Re: [scifinoir2] New DVD

2010-02-22 Thread Jeff Carter
I love their take on Owl Man.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:



 Anyone heard any early talk about this new DC movie:  Justice League:
 Crisis on Two Earths?  comes out of the 23rd.

 Fate.

  



Re: [scifinoir2] New DVD

2010-02-22 Thread jazzynupe_007
Thanks my friend.  Going to buy it anyway. Picked up Planet Hulk this weekend, 
2 go along with Hulk vs., Justice League: New Frontier, both Ultimate Avengers 
and my personal fav - Dr. Strange. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:10:37 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New DVD

Yes, I will post about it later tonight.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Augustus Augustus
jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Anyone heard any early talk about this new DC movie:  Justice League:
 Crisis on Two Earths?  comes out of the 23rd.

 Fate.



 




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[scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time

Interesting list.  No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
(14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous twos 
of the '70s.  

And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies.  That said, Shaft 
should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
Blaxploitation boom.

My personal top five:
1)Shaft
2)Superfly
3)Coffy
4)The Mack
5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song



[scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

Any Past Life fans?

The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The 
Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh 
Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past life 
in ancient Rome.

Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three 
episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the 
remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

http://www.fox.com/pastlife/



Re: [scifinoir2] Stereosopic 3D Erotic Movie to be Directed by Tinto Brass

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, the adult industry helped decided the HD-DVD vs. BluRay battle. It helped 
improve things such as identity verification online, secure payment methods, 
streaming video technology, chat tech--you name it. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:42:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stereosopic 3D Erotic Movie to be Directed by Tinto 
Brass 






The adult industry has been ahead of the curve for the last 20 years. They were 
the first to move to and standardize many technologies. There have been a 
several green screen adult movies that came out two years before Sincity was 
made. 

A lot of people have been making their own 3d cameras by using two identical 
cameras connected together. 

I owned a 3d still picture camera a few years back. It was basically an old 
Kodak camera with two fixed lens. When you pressed the button to take a picture 
it exposed two frames of film at a time. 


On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Well, the adult industry has been leading/influencing computer, Internet, and 
audio-visual tech for years, so no surprise here. This website is pretty good: 
all things 3D discussed. I used it to determine which theatre near me was using 
the best 3D tech to show Avatar (turns out both were using Real 3D, which was 
great). And who knew there was all this You Tube 3D stuff going on? I may have 
to get some 3D glasses (the ones I absconded with from the theatre probably 
won't work) and start checking this out. Probably gonna have to use something 
other than my T42 laptop though :( 

*** 
http://3dvision-blog.com/stereosopic-3d-erotic-movie-to-be-directed-by-tinto-brass/#more-1351
 

You probably have heard the name Tinto Brass (Giovanni Brass) as he is quite 
popular Italian director of erotic movies, including the very controversial 
movie adaption of Gor Vidal’s Caligula from 1979 he directed. Tinto Brass’ name 
just got in the news because of him announcing plans to start working on a 3D 
erotic movie which can as well turn out to be a remake of the Caligula in 3D, 
but this time done right and not ruined by someone else. The project that Tinto 
Brass has already started working on is involving a Roman emperor so the story 
will be in that era, and the work on casting and the script should start 
immediately with plans to start the filming process in May or June. Now have in 
mind that Tinto Brass is talking about making a 3D erotic movie and not 3D porn 
(there is huge difference), because he believes that time is right for 3D 
technologies to be used to create such a production. As we all know well enough 
the adult industry is one of the key factor making some technologies the 
proffered ones and helping others die unsuccessfully and we are already seeing 
growing interest coming from it for producing 3D content. Previously there were 
some attempts to make stereoscopic 3D porn movies, but relying mostly on 
anaglyph technology which kind of ruins the whole experience. Now having 
quality not only in terms of script, acting and of course in the visuals is 
what is still lacking and Tinto Brass is supposed to provide all of these, or 
at leas the expectations from him in these areas are quite high. In the last 
few months there were some good examples of what can be done with the currently 
available 3D technologies, so it can be said that 2010 will also be interesting 
year for the adult industry going 3D too. If you’ve missed the interview with 
the founder of the adult oriented stereoscopic 3D website called Adult4D (18+) 
, you should check it out for some more interesting insights and information 
from Sir Thomas Graf de Porneau. 






