Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-12 Thread Workino
Hello
If it possible I would like to have a look just to try to find out what is 
going on. 

Let me know contacting me directly please. 

Best regards
Gabriele 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 May 2020, at 18:23, Scott Powell  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have experienced the same problem log generation problems. we have 3 
> stations all on different servers. All run Riv 2.10.3 on Centos 6. eventually 
> wanting to move to Riv 3.x Centos 7.  but so far log generation has been a 
> hanging point. Have tried both the standalone and server install methods on 
> several different machines. we might get get two logs generated taking 
> anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour to generate. the third may never finish. 
> have come back the next day and it still has not completed.
> 
> have tried mysqltuner suggestions, with and without rddbcheck before 
> importing into new machine. so far have not stumbled across a fix. 
> 
> I have been exporting the database through rdadmin backup, so may try 
> mysqldump next time. then the only thing i know to do is to run the db 
> through 2.19x (i have one as a standby) then try it on a 3.x install
> 
> So Chuck and everyone I will continue to follow along and see what ideas 
> everyone has 
> 
> 
> Scott 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:16 AM Gabriele Fergola  wrote:
>> Chuck
>> please try to check what is wrong with mysql and why is hanging to 97%
>> login to mysql how root and do: show processlist;
>> this command will show you which process is hanging.
>> 
>> if u need more help we can arrange something to check what's wrong
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>>> Il giorno lun 11 mag 2020 alle ore 15:35 Chuck  
>>> ha scritto:
>>> Well, my understanding is that rddbcheck does not exist in v3, replaced by 
>>> a new GUI configuration tool, which does not include the "check"--only 
>>> Create, Backup, Restore, and Close.
>>> 
>>> I've got over 50,000 carts and my database has been around 400mb for years. 
>>> Using rddbcheck in v2 did not reduce the size substantially.
>>> 
>>> Tried to step back to v2 over the weekend, but the v2 appliance install did 
>>> not work, with the "rivendell-install" yum file missing and causing an 
>>> error.
>>> 
>>> Reinstalled v3.3 appliance and now output levels to the same sound card are 
>>> about half what they should be (and were on the previous install), and 
>>> mysqld is back up at 97% CPU. Version 3 is just plain troublesome.
>>> 
>>> --Chuck
>>> 
>>>> On Mo, 2020-05-11 at 21:02 +1200, Geoff Barkman wrote:
>>>> Hi there. 
>>>> I'm not familiar with rivendell 3x versions. But on rivendell 2x versions 
>>>> if the MySQL database got too big log creations took ages to create. Over 
>>>> 40 mb in a database slowed it down and a quick fix was to back up the DB 
>>>> and run rdbcheck to speed it up. 
>>>> Does that work with rivendell 3x?
>>>> Just a thought.
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> Geoff barkman
>>>> 
>>>> Just a thought?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:17 AM Jay Schell  wrote:
>>>>> Where is the config file located?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
>>>>>  on behalf of Workino 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
>>>>> To: Chuck 
>>>>> Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hello Chuck,
>>>>> The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the 
>>>>> memory. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache. If 
>>>>> MySQL starting to swap the answer can become slow. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Gabriele 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> > On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck  wrote:
>>>>> > 
>>>>> >   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is what
>>>>> > you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after rebooting,
>>>>> > log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
>>>

Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-12 Thread Scott Powell
I have experienced the same problem log generation problems. we have 3
stations all on different servers. All run Riv 2.10.3 on Centos 6.
eventually wanting to move to Riv 3.x Centos 7.  but so far log generation
has been a hanging point. Have tried both the standalone and server install
methods on several different machines. we might get get two logs generated
taking anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour to generate. the third may never
finish. have come back the next day and it still has not completed.

have tried mysqltuner suggestions, with and without rddbcheck before
importing into new machine. so far have not stumbled across a fix.

