Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Who Wants to be a Superhero? Who Cares?!
Yeah, that's about it...Not even a sexy shot of Isabella... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the two decent points of the entire production. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh come on! I loved the lispy dragon... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to add in SciFi's Earthsea. drcsaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather watch Spike TV's Blade and Teresa Graves Vampira back to back --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I forced myself to watch that, I felt absolutely nothing. Now I know where all of my anger went. The sole reason i can fathom for the world being subjected to this is the massive contract that Stan the Man almost certainly had SciFi sign for this. I anticipate more crap on the horizon. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I thought it couldn't get any worse. I didn't think any reality show could be dumber than the is he gay dating show, the midget dating show, the are you my daddy? show. Wife Swap. How wrong I was! While trying take care of some financial business, I turned on the TV for background noise. (That'll teach me to use the boob tube instead of listening to a music CD!) Waiting for Tavis Smiley, I idly surfed by Sci Fi Channel, and watched a few minutes of Stan Lee's Who Wants to Be a Superhero. Man what junk! I can't tell if the participants are really somewhat delusional geeks who take this crap seriously, wannabe actors and stunt people looking for an in into Hollywood, or people who really want to get into the comics industry. It's so dumb: Monkey Woman? Feedback? Nitro G?! Fat Mama??? (And ain't it just perfect that the lone Black person selected is a heavyset Black woman who sings Fat mama?! Well, I guess it's better than if she had on a head rag and started singing Black Mammy or something!) I couldn't decide whether to laugh or gag as a curiously subdued and ham-handed Stan Lee appeared on a TV screen handing out assignments to his would-be heroes, admonishing them about the seriousness of what they're doing. Hell, if Lee hadn't cried Excelsior! at the end of his session, I' barely know it was him! After that it was all downhill, as the contestants had to change from their secret identities into their uniforms, on the street, but out of sight of passersby. Then they ran some stupid-a course while some dopey kid pretended to be lost, screaming help me! all the while. The dweebs who ignored the girl--choosing their assignment over saving a civilian--were the ones chosen to possibly be kicked off. Poor Nitro G! He looked so sad when Lee told him he had to go home! Sniff! Somebody please tell me I missed it, that this is a cleverly self-deprecating piece of pop cultural deconstruction, and that it's actually funny and witty. Tell me I didn't waste twenty minutes of my life on this junk! And tell me one of you will watch it and give us regular updates so I don't have to waste anymore brain cells. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Who Wants to be a Superhero? Who Cares?!
I wouldn't say it was completely lousy... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, pal! In this, you shout to the rooftops about how lousy this is. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay...keeping silent... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be even more afraid, my friend. I sat through part of the repeat last night, waiting for The Boondocks to air on AS, and it only cemented my opinion. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gosh, after what you guys said about the show, I'm really afraid to put my two cents in...at least, based on hgaving the chance to see the last three episodes together... drcsaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather watch Spike TV's Blade and Teresa Graves Vampira back to back --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I forced myself to watch that, I felt absolutely nothing. Now I know where all of my anger went. The sole reason i can fathom for the world being subjected to this is the massive contract that Stan the Man almost certainly had SciFi sign for this. I anticipate more crap on the horizon. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I thought it couldn't get any worse. I didn't think any reality show could be dumber than the is he gay dating show, the midget dating show, the are you my daddy? show. Wife Swap. How wrong I was! While trying take care of some financial business, I turned on the TV for background noise. (That'll teach me to use the boob tube instead of listening to a music CD!) Waiting for Tavis Smiley, I idly surfed by Sci Fi Channel, and watched a few minutes of Stan Lee's Who Wants to Be a Superhero. Man what junk! I can't tell if the participants are really somewhat delusional geeks who take this crap seriously, wannabe actors and stunt people looking for an in into Hollywood, or people who really want to get into the comics industry. It's so dumb: Monkey Woman? Feedback? Nitro G?! Fat Mama??? (And ain't it just perfect that the lone Black person selected is a heavyset Black woman who sings Fat mama?! Well, I guess it's better than if she had on a head rag and started singing Black Mammy or something!) I couldn't decide whether to laugh or gag as a curiously subdued and ham-handed Stan Lee appeared on a TV screen handing out assignments to his would-be heroes, admonishing them about the seriousness of what they're doing. Hell, if Lee hadn't cried Excelsior! at the end of his session, I' barely know it was him! After that it was all downhill, as the contestants had to change from their secret identities into their uniforms, on the street, but out of sight of passersby. Then they ran some stupid-a course while some dopey kid pretended to be lost, screaming help me! all the while. The dweebs who ignored the girl--choosing their assignment over saving a civilian--were the ones chosen to possibly be kicked off. Poor Nitro G! He looked so sad when Lee told him he had to go home! Sniff! Somebody please tell me I missed it, that this is a cleverly self-deprecating piece of pop cultural deconstruction, and that it's actually funny and witty. Tell me I didn't waste twenty minutes of my life on this junk! And tell me one of you will watch it and give us regular updates so I don't have to waste anymore brain cells. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: If you were in a movie...]
