[RollTideFan] The Rest of the Story
http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ArticleID=6ID=5838 The Rest of the Story Two Memphis federal court cases get lopsided coverage from local media. JOHN BRANSTON Media coverage of two big pending federal court cases -- one involving former medical examiner O.C. Smith and one involving football booster Logan Young -- again failed to note the significance of the latest developments. In the Smith case, a fellow medical examiner concluded that the Shelby County Regional Forensic Center is unresponsive and handles evidence carelessly and that Smith, accused of faking a bizarre attack on himself in 2002, made statements under oath with professional certainty that were actually opinions and speculative. In Young's case, a judge promised to act within a month on a motion to dismiss the case. In a related case in Alabama, two University of Alabama officials gave affidavits about the NCAA investigation of the Albert Means recruiting case that suggest that it may be a house of cards. The Commercial Appeal, heavily invested in the credibility of Smith in general and in the NCAA and state and federal prosecutors in Young's case, ignored key elements of both stories. Taking the Smith case first, Smith's apologists put a positive spin on Nashville medical examiner Bruce Levy's report last month, in which Levy agreed that Philip Workman fired the gunshot that killed Memphis police lieutenant Ronald Oliver in 1981. Workman is on death row. Governor Phil Bredesen asked Levy to review Smith's testimony in clemency hearings for Workman in 2000 and 2001. (Smith is under federal indictment for giving false statements about the alleged attack on him.) Last year, Bredesen issued a stay of execution for Workman pending completion of the Smith investigation. When the feds called Smith a liar, the governor asked Levy to review his Workman testimony. I am not at all surprised by Dr. Levy's opinion, said Shelby County district attorney general Bill Gibbons. It is what I expected. Twenty-two years ago, a jury of citizens decided that Philip Workman deserved the death penalty. It is past time to carry out that decision. Levy's report, however, should give pause to any prosecutor dependent on Smith. It is anything but an endorsement. On the contrary, Levy was critical of Smith on several counts, including his work on the Workman case. There was initial difficulty locating the original autopsy materials from Smith's office, according to Levy. Levy requested materials from Smith's office in February but was told that they were missing. They were eventually located after my fourth request, reportedly during a search of the basement of the Shelby County Regional Forensic Center on or about April 2, 2004. They were reportedly in an unlabeled evidence bag behind some boxes. Levy said he is concerned about the obvious violation of the proper handling and storage of autopsy evidence and materials, especially given recent allegations of other missing evidence from the forensic center. The missing evidence is body parts. Smith also allowed the professional certification of the office to lapse. The highly secretive office was as sloppy and unresponsive to the governor as it was to local media. And in Workman's case, Although the recovered bullet could be the bullet that killed Lt. Oliver, Smith's opinion that it is the fatal bullet to the exclusion of all others is speculative, Levy wrote. This is the medical examiner whom Gibbons and fellow prosecutors have relied on in hundreds of close cases that are matters of life and death. In Logan Young's case, U.S. District Judge Daniel Breen said last week he will rule within 30 days on a defense motion to dismiss. Such motions are commonplace, but this one plausibly argues that even if Young gave money to former high school football coach Lynn Lang, it wasn't a federal crime because it would not have corrupted Lang in the performance of his public duties as a football coach. Defense attorney Robert Hutton says it is analogous to a parent paying a teacher to tutor a child as opposed to bribing a teacher to give a child a high grade. Breen has already affirmed an order of U.S. magistrate Diane Vescovo requiring the NCAA and University of Tennessee football coach Phil Fulmer to produce tapes and records. Federal prosecutors have appealed. The next court date is May 24th. Meanwhile, in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Circuit Court, university officials Gene Marsh and Marie Robbins were dismissed from a related case because the plaintiffs decided they were used and misled by the NCAA and the university in the investigation of Alabama's football program. Marsh is a law professor and a member of the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions. Robbins is associate athletic director. The plaintiffs are former Alabama football coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams. Marsh says in an affidavit that the NCAA failed to share information they had received
[RollTideFan] What Price is saying
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/7303546 What Price is saying -- and what his QB says about him By Dennis Dodd EL PASO, Texas -- Selected quotes by Mike Price and others on his situation. On being fired at Alabama: No one had my back ... I think the Board of Trustees were really in favor of me. (Athletic director) Mal Moore was wonderful to me. The president said, 'Hey look, this guy is going. If you don't like it get a new president.' On being warned by Alabama officials about his conduct: No one ever called me and said, 'Hey you can't be drinking in public.' They gave me $1,000 a month to buy booze for alumni. That was an expense account. On his conduct at Arety's Angels, the strip club in Pensacola, Fla. The owner of the bar was an Auburn booster of all things. I didn't even get up ... I just sat there at the end of the bar and was a gent -- not a gentleman -- but I wasn't going (yelling) 'Hey, baby, come here.' I just sat there and talked to the bartender. He was the only guy who knew who I was. Did you ever regret taking the Alabama job? That's the easy thing to say, I don't even want to admit that. That's like I said, 'I wish (current Oregon State coach) Mike Riley would have taken that job.' I still think it's a good football job. On perspective: It wasn't the best of times but I've had the best of times with my family and my job. I saw my high school friend, and he's got prostate cancer and my good friend's wife has ovarian cancer. I'm going, 'Holy Cow, I'm feeling sorry for myself? Get real Price.' [...] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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I guess it expired.. Oh well From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/04/28 Wed AM 11:34:10 EDT To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] SUBSCRIBE!! Yur you-r-ell didunt wurk. Leeve sheep all-on! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RollTideFan] SUBSCRIBE!! http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/040428/481/fot10104280803e=1ncid =1756 or http://snipurl.com/60iq kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Washingtons Biggest Crime Problem
Washingtons Biggest Crime Problem http://www.reason.com/0404/fe.wa.washingtons.shtml When Congress creates a federal penalty for actions traditionally prosecuted at the state level, it violates the core constitutional principle of federalism, which prohibits Congress from legislating on local matters. [...] One of the examples in the article might be of intrest to some. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Marsh, Robbins dropped from lawsuit
http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1082634449272350.xml Marsh, Robbins dropped from lawsuit 04/22/04 MIKE PERRIN News staff writer University of Alabama officials Gene Marsh and Marie Robbins have been dismissed from the Ronnie Cottrell-Ivy Williams lawsuit, according to papers filed in Tuscaloosa Circuit Court on Wednesday. Several weeks ago, (Cottrell attorney) Delaine Mountain and I met with our clients and their wives and had an all-day meeting with Gene Marsh and Marie Robbins and their attorney, Tommy Keene, attorney Thomas Gallion said. The meeting started off pretty poorly, but at the end of the day we reached a tentative agreement, after hearing their side of the story. Although there are things they wish they had not done, the overall statements they made were that they were duped and things were misrepresented to them by Mr. (defendant/NCAA investigator Richard) Johanningmeier. After hearing their story, I feel like - although there are some things I would not have done - we're all human and they should not remain in this lawsuit. They did tell the truth and they will tell more of the truth. Marsh and Robbins would not comment on the lawsuit. However, Keene said, My reaction is I think it's wonderful that my clients have been dismissed and that the plaintiffs realized they did nothing wrong. I believe they were deservedly dismissed. In an affidavit accompanying the motion to dismiss, Marsh said that he, as faculty athletics representative, and Robbins, as a compliance officer, were concerned with Cottrell's actions as an assistant coach because he had four secondary violations. While no one secondary violation is a problem, multiple secondary violations can be interpreted by the NCAA as one major violation. A major violation for a repeat offender can be a devastating event. Marsh also said Johanningmeier never informed the university that Tennessee head football coach Phillip Fulmer was involved in the investigation of the Alabama football program. Based on this subsequent information, it appears to me that the NCAA had knowledge about questions concerning Albert Means' recruitment and Harold James' recruitment while these two young student athletes were still in high school, yet never shared that knowledge with the University of Alabama, the affidavit says. Had the NCAA given this information to the University of Alabama, we could have taken appropriate action to prevent any improprieties on the part of the University of Alabama or its boosters and would have prevented their being admitted to school and competing on our football team. Similarly, we were never given any information by the SEC office or SEC Commissioner Roy Kramer about questions concerning the recruitment of Albert Means. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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http://www.cw.ua.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/04/08/4074dd206581b Season belonged to Antoine Pettway From Way Downtown Charlie Gasner April 08, 2004 Antoine Pettway is an autograph machine. These days, he has to be, if he wants half a chance at eating. Most of Alabama's players were able to move around enough to get a soda and a hors d'oeuvre at Tuesday night's Tide Pride/Tuscaloosa Tip-Off Club awards reception. Not Pettway. Chuck Davis had a handful of Sports Illustrated covers to sign, but Pettway was a human Department of Motor Vehicles. Want to talk to the senior point guard? Get in line. Wait. Everyone and their adorable 5-year-old child had something for Pettway to autograph. Basketballs. Pictures. Shoes. The guy was a leaf blower and a ratchet wrench away from putting his signature on one of everything in your dad's garage. You're the best point guard we've had here since T.R. Dunn, said one well-wisher. I'm sure I'll see you here again as Alabama's coach, said another fan. Coach Pettway? There's an interesting idea. I don't know [about coaching], Pettway said. That's sort of stressful. Point taken. Coaching - that's stressful. Tie game at Georgia with three seconds left? That's easy. Down three at Arkansas on the last possession of regulation? Piece of cake. Needing a basket to avoid elimination in the first round of the NCAA Tournament? Cash money. If this dude says he thinks something's stressful, you'd better believe him. Alabama will be able to replace [Pettway] in the first 38 minutes of a game, Alabama assistant coach Tom Asbury said. But in the last couple of minutes ... he's a special guy when the game is on the line. How close did Alabama come to missing the NCAA Tournament? At Georgia, the Bulldogs and Crimson Tide scuffed their way out to 42 points each before Pettway stuck a 3-pointer in the waning seconds of the game. At Arkansas, Pettway hit another 3 to send the game to overtime. At Auburn, Emmett Thomas hit the free throws that put Alabama ahead, but it was Pettway's floater on the previous possession that put Thomas in position to take the lead. How close did Alabama come to a one-and-done NCAA Tournament? With the game almost over and the shot clock off, Pettway took the ball into the lane, sidestepped a few Southern Illinois defenders and threw up a teardrop six-footer that kept the season going. It'll go down in history as Alabama's first Elite Eight run. But without Pettway, it's probably a field-of-65 run. Or an NIT run. So on one hand, Alabama only loses one starter this year. On the other, he just happens to be the heart of the team. There's no replacing Antoine, Davis said. He's done so much. Our guys have to step up and take command of the team like he's done these past four years. Pettway's time in a Crimson Tide uniform is up. After four years in college, he's graduating with a degree in health care management in May. But if he has it his way, he won't be putting that degree to use anytime soon. I'll weigh my options, Pettway said. I want to play professionally. What kind of professional league would pick up a basketball player who's listed very generously at 6 feet tall, an outside shooter whose 3-point shot looks like a gymnastics routine, and a point guard who doesn't throw flashy behind-the-back passes or slam highlight-reel dunks? The NBA, I hope, Pettway said. So what if Pettway's name doesn't pop up on the mock drafts? No one thought he could play college ball, either. Alabama coach Mark Gottfried only discovered Pettway when he went to check out another player. He didn't have a scholarship for Pettway, but Pettway walked on for a year and earned a scholarship anyway. He made a choice to come to Alabama and was determined to prove to our staff and everybody that he belonged there, Gottfried said. And he quickly did that. He isn't flashy, but he's as steady as they come - he averaged just 1.5 turnovers in 33 minutes per game this year. His assist-to-turnover ratio was the best in the SEC. His 3-point shot won't win any awards for form, but basketball players aren't scored on form. All that matters is he hit 39.1 percent of those trifectas in the past four years, good for sixth on the school's all-time list. He's probably closer to 5 feet 10 inches than 6 feet tall, but it's not as if he'll be asked to guard Yao Ming. After an NCAA Tournament win, Gottfried called Pettway The Little Engine That Could. Pettway still thinks he can. Would you bet against him? Charlie Gasner is sports editor of The Crimson White. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Alabamas expanded Football Building
http://mb7.theinsiders.com/falabamafans48326frm1.showMessage?topicID=52919.topic Alabamas expanded Football Building ordinarily is locked up tighter than Fort Knox, but at 6:30 p.m. CDT Thursday the doors are going to be opened to members of the Tuscaloosa County Chapter of The University of Alabama National Alumni Association. Director of Football Operations Randy Ross will be on hand to show visitors the new Recruiting and Weightroom facilities. Admission is free for active members of the Tuscaloosa County alumni chapter. Those who are not members may join at the door ($20 membership or $30 Scholarship Partner) or pay a $5 visitors fee. (You do not have to be an alumnus of The University in order to be a member of the alumni association.) Snacks and drinks are included. For more information contact Lynn McColl at the Alumni Office, (205) 348-5963. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] sig test
blah blah blah blah kurt Fire the panty waisted little faggot and hire someone with a set of balls. John R. Wodziak 2004 __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/special3/article.adp?id=20040401110809990010 kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] ***finebaum alert**
http://www.al.com/sports/mobileregister/pfinebaum.ssf?/base/sports/108099632984300.xml Mission to save Shula impossible 04/03/04 From time to time, I dabble in another life as a secret agent. The following happened to me earlier this week. I went to the airport, retrieved a small tape and folder out of a locker, found an available room near the airline's private lounges and played the following audio: Good morning, Mr. Finebaum. Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to help save and rehabilitate this man's career. The person in question is Mike Shula, the 38-year-old head football coach at the University of Alabama. Until recently, he was living a reasonably charmed life. That has changed. Although he had a miserable football season -- the Alabama record was 4-9 including losses to Northern Illinois and Hawaii -- he had a strong recruiting class. Things were going along swimmingly until it was reported that he had changed the name of a little-known spring football award which honored commitment to excellence. It had been named after Sylvester Croom, who played at Alabama and was runner-up to Shula last spring for the head coaching position. However, since Croom ultimately was chosen at Mississippi State, Shula decided to change the name of the award. The rationale, according to Minister of Information Larry White, was Shula didn't feel it was appropriate to honor a rival coach in the same conference even though the Bulldogs were 2-10 in 2003, lost to the Tide 38-0, have finished last in the SEC West three consecutive years (combined conference record during this time is 3-21) and are likely to get slammed by the NCAA. Currently, Shula is on a cruise ship (good timing) in the Caribbean -- I think the name of the ocean liner is called the Tide-tanic. While Shula is out to sea, the reaction back on the mainland toward him has been that he missed the boat. In addition to being a great player at Alabama, Croom also coached for Bear Bryant and Ray Perkins and his late father was the team chaplain for both men. Mr. Finebaum, your mission is to undo the damage created by Shula. The general opinion is the move by Shula looks petty, childish, mean-spirited, cheesy, insecure, bone-headed and just plain stupid. And these are some of the positive things being said. What you need to do is come up with a solution and do so before his ship reaches shore later in the weekend. There are several options laid out here for your examination. One option is to have Shula say it was all a misunderstanding. Perhaps, even say it was an April Fool's joke that went askew. OK, forget that one. Do what the politicians do and blame it on one of his minions or an assistant coach -- either Joe Kines or Dave Radar. Humiliate them publicly and after they personally apologize to coach Croom, fire them from your staff. Immediately restore the name back to the award. End of story. This is what we call addition by subtraction. Another option is to ignore the whole thing. After all, it's only a spring football award that outside of a few players, the average fan has never heard of. Remind people of Alabama's great football tradition -- 12 national championships, etc. Talk about the class this program exudes. It would only become an issue if Mississippi State were to somehow upset Alabama Nov. 6 in Tuscaloosa and there is absolutely no chance of that happening -- on second thought, scratch that plan. Option three is to tell the former players who -- along with the news media -- are doing most of the whining to shut up and stick it. Threaten the media's press passes this year (with some great home games including Utah State, Ole Miss, Western Carolina, Southern Miss) and say anyone else who raises this issue will no longer get the free cold hot dogs and warm cold drinks in the press box. Honestly, there really aren't any good options. They don't call this unit MI (Mission Impossible) because we're in charge of changing light bulbs. Make the best of it. Improvise if you must and only take the doomsday approach -- in other words, retain the services of Tommy Gallion -- if your life depends on it. As always, should you or any member of your team be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This tape will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck. You'll need it! (Paul Finebaum's column appears Tuesdays and Saturdays in the Mobile Register. Contact him at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Croom Reacts to Alabama Award Name Change
