Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Robert Jeffares]

On 15/11/16 08:19, Seth Stevenson wrote:

The cart needs to the same, since a script
fires it to play the same one.


So if you label each ID "stationlocation-somenameforid.mp3" each remote 
site can be set up to download all tracks prefixed with 
"stationlocation" from your server Dropbox/Cloud or whatever.

Thats a script that can run once every /hour/day/week
Then the same or a second script can CART the new audio replacing the 
existing audio [or not]


I use Dropbox for long programmes. Short items get downloaded direct 
from the server. How you do it depends on the resources you have in each 
place.


My preference is rsync because it has more [ to my mind] reliability. 
It's easy enough to map a Dropbox to a folder on each remote, but really 
you only want each remote to get it's unique data so rsync from your 
main site is all that is needed. Add some logging and send it to an 
email you will read.


I prefer running my own dropbox to using a service. One less thing to go 
wrong and 100% control.


This is an edited version of a script I use to pull down and cart audio 
on the same cart at several sites. Run by cron as needed. No passwords 
if you setup keygen


http://www.tecmint.com/ssh-passwordless-login-using-ssh-keygen-in-5-easy-steps/

#! /bin/bash

echo $(date) > /home/rd/downloadnews.log

#this is when we start

echo "now downloading News" #handy when you run it manually

rsync -av -t --update --progress -e 'ssh -p  ' 
x.x.x.x:/home/rd/dropbox/latestnews.mp3 /home/rd/dropbox >> 
/home/rd/downloadnews.log


echo $(date +%M:%S) >> /home/rd/downloadbbc.log #this is when the 
download ended. Long time indicates transport problems.


rdimport --verbose --delete-cuts --normalization-level=-10 --to-cart=908 
NEWS /home/rd/dropbox/latestnews.mp3 >> /home/rd/downloadnews.log


echo $(date +%M:%S) >> /home/rd/downloadnews.log #yes this is how long 
it took to cart


cat /home/rd/downloadnews.log |mail -s 'News Downloaded at ' 
yourem...@someplace.com


exit 0




I port shift 22 on the server to a port in the 1 range at every 
site. This is done in the local router. Never allow port 22 access from 
anywhere. In some places I have several machines each with it's own ssh 
port. rsync, ssh, do all the heavy lifting. In one case I have an inter 
continental sync running every hour with a [very] variable grade 
wireless connection at one end. It just works.


hope this helps

regards

Robert


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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Seth Stevenson]

Seems like a terribly inefficient way of doing it.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Geoff Barkman 
wrote:

> Hi there.
> The only way I could work this one out is to do this to have two dropbox
> folders
>
> If you put a piece of audio in one... it deletes all the existing cuts.
>
> Then you put all the other pieces of audio into the second dropbox
> folder... it then adds cut to the existing cart.
> Many thanks
> Geoff Barkman
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm trying to imagine how this would work.
>>
>> If someone loads a single ID cut into the dropbox, you want it to delete
>> all current ID's from the cart and just import the one?
>>
>> I would not use the Rivendell dropbox feature at all, but set up a Perl
>> script to run as a cron job at the top of each minute. The Perl script
>> would look for dropbox files conforming to the desired specification,
>> delete the target cart, and run rdimport on them.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> --
>> Я там, где ребята толковые,
>> Я там, где плакаты "Вперёд",
>> Где песни рабочие новые
>> Страна трудовая поёт.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Seth Stevenson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm not sure how to get a script to do that. Here is what I want to to in
>>> detail.
>>>
>>> We have a number of transmitter sites. We are putting raspberry pi with
>>> Rivendell at each site to run localized Id's for that station. They are
>>> in
>>> one cart in the panel on rdairplay.
>>>
>>> We use a Dropbox.com folder on the computer linked to our FTP server. A
>>> Rivendell Dropbox then imports them into that cart. When we want to
>>> change
>>> ids we just want to put them in the appropriate folder on the server and
>>> let
>>> Rivendell Dropbox overwrite the existing ones. The goal is to automate
>>> this
>>> so it is easy to swap out each stations ids for new ones in the same
>>> cart.
>>> There are dozens of stations, so I don't want to go in each one and
>>> delete
>>> the current cart or the cuts. The cart needs to the same, since a script
>>> fires it to play the same one.
>>>
>>> Hope I haven't muddied the waters with that explanation. What's the best
>>> way
>>> to do this.
>>>
>>> It should work to delete the cart with a script or by some means, then
>>> when
>>> the dropbox imports new cuts to the specific cart, it recreates it with
>>> only
>>> the new cuts in it.
>>>
>>> Tom Van Gorkom
>>> Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
>>> Office: 956-380-8150
>>> Cell: 865-803-7427
>>>
>>> Rio Grande Bible Institute
>>> 4300 S US Hwy 281
>>> Edinburg, TX 78539
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Seth Stevenson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   No, actually I want to delete all current cuts before importing
>>>   new ones.
>>>
>>>   On Nov 3, 2016 10:39 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:
>>> Hey Fred,
>>>
>>> I think what Seth is asking for is an option to
>>> delete /all/ cuts in a
>>> cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up
>>> with several cuts, and
>>> *not* delete each cut before importing a new one.
>>> This is more complex
>>> than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option.
>>> Because, how would
>>> Rivendell know, without setting some kind of
>>> schedule, when to drop cuts
>>> and when to leave cuts?
>>>
>>> *My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be
>>> appropriate to change
>>> Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already
>>> flexible enough to
>>> support the few cases in which people want to do it.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps clarify!
>>>
>>>   ~David Klann
>>>
>>> On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
>>> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I had a question about Dropbox operation in
>>> Rivendell. I want to
>>> >> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25
>>> cuts in it. I was
>>> >> hoping the delete cuts before import button would
>>> delete all the cuts,
>>> >> and then do the import, which is what I want to
>>> do. However it deletes
>>> >> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the
>>> cart when the import
>>> >> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it
>>> be added as a
>>> >> feature? Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > To get this behavior, just set a destination cart
>>> (in the ‘To Cart’ field).
>>> >
>>> > Cheers!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> |---
>>> ---|
>>> > | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. |  Ch

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Geoff Barkman]

Hi there.
The only way I could work this one out is to do this to have two dropbox
folders

If you put a piece of audio in one... it deletes all the existing cuts.

Then you put all the other pieces of audio into the second dropbox
folder... it then adds cut to the existing cart.
Many thanks
Geoff Barkman

On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote:

