[sage-devel] Re: reST on the sage wiki?

2008-01-07 Thread Timothy Clemans

Sage comes with Moin Moin so I thought maybe docutils was installed
with the sage.math system install of Python but wiki.sage.math might
be the Moin Moin in Sage.

On Jan 6, 11:30 pm, Fernando Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 7, 2008 12:28 AM, Timothy Clemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  Are you using the Moin Moin in Sage and if so was thing added to
  Sage's Python?

 This is the page (you can see the unrendered reST and the
 docutils-related error message that Moin prints):

 http://wiki.sagemath.org/days8

 It's the Moin installation at sagemath.org.

 Cheers,

 f
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[sage-devel] Re: anyone with osx 10.4 intel please test this for dvd

2008-01-07 Thread William Stein

On Jan 6, 2008 10:44 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:08 , William Stein wrote:
  On Jan 6, 2008 9:52 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jan 6, 2008, at 21:06 , William Stein wrote:
 [snip]
  Options:
 (1) Add the pure tex files into bdist, or
 (2) Add all of doc-main to bdist (we include sage-main)
 (3) Remove testing the tex files from make check for bdist.
 
  What do you guys think?  I like (2).
 
  It costs a mere 80MB or so, right?  How critical is that size
  difference?
 
  I'd think it a good idea to include at least the primary doc set, or
  maybe just the html set...
 
  The html documentation is included.  It is in SAGE_ROOT/doc/
 
  However, I think the tex files are not in there.

 Neither the tex/pdf nor the html doc appear to be in the .dmg's I
 downloaded.  'sage-bdist' certainly *looks* like it should copy it,
 but there is no 'html' in $SAGE_ROOT.

 Here's what I see:

 $ ls
 COPYING.txt examples
 matplotlibrctest.log
 README.txt  install.log
 sagetmp
 dataipython sage-2.9.1.txt
 devel   local   sage-README-osx.txt
 example.sagemakefilespkg

 $ find . -name html
 ./local/LIB/r/doc/html
 ./local/LIB/r/src/gnuwin32/fixed/html
 ./local/share/maxima/5.13.0/doc/html
 ./local/share/maxima/5.13.0/xmaxima/html
 ./local/share/moin/htdocs/applets/FCKeditor/_samples/html

OK, then this is definitely a bug, unless Josh messed something
up in making the dmg.  I've made this trac 1708:

http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1708

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[sage-devel] Re: anyone with osx 10.4 intel please test this for dvd

2008-01-07 Thread Joshua Kantor

Even in the original dmg that I used to make my dmg, there were no tex
files.
In devel there was only sage and sage-main, no doc and doc-main.

 
Josh

On Jan 7, 1:01 am, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 6, 2008 10:44 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





  On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:08 , William Stein wrote:
   On Jan 6, 2008 9:52 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Jan 6, 2008, at 21:06 , William Stein wrote:
  [snip]
   Options:
  (1) Add the pure tex files into bdist, or
  (2) Add all of doc-main to bdist (we include sage-main)
  (3) Remove testing the tex files from make check for bdist.

   What do you guys think?  I like (2).

   It costs a mere 80MB or so, right?  How critical is that size
   difference?

   I'd think it a good idea to include at least the primary doc set, or
   maybe just the html set...

   The html documentation is included.  It is in SAGE_ROOT/doc/

   However, I think the tex files are not in there.

  Neither the tex/pdf nor the html doc appear to be in the .dmg's I
  downloaded.  'sage-bdist' certainly *looks* like it should copy it,
  but there is no 'html' in $SAGE_ROOT.

  Here's what I see:

  $ ls
  COPYING.txt examples
  matplotlibrctest.log
  README.txt  install.log
  sagetmp
  dataipython sage-2.9.1.txt
  devel   local   sage-README-osx.txt
  example.sagemakefilespkg

  $ find . -name html
  ./local/LIB/r/doc/html
  ./local/LIB/r/src/gnuwin32/fixed/html
  ./local/share/maxima/5.13.0/doc/html
  ./local/share/maxima/5.13.0/xmaxima/html
  ./local/share/moin/htdocs/applets/FCKeditor/_samples/html

 OK, then this is definitely a bug, unless Josh messed something
 up in making the dmg.  I've made this trac 1708:

 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1708
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[sage-devel] Re: anyone with osx 10.4 intel please test this for dvd

2008-01-07 Thread Justin C. Walker


On Jan 7, 2008, at 01:01 , William Stein wrote:


 On Jan 6, 2008 10:44 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
 Neither the tex/pdf nor the html doc appear to be in the .dmg's I
 downloaded.  'sage-bdist' certainly *looks* like it should copy it,
 but there is no 'html' in $SAGE_ROOT.
[snip]
 OK, then this is definitely a bug, unless Josh messed something
 up in making the dmg.  I've made this trac 1708:

 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1708

I just did a '-bdist' of a full-build install of 2.9.2.