http://mississippistate.theinsiders.com/2/248456.html Croom Reacts to Alabama Award Name Change By Gene Swindoll Date: Apr 1, 2004 Coach Croom talked extensively to the media about Alabama head football coach Mike Shula changing the name of the Alabama spring football award named after him. What is your reaction to Alabama's Mike Shula taking your name off the Alabama spring football award? I want to make it perfectly clear that I have no animosity toward Coach (Mike) Shula. (However) to say I was not disappointed would be lying. Otherwise, if I had known about it previously, I would probably not have even answered the question. But, to answer it honestly, I was disappointed. But, that is the head coach's prerogative. Now that I have gotten over my initial shock of it, we move on. The reality of it is the name of awards change year in and year out. I understand that. The important thing to me is that what the University of Alabama meant to me will always mean that to me. The important thing is the guys that I played with, the guys that I played against, they know how I played the game and how much I cared about them. And I feel they cared about me the same way. And they know how much pride I took in wearing that uniform. Nothing will ever change that. How did you find out about the decision? When I was asked a question out here at practice Tuesday evening. The award was named after you the player, not the coach. The spring awards, even though the the public wasn't award of them, have always meant a great deal to all the players. I remember when I was playing they had the Billy Nabors Most Improved Offensive Lineman Award. I wanted it every spring because it was named after a great player there. To get any kind of recognition from Coach Bryant and his staff meant a great deal to us as players. I idolized those guys when I was there. To have an award like that named after me, yeah, it meant a great deal to me. It means that the efforts that I put in trying to be a team player in what I contributed there was noticed by the coaching staff and the other people that were involved in putting my name on that. It meant a lot to me when I was playing and means a lot to me now. The greatest honor that I have gotten or will even get was being voted captain my senior year. Nothing can ever surpass that for me, because it came from the players and the men that I played with. Don't you wish they had given you a courteous heads up? I would have liked to have known because I would have had a better answer to that question when he came to me (laugh). We could have avoided all of this (laugh). Have you spoken to any of the Alabama people since this has happened? I have talked to some people. I had a call today from Mal Moore at about the middle of the day. He called to say that they had changed some awards. He and I talked about it. Just like I told you, when I was asked the question, I was caught off guard. To have answered it any other way would have been an out and out lie. I had to answer the question as truthful as I possibly could. Why do you think they removed your name from the award? The only thing that I have heard is that they felt like it was not good having an award named after an opposing head coach. My feeling is the award was named after a former player, not after an opposing head coach. Gene Swindoll is the owner of Gene's Page, the unofficial source for Mississippi State sports on the internet. The URL for Gene's Page is http://mississippistate.theinsiders.com. You can contact him by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] advances in automobile technology
http:/www.mplayer74.com/movies/KA1.mpg http:/www.mplayer74.com/movies/KA2.mpg NSFCOBL (not safe for cat or bird lovers) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Young's name still on Bryant center room
http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports/1080814729305831.xml Young's name still on Bryant center room 04/01/04 Disassociated University of Alabama booster Logan Young still has a room named after him at the university's Bryant Conference Center. Young was one of three UA boosters disassociated from the university as part of the NCAA sanctions in February of 2002. UA Athletics Director Mal Moore said the room was named for Young long before the sanctions were placed on the university. To be truthful, I know there is a room named after Logan but it was done way back, Moore said. That has no effect on the NCAA ruling. His disassociation was from that point forward. Young is not allowed to contribute money to the university and the Tide Pride program or buy season tickets from the university. Moore said he was not sure how much Young contributed during the building of the facility but believes it was right at the end of Coach (Paul) Bryant's career when he made that contribution. Bryant retired after the 1982 season. The room is one of several small conference rooms at the Bryant Conference Center. The center is a division of the UA's College of Continuing Studies. Steve Irvine -- __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] ROLL DAMN BOUNCEYBALL TIDE!!
I LOVE BAMA!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] according to Daniel..
Make Them Eat Their Words March 24, 2004 So here we are. Weve just beaten a number one seed. A team that was near perfect during the regular season. A team that only lost one game all year before they met us. A team that everyone feared and called unbeatable. Weve defied the odds and weve known all along that we are capable of overcoming anyone in college basketball. Yet, the judges arent impressed. Instead of treating us with a little more respect, what do they do? They overlook us. Same old, same old. Its nothing new. What a great matchup Syracuse and UConn will make in the Elite Eight! Thats what weve heard all week. So what is it we have to do in order to prove to the entire nation that we are for real? Keep on winning. Let em talk about Syracuse. Let em. All those who want to overlook us, go right ahead. If we keep winning, nobody will care who said what. I recall a large amount of people saying we had NO CHANCE against Stanford. So the questioning, its nothing new to us. Ive also heard time and time again this week from big-name college basketball analysts including Dick Vitale and Digger Phelps that Alabama is a weak 3-point shooting team and Cuses zone defense would slaughter us what?! You know what, dont even say anything. Just let them talk all they want, and if they want to doubt the rising Tide, be my guest. This team knows what were about. We know after beating a team like Stanford, an unbeatable team, we can compete with ANYBODY, including the defending national champs. Its now just a matter of showing everyone that we can do it. Last weeks win vs. Stanford was huge, but it is important what we do with it. We need to build off of that win with a solid performance Thursday night against the Orangemen. Weve beaten the unbeatable, so from here on out, no excuses. Just play. And let them doubt us all they want. All that matters is the end result. Lets go out and prove them wrong. Make them eat their words. -Daniel Rasmussen March 24, 2004 __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Pettway got some new red shoes
I kinda like the way the ones he's been wearing have been working. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] If at first you don't succeed
http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1080036993165631.xml Price's suit says UA's Witt would fire him or quit 03/23/04 MIKE BOLTON News staff writer University of Alabama President Robert Witt used the threat of his resignation to intimidate the UA System Board of Trustees into supporting his intention to fire head football coach Mike Price, a new lawsuit filed by Price alleges. The lawsuit, filed Monday in Tuscaloosa County Circuit Court, names Witt as the sole defendant and accuses him of fraud and misrepresentation in firing Price in May. The lawsuit, which asks for no specific amount of damages, claims Witt acted outside of his capacity as university president. A judge last year dismissed an earlier lawsuit filed by Price that alleged UA and Witt, in his official capacity, illegally fired Price. An appeal of that dismissal is before the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. Price was fired after allegations surfaced of his visiting a strip club and drinking heavily in Pensacola while attending a golf tournament in April. Price's attorney, Steve Heninger, said he had met with counsel for Witt to try to settle the case out of court, but Witt's attorneys refused. Witt attorney Stan Starnes said in a written statement Monday that the new lawsuit has no merit. He also noted the dismissal of the previous lawsuit. We regret that Mike Price refuses to accept responsibility for his admitted misbehavior and poor judgment in Pensacola last year. One would think that he would want to move on and focus on his new head coaching job. Instead, he has chosen to pursue another lawsuit which will result in nothing more than continued attention for his embarrassing conduct last April. Price, who is currently head football coach at the University of Texas-El Paso, also has a pending libel lawsuit against Sports Illustrated for an article detailing his actions in Pensacola. Price's new suit against Witt claims that when Witt realized he did not have the support of Athletics Director Mal Moore or a consensus of the board to fire Price, he resorted to intimidation by saying he would resign if he didn't get support. That intimidation, the suit claims, put Witt outside the scope of his employment. The suit claims Witt walked into a meeting with the board on the day Price was fired with instructions that the board would either support him in his firing of Price or he would submit his own resignation. The suit also claims Witt showed UA board members a presentation depicting Price dressed as a pimp, which maliciously showed Price in a false light. `Priceless' parody: The parody of a television commercial for MasterCard showed Price with two women as escorts and showed a price tag of $350. The parody, a copy of which was turned over to Heninger by university counsel, read: Failing to give a tip for services then having your business credit card stolen after breakfast by hookers who run up an enormous tab: Priceless. The lawsuit claims that depiction was a knowing misrepresentation of the facts of the Pensacola trip. Heninger acknowledged in an interview that Witt may have presented the parody to board members as an example of material circulating on the Internet and how the university's image was being damaged. Starnes said the material was shown to document the negative publicity generated by Coach Price's exceptionally bad judgment. The suit also claims Witt refused to allow Price to tell his side of the story to the media or the board of trustees, and that he was fired without the board ever hearing the truth. Starnes said Witt fired Price based on Price's own admitted conduct in Pensacola. Mike Price's latest lawsuit merely reinforces the correctness of Dr. Witt's decision, Starnes said. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Sylvester Croom Commitment to Excellence Award
Is no more. Then: http://www.mstateathletics.com/0,5604,1_27_0_48531,00.html He (Croom) was so respected by the Alabama coaching staff for his devotion to the game of football that the program each spring awards the Sylvester Croom Commitment to Excellence Award. [...] Now: http://www.rolltide.com/Football/10158.asp SPRING AWARD WINNERS: Bart Starr Commitment to Excellence: DeMeco Ryans kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Re-seeding the brackets.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/7197386 No. 2 Alabama: Let's be honest: Not one Alabama player would crack Stanford's starting lineup. [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Bama and the 'Cuse
http://www.ncaasports.com/basketball/mens/scoreboard/madness/20040325 9:40 EST Thursday kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] The dream lives for Antoine Pettway
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/collegesports/2001883746_alabama20.html The dream lives for Antoine Pettway By Les Carpenter Seattle Times staff reporter Sherry Brooks tried to be nice, but she had a CPR class to teach after all. And one of her students at the Montgomery, Ala., Red Cross Center kept pleading with her to pull the instructional tapes from the television on Thursday afternoon just so he could watch a basketball game? Well, he would just have to wait. My son is playing in that game, said Joseph Pettway Jr. So Brooks rearranged her breaks, giving Pettway two chances to watch the grainy images flickering from across the country. The first time, Antoine Pettway's Alabama was beating Southern Illinois by nearly 10 points. The next time, his son was being mobbed by his teammates, the game was just over, the announcers were saying ... and Alabama moves on to play Stanford. Well, he must have done it again, Joseph said. Forgive Sherry Brooks if she didn't know the story of Antoine Pettway and a dream. How could she possibly understand that the son of the man in her CPR class longed to play basketball at Alabama so much that his father pulled all his money together and paid for a year of college just so his child could walk on the basketball team? Then not only did Antoine make the team, he became its starting point guard, the leader. The one who kept making the most amazing shots, like the last-second basket to win the SEC championship and the three-pointer that beat Georgia. And don't forget the three that sent the game at Arkansas into overtime. And on Thursday afternoon Antoine Pettway, in his senior year, did it again. He did it with the shot Joseph had taught him a running one-hander that just floated over two Southern Illinois defenders. They used to call it the runner. You're a little guy, and if you go inside with the big men, you've got to be able to put a shot over them, Joseph always said. Thursday, his son delivered the NCAA tournament's first fantastic finish as Alabama won 65-64, and Joseph Pettway saw none of it because for once he was thinking ahead. He's the basketball coach and an assistant principal at Keith High School in Orrville, Ala., and the state is demanding that all the teachers become CPR certified by next year. Since coaches are always doing things at the last minute, Joseph thought he would take a training course. This way, he could come back to school and certify other coaches himself. He never figured the classes would conflict with the NCAA tournament. But there he was, Thursday, in the third of four training sessions, watching while Brooks showed them the right way to tip back a head and open breathing passages. He was going to bring a radio with a little earpiece so he could at least listen to the game, but he only had a pair of giant headphones. And he didn't think Brooks would think too kindly of a student sitting in her class wearing a pair of giant headphones. Instead, he suffered. After the game Thursday, Antoine was asked to name the person who had the biggest influence in his life. My father, he replied. Joseph did everything for the boy. At age 12, Antoine came to live with his father, a one-time junior college basketball player who later graduated from Alabama with a degree in physical education. From the beginning, Joseph could see his son loved the game, shooting baskets for hours on the empty courts. At night, they would stay up for hours at night talking nothing but basketball. When Antoine went to high school, he played for Joseph, first at Keith, then later at Wilcox Central in nearby Alberta when Joseph took the coaching job there. Antoine, despite being just 6 feet, was good and colleges noticed. Jacksonville State, Louisiana Tech, Alabama State and Alabama AM all offered scholarships. But he wanted Alabama, even if Alabama barely knew he existed. By the time Tide coach Mark Gottfried saw him in a state tournament, Alabama had already filled its scholarships. You can walk on, Gottfried said, leaving open the chance Antoine could get a full ride the next year. His father frowned. It seemed like such a longshot. Antoine had guarantees from the other schools. Maybe he should take one of those. Then he saw the hope on his child's face. Sometimes when you get older you forget about the dreams you had, he said. Sometimes it takes a 17-year-old to remind you of your dreams. Joseph pulled out his checkbook, and the rest is Alabama history. Those coaches, they measure recruits with tape measures too much, and they never measure the one thing that matters most their heart, Joseph Pettway said. Finally they measured Antoine Pettway's. The dream lives for one more day. Les Carpenter: 206-464-2280 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To
[RollTideFan] Lots O' BAMA News today!