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Re: [scifinoir2] 50 Most Racist Movies

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Wild stuff. From this list, I'd put Soul Man as the most offensive. I've not 
been able to watch C. Thomas Howell or Rae Dawn Chong since the day this 
offensive thing was release. 

I ought to send it to a friend of man who went off on me just yesterday after a 
comment I made on Avatar. I said I loved Avatar for the visuals, action, 
and even the simplistic but important message, but was irritated by the white 
man/European fantasy of the imperialist not only Going Native, but surpassing 
the Natives in their own culture to become their savior. Interesting 
conversation. 

Like this list, but my only critique would be that the movies are in some ways 
too generic/mainstream. I guess they focused on fairly well known flicks of the 
last forty years or so, but I can think of a whole bunch they've left off that 
are way more offensive than, say Gremlins. Of course, I guess you can't take 
the list to any time before 1968 or so, 'cause *all* the damn movies were 
racist. 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:08:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] 50 Most Racist Movies 






http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies 




Re: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made more 
money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. Not 
sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 

And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie that 
too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is way more 
talented than usually given credit for being. 


- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 






http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 

Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy (14), 
since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous twos of the 
'70s. 

And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said, Shaft 
should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
Blaxploitation boom. 

My personal top five: 
1)Shaft 
2)Superfly 
3)Coffy 
4)The Mack 
5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song 




RE: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

I'm not a fan. To be fair, I wasn't sold on the premise or the promotions for 
it, so I never got around to watching.

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
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Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart?
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
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CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0








 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:56:45 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

  



http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

Any Past Life fans?

The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The 
Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh 
Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past life 
in ancient Rome.

Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three 
episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the 
remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

http://www.fox.com/pastlife/




  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Mike Street
I tried watching it the characters where corny and it felt like a really bad
version of Medium.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

 Any Past Life fans?

 The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The
 Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh
 Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past
 life in ancient Rome.

 Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three
 episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the
 remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

 http://www.fox.com/pastlife/

  




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Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Tracy Curtis
I actually watched the show.  It was puzzling.  People went to therapy and
ended up talking to crime investigators who used the patients' past lives to
solve cold cases.  None of this made sense with any traditional
understanding of criminal investigations, therapy, or reincarnation.  It was
a bit crazy.


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

 Any Past Life fans?

 The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The
 Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh
 Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past
 life in ancient Rome.

 Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three
 episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the
 remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

 http://www.fox.com/pastlife/

  



Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Omari Confer
I was a fan of the series in a past life.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood 
aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com wrote:



 I'm not a fan. To be fair, I wasn't sold on the premise or the promotions
 for it, so I never got around to watching.

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 From: ravena...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:56:45 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life


  http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

 Any Past Life fans?

 The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The
 Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh
 Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past
 life in ancient Rome.

 Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three
 episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the
 remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

 http://www.fox.com/pastlife/



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RE: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

ahahahahahahahahhha ok that one tickled my funny bone

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime 
Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart?
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
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CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0








 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: clockwork...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:27:24 -0600
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

  



I was a fan of the series in a past life.


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood 
aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com wrote:


  



I'm not a fan. To be fair, I wasn't sold on the premise or the promotions for 
it, so I never got around to watching.

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime 
Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart?
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0








 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:56:45 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

  



http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

Any Past Life fans?

The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The 
Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh 
Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past life 
in ancient Rome.

Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three 
episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the 
remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

http://www.fox.com/pastlife/






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RE: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

also, seriously, do past lives only go back fifty or sixty years? because what 
about people dealing with centuries or millenia old past life baggage???

