same line at the end of the 
movie. 

Why bring this up? Because I've been using RD since around 2006 or so, and *I* 
never knew about the double-click feature either! Hah! In the interests of full 
disclosure, I work where we run long-form programming, so I've never had the 
need to change a transition in an active log, ergo I would not have known about 
it. 

I think I'll go outside and blow out my ears. Maybe I can do the ogre trick now 
as well. Thanks Fernando.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Request - Ability to add a stop in rdairplay

[Alan Peterson]

I'd create a cart that only contains an RML "PS" (stop) command. Then ADD it 
where you want it to go.

If its a matter of your presenters wanting to stop the log down to talk then 
return to automated playout, just have them switch momentarily to MANUAL or 
LIVE ASSIST.

-AP

- Original Message -
From: "Fernando Della Torre" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:07:12 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Request - Ability to add a stop in rdairplay



Hi, I think that if you change next event's transition type to "STOP" you'll 
get what you want, if I understood it. 


Regards, 




Fernando Della Torre 

(16) 8137-1240 
(16) 9137-2886 




2013/5/1 Andy Brown < a...@thebmwz3.co.uk > 


Hi folks, 

Firstly, thank you so much for all the help I've received. The community 
station has gone online for its initial trial this week and getting 
great reviews and the presenters are getting to grips with Rivendell now. 

A couple of points have been raised and one that I realised seems a big 
bit missing. 

Generally they run in Auto through presenter-led programs, this allows 
segues and other parts of the show to flow smoothly without worrying 
about hitting start. 
However, they would like to be able to add a forced STOP into this. I 
initially assumed you could click ADD, and insert a meta marker with a 
STOP transition, allowing them to force a stop at a certain point coming 
up in their run-order. 
However this appears missing. Would this make a sensible feature request 
(and so will load into mantis) and would it be something that can be 
added in fairly easily? 

Thanks! 

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Re: [RDD] Confused! Talk In/Out Segue In/Out

[Alan Peterson]

I have to agree; waveform display of an on-air cut is overkill. I can't imagine 
an on-air scenario where this was necessary, unless the jock was doing a mashup 
mix show and wanted to be able to loop and isolate portions of a song for 
creative scratch-mixing.

In which case, MIXXX (www.mixxx.org) is probably a solution you'd be interested 
in, running on a non-RD machine.

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Re: [RDD] Two studios

[Alan Peterson]

So how about separate logs for separate shows, so changes made to one's show 
doesn't botch the others? 

The classic "radio station broadcast day" log concept has been with us since we 
started spraying RF into the atmosphere last century, but it may not be your 
best solution here. Create a different log for each presenter. The entire day's 
output can be merged and rendered at midnight if you truly need to have a 
24-hour record of playout.

-a.



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To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25:21 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Two studios



Thanks Alan, 


Yes you have understood correctly. Perhaps a use-case example might clarify. In 
our community station we have quite a few "specialist" shows. The presenter 
comes in an hour or so before their show to sort out the playout order etc from 
a machine in the office. This is then readily available to them when they start 
their show and has not disturbed the on-air presenter. 


We have played with rdlogedit, but the problem there is that any ad-hoc changes 
the on-air presenter has made get overwritten the moment the log is saved 
(assuming auto log refresh is on), which has potential to royally mess with our 
output. 


Jay 



On 26 April 2013 14:19, Alan Peterson < apeter...@radioamerica.org > wrote: 


If I'm reading you right, you want to be able to make on-the-fly changes to an 
active log now running in RDAirplay, and have that change immediately reflected 
on all machines running that particular log, correct? 

As I understand the flow on my own small-scale system, such changes need to be 
made and saved in LogEdit; after which all machines sense the alteration in the 
log and are prompted to refresh. 

But you know... for your own purpose, it does sound like a good idea -- the 
ability to make a change on a "master" RDAirplay window and have it fan out to 
all subservient computers tracking the same log. I'd make it an optional (turn 
on/off) feature though, otherwise it's one more way for live jocks to 
commandeer the log and create havoc. 