>
> I'm trying to imagine how this would work.
>
> If someone loads a single ID cut into the dropbox, you want it to delete
> all current ID's from the cart and just import the one?
>
> I would not use the Rivendell dropbox feature at all, but set up a Perl
> script to run as a cron job at the top of each minute. The Perl script
> would look for dropbox files conforming to the desired specification,
> delete the target cart, and run rdimport on them.
>
>
> Rob
>
> --
> Я там, где ребята толковые,
> Я там, где плакаты "Вперёд",
> Где песни рабочие новые
> Страна трудовая поёт.
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Seth Stevenson wrote:
>
>
>> I'm not sure how to get a script to do that. Here is what I want to to in
>> detail.
>>
>> We have a number of transmitter sites. We are putting raspberry pi with
>> Rivendell at each site to run localized Id's for that station. They are in
>> one cart in the panel on rdairplay.
>>
>> We use a Dropbox.com folder on the computer linked to our FTP server. A
>> Rivendell Dropbox then imports them into that cart. When we want to change
>> ids we just want to put them in the appropriate folder on the server and
>> let
>> Rivendell Dropbox overwrite the existing ones. The goal is to automate
>> this
>> so it is easy to swap out each stations ids for new ones in the same cart.
>> There are dozens of stations, so I don't want to go in each one and delete
>> the current cart or the cuts. The cart needs to the same, since a script
>> fires it to play the same one.
>>
>> Hope I haven't muddied the waters with that explanation. What's the best
>> way
>> to do this.
>>
>> It should work to delete the cart with a script or by some means, then
>> when
>> the dropbox imports new cuts to the specific cart, it recreates it with
>> only
>> the new cuts in it.
>>
>> Tom Van Gorkom
>> Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
>> Office: 956-380-8150
>> Cell: 865-803-7427
>>
>> Rio Grande Bible Institute
>> 4300 S US Hwy 281
>> Edinburg, TX 78539
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Seth Stevenson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   No, actually I want to delete all current cuts before importing
>>   new ones.
>>
>>   On Nov 3, 2016 10:39 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:
>> Hey Fred,
>>
>> I think what Seth is asking for is an option to
>> delete /all/ cuts in a
>> cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up
>> with several cuts, and
>> *not* delete each cut before importing a new one.
>> This is more complex
>> than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option.
>> Because, how would
>> Rivendell know, without setting some kind of
>> schedule, when to drop cuts
>> and when to leave cuts?
>>
>> *My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be
>> appropriate to change
>> Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already
>> flexible enough to
>> support the few cases in which people want to do it.
>>
>> Hope this helps clarify!
>>
>>   ~David Klann
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
>> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson
>> > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I had a question about Dropbox operation in
>> Rivendell. I want to
>> >> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25
>> cuts in it. I was
>> >> hoping the delete cuts before import button would
>> delete all the cuts,
>> >> and then do the import, which is what I want to
>> do. However it deletes
>> >> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the
>> cart when the import
>> >> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it
>> be added as a
>> >> feature? Thanks.
>> >
>> > To get this behavior, just set a destination cart
>> (in the ‘To Cart’ field).
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> |---
>> ---|
>> > | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. |  Chief
>> Developer |
>> > |   |  Paravel
>> Systems |
>> >
>> |---
>> ---|
>> 

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Seth Stevenson]

No if I have say 25 cuts in the cart, when I want to update them to a new
25 I want to all the current 25 to be overwritten when dropbox  starts the
import. So far it adds the 25, but does not overwrite them.
On Nov 4, 2016 3:23 PM, "Rob Landry" <41001...@interpring.com> wrote:

>
> I'm trying to imagine how this would work.
>
> If someone loads a single ID cut into the dropbox, you want it to delete
> all current ID's from the cart and just import the one?
>
> I would not use the Rivendell dropbox feature at all, but set up a Perl
> script to run as a cron job at the top of each minute. The Perl script
> would look for dropbox files conforming to the desired specification,
> delete the target cart, and run rdimport on them.
>
>
> Rob
>
> --
> Я там, где ребята толковые,
> Я там, где плакаты "Вперёд",
> Где песни рабочие новые
> Страна трудовая поёт.
>
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Seth Stevenson wrote:
>
>
>> I'm not sure how to get a script to do that. Here is what I want to to in
>> detail.
>>
>> We have a number of transmitter sites. We are putting raspberry pi with
>> Rivendell at each site to run localized Id's for that station. They are in
>> one cart in the panel on rdairplay.
>>
>> We use a Dropbox.com folder on the computer linked to our FTP server. A
>> Rivendell Dropbox then imports them into that cart. When we want to change
>> ids we just want to put them in the appropriate folder on the server and
>> let
>> Rivendell Dropbox overwrite the existing ones. The goal is to automate
>> this
>> so it is easy to swap out each stations ids for new ones in the same cart.
>> There are dozens of stations, so I don't want to go in each one and delete
>> the current cart or the cuts. The cart needs to the same, since a script
>> fires it to play the same one.
>>
>> Hope I haven't muddied the waters with that explanation. What's the best
>> way
>> to do this.
>>
>> It should work to delete the cart with a script or by some means, then
>> when
>> the dropbox imports new cuts to the specific cart, it recreates it with
>> only
>> the new cuts in it.
>>
>> Tom Van Gorkom
>> Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
>> Office: 956-380-8150
>> Cell: 865-803-7427
>>
>> Rio Grande Bible Institute
>> 4300 S US Hwy 281
>> Edinburg, TX 78539
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Seth Stevenson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>   No, actually I want to delete all current cuts before importing
>>   new ones.
>>
>>   On Nov 3, 2016 10:39 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:
>> Hey Fred,
>>
>> I think what Seth is asking for is an option to
>> delete /all/ cuts in a
>> cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up
>> with several cuts, and
>> *not* delete each cut before importing a new one.
>> This is more complex
>> than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option.
>> Because, how would
>> Rivendell know, without setting some kind of
>> schedule, when to drop cuts
>> and when to leave cuts?
>>
>> *My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be
>> appropriate to change
>> Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already
>> flexible enough to
>> support the few cases in which people want to do it.
>>
>> Hope this helps clarify!
>>
>>   ~David Klann
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
>> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson
>> > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I had a question about Dropbox operation in
>> Rivendell. I want to
>> >> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25
>> cuts in it. I was
>> >> hoping the delete cuts before import button would
>> delete all the cuts,
>> >> and then do the import, which is what I want to
>> do. However it deletes
>> >> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the
>> cart when the import
>> >> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it
>> be added as a
>> >> feature? Thanks.
>> >
>> > To get this behavior, just set a destination cart
>> (in the ‘To Cart’ field).
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> |---
>> ---|
>> > | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. |  Chief
>> Developer |
>> > |   |  Paravel
>> Systems |
>> >
>> |---
>> ---|
>> > |  A room without books is like a body
>> without a soul. |
>> > 

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Rob Landry]

I'm trying to imagine how this would work.

If someone loads a single ID cut into the dropbox, you want it to delete 
all current ID's from the cart and just import the one?


I would not use the Rivendell dropbox feature at all, but set up a Perl 
script to run as a cron job at the top of each minute. The Perl script 
would look for dropbox files conforming to the desired specification, 
delete the target cart, and run rdimport on them.



Rob

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Я там, где ребята толковые,
Я там, где плакаты "Вперёд",
Где песни рабочие новые
Страна трудовая поёт.

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Seth Stevenson wrote:



I'm not sure how to get a script to do that. Here is what I want to to in
detail.

We have a number of transmitter sites. We are putting raspberry pi with
Rivendell at each site to run localized Id's for that station. They are in
one cart in the panel on rdairplay.

We use a Dropbox.com folder on the computer linked to our FTP server. A
Rivendell Dropbox then imports them into that cart. When we want to change
ids we just want to put them in the appropriate folder on the server and let
Rivendell Dropbox overwrite the existing ones. The goal is to automate this
so it is easy to swap out each stations ids for new ones in the same cart.
There are dozens of stations, so I don't want to go in each one and delete
the current cart or the cuts. The cart needs to the same, since a script
fires it to play the same one.

Hope I haven't muddied the waters with that explanation. What's the best way
to do this.

It should work to delete the cart with a script or by some means, then when
the dropbox imports new cuts to the specific cart, it recreates it with only
the new cuts in it.

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150  
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Seth Stevenson  wrote:

  No, actually I want to delete all current cuts before importing
  new ones.

  On Nov 3, 2016 10:39 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:
Hey Fred,

I think what Seth is asking for is an option to
delete /all/ cuts in a
cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up
with several cuts, and
*not* delete each cut before importing a new one.
This is more complex
than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option.
Because, how would
Rivendell know, without setting some kind of
schedule, when to drop cuts
and when to leave cuts?

*My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be
appropriate to change
Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already
flexible enough to
support the few cases in which people want to do it.

Hope this helps clarify!