http://www.ladyinred.net/news ROLL TIDE MY BAMA PLAS!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] WHOOPTH!!1!~ (non)
http://www.trueaggies.com/photos/3-17-04Game/CheerFlying2.html kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] no radio, no tv
Iyam only seeing the score updates on yahoo.com Am I missing anything important? ROLL BASKETBALL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] AtM makes ESPN front page!
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1760899 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Rolling along
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/mike_fish/03/16/alabama.spring/ Rolling along Shula enjoying Crimson Tide's strangely quiet offseason You wonder why some of the fine football coaches, particularly at Alabama, can't get their seasons right. Mike Shula Co. got a jump on March Madness that would make Dickie V proud, kicking off spring practice in the midst of winter -- Feb. 21, to be precise. No one is alleging any monkey business with the rules, a welcome relief for Alabama. Shula is just cramming in the allotted 15 days of drills before the start of spring break. Give him credit for holding off until Saturday, the official arrival of spring, to close out drills with the annual A-Day game. If this is as controversial as Shula gets, folks in most precincts would be willing line up to elect him governor. The Bama faithful are dying for a good ol' boring coach. They're tired of the NCAA gumshoes lurking around Tuscaloosa. They're tired of the lawsuits and headline-grabbing attorneys. Tired of coaches acting like frat boys. Since Paul Bear'' Bryant's last season in 1982, Alabama is on its seventh head coach. The only one fully embraced, Gene Stallings, won a national championship but also steered the program onto its first NCAA probation. And when you're on a third coach in 15 months, it might explain why your storied program seems to be hyperventilating. So this spring practice, his first since being hired last May, Shula is bent on calming things down. The offense and defense installed on the run before last season are being honed in a relaxed setting. No fresh wrinkles. The coaching staff is on the field intact, with the exception of the hiring of strength and conditioning coach Kent Johnston. Miami transfer Marc Gullion is getting a chance to shine while starter Brodie Croyle remains limited following offseason shoulder surgery, but there's no suggestion of a quarterback controversy. Shula is more concerned with overall depth coming off a 4-9 season. Because of sanctions, Alabama won't have the full complement of 85 scholarships until the 2005 season. So Shula talks of possibly playing 10 true freshmen this fall, double the number from last season, which speaks to the quality of his first recruiting class and the lack of depth. It's important to bring some continuity whether it's the NFL or college football, but probably so much more here at Alabama because of what has happened,'' said Shula, the youngest of Hall of Fame coach Don's offspring. Just to have everyone catch their breath is nice. We talked to our players after the last game last year, talking about what has gone on in their lives and how much change there has been in the last 365 days. I told them, 'We want to make it awful boring around here compared to what you have been used to.' If you follow Alabama football, the program has long been embroiled in a juicy soap opera, or so it seems. The latest episode began with Dennis Franchione's flight for Texas AM after the 2002 season, frustrated by NCAA sanctions leftover from the Mike DuBose era. Mike Price was lured from Washington State but never coached a down. Price was run off last May for embarrassing the university by allegedly cavorting with dancers at a Florida strip joint. Granted, some have argued it was a reach hiring Shula, who had no head coaching experience. Then again, this was a job that cried out for an Alabama guy, a straight-laced soother. He fit the bill much like Butch Davis did at the University of Miami, where he took over sans head coaching experience as the NCAA was slapping the program around. The comparison is not lost on Shula, who kept track of the Miami program while an NFL assistant. Davis and Shula's older brother David both coached on Jimmy Johnson's staff in Dallas. If the Miami example holds true, Shula won't be an overnight miracle worker. It likely will take three or four years before the depth and talent level is rebuilt. As Larry Coker well knows, Davis bolted for the NFL before Miami played again for another national title. Shula can take solace in the NCAA's recent decision not to levy additional sanctions against Alabama, based on unresolved lawsuits that are floating around. If the natives stay patient, the 38-year-old may hang around long enough to bring the stability lacking since Bryant stepped aside. When I was considering this job and talking to my wife [Shari],'' Shula recalled, one of the things we talked about was, 'You don't go to Alabama for a stepping stone. You go there and plan on being there.' I said, 'Now, if we go, we're going to go.' And she was all gung-ho. That is how we feel about this place. None of us can predict the future or what is going to happen, but this feels like home.'' At least for now. Mike Fish is a senior writer for SI.com. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Bama made the big dance..
From: Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, Kurt...your aggies got snubbed and was sent to the NIT. HTH HAND :) Lawdy feel the luv!! :) kurt bitter __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Round one/two tip times
http://www.sportsline.com/cbssports/news/031504tiptimes THURSDAY AFTERNOON, MARCH 18 (Noon-5:00 p.m., ET) 2:40 p.m.Seattle Alabama vs. S. IllinoisIan Eagle/Jim Spanarkel/Greg Kelser Jim Rikhoff//Andy Goldberg kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] ROLL DAMN BOUNCEYBALL TIDE!!
I hate Tebnnessee and so should you! ($1) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] FULMER'S RECORDS SUBJECT TO SUBPOENA
http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ID=2853onthefly=1 FULMER'S RECORDS SUBJECT TO SUBPOENA Judge grants right to Logan Young's legal team. JOHN BRANSTON A federal judge has granted football booster Logan Young the right to subpoena materials from University of Tennessee football coach Philip Fulmer and the NCAA about the NCAA investigation of Young. U.S. Magistrate Judge Diane Vescovo denied the governments request to keep the materials from Young and his attorneys. Young, a wealthy Memphis businessman, faces trial May 3rd on charges of conspiracy and hiding bank withdrawals the government believes were used to pay $150,000 to former high school football coach Lynn Lang to send star lineman Albert Means to Alabama. Fulmer and the NCAA have until April 2nd to produce the materials. Youngs attorneys believe the governments case closely tracks the NCAA investigation of Young and the Alabama football program. The materials focus on interviews with Tom Culpepper, an Alabama booster who may be called as a witness by the government. Fulmer secretly taped 90 minutes of a meeting he had with Culpepper. Fulmers role as a confidential source for the NCAA against Alabama came out earlier this year. The defense has indicated it may call Fulmer as a witness and needs his notes and tapes to refresh his recollection, according to court filings. The NCAA materials include records of at least six meetings with Langs assistant, Milton Kirk, according to court papers. Lang and Kirk have pleaded guilty. Lang has not been sentenced and is expected to testify at Youngs trial for the government. Fulmer and the NCAA are not parties to the case. Date created: 3/5/2004 __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] When the cheering stopped
http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/1078568103242191.xml When the cheering stopped 03/06/04 By MIKE MARSHALL Times Staff Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kenneth Smith reflects on ex-football star son, Vols-Tide bitterness SOUTH PITTSBURG, Tenn. - In the den of his concrete-block house on a hill, serenaded by the Jack Russell terrier yapping in the kitchen, Kenneth Smith slides the highlight tape into his videocassette recorder. The tape is a collection of 10-year-old clips made in high school football stadiums in North Alabama and southern Middle Tennessee. The star is a 6-foot-7 kid wearing a black-and-white uniform and a flattop haircut. On these fields, Kenneth Smith's eldest child and only son, Kenny, became one of the most coveted football recruits ever in Alabama's Jackson County. At his peak, Kenny Smith weighed 285 pounds and ran fast enough to chase down running backs half his size. He was a free spirit who devoted much of his high school summers to eating Big Bubba burgers at the Dairy Bar and jumping off the Stevenson Bridge, a 55-foot drop into the Tennessee River. In his more serious moments, he dreamed of playing tight end or defensive end in the National Football League. His father's highlight tape and a scrapbook are all that's left of Kenny Smith's stardom at North Jackson High in Stevenson. His football career essentially ended at the University of Tennessee, one of two major colleges he signed with after high school. In September 1998, weeks before his 22nd birthday, Kenny Smith quit the Tennessee football team. With a bad shoulder and a bad taste for Southeastern Conference football, he returned to his family's home on Hamilton Avenue in South Pittsburg. He considered playing at the University of Tennessee in Chattanooga, but enrolled at Delta State University in Mississippi, a member of the NCAA's Division II. After two semesters there, he left without ever putting on a uniform again. But Kenny Smith's playing career was resurrected during the NCAA's recent investigation of the University of Alabama football program. Alabama's recruitment of Smith and at least two other prospects led to five years of probation and two years of sanctions, including bowl bans and scholarship reductions. [...] long article. Click on link. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] hmmm...
http://alabama.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=878mid=32249074sid=tid=32249074style=1 Some notable members of the UA BOT are hopping mad right now... The more that comes out of Memphis...the more it smacks of a NCAAzi railroad job. If the LY case is thrown out ( I'm hearing it will be less than a month)and the Phaatz / Culpepper tape has truly vanished ( the Culpepper tape was considered as corroborating evidence)... The NCAA case on major infractions will then be completedly without merit. In that event, pressure will be placed on Dr. Witt to demand reparations from the NCAAzi's (and SEC)... otherwise all Hell will break loose (aka Robert Cunningham's return to Indianapolis , Congressional hearing). A proposed settlement would be ending the probation period on time served, immediate return to 85 grants by compensation of 12 additional scholarships (maybe 6 additional JC's over each of next 2 years) and immediate release of all bowl and TV revenue sharing from the SEC(currently withheld for 2 more years). They do this and UA agrees not to pursue other legal remedies for loss of revenue ($50 Mil). My source hasn't been wrong yetI don't think he will be this time either. RTR This post was edited on 3/6 2:38 AM __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] (NON) More Penguin
http://penguin.omnihosts.net/ kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] How many points is a 3-pointer worth?
