Re: Moment of truth
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 00:18:26 -, "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: I have 3 or 4 complete ones somewhere and loads of bits. > 2) Does it work? Last time I looked they did. > 3) Do you still use it? no :-( > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? dozens > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Not to acquire, but am interested in knowing what's out there. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? No - I'm not a games player type of guy. > 7) What price would be right if you would? Free :-) > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? A non games title perhaps. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? possibly > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? All of life is a waste of time, so let us waste it was we see fit. > 11) if yes to 10 then why? see 10. > -- Nev - please note that mail to nevilley@ will no longer work.
Re: Moment of truth
- Original Message - From: "Stewart Skardon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: RE: Moment of truth > >2) Does it work? > Three function perfectly, and one has a dodgy TV output. Do you want to sell this one at all Pls? Thanks!
RE: So long 2002, here comes 2003....
As I'm in an emailing mood... Geoff Winkless wrote: > Perhaps there's a localised group of Sam owners here in Leicestershire Another Leicester-based Sam owner here! :-) Dave.
Re: Moment of truth
> 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes > 2) Does it work? Last time I tried - Yes. > 3) Do you still use it? No > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Half a dozen games, a couple of bits of utility, lots of Fred > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? No > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? No > 7) What price would be right if you would? N/A > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Probably not > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Probably not (though more likely than 8) > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? No Tim
RE: Moment of truth
> Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes. > 2) Does it work? Yes. > 3) Do you still use it? Not really. Once or twice a year maybe. Simcoupe has made me lazy. > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Several of the commercial games (although some shameful omissions), FREDs from 57 onwards, loads of Soundbytes and other Quazar related stuff (Colin - I /will/ resubscribe eventually, honest...) and a few odds and sods. > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Not really. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Possibly. > 7) What price would be right if you would? Well it's not going to happen very often so it probably wouldn't matter. > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Probably not. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? I would help develop something, yes. Probably only with programming though. > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? > 11) if yes to 10 then why? Most likely, but that doesn't mean I would want it to end. :-) Dave Laundon.
RE: Moment of truth
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yup, a few - maybe two or three. 2) Does it work? Yes. 3) Do you still use it? Nope - use Sim coupe once in a while though. 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Most of them I think. And I'll back up Mr Skardon's claim ;) 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? No - but keep an interest in what's going on. Hence replying to this... 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Price wouldn't matter - if it was interesting then I'd get it. 7) What price would be right if you would? N/A 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Would love to do something, ressurrect Fred or similar, but only if I didn't have to work for a living as well! 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Same. 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? Nope - fully agree with ChrisW, if people want to do it, great. 11) if yes to 10 then why? Just curious :D
Re: Moment of truth
In a message dated 1/15/03 12:19:54 AM GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes 2) Does it work? Not sure yet im using simcoupe 3) Do you still use it? when finished writing my game i will 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? not many now as they have either got corrupt or lost 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Yes 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Indeed, but would people buy my game if it was good enough ? 7) What price would be right if you would? £5 - 15 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Yes, currently i am 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Yes, unless it was better than my game ;-) 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? Nope we must keep up retro and relive our younger days 11) if yes to 10 then why?
Re: Announcement 2 - SID Interface
> Kewl, my order is on its way :) You must be obsessed with computer music too then! > I knew i kept all those C64's for some reason, just didnt > think it would be for spare parts for the Sam. Finally a good use for a C64 :) (I can really remember the wars between speccy owners and c64 owners - each claiming theirs was the best ... time to duck for cover!) > Keep up the good work. :) Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !
RE: Announcement 2 - SID Interface
Kewl, my order is on its way :) I knew i kept all those C64's for some reason, just didnt think it would be for spare parts for the Sam. Keep up the good work. Adrian. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colin Piggot Sent: 15 January 2003 19:55 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Announcement 2 - SID Interface My second piece of hardware that I am releasing today goes back to my roots with computer audio - this 'SID Interface' started out just as a small pet project for myself exploring old forms of computer sound. The 'SID' is the 3 channel synth shound chip used in the Commodore 64. Because it was so different to the style of the SAA1099 inside the Sam, I decided to wire one up and see how is sounded as the synths it produces are quite different. The SID chip can produce several shapes of waveform - square, triangle and sawtooth, and combined with controllable volume effects such as attack, decay and sustain to shape the sound. Add in a couple of other effects such as noise and ring modulation and the overall sound the SID can produce is quite unique and as a result it is still very popular amoungst computer audiophiles. (There are even interfaces to use them on the PC!) The SID interface plugs into the euroconnector on the back of the Sam, and requires a 12v input to power the SID chip (any 12v PSU that can supply 100mA can be used, I have fitted a standard 2.1mm power socket to the board - A suitable plug top PSU can be bought for around a fiver in places like Argos). A 3.5mm speaker socket is also on the board for connecting some speakers to it. The interface is supplied without a SID chip - you'll have to get your hands on an old C64 and remove the chip (its usually in a socket so very easy to get out). As there are two types of SID (6581 - from the original C64, and the 8580 from the redesigned new-look C64) the interface has to be built up specifically for the chip that is going to be fitted. Please state which chip you have when ordering. I do have a couple of 6581 SID's from old C64's which I bought when designing this hardware, and I can supply you with one if required and I can easily track down some more C64's for more. I have put together two disks to go with the SID Interface, featuring a couple famous tunes from the C64 to show off the SID chip in action. The SID Interface is available now, priced £28.99. Again piccies can be found on the website. (As a side note - there is an interesting exhibit at the "Game On" exhibition which allowed you to listen to a lot of old computer music - mostly from the C64... the exhibition I think is still at the Royal Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh just now (I went to see it in November)) Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !
Announcement 2 - SID Interface
My second piece of hardware that I am releasing today goes back to my roots with computer audio - this 'SID Interface' started out just as a small pet project for myself exploring old forms of computer sound. The 'SID' is the 3 channel synth shound chip used in the Commodore 64. Because it was so different to the style of the SAA1099 inside the Sam, I decided to wire one up and see how is sounded as the synths it produces are quite different. The SID chip can produce several shapes of waveform - square, triangle and sawtooth, and combined with controllable volume effects such as attack, decay and sustain to shape the sound. Add in a couple of other effects such as noise and ring modulation and the overall sound the SID can produce is quite unique and as a result it is still very popular amoungst computer audiophiles. (There are even interfaces to use them on the PC!) The SID interface plugs into the euroconnector on the back of the Sam, and requires a 12v input to power the SID chip (any 12v PSU that can supply 100mA can be used, I have fitted a standard 2.1mm power socket to the board - A suitable plug top PSU can be bought for around a fiver in places like Argos). A 3.5mm speaker socket is also on the board for connecting some speakers to it. The interface is supplied without a SID chip - you'll have to get your hands on an old C64 and remove the chip (its usually in a socket so very easy to get out). As there are two types of SID (6581 - from the original C64, and the 8580 from the redesigned new-look C64) the interface has to be built up specifically for the chip that is going to be fitted. Please state which chip you have when ordering. I do have a couple of 6581 SID's from old C64's which I bought when designing this hardware, and I can supply you with one if required and I can easily track down some more C64's for more. I have put together two disks to go with the SID Interface, featuring a couple famous tunes from the C64 to show off the SID chip in action. The SID Interface is available now, priced £28.99. Again piccies can be found on the website. (As a side note - there is an interesting exhibit at the "Game On" exhibition which allowed you to listen to a lot of old computer music - mostly from the C64... the exhibition I think is still at the Royal Museum of Scotland in Edinburgh just now (I went to see it in November)) Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !
RE: Moment of truth
Well, here's my answers incase anyone is interested! >Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > >1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes - 4 to be precise. (2 in the loft and 2 in my room) >2) Does it work? Three function perfectly, and one has a dodgy TV output. >3) Do you still use it? Erm, not at the moment. I simply don't have much free time at the moment. >4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Not sure of exact amounts, but I have a huge chest full of stuff, and I seem to recall purchasing every FRED title available (I'm sure Colin M will back me up if he's reading!) >5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Not really. >6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Obviously, it would depend what genre of game it was. >7) What price would be right if you would? I honestly don't think I would be willing to pay more than ?15.00. >8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? If I could program a SAM in a professional manner then yes, but I've always been more of a publications person! >9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? If someone could find a use for me, yes I think I would. >10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste >of time? No, as there are plenty of people out there who still email me via my site to say 'Wow didn't realise the SAM was still supported'. I've actually managed to get a few people interested again. >11) if yes to 10 then why? > >Just curious :D Bye for now! Stewart http://www.sam-coupe.co.uk
Announcement 1 - Compact Flash Interface
I am pleased to announce my first new piece of hardware of 2003 - Compact Flash Interface. This small adaptor board allows you to use a Compact Flash card with the Atom hard drive interface. I had this idea when the hard drive I use in my 'Sam In A Can' developed a lot of surface errors and corrupt sectors. By using CF cards (which are getting fairly cheap) it provides a great new storage solution instead of hard drives. As CF are essentially IDE, they can be used just like a hard drive with BDOS. I have tested my interface so far using a 32 Meg Samsung CF card (which holds 40 Sam disks worth of data) and a Toshiba 64 Meg CF Card (79 disks worth!). The small interface can easily sit inside the Sam, an ideal place is just behind the bay cover for drive 2 - I am supplying the interface with 4 sticky backed stands so it can be securely mounted inside the Sam. If you require a short IDE cable to keep the cabling neat I can make them up on request. The Compact Flash Interface is available now, priced £19.99. Also available for this interface is an eject button module which clips over the Compact Flash socket to make it easier to eject the Compact Flash. This is available for £4.50 Photos of the interface are on my website - URL below. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !
More new hardware from Quazar....
Well, I said in my 'new year speech' that I would be releasing one or two new bits of hardware for the Sam shortly and I am now pleased to say they are out now! Details follow in the next emails As a quick sidenote, Soundbyte 76 will be out later in the month, and issue four of Sam Revival is due out in mid February. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !
RE: Moment of truth
Might as well join in... > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Not anymore :-( > 2) Does it work? > 3) Do you still use it? Very rarely, by emulator. > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Loads - most of the commercial games, every fred and a load of other stuff (SAM Supp, SCAC etc) > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? No, although I'm interested in what is released > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? No > 7) What price would be right if you would? > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Loads of cacky SCADS games left unfinished in my disc box somewhere - that was the extent of my 'programming knowledge' > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? If it was ideas, fine. Anything technical and I'm lost. > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? Probably, but it's nice that people still care and great to see people still getting use out of the SAM. Nowt wrong with hobbies, as others have said. > 11) if yes to 10 then why? peacelovekisses ___ Johnna Teare w: www.johnnateare.co.uk e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moment of truth
Tobermory wrote: > > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was > > right? > Yes, as many as come out. Marketing tip: I could buy 6 games at £5 > but not one game at £25. It's because I buy on a whim, and £25 is > big enough to save. Sorry Quasar. It's a good job then I don't have any games at £25, or plan to release any near that price! Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !
Re: Moment of truth
Just had a read through the all the mail on the list after returning from work, and I guess it's my turn to answer some of Adrian's questions! > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes... Seven of the little blighters! (plus two extra duff mobos) > 2) Does it work? All do... I have my main sam, one I use for testing hardware on (what I call my 'Borg' Sam has it has had so many modifications and things plugged into it!) , one mobo is in the Sam in a Can, but unfortunately one of the other mobo's soundchip's melted :/ > 3) Do you still use it? I think that is a definite yes! Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ Issue Three of "Sam Revival" Magazine Out Now !