  ~David Klann

On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson
 > wrote:
>
>> I had a question about Dropbox operation in
Rivendell. I want to
>> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25
cuts in it. I was
>> hoping the delete cuts before import button would
delete all the cuts,
>> and then do the import, which is what I want to
do. However it deletes
>> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the
cart when the import
>> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it
be added as a
>> feature? Thanks.
>
> To get this behavior, just set a destination cart
(in the ‘To Cart’ field).
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>

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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Seth Stevenson]

I'm not sure how to get a script to do that. Here is what I want to to in
detail.

We have a number of transmitter sites. We are putting raspberry pi with
Rivendell at each site to run localized Id's for that station. They are in
one cart in the panel on rdairplay.

We use a Dropbox.com folder on the computer linked to our FTP server. A
Rivendell Dropbox then imports them into that cart. When we want to change
ids we just want to put them in the appropriate folder on the server and
let Rivendell Dropbox overwrite the existing ones. The goal is to automate
this so it is easy to swap out each stations ids for new ones in the same
cart. There are dozens of stations, so I don't want to go in each one and
delete the current cart or the cuts. The cart needs to the same, since a
script fires it to play the same one.

Hope I haven't muddied the waters with that explanation. What's the best
way to do this.
It should work to delete the cart with a script or by some means, then when
the dropbox imports new cuts to the specific cart, it recreates it with
only the new cuts in it.

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Seth Stevenson  wrote:

> No, actually I want to delete all current cuts before importing new ones.
> On Nov 3, 2016 10:39 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:
>
>> Hey Fred,
>>
>> I think what Seth is asking for is an option to delete /all/ cuts in a
>> cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up with several cuts, and
>> *not* delete each cut before importing a new one. This is more complex
>> than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option. Because, how would
>> Rivendell know, without setting some kind of schedule, when to drop cuts
>> and when to leave cuts?
>>
>> *My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be appropriate to change
>> Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already flexible enough to
>> support the few cases in which people want to do it.
>>
>> Hope this helps clarify!
>>
>>   ~David Klann
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
>> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to
>> >> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was
>> >> hoping the delete cuts before import button would delete all the cuts,
>> >> and then do the import, which is what I want to do. However it deletes
>> >> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the cart when the import
>> >> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it be added as a
>> >> feature? Thanks.
>> >
>> > To get this behavior, just set a destination cart (in the ‘To Cart’
>> field).
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> >
>> > |---
>> ---|
>> > | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. |  Chief Developer |
>> > |   |  Paravel Systems |
>> > |---
>> ---|
>> > |  A room without books is like a body without a soul. |
>> > | -- Cicero|
>> > |---
>> ---|
>> >
>> >
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Tom Van Gorkom]

It should work to delete the cart with a script or by some means, then when
the dropbox imports new cuts to the specific cart, it recreates it with
only the new cuts in it.

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Seth Stevenson  wrote:

> No, actually I want to delete all current cuts before importing new ones.
> On Nov 3, 2016 10:39 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:
>
>> Hey Fred,
>>
>> I think what Seth is asking for is an option to delete /all/ cuts in a
>> cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up with several cuts, and
>> *not* delete each cut before importing a new one. This is more complex
>> than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option. Because, how would
>> Rivendell know, without setting some kind of schedule, when to drop cuts
>> and when to leave cuts?
>>
>> *My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be appropriate to change
>> Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already flexible enough to
>> support the few cases in which people want to do it.
>>
>> Hope this helps clarify!
>>
>>   ~David Klann
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
>> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to
>> >> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was
>> >> hoping the delete cuts before import button would delete all the cuts,
>> >> and then do the import, which is what I want to do. However it deletes
>> >> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the cart when the import
>> >> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it be added as a
>> >> feature? Thanks.
>> >
>> > To get this behavior, just set a destination cart (in the ‘To Cart’
>> field).
>> >
>> > Cheers!
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Seth Stevenson]

I did this and it didn't work. Do u have to select a new cart?
On Nov 3, 2016 9:50 AM, "Fred Gleason"  wrote:

> On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson  wrote:
>
> I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to import
> say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was hoping the
> delete cuts before import button would delete all the cuts, and then do the
> import, which is what I want to do. However it deletes cut for cut, so I
> end up with only one cut in the cart when the import finishes. Is there
> another way to do this? Can it be added as a feature? Thanks.
>
>
> To get this behavior, just set a destination cart (in the ‘To Cart’ field).
>
> Cheers!
>
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Seth Stevenson]

No, actually I want to delete all current cuts before importing new ones.
On Nov 3, 2016 10:39 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:

> Hey Fred,
>
> I think what Seth is asking for is an option to delete /all/ cuts in a
> cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up with several cuts, and
> *not* delete each cut before importing a new one. This is more complex
> than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option. Because, how would
> Rivendell know, without setting some kind of schedule, when to drop cuts
> and when to leave cuts?
>
> *My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be appropriate to change
> Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already flexible enough to
> support the few cases in which people want to do it.
>
> Hope this helps clarify!
>
>   ~David Klann
>
> On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
> > On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson  > > wrote:
> >
> >> I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to
> >> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was
> >> hoping the delete cuts before import button would delete all the cuts,
> >> and then do the import, which is what I want to do. However it deletes
> >> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the cart when the import
> >> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it be added as a
> >> feature? Thanks.
> >
> > To get this behavior, just set a destination cart (in the ‘To Cart’
> field).
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[David Klann]

Hey Fred,

I think what Seth is asking for is an option to delete /all/ cuts in a
cart, and then (at a later time) load the cart up with several cuts, and
*not* delete each cut before importing a new one. This is more complex
than a simple checkbox (i.e., binary) option. Because, how would
Rivendell know, without setting some kind of schedule, when to drop cuts
and when to leave cuts?

*My* opinion on this is that it wouldn't be appropriate to change
Rivendell to support this -- Rivendell is already flexible enough to
support the few cases in which people want to do it.

Hope this helps clarify!

  ~David Klann

On 11/03/2016 08:50 AM, Fred Gleason wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson  > wrote:
> 
>> I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to
>> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was
>> hoping the delete cuts before import button would delete all the cuts,
>> and then do the import, which is what I want to do. However it deletes
>> cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the cart when the import
>> finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it be added as a
>> feature? Thanks. 
> 
> To get this behavior, just set a destination cart (in the ‘To Cart’ field).
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Fred Gleason]

On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:27, Seth Stevenson  wrote:

> I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to import say 
> 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was hoping the delete 
> cuts before import button would delete all the cuts, and then do the import, 
> which is what I want to do. However it deletes cut for cut, so I end up with 
> only one cut in the cart when the import finishes. Is there another way to do 
> this? Can it be added as a feature? Thanks. 

To get this behavior, just set a destination cart (in the ‘To Cart’ field).

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Seth Stevenson]

David,

I was hoping that it would just be an option in Rivendell itself, but if
not a copy of the script would be greatly appreciated. Fred, could this be
implemented on an upcoming release?
On Nov 3, 2016 1:33 AM, "David Klann"  wrote:

> Hey Seth,
>
> I concur with Robert: write a script that deletes the previous load of
> cuts in the cart. Then set the script up in either cron or rdcatch to
> fire just before the files show up in the dropbox (I assume you mean a
> Rivendell dropbox, and not the commercial cloud service Dropbox).
>
> I'm actually about to embark on writing such a script for a couple
> clients. I'd be happy to share it with you when I get it far enough
> along...
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>   ~David
>
>
> On 11/02/2016 08:36 PM, Seth Stevenson wrote:
> > I want all the cuts in one cart. Also we are using Dropbox to do this,
> > not rdimport. Normally one would just manually delete the cuts in that
> > cart in library, and then set up the Dropbox, however we need to have
> > Dropbox delete all cuts currently in the cart and them import the new
> > ones. This is when we drop files in that folder from our server. This
> > all needs to be automated in our case.
> >
> > On Nov 2, 2016 3:58 PM, "Robert"  > > wrote:
> >
> > You can set up a script to import all 25 as individual cuts. Do man
> > rdimport in command line for all options.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 3/11/2016, at 08:27, Seth Stevenson  > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to
> > import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was
> > hoping the delete cuts before import button would delete all the
> > cuts, and then do the import, which is what I want to do. However it
> > deletes cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the cart when
> > the import finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it be
> > added as a feature? Thanks.
> > >
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[David Klann]

Hey Seth,

I concur with Robert: write a script that deletes the previous load of
cuts in the cart. Then set the script up in either cron or rdcatch to
fire just before the files show up in the dropbox (I assume you mean a
Rivendell dropbox, and not the commercial cloud service Dropbox).