http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports-3/1078412952276920.xml?aponline Ga. coach's class deemed too easy By LORI JOHNSTON The Associated Press 3/4/2004, 9:03 a.m. CT ATHENS, Ga. (AP) -- Talk about a slam dunk. Most college students dream of getting a final exam with questions such as: How many points is a 3-pointer worth? That was among the questions on basic basketball knowledge on the final exam and only test in Georgia assistant basketball coach Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of Basketball class in 2001. The 20-question test and transcripts of interviews with some of the students in Harrick's class were among 1,500 pages of documents released Wednesday by the university in its response to the NCAA about rules violations in the basketball program. The university agreed with the NCAA's findings, which included violations of academic fraud and improper benefits. Harrick's father, Jim Sr., was suspended, then resigned as coach. The younger Harrick lost his job as an assistant, and the school kept the team out of the Southeastern Conference and NCAA tournaments. The NCAA concluded Harrick Jr. fraudulently awarded grades of A to three men's basketball student-athletes enrolled in the course he taught in 2001, allowing them to miss class and tests. Harrick Jr. also allegedly provided an extra benefit to student athletes by the manner in which he conducted the course, the NCAA found. An attorney for the Harricks said Wednesday that Harrick Jr. would not comment. A federal lawsuit filed last week accuses university officials and others of defamation. The names of Harrick's students who were interviewed were blacked out in the papers. All the students in the class were given an A grade, according to the documents. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Marge Schott .... tits up
http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/4430247/ BREAKING NEWS The Associated Press Updated: 3:17 p.m. ET March 02, 2004 CINCINNATI - Marge Schott, the tough-talking, chain-smoking owner of the Cincinnati Reds who won a World Series but was repeatedly suspended for offensive remarks, died Tuesday, a hospital spokeswoman said. She was 75. [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] (no subject)
http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports/1077877308315970.xml Affidavit: Analyst wanted revenge 02/27/04 DOUG SEGREST News staff writer An affidavit taken in a defamation and libel case against the NCAA alleges a recruiting analyst conspired to damage the Alabama football program out of vengeance. The affidavit is part of pre-trial discovery by attorney Thomas Gallion, who represents former Crimson Tide assistant coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams in a civil suit against the NCAA. The source of the affidavit, Clark Charles Branch, is a former work associate of Tom Culpepper, a local recruiting analyst. Culpepper was identified in court documents as a secret witness in the NCAA's investigation of Crimson Tide recruiting. That investigation landed Alabama on probation in 2002 and cost the school 21 scholarships and two potential postseason appearances. In the affidavit, Branch said Culpepper expressed contempt for former Alabama recruiting coordinator Cottrell and Memphis booster Logan Young. Culpepper blamed Young's influence for the loss of his job as a television analyst for a now-defunct Birmingham-based cable sports station. Branch said that on at least six occasions in 2001, he heard Culpepper say I'll do whatever it takes to see Cottrell and Young fall as a result of the NCAA investigation. The affidavit said Culpepper worked in concert with Rich Johanningmeier, the NCAA enforcement representative who investigated Alabama. At one point, Culpepper told Branch he and Johanningmeier were worried that the case against Alabama would unravel unless someone went on the record. Branch said Culpepper claimed he encouraged Memphis high school coach Milton Kirk to go public with allegations of wrongdoing against Alabama. Kirk was an assistant coach during Alabama's recruitment of Memphis blue-chip prospect Albert Means, a player the NCAA said signed with Alabama only after Young paid $115,000. Branch said he believed Culpepper had inside information from the NCAA because he accurately predicted Alabama would be punished severely by the NCAA even before the case reached its conclusion. Culpepper, a Shelby County resident, said Thursday that he could not respond to the allegations due to a standing protective order barring comment in the suit brought against the NCAA by Cottrell and Williams. Culpepper is included as a defendant in the suit. Both Cottrell and Williams claim they have not been able to get Division I-A jobs since leaving Alabama because of the damage inflicted on them by the NCAA's investigation. A recent published transcript of Alabama's appearance before the NCAA Committee on Infractions showed both Cottrell and Williams were discussed at the November 2001 hearing. NCAA spokesman Wally Renfro said he would not rehash the transcript. But Renfro, who serves as NCAA President Myles Brand's senior adviser, said the NCAA's treatment of the two coaches is obvious in the transcript. Ivy Williams wasn't alluded to in terms of any allegations, Renfro said. All but one of the allegations against Ronnie Cot trell were self-reported by the institution, not the NCAA, and were ones he acknowledged. Renfro noted that an NCAA charge of unethical behavior against Cottrell was argued and eventually dismissed. I think you can make a strong argument that publishing the transcript does far more damage to their (Cottrell and Williams') case than ours, Renfro said. Renfro will represent the NCAA in a panel discussion Sunday morning when ESPN broadcasts an Outside the Lines episode that explores the rift between Alabama and Tennessee over the NCAA investigation. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] (non) He shoulda listened to Slef..
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Re: Re: [RollTideFan] F-150s and other thots (non)
From: Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] That definitely defines a bad day, brother. I think I'd take out a loan and forget the damb insurance deal. That way your neighbor doesn't have a claim filed against his policy. If there's one chance he's gonna have to do _anything_ with his insurance, I'll outright pay to get the other fellers truck fixed. I'm quite leary about what what my insurance company is telling me. I ain't taking their word for nothing. I've got a little bit of homework do do. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] BAMA hoops audio
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Re: Re: [RollTideFan] In 1989..
From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dood! The RTF fambily needs to send you to a RODE GAME! Roll Basketball Tide!! SUBSCRIBE!! Did you make it to the Shrine? Nope. That'll have to come another day. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Jobu
From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYIToday, February 13th, is the one year anniversary of having to put my cat down. He was 14 years old. Did ya get another one yet? I can deliver if the need is there. gifs available on request. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Student section to expand by 872
This story was printed from www.cw.ua.edu. Site URL: http://www.cw.ua.edu. Student section to expand by 872 By Caitlin Tudzin Senior Staff Reporter February 12, 2004 In an effort to keep up with the growing student population, UA officials have added 872 seats to the student section at Bryant-Denny Stadium. The current number of seats offered to students is 11,287, which was the amount designated for the section in 1998. The entire south end zone will now be reserved for students. Athletics director Mal Moore said requests from students who were unable to get tickets, as well as the projected increase in student population, led the athletics department to designate more student seating. We anticipate 1,000 to 1,500 more students next year, he said. That and the demand of students already here led us to decide we wanted more students to have the opportunity to get tickets. Moore said he does not believe ticket prices will go up from $5 at this time, though it is a possibility that it could happen someday. He said the 872 seats will be student-designated until the stadium is expanded in a couple of years, a move Moore predicts will add about 7,000 to 10,000 seats. I'm pleased and thrilled the student body is growing and pleased that we get great support from our students because that's so important, he said. SGA President Katie Boyd said several students came to her to voice their concerns about the effect a growing population would have on football ticket availability. Boyd said since the stadium already seems crowded in the student section, it only made sense to increase the amount of space designated for students. There are 20,333 students on campus, and many times we have students' guests, she said. It's always packed and after Aug. 1, some students even get turned away from buying tickets. Boyd said as long as the demand remains for these seats, they will continue to be blocked off for students. She said the placement of the new student section is great because it places fans closer to the game. I think the neatest thing is that it's the front section across the end zone, right where the football players run out, she said. Boyd said Moore and Rhoda Vaughn, director of the athletics ticket office, were both helpful in reaching student demands and putting into place a plan for the new seating arrangement. Boyd said the next step is to make sure seating increases as enrollment increases. Now we will work on getting a plan in place so that in the future the number of seats available to students will grow with attendance, she said. Bryan Grimes, a sophomore finance major, said he thinks it is great the University is making more room for students, since the section is already cramped. It will be a good thing that there's more seats and tickets, because it will get more people out to the games, he said. I knew people who couldn't get student tickets last year, and tickets in other sections are too expensive. Emily Burgio, a sophomore nursing major, said she agrees the addition is definitely a good thing for students. Games are so crowded, you have to get there two to three hours before it starts to even be able to see something, she said. Right now, the student section is definitely too crowded. Burgio said she thinks the amount of seats sounds good right now, but she added that taking too many seats away from other sections will take away seats from sections with pricier tickets, resulting in less money for the University. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Brandon Avalos
I've seen numerous comments (mostly on message boards) over the past few months making a reference to Brandon Avalos wearing make up. What's that all about? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Brandon Avalos
Somewhere along the way I musta missed that whole story. Or either forgot. Real live war paint? Sheesh.. kurt From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/02/11 Wed AM 10:58:44 EST To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Brandon Avalos Maybe they're referring to all the war-paint he wore on gameday. Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:43 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Brandon Avalos I've seen numerous comments (mostly on message boards) over the past few months making a reference to Brandon Avalos wearing make up. What's that all about? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Deere VO Sleffie
I've tole this sorty beef or I think. Years ago on the TV show 'Password' there was a black lady who was trying to guess the password. The celebrity on the show knew the password was Deer. So he/she (I donut recall the gender) gave the contestant a clue. The celebrity looked at the word and thought... After much consideration he/she said Doe The black lady immediately said KNOB! heh... kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] The _real_ culprit!_
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/antisite/phatlockjanetjackson.jpg kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Iyam going to a BAMA bouncyball game!!
WHOOP!!! First ever. ROLL TIDE! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Iyam going to a BAMA bouncyball game!!
Tin a fsckin see.. 2/14/04 kurt I HATE TENNESSEE AND SO SHOULD EWE! From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/02/05 Thu PM 09:21:50 EST To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Iyam going to a BAMA bouncyball game!! Witch won? Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Iyam going to a BAMA bouncyball game!! WHOOP!!! First ever. ROLL TIDE! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] In my inbox this morning
was an offer for a free t-shirt. I ordered it!!! http://www.rolltidefan.net/Attachments/tshirt.jpg WHOOP!!1!~ kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Lavarus Giles article
http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0402/04/vum01.html (click on the letter for a larger view) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Deer NCAA
Ray Keller sez Hi! http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports/1075718829304281.xml Ex-UA booster files suit, says NCAA defamed him 02/02/04 DOUG SEGREST News staff writer Former University of Alabama booster Ray Keller has filed a defamation suit against the NCAA seeking unspecified damages. Attorneys for Keller filed the suit in Jackson County court Friday afternoon. The suit said Keller was a private figure who was defamed, slandered and libeled by the NCAA when he was accused of being a rogue Alabama booster two years ago. This case is completely about the failure, on two parts, of the NCAA, said Archie Lamb, Keller's Birmingham attorney. Clearly, these people decided that what they wanted was a truth that would be without any further corroboration. And because of their complete lack of responsibility toward anyone, they called my client (a rogue booster) without any proof. Keller, a Jackson County timber man, claims in the suit he has been publicly shamed by the NCAA's charges and has seen his business suffer dramatically. Keller lost out on a real estate deal valued at $1 million or more and was denied an opportunity to become a board member of the North Jackson Bank due to defamation, the suit claims. Keller has also incurred legal fees of $15,000. Lamb said the NCAA essentially ignored the requests. The Keller suit is not connected to other suits spinning off from the NCAA's investigation of the Alabama football program - notably a defamation suit filed by former Tide assistant coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams in Tuscaloosa. Lamb said the cases are different and will be pursued differently. I think one of the things we're trying to do is make sure this case remains on point, Lamb said Sunday. That point is: They committed an illegal act by libeling and slandering Ray. In addition to the NCAA, the suit names NCAA Executive Director Myles Brand, former Executive Director Cedric Dempsey, NCAA Committee on Infractions Chairman Thomas Yeager, NCAA investigator Rich Johanningmeier, former NCAA media relations specialists Jane Jankowski and Laronica Conway and recruiting analyst Tom Culpepper. The defendants have 30 days upon receiving notice of the complaint to respond. The suit claims the NCAA had information from Keller and other witnesses that directly contradicted information that was dispersed in a Feb. 1, 2002 press conference announcing penalties against Alabama due, in part, to the recruitment of former North Jackson standout defensive lineman Kenny Smith. The suit claims that Keller's injuries are ongoing, because the charges remain on the NCAA's Web site. The NCAA claimed that Keller, Memphis businessman Logan Young and Chattanooga car salesman Wendell Smith conspired to entice Kenny Smith into signing a letter of intent with Alabama. Specifically, the NCAA said Keller told Smith's father he knew of someone who could help the player if he signed with Alabama. The NCAA also said Keller visited the Smiths at their home in an effort to recruit the young man and made at least four cash payments of $100 each to the prospect. In the announcement of findings against Alabama and the boosters, the NCAA's Yeager used strong language in describing Keller as a pariah who brought unprecedented disgrace to the Crimson Tide football program for his part in a completely sordid affair. Don Word, a Scottsboro attorney and Lamb's co-counsel in the suit, wrote the NCAA twice in the last year. The NCAA's findings against Keller, said the letter, were false and without merit and ... based on a flawed, unprofessional and conspiratorial investigation. The letter requests a dialogue to resolve the issues. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] RE: Penguin Whacking
From: Tim Boozer crimsontim at earthlink.net My record = 320.5 feet http://home.tele2.fr/kcv/pinguin.swf 786.7 ! http://www.rolltidefan.net/Attachments/pic16317.jpg WHOOPH!!1~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Documents concerning Tennessee's role in the NCAA probe into Alabama
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[RollTideFan] Hey Slef!!