RE: Moment of truth
1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yep. 2) Does it work? It did the last time I turned it on - over a year ago. 3) Do you still use it? See answer to question 2... 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Most of it. 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? No. 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Probably not. 7) What price would be right if you would? See answer to question 6... 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? No. 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? As long as it was only providing advice and not having to do anything that takes longer than 5 minutes... 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? No. 11) if yes to 10 then why? Just curious :D
Re: Moment of truth --> Database?
> This sort of information is great for people who still want to do > stuff community-wise on the SAM. Would SAM Community like to add it > to its original database (I recall the questions were quite > similar??) and publish on its website? It's probably not much use as that was a good 2 or 3 years ago now. Might be more useful if Colin asked his subber's to fill in a similar questionnaire. Gavin
RE: Moment of truth
Here we go -Original Message- From: Adrian Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 January 2003 00:18 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Moment of truth Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes 2) Does it work? Yes 3) Do you still use it? Once a year it comes down from the loft 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Loads 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Now and again 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Possibly 7) What price would be right if you would? £10 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? If I could I would. Get me a C compiler and a Child Minder. 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Definitely 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? No way 11) if yes to 10 then why? Just curious :D ** This e-mail is private and confidential and is for the addressee only. You are prohibited from using, printing, distributing or disseminating it or any information contained in it, save to the intended recipient. **
Re: Moment of truth
- Original Message - From: "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:18 AM Subject: RE: Moment of truth > Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes, 2 of them and some spare parts > 2) Does it work? 1 works, the other one is a bit knackered after almost 12 years. > 3) Do you still use it? Not on a daily basis. > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Dunno, loads.. > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Yes, recently bought the PC keyboard interface from Collin Piggot. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? I guess so, but it is a hard to answer question, if there is a market, i guess i would, but if someone is only going to sell 2 copies at 29.95 pounds . > 7) What price would be right if you would? See the above... > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Martijn and I still develop much idea's, the actual development on the other hand, errhm > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? See the above > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? A complete waste of time, but oh... spending time on the Sam is like a day on the beach. > 11) if yes to 10 then why? See the above. Robert van der Veeke Currently listening to: Battle Royale - OST Tomo: Say "I'm a moron" in English. Kagura: I'm.. a... supaa baka Tomo: Yep, that's right, you are! -- Azumanga Daioh -- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10-1-2003
RE: SDCC - Freeware ANSI C
Yes please -Original Message- From: Tobermory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2003 12:32 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: SDCC - Freeware ANSI C Interest anyone, this? Haven't had much of a chance to look at it yet. -Tob "...a Freeware , retargettable, optimizing ANSI - C compiler. The current version targets the Intel 8051 and the Zilog Z80 based MCUs." http://sdcc.sourceforge.net/ ** This e-mail is private and confidential and is for the addressee only. You are prohibited from using, printing, distributing or disseminating it or any information contained in it, save to the intended recipient. **
Re: Moment of truth --> Database?
This sort of information is great for people who still want to do stuff community-wise on the SAM. Would SAM Community like to add it to its original database (I recall the questions were quite similar??) and publish on its website?
RE: Moment of truth
Andrew C wrote: > Before Ian says anything. Elder siblings, huh? Can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em. Geoff This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com
Re: Moment of truth
> On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 2:03 pm, Andrew Collier wrote: > >> my parent's loft > > Ahem. Sorry - parents' > > Before Ian says anything. > > Andrew Ouch! You'll never get into the Booker Prize shortlist! -H
Re: Moment of truth
On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 2:03 pm, Andrew Collier wrote: > my parent's loft Ahem. Sorry - parents' Before Ian says anything. Andrew -- ---Andrew Collier http://www.intensity.org.uk/ --- -- r<2+ T<4* cSEL dMS hEn/CB
Re[2]: Moment of truth
AB> 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: yup AB> 2) Does it work? yup AB> 3) Do you still use it? sometimes AB> 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? lots AB> 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? yup AB> 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? hmm, maybe AB> 7) What price would be right if you would? no idea AB> 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? hmm AB> 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? sure AB> 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste AB> of time? yes, of course :) AB> 11) if yes to 10 then why? AB> Just curious :D re, comankh.