I'm actually about to embark on writing such a script for a couple
clients. I'd be happy to share it with you when I get it far enough along...

Hope this helps!

  ~David


On 11/02/2016 08:36 PM, Seth Stevenson wrote:
> I want all the cuts in one cart. Also we are using Dropbox to do this,
> not rdimport. Normally one would just manually delete the cuts in that
> cart in library, and then set up the Dropbox, however we need to have
> Dropbox delete all cuts currently in the cart and them import the new
> ones. This is when we drop files in that folder from our server. This
> all needs to be automated in our case.
> 
> On Nov 2, 2016 3:58 PM, "Robert"  > wrote:
> 
> You can set up a script to import all 25 as individual cuts. Do man
> rdimport in command line for all options.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 3/11/2016, at 08:27, Seth Stevenson  > wrote:
> >
> > I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to
> import say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was
> hoping the delete cuts before import button would delete all the
> cuts, and then do the import, which is what I want to do. However it
> deletes cut for cut, so I end up with only one cut in the cart when
> the import finishes. Is there another way to do this? Can it be
> added as a feature? Thanks.
> >
> > --
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Seth Stevenson]

I want all the cuts in one cart. Also we are using Dropbox to do this, not
rdimport. Normally one would just manually delete the cuts in that cart in
library, and then set up the Dropbox, however we need to have Dropbox
delete all cuts currently in the cart and them import the new ones. This is
when we drop files in that folder from our server. This all needs to be
automated in our case.
On Nov 2, 2016 3:58 PM, "Robert"  wrote:

> You can set up a script to import all 25 as individual cuts. Do man
> rdimport in command line for all options.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 3/11/2016, at 08:27, Seth Stevenson  wrote:
> >
> > I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to import
> say 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was hoping the
> delete cuts before import button would delete all the cuts, and then do the
> import, which is what I want to do. However it deletes cut for cut, so I
> end up with only one cut in the cart when the import finishes. Is there
> another way to do this? Can it be added as a feature? Thanks.
> >
> > --
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question

[Robert]

You can set up a script to import all 25 as individual cuts. Do man rdimport in 
command line for all options. 

Sent from my iPad

> On 3/11/2016, at 08:27, Seth Stevenson  wrote:
> 
> I had a question about Dropbox operation in Rivendell. I want to import say 
> 25 cuts, in a cart that already has 25 cuts in it. I was hoping the delete 
> cuts before import button would delete all the cuts, and then do the import, 
> which is what I want to do. However it deletes cut for cut, so I end up with 
> only one cut in the cart when the import finishes. Is there another way to do 
> this? Can it be added as a feature? Thanks. 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Nathan Steele]

I just did a test with RDcatch and I think I will switch over to using 
it instead. however it didn't seem to like the wildcard * at the end of 
the filename, but it does pull the current days file by using %D so I 
can have one cut that will be overwritten each day, making the end date 
issue an non issue because there will only ever be the one cut to play.

This will also get rid of the 20 rdimports constantly running on the system.

> Not sure but I thought you said you were getting start and end dates.  If you 
> dont have any start date offsets set,
> then I am not sure where any dates are coming from (the WAV file has INFO 
> chunks - maybe the creation date is in there?).
I was getting start and end dates, but the end date was 2 days later and 
the programs are played twice a day and I only want the one program to 
play so I need the start and end dates to be for a 1 day period, not a 
three day period. Ultimately RDCatch is going to work better, lesson 
learned.

Thanks to all who replied

Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 2/4/2013 2:47 PM, Todd Baker wrote:
> Dear Nathan,
>
> Yeah, as I looked at the ROG I realized that I may have confused that with 
> something else, my apoligies.
>
> Not sure but I thought you said you were getting start and end dates.  If you 
> dont have any start date offsets set,
> then I am not sure where any dates are coming from (the WAV file has INFO 
> chunks - maybe the creation date is in there?).
>
> I worked on this a long time ago so I have forgotten exactly how the dates 
> are parsed, but I think its in the WAV file INFO chunk.  Something like that. 
> I think someone else (like Fred) can easily answer this more quickly cuz I am 
> fuzzy on that detail. Or look up the associated metadata INFO in WAV format 
> files. And check if your files have INFO in them.
>
> As for using the offsets, the entries can be negative numbers, but the end 
> date number cannot end up being a lesser date than the start date.
>
> So, if the incoming CUTS have no start dates on them, then set those two 
> fields to zero (or leave them at zero since thats the default), and that is 
> effectively today. If you want more days then add to end offset.  The end 
> should always be >= the start offset.  I think the logic works with negative 
> numbers, atleast they work for me - although I dont see much need for 
> creating things that would never be valid which would happen if you used -6 
> for start date and -3 for end date...
>
> Remember:   Both the offsets are always in relation to either TODAY or Start 
> Date from input file.  So the numeric value
> for Start Date offset will always be less than or equal to End date offset.
>
> I entered an createoffset of -6 and -3 for start and end respectively and it 
> created a file with Air Date time Enabled,
> Start Date 01/29/2013 00:00:00 and End Date 02/02/2013 23:59:59.
>
> Hope this helps, and hopefully someone else remembers where these Start and 
> End dates come from via Dropbox files...
>
> Todd
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "nathan steele" 
> To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 1:38:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.
>
>
> Is there a metadata pattern for dates?
> It didnt look like it to me from reading the rivendell operation guide.
>
> I tried the offset end date -2 but it wont take it complaining that  the end 
> offset is greater than the start offset , even though it would make theo 
> start and end the same day...
>
> Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Todd Baker" 
> To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
> 
> Subject: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.
> Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2013 12:16 pm
>
>
> Hi Nathan, et al...
>
> Sorry to chime in so late here but wanted to let you know how that 
> functionality works in relation to this.
>
> The Dropbox GUI has a couple of choices for creating start dates. First one 
> is called offset start date/end date and the other is called Create start 
> date/ end date offset. They should work like this:
>
>  The first group (offset start/end choice) uses the incoming carts start 
> date date and you can enter an offset
>  to set starting and ending dates from using what input entry had coming 
> in.
>
>  The second group creates start and end dates when NO dates are present 
> (starting from today). That functionality will only
>  set (create) entries with start and end dates when there are none 
> present in th

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Todd Baker]

Dear Nathan,

Yeah, as I looked at the ROG I realized that I may have confused that with 
something else, my apoligies.

Not sure but I thought you said you were getting start and end dates.  If you 
dont have any start date offsets set,
then I am not sure where any dates are coming from (the WAV file has INFO 
chunks - maybe the creation date is in there?).

I worked on this a long time ago so I have forgotten exactly how the dates are 
parsed, but I think its in the WAV file INFO chunk.  Something like that. I 
think someone else (like Fred) can easily answer this more quickly cuz I am 
fuzzy on that detail. Or look up the associated metadata INFO in WAV format 
files. And check if your files have INFO in them.

As for using the offsets, the entries can be negative numbers, but the end date 
number cannot end up being a lesser date than the start date.