I ain't from around here, but I'm gettin' close! Yankee or Dixie? http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/quiz.htm 59% (Dixie). You are barely into the Dixie category! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] 1:00 press conference
http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040127/NEWS/40127001/1011 BREAKING NEWS: Gallion: Justice, FBI conspired with NCAA to get Alabama From combined reports January 27, 2004 Email this story. BIRMINGHAM | A lawyer suing the NCAA over its investigation of Alabama football claims the Justice Department and the FBI wrongly conspired with the sanctioning body to wreck the Crimson Tide program. Tommy Gallion, a University of Alabama graduate representing former Tide assistant coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams, said Congress should investigate the role of the government, which he accused of highly unethical behavior. They took over [an NCAA investigation] and went after the University of Alabama football program, with federal tax money footing the bill, Gallion said. The Justice Department did not immediately return a call seeking comment Tuesday, when Gallions comments were first reported. Federal prosecutors in Memphis, Tenn., began investigating Alabamas recruitment of Albert Means amid published reports that his high school coach took thousands of dollars to steer him toward Alabama. Two football coaches from Memphis have pleaded guilty to federal charges, and former Alabama booster Logan Young of Memphis is awaiting trial on conspiracy charges. Alabama was placed on probation. Young has pleaded innocent, and Gallion said he believes him. Gallion contends the NCAA was out to get Alabama and ignored violations at the University of Tennessee in exchange for information from Vols coach Phillip Fulmer. Cottrell and Williams are former UA assistants who sued the NCAA claiming they were wrongly implicated in rules violations. The Tuscaloosa News is staffing Gallions 1 p.m. news conference, and will update this story throughout the day. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Finebaum alert for LC
http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports/1075198688124350.xml Gallion scoring points against Fulmer, NCAA 01/27/04 Enough already. Stop this craziness. Does it really matter? That is a small but representative sampling of recent e-mails on a column about Tennessee football coach Phillip Fulmer's part-time job as a two-bit hustling detective and how it relates to the NCAA's shattering judgment on Alabama, which came almost two years ago. Well, I think it does matter. I think it matters because even though Alabama was clearly in the wrong and had serious problems in its program, which needed to be and were being rectified, the process used against the school was unscrupulous and contaminated and should never be applied again. And while others continue to rail on Montgomery attorney Tommy Gallion, his case against the NCAA and subsequent information being obtained through the criminal case in Memphis, his stand will likely help others down the road even though it's not likely to help Alabama. For too long, the NCAA's enforcement staff, as well as the Committee on Infractions, has been allowed to rule college athletics with a selective process and an iron fist. The NCAA has made decisions in secret without being accountable to anyone. Well, thanks to Gallion and this process of taking the case to the public, the times they are changing and the ultimate results could be remarkable. This most recent debate isn't really about whether Fulmer was a secret witness or not. It's unlikely any information he provided couldn't have been found elsewhere. The question is the principles and the morality of this organization giving the coach certain protections while his own program was being investigated. You don't have to be an Alabama fan to see the facade in that process. It's pathetic that many fans in Tennessee can't see the forest for the trees. Are you saying that doesn't stink? Oh, on the aroma meter, I'd put it up there with Bourbon Street at the crack of dawn. So what if Fulmer spent eight hours with Tom Culpepper gaining information? Well, it might matter more if Culpepper, who had a background in coaching and recruiting, was also discussing a possible job on Rocky Top! Regardless, what Fulmer did in the Alabama case may have helped the NCAA in the short term but it's likely to cost them in the end. In addition to helping to prove Gallion's case of a conspiracy, it is going to send out a clarion call to future prospective witnesses to start running if the NCAA comes calling. However, back to the original argument of whether it matters or not. It does because this is an organization that can and has ruined lives, careers and the well-being of universities with virtually no accountability. The NCAA needs to quit hiding behind the skirts of secret witnesses and manufactured evidence. ... The mission right now is to expose the NCAA for their corrupt tactics, their Mafioso tactics, said Gallion. And if it takes down the University of Tennessee's football program, hallelujah. Gallion didn't make that statement yesterday. Instead, he made it at the onset of this case, well over a year ago, in an interview with SI.com, when many of us were laughing at him, saying he was just another ambulance-chasing lawyer out for an easy buck. The other day, he told the same organization, in regard to Fulmer, I'm getting ready to pop that fat b. Well, here's hoping he does. Because to find a solution, one must first weed out the problems. Sometimes, turning in another school is necessary, particularly, if one has exhausted all the appropriate channels. However, in this case, Fulmer decided to get in bed with the NCAA and go way beyond the normal channels. Gallion has exposed Fulmer and I'm betting heavily he's going to be exposing a lot more in the coming days. It was a longshot at the beginning. Gallion is still not a favorite to win this case in court. However, in the court of public opinion, he has already shown what many of us have always believed -- the NCAA is a corrupt, out of control organization that needs to be brought to its knees. (Paul Finebaum's columns appears Tuesdays and Saturdays in the Mobile Register. Contact him at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Bama running out of bandages
(btw, Hoops are on the toob tonight) http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports/1075229137128660.xml Bama running out of bandages Add Winston to list of hobbling Tide players 01/27/04 By PAUL GATTIS Times Sports Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] TUSCALOOSA - Tonight's opponent, as if it mattered, is 22nd-ranked Florida. To Alabama coach Mark Gottfried, it might as well be the Los Angeles Lakers or nearby Central High School. Quite simply, too much is wrong and too little is right these days for the Crimson Tide. We have to figure out ourselves, Gottfried said Monday, as well as figure out Florida. Sure, Alabama still has a sparkling RPI - checking in this week at No. 19 against the nation's third-toughest schedule despite the ugly loss Saturday at Ole Miss. Sure, the premature NCAA Tournament projections all have the Tide on their brackets. But that's the past and the future. The problems are in the present. Leading scorer Earnest Shelton will miss his second straight game with strained knee ligaments. Starting center Jermareo Davidson went down against Ole Miss with a knee injury of his own, though he's expected to play against the Gators. Then there's Kennedy Winston - who is the Tide's leading scorer in Shelton's absence. But his left knee, which required surgery in September to repair torn cartilage, was being temperamental Monday. He woke up (Monday) morning and it looked like a grapefruit down there, Gottfried said of the swelling in the knee. So with this unsettling backdrop, Alabama (11-5, 3-2 Southeastern Conference) will try to maintain its 11-game winning streak at Coleman Coliseum. Obviously, Gottfried said, we've got to play a great game to have a chance to upset them. We're banged up and that's not where you want to be going into a game like this. Davidson will play but his knee won't be 100 percent, Gottfried said. The same goes for Winston, who has battled soreness all season. The wounded Tide must recover to face the Gators, who spent a week at No. 1 earlier this season and are 12-4 against the nation's toughest schedule. Florida snapped a two-game losing streak with Saturday's 68-52 win over Auburn. But the Gators are just 1-2 on their opponents' home floor this season, losing at Louisville and Vanderbilt and winning at South Carolina. We've been a pretty good road team the last several years, coach Billy Donovan said. But maybe we're starting over on the road from the standpoint of having a lot of young guys trying to figure out how to play on the road. Indeed, the Gators (12-4, 3-2) started four sophomores and a junior against Auburn. But four starters - forwards David Lee and Christian Drejer and guards Anthony Roberson and Matt Walsh - are scoring in double figures. And while all four are capable of carrying the Gators themselves, Gottfried is particularly wary of Roberson - the sharpshooting point guard who has made 44 percent of his 3-pointers this season. I'm not sure there are a whole lot of guards better than him, Gottfried said. He shoots it quickly and effectively. He's a big-time basketball player. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Namath's need for help hurts
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04026/265715.stm Namath's need for help hurts Monday, January 26, 2004 By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette I got up early yesterday, way before my usual noon time, to catch Joe Namath on ESPN's Outside The Lines. I wish I had stayed in bed. It's time for a shameful confession: I'm 47 years old, and I feel let down. Is that pathetic or what? Of course, it's pathetic, but I can't help it. It's bad enough that Namath made a fool of himself on national television a few weeks ago. Now, we have to see him on ESPN telling the world he needs help for an alcohol problem? Sorry, but that hurts. I'm guessing that's the reaction a lot of people who grew up in Beaver Falls in the 1960s and '70s. We loved calling that little town in Beaver County home, but it's not as if we had a lot to brag about. There was the Babcock Wilcox steel plant, where most of our fathers worked. There was the Corner Tavern, where everyone still drinks cheap beer and eats the best pasta in the valley. And there was the Blue Room pool hall on Seventh Avenue, where everyone hung out. But we also had Joe Namath. No one else could make that claim, thank you. He wasn't just one of us. He became the king of the sports world. He was so big that we didn't think he was trying to be the least bit funny when he asked Muhammad Ali on national television, So, Muhammad, how does it feel to be with a real star? We thought it was a legitimate question. It all started with Namath's marvelous football ability. He's right; he was a real star. He was a star at Beaver Falls High School for Larry Bruno, a legendary coach in our little corner of the world. He was a star at Alabama for Bear Bryant, a legendary figure in any corner of the football world and a man who once called him the greatest athlete I ever coached. And, after signing a $427,000 contract, which seemed like a zillion dollars to us in 1965, he was a star for the New York Jets, so bright that, with his amazing performance against the heavily favored Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III, he almost single-handedly forced the AFL-NFL merger and made Super Bowl Sunday a national holiday that virtually all of America will celebrate again this week. Broadway Joe. Man, he was so cool. Every teenage boy in Beaver Falls rushed out to buy his book, I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow, 'Cause I Get Better-Looking Every Day. We dreamed of being in his shoes for just one night after he said, I like my Johnnie Walker Red and my women blonde. We all wanted to party with him at his East Side saloon in Manhattan, Bachelors III. We would have grown a Fu Manchu and worn a full-length fur coat if our parents had allowed us. Heck, we even considered trying panty hose after he had the nerve to put a pair on. Joe Willie was bigger than life. That probably explains why his fall is so painful to so many of us. It started a month ago when Namath, drunk and slurring his words, twice told ESPN's NFL sideline reporter Suzy Kolber that he wanted to kiss her during a national television interview. He later apologized to Kolber, which would have been enough. He had built up so many goodwill points over the years that this unfortunate incident would have gone away quickly. But there Namath was yesterday, back on ESPN, telling everyone that he sought counseling for alcoholism. I can't handle it ... I'm convinced that I needed help. Who knows? Maybe it's true. Maybe Namath, 60 now, turned to alcohol as an escape after his marriage broke up 2 1/2 years ago. If that's the case, heaven help him with his recovery. But it's so easy to be cynical these days. A lot of celebrities get in a jackpot and immediately blame alcohol or drugs. That's the easy way out. It's the best and fastest way to get the sympathy vote. We're big on forgiveness in the country, big on second, third and fourth chances. Maybe that's what Namath was after yesterday. If it is, heaven help those of us who believed so much in him. Either way, I'll never look at Namath the same way again. I know that's more my problem than his. He never asked to be my role model or anyone else's. No athlete should have to carry that burden. Charles Barkley had that right a few years back. It's not fair to people who are just as fallible as the rest of us, if not more so. I've been preaching for years that the only role models any kid should have should be across his or her dinner table. At 47, I believe that more than ever. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Key figure in athletes scandal wants his federal indictment dismissed
http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=1617409 Posted by: George Metaxas, 1/26/04, 6:13 p.m. Key figure in athletes scandal wants his federal indictment dismissed By Janice Broach A key figure in the Mid-South auctioning athletes scandal wants his federal indictment dismissed. Logan Young was back in court Monday. This is a federal case that involves big time football, the Crimson Tide of Alabama and now a big time football coach, Phil Fulmer of the University of Tennessee. And Logan Young's attorneys want to force Fulmer to start talking to them. Memphis businessman and Alabama booster, Logan Young left the federal court house flanked by his very high powered attorneys.Young, on the advice of his attorneys, would only say he didn't do it. No absolutely not. Young says he absolutely did not pay 150-thousand dollars to former Trezevant High football coach Lynn Lang to get Albert Means, who now plays for the University of Memphis, but was on the Bama team, to sign with Alabama in 2-thousand. Young's attorneys are trying to get the indictment dismissed for another reason. Attorney Jim Neal said, We think we have a very serious motion to dismiss this case because in our opinion, our contention, this is not a matter for the federal government to be it anyway. Even though the NCAA is investigating, Young's court case is a federal matter involving the FBI. Young's attorney Jim Neal is also going after University of Tennessee head football coach Phil Fulmer, who he said seems to have become Columbo. In court documents, Fulmer aided the NCAA investigation and Fulmer and the NCAA tried to keep Fulmer's name out of it. The documents say a witness alleges Young laundered the money allegedly used in the recruiting through Tunica casinos, and that Young is worth 2-hundred million dollars. Young's attorneys want to subpoena Fulmer to question him. I don't think I should say anymore about that. Mr. Fulmer will have to take care of himself. Jim Neal says if the case does go to trial, it will be very interesting. Logan Young is scheduled to be back on Federal Court in April. Former Trezevant coach Lynn Lang is awaiting sentencing on federal charges in the case. Milton Kirk was sentenced to 3 years probation, 200 hours of community service and 6 months in a half-way house. Albert Means is currently a student at the University of Memphis. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Tide-Vols rivalry could play out in court