I have been exporting the database through rdadmin backup, so may try
mysqldump next time. then the only thing i know to do is to run the db
through 2.19x (i have one as a standby) then try it on a 3.x install

So Chuck and everyone I will continue to follow along and see what ideas
everyone has


Scott


<https://twitter.com/scooterpow>



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:16 AM Gabriele Fergola  wrote:

> Chuck
> please try to check what is wrong with mysql and why is hanging to 97%
> login to mysql how root and do: *show processlist;*
> this command will show you which process is hanging.
>
> if u need more help we can arrange something to check what's wrong
>
> Regards
>
> Il giorno lun 11 mag 2020 alle ore 15:35 Chuck 
> ha scritto:
>
>> Well, my understanding is that rddbcheck does not exist in v3, replaced
>> by a new GUI configuration tool, which does not include the "check"--only
>> Create, Backup, Restore, and Close.
>>
>> I've got over 50,000 carts and my database has been around 400mb for
>> years. Using rddbcheck in v2 did not reduce the size substantially.
>>
>> Tried to step back to v2 over the weekend, but the v2 appliance install
>> did not work, with the "rivendell-install" yum file missing and causing an
>> error.
>>
>> Reinstalled v3.3 appliance and now output levels to the same sound card
>> are about half what they should be (and were on the previous install), and
>> mysqld is back up at 97% CPU. Version 3 is just plain troublesome.
>>
>> --Chuck
>>
>> On Mo, 2020-05-11 at 21:02 +1200, Geoff Barkman wrote:
>>
>> Hi there.
>> I'm not familiar with rivendell 3x versions. But on rivendell 2x versions
>> if the MySQL database got too big log creations took ages to create. Over
>> 40 mb in a database slowed it down and a quick fix was to back up the DB
>> and run rdbcheck to speed it up.
>> Does that work with rivendell 3x?
>> Just a thought.
>> Many thanks
>> Geoff barkman
>>
>> Just a thought?
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:17 AM Jay Schell  wrote:
>>
>> Where is the config file located?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>> --
>> *From:* rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
>> rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of Workino <
>> work...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
>> *To:* Chuck 
>> *Cc:* rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
>> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times
>>
>> Hello Chuck,
>> The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the
>> memory.
>>
>> If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache. If
>> MySQL starting to swap the answer can become slow.
>>
>> Regards
>> Gabriele
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck  wrote:
>> >
>> >   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is what
>> > you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after rebooting,
>> > log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
>> > computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one log
>> > can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal operation
>> > that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database backup
>> > won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly, Airplay
>> > continues running through it all.  Tried totally different hardware,
>> > and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user end.
>> >
>> > --Chuck
>> >
>> >> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
>> >> Jay Schell  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers
>> >> running compl

Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-12 Thread Jay Schell
I found the fix.

I ran via the command line rddbcheck on the V2 database. It found some orphaned 
rule sets and allowed me to remove them. This made the database export go from 
251 MB down to 165 MB.

I then imported the database on the V3 machine BUT NOT do the upgrade to 314 
via the GUI.

I ran via the command line rddbmg -modify to upgrade the database.

I then ran rddbmgr -check and it said I needed to convert my tables from InnoDB 
to MYISAM format so I did that.

Then I opened RDAdmin and made the some changes to accommodate the new 
environment.

I then generated a log and it took 90 secondsyes 90 seconds!

I made a second a log and it again took about 90 seconds.

So far, so good.

Jay Schell
WLFC-FM Chief Engineer





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 On Behalf Of Robert Jeffares
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:19 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times


Hi Jay,

Rivendell has always been slow to construct logs on any platform despite ram 
and fast drives for the OS and with space for the scratch files which are not 
stored in virtual ram. Big library, lots of scheduler codes, lots of events, 
scheduler rules, many clocks. I have a small system [3000 audio tracks]  which 
can make a log in 5 minutes, and a big system [80,000 audio tracks] which takes 
an hour to create a log. Since the hour is at 1am and I am doing drum and bass 
in my bed it does not bother me.

The processing time is taken up by MySQL.

Looking at system demand when I create a log RDLOGMANAGER is hogging CPU at 80% 
or so

which can be tweaked. I have just looked at this and can see some rewarding 
long winter nights.

Yes it is a pain when you need to unschedule/reschedule after a Clock/Event 
change. Fortunately we work ahead enough to be able to keep this to a minimum 
and I have some clever setups that enable me to drop new stuff in once an hour.

Yes it's long compared to 'on the fly' scheduling systems, and one Windows 
based system which markets itself on the speed of log creation. I have clients 
who have, or have had these other systems, and they just don't do all the stuff 
Rivendell does. I can live with the overhead.

