Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.04, codename Freedom RELEASED
On Wednesday, May 09, 2012, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: auto setting does and how/if it works, and why the default behaviour is auto. I guess the feature was invented to solve a known sequencing problem ? More or less, the feature was invented to solve the problem of what to do when you've got, say, a bunch of pitch bends in this segment, and a bunch of pitch bends in that segment, and in the course of editing, you drop both of them onto the same track at the same time. What you'd get before, both segments are playing through, say, General Midi Synth #1, which was linked to channel 1. The pitch bends would walk all over each other. What you get now, instrument #1 might actually use two or more channels to reproduce whatever it has on the table that needs reproducing at a given time. Each of those segments would wind up playing on a different channel. That's kind of the gist of it anyway. I didn't invent or develop the feature, and it isn't solving any problem that I considered particularly important myself. I more or less gave Tom the OK to play with his idea, and after he went off and poured an ocean of time into working through this immensely complicated thing, I couldn't very well tell him we had to leave it stuck rotting in a branch. I did the best I could to work through using it and make sure everything was still going to work on the far side of this giant sea change in how Rosegarden works under the hood. We went back and forth for a long time, and he kept hammering on it until I was finally satisfied we could try releasing it. I consider it highly experimental, and am very open to how users in the field think this ought to be refined. I do feel like it's fundamentally workable at this point, and I'm much more interested in thinking about ways to solve any remaining problems than I am trying to figure out how to revert all of this. It's not technically impossible to go back, but it's wildly impractical. It was a pretty big change. It took him months to get this done, and it had impacts in dozens, if not hundreds of places. So for starters, I'd say there's a request on the table to add some kind of global always used fixed instruments override. I'll pass that along. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
On Wednesday, May 09, 2012, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: ...It's a prettier example of the same sort of breed as that car. After a bit more reflection, it occurs to me the real problem is not the eclectic design, but that every neat little gizmo bolted onto this thing was manufactured by a different company. We've got imperial and metric measurements, different voltage standards, three-phase motors that have to be fed with a rotary converter, etc. All the parts were made to different standards, and most of the manufacturers are long since out of business, so if you call the number stamped on the part to ask someone a question, you're going to get a disconnected message, and then you're going to have to figure it out for yourself, or build a new part from scratch. I usually get stuck doing the latter myself, because I'm just no good at getting into other people's heads. I guess this problem affects all software development, but I wouldn't know that, because I'm not a professional by any means. I guess Rosegarden is my rude awakening to all the jubilation and glee I missed out on by being a liberal arts major. No great loss. Software is a pain in the ass. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
liberal arts major. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1VhsNOwPU No great loss. Software is a pain in the ass. It is. And any professional software of this size and complexity would be equally gnarly. It's just the way it is and we all learn to accept this eventually because for some of us it enables us to earn money. I no longer complain how shit software is because I know it's keeping me employed. On that score you could very easily get a job as a software developer if you do wished! Right - I'm going to crawl through this weeks conversations on rg-devel and rg-user and see if I can put some names next to things to do. Or at least get a feel for level of support for future directions. On one point - who hosts the RG website currently and any chance making this editable with some non stone-age tools and for multiple users? R -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
On 10 May 2012 12:38, Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote: On one point - who hosts the RG website currently and any chance making this editable with some non stone-age tools and for multiple users? I host it. It gets updated automatically from the Subversion repo. (https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/website) I don't disagree in principle that the site could usefully be shinier and easier to edit -- it does date from 2004 after all. But don't forget that overhauling websites (regardless of tools) is a time sink almost comparable to developing software, especially since everyone always has an opinion... Chris -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.04, codename Freedom RELEASED