AP 



- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Camp" < t...@wnsp.com > 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" < 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > 

Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:58:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Two studios 






Greetings, 
Timed events don't have to be starts, they can be 'make next'. 
Is there no human intervention in this scenario? 
Cheers 

On 26 Apr 2013 02:13, "Jay Eames" < alcham...@googlemail.com > wrote: 



Firstly, damn autocorrect on the iPhone! The name's Jay! :) 


Secondly, thanks Stan. I know we can use timed starts etc to move the log on - 
my question would be more this. If both studios are running on the same log, 
and someone makes a change to the log in Studio 1 - that change, as I 
understand it, would not show up in Studio 2 playout. Also, if the timed starts 
fire then you would end up with both studios playing at the same time. 


I am just wondering if anyone has any practical experience of this kind of 
setup. We are about to move into our new premises and will be setting up two 
studios - and ideally either or both of which would be able to go to air or be 
used for production at any one time. I know that in the paid software I have 
used in the past, you can mark one machine as "on air", and the other(s) would 
just follow the log without playing out. 



On 26 April 2013 08:04, Stan Fotinos < sfoti...@rtrfm.com.au > wrote: 


Hi Kay 

If I understand correctly what you are trying to achieve is time 
synchronisation of your log. Using timed starts in your log and "Make 
Next" might do the trick for you. 

Thanks 

Stan 



On 26/04/13 1:41 PM, Jay Eames wrote: 
> Thanks or the reply. I think my initial question wasn't quite clear enough. 
> My bad! 
> 
> We gave several machines networked on Rivendell, all sharing the same 
> database and var/snd - the question is more on how to run the same log in two 
> studios so we can switch between them during the day 
> 
> Kay 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 26 Apr 2013, at 06:38, al davis < ad...@freeelectron.net > wrote: 
> 
>> On Friday 26 April 2013, Jay Eames wrote: 
>>> Has anyone used Rivendell in a setup where there is more than 
>>> one live studio available? As in, where either studio can be 
>>> used for the live output, and each studio has it's own 
>>> playout machine, and they both share the same log? 
>> We use it in 4 studios at 3 sites. 
>> 
>> The two at the same site share files and sql on a local net. 
>> There is also an office computer that shares and is u

Re: [RDD] Confused! Talk In/Out Segue In/Out

[Alan Peterson]

It's not the coolest solution out there, but the simplest method is to put a 
text notation in the Artist or Title line of the cart:

POINTER SISTERS 
I'M SO EXCITED (end talk 3:51)

The jocks are going to be watching the clock anyway.

-ap



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To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:58:47 AM
Subject: [RDD] Confused! Talk In/Out Segue In/Out

Hi folks,

Still battling my way through ready to launch a community station
shortly and one issue cropping up from the guys programming in music is
the confusion over the different markers.

The main confusion is over the TalkStart/TalkStop and SegueStart/SegueEnd.

As in many songs we need multiple entries for both.

E.g. at the start of a song we set a TalkStart immediately and a
TalkStop just before the vocals of the song comes in.
Then we would ideally need to place another TalkStart and TalkStop
towards the end of the song where the last vocals are sung and its just
musical until the end of the song.

Similar for SegueStart/SegueEnd we have cases where having one at start
one at end would also be useful, is this a fair summary or am I missing
something here?

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Re: [RDD] Two studios

[Alan Peterson]

If I'm reading you right, you want to be able to make on-the-fly changes to an 
active log now running in RDAirplay, and have that change immediately reflected 
on all machines running that particular log, correct? 

As I understand the flow on my own small-scale system, such changes need to be 
made and saved in LogEdit; after which all machines sense the alteration in the 
log and are prompted to refresh.

But you know... for your own purpose, it does sound like a good idea -- the 
ability to make a change on a "master" RDAirplay window and have it fan out to 
all subservient computers tracking the same log. I'd make it an optional (turn 
on/off) feature though, otherwise it's one more way for live jocks to 
commandeer the log and create havoc.