I haven't got a clue...I'm a strange character... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terence Howard. And not for his looks. He's still got a way to go to reach my level. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a movie was made about you - let's say your life story - WHO WOULD PLAY YOU IN THE MOVIE? Who do you think would cast well playing YOU? Sound fun? I just saw this question asked in an article I was reading and thought it would be fun for us to write about. Angela Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Groups are talking. Weacute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] MTV 'SNOOP' POOP
MTV 'SNOOP' POOP By PHILIP RECCHIA and SUSANNAH CAHALAN August 6, 2006 -- Media watchdogs are barking over an MTV cartoon that portrays a Snoop Dogg-like character leading two women around on leashes - before scooping up their poop. The new MTV2 animated series Where My Dogs At? satirizes such Hollywood stars as Michael Jackson, Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan. But industry pros are incensed over the portrayal of women and blacks in episode four. The half-hour episode, Woofie Loves Snoop, debuted last month - and until it was removed yesterday, the offending clip was just a click away on MTV.com. Seinfeld's Jason Alexander voices Snoopathon Esquire III, who struts out of his Caddy with Parkay and Marjorie, two bikini-clad black women wearing dog collars and leashes. The rap star orders one to hand me my latte as she squats on all fours and scratches herself like a canine. At the end of the scene, Snoop dons a plastic glove and picks up his enslaved ladies' defecation. This only serves to reinforce negative images of women, conveying to kids on a Saturday afternoon that all women are bitches and hos, said Paul Porter, founder of IndustryEars.com, a watchdog group. In my 10 years of monitoring children's programming, I've never seen anything this offensive. R.E.A.C. Hip-Hop Coalition, a media-justice group, is calling for MTV to ax the misogynistic episode. MTV and Snoop did not return calls seeking comment. But in response to one e-mail sent last week by a parent who holds a high-ranking position at a major media company, MTV wrote: The segment in question is in fact a parody of an appearance Snoop Dogg made where he was accompanied by two women wearing neck collars and chains . . . The goal was to take aim at that incident for its insensitivity and outrageousness. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.thebayindogroup.com/ - Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] The Biology of B-Movie Monsters
This is great, funny stuff! I tend to veer into the can the scifi really work? arena often too. Sometimes one can go to far, as sooner or later you just have to give up and enjoy the ride. For example, I'm not sure that even the article you referenced here mentions that the people in those shrinking movies would keep their full body mass. Shrinking would only compress all the molecules in the body, not disperse them. So if a 165-lb man shrinks to one inch in height, his density is now what? Something like that of lead? Thus, I'd assume one's invulnerabilty would increase with diminished size. Conversely, would one be able to move at all. The article says the Shrinking Man's enhanced metabolism would have him bouncing around, but I wonder if muscles that only fractions of an inch long could move a body with the proportionate weight/volume of a hunk of metal.Would his tendons and ligaments tear? Not to mention, since he'd retain his full weight, he'd basically be breaking every piece of furniture he jumped on. And how does one shrink down to sub-microscopic size and breathe, seeing that the very air molecules are now bigger than one's lungs? I love asking those goofy questions. One reason I get a kick out of Marvel Comics is that they likewise try to bring a serious scientific veneer to their heroes' and villains' powers. DC in the main stays with the attitude that it's all fantasy and we should just go along for the ride. For example, you really never see trully definitive guides explaining much weight Superman can lift, or his upper limit of flying velocity. No major treatises on how Manhunter can shape shift and the like. But Marvel, with its Official Handbooks of the Marvel Universe, is so serious about its stuff it's great. I'm currently reading the latest OHOTMU, and I love reading stuff like Mr. Sinister possesses body-wide control of his molecules, rendering him extremely durable, or The Microverse is entered by the process of shrinking to the sub-molecular level, which generates particles faciliting a transfer across the dimensional boundary, or Cyclops' optic beams are concussive beams of force created by gravitons being forced into orbit around photons. Cyclops' optic nerves access an as-yet unnamed dimension and shunt the energy of that dimension through his eyes.And back to that shrinking issue, Marvel addresses that density/weight problem by saying that people like Hank Pym actually shunt most of their molecules to another dimension. Hence their weight decreases proportionally to their size. Gotta love it! -- Original message -- From: brent wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Biology of B-Movie Monsters http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu/2/21701757/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Dave Chappelle.... next great black leader???]