You can use a dedicated external music scheduler.

My winter project will be to explore MySQL and MariaDB and see what can be done.

regards

Robert
On 10/05/20 5:09 am, Jay Schell wrote:
I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers running 
completely different stations and audio libraries. The new servers are version 
3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am talking almost an hour to make 
one log. This is on an imported v2 database. Any thoughts on what might be 
wrong? The new server has lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is 
a database issue or hard drive performance issue.

Jay Schell
WLFC-FM Engineer



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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-11 Thread Robert Jeffares

Hi Jay,

Rivendell has always been slow to construct logs on any platform despite 
ram and fast drives for the OS and with space for the scratch files 
which are not stored in virtual ram. Big library, lots of scheduler 
codes, lots of events, scheduler rules, many clocks. I have a small 
system [3000 audio tracks]  which can make a log in 5 minutes, and a big 
system [80,000 audio tracks] which takes an hour to create a log. Since 
the hour is at 1am and I am doing drum and bass in my bed it does not 
bother me.


The processing time is taken up by MySQL.

Looking at system demand when I create a log RDLOGMANAGER is hogging CPU 
at 80% or so


which can be tweaked. I have just looked at this and can see some 
rewarding long winter nights.


Yes it is a pain when you need to unschedule/reschedule after a 
Clock/Event change. Fortunately we work ahead enough to be able to keep 
this to a minimum and I have some clever setups that enable me to drop 
new stuff in once an hour.


Yes it's long compared to 'on the fly' scheduling systems, and one 
Windows based system which markets itself on the speed of log creation. 
I have clients who have, or have had these other systems, and they just 
don't do all the stuff Rivendell does. I can live with the overhead.


You can use a dedicated external music scheduler.

My winter project will be to explore MySQL and MariaDB and see what can 
be done.


regards

Robert

On 10/05/20 5:09 am, Jay Schell wrote:


I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers 
running completely different stations and audio libraries. The new 
servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am 
talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported v2 
database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server has lots 
of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database issue or 
hard drive performance issue.


Jay Schell

WLFC-FM Engineer


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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-11 Thread Chuck
  Thanks Gabriele and David.  I'm away from the computers for the rest
of today, but will take it back up tomorrow.  I'm in creative and not
IT, and really want to go back to v2.  I need things to just work, and
v2 did.  There are many operational features of v3 that make it a
click-fest--for one thing, by picking "No" to confirmation dialogs when
99% of the time the real answer is "Yes"; v2 had the right choice as
default.  Stepping through fields with tab is no longer in sequential
order in various places; Edit Markers blows through Cut End without
stopping, so trimming the end marker is impossible; and that's just a
few problems that make v3 just too operationally difficult.  I'll take
v2, please.
--Chuck
On Mo, 2020-05-11 at 16:15 +0200, Gabriele Fergola wrote:
> Chuckplease try to check what is wrong with mysql and why is hanging
> to 97%
> login to mysql how root and do: show processlist;
> this command will show you which process is hanging.
> 
> if u need more help we can arrange something to check what's wrong
> 
> Regards
> 
> Il giorno lun 11 mag 2020 alle ore 15:35 Chuck <
> dj.chuc...@googlemail.com> ha scritto:
> >   Well, my understanding is that rddbcheck does not exist in v3,
> > replaced by a new GUI configuration tool, which does not include
> > the "check"--only Create, Backup, Restore, and Close.
> >   I've got over 50,000 carts and my database has been around 400mb
> > for years.  Using rddbcheck in v2 did not reduce the size
> > substantially.
> >   Tried to step back to v2 over the weekend, but the v2 appliance
> > install did not work, with the "rivendell-install" yum file missing
> > and causing an error.
> >   Reinstalled v3.3 appliance and now output levels to the same
> > sound card are about half what they should be (and were on the
> > previous install), and mysqld is back up at 97% CPU.  Version 3 is
> > just plain troublesome.
> > --Chuck
> > On Mo, 2020-05-11 at 21:02 +1200, Geoff Barkman wrote:
> > > Hi there. I'm not familiar with rivendell 3x versions. But on
> > > rivendell 2x versions if the MySQL database got too big log
> > > creations took ages to create. Over 40 mb in a database slowed it
> > > down and a quick fix was to back up the DB and run rdbcheck to
> > > speed it up. Does that work with rivendell 3x?
> > > Just a thought.
> > > Many thanks
> > > Geoff barkman
> > > 
> > > Just a thought?
> > > On Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:17 AM Jay Schell 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Where is the config file located?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> > > > rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of
> > > > Workino 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
> > > > 
> > > > To: Chuck 
> > > > 
> > > > Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> > > > rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hello Chuck,
> > > > 
> > > > The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be
> > > > the memory. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the
> > > > cache. If MySQL starting to swap the answer can become slow.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > 
> > > > Gabriele 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of
> > > > them is what
> > > > 
> > > > > you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after
> > > > rebooting,
> > > > 
> > > > >

Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-11 Thread Gabriele Fergola
Chuck
please try to check what is wrong with mysql and why is hanging to 97%
login to mysql how root and do: *show processlist;*
this command will show you which process is hanging.

if u need more help we can arrange something to check what's wrong

Regards

Il giorno lun 11 mag 2020 alle ore 15:35 Chuck 
ha scritto:

> Well, my understanding is that rddbcheck does not exist in v3, replaced by
> a new GUI configuration tool, which does not include the "check"--only
> Create, Backup, Restore, and Close.
>
> I've got over 50,000 carts and my database has been around 400mb for
> years. Using rddbcheck in v2 did not reduce the size substantially.
>
> Tried to step back to v2 over the weekend, but the v2 appliance install
> did not work, with the "rivendell-install" yum file missing and causing an
> error.
>
> Reinstalled v3.3 appliance and now output levels to the same sound card
> are about half what they should be (and were on the previous install), and
> mysqld is back up at 97% CPU. Version 3 is just plain troublesome.
>
> --Chuck
>
> On Mo, 2020-05-11 at 21:02 +1200, Geoff Barkman wrote:
>
> Hi there.
> I'm not familiar with rivendell 3x versions. But on rivendell 2x versions
> if the MySQL database got too big log creations took ages to create. Over
> 40 mb in a database slowed it down and a quick fix was to back up the DB
> and run rdbcheck to speed it up.
> Does that work with rivendell 3x?
> Just a thought.
> Many thanks
> Geoff barkman
>
> Just a thought?
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:17 AM Jay Schell  wrote:
>
> Where is the config file located?
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
> --
> *From:* rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of Workino <
> work...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
> *To:* Chuck 
> *Cc:* rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times
>
> Hello Chuck,
> The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the
> memory.
>
> If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache. If
> MySQL starting to swap the answer can become slow.
>
> Regards
> Gabriele
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck  wrote:
> >
> >   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is what
> > you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after rebooting,
> > log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
> > computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one log
> > can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal operation
> > that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database backup
> > won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly, Airplay
> > continues running through it all.  Tried totally different hardware,
> > and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user end.
> >
> > --Chuck
> >
> >> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
> >> Jay Schell  wrote:
> >>
> >> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers
> >> running completely different stations and audio libraries. The new
> >> servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am
> >> talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported v2
> >> database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server has
> >> lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database
> >> issue or hard drive performance issue.
> >>
> >> Jay Schell
> >> WLFC-FM Engineer
> >
> >
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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-11 Thread David Klann

Hey Chuck,

On 5/11/20 8:35 AM, you wrote:
Well, my understanding is that rddbcheck does not exist in v3, replaced 
by a new GUI configuration tool, which does not include the 
"check"--only Create, Backup, Restore, and Close.




I"m not sure this will help, but there *is* an equivalent in 3.X: 
rddbmgr. It's even got a manual page: "man rddbmgr" for more details.


I've got over 50,000 carts and my database has been around 400mb for 
years. Using rddbcheck in v2 did not reduce the size substantially.




Concur. Cleaning up the database with rddbmgr probably won't help much 
to decrease the time spent creating logs.


Tried to step back to v2 over the weekend, but the v2 appliance install 
did not work, with the "rivendell-install" yum file missing and causing 
an error.


Reinstalled v3.3 appliance and now output levels to the same sound card 
are about half what they should be (and were on the previous install), 
and mysqld is back up at 97% CPU. Version 3 is just plain troublesome.