AP


- Original Message -
From: "Tim Camp" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 8:58:50 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Two studios




Greetings, 
Timed events don't have to be starts, they can be 'make next'. 
Is there no human intervention in this scenario? 
Cheers 

On 26 Apr 2013 02:13, "Jay Eames" < alcham...@googlemail.com > wrote: 



Firstly, damn autocorrect on the iPhone! The name's Jay! :) 


Secondly, thanks Stan. I know we can use timed starts etc to move the log on - 
my question would be more this. If both studios are running on the same log, 
and someone makes a change to the log in Studio 1 - that change, as I 
understand it, would not show up in Studio 2 playout. Also, if the timed starts 
fire then you would end up with both studios playing at the same time. 


I am just wondering if anyone has any practical experience of this kind of 
setup. We are about to move into our new premises and will be setting up two 
studios - and ideally either or both of which would be able to go to air or be 
used for production at any one time. I know that in the paid software I have 
used in the past, you can mark one machine as "on air", and the other(s) would 
just follow the log without playing out. 



On 26 April 2013 08:04, Stan Fotinos < sfoti...@rtrfm.com.au > wrote: 


Hi Kay 

If I understand correctly what you are trying to achieve is time 
synchronisation of your log. Using timed starts in your log and "Make 
Next" might do the trick for you. 

Thanks 

Stan 



On 26/04/13 1:41 PM, Jay Eames wrote: 
> Thanks or the reply. I think my initial question wasn't quite clear enough. 
> My bad! 
> 
> We gave several machines networked on Rivendell, all sharing the same 
> database and var/snd - the question is more on how to run the same log in two 
> studios so we can switch between them during the day 
> 
> Kay 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 26 Apr 2013, at 06:38, al davis < ad...@freeelectron.net > wrote: 
> 
>> On Friday 26 April 2013, Jay Eames wrote: 
>>> Has anyone used Rivendell in a setup where there is more than 
>>> one live studio available? As in, where either studio can be 
>>> used for the live output, and each studio has it's own 
>>> playout machine, and they both share the same log? 
>> We use it in 4 studios at 3 sites. 
>> 
>> The two at the same site share files and sql on a local net. 
>> There is also an office computer that shares and is used for 
>> uploads. 
>> 
>> The other sites get scheduled backups of the main. Sound files 
>> are transferred as ogg, so they act as hot standby computers 
>> that work even if the main is down. 
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[RDD] Non-RD Question: Floppies

[Alan Peterson]

So far the web has been of no use to me; is there a way to read old (Win95,98) 
floppy diskettes under Linux? I have a considerable amount of material (old 
Radio World articles, MIDI compositions etc) that I want converted to a more 
modern storage format.

Stuffing them into a WinXP or Win2K box results in a request to reformat the 
disk, and I definitely don't want that. Seeking good ideas from anybody. Thanks.

-AP 
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Re: [RDD] Pros And Cons oof Upgrading from 1.5.2

[Alan Peterson]

I like the newer features meant for live-assist interaction, on the assumption 
that a human is along for the ride and is not just switching on Rivendell for 
walkaway operation.

These two particular features may not be of much use over at RFA, but work well 
for me. They include the new CartSlots which allow a user to load audio files 
for on-the-fly playback *without* having to actually import them and write them 
to carts first; and a new button arrangement that lets a user jump immediately 
to a position in the log to examine all elements in a particular hour. Much 
handier than 'tromboning' the log window (sliding to an hour, overshooting it, 
then sliding back and forth to the position you want).

I think the biggest innovation has been the introduction of the appliance disc. 
I know at RFA you guys can build anything, but a lot of users just want to plug 
in and go with a minimum of aggravation. Where a typical RD installation of a 
few years ago meant a user password, a MySQL password, troubleshooting the 
program when the installation refused to budge, etc., having an automation 
system to-go made RD a lot more viable and desirable for radio users looking 
for affordable automation.

Again, perhaps not very useful for RFA's needs. But salvation for a guy like me.