Re: Moment of truth
> 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes, a couple. > 2) Does it work? One does after a major repair job from Mr Piggot, the other is in need of a little attention, which it will get soon hopefully. > 3) Do you still use it? Yes, it's on my desk and I recently bought a nice little telly for it. I don't use it half as much as I'd like to though. > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Loads. > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Yes indeedy. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was > right? Yes. 7) What price would be right if you would? No idea. At the end of the day, it's not like we've a huge number of things to buy for the SAM anymore (although Colin's doing his best to change that!) so price isn't hugely important. > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? I never had the talent to finish a software project on the SAM and these days I program for Mac OS X and Windows (and possibly RISC OS...). I was sort of thinking of prototyping a game I'm working on, using SAM BASIC. Then I got into the way of thinking that I might just finish a SAM version, if I can get someone to work on the graphics. So I guess the answer is yes. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Doubt I could be much help and doubt I'd have the time. > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive > is a waste of time? Absolutely not. It's like people who complain about prices on eBay - it's the buyer's choice to pay the price and if it's worth the price to him/her, who is to say otherwise? I think it's great that there are still a few people working on the SAM and it seems to me that since Colin's mag started, there's been an increasing interest. Gavin
RE: Moment of truth
> 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yep > 2) Does it work? Yep! > 3) Do you still use it? Yep - every day mate > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? About 30 > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Yes, though I can't afford em. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was > right? Yes, as many as come out. Marketing tip: I could buy 6 games at £5 but not one game at £25. It's because I buy on a whim, and £25 is big enough to save. Sorry Quasar. 7) What price would be right if you would? Less than £10. I think there should be more free code and totally free games. It's more fun than you think. > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Yes, though I'd rather go for lots of little stuff - people's 'projects' are too big for them to cope with. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Just say the word - www.cookingcircle.co.uk, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive > is a waste of time? It's a hobby! Get stuff done but don't get divorced because of it. My dad's a morris dancer. People should stop seeing the SAM as a failed way to make a living, it's a lifestyle choice. You code on 8-bit machines because it's fun, and you'll meet some other geeks. :)
Re: Moment of truth
Adrian Brown wrote: > Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes, three in fact. > 2) Does it work? One of them died some time ago, in an unfortunate incident involving a 27V power supply line. It's sat in my parent's loft at the moment, and every so often it gets a spare part or two swapped out of it. I doubt very much in it works any more. The other two (one of which was Allan Skillman's) are fine, except for my disk drive which seems to have worn out (it sounds like the drive band is slipping, and the drive never quite gets up to speed. If I hold the entire machine vertically, it occasionally manages to load something). The other machine's drive seems fine, but it doesn't want to read any of my disks, even the ones which the other Sam did manage to load (quite happy with ones it formatted itself though). > 3) Do you still use it? Unfortunately I don't really have a lot of spare time, so I haven't used my Sam very much at all in the last couple of years. I ought to take a look at that disk drive though, I want to archive all my Sam disks before they get unreadable by anything else. > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Most of them :) > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Not so much. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? I'm not sure. > 7) What price would be right if you would? Well, these days, a new game is cheap if it costs less than thirty quid... Then again, I don't think a Sam game would be in the same league as what new PC and Mac titles are doing. > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? There is a program which I've started, and would like to finish. Some components of it are already prepared. But there is a different project that I'm working on outside work hours, which is sucking all my spare time at the moment and, to be honest, will be seen and (hopefully) enjoyed by a lot more people. Maybe when I've finished that I'll go back to my Sam project and finish it. But I doubt I'll start another one after that. There are too many different things I'd like to do and I don't have time to start them all. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Is that a leading question? :) I'd be happy to support someone by giving hints and tips, answering questions on this list and such. I don't think I could commit to writing code toward a project. > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a > waste of time? No, I think it's great that people remember the Sam, and although (for me) there are other projects which now take a higher priority, I wish I had more time myself so that I could put into ways to keep the concept of the Sam alive. I think I will always remember it as being the machine which really got me interested (and trained) in programming, and in some ways has had quite a direct effect on the direction my career has taken since. Andrew -- ---Andrew Collier http://www.intensity.org.uk/ --- -- r<2+ T<4* cSEL dMS hEn/CB
RE: Moment of truth