The result has the doc directory, but there is no html directory in  
$SAGE_LOCAL of the built 'bdist'.

Not sure what that means...

Justin

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Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds

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You're not paying attention





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[sage-devel] Re: a video clip from the AMS meeting (right before we got mathdotted).

2008-01-07 Thread mabshoff



On Jan 7, 5:20 am, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 See

  http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/ams/

 in particular the file MVI_0841.AVI

Nice, any more of those coming? I wonder what the Nail  Cuticle
people had to sell at a math congress?

 We gave away all 40 tutorials and DVD within an hour
 of the exhibit booth opening.   We'll have more tomorrow.
 It was pretty intense...

Nice. Let's hope for the best.

  -- William

Cheers,

Michael

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[sage-devel] Singular bugs: #1703, #1705 on trac.sagemath.org, gcc 4.3 compilation

2008-01-07 Thread mabshoff

Hello Singular team,

we came across two bugs and the gcc 4.3 compilation issue in the
latest Singular code basis that we ship with Sage 2.9.3.

The first bug is #1703: one mpz is leaked in longrat.cc triggered by
linear_code.py

See:  http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1703

Valgrind reports:

==32468==at 0x4A1BB35: malloc (vg_replace_malloc.c:207)
==32468==by 0x6160C87: __gmpz_init (in /tmp/Work-mabshoff/release-
cycle/sage-2.10.alpha0/local/lib/libgmp.so.3.4.1)
==32468==by 0x128B87AF: nlNormalize(snumber*) (longrat.cc:1147)
==32468==by 0x128DBE70: p_Normalize(spolyrec*, sip_sring*)
(polys.cc:800)

I tracked this down to void nlNormalize (number x) in longrat.cc.
The patch named Singular-3-0-4-2-fix-longrat.cc-mpz-leak.patch 
attached to the ticket fixes the issue for me. The rebuild Singular
does not have the leak any more and valgrind does not report any issue
when running the same doctest. Our test suite also passes. I assume we
exposed the issue by hooking the GMP allocator so that it ends up
using standard malloc, so that valgrind actually catches it. mmap
based omalloc allocations are completely ignored/not tracked by
valgrind. The code and the patch is simple enough to actually see that
the mpz isn't freed in that code path.

The second bug is #1705: factorization of polynomials over non-prime
finite fields is TOTALLY BROKEN in Sage (and Singular?!)

See  http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1705

This was confirmed with the official Singular binary by Martin
Albrecht:

 ring r = (3,a),(x,y),dp;
 minpoly = a^2 + 2*a + 2;
 poly f = (x-a)*(y-a);
 factorize(f);
[1]:
   _[1]=1
   _[2]=xy+(-a)*x+(-a)*y+(a+1)
[2]:
   1,1

For all details also check out http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1705
- we do not have a solution for that issue and as far as I am aware
nobody has attempted to track this down yet.

gcc 4.3 compilation: I emailed a while ago about a patch that makes
Singular compile with the current gcc 4.3 snapshot. I never heard
back. So is there interest for that one, too? Ismail Dönmez from
Pardus [a turkish linux distribution] ended up coding up the same
patch in parallel with me which is nearly identical with my solution,
so I guess the best thing is that we should share credit for that one.
It is available from

http://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/devel/programming/libs/singular/files/gcc-4.3.patch

Let me know if there are any more questions or comments.

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-devel] Re: First Sage Screencast

2008-01-07 Thread David Joyner

Did you try vlc?

On Jan 7, 2008 2:04 AM, TimDaly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm unable to view this using RealPlayer, Quicktime, or mplayer on
 XP, OSX, or Linux. None of the sites have the codec available.
 Any idea where I can find the codec for one of these tools?

 Tim

 On Jan 7, 12:11 am, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jan 6, 2008 11:07 AM, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
   Timothy wrote:
 
GHOP (Google Highly Open Participation Contest) contestant Benjamin
Peterson created a 20 minute screencast introducing Sage. He followed
my guidelines to a tea, 
seehttp://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-psf/issues/
Currently the best quality version released so far is at
   http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tclemans/video/ghop/sage-screenc

 
   The screencast was excellent!  I am going to use it immediately by
   making it available on my University's network and then sending out a
   mass email about it.
 
  I will put it on the sagemath.org website.  Any recommendations as to where?
 
  William
 


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[sage-devel] Re: First Sage Screencast

2008-01-07 Thread Harald Schilly



On Jan 7, 8:23 am, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family

libavcodec is more or less the default codec of mencoder, which is the
encoding-brother of mplayer. so, this is pretty standard - i think
your download has a problem or your mplayer version is crippled (no
installed/activiated modules).

h
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[sage-devel] Re: a video clip from the AMS meeting (right before we got mathdotted).

2008-01-07 Thread William Stein

On Jan 7, 2008 1:42 AM, mabshoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Jan 7, 5:20 am, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  See
 
   http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/was/ams/
 
  in particular the file MVI_0841.AVI

 Nice, any more of those coming? I wonder what the Nail  Cuticle
 people had to sell at a math congress?

Our best guess is Mathematicians often have their nails messed
up by chalk boards.

They did a nice job polishing my finger nail ;-)

William

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[sage-devel] sage promotional event ideas

2008-01-07 Thread mhampton

In thinking about the sage booth at the jmms this morning, it occured
to me that in the future it might be nice to have sage business cards
- not for any one person but the project as a whole.  The main URL
could be there, and sage-support the email address.  The flyers made
for the jmms are very good for introducing people to sage, but then
they understand and they just need succinct downloading and support
info.

Next year it would also be nice to have mugs and t-shirts for sale.  I
had hoped to help more with that this year and didn't get to it, but I
did experiment a bit with online custom mug ordering.  All we would
need is a volunteer in DC or someone driving to the meetings who could
bring the stuff with them; I'll be flying and I'd rather not transport
a bunch of mugs.

Marshall
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[sage-devel] Re: sage promotional event ideas

2008-01-07 Thread Harald Schilly

From my experience (openoffice booth) one of the things which made the
most fun was a small trivial quiz - and everybody who has filled it
out got a free CD. The quiz for sage could be just 3-5 questions,
around the key-features of sage with easy to guess answers. (how can
you work with sage? 1.commandline 2.in a webbrowser 3.python script
4.all of them ... or who is fastest in calculating partitions of n?
mathematica/maple/sage or magma)
therefore only those people who are really interested get the cd, they
all learn something and it's very easy to start talking about sage.
their time at the booth is longer, therefore more people, more
attractive - and all of them who get the cd will remember sage as the
thing with the funny quiz (and not only the 5 secs when taking the
cd). and it's cheaper than many other maketing things.

h
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[sage-devel] Re: sage promotional event ideas

2008-01-07 Thread David Joyner

I'll be able to drive in with a car, carrying mugs, etc. I wonder how many
t-shirts are sold by vendors, on average?

On Jan 7, 2008 11:50 AM, mhampton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In thinking about the sage booth at the jmms this morning, it occured
 to me that in the future it might be nice to have sage business cards
 - not for any one person but the project as a whole.  The main URL
 could be there, and sage-support the email address.  The flyers made
 for the jmms are very good for introducing people to sage, but then
 they understand and they just need succinct downloading and support
 info.

 Next year it would also be nice to have mugs and t-shirts for sale.  I
 had hoped to help more with that this year and didn't get to it, but I
 did experiment a bit with online custom mug ordering.  All we would
 need is a volunteer in DC or someone driving to the meetings who could
 bring the stuff with them; I'll be flying and I'd rather not transport
 a bunch of mugs.

 Marshall
 


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[sage-devel] Re: First Sage Screencast

2008-01-07 Thread John Cremona

It worked fine for me --kubuntu 7.10, automatically ran the mplayer
plugin for mozilla firefox.  Nice to have a system which just works!

John

On 07/01/2008, Harald Schilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Jan 7, 8:23 am, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family

 libavcodec is more or less the default codec of mencoder, which is the
 encoding-brother of mplayer. so, this is pretty standard - i think
 your download has a problem or your mplayer version is crippled (no
 installed/activiated modules).

 h
 



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[sage-devel] Re: problems building sage documentation

2008-01-07 Thread Pablo De Napoli


I've managed to solve the problem: The package 
texlive-cyrillic (in Debian/Ubuntu) is needed to build the Sage 
documentation.

Pablo

El Tuesday 01 January 2008 21:25:35 Pablo De Napoli escribió:
 When building Sage documentation
 (make in devel/doc), I've got a strange message
 (I quote below the output)

 output

 TEXINPUTS=/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/commontex
: python
 /media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/tools/mkhowto
 --html --about html/stdabout.dat --iconserver ../icons --favicon
 ../icons/pyfav.png --address See ia href=\about.html\About this
 document.../a/i for information on suggesting changes. --up-link
 ../index.html --up-title SAGE Documentation Index --global-module-index
 ../modindex.html --dvips-safe --dir html/ref ref/ref.tex
 +++
 TEXINPUTS=/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/ref:/medi
a/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/commontex:/media/hda2/pab
lo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/paper-letter:/media/hda2/pablo.new_
home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/texinputs: +++ latex ref
 *** Session transcript and error messages are
 in
 /media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/html/ref/ref.how.
 *** Exited with status 1.
 The relevant lines from the transcript are:
 
 +++ latex ref
 This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
  %-line parsing enabled.
 entering extended mode
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/ref/ref.tex
 LaTeX2e 2005/12/01
 Babel v3.8h and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang,
 noh
 yphenation, spanish, catalan, galician, spanish, catalan, galician, loaded.
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/texinputs/manual.c
ls Document Class: manual 1998/03/03 Document class (Python manual)
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/texinputs/pypaper.
sty)

 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/texinputs/fancybox
.sty Style option: `fancybox' v1.3 2000/09/19 (tvz)
 ) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/report.cls
 Document Class: report 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size12.clo))
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/texinputs/fancyhdr
.sty )
 Using fancier footers than usual.

 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/texinputs/fncychap
.sty )
 Using fancy chapter headings.
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/texinputs/python.s
ty (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/tools/longtable.sty)
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/tools/verbatim.sty)
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty
 (/etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg)
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/dvips.def)
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/dvipsnam.def
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/textcomp.sty
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/ts1enc.def))
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/amsmath/amsmath.sty
 For additional information on amsmath, use the `?' option.
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/amsmath/amstext.sty
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/amsmath/amsgen.sty))
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/amsmath/amsbsy.sty)
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/amsmath/amsopn.sty))
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/commontex/macros.t
ex (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/tools/xspace.sty))
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/commontex/boilerpl
ate. tex
 (/media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/commontex/patchlev
el.t ex))
 Writing index file ref.idx
 (./ref.aux) (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/ts1cmr.fd)
 No file OT2cmr.fd.

 ! LaTeX Error: This NFSS system isn't set up properly.

 See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
 Type  H return  for immediate help.
  ...

 l.28 \begin{document}

 ?
 ! Emergency stop.
  ...

 l.28 \begin{document}

 No pages of output.
 Transcript written on ref.log.
 *** Session transcript and error messages are
 in
 /media/hda2/pablo.new_home/sage/sage-2.9/devel/doc-main/html/ref/ref.how.
 *** Exited with status 1.
 make: *** [html/ref/ref.html] Error 1

 /output

 Any idea of what might be happening?
 It seems to be a bug in my tex instalation rather than a bug in Sage
 (I'm using texlive from Ubuntu Gutsy)

 Pablo



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[sage-devel] Re: Enthought mayavi2 as a library

2008-01-07 Thread Jaap Spies

Fernando Perez wrote:
 On Jan 6, 2008 7:12 AM, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My question: Is there a better way to pass the argument -wthread to 
 ipython?
 
 All that argument does is force some special casing of the starting
 class in IPython.Shell.  You can achieve the same effect with
 
 import IPython
 IPython.Shell.IPShellWX().mainloop()
 

Nice, but when I want to leave sage with ctrl-D (twice!) I get a segmentation 
fault:

sage:
Exiting SAGE (CPU time 3m22.43s, Wall time 328m18.82s).
Closing threads... Done.

sage: /home/jaap/downloads/sage-2.9.2/local/bin/sage-sage: line 210:  4746 
Segmentation fault  sage-ipython -c $SAGE_STARTUP_COMMAND; $@
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sage-2.9.2]$

Any idea?

Jaap


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[sage-devel] Re: Enthought mayavi2 as a library

2008-01-07 Thread Fernando Perez

On Jan 7, 2008 2:09 PM, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nice, but when I want to leave sage with ctrl-D (twice!) I get a segmentation 
 fault:

 sage:
 Exiting SAGE (CPU time 3m22.43s, Wall time 328m18.82s).
 Closing threads... Done.

 sage: /home/jaap/downloads/sage-2.9.2/local/bin/sage-sage: line 210:  4746 
 Segmentation fault  sage-ipython -c $SAGE_STARTUP_COMMAND; $@
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sage-2.9.2]$

 Any idea?