MySQL (and MariaDB) is a complex beast. I suspect this may be your 
problem, not Rivendell proper. Take a look at some of the documentation 
on the MySQL website or the knowledge base articles at 
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/optimization-and-tuning/


For example, you can see what MySQL/MariaDB is up to with the "show full 
processlist" command in the command line app "mysql". It's difficult to 
troubleshoot database problems via email: feel free to contact me off 
list if you want more specific help.


  ~David Klann

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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-11 Thread Chuck
  Well, my understanding is that rddbcheck does not exist in v3,
replaced by a new GUI configuration tool, which does not include the
"check"--only Create, Backup, Restore, and Close.
  I've got over 50,000 carts and my database has been around 400mb for
years.  Using rddbcheck in v2 did not reduce the size substantially.
  Tried to step back to v2 over the weekend, but the v2 appliance
install did not work, with the "rivendell-install" yum file missing and
causing an error.
  Reinstalled v3.3 appliance and now output levels to the same sound
card are about half what they should be (and were on the previous
install), and mysqld is back up at 97% CPU.  Version 3 is just plain
troublesome.
--Chuck
On Mo, 2020-05-11 at 21:02 +1200, Geoff Barkman wrote:
> Hi there. I'm not familiar with rivendell 3x versions. But on
> rivendell 2x versions if the MySQL database got too big log creations
> took ages to create. Over 40 mb in a database slowed it down and a
> quick fix was to back up the DB and run rdbcheck to speed it up. Does
> that work with rivendell 3x?
> Just a thought.
> Many thanks
> Geoff barkman
> 
> Just a thought?
> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:17 AM Jay Schell  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Where is the config file located?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> > rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of
> > Workino 
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
> > 
> > To: Chuck 
> > 
> > Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> > rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Chuck,
> > 
> > The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the
> > memory. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache.
> > If MySQL starting to swap the answer can become slow.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Gabriele 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them
> > is what
> > 
> > > you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after
> > rebooting,
> > 
> > > log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
> > 
> > > computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one
> > log
> > 
> > > can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal
> > operation
> > 
> > > that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database
> > backup
> > 
> > > won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly,
> > Airplay
> > 
> > > continues running through it all.  Tried totally different
> > hardware,
> > 
> > > and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user
> > end.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > --Chuck
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
> > 
> > >> Jay Schell  wrote:
> > 
> > >> 
> > 
> > >> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell
> > servers
> > 
> > >> running completely different stations and audio libraries. The
> > new
> > 
> > >> servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I
> > am
> > 
> > >> talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported
> > v2
> > 
> > >> database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server
> > has
> > 
> > >> lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database
> > 
> > >> issue or hard drive performance issue.
> > 
> > >> 
> > 
> > >> Jay Schell
> > 
> > >> WLFC-FM Engineer
> > 
> > > 
> > 
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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-11 Thread Geoff Barkman
Hi there.
I'm not familiar with rivendell 3x versions. But on rivendell 2x versions
if the MySQL database got too big log creations took ages to create. Over
40 mb in a database slowed it down and a quick fix was to back up the DB
and run rdbcheck to speed it up.
Does that work with rivendell 3x?
Just a thought.
Many thanks
Geoff barkman

Just a thought?

On Mon, May 11, 2020, 7:17 AM Jay Schell  wrote:

> Where is the config file located?
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
> --
> *From:* rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of Workino <
> work...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
> *To:* Chuck 
> *Cc:* rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times
>
> Hello Chuck,
> The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the
> memory.
>
> If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache. If
> MySQL starting to swap the answer can become slow.
>
> Regards
> Gabriele
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck  wrote:
> >
> >   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is what
> > you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after rebooting,
> > log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
> > computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one log
> > can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal operation
> > that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database backup
> > won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly, Airplay
> > continues running through it all.  Tried totally different hardware,
> > and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user end.
> >
> > --Chuck
> >
> >> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
> >> Jay Schell  wrote:
> >>
> >> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers
> >> running completely different stations and audio libraries. The new
> >> servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am
> >> talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported v2
> >> database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server has
> >> lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database
> >> issue or hard drive performance issue.
> >>
> >> Jay Schell
> >> WLFC-FM Engineer
> >
> >
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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-10 Thread Chuck
  I am a creative and definitely not very IT savy, but must maintain my
own installation.  Hardware is Lenovo S340 laptop.  Just checked top
and it showed mysqld at 97% CPU.  Rebooted and it went to 0.1%.  30
minutes later it is back to 97%, and doing the wonky long log
generation.  Nearly 6gb of RAM free out of 8gb.  No swap use at all.
--Chuck
On Su, 2020-05-10 at 19:17 +, Jay Schell wrote:
> Where is the config file located?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of Workino
> 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
> 
> To: Chuck 
> 
> Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <
> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
> 
> Subject: Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times
>  
> 
> 
> Hello Chuck,
> 
> The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the
> memory. 
> 
> 
> 
> If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache.
> If MySQL starting to swap the answer can become slow.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gabriele 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> > On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck  wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> >   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is
> what
> 
> > you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after
> rebooting,
> 
> > log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
> 
> > computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one
> log
> 
> > can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal
> operation
> 
> > that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database backup
> 
> > won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly, Airplay
> 
> > continues running through it all.  Tried totally different
> hardware,
> 
> > and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user end.
> 
> > 
> 
> > --Chuck
> 
> > 
> 
> >> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
> 
> >> Jay Schell  wrote:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell
> servers
> 
> >> running completely different stations and audio libraries. The new
> 
> >> servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am
> 
> >> talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported v2
> 
> >> database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server has
> 
> >> lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database
> 
> >> issue or hard drive performance issue.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Jay Schell
> 
> >> WLFC-FM Engineer
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-10 Thread Jay Schell
Where is the config file located?

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Workino 

Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 2:45:15 PM
To: Chuck 
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 

Subject: Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

Hello Chuck,
The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the memory.

If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache. If MySQL 
starting to swap the answer can become slow.

Regards
Gabriele

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck  wrote:
>
>   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is what
> you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after rebooting,
> log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
> computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one log
> can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal operation
> that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database backup
> won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly, Airplay
> continues running through it all.  Tried totally different hardware,
> and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user end.
>
> --Chuck
>
>> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
>> Jay Schell  wrote:
>>
>> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers
>> running completely different stations and audio libraries. The new
>> servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am
>> talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported v2
>> database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server has
>> lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database
>> issue or hard drive performance issue.
>>
>> Jay Schell
>> WLFC-FM Engineer
>
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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-10 Thread Workino
Hello Chuck,
The database is on the same computer? If yes the problem can be the memory. 

If this is the case check the configuration of MySQL and the cache. If MySQL 
starting to swap the answer can become slow. 

Regards
Gabriele 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 May 2020, at 18:31, Chuck  wrote:
> 
>   I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is what
> you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after rebooting,
> log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
> computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one log
> can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal operation
> that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database backup
> won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly, Airplay
> continues running through it all.  Tried totally different hardware,
> and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user end.
> 
> --Chuck
> 
>> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
>> Jay Schell  wrote:
>> 
>> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers
>> running completely different stations and audio libraries. The new
>> servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am
>> talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported v2
>> database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server has
>> lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database
>> issue or hard drive performance issue.
>> 
>> Jay Schell
>> WLFC-FM Engineer
> 
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Re: [RDD] Painful log generating times

2020-05-10 Thread Chuck
  I am experiencing lots of problems with v3.3, and one of them is what
you mention.  However, if I generate logs immediately after rebooting,
log creation is amazingly fast--less than 3 minutes.  But if the
computer has been running for an hour or so, just generating one log
can take up to 3 hours.  Something is happening during normal operation
that messes things up.  After the problem surfaces, database backup
won't work, and even the Library finally locks up.  Oddly, Airplay
continues running through it all.  Tried totally different hardware,
and the problem is there on both, so I doubt it is on the user end.

--Chuck

> On Sa, 9 May 2020 17:09:47 +
> Jay Schell  wrote:
> 
> I built a new virtualization server for hosting two Rivendell servers
> running completely different stations and audio libraries. The new
> servers are version 3 but generating logs is taking FOREVER, I am
> talking almost an hour to make one log. This is on an imported v2
> database. Any thoughts on what might be wrong? The new server has
> lots of RAM and processing speed so I wonder if it is a database
> issue or hard drive performance issue.
> 
> Jay Schell
> WLFC-FM Engineer


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