Hi Michael, Thank you for all of your efforts on this project. I know its overwhelming and lonely at times. You have all my gratitude for keeping it going. I am looking forward to delving into this release. It comes at a time when I actually have the time to compile it and not wait for a binary in a repository. Dave On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:03 AM, D. Michael McIntyre michael.mcint...@rosegardenmusic.com wrote: On Wednesday, May 09, 2012, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: auto setting does and how/if it works, and why the default behaviour is auto. I guess the feature was invented to solve a known sequencing problem ? More or less, the feature was invented to solve the problem of what to do when you've got, say, a bunch of pitch bends in this segment, and a bunch of pitch bends in that segment, and in the course of editing, you drop both of them onto the same track at the same time. What you'd get before, both segments are playing through, say, General Midi Synth #1, which was linked to channel 1. The pitch bends would walk all over each other. What you get now, instrument #1 might actually use two or more channels to reproduce whatever it has on the table that needs reproducing at a given time. Each of those segments would wind up playing on a different channel. That's kind of the gist of it anyway. I didn't invent or develop the feature, and it isn't solving any problem that I considered particularly important myself. I more or less gave Tom the OK to play with his idea, and after he went off and poured an ocean of time into working through this immensely complicated thing, I couldn't very well tell him we had to leave it stuck rotting in a branch. I did the best I could to work through using it and make sure everything was still going to work on the far side of this giant sea change in how Rosegarden works under the hood. We went back and forth for a long time, and he kept hammering on it until I was finally satisfied we could try releasing it. I consider it highly experimental, and am very open to how users in the field think this ought to be refined. I do feel like it's fundamentally workable at this point, and I'm much more interested in thinking about ways to solve any remaining problems than I am trying to figure out how to revert all of this. It's not technically impossible to go back, but it's wildly impractical. It was a pretty big change. It took him months to get this done, and it had impacts in dozens, if not hundreds of places. So for starters, I'd say there's a request on the table to add some kind of global always used fixed instruments override. I'll pass that along. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
I guess this problem affects all software development, but I wouldn't know that, because I'm not a professional by any means. I guess Rosegarden is my rude awakening to all the jubilation and glee I missed out on by being a liberal arts major. No great loss. Software is a pain in the ass. -- D. Michael McIntyre I guess people like me are part of the problem in this regard, turn up one day, chuck something in to do with linked segments and then f. off into the sunset. Fly-by-night, here today and gone tomorrow contributors :-( While dusting off my jack-midi code I noticed I was also halfway through implementing a scheme for copy/pasting linked segments more flexibly, but I got scared of committing it for fear of bringing the whole pack-o-cards down around my ears. If it's any consolation (which I'm sure it isn't), I'm currently making my living from code development, and the codes I work on which pay my wages are much much MUCH worse than Rosegarden under the hood. Doing it for a living though you do at least get the pleasant face-to-face company of your fellow developers to share a laugh with at tea break time. That helps A LOT. I guess one possible way to ameliorate the bejeesus, this codebase is an unmaintainable spaghetti! problem is automated testing. Given that RG is command driven it might be possible to put a command serialisation scheme in place to generate a sort of composition building script (basically a dump of the command stack). Sarcasm Merely requires a pure virtual serialise() function in the Command class, and the appropriate implementation in all 150,000 commands currently in RG /Sarcasm. Then if you do some work and the tests still pass, you can't have done too much wrong, even if you don't understand every other part of the code, you just know you haven't broken it too badly. Which part of the whole RG workflow is being the most unstable atm? Composition creation/editing? Recording/playback? Ian. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
[cc -devel] On 10 May 2012 13:41, Ian Gardner ilgard...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I guess people like me are part of the problem in this regard, turn up one day, chuck something in to do with linked segments and then f. off into the sunset. Fly-by-night, here today and gone tomorrow contributors :-( Well, you could say anyone who ever wrote any of the code is part of the problem by now! I know I am. I guess one possible way to ameliorate the bejeesus, this codebase is an unmaintainable spaghetti! problem is automated testing. Well, as you know, the difficulty with automated unit testing is the sheer effort involved in writing tests (after the fact) that cover more than a tiny percentage of possible cases. [On another project I'm currently in the middle of porting some existing unit tests to a different test framework (without changing their content) just to sit better with the rest of the code. I can't believe how much work it is -- I never really noticed the initial effort of writing the tests for that code because I did it at the same time as writing the code under test, but when you look at it afterwards there's a heck of a lot of it and I simply can't imagine doing it all at once after the fact, even if it didn't actually take any real thought.] I do like the suggestion of using slightly higher-level test cases with synthetic series of commands though (given serialisable command classes). Apart from anything else, then you could supplement human-designed tests with pseudo-random command sequences or fuzz tests, which would give quite a good tradeoff of effort against effectiveness. Chris -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want it here. Songwriters Will J Godfrey Holger Marzen Neil Bryan User/Supporter Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc? Current Core Dev Michael Tom Breton Daren Beattie Ian Gardner A plan for the future Dev direction if any. Having no plan is also fine. Devs or Interested in Ports Ian Gardner Mac Port David Tisdell Mac Port potentially? Richard Windows Port. Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities? Website Brett McCoy Michael Chris? Richard Some idea of what to do with it and how to go forward. Thoughts? R-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