So, if the incoming CUTS have no start dates on them, then set those two fields 
to zero (or leave them at zero since thats the default), and that is 
effectively today. If you want more days then add to end offset.  The end 
should always be >= the start offset.  I think the logic works with negative 
numbers, atleast they work for me - although I dont see much need for creating 
things that would never be valid which would happen if you used -6 for start 
date and -3 for end date...

Remember:   Both the offsets are always in relation to either TODAY or Start 
Date from input file.  So the numeric value
for Start Date offset will always be less than or equal to End date offset.

I entered an createoffset of -6 and -3 for start and end respectively and it 
created a file with Air Date time Enabled, 
Start Date 01/29/2013 00:00:00 and End Date 02/02/2013 23:59:59.

Hope this helps, and hopefully someone else remembers where these Start and End 
dates come from via Dropbox files...

Todd


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From: "nathan steele" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 1:38:46 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.


Is there a metadata pattern for dates? 
It didnt look like it to me from reading the rivendell operation guide. 

I tried the offset end date -2 but it wont take it complaining that  the end 
offset is greater than the start offset , even though it would make theo start 
and end the same day... 

Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint! 

- Reply message - 
From: "Todd Baker"  
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
 
Subject: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question. 
Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2013 12:16 pm 


Hi Nathan, et al... 

Sorry to chime in so late here but wanted to let you know how that 
functionality works in relation to this. 

The Dropbox GUI has a couple of choices for creating start dates. First one is 
called offset start date/end date and the other is called Create start date/ 
end date offset. They should work like this: 

    The first group (offset start/end choice) uses the incoming carts start 
date date and you can enter an offset 
    to set starting and ending dates from using what input entry had coming in. 

    The second group creates start and end dates when NO dates are present 
(starting from today). That functionality will only 
    set (create) entries with start and end dates when there are none present 
in the input. 


That being said, If you are using the Metadata patterns to figure out the start 
Dates, then I guess you could 
remove those patterns and click the check box to create with start dates and 
end dates of your choosing.  If you already have start and end dates then the 
first group should do what you want... 

Hope this helps, 

Regards, 

Todd Baker 

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From: "Nathan Steele"  
To: "jeffares robert" , "User discussion about the 
Rivendell Radio Automation System"  
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:02:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question. 

I have been using the gui to do my dropboxes. If I set one up via 
command line, will it show in the GUI? I would totally forget about it 
if I didn't have a place to check. plus how do you change a dropbox 
setup by command line? 
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a 
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the 
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows 
> this. 
This might work for me but I have to figure out how amb-ux is working as 
to when and how many files are dumped at once. Initially I had setup 
amb-ux and it dumped 5 days worth of each program. Does anyone use 
amb-ux to transfer files from an AMR-100? based on my initial post that 
answer is NO, as I got NO repliesoh well...there also NO 
documentation on it. 

Thanks. 


Nathaniel C. Steele 
Assistant C

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[nathan.ste...@thecrossfm.com]

Is there a metadata pattern for dates?
 It didnt look like it to me from reading the rivendell operation guide.

I tried the offset end date -2 but it wont take it complaining that  the end 
offset is greater than the start offset , even though it would make theo start 
and end the same day...

Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!

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From: "Todd Baker" 
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 

Subject: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.
Date: Mon, Feb 4, 2013 12:16 pm


Hi Nathan, et al...

Sorry to chime in so late here but wanted to let you know how that 
functionality works in relation to this.

The Dropbox GUI has a couple of choices for creating start dates. First one is 
called offset start date/end date and the other is called Create start date/ 
end date offset. They should work like this:

 The first group (offset start/end choice) uses the incoming carts start 
date date and you can enter an offset
 to set starting and ending dates from using what input entry had coming 
in. 

 The second group creates start and end dates when NO dates are present 
(starting from today). That functionality will only
 set (create) entries with start and end dates when there are none present 
in the input.


That being said, If you are using the Metadata patterns to figure out the start 
Dates, then I guess you could
remove those patterns and click the check box to create with start dates and 
end dates of your choosing.  If you already have start and end dates then the 
first group should do what you want...

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Todd Baker

- Original Message -
From: "Nathan Steele" 
To: "jeffares robert" , "User discussion about the 
Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:02:28 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

I have been using the gui to do my dropboxes. If I set one up via 
command line, will it show in the GUI? I would totally forget about it 
if I didn't have a place to check. plus how do you change a dropbox 
setup by command line?
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
> this.
This might work for me but I have to figure out how amb-ux is working as 
to when and how many files are dumped at once. Initially I had setup 
amb-ux and it dumped 5 days worth of each program. Does anyone use 
amb-ux to transfer files from an AMR-100? based on my initial post that 
answer is NO, as I got NO repliesoh well...there also NO 
documentation on it.

Thanks.


Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 2/1/2013 2:49 PM, Robert wrote:
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
> this.
>
> RD will read cart chunk data from a wav file, [start date end date] but
> as yet there are no linux audio editors that write cart chunk data. It's
> on the request list for Audacity but low priority because so few
> requests.[hint hint]
>
> There is a patch which allows start date start time end date end time to
> be put in the filename in a manner similar to that you describe. I have
> it and plan to test it on a non critical box here.
>
> Ideally this patch can be included in the rdimport options. Command line
> will be fine... it can make it to the GUI later!
>
> It's not that this has never been considered, it has been, but hasn't
> made it to the top of the list yet.
>
> It would be interesting to know how many users are manually setting
> start dates / times for cuts in carts that are time critical and who
> would find it useful to just save the file with the details written in
> the filename.
>
> Robert Jeffares
> Big Valley Radio
> The Wireless Station
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:24 -0500, Nathan Steele wrote:
>> OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a start
>> and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only play
>> on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but looking
>> in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the
>> start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see that
>> range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates
>> coming from and how do I fix them?
>>
>> My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2
>>
>> The files are named like this HCJB_

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Todd Baker]

Hi Nathan, et al...

Sorry to chime in so late here but wanted to let you know how that 
functionality works in relation to this.

The Dropbox GUI has a couple of choices for creating start dates. First one is 
called offset start date/end date and the other is called Create start date/ 
end date offset. They should work like this:

 The first group (offset start/end choice) uses the incoming carts start 
date date and you can enter an offset
 to set starting and ending dates from using what input entry had coming 
in. 

 The second group creates start and end dates when NO dates are present 
(starting from today). That functionality will only
 set (create) entries with start and end dates when there are none present 
in the input.


That being said, If you are using the Metadata patterns to figure out the start 
Dates, then I guess you could
remove those patterns and click the check box to create with start dates and 
end dates of your choosing.  If you already have start and end dates then the 
first group should do what you want...

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Todd Baker

- Original Message -
From: "Nathan Steele" 
To: "jeffares robert" , "User discussion about the 
Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:02:28 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

I have been using the gui to do my dropboxes. If I set one up via 
command line, will it show in the GUI? I would totally forget about it 
if I didn't have a place to check. plus how do you change a dropbox 
setup by command line?
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
> this.
This might work for me but I have to figure out how amb-ux is working as 
to when and how many files are dumped at once. Initially I had setup 
amb-ux and it dumped 5 days worth of each program. Does anyone use 
amb-ux to transfer files from an AMR-100? based on my initial post that 
answer is NO, as I got NO repliesoh well...there also NO 
documentation on it.

Thanks.


Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 2/1/2013 2:49 PM, Robert wrote:
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
> this.
>
> RD will read cart chunk data from a wav file, [start date end date] but
> as yet there are no linux audio editors that write cart chunk data. It's
> on the request list for Audacity but low priority because so few
> requests.[hint hint]
>
> There is a patch which allows start date start time end date end time to
> be put in the filename in a manner similar to that you describe. I have
> it and plan to test it on a non critical box here.
>
> Ideally this patch can be included in the rdimport options. Command line
> will be fine... it can make it to the GUI later!
>
> It's not that this has never been considered, it has been, but hasn't
> made it to the top of the list yet.
>
> It would be interesting to know how many users are manually setting
> start dates / times for cuts in carts that are time critical and who
> would find it useful to just save the file with the details written in
> the filename.
>
> Robert Jeffares
> Big Valley Radio
> The Wireless Station
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:24 -0500, Nathan Steele wrote:
>> OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a start
>> and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only play
>> on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but looking
>> in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the
>> start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see that
>> range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates
>> coming from and how do I fix them?
>>
>> My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2
>>
>> The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and upon creation
>> of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there.
>>
>> Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch instead. how
>> do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really seems like
>> dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata
>> pattern for start end date?
>>
>> Nathaniel C. Steele
>> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
>> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>>
>> On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
>&g

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Nathan Steele]

I'm in communication with Dave right now, I'll get something worked out. 
My problem now is not having a full understanding of how amb-ux works or 
how rdcatch or dropboxes work, though that knowledge is expanding by the 
minute and I'll be on to something soon.


Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 2/1/2013 5:44 PM, Steve Atkins wrote:

Hey Nathan,

On my day job, I am the originator of one of the programs AmbOs 
distributes.  So I asked them if the cart chunk application I use to 
encode could be incorporated into Linux for your purpose.  Here's the 
response I got.


"/although the present Linux version, Amb-UX, doesn't have cart chunk 
manipulation capability, the files do still contain the Cart 
Chunk..You (or the automation vendor) could write a Cart Chunk 
module so the automation could decode..//We'll also chew on it during 
our weekly developer call.."/


So, we'll see what they come up with.

Steve


*From: *"Nathan Steele" 
*To: *"User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 


*Sent: *Friday, February 1, 2013 2:16:47 PM
*Subject: *Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

They come from our AMR-100 ( http://www.amb-os.com/ambos.html ) which 
is an SFTP receiver. the program amb-ux transfers them from the 
amr-100 to /var/amb-ux. I have contacted the person who wrote amb-ux 
to find out more about how often the files are transferred and whether 
they are one a day or will always come in a group

Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
On 2/1/2013 4:52 PM, Geoff Barkman wrote:

Hi Nathan
How did you get the weeks worth of files initially?
Are they produced at your station or do you download them yourself?
I'm looking at the date format in the file name. If I interpret it
correctly it is

HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01

HCJB_BTC5_Month-Date-2DigitYear_RandomNumbers.MP2?

So you need to set up a script that runs 1 minute after
midnight... Probably using crontab...

#!/bin/bash

#Find out current date and make a variable

CURRENTDATE=`date +%m-%d-%g`

#Move file to the dropbox

mv /downloadedlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2
/yourdropboxlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2


#end script


Have the dropbox set to delete the contents and replace with
todays audio and that should work.


Many Thanks

Geoff Barkman





On Feb 2, 2013 8:24 AM, "Nathan Steele"
mailto:nathan.ste...@thecrossfm.com>> wrote:

OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in
with a start
and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to
only play
on one day and that day should be the date in the filename,
but looking
in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern
for the
start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't
see that
range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these
dates
coming from and how do I fix them?

My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2

The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and
upon creation
of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there.

Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch
instead. how
do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really
seems like
dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata
pattern for start end date?

Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> So I have amb-ux configured and running and all of my ambos
recievers
> files are showing up in /var/amb-ux. Can someone recommend
to me the
> best way to go about getting them into the appropriate
carts? RDCATCH or
> Dropbox? Previously I was using a dropbox, which had the
files put into
> it from a windows systemk running the ambos ui. Ambos UI
would rename
> the files and put them into a directory that was used by another
> automation system for our other station. then we used an ftp
program to
> log into the rivendell server and put the ones we needed
into the
> dropbox, which would import them and overwrite the previous
days cut.
> Now we are adding more programs that will not be used by the
other
> station and personally I would like to take the windows box
in the
   

Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Steve Atkins]

Hey Nathan, 


On my day job, I am the originator of one of the programs AmbOs distributes. So 
I asked them if the cart chunk application I use to encode could be 
incorporated into Linux for your purpose. Here's the response I got. 


" although the present Linux version, Amb-UX, doesn't have cart chunk 
manipulation capability, the files do still contain the Cart Chunk..You (or the 
automation vendor) could write a Cart Chunk module so the automation could 
decode.. We'll also chew on it during our weekly developer call.." 


So, we'll see what they come up with. 


Steve 

- Original Message -
From: "Nathan Steele"  
To: "User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System" 
 
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 2:16:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question. 


They come from our AMR-100 ( http://www.amb-os.com/ambos.html ) which is an 
SFTP receiver. the program amb-ux transfers them from the amr-100 to 
/var/amb-ux. I have contacted the person who wrote amb-ux to find out more 
about how often the files are transferred and whether they are one a day or 
will always come in a group 
Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM On 2/1/2013 4:52 PM, Geoff Barkman wrote: 




Hi Nathan 
How did you get the weeks worth of files initially? 
Are they produced at your station or do you download them yourself? 
I'm looking at the date format in the file name. If I interpret it correctly it 
is 

HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 

HCJB_BTC5_Month-Date-2DigitYear_RandomNumbers.MP2? 

So you need to set up a script that runs 1 minute after midnight... Probably 
using crontab... 


#!/bin/bash 

#Find out current date and make a variable 


CURRENTDATE=`date +%m-%d-%g` 

#Move file to the dropbox 


mv /downloadedlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2 
/yourdropboxlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2 




#end script 





Have the dropbox set to delete the contents and replace with todays audio and 
that should work. 




Many Thanks 

Geoff Barkman 













On Feb 2, 2013 8:24 AM, "Nathan Steele" < nathan.ste...@thecrossfm.com > wrote: 


OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a start 
and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only play 
on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but looking 
in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the 
start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see that 
range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates 
coming from and how do I fix them? 

My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2 

The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and upon creation 
of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there. 

Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch instead. how 
do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really seems like 
dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata 
pattern for start end date? 

Nathaniel C. Steele 
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director 
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM 

On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote: 
> Hello all, 
> 
> So I have amb-ux configured and running and all of my ambos recievers 
> files are showing up in /var/amb-ux. Can someone recommend to me the 
> best way to go about getting them into the appropriate carts? RDCATCH or 
> Dropbox? Previously I was using a dropbox, which had the files put into 
> it from a windows systemk running the ambos ui. Ambos UI would rename 
> the files and put them into a directory that was used by another 
> automation system for our other station. then we used an ftp program to 
> log into the rivendell server and put the ones we needed into the 
> dropbox, which would import them and overwrite the previous days cut. 
> Now we are adding more programs that will not be used by the other 
> station and personally I would like to take the windows box in the 
> middle out of the equation. The nice thing was that the ambos UI would 
> handle sending the correct days program, now I am faced with the task of 
> getting the correct program out of a folder with several days worth of 
> them in it, I know it can be done, just have to get there. any 
> suggestions the files are named like this: 
> 
> "HCJB_BTC5_01_29_13_more numbers_maybe some version number_not sure" 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 

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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Nathan Steele]

They come from our AMR-100 ( http://www.amb-os.com/ambos.html ) which is 
an SFTP receiver. the program amb-ux transfers them from the amr-100 to 
/var/amb-ux. I have contacted the person who wrote amb-ux to find out 
more about how often the files are transferred and whether they are one 
a day or will always come in a group


Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 2/1/2013 4:52 PM, Geoff Barkman wrote:


Hi Nathan
How did you get the weeks worth of files initially?
Are they produced at your station or do you download them yourself?
I'm looking at the date format in the file name. If I interpret it 
correctly it is


HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01

HCJB_BTC5_Month-Date-2DigitYear_RandomNumbers.MP2?