-Alan Peterson
(former RFA parttimer, 2001-02)



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To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:52:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Pros And Cons oof Upgrading from 1.5.2



I have migrated through several versions of Rivendell and have determined that 
sooner or later all PC's are going to be 64 bit, so migrated to 2.0 when the 
appliance disk came out. We had to make a few adjustments to accomodate the 
change from suse to centos as some of our scripts had to be tweaked otherwise 
it was plug and go. Now we had enough 64 bit machines so no big expense, and 
the 32 bit machines became production and mail units. Our biggest enemy is heat 
followed by power surges which defy anything in their path. You will have to 
plan if you have a number of terminals to upgrade, and that may involve putting 
together a plan that enables you to cut to the new system in one hit, one hit, 
or a series of stages. You won't have a problem with the system or the OS you 
will, it sounds, have to be very clever about the migration. All the best 
Robert Jeffares 



On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Todd Baker < bak...@rfa.org > wrote: 


HI All: 

This is a quick question, since alot of the community here has upgraded their 
Rivendell machines to the 2.0 architecture, I was wondering if people could 
chime in about the advantages of upgrading. 

What would you say is the biggest advantage to upgrading. What are the 
downsides if you have any. Also any pitfalls that people ran into after 
upgrading, and any other insights that people could impart. 

We are running a relatively old version here at RFA and it will take a 
herculean effort for us to uppgrade the studios. Probably would require 
Operating system upgrades first, and since we are running SUSE (10) I have been 
reading that other Distro's would probably be better (Fred is using Centos if I 
am correct). 

I would appreciate any thoughts from people. 

Thanks for your time, 

Best Regards, 

Todd Baker Radio Free Asia 
Washington D.C. 
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[RDD] Scripts and Why They Work

[Alan Peterson]

As both a pro and casual user of Rivendell, I want to take a moment here to 
recognize Michael Smith and Robert Orr in this forum; not only for sharing 
clever solutions in auto-playing Saskatoon temperature carts and creating 
Airplay lists, but for explaining how the scripts they use work. 

A lot of times, a published scripted solution to a Rivendell issue will include 
little more than "Try it" as a footnote. If it weren't for Robert going back a 
second time to say, "XXX grabs the text and YYY strips out everything but the 
temperature", I'd have just rolled through the whole subject with a headache, 
without stopping to try to understand a lick of it.

It is fantastic that Rivendell was designed to not be a sealed-box solution to 
radio automation, and that users are free to write and use whatever they need 
to make the system work for them. But users have varying degrees of competency, 
tempered by their trepidation to want to stretch and learn more. When someone 
stops to explain the method they published, we all become better users. I would 
like to see more RD Power Users doing that for the community.

It's still going to take me a little while to figure out how 
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[RDD] Modern Motherboard for RD

[Alan Peterson]

On the topic of 32/64-bit hardware discussed in another thread, I'm taking a 
new look at the $100 DZ77SL mobo from Intel, tricked out to use anything from a 
Core i3 to an i7 processor and able to output TEN channels of audio.

I will concede it's probably not ultra-audiophile quality like you would get 
from an ASI card, but for budget low-power operations (like someone I 
know...harrumph...) it's likely "good enough for jazz".

Is it possible this could at last be a self-contained multi-output solution for 
RD users to have separate feeds for dedicated audio tasks; i.e, one stereo pair 
for Main Log Program, one pair for RDPanel and another for CartSlot, a single 
line for Cue, etc?  Can we now use basic commodity hardware to have separate 
outputs for separate faders?

In looking over the very confusing hi-def audio specs from Intel, I get the 
feeling it needs to see synchronized audio - as what you might get from a 
Surround Sound stream consisting of interlinked audio files that have to be 
read all at once. If someone is familiar with this board *or* this technology, 
chime in: Can I configure RD to use a board such as this for multiple separate 
audio outputs? 