Richard Bown wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want it here. Songwriters Will J Godfrey Holger Marzen Neil Bryan User/Supporter Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc? Current Core Dev Michael Tom Breton Daren Beattie Ian Gardner A plan for the future Dev direction if any. Having no plan is also fine. Devs or Interested in Ports Ian Gardner Mac Port David Tisdell Mac Port potentially? Richard Windows Port. Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities? Website Brett McCoy Michael Chris? Richard Some idea of what to do with it and how to go forward. Thoughts? Yes, I have some thoughts! To briefly introduce myself so I don't look like an intruder, I have been a on-off Rosegarden User for many years (and still am when I find time for making music) and my tiny contributions so far for RG have been two instrument definition files (Korg 05R/W and Yamaha RM50), a RG 1.7.3 Package for Mandriva 3 years ago and now a RG package for RHEL 6 and clones. I'm not a programmer so can't help on that side (I'm a sysadmin professionally). To get back on subject, I think RG needs to be more visible in the Linux world to attract new users and even more importantly make sure that packagers of all major Linux distros are aware of new releases, so that the latest version swiftly ends up in the repos of current distros. Without this crucial task most users will never be able to use RG as very few users are experienced enough to build from source themselves! Like I mentioned in another post I have taken the liberty to post the 12.04 release announcement to Lxer.com and linuxtoday.com. IMHO this should be standard practice at every new release as it keeps RG in the news (at least occasionally) and it might alert packagers that there is a new version out. But since it's far from certain that all or even most packagers read these Linux newssites, it would maybe be useful to set up a rosegarden-announce mailing list just for new release announcements and then contact packagers of linux distros that have packaged up previous versions of RG encouraging them to subscribe to that list so that they stay informed about new releases. Regards, Andy -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Holger Marzen hol...@marzen.de wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012, Richard Bown wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want it here. Songwriters Will J Godfrey Holger Marzen Neil Bryan User/Supporter Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc? Yep. Songs to be downloaded. And maybe hints and some technical notes how the songs were made. Maybe screenshots. I can definitely contribute under this area also. Every piece of music I have online (and it's quite a bit) was done with Rosegarden and Ardour. -- Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world. -- Jelaleddin Rumi -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on flatte
Hello there, I wanted to support Rosegarden on flattr. There is a rosegarden-on-Flattr, but I wanted to ask you first if Rosegarden is actually registered there and I'm spending my money actually on it. Best regards, Manuel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
I can try and recruit some Mac developers but I am not a developer myself. I know how to compile things but not write code. I could also contribute something in the songwriting area. Another thought is that Debian used to post a list of consultants (probably still does) where people could go for learning or support. Perhaps Rosegarden could add that to the web site. I could easily do trainings in the New England/New York area. If we had a list of people who were willing and able to present on the software, we could expand the user base which should attract some new developers. Dave On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Holger Marzen hol...@marzen.de wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012, Richard Bown wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want it here. Songwriters Will J Godfrey Holger Marzen Neil Bryan User/Supporter Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc? Current Core Dev Michael Tom Breton Daren Beattie Ian Gardner A plan for the future Dev direction if any. Having no plan is also fine. Devs or Interested in Ports Ian Gardner Mac Port David Tisdell Mac Port potentially? Richard Windows Port. Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities? Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want it here. Songwriters Will J Godfrey Holger Marzen Neil Bryan User/Supporter Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc? Yep. Songs to be downloaded. And maybe hints and some technical notes how the songs were made. Maybe screenshots. I can definitely contribute under this area also. Every piece of music I have online (and it's quite a bit) was done with Rosegarden and Ardour. -- Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it, it would overturn the world. -- Jelaleddin Rumi -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Rosegarden's Future
