[sage-combinat-devel] Re: The reading tableau of a partition

2013-04-12 Thread Andrew Mathas
Hi Travis,

What confused me is that the example in the documentation seems to say that 
the reading tableau for the *partition* (3,2,1) should be
1 4 6
2 5
3
whereas the example in the doc-test says that it is
1 3 6
2 5
4
These two tableaux are different.

I need the first of these tableaux and I thought that this is what 
reading_tableau() was supposed to return. This isn't a big deal for me 
because I can get this tableau easily a different way. 

All these concerns aside, however, I am still confused by the documentation 
as it the example contained in the help for reading_tableau seems to 
contradict what the function actually does. Notice that this a method for a 
partition which returns a tableau -- there are no permutations in sight 
here.

Andrew

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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Sage notebook server with combinat patches installed

2013-04-12 Thread Anne Schilling
Hi Nicolas,

Cool! Thank you for setting this up! This will be immensely useful to
let people try out code who are not (yet) developers!

Cheers,

Anne

On 4/12/13 1:19 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
>   Dear Sage developers,
> 
> On https://combinat.sagemath.org:8080/
> 
> You will find a publicly accessible notebook server running with the
> Sage-Combinat patches applied. Main use cases: giving access to
> colleagues to your in-development code.
> 
> As the front page says, it's still pretty experimental. In particular
> Sage and Sage-Combinat are updated manually ... when I get to do it ...
> 
> I'll advertise it more widely (in particular on the wiki) when we will
> have beta tested it more.
> 
> Fell free to volunteer to take over the maintenance!
> 
> Cheers,
>   Nicolas
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[sage-combinat-devel] Sage notebook server with combinat patches installed

2013-04-12 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear Sage developers,

On https://combinat.sagemath.org:8080/

You will find a publicly accessible notebook server running with the
Sage-Combinat patches applied. Main use cases: giving access to
colleagues to your in-development code.

As the front page says, it's still pretty experimental. In particular
Sage and Sage-Combinat are updated manually ... when I get to do it ...

I'll advertise it more widely (in particular on the wiki) when we will
have beta tested it more.

Fell free to volunteer to take over the maintenance!

Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: The reading tableau of a partition

2013-04-12 Thread Mark Shimozono
Travis,

Any reasonable definition of reading word of tableau will have the property 
that the result of
inserting the reading word of the tableau, is the original tableau.

So I think there is a problem somewhere here.

--Mark

> Hey Andrew,
>  
> 
> >
> > I have been distracted from sage for quite some time but this morning I 
> > started playing again and I came across the *reading_tableau *method of a 
> > partition. The documentation for this method reads:
> >
> > Return the reading tableau of the reading word under the
> > Robinson-Schensted correspondence of the (standard) tableau `T` 
> > labeled
> > down (in English convention) each column to the shape of ``self``.
> >
> > For an example of the tableau `T`, consider the partition
> > `\lambda = (3,2,1)`, then we have::
> >
> > 1 4 6
> > 2 5
> > 3
> >
> > For more, see :func:`~sage.combinat.rsk.RSK()`.
> >
> > EXAMPLES::
> >
> > sage: Partition([3,2,1]).reading_tableau()
> > [[1, 3, 6], [2, 5], [4]]
> >
> > The example in the text and the example that is doc-test appear to 
> > disagree. My guess is that the example in the text is what is expected. 
> > Is this right?  [In 5.8 the behaviour is as in the doc-test.]
> >
> > This is correct. The documentation is describing the tableau T, which then 
> it takes the reading word (which is [3, 2, 5, 1, 4, 6]), and then runs RSK 
> on that permutation and pulls the reading tableau. While the documentation 
> is not the best, it is accurate (I had to read it a few times myself).
> 
> Best,
> Travis
>  
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[sage-combinat-devel] Re: The reading tableau of a partition

2013-04-12 Thread Travis Scrimshaw
Hey Andrew,
 

>
> I have been distracted from sage for quite some time but this morning I 
> started playing again and I came across the *reading_tableau *method of a 
> partition. The documentation for this method reads:
>
> Return the reading tableau of the reading word under the
> Robinson-Schensted correspondence of the (standard) tableau `T` 
> labeled
> down (in English convention) each column to the shape of ``self``.
>
> For an example of the tableau `T`, consider the partition
> `\lambda = (3,2,1)`, then we have::
>
> 1 4 6
> 2 5
> 3
>
> For more, see :func:`~sage.combinat.rsk.RSK()`.
>
> EXAMPLES::
>
> sage: Partition([3,2,1]).reading_tableau()
> [[1, 3, 6], [2, 5], [4]]
>
> The example in the text and the example that is doc-test appear to 
> disagree. My guess is that the example in the text is what is expected. 
> Is this right?  [In 5.8 the behaviour is as in the doc-test.]
>
> This is correct. The documentation is describing the tableau T, which then 
it takes the reading word (which is [3, 2, 5, 1, 4, 6]), and then runs RSK 
on that permutation and pulls the reading tableau. While the documentation 
is not the best, it is accurate (I had to read it a few times myself).

Best,
Travis
 

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