Thanks for the info.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] Best distro for Rivendell

[Alan Peterson]

I started out a few years ago on an old version of the 32-bit appliance, which 
I'm not sure is still around or in active development.  The hardware world 
moved ahead to 64-bit and so did RD, which isn't a bad idea; trying to do 
modern things on 10-year-old hardware will just lead to problems.

A few days ago, I posted that I found a source of 64-bit refurbs for under $200 
per machine, allowing me to run the latest and greatest version of RD on 
ultra-affordable iron. This to me is the way to go. 

But if 32-bit is still where its at for many users, RRAbuntu is the likeliest 
default to consider.

-ap

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Re: [RDD] Best distro for Rivendell

[Alan Peterson]

Mike said:
"...Gnome works better than unity given Rivendell's gui is a fixed size."

Al says:
Sure do wish there was a way to change that.  But that's a topic for another 
thread, not this one.

-ap
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[RDD] For "lite" users looking for budget hardware

[Alan Peterson]

Hi all --- this is for users like myself who need only basic audio management 
and automation and dont need to fire salvos, capture multiple audio sources or 
other complicated processes.

The national chain store "Micro Center" is moving out a lot of dual-core 
desktop refurbs that I have found run the 64-bit version of RD quite capably. 
Many are priced under $200. Combined with an M-Audio 1010LT card, you have a 
stable and affordable main studio playout box that's hard to beat. These also 
make great, inexpensive "sacrificial lamb" machines that operators can train on 
off-line without blowing up the main on-air system.

I have better luck with H-P refurbs than most anything else; Dell boxes don't 
like seeing additional "unknown" hard drives installed and have refused to boot 
for me when so wired. 

FYI.

-Al P.
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[RDD] Fast question re Timed Starts vs Timed Stops

[Alan Peterson]

According to the latest ROG (Sec 5.2.2.1): 
>>>
Start Immediately
As implied by the name, if the event is set to start immediately, it will be 
started as soon as the hard time is reached.  Any currently playing events in 
the log will be stopped down.
<<<

I have an event with multiple elements (relay, jingle, pause) that happens at 
:28:50 after the hour. The log is currently idle because the audio source is a 
live in-studio person. Even if the first element inside the hard-timed event is 
marked PLAY, will things stop and wait until 28:50, or will it just jump ahead 
and start playing after the previous event regardless of the clock time?  

If I'm reading the rule properly, the log is going to sit and wait until 28:50 
to execute the command, no matter what, if I have HARD START TIME and START 
IMMEDIATELY checked. Or am I wrong, and will the system just jump ahead and 
play the event regardless of the hard time, because it shows a PLAY transition?

For that matter, what is the advantage of having a TIMED event where the first 
element might have a STOP transition command?

AP

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Re: [RDD] Music Scheduling Software

[Alan Peterson]

Dr. Donna Halper up in Boston used to be associated with a pretty good music 
scheduling system called Results 98, which I believe has been out of active 
development for a number of years (at least judging by the name).

I've never asked, but wouldn't it be a trip if she could be convinced to 
re-release it as an open-source product?

ap
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Re: [RDD] Rdremote for Android

[Alan Peterson]

Tim - Forgive me if I sound like some ignoramus too slow on the uptake or 
someone who's skepticism has gotten him in trouble too many times in the past, 
but I got bit in the [donkey] a lot yesterday.  

Is this on the level, or am I seeing a really well-done April Fool's gag?

AP





- Original Message -
From: "Tim Camp" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 2:00:22 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Rdremote for Android




Thanks Fred, 
Plans are to release when ready, still have some install setup parameters to be 
built into a settings menu. 
Like Rivendell this is not exactly install and go... 
There are things that will vary some with hardware and studio setups. 
Trying to get the whole setup procedure written down, a little bit of 'how did 
I do that'. 
Basically as I said in a previous post, getting past the android layer so you 
can use Linux. 
I will post instructions and apk file hopefully soon. 
Long range plans are to see how folks use it take their input and go from 
there, after all I don't consider myself a programmer really, more of a 
determined hacker. 


Cheers 
On 1 Apr 2013 09:18, "Fred Gleason" < fr...@paravelsystems.com > wrote: 


On Mar 30, 2013, at 14:33 19, Tim Camp wrote: 

> Screenshot 
> http://92zew.net/RdRemote.png 

Very nice, Tim! 

What are your long-term plans for this? Is the code available somewhere? I'd 
like to put a link on rivendellaudio.org if you're ok with that. 

Cheers! 


|-| 
| Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | 
| | Paravel Systems | 
|-| 
| A room without books is like a body without a soul. | 
| -- Cicero | 
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Re: [RDD] Rdremote for Android

[Alan Peterson]

>>>
From: "Tim Camp" 

...the Sheldon used 'panic' button Stop. 
Thoughts in general? 
<<<

Who's Sheldon?

:^D
-ap

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[RDD] Take a Letter, Maria(DB)

[Alan Peterson]

Until about 15 minutes ago, I had never heard of MariaDB - a 
community-developed fork of MySQL, with development led by the guy who founded 
MySQL. So I read up on it.

Wikipedia suggests there may be an "uncertainty of MySQL license status under 
its current Oracle ownership". Given this as the impetus for launching and 
maintaining the project, is this something that the Rivendell development team 
might adopt down the road?

ap
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[RDD] DIY MIDI Control Modules

[Alan Peterson]

I think I remember in recent times, someone was asking about operating 
Rivendell using MIDI data; I believe an Arduino was involved. Since I can't 
find the message, I'm just going about it by memory.

If this is still an interest on anyone's part, here's a company you might be 
interested in knowing about. Livid Instruments makes a series of DIY boards, 
including one called the "Omni Board" which can receive pots, encoders, arcade 
buttons et al to construct a custom controller that does exactly what you want, 
in a configuration most ergonomically comfortable for you.

This is just controller hardware -- you still need to flesh out how to make the 
box talk to RD. But if nothing else, it's one of those websites that makes you 
smile, nod, think, and say, "OK, now that's cool..."

http://lividinstruments.com/hardware_builder.php

-AP
Washington DC
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Re: [RDD] Voice Tracker slow insert of track in log

[Alan Peterson]

Peter - - For the benefit of those of us with little or no expertise, could you 
dissect and explain what this command does and how it does it? 

Where I come from, "flush log" has an entirely different (and unsavory) 
connotation.

-a.
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- Original Message -
From: "Peter Claes" 

Hi Guys, 
I Think I figured out a solution. 
Added : innodb - flush - log-at-trx - commit = 2 to my.cnf 
Now the voicetracker responds in less than a second to the save button. 
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[RDD] HP Rolls Out an All-In-One Linux PC

[Alan Peterson]

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/hp-launch-ubuntu-all-in-one-pc-for-349
http://h20386.www2.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=ECC_BUNDLE_3836543&opt=&sel=PCDT

At the moment, it's only available in the UK, and intended as a "kitchen 
computer; for student use, or a decent, cheap first time PC". Its not a 
screamer, but at least it's a start.
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Re: [RDD] Academia --- RD in NYC

[Alan Peterson]

>>>one area that would help for student/college radio would be a web-based 
>>>system for log-creation and editing. <<<

>>> There are a few areas that could be developed to top the industry in 
>>> features, such as:
1. Remote Voicetracking 2. Simplified Remote control GPIO 3. Ability to tie 
Macro carts to stop/start events behind the scenes (to mute satellite audio 
automagically when playing stop sets) 4. Simplified dynamic GPIO mapping in a 
grid capacity such as what is done for Clocks. 5. An "easy button" for WAN or 
double-redundant audio distribution <<<


In the interests of gaining more interest in the academic community, and moving 
quickly through the above wishlist, would Rivendell make a good candidate for 
the "Summer of Code"?

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[RDD] Nuts ... First Intel, now this...