On 10 May 2012 16:18, Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote: Devs or Interested in Ports I'm not particularly interested in a Mac port and don't especially want one, but I'm certainly competent to make one and would try to help out if there was more general interest. (Why not particularly interested? I just don't see much evidence from other projects that it increases the active developer base, it'll only make for difficulties with users because it's not a very Mac-like app) Chris I have been relegated to a windows machine while at work. This creates problems in my otherwise amazing and efficient Linux workflow. Rosegarden is essential. Until I save for a personal computer of some kind which I can bring with me and use for my Linux DAW, I have to deal with xp. The Rosegarden windows version at least gives me hope. As does the qtjack/fluidsysth gui windows port. Haven't got everything working together but just a huge thank you to all those reading this. I will donate again when I can. Your work is appreciated. And your tech talk is often hilarious! ♯♫♮♫♭♫ Brian Clem ♭♫♮♫♯♫♮♩ Music Teacher Durrance Elementary School -- The information contained in this e-mail message is intended solely for the recipient(s) and may contain privileged information. Tampering with or altering the contents of this message is prohibited. This information is the same as any written document and may be subject to all rules governing public information according to Florida Statutes. Any message that falls under Chapter 119 shall not be altered in a manner that misrepresents the activities of Orange County Public Schools. [References: Florida State Constitution I.24, Florida State Statutes Chapter 119, and OCPS Management Directive A-9.] If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient notify the sender and delete this message from your computer. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
On Wed, 9 May 2012 07:20:25 +0200 (CEST) Holger Marzen hol...@marzen.de wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2012, Abrolag wrote: On the promotional side... For what it's worth, absolutely every track on my website - and there are one or two there :) - was developed and performed using Rosegarden. This includes controlling both hardware and soft synths, hydrogen drum machine and embedded audio. As a 50 years old man I started again making music after 25 years of being busy with other things. Its now a few weeks since I noticed Rosegarden, and I liked it from the first moment on. To get rid of big latencies and jitter I used fluidsynth as a plugin. This is the only synth I used in the song Die Nacht am Meer, even for the drums. My wife was so happy with the results that she placed the song on her blog: http://sally13.de/blog/?p=2935 (http://sally13.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/die_nacht_am_meer.mp3) Of course she placed a Rosegarden-Link as well there. I am very, very happy that development goes on. Unfortunately I cannot install all the neccessary header files on my Ubuntu 11.10 to compile the most recent version of Rosegarden because of dependency conflicts. I guess on this Ubuntu there's still a little mess when you have 64 and 32 bit software mixed However, Rosegarden is my favourite tool. Regards Holger Enjoyed this. Very nice vocal harmonies. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:18:11 +0200 Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want it here. Songwriters Will J Godfrey Holger Marzen Neil Bryan User/Supporter Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc? Just checked, and there still is a link to my homepage from Rosegarden's 'Community' page :) -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
On 05/10/2012 05:46 AM, Andy wrote: Richard Bown wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want it here. Songwriters Will J Godfrey Holger Marzen Neil Bryan User/Supporter Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc? Current Core Dev Michael Tom Breton Daren Beattie Ian Gardner A plan for the future Dev direction if any. Having no plan is also fine. Devs or Interested in Ports Ian Gardner Mac Port David Tisdell Mac Port potentially? Richard Windows Port. Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities? Website Brett McCoy Michael Chris? Richard Some idea of what to do with it and how to go forward. Thoughts? Yes, I have some thoughts! To briefly introduce myself so I don't look like an intruder, I have been a on-off Rosegarden User for many years (and still am when I find time for making music) and my tiny contributions so far for RG have been two instrument definition files (Korg 05R/W and Yamaha RM50), a RG 1.7.3 Package for Mandriva 3 years ago and now a RG package for RHEL 6 and clones. I'm not a programmer so can't help on that side (I'm a sysadmin professionally). To get back on subject, I think RG needs to be more visible in the Linux world to attract new users and even more importantly make sure that packagers of all major Linux distros are aware of new releases, so that the latest version swiftly ends up in the repos of current distros. Without this crucial task most users will never be able to use RG as very few users are experienced enough to build from source themselves! Like I mentioned in another post I have taken the liberty to post the 12.04 release announcement to Lxer.com and linuxtoday.com. IMHO this should be standard practice at every new release as it keeps RG in the news (at least occasionally) and it might alert packagers that there is a new version out. But since it's far from certain that all or even most packagers read these Linux newssites, it would maybe be useful to set up a rosegarden-announce mailing list just for new release announcements and then contact packagers of linux distros that have packaged up previous versions of RG encouraging them to subscribe to that list so that they stay informed about new releases. Announcements on linux-audio-announcements? During an email chat with one of the KDE4 developers a few years ago, I mentioned that Rosegarden 10 was coming out. He said that was great news, that RG was one of our major audio applications. So not just musicians think so! -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