I never really watched the show, but I can agree with you. A couple of skits I saw weren't offensive in terms of racial(racist) content, but they were in bad taste in terms of being crude. There was one, for example, where Chappelle portrayed some kind of giant creature battling a volcano. Once he put out the flame, he used the cone for personal gratification. The site of him gyrating on a volcano was stupid, not funny, and veered into Wayans' kind of crude graphic humour. It wasn't so much I found the skit offensive as unworthy of his talents. It of course produced lots of easy guffaws from the audience, but it didn't exactly tax his great ability. I think many of the better comedians who come from a place of social consciousness struggle with that line. I know Pryor did, in terms of using nigger for so many years. More power to Chappelle for at least asking the questions. Would that we all were so introspective in our daily lives... -- Original message -- From: Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] That says something to me, about how deeply Chappelle must have been bound to his art, for him to be able to slide that deep into his roles and take this long to come to terms with the realization that he had blurred more than a few lines. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Original Message Subject: Dave Chappelle next great black leader??? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 06:16:21 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] COLUMNIST CINDY ADAMS EXPLAINS CHAPPELLE DRAMA: Writer says comic bolted from Comedy Central series due to guilt. (August 7, 2006) *New York Post columnist Cindy Adams says that Dave Chappelle's sudden exit from his Comedy Central series was rooted in guilt over the show's provocative skits, some of which featured race-related material that he felt may have stepped out of satire and into unintentional coonery. George Richardson, a 70-year-old retiree that was New Jersey's only black member of the state legislature when elected in 1961, tells Adams he befriended Chappelle when the comic was attempting to steer the hip hop community into a positive direction. According to Richardson, Chappelle began moderating roundtable discussions about the issue, and had even made plans to record a benefit single with proceeds going toward disadvantaged youth. People like Kanye West, Wyclef Jean, Doug E. Fresh, Erykah Badu, Russell Simmons, Diddy and Mos Def had reportedly lent support to the ideas. According to Adams, the comedian began to sense that some of his Chappelle's Show skits were not in line with helping the black community. Adams writes: His posse kept reinforcing how great he was, but one day he noticed a white guy laughing at him. Not with him. At him. Chappelle suddenly started saying things like, 'I have to find out am I dancing or shuffling.' On his very last TV show, he played blackface. With a red suit and white lips, Richardson said to Adams. That's when it absolutely clicked in what he was doing. That's when he realized he was 'shuffling.' That's when he walked away from the show. That's when he split for Africa. He almost had a breakdown. He felt he couldn't trust his lawyers, agents, managers, producers, all the people who were loving what he was doing. It dawned on him that, if they're telling me what I'm doing is great, and I know what I'm doing is bad, then I can't trust anybody anymore. He's running away. Sticking to his farm in Yellow Springs, Ohio. Staying hidden from people. He's avoiding all those who were around him. Nobody walks away from Comedy Central and $55 million. What this man did is a profile in courage. He could become a truly great black leader. The TV people are saying things like: 'We know he's got to get himself together.' There's nothing wrong with Dave Chappelle. He is together. That's the message we want to get to him. You are together. And we love you. And support you. And God bless you. And we're here for you. Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
My feeling--and jes' one Black man's opinion--she looked better back in her Fame days. By no means am I against fit women, but the Sister looks better when she lets that naturally curvacious body do its thang. The abs are tight, but cross too far into Fitness Magazine for my tastes. But that's okay. My real problem is Jackson having mutilated her nose years ago as part of that Jackson frenzy to remake theirselves. Her natural God-given nose fit her face better. The thin thing she has now just doesn't do it for me. To me she's gone from beautiful to just very pretty. But then, ain't no one asking me my opinion! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html?PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... --- On the Net: http://www.janet-jackson.com/ http://www.vibe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
We're not stoppin' ya from speaking truth to power, either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling--and jes' one Black man's opinion--she looked better back in her Fame days. By no means am I against fit women, but the Sister looks better when she lets that naturally curvacious body do its thang. The abs are tight, but cross too far into Fitness Magazine for my tastes. But that's okay. My real problem is Jackson having mutilated her nose years ago as part of that Jackson frenzy to remake theirselves. Her natural God-given nose fit her face better. The thin thing she has now just doesn't do it for me. To me she's gone from beautiful to just very pretty. But then, ain't no one asking me my opinion! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html?PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... --- On the Net: http://www.janet-jackson.com/ http://www.vibe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Who Wants to be a Superhero? Who Cares?!
Isn't that the truth? In bed, okay. Sickbed, I don't see quite the same appeal. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that's about it...Not even a sexy shot of Isabella... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the two decent points of the entire production. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh come on! I loved the lispy dragon... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to add in SciFi's Earthsea. drcsaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather watch Spike TV's Blade and Teresa Graves Vampira back to back --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I forced myself to watch that, I felt absolutely nothing. Now I know where all of my anger went. The sole reason i can fathom for the world being subjected to this is the massive contract that Stan the Man almost certainly had SciFi sign for this. I anticipate more crap on the horizon. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I thought it couldn't get any worse. I didn't think any reality show could be dumber than the is he gay dating show, the midget dating show, the are you my daddy? show. Wife Swap. How wrong I was! While trying take care of some financial business, I turned on the TV for background noise. (That'll teach me to use the boob tube instead of listening to a music CD!) Waiting for Tavis Smiley, I idly surfed by Sci Fi Channel, and watched a few minutes of Stan Lee's Who Wants to Be a Superhero. Man what junk! I can't tell if the participants are really somewhat delusional geeks who take this crap seriously, wannabe actors and stunt people looking for an in into Hollywood, or people who really want to get into the comics industry. It's so dumb: Monkey Woman? Feedback? Nitro G?! Fat Mama??? (And ain't it just perfect that the lone Black person selected is a heavyset Black woman who sings Fat mama?! Well, I guess it's better than if she had on a head rag and started singing Black Mammy or something!) I couldn't decide whether to laugh or gag as a curiously subdued and ham-handed Stan Lee appeared on a TV screen handing out assignments to his would-be heroes, admonishing them about the seriousness of what they're doing. Hell, if Lee hadn't cried Excelsior! at the end of his session, I' barely know it was him! After that it was all downhill, as the contestants had to change from their secret identities into their uniforms, on the street, but out of sight of passersby. Then they ran some stupid-a course while some dopey kid pretended to be lost, screaming help me! all the while. The dweebs who ignored the girl--choosing their assignment over saving a civilian--were the ones chosen to possibly be kicked off. Poor Nitro G! He looked so sad when Lee told him he had to go home! Sniff! Somebody please tell me I missed it, that this is a cleverly self-deprecating piece of pop cultural deconstruction, and that it's actually funny and witty. Tell me I didn't waste twenty minutes of my life on this junk! And tell me one of you will watch it and give us regular updates so I don't have to waste anymore brain cells. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [scifinoir2] MTV 'SNOOP' POOP
So, someone's actually watching that crap. Yes, it is offensive to me in the extreme, one of many reasons I avoid the concept of hip and hop like the plague. But there is this thing in place called the Bill of Rights (not for long, if the present administration has anything to say about it), that guarantees morons like the creators of this show the right to broadcast such to their hearts' (and wallets') content/content (former meaning satisfaction, latter meaning amount contained). For all the good, upstanding people who find this offensive, I can offer this one piece of advice. On your remote, there's an off button. Said Kakese Dibinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MTV 'SNOOP' POOP By PHILIP RECCHIA and SUSANNAH CAHALAN August 6, 2006 -- Media watchdogs are barking over an MTV cartoon that portrays a Snoop Dogg-like character leading two women around on leashes - before scooping up their poop. The new MTV2 animated series Where My Dogs At? satirizes such Hollywood stars as Michael Jackson, Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan. But industry pros are incensed over the portrayal of women and blacks in episode four. The half-hour episode, Woofie Loves Snoop, debuted last month - and until it was removed yesterday, the offending clip was just a click away on MTV.com. Seinfeld's Jason Alexander voices Snoopathon Esquire III, who struts out of his Caddy with Parkay and Marjorie, two bikini-clad black women wearing dog collars and leashes. The rap star orders one to hand me my latte as she squats on all fours and scratches herself like a canine. At the end of the scene, Snoop dons a plastic glove and picks up his enslaved ladies' defecation. This only serves to reinforce negative images of women, conveying to kids on a Saturday afternoon that all women are bitches and hos, said Paul Porter, founder of IndustryEars.com, a watchdog group. In my 10 years of monitoring children's programming, I've never seen anything this offensive. R.E.A.C. Hip-Hop Coalition, a media-justice group, is calling for MTV to ax the misogynistic episode. MTV and Snoop did not return calls seeking comment. But in response to one e-mail sent last week by a parent who holds a high-ranking position at a major media company, MTV wrote: The segment in question is in fact a parody of an appearance Snoop Dogg made where he was accompanied by two women wearing neck collars and chains . . . The goal was to take aim at that incident for its insensitivity and outrageousness. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.thebayindogroup.com/ - Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] MTV 'SNOOP' POOP
With all due respect, an MTV show with Jason Alexander doing voices is not hip hop. This show is neither hip, nor hop. Rock, nor roll. It is pop. Disposable. Please don't put that on my culture. Charge that to Viacom. On Aug 8, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Martin Pratt wrote: So, someone's actually watching that crap. Yes, it is offensive to me in the extreme, one of many reasons I avoid the concept of hip and hop like the plague. But there is this thing in place called the Bill of Rights (not for long, if the present administration has anything to say about it), that guarantees morons like the creators of this show the right to broadcast such to their hearts' (and wallets') content/content (former meaning satisfaction, latter meaning amount contained). For all the good, upstanding people who find this offensive, I can offer this one piece of advice. On your remote, there's an off button. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
Yeah, lots of people--such as Tom Joyner--find it hard to believe she dropped 60 pounds *and* got that incredibly cut in such a short time. It's only been maybe two months at most. Even if she did, it's not healthy at all. I know that she's fallen out many times in the past due to exhaustion and poor eating habits. And I know for a fact her workout regimes aren't the best. They're the kind only someone with lots of money should attempt, as you need dedicated nutritionists, cooks, personal trainers, hell--massage therapists! A whole team of people to make sure you don't kill yourself. No matter what anyone says, losing weight and getting fit is a slow process, and losing about 2.5 pounds a week is a realistic and practical standard. Any more than that--which is the Hollywood way--can be dangerous. One of the things that bothers me in modern society is the obssession with being too slim and impossiby fit. Now Jackson looks good--and thank God she has a Black butt that won't go away!--but so many actresses and entertainers are working themselves out to look like emaciated skeletons. I hate the message that sends to young girls. Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriously, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... --- On the Net: http://www.janet-jackson.com/ http://www.vibe.com [Non-text portions of this message have
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Who Wants to be a Superhero? Who Cares?!