http://www.ajc.com/uga/content/sports/uga/0104/27tide.html Tide-Vols rivalry could play out in court By MARK SCHLABACH Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer Montgomery -- One of the nation's most storied college football rivalries is being played out in a federal lawsuit, a criminal case and, if one lawyer gets his way, a congressional investigation. It's Alabama vs. Tennessee, but it's much more than that. The lawyer for two former Alabama assistant coaches alleges they were the victims of a plot by Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer, three Tennessee boosters, the NCAA, the FBI and the Memphis office of the U.S. Justice Department. There's at least one shred of truth. Evidence ties Fulmer to the NCAA investigation that resulted in Alabama receiving a five-year probation, a two-year bowl ban and a reduction in football scholarships. Documents the NCAA was forced to release this month show that Fulmer spoke at least twice with the NCAA official who investigated Alabama. Fulmer called enforcement director Rich Johanningmeier on May 23, 2000 and Aug. 7, 2000 and told him about wrongdoing by Alabama booster Logan Young, Johanningmeier's report says. Young was the key figure in Alabama's infractions case. Thomas Gallion of Montgomery, who is representing former Crimson Tide assistants Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams in a $60 million defamation suit against the NCAA and six other defendants, charges that Fulmer and Tennessee informed on Alabama to win NCAA leniency for themselves. Since 2000, Tennessee has been cleared of allegations of academic fraud and paying a player, and the NCAA accepted the school's self-imposed slap on the wrist for a recruiting violation. Gallion accuses the NCAA of ignoring violations at Tennessee in exchange for Fulmer's testimony against Alabama. And he accuses federal agencies of working with the NCAA to undermine the Crimson Tide football program. In an Oct. 22 letter to Tennessee athletics director Mike Hamilton, Gallion wrote: We have reason to believe the U.S. Justice Department in Memphis, together with the FBI, have been working with the NCAA and these Tennessee boosters to further inflict harm on the University of Alabama football program. The Tennessee boosters had their sources at the FBI and Justice Department, and they used them, Gallion said Monday. The Memphis FBI office did not return calls seeking comment. At a news conference in Birmingham today, Gallion said, he will ask for a congressional hearing into the NCAA's investigation of Alabama and the FBI's involvement in it. The NCAA doesn't comment on investigations, spokesman Jeff Howard said, but he said the NCAA was disappointed with the cavalier way documents -- including confidential interviews -- have been handled by some attorneys involved. Recruitment of Means SEC commissioner Mike Slive said he doesn't believe the NCAA would overlook violations at Tennessee in exchange for Fulmer's testimony against Alabama. I just don't see the NCAA giving an institution a free pass under any circumstances, Slive said. That would just have ramifications the NCAA wouldn't want to have to answer to. I don't think that's the case at all. Gallion said last week he is sending evidence to Hamilton and the NCAA that proves the Volunteers committed NCAA rules violations. Hamilton and Fulmer declined to be interviewed for this story. Alabama and Tennessee wage one of the nation's most intense interstate rivalries, a game so famous that fans throughout the South used to refer to it simply by its spot on the calendar: The Third Saturday in October. The rescheduling of the game to the fourth Saturday in October -- and Tennessee's victories in eight of its last nine games against Alabama -- have done nothing to lower the passion on either end. Young, a longtime Alabama booster, was indicted in October by a federal grand jury in Memphis on charges of conspiracy, crossing state lines to commit racketeering and arranging bank withdrawals to cover up a crime. Young pleaded innocent; he faces up to 15 years in prison and a $900,000 fine if convicted. The charges stem from the Crimson Tide's recruitment of defensive tackle Albert Means of Memphis. Means signed with Alabama in February 2000 but left school when his high school coach was accused of accepting $150,000 from Young to influence Means to sign with the Tide. Cottrell and Williams lost their jobs after the NCAA's investigation of Alabama, an investigation Cottrell criticizes for relying on unnamed witnesses. The NCAA defends its use of anonymous witnesses, claiming that, because it lacks subpoena power, it must be able to offer anonymity to obtain the information it needs. Fulmer not given anonymity The NCAA intended to grant Fulmer anonymity. Johanningmeier's interview summaries of both conversations state: Fulmer should be considered a confidential source of information and this memorandum should not be
[RollTideFan] [Fwd: Key figure in athletes scandal wants his federal indictment dismissed]
? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/01/26 Mon PM 11:22:19 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Key figure in athletes scandal wants his federal indictment dismissed You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---BeginMessage--- http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=1617409 Posted by: George Metaxas, 1/26/04, 6:13 p.m. Key figure in athletes scandal wants his federal indictment dismissed By Janice Broach A key figure in the Mid-South auctioning athletes scandal wants his federal indictment dismissed. Logan Young was back in court Monday. This is a federal case that involves big time football, the Crimson Tide of Alabama and now a big time football coach, Phil Fulmer of the University of Tennessee. And Logan Young's attorneys want to force Fulmer to start talking to them. Memphis businessman and Alabama booster, Logan Young left the federal court house flanked by his very high powered attorneys.Young, on the advice of his attorneys, would only say he didn't do it. No absolutely not. Young says he absolutely did not pay 150-thousand dollars to former Trezevant High football coach Lynn Lang to get Albert Means, who now plays for the University of Memphis, but was on the Bama team, to sign with Alabama in 2-thousand. Young's attorneys are trying to get the indictment dismissed for another reason. Attorney Jim Neal said, We think we have a very serious motion to dismiss this case because in our opinion, our contention, this is not a matter for the federal government to be it anyway. Even though the NCAA is investigating, Young's court case is a federal matter involving the FBI. Young's attorney Jim Neal is also going after University of Tennessee head football coach Phil Fulmer, who he said seems to have become Columbo. In court documents, Fulmer aided the NCAA investigation and Fulmer and the NCAA tried to keep Fulmer's name out of it. The documents say a witness alleges Young laundered the money allegedly used in the recruiting through Tunica casinos, and that Young is worth 2-hundred million dollars. Young's attorneys want to subpoena Fulmer to question him. I don't think I should say anymore about that. Mr. Fulmer will have to take care of himself. Jim Neal says if the case does go to trial, it will be very interesting. Logan Young is scheduled to be back on Federal Court in April. Former Trezevant coach Lynn Lang is awaiting sentencing on federal charges in the case. Milton Kirk was sentenced to 3 years probation, 200 hours of community service and 6 months in a half-way house. Albert Means is currently a student at the University of Memphis. ---End Message--- __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Bounceyball article
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/sec/2004-01-21-alabama-hudson-cover2_x.htm Trailblazer back at 'Bama By Malcolm Moran, USA TODAY TUSCALOOSA, Ala. Student and teacher were reunited in November at the start of Wendell Hudson's new professional life. Hudson, an assistant athletics director at the University of Alabama, was in New York's Madison Square Garden for his first game supervising the basketball program he had changed forever. C.M. Newton, the coach who brought in Hudson as Alabama's first African-American scholarship athlete in 1969, was there for radio commentary. They exchanged memories, shared laughter. They marveled at the road they had traveled. More than three decades have passed since Hudson's playing career ended in the same Madison Square Garden where his new career is beginning. Then, he was the school's first Southeastern Conference player of the year. And Alabama's trip to the '73 National Invitation Tournament was important enough that coach Paul Bryant, the Bear himself, changed his spring football practice schedule to fly to New York and sit on the Crimson Tide bench. The three altered a landscape with an effort built upon Hudson's ability, commitment and demeanor, Newton's vision to build a program with in-state talent regardless of color and Bryant's endorsement of a new coach's initiative. Hudson came home after spending 18 years at McLennan Community College in Waco, Texas, in capacities that included women's basketball coach, men's basketball coach and athletics director. He is the first former Alabama basketball player to become an administrator in its athletics department. There's a story to his past, but he has been a very successful athletic director at the junior college level, says Alabama coach and former player Mark Gottfried. Wearing the uniform doesn't make you qualified to do it. That's what I like about Wendell and what he has done professionally. I don't have to play catch-up with him. That's because Hudson knows the territory. There's no learning curve, no awkward moments with the coach. His duties will include leading the effort to reconnect with former athletes and helping to carry out the school's first capital campaign for athletics, a $100 million project to improve facilities. The result of his previous effort cannot be calculated. The flippant, often-repeated notion that University of Southern California running back Sam Cunningham's 1970 success against the Crimson Tide was a turning point for integration trivializes the understanding that began to take shape one year earlier. Before Wilbur Jackson and John Mitchell integrated Alabama football, Hudson became the only black resident of Bryant Hall, the athletics dorm. The emerging status of Alabama basketball and the enduring success of Bryant's program would depend upon Hudson's sense of accomplishment and contentment. Wendell was in a position of nodding his head or shaking his head, says Ben Shurett, then a student manager for the basketball program, now a newspaper publisher in Fort Payne, Ala. If he had said, 'You don't want to come here,' that would have had a tremendous effect on the football program. Ray Odums, whose Carver High team lost to Hudson's Parker High in the finals of the first integrated Alabama state tournament in 1969, would enroll at Alabama one year after Hudson's arrival. They were treating him real nice, and he was enjoying himself, says Odums, who became an all-SEC guard. If that hadn't happened? It probably would have really hurt the recruiting of black athletes, he says. Mal Moore, the Alabama athletics director who hired Hudson last summer, was an assistant football coach at the time. He says, The success of Wendell and John Mitchell and Wilbur Jackson did as much for integration in this state as any one thing. It brought everybody together. A matter of family The relationship between Hudson and Newton has always been far more than a milepost for a university, a state and a region. It could be found in the coach's assurance, apprehensive and resolute at once, in response to a mother's question. She said, 'What's it going to be like for my boy down at the university?' Newton says, remembering. I just told her, 'I don't know. I only know how I'm treating him. I'm not going to treat Wendell any different than anybody else. I'm a middle-class white guy. I don't know what it's going to be like.' The relationship began with Newton's admiration for the discipline of a single-parent household in Birmingham and Hudson's ability to navigate without access to a car. The coach would eventually give the player driving lessons. NCAA rule violation, probably, Newton says. If it is, bury me. After his wife, Evelyn, died in March 2000, Newton began to suspect, correctly, that Hudson had something to do with the periodic telephone calls from former players. Soon after, when Newton would learn of an honor
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1713916 Associated Press NACOGDOCHES, Texas -- Texas AM running back Derek Farmer became the second key offensive player to leave the team Tuesday when he enrolled at Stephen F. Austin for his senior season. Farmer followed backup quarterback Dustin Long, who started classes last week at Sam Houston State University. By transferring to NCAA Division I-AA Southland Conference schools, both players are eligible to play immediately. We are as excited to have someone of Derek's abilities come into our program as he is about coming to Stephen F. Austin, SFA coach Mike Santiago said. He has the potential to add more quality to an already good football team. In three seasons at Texas AM, Farmer gained 1,582 yards. He started all 12 Aggie games last season and gained 340 yards on 82 carries. His performance was overshadowed by Courtney Lewis, who rushed 1,024 yards. AM coach Dennis Franchione was not immediately available for comment. [...] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] nfldraftblitz.com
http://nfldraftblitz.com/mock_draft.htm Mock Draft 1/9/04 The following draft uses the order that teams would currently draft under. Please note that teams #31 and #32 are both AFC teams and will obviously not draft in those spots due to the fact that Super Bowl participants occupy those spots. But for the time being it would seem silly to move teams around. The only underclassmen included are those we feel are very likely to enter the draft. ... 40.Jacksonville Jaguars PICK: Antwaan Odom, DE, Alabama Improving the pass rush especially from the edge is a priority for the Jags. Odom is an athletic prospect who might need a year but is capable of becoming a very good player. 93.Kansas City Chiefs PICK: Justin Smiley, G, Alabama The eventual replacement for Will Shields. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Lawyers: Fulmer a secret witness
http://www.al.com/sports/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/sports/107424826113040.xml Lawyers: Fulmer a secret witness Attorneys for former Tide coaches say documents show Tennessee coach sought out NCAA to accuse Bama of violations 01/16/04 By THOMAS MURPHY Sports Reporter Lawyers for former University of Alabama assistant football coaches Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams say recently released documents show University of Tennessee head coach Phillip Fulmer was used as a confidential witness in the NCAA's case against Alabama. Cottrell and Williams have filed a $60 million lawsuit against the NCAA and other parties. I've been saying, 'Look at Tennessee' all along, said Montgomery-based attorney Tommy Gallion. It's amazing that an organization like the NCAA would not only cover up the dealings (of alleged NCAA infractions) with Tennessee but also, at the direction of (Fulmer), go after another program. They buried everything at Tennessee and they went after Alabama based on what Phillip Fulmer said. Memphis-based attorney Phillip Shanks, co-counsel for Cottrell and Williams, said Fulmer and Tom Culpepper, a Birmingham recruiting analyst whom Shanks identified as another secret witness in the Alabama case, discussed ways to turn the NCAA loose on Alabama football to vindicate each of their agendas. Documents obtained by the Register on Thursday show Fulmer initiated two phone conversations with NCAA investiga tor Rich Johanningmeier, on May 23, 2000 and Aug. 7, 2000, to discuss what Fulmer felt were potential NCAA rules violations at Alabama. During the Aug. 7 call, Fulmer told Johanningmeier that, with his lawyer's advice, Fulmer secretly recorded 90 minutes of an eight-hour conversation with Culpepper in Chattanooga during the summer of 2000 in which Culpepper discussed information he could provide regarding NCAA rules violations at Alabama. In Johanningmeier's interview summaries, the investigator wrote in all capital letters: Fulmer should be regarded as a confidential source of information and this memorandum should not be included in any custodial arrangements that could be made in the future with the University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa. Gallion and Shanks have been poring through more than 7,800 pages of documents and hundreds of hours of tapes related to the NCAA's investigation of Alabama, including interviews between Johanningmeier and Fulmer. The documents, which the NCAA had argued to keep sealed, became available through a motion by Jim Neal, the former Watergate prosecutor and lead counsel for former Alabama booster Logan Young in his federal conspiracy case. The documents and tapes offer a glimpse into the NCAA's lengthy investigation into Alabama football and the role Fulmer played. The government has to know now, with this information that has been released ... there is no case against Logan, no case against Ronnie and no case against Ivy, Shanks said. They were the wild imaginations from the diseased mind of Tom Culpepper with help from Fulmer. Fulmer did not immediately return a phone message left by the Register Thursday evening. According to Johanningmeier's interview summaries, Fulmer said a friend of his who worked with Game Day Centers, a group out of Opelika that developed condominiums near college football stadiums, had information pertaining to former Alabama running back Shaun Alexander and a Dr. Porch. The friend, according to Fulmer, said Porch's daughter told him that her family was looking forward to being assigned another Alabama football student-athlete after enjoying a close relationship with Alexander. Sandra Porch Nesmith, an elementary school teacher in Arab and the daughter of Arab physician and long-time Alabama supporter Dr. Ellis Porch Sr., called Fulmer's statement absolutely absurd. My daddy has always been very active in the First Baptist Church and our pastor was always looking for ways to get the youth more involved in church, Nesmith said Thursday. Daddy went through the university to get some players to come speak to our church. Shaun came up with (former Alabama quarterback) John David Phillips and spoke. Shaun spoke a couple of times, including at our fifth-grade D.A.R.E. graduation, and he would come to our house when he did. But daddy was always very careful to ask the people at the university to make sure nothing was against the rules. I never said anything about a player being assigned because nothing like that ever happened. That's just a bold-face lie. Fulmer also told Johanningmeier that Culpepper could provide information to the NCAA on several fronts against Alabama. To wit: -- Arrangements were made to pay Alexander to play his senior season of 1999; -- Arrangements were made to obtain a fraudulent ACT score for former Tide player Harold James; -- A person who monitored standardized tests was paid by Cottrell to ensure that prospects being recruited by Alabama would receive
[RollTideFan] Alabama attorney says Fulmer lied to NCAA
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/gv_football/article/0,1406,KNS_297_2581182,00.html Alabama attorney says Fulmer lied to NCAA By MIKE GRIFFITH January 16, 2004 Gallion said on a Birmingham radio show that Fulmer told a pack of lies in his testimony to the NCAA regarding the investigation into violations that occurred at the University of Alabama. Fulmer wouldnt comment on what he told the NCAA. This relates to an ongoing federal investigation in Memphis, Fulmer said. Its not appropriate to discuss it. According to Gallion, Fulmer was one of three secret witnesses who provided damning testimony in the NCAAs case against Alabama. The Tide was placed on five years probation, which included the loss of 21 scholarships and a two-year bowl ban. Gallion said he has copies of documentation in which Fulmer told the NCAA that former Tide running back Shaun Alexander received improper benefits and that a former Alabama assistant coach carried on an affair with a recruits mother. The documentation reportedly was filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Memphis in conjunction with a federal investigation of Alabama booster Logan Young. Young was accused of paying $150,000 to lure Memphis defensive line prospect Albert Means to Alabama. He has pleaded innocent to charges of conspiracy, crossing state lines to commit racketeering and arranging bank withdrawals to cover up a crime. Gallion, who represents Ronnie Cottrell and Ivy Williams in various suits involving their dismissal from the Tides football staff in 2000, said there is more to come in his crusade against Fulmers hypocrisy. This is the first missile, if you want to call it that, Gallion said. We hope to put a lot more together. Gallion said the court documents relate to an eight-hour meeting in Chattanooga between Alabama Internet recruiting analyst Tom Culpepper, Fulmer and Fulmers attorney in August 2000. Gallion said portions of the meeting were recorded on tape. According to Gallion, Fulmer fostered a relationship with Culpepper while coaching in the Hula Bowl all-star game in 2000. Culpepper also provided testimony to the NCAA against Alabama. Copyright 2004, KnoxNews. All Rights Reserved. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] 10 should be pron movies (non)
copied from elsewhere 10. Forrest Hump 9. Pulp Friction 8. Romancing the Bone 7. Snow White and the Seven Sailors 6. Saving Ryan's Privates 5. Buffy the Vampire Layer 4. Teenage Mutant Ninja Dildoes 3. Rambone 2. Monty's Python and the Holey Girl 1. E-Three: The Extra Testicle kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] 10 should be pron movies (non)
From: Jamie Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] They forgots Driving It In Miss DaisyHTH, Jamie BWHAHAHA! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Renaldo Rice
From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was cheering for yore Bulldawgs last night. That loss hurt _MY_ feelings. No chit! Speaking of... Anybunny wanna caption this? http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0401/14/wmsu012.jpg kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] fwiw..
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/news_message?Category=FORUMSThemeID=20GroupID=35InReplyTo=226190 It could be giving us a sample of an 8 hr. secretly recorded tape between Phat Phil and Tom Culpepper discussing recruiting schemes that were used against the Tide! Somehow, Logan Young got his hands on this tape, or a copy, and passed it along to Tommy Gallion, for review. This could make the case against the ncaa a little more interesting!! I wonder if this has anything to do with the ncaa suddenly dropping their most recent letter in our lap...well before the Memphis hearing could have dug up more condemning evidence on us. I bet the case against LY never makes it to the courthouse steps! Ram it home, Tommy!! (info is from a reliable, in close, source!) RTR! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] The Tide has turned
http://recruiting.theinsiders.com/2/222779.html Posted: Jan 12, 2004 For Alabama, things have gotten better, especially when it comes to recruiting. The Tide has turned By Jamie Newberg National Recruiting Analyst As of last Thursday Alabama checked in the with No. 13 rated recruiting class. What a big and pleasant surprise Alabama has been this recruiting season, especially after all the adversity in Tuscaloosa. Signing Day is next month and there are still many prospects out there. In fact, there are too many to count and still a ways to go. Like always, there will be some surprises. One big surprise already this recruiting season is the Alabama Crimson Tide. I guess one could say the Tide has turned. Lets face it, the University of Alabama has had more than its share of problems over the past few years. Alabama has faced NCAA probation, scholarship reductions, coaching turnover and embarrassment to one of the most prestigious programs in all of college football. It has been Murphy's Law in Tuscaloosa: Everything that could have gone wrong has gone wrong. After the Mike Price debacle, Alabama went back to family and brought in Mike Shula. Coach Shula had no spring practice and a stacked deck against him this past season. They played their way through an un-Alabama like 4-9 season. Things looked bleak in Tuscaloosa until recently. Shula and company have a top class that has quieted the critics for now. When you consider all that has gone wrong, what they have done is simply extraordinary when it comes to recruiting. Going into this season, their bitter in-state rival, Auburn, was expected to dominate the recruiting scene in the state of Alabama. But Auburn greatly underachieved this past year. Then, after the season, Tommy Tuberville was on the hot seat. Was he staying or was he going? The president, athletic director and others created an embarrassing situation of their own. Who benefited? It looks like Alabama did. Shula has one of the top recruiting classes in the ultra-competitive SEC right now. And things should stay that way over the next four weeks. Leading the way are several in-state standouts like defensive back Simeon Castile (Birmingham, Ala.), offensive linemen B.J. Stabler (Grove Hill, Ala.), Justin Britt (Cullman, Ala.) and Cody Davis (Tuscaloosa, Ala.), defensive tackle Kevin Hamilton (Prattville, Ala.), safety Marcus Carter (Fort Payne, Ala.), offensive lineman Antoine Caldwell (Montgomery) and linebacker Ezekiel Knight (Wedowee, Ala.). Last season, Hoover, Ala., All-American wide receiver Chad Jackson signed with the Gators over Alabama. This season, Hoover has several big name recruits and Alabama got them all, including quarterback John Parker Wilson, defensive end Jeramie Holifield and linebacker Curtis Dawson. The state's top recruit, wide receiver Nikita Stover, also has committed to play for the Crimson Tide. Despite their success the Crimson Tide did lose some key recruits. The state's top running back, Markus Manson (Tuscalossa, Ala.), committed to Florida but will still visit Alabama on the last visit weekend of the month. Defensive tackle David Brown (Madison, Ala.) has committed to Georgia Tech and defensive back Chevis Jackson (Mobile, Ala.) has committed to LSU. But Alabama is still fighting for some super out-of-state recruits. Defensive lineman Lorenzo Washington (Loganville, Ga.) is one of the top recruits from the Peach State and the Tide and Dawgs have been his longtime leaders. Also, the top prospect in the state of Georgia, linebacker/defensive end Brandon Miller (Colquitt, Ga.), is expected to make an official visit to Alabama some time this month. That's big in itself. Other possibilies are offensive lineman Chester Adams (Luverne, Ala.), wide receiver D.J. Hall (Ft. Walton Beach, Fla.), defensive end K.T. Mainard (Coalmont, Tenn., wide receiver Keith Brown (Pensacola, Fla.) and defensive lineman Jeremy Jones (Harvey, La.). The bottom line is that Alabama has overcome its troubles, taken advantage of Auburn's woes and fought hard to beat most of their out of state rivals for the top-notch kids. But the state of Alabama is like no other. No one takes their football as seriously as they do and, lets face it, if you grow up a fan of Alabama, you will want to play there whether they are 12-0 or 0-12. Maybe this is a sign that there are better times ahead for Shula, the program and the loyal Alabama faithful. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] 2003-2004 Ultimate National Title
Screw the BCS, the bowls and all the playoff systems. We're once again doing our Ultimate National Title taking every Division-I college football team and giving them a shot at the crown. This is a war of endurance as much as talent. With 117 teams, there has to be three of 29 teams and one of 30. The weakest of the No. 3 seeds, in this case, Ole Miss, has to play an extra game. All of the other top three seeds get a first round bye. The higher seed gets the home game up until the semifinals. The seedings are based on our rankings before all the bowl games. In the interest of trying to avoid games that are repeats of regular season matchups trying to put as many different teams from different conferences in the brackets and yes, the geographical directions are names only. Click link for all the seedings. http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/ULT/2004_Brackets.htm Round won is in the books! Bama 24 UNLV 17 http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/ULT/North_1st.htm Next up. #1 seed Kansas State... ROLL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] I have to do ever thing...
http://www.cyborgname.com/ K.U.R.T.: Kinetic Unit Responsible for Troubleshooting kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Number 12..
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[RollTideFan] This is teh suck... (non)
He wuz won of the good guys... http://www.al.com/sportsflash/baseball/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1073354942167052.xml Former relief pitcher Tug McGraw dies By ROB MAADDI The Associated Press 1/5/2004, 9:23 p.m. CT PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Tug McGraw, the zany relief pitcher who coined the phrase You Gotta Believe with the New York Mets and later closed out the Philadelphia Phillies' only World Series championship, died Monday. He was 59. McGraw died of brain cancer at the home of his son, country music star Tim McGraw, outside of Nashville, according to Laurie Hawkins, a family spokesperson. He had been battling the disease since March when he underwent surgery for a malignant tumor. McGraw's illness came as a shock to fans and friends alike last spring. He was at Phillies' training camp in Clearwater, Fla., as a special instructor, looking fine and acting as funny as ever. Then, he was suddenly hospitalized on March 12. We lost a part of Mets history tonight, Mets owner Fred Wilpon said. Tug was a battler on and off the field. I know he fought the disease with every ounce of energy he had. We'll all miss him dearly. Especially former Phillies teammate and Hall of Famer Mike Schmidt. He put up a gallant fight, Schmidt said. Publicly, he never let on that he had gotten a raw deal. He was Tug through the entire thing. As he always said, `I front-loaded my life, just like my contract.' His passing is hard to take because his presence meant so much to people around him. Bob Boone, who was the Phillies' catcher from 1972-81, remained a close friend, too. I was real pleased I was able to be with him a little bit the last couple of months, Boone said from his home in Anaheim, Calif. All of a sudden it hit and he went real quick, which probably is a blessing. I know he got more living out of his 59 years than anybody. What you saw was what Tug was. There was no phoniness at all. He loved people and loved life. McGraw participated in the closing ceremonies for Veterans Stadium, which will be demolished next month. During the program, he re-enacted his final pitch of the 1980 World Series, striking out Kansas City's Willie Wilson for the title. He popularized the phrase You Gotta Believe during the Mets' 1973 World Championship season and carried the slogan through his illness, vowing he'd be on hand next month to push the button to bring down the Vet. McGraw was known for charging off the mound, slapping his right hand on his thigh and tapping his chest after a close call. Patting his hand on his heart after a guy hits a home run foul, who would do that in the heat of the battle? said Phillies manager Larry Bowa, who played with McGraw on the 1980 championship team. But it showed he had no fear. He was loose. That's how he played the game. A left-hander who threw a screwball, McGraw could be a bit of screwball himself. Once asked whether he preferred to play on a grass field or an artificial surface, he said, I don't know. I never smoked any AstroTurf. McGraw's playful personality often overshadowed his talent. He was an outstanding big-game pitcher during his 19-year career. In 26 postseason games, he had a 2.23 ERA and was 3-3 with eight saves. McGraw was 96-92 with a 3.14 ERA and 180 saves, and was a two-time All-Star. He made his major league debut with the Mets in 1965 at age 20 and finished with the Phillies in 1984. After the 1974 season, McGraw was traded by the Mets to Philadelphia in a six-player swap that sent John Stearns to New York. With McGraw, the Phillies won five division titles, two NL pennants and one World Series. McGraw had 20 saves and a 1.46 ERA in 1980, helping put Philadelphia into the playoffs. After the Phillies got past Houston in a tight NLCS McGraw pitched in every game of the best-of-five series they faced the Royals in the World Series. In addition to his son Tim, McGraw is survived by sons Mark and Matthew McGraw; a daughter, Cari Velardo, and four grandchildren. Funeral arrangements were not immediately available. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Skaigash the Wretched!
http://www.barrowdowns.com/middleearthname.asp According to the Red Book of Westmarch, In Middle-earth, kurt rasmussen was a Miruvor-drinking Avari [...] Poor me another won o' them Miruvors!!1! Skaigash the Wretched! --- manly __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Skaigash the Wretched!