> 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Two of, one main one and a spare to raid for parts. > 2) Does it work? They both do, although I think one of the PSU's is dead now. > 3) Do you still use it? Not really - a lack of desk space has relegated it to the cupboard along with the Atari ST I found in the loft when we moved :-) > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Quite a lot really if you include the PD stuff, plenty of games brought with cash accrued from working at the local shop in the early 90's > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Yeah, sort of - I need to get a subscription to Colin's mag as I could do with re-boxing one of my Sam's (the Sam PSU isn't up to driving everything on it really) but the stumbling block is getting an RGB -> VGA converter, there are plenty of Composite/S-Video converters out there but I really need to use the RGB outputs so that MODE3 8x6 is readable. I imagine you'd only need something to generate a higher sync rate so that the monitor could show it, After a brief search on t'interweb Ive found this gizmo http://www.keene.co.uk/cgi-bin/codesearch.pl?SBBVGA but it's 95 quid :-( But it would mean that I can add it to my desk without having to find room for the extra screen and use my nice shiny Iiyama monitor to boot. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Probably > 7) What price would be right if you would? Dunno, under 20 quid would not cause any problems. > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Not really applicable :-) > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Morally if not actually. > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? Not a chance - so long as there are people who get enjoyment out of the machine or the user base that surrounds it. Dan. -- Dan Dooré Technical Specialist - LAN Direct Line Group Services Direct Line Group Services Limited, registered in England no.3001989, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. The following are also members of the Direct Line group of companies: Direct Line Insurance plc, a member of the General Insurance Standards Council and Direct Line Life Insurance Company Limited and Direct Line Unit Trusts Limited, both regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Loans, Mortgages, Credit Cards and Savings provided by Direct Line Financial Services Limited, registered in England number 2372702, registered office 3 Edridge Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 1AG. All are members of The Royal Bank of Scotland Group. This e-mail is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you should notify us immediately and delete it. You should not copy, print, distribute, disclose or use any part of it. We reserve the right to monitor and record all electronic communications through our networks. We cannot accept any liability for viruses transmitted via this e-mail once it has left our networks.
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- Original Message - From: "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Moment of truth > Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes > 2) Does it work? Last time I powered it up it did > 3) Do you still use it? No > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Lots. Most of the commercial games, several disc boxes of PD stuff, almost all bought from the All Formats Computer Fair in Victoria back when the Sam was new. I did get some from eBay a year or so ago though. A large box of Sam bits and bobs for about 20 quid, included the C compiler :-) > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Not really, although I do occasional search on eBay when I happen to be looking on it and remember. I added an Atom drive, ram upgrade and mouse about 2 years ago when I had a spree of looking at it again, but nothing since. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Probably not. > 7) What price would be right if you would? > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Nope. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Nope. > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? Not at all. The Sam is a small but very interesting part of the UK 8-bit computer era, it's great that people still chat about it and do things with it. > 11) if yes to 10 then why? Cheers, Steve
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Adrian Brown wrote: Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes 2 (with box), and 2 pcb's from which one is working 2) Does it work? Only one has no keyboard problems 3) Do you still use it? Its sitting right next to my C128D, PC and Amiga 4000, and sometimes gets switched on ;-) 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Haven't counted, the disks came with the SAM's I bought. 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Absolutely, I'll buy one of Colins' keyboard adapters soon 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? I might... Depends on the game. 7) What price would be right if you would? €15 maximum... 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? I can't program, sorry. 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? If possible, yes. 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? No, the same could be said for all retro-hardware, how can people's hobbies be a waste? 11) if yes to 10 then why? --- Just curious :D Yes you are! :-p
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Title: RE: Moment of truth >1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes. >2) Does it work? Yes. (though the DD whines) >3) Do you still use it? No! >4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Every single FRED, WATERWORKS 1&2, TNT, SAMPaint, LEMMINGS and some others. >5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? No. >6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? No. >7) What price would be right if you would? N/A >8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? No. >9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Graphically, yes. >10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste >of time? Yes, but none-the-less very admirable and heart-warming. >11) if yes to 10 then why? "Well, duh!" Graham