Who's Isabella? -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, that's about it...Not even a sexy shot of Isabella... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the two decent points of the entire production. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh come on! I loved the lispy dragon... Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot to add in SciFi's Earthsea. drcsaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather watch Spike TV's Blade and Teresa Graves Vampira back to back --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I forced myself to watch that, I felt absolutely nothing. Now I know where all of my anger went. The sole reason i can fathom for the world being subjected to this is the massive contract that Stan the Man almost certainly had SciFi sign for this. I anticipate more crap on the horizon. Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I thought it couldn't get any worse. I didn't think any reality show could be dumber than the is he gay dating show, the midget dating show, the are you my daddy? show. Wife Swap. How wrong I was! While trying take care of some financial business, I turned on the TV for background noise. (That'll teach me to use the boob tube instead of listening to a music CD!) Waiting for Tavis Smiley, I idly surfed by Sci Fi Channel, and watched a few minutes of Stan Lee's Who Wants to Be a Superhero. Man what junk! I can't tell if the participants are really somewhat delusional geeks who take this crap seriously, wannabe actors and stunt people looking for an in into Hollywood, or people who really want to get into the comics industry. It's so dumb: Monkey Woman? Feedback? Nitro G?! Fat Mama??? (And ain't it just perfect that the lone Black person selected is a heavyset Black woman who sings Fat mama?! Well, I guess it's better than if she had on a head rag and started singing Black Mammy or something!) I couldn't decide whether to laugh or gag as a curiously subdued and ham-handed Stan Lee appeared on a TV screen handing out assignments to his would-be heroes, admonishing them about the seriousness of what they're doing. Hell, if Lee hadn't cried Excelsior! at the end of his session, I' barely know it was him! After that it was all downhill, as the contestants had to change from their secret identities into their uniforms, on the street, but out of sight of passersby. Then they ran some stupid-a course while some dopey kid pretended to be lost, screaming help me! all the while. The dweebs who ignored the girl--choosing their assignment over saving a civilian--were the ones chosen to possibly be kicked off. Poor Nitro G! He looked so sad when Lee told him he had to go home! Sniff! Somebody please tell me I missed it, that this is a cleverly self-deprecating piece of pop cultural deconstruction, and that it's actually funny and witty. Tell me I didn't waste twenty minutes of my life on this junk! And tell me one of you will watch it and give us regular updates so I don't have to waste anymore brain cells. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
I remember back in the days of the Rhythmn Nation album Just before then Jackson was really big for a while, then had lost a lot of weight. Remember she did one video all in black and white, wearing jeans and a black tee shirt, and she danced on chairs and stuff? The Sister was looking good! She had the legs and hips lots of Brothers like. Right after that I read an interview with her where she said she was embarrassed by her big butt and big legs. She went on to say that she tried to hide her legs especially. I was sad to read that, because she wasn't fat, was obviously in great shape as evidenced by her dance moves. But there she was, the epitome of African beauty, ashamed of her legs and butt. Later on she emerged with the first of the ultra-cut bodies that she'd have over the years. Again, I ain't hatin' on women who want to be fit, but it saddens me when so many women try to get rid of their God-given blessings because society's tastes have changed so drastically. And the n what happens when Sisters try to hide their assets? Someone like Jennifer Lopez gets credited for making full bottoms something to be celebrated and accepted. -- Original message -- From: Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're not stoppin' ya from speaking truth to power, either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling--and jes' one Black man's opinion--she looked better back in her Fame days. By no means am I against fit women, but the Sister looks better when she lets that naturally curvacious body do its thang. The abs are tight, but cross too far into Fitness Magazine for my tastes. But that's okay. My real problem is Jackson having mutilated her nose years ago as part of that Jackson frenzy to remake theirselves. Her natural God-given nose fit her face better. The thin thing she has now just doesn't do it for me. To me she's gone from beautiful to just very pretty. But then, ain't no one asking me my opinion! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html?PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... --- On the Net: http://www.janet-jackson.com/ http://www.vibe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
Preachify, brother! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember back in the days of the Rhythmn Nation album Just before then Jackson was really big for a while, then had lost a lot of weight. Remember she did one video all in black and white, wearing jeans and a black tee shirt, and she danced on chairs and stuff? The Sister was looking good! She had the legs and hips lots of Brothers like. Right after that I read an interview with her where she said she was embarrassed by her big butt and big legs. She went on to say that she tried to hide her legs especially. I was sad to read that, because she wasn't fat, was obviously in great shape as evidenced by her dance moves. But there she was, the epitome of African beauty, ashamed of her legs and butt. Later on she emerged with the first of the ultra-cut bodies that she'd have over the years. Again, I ain't hatin' on women who want to be fit, but it saddens me when so many women try to get rid of their God-given blessings because society's tastes have changed so drastically. And the n what happens when Sisters try to hide their assets? Someone like Jennifer Lopez gets credited for making full bottoms something to be celebrated and accepted. -- Original message -- From: Martin Pratt We're not stoppin' ya from speaking truth to power, either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling--and jes' one Black man's opinion--she looked better back in her Fame days. By no means am I against fit women, but the Sister looks better when she lets that naturally curvacious body do its thang. The abs are tight, but cross too far into Fitness Magazine for my tastes. But that's okay. My real problem is Jackson having mutilated her nose years ago as part of that Jackson frenzy to remake theirselves. Her natural God-given nose fit her face better. The thin thing she has now just doesn't do it for me. To me she's gone from beautiful to just very pretty. But then, ain't no one asking me my opinion! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html?PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... --- On the Net: http://www.janet-jackson.com/ http://www.vibe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been
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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
I loved the video with Antonio sabato jr and dimson (The Black guy from Tombraider II and that Keannu Reeves Demon flick) I used to watch to grit on them, but seeing her looking so good and glowing, I went out and brought some weights. She was hot. Reading the text below saddens me. God the Jacksons have some horrible self esteem. I might add I thought she was adorable when she was big. buy the way, shortly after Cindy Crawford made a really nasty comment about Jennifer Lopez's butt in the George Clooney film out of sight, I read she had Liposuction Tracey Martin Pratt wrote: Preachify, brother! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember back in the days of the Rhythmn Nation album Just before then Jackson was really big for a while, then had lost a lot of weight. Remember she did one video all in black and white, wearing jeans and a black tee shirt, and she danced on chairs and stuff? The Sister was looking good! She had the legs and hips lots of Brothers like. Right after that I read an interview with her where she said she was embarrassed by her big butt and big legs. She went on to say that she tried to hide her legs especially. I was sad to read that, because she wasn't fat, was obviously in great shape as evidenced by her dance moves. But there she was, the epitome of African beauty, ashamed of her legs and butt. Later on she emerged with the first of the ultra-cut bodies that she'd have over the years. Again, I ain't hatin' on women who want to be fit, but it saddens me when so many women try to get rid of their God-given blessings because society's tastes have changed so drastically. And the n what happens when Sisters try to hide their assets? Someone like Jennifer Lopez gets credited for making full bottoms something to be celebrated and accepted. -- Original message -- From: Martin Pratt We're not stoppin' ya from speaking truth to power, either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling--and jes' one Black man's opinion--she looked better back in her Fame days. By no means am I against fit women, but the Sister looks better when she lets that naturally curvacious body do its thang. The abs are tight, but cross too far into Fitness Magazine for my tastes. But that's okay. My real problem is Jackson having mutilated her nose years ago as part of that Jackson frenzy to remake theirselves. Her natural God-given nose fit her face better. The thin thing she has now just doesn't do it for me. To me she's gone from beautiful to just very pretty. But then, ain't no one asking me my opinion! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html?PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie
Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
It takes me out that they consider actresses like Monica Bertolucci voluptuous. I think she is hot. The minute an actress puts on just enough weight to still be just under average weight, they make a big deal of it. Then I see movie boards talking about how great actresses like Calista Flockheart of Ally Mc Beal look. I'm not a man, but it seems to me that men should be lusting over Monica more than Calista. It is almost like those that prefer these emaciated women to not really be women, but to provide a legal be to be with someone who resembles young teen. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriou sly, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... --- On the Net: http://www.janet-jackson.com/ http://www.vibe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Don't get it either, this thing with skin and bones in women. I've never been drawn to such women. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It takes me out that they consider actresses like Monica Bertolucci voluptuous. I think she is hot. The minute an actress puts on just enough weight to still be just under average weight, they make a big deal of it. Then I see movie boards talking about how great actresses like Calista Flockheart of Ally Mc Beal look. I'm not a man, but it seems to me that men should be lusting over Monica more than Calista. It is almost like those that prefer these emaciated women to not really be women, but to provide a legal be to be with someone who resembles young teen. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriou sly, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... --- On the Net: http://www.janet-jackson.com/ http://www.vibe.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Get your email and
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I'd be afraid that Calista would snap in two when things got hot and heavy. A visit to the ER is a real mood killer. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:27 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] It takes me out that they consider actresses like Monica Bertolucci voluptuous. I think she is hot. The minute an actress puts on just enough weight to still be just under average weight, they make a big deal of it. Then I see movie boards talking about how great actresses like Calista Flockheart of Ally Mc Beal look. I'm not a man, but it seems to me that men should be lusting over Monica more than Calista. It is almost like those that prefer these emaciated women to not really be women, but to provide a legal be to be with someone who resembles young teen. Tracey KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriou sly, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart melaninjitsu@ mailto:melaninjitsu%40mac.com mac.com science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:camillegfs%40GMAIL.COM COM Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1. http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is
RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
Yeah, I've been busy. Stupid, frakking Russian hackers had been messing with my websites. Problem solved (upgraded a component in the C.M.S.). Anyway, The Wife refers to Flockhart, Lara Flynn Boyle, etc. as lollipops. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:58 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] Hey James! Long time, no type. How am I supposed to get work done when I'm laughing hysterically :) Tracey James Landrith wrote: I'd be afraid that Calista would snap in two when things got hot and heavy. A visit to the ER is a real mood killer. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslan http://www.jameslandrith.com drith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multirac http://www.multiracial.com ial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multirac http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ ial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] It takes me out that they consider actresses like Monica Bertolucci voluptuous. I think she is hot. The minute an actress puts on just enough weight to still be just under average weight, they make a big deal of it. Then I see movie boards talking about how great actresses like Calista Flockheart of Ally Mc Beal look. I'm not a man, but it seems to me that men should be lusting over Monica more than Calista. It is almost like those that prefer these emaciated women to not really be women, but to provide a legal be to be with someone who resembles young teen. Tracey KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriou sly, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart melaninjitsu@ mailto:melaninjitsu%40mac.com mac.com science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:camillegfs%40GMAIL.COM COM Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1. http://apnews1. http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? iwon.com/article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old
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What CMS do you use? Any particular reasons the Russians have it out for you? I like the lollipop analogy. Lara was another one who wasn't big to begin with who got on this kick of looking like she has been staying in a concentration camp Tracey James Landrith wrote: Yeah, I've been busy. Stupid, frakking Russian hackers had been messing with my websites. Problem solved (upgraded a component in the C.M.S.). Anyway, The Wife refers to Flockhart, Lara Flynn Boyle, etc. as lollipops. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:58 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] Hey James! Long time, no type. How am I supposed to get work done when I'm laughing hysterically :) Tracey James Landrith wrote: I'd be afraid that Calista would snap in two when things got hot and heavy. A visit to the ER is a real mood killer. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslan http://www.jameslandrith.com drith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multirac http://www.multiracial.com ial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multirac http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ ial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] It takes me out that they consider actresses like Monica Bertolucci voluptuous. I think she is hot. The minute an actress puts on just enough weight to still be just under average weight, they make a big deal of it. Then I see movie boards talking about how great actresses like Calista Flockheart of Ally Mc Beal look. I'm not a man, but it seems to me that men should be lusting over Monica more than Calista. It is almost like those that prefer these emaciated women to not really be women, but to provide a legal be to be with someone who resembles young teen. Tracey KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriou sly, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart melaninjitsu@ mailto:melaninjitsu%40mac.com mac.com science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:camillegfs%40GMAIL.COM COM Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she
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I use Mambo (http://www.mamboserver.com http://www.mamboserver.com/ ). These fools were hacking the index page via the Simpleboard forum component. It was a game, like teenagers trying to tag as many walls as possible. I even found a place online where they were keeping count of how many websites they had defaced. Once I upgraded the component from Simpleboard to Joomlaboard, the problem was solved. Fortunately, they were only replacing the index page and not doing any real damage. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:25 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] What CMS do you use? Any particular reasons the Russians have it out for you? I like the lollipop analogy. Lara was another one who wasn't big to begin with who got on this kick of looking like she has been staying in a concentration camp Tracey [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I've actually messed around bit with Mambo. I like it. A few years back, some guys from China hacked our index page. Same situation. For a while I used to get angry emails from people who said my site was about hate, so it has me a little on guard for hackers with malicious inter. I'm glad no major damage was caused. Tracey James Landrith wrote: I use Mambo (http://www.mamboserver.com http://www.mamboserver.com/ ). These fools were hacking the index page via the Simpleboard forum component. It was a game, like teenagers trying to tag as many walls as possible. I even found a place online where they were keeping count of how many websites they had defaced. Once I upgraded the component from Simpleboard to Joomlaboard, the problem was solved. Fortunately, they were only replacing the index page and not doing any real damage. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslandrith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multiracial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:25 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] What CMS do you use? Any particular reasons the Russians have it out for you? I like the lollipop analogy. Lara was another one who wasn't big to begin with who got on this kick of looking like she has been staying in a concentration camp Tracey [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: MTV 'SNOOP' POOP
thats what you call speechifying. straight, no chaseron point... http://blog.thebayindogroup.com/ - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?