So you need to set up a script that runs 1 minute after midnight... 
Probably using crontab...


#!/bin/bash

#Find out current date and make a variable

CURRENTDATE=`date +%m-%d-%g`

#Move file to the dropbox

mv /downloadedlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2 
/yourdropboxlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2



#end script


Have the dropbox set to delete the contents and replace with todays 
audio and that should work.



Many Thanks

Geoff Barkman





On Feb 2, 2013 8:24 AM, "Nathan Steele" > wrote:


OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a
start
and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only
play
on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but
looking
in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the
start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see
that
range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates
coming from and how do I fix them?

My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2

The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and upon
creation
of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there.

Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch
instead. how
do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really
seems like
dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata
pattern for start end date?

Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> So I have amb-ux configured and running and all of my ambos
recievers
> files are showing up in /var/amb-ux. Can someone recommend to me the
> best way to go about getting them into the appropriate carts?
RDCATCH or
> Dropbox? Previously I was using a dropbox, which had the files
put into
> it from a windows systemk running the ambos ui. Ambos UI would
rename
> the files and put them into a directory that was used by another
> automation system for our other station. then we used an ftp
program to
> log into the rivendell server and put the ones we needed into the
> dropbox, which would import them and overwrite the previous days
cut.
> Now we are adding more programs that will not be used by the other
> station and personally I would like to take the windows box in the
> middle out of the equation. The nice thing was that the ambos UI
would
> handle sending the correct days program, now I am faced with the
task of
> getting the correct program out of a folder with several days
worth of
> them in it, I know it can be done, just have to get there. any
> suggestions the files are named like this:
>
> "HCJB_BTC5_01_29_13_more numbers_maybe some version number_not sure"
>
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Geoff Barkman]

Hi Nathan
How did you get the weeks worth of files initially?
Are they produced at your station or do you download them yourself?
I'm looking at the date format in the file name. If I interpret it
correctly it is

HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01

HCJB_BTC5_Month-Date-2DigitYear_RandomNumbers.MP2?

So you need to set up a script that runs 1 minute after midnight...
Probably using crontab...

#!/bin/bash

#Find out current date and make a variable

CURRENTDATE=`date +%m-%d-%g`

#Move file to the dropbox

mv /downloadedlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2
/yourdropboxlocation/HCJB_BTC5_$CURRENTDATE_*.MP2


#end script


Have the dropbox set to delete the contents and replace with todays audio
and that should work.


Many Thanks

Geoff Barkman





On Feb 2, 2013 8:24 AM, "Nathan Steele" 
wrote:

> OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a start
> and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only play
> on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but looking
> in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the
> start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see that
> range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates
> coming from and how do I fix them?
>
> My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2
>
> The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and upon creation
> of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there.
>
> Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch instead. how
> do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really seems like
> dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata
> pattern for start end date?
>
> Nathaniel C. Steele
> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>
> On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > So I have amb-ux configured and running and all of my ambos recievers
> > files are showing up in /var/amb-ux. Can someone recommend to me the
> > best way to go about getting them into the appropriate carts? RDCATCH or
> > Dropbox? Previously I was using a dropbox, which had the files put into
> > it from a windows systemk running the ambos ui. Ambos UI would rename
> > the files and put them into a directory that was used by another
> > automation system for our other station. then we used an ftp program to
> > log into the rivendell server and put the ones we needed into the
> > dropbox, which would import them and overwrite the previous days cut.
> > Now we are adding more programs that will not be used by the other
> > station and personally I would like to take the windows box in the
> > middle out of the equation. The nice thing was that the ambos UI would
> > handle sending the correct days program, now I am faced with the task of
> > getting the correct program out of a folder with several days worth of
> > them in it, I know it can be done, just have to get there. any
> > suggestions the files are named like this:
> >
> > "HCJB_BTC5_01_29_13_more numbers_maybe some version number_not sure"
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[drew Roberts]

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Robert  wrote:
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
> this.
>
> RD will read cart chunk data from a wav file, [start date end date] but
> as yet there are no linux audio editors that write cart chunk data. It's
> on the request list for Audacity but low priority because so few
> requests.[hint hint]

BWF MetaEdit

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bwfmetaedit/

can read and write some metadata in wav files:

http://bwfmetaedit.sourceforge.net/core_doc_help.html

"The CORE Document serves the purpose of BEXT and LIST-INFO metadata
exchange between BWF MetaEdit and other applications. BWF MetaEdit can
import and export CORE Documents as XML or CSV. Once imported into BWF
MetaEdit the CORE information can be edited and embedded into audio
files. For files with existing bext and LIST-INFO metadata, BWF
MetaEdit can display and export this data as a CORE document. A CORE
document template can be generated within BWF MetaEdit or with another
application. The CORE document lists one record per audio file."

"The CORE Document is essentially a list of filepaths associated with
BEXT and LIST-INFO values. Please see BEXT and LIST-INFO for more
information and validation documentation for information on the
correct use of these standards."

Does the LIST-INFO section give us enough info to work with if
Rivendell were able to read it in from a wav file?
>
> There is a patch which allows start date start time end date end time to
> be put in the filename in a manner similar to that you describe. I have
> it and plan to test it on a non critical box here.
>
> Ideally this patch can be included in the rdimport options. Command line
> will be fine... it can make it to the GUI later!
>
> It's not that this has never been considered, it has been, but hasn't
> made it to the top of the list yet.
>
> It would be interesting to know how many users are manually setting
> start dates / times for cuts in carts that are time critical and who
> would find it useful to just save the file with the details written in
> the filename.
>
> Robert Jeffares
> Big Valley Radio
> The Wireless Station
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:24 -0500, Nathan Steele wrote:
>> OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a start
>> and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only play
>> on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but looking
>> in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the
>> start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see that
>> range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates
>> coming from and how do I fix them?
>>
>> My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2
>>
>> The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and upon creation
>> of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there.
>>
>> Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch instead. how
>> do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really seems like
>> dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata
>> pattern for start end date?
>>
>> Nathaniel C. Steele
>> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
>> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>>
>> On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > So I have amb-ux configured and running and all of my ambos recievers
>> > files are showing up in /var/amb-ux. Can someone recommend to me the
>> > best way to go about getting them into the appropriate carts? RDCATCH or
>> > Dropbox? Previously I was using a dropbox, which had the files put into
>> > it from a windows systemk running the ambos ui. Ambos UI would rename
>> > the files and put them into a directory that was used by another
>> > automation system for our other station. then we used an ftp program to
>> > log into the rivendell server and put the ones we needed into the
>> > dropbox, which would import them and overwrite the previous days cut.
>> > Now we are adding more programs that will not be used by the other
>> > station and personally I would like to take the windows box in the
>> > middle out of the equation. The nice thing was that the ambos UI would
>> > handle sending the correct days program, now I am faced with the task of
>> > getting the correct program out of a folder with several days worth of
>> > them in it, I know it can be done, just have to get there. any
>> > suggestions the files are named like this:
>> >
>> > "HCJB_BTC5_01_29_13_more numbers_maybe some version number_not sure"
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Nathan Steele]

I have been using the gui to do my dropboxes. If I set one up via 
command line, will it show in the GUI? I would totally forget about it 
if I didn't have a place to check. plus how do you change a dropbox 
setup by command line?
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
> this.
This might work for me but I have to figure out how amb-ux is working as 
to when and how many files are dumped at once. Initially I had setup 
amb-ux and it dumped 5 days worth of each program. Does anyone use 
amb-ux to transfer files from an AMR-100? based on my initial post that 
answer is NO, as I got NO repliesoh well...there also NO 
documentation on it.

Thanks.