Not without a gdb backtrace, no... Can you provide one please?

Cheers,

f

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[sage-devel] Re: Enthought mayavi2 as a library

2008-01-07 Thread Jaap Spies

Fernando Perez wrote:
 On Jan 7, 2008 2:09 PM, Jaap Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sage: /home/jaap/downloads/sage-2.9.2/local/bin/sage-sage: line 210:  4746 
 Segmentation fault  sage-ipython -c $SAGE_STARTUP_COMMAND; $@
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sage-2.9.2]$

 Any idea?
 
 Not without a gdb backtrace, no... Can you provide one please?
 

To be honnest I've no clue how to do that.

I used to do:

gdb prog core

but how do I proceed here?

Jaap


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[sage-devel] SAGE 2.10.alpha0 released

2008-01-07 Thread mabshoff

Hello folks,

and a new merge cycle has been opened. Every time I finish one they
pull me back in again ;)

Anyways, tarball is in

http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mabshoff/release-cycles-2.10/

Inside that directory you see another directory alpha0 which contains
all updated spkgs as well as all patches. So that way you can keep an
eye on development and just grab patches and spkgs as they get merged.
Once I start alpha1 expect that directory to appear there, too.

As usual I will ask people to do reviews and fix open bugs. Come on
over to the tracker and do your best. alpha0 was mostly about mem leak
fixes, I did discover a whole bunch of new ones when I did an audit
with the help of valgrind of 2.9.3 and with the help of various people
(see below) we fixed a whole bunch of them. We are getting to the
point where the number of known leaks is going toward zero, the main
culprit at the moment is Givaro.

As usual let us know about any issue you encounter. I am catching some
sleep now - see you in the morning.

Cheers,

Michael

Merged in alpha0:

#1092: Willem Jan Palenstijn, Michael Abshoff: small memleaks exposed
   by ntl_ZZ_pE
#1093: Michael Abshoff, Willem Jan Palenstijn: small memleaks exposed
   by ntl_ZZ_pX.py
#1541: Burcin Erocal: improve PolyBoRi integration
#1544: David Joyner, Rich Morin: SAGE Tutorial nits #2
#1553: Kiran Kedlaya, Michael Abshoff: SCons related build failure
   of PolyBoRi on 64-bit RHEL5
#1598: Martin Albrecht: fix SIGSEGV in libSINGULAR interface on
   Solaris
#1694: Michael Abshoff, Bill Hart: Update FLINT to 1.05 release
#1701: Martin Albrecht: attempt to clean up currRing if deallocated
#1702: Martin Albrecht: fix memleak in fplll.pyx
#1703: Michael Abshoff: memleak in Singular: one mpz is leaked in
   longrat.cc
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[sage-devel] gp2c package for sage

2008-01-07 Thread Pablo De Napoli

Hi,

I've working in ticket #258 (integrating gp2c into sage)
I've created a gp2c package (that requieres a minor modification in the 
pari spkg so that pari.cfg file gets installed properly, as described 
in the ticket)

Even though it remains to do the integration with sage, you might want to 
include as an experimental spkg in the next release (gp2c and gp2c-run 
already work)
 
I will continue to work in the integration with Sage, but no promises since I 
guess that this part might be more difficult :). 

best regards,
Pablo

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[sage-devel] Wiris -- something like the Sage notebook sort of

2008-01-07 Thread William Stein

Hi,

Today at the AMS meeting Tom Boothby and I had a long talk with the
people at the Wiris Booth:
   http://www.wiris.com/
Wiris is a closed source commercial math software company that makes a
web-based interface
to their own custom mathematical software.They ended the
discussion by telling us that their
web-based interface is (going to be) much better than ours.

It would be good for you to take a look at what Wiris does if you are
interesed in
the Sage notebook.Ted Kosan, you might particularly find Wiris
interesting since
it is a 100% java app instead of javascript.

William

-- 
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Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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[sage-devel] Re: Wiris -- something like the Sage notebook sort of

2008-01-07 Thread mhampton

Pretty slick, although I wonder about the flash demos - all the
calculations were instantaneous.  Maybe it really is that fast, since
none of the calculations were very hard.  If so, it would be
impressive.

Eventually having a palette interface for sage would be cool but seems
like a lot of work.