OK guys, i swear this is scifi. i'm sorry, I had to send it. Buttless underwear!?!?! C V wrote: Did you all know there was such a thing as 'backless underwear'? I swear...I'm getting old and have seen it all. AND they're having a sale now! where the heck have i been? http://www.backlesslingerie.com/?cid=1134sid=4029pid=0mid=494 Camille [perhaps its 1/2 off??] LOL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Crawford made a negative comment about Lopez' butt? Really? What did she say? And why in the world would any people blessed with the attributes of African heritage let a white, skinny world dictate to them what's beautiful?! -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, 08 August, 2006 16:09 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] I loved the video with Antonio sabato jr and dimson (The Black guy from Tombraider II and that Keannu Reeves Demon flick) I used to watch to grit on them, but seeing her looking so good and glowing, I went out and brought some weights. She was hot. Reading the text below saddens me. God the Jacksons have some horrible self esteem. I might add I thought she was adorable when she was big. buy the way, shortly after Cindy Crawford made a really nasty comment about Jennifer Lopez's butt in the George Clooney film out of sight, I read she had Liposuction Tracey Martin Pratt wrote: Preachify, brother! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember back in the days of the Rhythmn Nation album Just before then Jackson was really big for a while, then had lost a lot of weight. Remember she did one video all in black and white, wearing jeans and a black tee shirt, and she danced on chairs and stuff? The Sister was looking good! She had the legs and hips lots of Brothers like. Right after that I read an interview with her where she said she was embarrassed by her big butt and big legs. She went on to say that she tried to hide her legs especially. I was sad to read that, because she wasn't fat, was obviously in great shape as evidenced by her dance moves. But there she was, the epitome of African beauty, ashamed of her legs and butt. Later on she emerged with the first of the ultra-cut bodies that she'd have over the years. Again, I ain't hatin' on women who want to be fit, but it saddens me when so many women try to get rid of their God-given blessings because society's tastes have changed so drastically. And the n what happens when Sisters try to hide their assets? Someone like Jennifer Lopez gets credited for making full bottoms something to be celebrated and accepted. -- Original message -- From: Martin Pratt We're not stoppin' ya from speaking truth to power, either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling--and jes' one Black man's opinion--she looked better back in her Fame days. By no means am I against fit women, but the Sister looks better when she lets that naturally curvacious body do its thang. The abs are tight, but cross too far into Fitness Magazine for my tastes. But that's okay. My real problem is Jackson having mutilated her nose years ago as part of that Jackson frenzy to remake theirselves. Her natural God-given nose fit her face better. The thin thing she has now just doesn't do it for me. To me she's gone from beautiful to just very pretty. But then, ain't no one asking me my opinion! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html?PG=homeSEC=n ews Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with
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hilarious! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Landrith Sent: Tuesday, 08 August, 2006 17:45 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] I'd be afraid that Calista would snap in two when things got hot and heavy. A visit to the ER is a real mood killer. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith Taking the Gloves Off - http://www.jameslan http://www.jameslandrith.com drith.com The Multiracial Activist - http://www.multirac http://www.multiracial.com ial.com The Abolitionist Examiner - http://www.multirac http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ ial.com/abolitionist/ __ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] It takes me out that they consider actresses like Monica Bertolucci voluptuous. I think she is hot. The minute an actress puts on just enough weight to still be just under average weight, they make a big deal of it. Then I see movie boards talking about how great actresses like Calista Flockheart of Ally Mc Beal look. I'm not a man, but it seems to me that men should be lusting over Monica more than Calista. It is almost like those that prefer these emaciated women to not really be women, but to provide a legal be to be with someone who resembles young teen. Tracey KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriou sly, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart melaninjitsu@ mailto:melaninjitsu%40mac.com mac.com science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:camillegfs%40GMAIL.COM COM Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1. http://apnews1. http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? iwon.com/article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her
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Fleeing the Scene How Jamie Foxx forced the macho Mann to change the ending of Miami Vice. By Kim Masters Posted Thursday, July 13, 2006, at 5:12 PM ET If it weren't for the talent of Michael Mann, a movie version of Miami Vice would almost certainly be as awful as it sounds. And even with the talent of Mann, Universal is fighting negative early buzz about the film. What's clear is that the movie is dark, R-rated, and hardly a nostalgia-fest for fans of the television show. If Miami Vice doesn't work-artistically, at least-that would be a shame for those who toiled to get it made. If there were an Academy Award for on-set trauma, this movie could be a lock. Mann, a perfectionist, is known as one of the most difficult directors in the business. And on this film, according to a number of those who were present, he lived down to his reputation, berating crew members (and even the