Nathaniel C. Steele
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WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 2/1/2013 2:49 PM, Robert wrote:
> It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
> start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
> dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
> this.
>
> RD will read cart chunk data from a wav file, [start date end date] but
> as yet there are no linux audio editors that write cart chunk data. It's
> on the request list for Audacity but low priority because so few
> requests.[hint hint]
>
> There is a patch which allows start date start time end date end time to
> be put in the filename in a manner similar to that you describe. I have
> it and plan to test it on a non critical box here.
>
> Ideally this patch can be included in the rdimport options. Command line
> will be fine... it can make it to the GUI later!
>
> It's not that this has never been considered, it has been, but hasn't
> made it to the top of the list yet.
>
> It would be interesting to know how many users are manually setting
> start dates / times for cuts in carts that are time critical and who
> would find it useful to just save the file with the details written in
> the filename.
>
> Robert Jeffares
> Big Valley Radio
> The Wireless Station
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:24 -0500, Nathan Steele wrote:
>> OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a start
>> and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only play
>> on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but looking
>> in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the
>> start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see that
>> range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates
>> coming from and how do I fix them?
>>
>> My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2
>>
>> The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and upon creation
>> of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there.
>>
>> Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch instead. how
>> do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really seems like
>> dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata
>> pattern for start end date?
>>
>> Nathaniel C. Steele
>> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
>> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>>
>> On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> So I have amb-ux configured and running and all of my ambos recievers
>>> files are showing up in /var/amb-ux. Can someone recommend to me the
>>> best way to go about getting them into the appropriate carts? RDCATCH or
>>> Dropbox? Previously I was using a dropbox, which had the files put into
>>> it from a windows systemk running the ambos ui. Ambos UI would rename
>>> the files and put them into a directory that was used by another
>>> automation system for our other station. then we used an ftp program to
>>> log into the rivendell server and put the ones we needed into the
>>> dropbox, which would import them and overwrite the previous days cut.
>>> Now we are adding more programs that will not be used by the other
>>> station and personally I would like to take the windows box in the
>>> middle out of the equation. The nice thing was that the ambos UI would
>>> handle sending the correct days program, now I am faced with the task of
>>> getting the correct program out of a folder with several days worth of
>>> them in it, I know it can be done, just have to get there. any
>>> suggestions the files are named like this:
>>>
>>> "HCJB_BTC5_01_29_13_more numbers_maybe some version number_not sure"
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [RDD] Dropbox question, was amb-ux question.

[Robert]

It is possible to put files in the dropbox and have them carted with a
start date and end date based on 'today' the day you put them in the
dropbox. The offset start date end date in the Dropbox options allows
this.

RD will read cart chunk data from a wav file, [start date end date] but
as yet there are no linux audio editors that write cart chunk data. It's
on the request list for Audacity but low priority because so few
requests.[hint hint]

There is a patch which allows start date start time end date end time to
be put in the filename in a manner similar to that you describe. I have
it and plan to test it on a non critical box here. 

Ideally this patch can be included in the rdimport options. Command line
will be fine... it can make it to the GUI later!

It's not that this has never been considered, it has been, but hasn't
made it to the top of the list yet.

It would be interesting to know how many users are manually setting
start dates / times for cuts in carts that are time critical and who
would find it useful to just save the file with the details written in
the filename. 

Robert Jeffares
Big Valley Radio
The Wireless Station



On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:24 -0500, Nathan Steele wrote:
> OK, so I set this up with dropboxes, but the files come in with a start 
> and end date that allows for three days to play, I need it to only play 
> on one day and that day should be the date in the filename, but looking 
> in the ROG it doesn't seem like there is a metadata pattern for the 
> start/end date. I looked at a file in Adobe audition and can't see that 
> range in any of the cart chunk or other data. where are these dates 
> coming from and how do I fix them?
> 
> My dropbox path looks like this: /var/amb-ux/HCJB_BTC5*.MP2
> 
> The files are named like this HCJB_BTC5_01-30-13_01-01 and upon creation 
> of the dropbox. there were 5 days worth of files in there.
> 
> Having looked at the wiki it seems to suggest using rdcatch instead. how 
> do I use rdcatch to get a file from a local directory? really seems like 
> dropbox would be the more appropriate tool? Did I miss the medata 
> pattern for start end date?
> 
> Nathaniel C. Steele
> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
> 
> On 1/29/2013 5:15 PM, Nathan Steele wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > So I have amb-ux configured and running and all of my ambos recievers
> > files are showing up in /var/amb-ux. Can someone recommend to me the
> > best way to go about getting them into the appropriate carts? RDCATCH or
> > Dropbox? Previously I was using a dropbox, which had the files put into
> > it from a windows systemk running the ambos ui. Ambos UI would rename
> > the files and put them into a directory that was used by another
> > automation system for our other station. then we used an ftp program to
> > log into the rivendell server and put the ones we needed into the
> > dropbox, which would import them and overwrite the previous days cut.
> > Now we are adding more programs that will not be used by the other
> > station and personally I would like to take the windows box in the
> > middle out of the equation. The nice thing was that the ambos UI would
> > handle sending the correct days program, now I am faced with the task of
> > getting the correct program out of a folder with several days worth of
> > them in it, I know it can be done, just have to get there. any
> > suggestions the files are named like this:
> >
> > "HCJB_BTC5_01_29_13_more numbers_maybe some version number_not sure"
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
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Re: [RDD] dropbox question

[Nathan Steele]

Yes Just the air date.

so that's what offset is, OK, I'll see if I can hack something together. 
Never done any Linux shell scripting, just windows. this will be a 
project for tomorrow, I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks

Nathaniel C. Steele
Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM

On 8/7/2012 4:31 PM, Robert Jeffares wrote:
> If it's just the air date you are lucky, you can set cuts start date and
> end date offset by any number of days from today.
>
> Bit of jiggery pokery required with a script
>
> read filename
> figure out offset in days
> set paramaters for rdimport
> perform
> go to next file
>
> but you can't set a daypart [ start time end time] using rdimport
>
> this requires a lot of delving into MySQL in the current setup
>
> It could be a feature in rdimport
>
> we have discussed a format: StartTime MMDDHHMM EndTime MMDDHHMM
>
> which has to be such that rdimport can read and parse the dates and
> times.
>
> and it is on Fred's to do list
>
> deleting expired cuts is set up in rdadmin > groups
>
> bit flakey I find but if you have to delete a bunch it's a few clicks.
>
> regards
>
> Robert
>
> On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 15:14 -0400, Nathan Steele wrote:
>> I have a one minute spot that I get a months worth of at a time they
>> have the airdate in the file name, is it possible to use that to set the
>> dayparting in the cut during import, ie I want them all in the same cart
>> with dayparting set to only be played on the date in the filename, and
>> if they can be purged afterwards that would be great too.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [RDD] dropbox question

[Robert Jeffares]

If it's just the air date you are lucky, you can set cuts start date and
end date offset by any number of days from today.

Bit of jiggery pokery required with a script 

read filename
figure out offset in days
set paramaters for rdimport
perform
go to next file

but you can't set a daypart [ start time end time] using rdimport

this requires a lot of delving into MySQL in the current setup

It could be a feature in rdimport

we have discussed a format: StartTime MMDDHHMM EndTime MMDDHHMM

which has to be such that rdimport can read and parse the dates and
times.

and it is on Fred's to do list

deleting expired cuts is set up in rdadmin > groups

bit flakey I find but if you have to delete a bunch it's a few clicks.

regards

Robert

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 15:14 -0400, Nathan Steele wrote:
> I have a one minute spot that I get a months worth of at a time they 
> have the airdate in the file name, is it possible to use that to set the 
> dayparting in the cut during import, ie I want them all in the same cart 
> with dayparting set to only be played on the date in the filename, and 
> if they can be purged afterwards that would be great too.
> 
> Thanks
> 


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