[Alan Peterson]

First Intel announced some weeks back it was phasing out motherboard 
manufacture. Now comes word that Seagate will phase out its 2.5-inch 7200 RPM 
notebook-sized disk drives by the end of 2013:

http://liliputing.com/2013/03/seagate-drops-7200rpm-laptop-hard-drives-to-focus-on-ssdhdd-hybrids.html

Not the worst news, though; these drives are by no means a preferred favorite 
in a working RD system (they are primarily laptop drives), and Seagate plans to 
replace the line with its hybrid solid-state/hard drive 
(http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/laptop-solid-state-hybrid-drive/)

Changing world, mate ... 
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[RDD] Academia --- RD in NYC

[Alan Peterson]

Hello all; I'm just back from a stimulating weekend in New York City, 
addressing college radio students at the annual conference for the 
Intercollegiate Broadcasting System (IBS). One of my workshops - "Run Your 
Entire Station on Free Software" - was accompanied by a weekend-long running 
demo of Rivendell (the RRABUNTU version) on a refurbed HP dual-core computer I 
picked up for $135. The machine was propped up on a table in the common area, a 
short 12-minute looping music & promo log was loaded up (as were a dozen or so 
goofy sound effects and popular movie soundbites on the Panel), and a sign 
beckoned students and advisors alike to click away at anything they wanted to.

There were some objections, of course ("No one knows anything about Linux", 
"The IT people wouldn't let us connect this up", "We're happy with Simian", 
etc) but needless to say, folks were interested. Watch for a spurt of downloads 
over the next couple of weeks to addresses ending in "edu".

There are a number of positives to be considered when using Rivendell in an 
academic setting -- not the least of which is that today's youngsters are used 
to free software and apps: First, there's always going to be an enthusiastic 
penguin-head somewhere on campus who can be tapped as a tech guru (give him his 
own copy of RD and a pizza, then watch the fun begin); Second, student radio 
stations cannot always swing thou$andS to buy a commercial system and so end up 
using WinAmp or the iTunes player as their audio management system. Knowing 
that an Open Source pro-level system is available, they will be interested; and 
Third, colleges everywhere have pallets full of retired computers from other 
departments (considered "too slow to run Windows"), piled up and waiting for 
surplus sale or recycling. Ask the department in charge if they'd send three of 
the old junkers over to the station for free -- preferably dual-core or better. 
All that remains is the sweat portion: load RD and 
 music, hook into the LAN and go.

Since I am invited to this conference every year, RD will now be making the 
trip along with me every time. And I encourage any users who read and post to 
this discussion to make a case for it at an educational venue near you.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] USB control surfaces

[Alan Peterson]

You'd probably need only 1/3 the features that controller offers. In the heat 
of battle, mixing for radio needs to be a lot simpler.

Admittedly, I am inspired by that Leo Bodnar USB Joystick circuit card 
suggested by Lyonel Bernard. I have an old Sparta five-pot mixer shell that has 
been pretty useless for many years out in my garage. One of these cards might 
be a good reason to revive it.



- Original Message From: Jay Ashworth
Here's one that looks *very* nice: the Vestax VCM-600.  
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Re: [RDD] USB control surfaces

[Alan Peterson]

Afraid I can't be of any help, but I *did* want to share two of the coolest 
controllers on the planet I've found:

http://www.shipdriver.com/
and
http://www.raildriver.com/

These are for simulators and hobby use, but admit it -- they're a hoot. If 
there were only a way to make these work practically in a radio studio ... hmmm 
... (http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/35962339.html)

BTW, the parent company, PI Engineering, makes the X-Keys line of USB button 
panels and controllers, many of which are ideal for human pushbutton control of 
Rivendell 
(http://www.piengineering.com/xkeys/xk16stick.php).

AP
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Re: [RDD] New installation not happening

[Alan Peterson]

2nd attempt at a new installation this morning. 