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> Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: YES > 2) Does it work? YES > 3) Do you still use it? YES > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? 10 or so > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? YES > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? YES > 7) What price would be right if you would? no more then 10 USD > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? NOPE > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? YES > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? NO WAY > 11) if yes to 10 then why? > > Just curious :D > Jorge Canelhas - Are u a retro computing fan ? check : http://www.retroreview.com
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Adrian Brown wrote > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Not sure. (!!) If I could brave the ex-girlfriend's father, probably :) > 2) Does it work? It did last time I saw it. That was about 7 years ago though :) > 3) Do you still use it? No. Play with the emulator sometimes though. > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? As regards paid-for stuff, as many of the Enigma releases as I could afford on my paperround (at the time I felt it was only fair to support any commercial effort) so Defenders Of The Earth, Sphera, Sam Strikes Out (and the game that came with it, can't remember...) then Lerm's SamTape, a few FORMATs and a couple of FREDs, the Sam Newsdisks... Apart from that, stuff I've downloaded from nvg, mainly. > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Nah. > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Nah. > 7) What price would be right if you would? n/a. > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Unlikely. It's a lot of work doing something like that and the scene simply isn't large enough to warrant it. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? It depends. If someone was having a specific problem with coding or an algorithm which I know something about, yes, but I wouldn't, say, take on a chunk of coding in a "project" type way. > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam > alive is a waste of time? No, of course not. If people are interested in it, it's no more a waste of time than any other hobby. Geoff This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com
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Hi Adrian. A very good idea this poll Adrian Brown schrieb: > Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: 2 SAM Coupe (one for replacement parts), one Elite > 2) Does it work? With harddisk(s) and CD-ROM better than any PC :-) > 3) Do you still use it? At the moment daily. And if I work on PC, I hear CDs or MOD files via SAM. > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Masses. PD and Originals. I am a collector. > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Off course... > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? I will and I do, if there are any. As games on Soundbytes, for example. > 7) What price would be right if you would? Depends on the software. > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Yes, but ONLY as PD. The SAM is my hobby, I am an enthusiast. And however - I am not a good programmer and less a grafic artist. > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Why not? I still dream about to create a game after the boardgame "Risk" (if this is known in Britain). > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? Never! It´s waste of time, NOT to support the SAM. And we could reach more, if there were more software stuff for the SAM (in any price class and quality). A computer stands and falls with the ability to get software! > 11) if yes to 10 then why? Maybe because of the endless thinking about how to make money with the "wasted time" > Just curious :D As mentioned, a good idea to ask! Wolfgang Spectrum and SAM Profi Club Cologne
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1) Yes. 2) I beleive so. 3) Not for a long time. 4) A few. Mostly Soundbyte, PD, and Pro-DOS stuff, though. 5) Nope. 6) Probably not, unless it's really something special. 7) Depends on the game 8) Lack of time with a few other out-of-work projects. 9) Depends on the project and personal time. 10) Hell, no. If it keeps people off the streets, and all that... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adrian Brown Sent: 15 January 2003 00:18 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Moment of truth Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: 2) Does it work? 3) Do you still use it? 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? 7) What price would be right if you would? 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? 11) if yes to 10 then why? Just curious :D
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> Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes > 2) Does it work? Yes > 3) Do you still use it? Occasionally, on "retro" evenings/parties > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Loads, mainly PD though > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Not really > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? If it's less than £5, maybe. > 7) What price would be right if you would? <= £5 > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Not unless someone's got a sam C compiler ;) > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? Fraid not - not enough spare time > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? It's admirable, even wacky, but if it keeps a community happy, then it can't really be a waste of time... > 11) if yes to 10 then why? Because the purple frog told us to? > > Just curious :D > > -- _ _ _a' /( <. # Gaz Wilson, aka DragonLord /_/ _ _/ / ` / _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ /_'/_/ /_, / /_||/|/ \(,_(,)' # Info: http://www.dragons.org.uk Catch me with the Dragons. ._>, _>, # Chat: http://www.redclaw.org.uk/
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From: "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: RE: Moment of truth > cant be that bad :) - the worst bit (other than the main chips) is the > keyboard membrane - i use the keyboard interface to solve that problem :D > But there are some good deals pop up now and then :) > > A. It got rather fried with a major power supply problem... and resulted in a lot of cooked chips :( - and no tomato sauce either!