Marshall

On Jan 7, 10:35 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Today at the AMS meeting Tom Boothby and I had a long talk with the
 people at the Wiris Booth:
http://www.wiris.com/
 Wiris is a closed source commercial math software company that makes a
 web-based interface
 to their own custom mathematical software.They ended the
 discussion by telling us that their
 web-based interface is (going to be) much better than ours.

 It would be good for you to take a look at what Wiris does if you are
 interesed in
 the Sage notebook.Ted Kosan, you might particularly find Wiris
 interesting since
 it is a 100% java app instead of javascript.

 William

 --
 William Stein
 Associate Professor of Mathematics
 University of Washingtonhttp://wstein.org
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[sage-devel] Re: Wiris -- something like the Sage notebook sort of

2008-01-07 Thread Ted Kosan

William wrote:

 It would be good for you to take a look at what Wiris does if you are
 interested in the Sage notebook.

Here is a direct link to the demo applet.  Just click the link, wait a
bit for the applet to load, and then play with it.

http://www.wiris.com/applets/CAS/en/cas_1_en.htm



 Ted Kosan, you might particularly find Wiris interesting since
 it is a 100% java app instead of javascript.
...
They ended the discussion by telling us that their web-based
interface is (going to be) much better than ours.

The Wiris notebook Applet seems to provide a good opportunity to
discuss notebook strategy.

I like the AJAX notebook. But my position is that an AJAX-based
notebook that is so good it pushes the limits of what AJAX can do
would still be no where near as capable as a well-written Java
Applet-based notebook.  I think Java is at least an order of magnitude
more capable than Javascript is and I don't see this changing anytime
soon.  Execute the following two blocks of code in separate worksheet
cells for a further  demonstration of this:

#GUI widgets.
html('applet id=mathrider\
code=SwingSetApplet\
width=695 height=525\
codebase=http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tkosan/mathrider/SwingSet/\
archive=SwingSet.jar MAYSCRIPT/applet')

#2D graphics.
html('applet id=mathrider\
code=Java2DemoApplet.class\
width=695 height=525\
codebase=http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/tkosan/mathrider/Java2D/\
archive=Java2Demo.jar MAYSCRIPT/applet')


So, if people want a notebook that can do everything the current
notebook can do, plus is capable of doing everything that the Wiris
notebook can do (and the Mathematica notebook for that matter), Java
is the technology for the job for the foreseeable future :-)

Ted

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[sage-devel] Re: Wiris -- something like the Sage notebook sort of

2008-01-07 Thread Francois



On Jan 8, 7:00 pm, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 William wrote:
  It would be good for you to take a look at what Wiris does if you are
  interested in the Sage notebook.

 Here is a direct link to the demo applet.  Just click the link, wait a
 bit for the applet to load, and then play with it.

 http://www.wiris.com/applets/CAS/en/cas_1_en.htm


And it is supposed to work with what? On Linux I get a blank page with
firefox and konqueror - opera just went and crashed.
I certainly won't take seriously a product of that kind, that I cannot
test on Linux.
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[sage-devel] Re: Wiris -- something like the Sage notebook sort of

2008-01-07 Thread Fernando Perez

On Jan 8, 2008 12:13 AM, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And it is supposed to work with what? On Linux I get a blank page with
 firefox and konqueror - opera just went and crashed.
 I certainly won't take seriously a product of that kind, that I cannot
 test on Linux.

FWIW, it worked for me under Ubuntu Gutsy with firefox...

I did notice one neat thing it had: the represent() command, which
does the kind of nice plot that Ondrej was recently referring to (take
a function and plot it with asymptotes, critical points, etc, with a
single command that figures the whole thing out).

Cheers,

f

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[sage-devel] Re: Wiris -- something like the Sage notebook sort of

2008-01-07 Thread Francois



On Jan 8, 8:22 pm, Fernando Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Jan 8, 2008 12:13 AM, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FWIW, it worked for me under Ubuntu Gutsy with firefox...

Strange it definitely just stay blank for me. I am using the plugin
from the
sun jdk 1.6, do you use 1.5 or 1.6 in Ubuntu?
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[sage-devel] Re: Wiris -- something like the Sage notebook sort of

2008-01-07 Thread William Stein

On Jan 7, 2008 11:42 PM, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Jan 8, 8:22 pm, Fernando Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Jan 8, 2008 12:13 AM, Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FWIW, it worked for me under Ubuntu Gutsy with firefox...
 
 Strange it definitely just stay blank for me. I am using the plugin
 from the
 sun jdk 1.6, do you use 1.5 or 1.6 in Ubuntu?

I'm using OSX 10.5.1 on a standard mac laptop, and I just
get a blank screen too.

William

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