From: SecFan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Golbag the Atrocious here. Seems appropriate. Spurrier to Florida? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Skaigash the Wretched!
heh... kurt From: Steven Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/01/04 Sun PM 06:44:30 EST To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Skaigash the Wretched! The website is already up. http://www.bringsteveback.com/pages/1/index.htm RTR LC --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: SecFan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Golbag the Atrocious here. Seems appropriate. Spurrier to Florida? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Arkansas Coach Nutt Turns Down Nebraska
Arkansas Coach Nutt Turns Down Nebraska By DOUGLAS PILS AP Sports Writer January 03, 2004 Houston Nutt rejected Nebraska's $2 million coaching offer, saying strong family ties and a job left undone kept him at Arkansas. I could not take my family, myself, and get on that plane, Nutt said at a news conference Saturday. My heart was here. Nebraska offered Nutt the job Friday, but Arkansas made a counteroffer. They're going to take care of me. There are some things still being worked out, Nutt said. Nutt said he was flattered at Nebraska's offer, but that it was best for him to remain in his home state. For six long years we've poured our heart into this program and we feel that our work isn't finished, Nutt said. Nebraska fired coach Frank Solich in November after a 9-3 regular season. At Arkansas, Nutt has won nine games in the regular season twice, in 1998 and 2002. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Not Nutt...
http://www.kthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=8219 FROM FAYETTEVILLE: 6 PM NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED Despite a tempting offer, reported to be in the neighborhood of $ 2 million dollars, to be the coach of the University of Nebraska, indications are that Houston Nutt will announce that he will be staying on as head coach of the Arkansas Razorback football team at a 6:00 p.m. press conference. Todays THV will carry that press conference live at 6:00 p.m. The first indication that Nutt may be staying on as Arkansas coach were reports Friday afternoon that he was calling recruits and telling them he was staying on. Arkansas finished 9-4 this year, Nutt's third nine-win season in six years, after beating Missouri 27-14 in the Independence Bowl on Wednesday. Besides beating Missouri from the Big 12, the Razorbacks also defeated Texas this year; giving Nutt wins over two teams that beat Nebraska this year. Broyles gave Nebraska permission to speak with Nutt after Arkansas' victory over Missouri. Nutt said Thursday morning after the victory that he hadn't talked with anyone from Nebraska, but he met with Pederson in Fayetteville on Thursday evening. Nutt has a 48-27 record over six years at Arkansas. He is 84-49 in his 11-year career, which includes four years at Murray State, where he made two trips to the NCAA Division I-AA playoffs, and one year at Boise State. Today's THV and AP Created: 1/2/2004 7:32:21 PM Updated: 1/2/2004 7:33:13 PM __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] No Nutt... or not?
Nutt still mulling NU offer BY ELIZABETH MERRILL WORLD-HERALD BUREAU LINCOLN - With a plane waiting to take him back to Nebraska, and a $2 million offer on the table, Arkansas Coach Houston Nutt was still mulling the Nebraska job Friday evening in Fayetteville. Nothing is settled, Arkansas Athletic Director Frank Broyles said when reached at home Friday night. When asked what was holding things up, Broyles said, His agent. A 6 p.m. press conference was originally scheduled in Arkansas to announce Nutt's decision. But Broyles said negotiations had hit a snag. Nutt was offered a package that is nearly $1 million more annually than Frank Solich's $1.1 million package. Solich was fired on Nov. 29 after a 9-3 regular season. This just in: Nutt still mulling NU offer BY ELIZABETH MERRILL WORLD-HERALD BUREAU LINCOLN - With a plane waiting to take him back to Nebraska, and a $2 million offer on the table, Arkansas Coach Houston Nutt was still mulling the Nebraska job Friday evening in Fayetteville. Nothing is settled, Arkansas Athletic Director Frank Broyles said when reached at home Friday night. When asked what was holding things up, Broyles said, His agent. A 6 p.m. press conference was originally scheduled in Arkansas to announce Nutt's decision. But Broyles said negotiations had hit a snag. Nutt was offered a package that is nearly $1 million more annually than Frank Solich's $1.1 million package. Solich was fired on Nov. 29 after a 9-3 regular season. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harry Boswell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So when is Peterson getting the axe? Maybe you guys can hire Auburn's president to be the AD. - Original Message - From: Thor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 6:06 PM Subject: [weaufx-l] No Nutt From KTHV in Arkansas: Despite a tempting offer, reported to be in the neighborhood of $ 2 million dollars, to be the coach of the University of Nebraska, indications are that Houston Nutt will announce that he will be staying on as head coach of the Arkansas Razorback football team at a 6:00 p.m. press conference. Todays THV will carry that press conference live at 6:00 p.m. The first indication that Nutt may be staying on as Arkansas' coach were reports Friday afternoon that he was calling recruits and telling them he was staying on. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weaufx-l/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Wins!
From: Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Tide beat #15 ranked Wisconsin. Final: Bama - 71 Badgers - 56 Ewe Damn Straight!! and play ON THE ROAD AT Xavier Saturday 1/3/2004 at 2:30 CST on ESPN. Rut Row... ROLL TIDE! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Gooooooooooooooooooooooooo
From: Devonna Snuggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RollTideFan] Go BADGERS IAWTP! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Jobu's score updates...
Donut be fooled people... What he's doin' is woofin' about he fax he is on a string of 9 straight correct picks in the pick'em contest. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] New Years Eve..
I have no desire to stay up until 12 to watch the ball dropping. I'll prolly try a little dropping of my own, (dropping trou that is), about 10PM. Then prolly hit the hay around 10:07. Happy New Year y'all. I hope for a prosperous and healthy one for each and ever one of ewe! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Or did he?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41721-2003Dec30.html Spurrier Denies Resignation Reports By Mark Maske Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, December 30, 2003; 1:22 PM The Washington Redskins announced the resignation of Coach Steve Spurrier today only to have Spurrier deny that he had resigned moments later. I have not resigned, Spurrier said by cellphone. I've got a representative looking into some issues but I have not resigned. If they say that I have, that is not true. I'm not sure it is heading in that direction right now. We are seeing where it goes but I have not resigned. A team source said that Spurrier's new agent, Jimmy Sexton, told the Redskins to issue the news release. In a news release issued early this afternoon, the Redskins said Spurrier had telephoned owner Daniel Snyder and resigned in the best interest of the Redskins franchise. In the release, Snyder said I have accepted Steve's resignation with much regret but respect his decision. The Redskins said in the release that they will begin their search for Spurrier's replacement immediately. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Spurrier...
He's an Option coach. ($1) to rsfc. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] The Little Nation That Cried 'Wolf'....
From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] We just don't know all the facts involved here and have to trust that the people in charge are doing the best they can to prevent a future attack on our innocent civilians. [...] Have you ever herd the phrase 'Sheeple'? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] The Little Nation That Cried 'Wolf'....
Like I'm gonna share! HA HA HA!! kurt From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/29 Mon PM 07:30:17 EST To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] The Little Nation That Cried 'Wolf' Krut, please keep your perversions to ewerslef. Thankee. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] The Little Nation That Cried 'Wolf' From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] We just don't know all the facts involved here and have to trust that the people in charge are doing the best they can to prevent a future attack on our innocent civilians. [...] Have you ever herd the phrase 'Sheeple'? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Deer John Wodziak
You ain't winning. That is all. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] My mom called today.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RollTideFan/files/mom.wav It's a good thing I don't have a dirty mind. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Wins
From: Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Final score: Tide - 101 Bears - 44 Deer Lowered! ROLL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] heh
http://veepers.hanes.com/service/RetrieveCard?id=C89148C8-37BA-11D8-91F8-93801D9ED7CE (sound) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey pickers
7-0 HAND. kurt From: Steven Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/26 Fri PM 06:13:36 EST To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey pickers Damn you Krut. :-) RTR LC --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A prefect 6-0 woof kurt From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/26 Fri PM 02:26:22 EST To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey pickers Right now, I'm 2-4, but I fully expect to be even after today then take the lead after that. Isn't optimism a wonderful thing? - Original Message - From: Steven Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:51 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Hey pickers What is your record so far? I am 4-2 and my son is 4-1. RTR LC __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Deer santa@amazon.com
That PS2 Cabela Deer Hunt' game you sent turned out to be a X-Box game. This was noticed last night during the wrapping phase of Christmas. We donut have a X-Box. Thankee, Yore Helper __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Merry Christmas my RTF Plas!
I wish you and yours much joy. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Ball, Dunn say 'no to Price, UTEP
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031223/NEWS/312230348/1004 Ball, Dunn say 'no to Price, UTEP By Howie Stalwick Special to The Tuscaloosa News December 23, 2003 Mike Price says he hit a home run in his job hunt, but he struck out on his attempt to lure two of his former Alabama assistant coaches to Texas-El Paso. Chris Ball and Kasey Dunn said they are delighted to see Price back in coaching, but they turned down Prices request to assist him at his new job. Were going to stay put in Alabama, Ball said by phone Monday from Springfield, Mo., where his family is visiting his wifes family. Family reasons are the No. 1 reason; not wanting to move the family again, and my wife is pregnant is probably the main reason. Ball, Alabamas secondary coach, followed Price from Washington State to Alabama after the 2002 season. Dunn, Prices assistant head coach at WSU and Alabama, lost his job at Alabama after Price was fired last spring before coaching a game. Dunn was named Texas Christians secondary coach at midseason. TCU is a great job; I wouldnt consider going out there [to El Paso], Dunn said by phone from Fort Worth, where the Horned Frogs will play Boise State tonight in the inaugural Fort Worth Bowl. Mike has been a great friend. On the other hand, so has Gary [TCU coach Gary Patterson]. Price, 57, has said his sons, Eric and Aaron, may join the UTEP coaching staff. Both assisted him at WSU and Alabama, though they were let go by the Crimson Tide after their father was fired. UTEP athletic director Bob Stull, the former Washington associate athletic director and assistant football coach who has been a longtime admirer of Price, said Price will be paid a little more than the $149,350 base salary paid to the fired Gary Nord. The latter reportedly made a total of approximately $200,000 this season, one of the lowest head coaching salaries in I-A football. Price made more than $800,000 in his final year at WSU, and his seven-year contract at Alabama would have averaged $1.7 million per year. Price was fired before coaching a game at Alabama after a night of heavy drinking at a strip club in Florida. [...] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Cubicle decorations...
http://stono.cs.cofc.edu/~kantalad/index.html kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Two LSU players ineligible for Sugar Bowl
Two LSU players ineligible for Sugar Bowl http://www.al.com/sportsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/sports-2/1072196342312410.xml The Associated Press 12/23/2003, 10:14 a.m. CT BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) -- LSU running back Shyrone Carey and long snapper Steve Damen were declared ineligible for the Sugar Bowl because of unspecified rules violations. No. 2 LSU (12-1) will play No. 3 Oklahoma (12-1) for the Bowl Championship Series title on Jan. 4. Carey began the season as one of the team's two main running backs, but his role diminished after he missed four games with a knee injury. Center Ben Wilkerson has been long-snapping in practice and others, including backup Gant Petty, can handle the assignment, coach Nick Saban said. Saban would not disclose what Carey and Damen did, but he said they must understand the consequences of their actions. They've been warned about these types of things in the past. I'm sure they feel worse about it than anybody, Saban said. Everyone else is doing what these kids did. These kids are human beings. They are held to a higher standard and have a lot of rules, relative to what they can and can't do relative to a bowl game. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