After getting the updates, I got these warnings:
>>>
FATAL: Error inserting asihpi (/lib/modules/2.6.18-194.el5/extra/asihpi.ko): No 
such device.
Starting Rivendell system daemons[FAILED]

rivendell-2.4.0-1.i386
Starting MySQL:  [  OK  ]

Starting Rivendell system daemons[FAILED]

Stopping httpd: [  OK  ]

Starting httpd: [  OK  ]
<<<

Any chance its the asihpi causing this on my machine? Anytime I see the word 
FATAL, it kinda gets my attention.

-AP
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Re: [RDD] New installation not happening

[Alan Peterson]

Its a 64-bit machine & I intend to continue to use it as a Rivendell system in 
my crazy basement music rig, after the conference. 

How does RRAbuntu behave on a 64-bitter?

AP


- Original Message -
From: "Geoff Barkman" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:58:20 AM
Subject: Re: [RDD] New installation not happening

If your only demonstrating... why not take RRAbuntu on a live cd...
its over 2 years old... but should work on your hardware.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Alan Peterson
 wrote:
> Folks - -
>
> I've picked up a refurbed HP/Compaq DC7700 dual-core PC (2.4 GHz, 2GB RAM), 
> for the intent of demonstrating Rivendell at an upcoming college radio 
> conference in NYC. I grabbed the appliance disc from the Paravel website and 
> went to town.
>
> The CentOS splash screen freezes at startup, but I can live with that. The 
> bootup steps shown on the screen indicate that the RD daemons failed. When I 
> try to restart them under the SERVICES menu, I get the following message:
>
>>>>
> rivendell failed. The error was: rdcatchd: aborting - multiple instances not 
> allowed Starting Rivendell system daemons[FAILED]
> <<<
>
> I've gone online with the Package Updater and pulled in the newest updates 
> and dependencies for LibMad and RD, so I believe I'm running the freshest 
> version in town. But no success.
>
> Is there anything I'm forgetting, ignoring or botching? Is it possible this 
> HP model isnt a good candidate to run this on? Any suggestions are 
> appreciated -- my conference starts Friday 3/1.
>
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[RDD] New installation not happening

[Alan Peterson]

Folks - - 

I've picked up a refurbed HP/Compaq DC7700 dual-core PC (2.4 GHz, 2GB RAM), for 
the intent of demonstrating Rivendell at an upcoming college radio conference 
in NYC. I grabbed the appliance disc from the Paravel website and went to town.

The CentOS splash screen freezes at startup, but I can live with that. The 
bootup steps shown on the screen indicate that the RD daemons failed. When I 
try to restart them under the SERVICES menu, I get the following message:

>>>
rivendell failed. The error was: rdcatchd: aborting - multiple instances not 
allowed Starting Rivendell system daemons[FAILED]
<<<

I've gone online with the Package Updater and pulled in the newest updates and 
dependencies for LibMad and RD, so I believe I'm running the freshest version 
in town. But no success. 

Is there anything I'm forgetting, ignoring or botching? Is it possible this HP 
model isnt a good candidate to run this on? Any suggestions are appreciated -- 
my conference starts Friday 3/1.

AP
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[RDD] Intel Ramping Down Mobo Manufacture

[Alan Peterson]

Hello all --- 

This article in EE Times notes that Intel plans to phase out the manufacture of 
motherboards over the next three years:
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4405539/Intel-to-discontinue-PC-motherboards

We have three more years before you'll see me running across the Washington 
Beltway in my skivvies and my tinfoil hat, screaming my conspiracy theories 
over this matter. But in the interim, it is a good bet that other manufacturers 
will step in and ramp up production.

Do you prefer and/or use a non-Intel brand product now? If you are an Intel 
user, what runs a close second that you may decide to switch over to?

Thanks.

AP
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Re: [RDD] Fade instead of STOP

[Alan Peterson]

From: "waynemerricks" 
>>>
Make a macro and stick it on the panel to fade to be fired manually
PS 0 5000! <-- fade down everything over 5 seconds
SP 5000! <-- wait for 5 seconds
<<<


I just tried this on my machine here and it absolutely works. Fades, stops, and 
moves the log ahead to the next event just as it should.

Nice work, Wayne.

AP
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