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Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Yes 2 2) Does it work? Yes Both 3) Do you still use it? Nope 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? About 30 Titles 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Nope 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? Nope 7) What price would be right if you would? See above lol 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? Maybe , but would take something I really wanted to do 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? If I could yes 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? No, peeps will do what they want and if it makes them happy so be it 11) if yes to 10 then why? Cause peeps should do what they please with their time Just curious :D
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cant be that bad :) - the worst bit (other than the main chips) is the keyboard membrane - i use the keyboard interface to solve that problem :D But there are some good deals pop up now and then :) A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Sent: 15 January 2003 00:46 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Moment of truth - Original Message - From: "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: RE: Moment of truth > Thanks for the quick reply :D - whats wrong with your sam? Colin Piggot > does repairs, i have a few spares as well. I hate to see a sam go to waste > :D > Mines pretty buggered (technical term - no smarty comments ;) - so a new machine is probably the only safe bet... :( I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for a good deal.
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- Original Message - From: "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: RE: Moment of truth > Thanks for the quick reply :D - whats wrong with your sam? Colin Piggot > does repairs, i have a few spares as well. I hate to see a sam go to waste > :D > Mines pretty buggered (technical term - no smarty comments ;) - so a new machine is probably the only safe bet... :( I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for a good deal.
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Thanks for the quick reply :D - whats wrong with your sam? Colin Piggot does repairs, i have a few spares as well. I hate to see a sam go to waste :D A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Sent: 15 January 2003 00:31 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Moment of truth - Original Message - From: "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:18 AM Subject: RE: Moment of truth > Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Technically yes - but looking for a working one! > 2) Does it work? No - hence above! > 3) Do you still use it? No - see 1+2 - use the emulator a lot however ... will use the real thing more soon! > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Quite a few - some purchased recently! > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Yes! > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? I will ! > 7) What price would be right if you would? Up to 25-30 quid for Chrome! Anything else - on its merits > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? I'm too thick to code... but if i could, i would > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? See 8 > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? Not for those who appreciate it! > 11) if yes to 10 then why? > > Just curious :D
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- Original Message - From: "Adrian Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:18 AM Subject: RE: Moment of truth > Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply > > 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: Technically yes - but looking for a working one! > 2) Does it work? No - hence above! > 3) Do you still use it? No - see 1+2 - use the emulator a lot however ... will use the real thing more soon! > 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? Quite a few - some purchased recently! > 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? Yes! > 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? I will ! > 7) What price would be right if you would? Up to 25-30 quid for Chrome! Anything else - on its merits > 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? I'm too thick to code... but if i could, i would > 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? See 8 > 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste > of time? Not for those who appreciate it! > 11) if yes to 10 then why? > > Just curious :D
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Lets run a little poll. Can people fill in the following and reply 1) Do you have an actual Sam Coupe: 2) Does it work? 3) Do you still use it? 4) How many bits of sam software have you got? 5) Do you still actively seek new sam bits and pieces? 6) Would you buy a new game for the sam coupe if the price was right? 7) What price would be right if you would? 8) Would you develop a title for the sam still? 9) Would you help develop a title for the sam? 10) Do you think that all the work put in to keep the sam alive is a waste of time? 11) if yes to 10 then why? Just curious :D