talent) and creating a sense of chaos as he went through his process. The movie wound up going over schedule and dramatically over budget, with the final tally rumored to be more than $150 million. The studio says the number is actually $135 million. Mann is gifted enough that actors entrust themselves to him. Clearly Jamie Foxx did, returning to work with Mann after making Collateral and getting a supporting-actor nomination out of it. But on Miami Vice things went so wrong that Foxx ended up leaving in the middle of production, after a shooting (and we don't mean the kind with a camera) took place during filming in the Dominican Republic. Foxx refused to return for any more work outside the United States, meaning that Mann had to rewrite the ending, eliminating a version that was to have been shot in Paraguay. The whole of making this movie was filled with adversity, Mann says. But he adds that whatever the crew might have endured, it was all in the service of making a great film. Sometimes folks are going to join this unit and they may have a tough time, he says. Guess what? They're on the wrong movie. Sources on the set say things got off to a rough start with Foxx. For one thing, after signing for the film, Foxx won the Oscar for his performance in Ray. He was a bigger star than before, and according to members of the production team, he showed up with an entourage and something of an attitude. Foxx balked at flying commercial to Miami (Universal finally gave him the jet). And there was an early problem because Foxx was getting paid less than Farrell even though he was now an Academy Award winner. Foxx got a big raise while Farrell took a bit of a cut. Despite that and his hard-partying reputation, Farrell was very well-behaved, according to crew members. Yes, Colin comes to play around, but he always showed up on time and prepared, one says. Jamie is more of a diva in the sense that he was afraid of boats, afraid of planes-there were a lot of things where he was afraid for himself. Colin will do anything. Mann is a macho guy, so perhaps it's not surprising that sparks flew between him and the balky Foxx. Mann won't comment on the situation with Foxx other than to talk about his admiration of the actor's talent. I'm not going to dish dirt about Jamie, he says. He has a unique process of acting, and most people don't understand it. He and I are real close. . That allows us to disagree about stuff. Certainly, clashing with Mann was not for Foxx alone. Michael dressed down everybody and humiliated everybody, says a crew member. He's an equal-opportunity guy. Mann has his defenders. Maria Chavez, a location manager who's worked with Mann all the way back to the days of the Miami Vice television show, says her boss was very intense but not unfair. It's about stretching when you work with him, she says. His expectations might be high because he's so creative. It's just a standard he sets. Crew members say the situation was complicated in part because Mann went through dozens of script changes. It was being written essentially by Michael on the fly, a crew member says. He changed his mind constantly about locations (and, to the bitter end, was toying with multiple edits). He was almost like a kid in a candy shop, this individual says. That kind of indecision becomes a systemic thing. It's hard, at the last minute, to make deals with vendors, rent a plane, to close down a freeway. But Mann is unapologetic. You try to get the best out of a scene, he says. You try to get the best experience for an audience. And you don't settle. It's really tempting to settle. And it's really embarrassing to not settle. Universal Chairman Marc Shmuger only assumed his job in time to work with Mann on postproduction. But he says he's become an enthusiastic backer of the director's methods. Rather than finding Mann indecisive, Shmuger says, I actually marvel at his ability to keep all of his creative options open. He's fearless. He is willing to try everything. That's a process that does involve wear and tear on everybody. Mann poured his
RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
Monica Bellucci is easily and always on my list of the top ten best looking actresses! Wow, wow, wow! Also, Selma Hayek and my girl Charisma Carpenter. I think the problem is that so many people are programmed to see certain assets as beautiful, which colors their overall view. No offense to any white women on this list, but I've seen white guys just drool over bony, pale blonde white women who aren't in the least attractive. I'm stunned sometimes. I guess it cuts across all groups though, 'cause I've seen Brothers even nowadays drool over light-skinned or half-Asian Sisters who really aren't pretty. It's as if those traits override one's ability to look objectively at things like facial features. I have my types I like--voluptous--but I really do look overall at the face and stuff when i deem someon attractive. For example, i'm not a big fan of really thin women, but I think Charlize Theron is gorgeous, but that's because her face is amazing. _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Tuesday, 08 August, 2006 16:27 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] It takes me out that they consider actresses like Monica Bertolucci voluptuous. I think she is hot. The minute an actress puts on just enough weight to still be just under average weight, they make a big deal of it. Then I see movie boards talking about how great actresses like Calista Flockheart of Ally Mc Beal look. I'm not a man, but it seems to me that men should be lusting over Monica more than Calista. It is almost like those that prefer these emaciated women to not really be women, but to provide a legal be to be with someone who resembles young teen. Tracey KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriou sly, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart melaninjitsu@ mailto:melaninjitsu%40mac.com mac.com science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:camillegfs%40GMAIL.COM COM Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1. http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger