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime 
Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart?
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0








 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tlcurti...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:22:27 -0600
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

  



I actually watched the show.  It was puzzling.  People went to therapy and 
ended up talking to crime investigators who used the patients' past lives to 
solve cold cases.  None of this made sense with any traditional understanding 
of criminal investigations, therapy, or reincarnation.  It was a bit crazy.



On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


  



http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

Any Past Life fans?

The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The 
Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh 
Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past life 
in ancient Rome.

Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three 
episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the 
remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

http://www.fox.com/pastlife/








  
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[scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread B Smith
Agreed. I actually enjoyed watching Baddasss more than movie that inspired it. 
Although you can't go wrong with the EWF score from Sweetback.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made 
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. 
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 
 
 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
 his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie 
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is 
 way more talented than usually given credit for being. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 
 
 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
 twos of the '70s. 
 
 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
 Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said, 
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
 Blaxploitation boom. 
 
 My personal top five: 
 1)Shaft 
 2)Superfly 
 3)Coffy 
 4)The Mack 
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song





RE: [scifinoir2] Anyone familiar with Felicia D. Henderson?

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Didn't have the time to do so yesterday. Just did, and Is ee that she was a 
writer for Fringe and Gossip Girl. In my book, that's enough to keep me 
moving. No offense intended, but those aren't two of my must-watches.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:52:54 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Anyone familiar with Felicia D. Henderson?


















 



  



  
  
  
Do a GOGGLE or imdb search?





From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 3:13:57 PM
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Anyone familiar with Felicia D. Henderson?

  

George, the name rings a bell, and little else. Even when I did read comics 
regularly, I only read a select few, and she wasn't in any of that number. 
Probably spied her name on a cover in passing. Why do you ask?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik







To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 07:16:37 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Anyone familiar with Felicia D. Henderson?

  






First Black female writer at DC. Was a writer on Fringe.





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[scifinoir2] Fw: Brilliant

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 these cool little, postage-paid return envelopes.One of Andy Rooney's (60 minutes) ideas.Send an ad for your local chimney cleaner to American Express. Send a pizza coupon to Citibank. If you didn't get anything else that day, then just send them their blank application back!If you want to remain anonymous, just make sure your name isn't on anything you send them.You can even send the envelope back empty if you want to just to keep them guessing! It still costs them 41 cents.The banks and credit card companies are currently getting a lot of their own junk back in the mail, but folks, we need to OVERWHELM them. Let's let them know what it's like to get lots
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RE: [scifinoir2] steampunk gadgets

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Cool, but the toilet and vibrator were a bit too much. Admittedly necessary in 
any realm, but that's the liberal prude in me talking...
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Does Tiger Woods owe you an apology flow chart

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Tracy, THANK YOU.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tlcurti...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:22:39 -0600
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Tiger Woods owe you an apology flow chart


















 



  



  
  
  I kept wondering who these people were who wanted him to take questions.  
What in the world do people think he should answer?  Why has this become 
everybody's business and too many people's concern?



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  http://www.postbourgie.com/2010/02/19/does-tiger-woods-owe-you-an-apology/

Use this handy dandy flow chart to find out.

Hope that cleared things up!~rave!



 









  












 









  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Rewrite 2: Heroes

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Start out exactly the way the series started, ignore the Brainless Suits when 
they complained. I'd stretch things out a bit, put in more sidebars for each 
Hero, allow them to try heroing in some small form, feel out the scopes of 
their powers while maintaining the overall story arc.

And leave Sylar as the Big Bad. And keep as many of the power players (i.e. 
Peter and Nathan's mother) out of the spotlight.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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RE: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd 
already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the 
same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out 
Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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  Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the 
Israelis? The germans? The brits?


On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html




SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected 
computers that stole information from inside corporations and government 
agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that 
it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of having computers with 
sensitive data connected to the open Internet.




More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy 
companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the botnet, according to 
the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it.












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Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we
have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from
anti-american hackers.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then
 they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the
 Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used
 it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data


  Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the
 Israelis? The germans? The brits?


 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


 http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html

 SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000
 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and
 government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it
 happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of
 having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet.

 More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy
 companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the botnet, according
 to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it.



 

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RE: [scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Mr Worf, as for the Temporal Cold War, they summed that up when Paramount took 
the show from the Killer Bs and gave it to Manny Coto. Basically, it came down 
to an unsatisfying Take out this one time platform and it's all over with. :P

As for the V-word series, the less said the better. I quit on it when they 
trotted out Sex of Nine -- uh, Seven of Nine. That catsuit and heels told me 
that they wanted my head as a fan. (The OTHER one, that is.)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:36:39 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites


















 



  



  
  
  I defense of Voyager, I think Voyager had some interesting elements in it 
that were variations on other characters from other series such as a black 
Vulcan, a female captain, a rehabilitated Borg, a half Klingon/ half human, and 
a virtual life form. I think the problem with the show was that the show got 
bogged down in useless subplots. 


I thought it was interesting that there was a virtual copy of the entire crew 
that was exploring that part of the galaxy and no one knew about it until their 
death. Unfortunately, none of these elements made much use that there just 
wasn't a good enough motivation to watch the show. 


I think what would be an interesting plot for the mirror universe is that 
Section 7 sneaks over into the mirror universe and starts stealing technology. 

I would love to also see a more in depth look at federation wars. Also what 
happened with the temperal war that was going on in Enterprise?





On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 6:41 AM,  jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:



































I would change the ending to DS9. Leave ST:THG alone (ending that is). Continue 
2 explore the mirror universe and the continuation of the founding of the 
Federation in Enterprise.  And not even do that piece of crap Voyager. 


Fate. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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[scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites


 




  
  
  If you had the power to rewrite any of the Star trek series what would 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Rewrite 2: Heroes

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
I think that one of the most interesting characters in the first season was
Isaac. They should have kept him alive because his character added to the
suspense. Also him having the crutch of using heroin was classic!

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Start out exactly the way the series started, ignore the Brainless Suits
 when they complained. I'd stretch things out a bit, put in more sidebars for
 each Hero, allow them to try heroing in some small form, feel out the scopes
 of their powers while maintaining the overall story arc.

 And leave Sylar as the Big Bad. And keep as many of the power players (i.e.
 Peter and Nathan's mother) out of the spotlight.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:23:33 -0800
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Rewrite 2: Heroes


  If you had the power to go back in time and become an exec at NBC how
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Re: [scifinoir2] Fw: Brilliant

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
These are great tips.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
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 *CBS Newsman *
 *
 *[image: cid:1.490282034@web33506.mail.mud.yahoo.com]
 *
 Tips for Handling Telemarketers *

 Three Little Words That Work !!

 (1)The three little words are: *'Hold On, Please...' *

 Saying this, while putting down your phone and walking off (instead of
 hanging-up immediately) would make each telemarketing call so much more
 time-consuming that boiler room sales would grind to a halt.

 Then when you eventually hear the phone company's 'beep-beep-beep' tone,
 you know it's time to go back and hang up your handset, which has
 efficiently completed its task.

 These three little words *will help* eliminate telephone soliciting.*


 (2) Do you ever get those annoying phone calls with no one on the other
 end? *

 This is a telemarketing technique where a machine makes phone calls and
 records the time of day when a person answers the phone.


 This technique is used to determine the best time of day for a 'real' sales
 person to call back and get someone at home.

 What you can do after answering, if you notice there is no one there, is to
 immediately start hitting your *# button on the phone, 6 or 7 times, as
 quickly as possible* This confuses the machine that dialed the call and it
 kicks your number out of their system. Gosh, what a shame not to have your
 name in their system any longer !!! *

 (3) Junk Mail Help:*
 When you get 'ads' enclosed with your phone or utility bill, return these
 'ads' with your payment. Let the sending companies throw their own junk mail
 away.

 When you get those 'pre-approved' letters in the mail for everything from
 credit cards to 2nd mortgages and similar type junk, do not throw away the
 return envelope.

 Most of these come with postage-paid return envelopes, right? It costs them
 more than the regular 41 cents postage 'IF' and when they receive them
 back..

 It costs them nothing if you throw them away! The postage was around 50
 cents before the last increase and it is according to the weight. In that
 case, why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these
 cool little, postage-paid return envelopes. *

 One of Andy Rooney's (60 minutes) ideas. *
 Send an ad for your local chimney cleaner to American Express. Send a pizza
 coupon to Citibank. If you didn't get anything else that day, then just send
 them their blank application back!
 If you want to remain anonymous, just make sure your name isn't on anything
 you send them.

 You can even send the envelope back empty if you want to just to keep them
 guessing! It still costs them 41 cents.

 The banks and credit card companies are currently getting a lot of their
 own junk back in the mail, but folks, we need to OVERWHELM them. Let's let
 them know what it's like to get lots of junk mail, and best of all they're
 paying for it...Twice!

 Let's help keep our postal service busy since they are saying that e-mail
 is cutting into their business profits, and that's why they need to increase
 postage costs again You get the idea !

 If enough people follow these tips, it will work  I have been doing
 this for years, and I get very little junk mail anymore. *

 THIS JUST MIGHT BE ONE E-MAIL THAT YOU WILL WANT TO FORWARD TO YOUR FRIENDS
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RE: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data

2010-02-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the 
Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data


















 



  



  
  
  I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we 
have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from 
anti-american hackers. 


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd 
already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the 
same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out 
Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really.


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data


















 



  



  
  
  Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the 
Israelis? The germans? The brits?


On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html





SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected 
computers that stole information from inside corporations and government 
agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that 
it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of having computers with 
sensitive data connected to the open Internet.





More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy 
companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the botnet, according to 
the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it.













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Re: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
Sweetback was first, Shaft was second. Both are some of the most important
films in the black exploitation period. Sweetback originally had an X
rating. Which was given to force it to be shown to an adult only audience.
Van Peebles should get credit for not only making the first black rebel
movie but also being the first modern indie director. (Michealluex was the
first.)



On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films.
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though...

 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling
 of his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is
 way more talented than usually given credit for being.



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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time



 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time

 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous
 twos of the '70s.

 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By
 the Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said,
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the
 Blaxploitation boom.

 My personal top five:
 1)Shaft
 2)Superfly
 3)Coffy
 4)The Mack
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song



 




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Re: [scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
I have to agree with you on the seven of nine thing. It would have been
funnier if she were named six of nine. :) I think that character's out fit
will go down in history as the sexiest star fleet uniform ever.

I think that they didn't want to get into the temporal war because it would
have been too hard to explain. I don't think that any tv series has taken on
the task to try to do time travel cause and effect in depth (except Heroes
and the Xmen cartoon).

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, as for the Temporal Cold War, they summed that up when Paramount
 took the show from the Killer Bs and gave it to Manny Coto. Basically, it
 came down to an unsatisfying Take out this one time platform and it's all
 over with. :P

 As for the V-word series, the less said the better. I quit on it when they
 trotted out Sex of Nine -- uh, Seven of Nine. That catsuit and heels told me
 that they wanted my head as a fan. (The OTHER one, that is.)

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:36:39 -0800

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites


  I defense of Voyager, I think Voyager had some interesting elements in it
 that were variations on other characters from other series such as a black
 Vulcan, a female captain, a rehabilitated Borg, a half Klingon/ half human,
 and a virtual life form. I think the problem with the show was that the show
 got bogged down in useless subplots.

 I thought it was interesting that there was a virtual copy of the entire
 crew that was exploring that part of the galaxy and no one knew about it
 until their death. Unfortunately, none of these elements made much use that
 there just wasn't a good enough motivation to watch the show.

 I think what would be an interesting plot for the mirror universe is that
 Section 7 sneaks over into the mirror universe and starts stealing
 technology.

 I would love to also see a more in depth look at federation wars. Also what
 happened with the temperal war that was going on in Enterprise?




 On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 6:41 AM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I would change the ending to DS9. Leave ST:THG alone (ending that is).
 Continue 2 explore the mirror universe and the continuation of the founding
 of the Federation in Enterprise. And not even do that piece of crap Voyager.


 Fate. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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 *Date: *Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:59:45 -0800
 *To: *scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[scifinoir2] topic: Rewrites


 If you had the power to rewrite any of the Star trek series what would you
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Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite possibility.
Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the Russian equivalent
of MIT.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the
 Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?)


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data


  I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we
 have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from
 anti-american hackers.


 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
  wrote:



 Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then
 they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the
 Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used
 it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really.

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




 --
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data


  Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the
 Israelis? The germans? The brits?


 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


 http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html

 SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000
 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and
 government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it
 happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of
 having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet.

 More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy
 companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the botnet, according
 to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it.



 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
I get what the show was trying to do. I watched one episode last week. It
was about two lovers that met in the 1950s. The father didn't want the girl
dating this bad boy. One night the father caught the two of them in her room
and defending the boy the girl struck her father in the head with a music
box killing him. They stole his car and ended up going on a crime spree
where they are both killed. They meet up again in the 70s and get killed by
the police again. This time they meet in the 2000s and each of them don't
know why they are attracted to each other but the past life thing kicks in
and they steal a car and go on a crime spree.

Part of the problem with the show is that there isn't a spookiness factor
that is involved with the cases. Without that it just becomes a bad mystery
that is similar to Cold Case / Ghost Whisperer / Medium except the cases are
facilitated by a therapist into past life regression. Great for people that
enjoy that topic, bad for people that are looking for more bang for their
buck.

I remember listening to an Art Bell interview with two doctors that
specialized in past life regression that met at a medical convention. They
started talking about their cases. One case that they brought up was about a
guy that lived in NYC that dreamed about knives and his fear of them. Over
the years they explored the root of cause of his dreams and discovered that
in a past life he was an apprentice to a knife maker that was sexually
abusing him, where he stabbed the knife maker in revenge.

On the west coast was another person who was also afraid of knives. This
person admitted that he was a knife maker and as they probed discovered that
he had molested a little boy that was his apprentice and was stabbed.

I don't know if that proves the existence of past lives but it is something
to think about.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood 
aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com wrote:



 also, seriously, do past lives only go back fifty or sixty years? because
 what about people dealing with centuries or millenia old past life
 baggage???


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 From: tlcurti...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:22:27 -0600

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fox cancels Past Life


  I actually watched the show.  It was puzzling.  People went to therapy
 and ended up talking to crime investigators who used the patients' past
 lives to solve cold cases.  None of this made sense with any traditional
 understanding of criminal investigations, therapy, or reincarnation.  It was
 a bit crazy.


 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L12I20100222

 Any Past Life fans?

 The series was created by David Hudgins and inspired by the book The
 Reincarnationist, a crime thriller by M.J. Rose, whose main character, Josh
 Ryder, solves a 21st-century crime with memories and clues from his past
 life in ancient Rome.

 Although seven episodes were produced,the series was canceled after three
 episodes aired to declining ratings. The network announced plans to air the
 remaining episodes at some unspecified point later in the season.

 http://www.fox.com/pastlife/





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[scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
I own Baddasss and rewatch it religiously.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made 
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. 
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 
 
 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
 his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie 
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is 
 way more talented than usually given credit for being. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 
 
 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
 twos of the '70s. 
 
 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
 Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said, 
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
 Blaxploitation boom. 
 
 My personal top five: 
 1)Shaft 
 2)Superfly 
 3)Coffy 
 4)The Mack 
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song





Re: [scifinoir2] Stereosopic 3D Erotic Movie to be Directed by Tinto Brass

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
Yep, and all of the tech that led up to the internet. Plus shooting an
editing movies on 8mm, 16mm, 35mm, and video. Surround sound, and enhanced
DVDs are also something that was created and used by porn makers as well
first. Without it we wouldn't have extras on our dvds.

We should also thank the Weekly World News for influencing the creators of
Photoshop. :) Evil's alien babies and Big foot Ufo sightings help create a
technology.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Yeah, the adult industry helped decided the HD-DVD vs. BluRay battle. It
 helped improve things such as identity verification online, secure payment
 methods, streaming video technology, chat tech--you name it.


 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:42:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stereosopic 3D Erotic Movie to be Directed by
 Tinto  Brass



 The adult industry has been ahead of the curve for the last 20 years. They
 were the first to move to and standardize many technologies. There have been
 a several green screen adult movies that came out two years before Sincity
 was made.

 A lot of people have been making their own 3d cameras by using two
 identical cameras connected together.

 I owned a 3d still picture camera a few years back. It was basically an old
 Kodak camera with two fixed lens. When you pressed the button to take a
 picture it exposed two frames of film at a time.

 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Well, the adult industry has been leading/influencing computer, Internet,
 and audio-visual tech for years, so no surprise here. This website is pretty
 good: all things 3D discussed. I used it to determine which theatre near me
 was using the best 3D tech to show Avatar (turns out both were using Real
 3D, which was great). And who knew there was all this You Tube 3D stuff
 going on? I may have to get some 3D glasses (the ones I absconded with from
 the theatre probably won't work) and start checking this out. Probably gonna
 have to use something other than my T42 laptop though  :(

 ***

 http://3dvision-blog.com/stereosopic-3d-erotic-movie-to-be-directed-by-tinto-brass/#more-1351

 You probably have heard the name Tinto Brass (Giovanni Brass) as he is
 quite popular Italian director of erotic movies, including the very
 controversial movie adaption of Gor Vidal’s Caligula from 1979 he directed.
 Tinto Brass’ name just got in the news because of him announcing plans to
 start working on a 3D erotic movie which can as well turn out to be a remake
 of the Caligula in 3D, but this time done right and not ruined by someone
 else. The project that Tinto Brass has already started working on is
 involving a Roman emperor so the story will be in that era, and the work on
 casting and the script should start immediately with plans to start the
 filming process in May or June. Now have in mind that Tinto Brass is talking
 about making a 3D erotic movie and not 3D porn (there is huge difference),
 because he believes that time is right for 3D technologies to be used to
 create such a production. As we all know well enough the adult industry is
 one of the key factor making some technologies the proffered ones and
 helping others die unsuccessfully and we are already seeing growing interest
 coming from it for producing 3D content. Previously there were some attempts
 to make stereoscopic 3D porn movies, but relying mostly on anaglyph
 technology which kind of ruins the whole experience. Now having quality not
 only in terms of script, acting and of course in the visuals is what is
 still lacking and Tinto Brass is supposed to provide all of these, or at
 leas the expectations from him in these areas are quite high. In the last
 few months there were some good examples of what can be done with the
 currently available 3D technologies, so it can be said that 2010 will also
 be interesting year for the adult industry going 3D too. If you’ve missed
 the interview with the founder of the adult oriented stereoscopic 3D website
 called Adult4D (18+) http://3dvision-blog.com/go/adult4d/, you should
 check it out for some more interesting insights and information from Sir
 Thomas Graf de Porneau.





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[scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
I place Sweetback at number five in my fab five because, while seminal, it is 
the least watchable.  In fact, as cinema, it is really a mess.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made 
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. 
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 
 
 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
 his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie 
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is 
 way more talented than usually given credit for being. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 
 
 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
 twos of the '70s. 
 
 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
 Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said, 
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
 Blaxploitation boom. 
 
 My personal top five: 
 1)Shaft 
 2)Superfly 
 3)Coffy 
 4)The Mack 
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song





[scifinoir2] Man finds Pill in Burger King sandwich

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22585348/detail.html

Man, I hate when this happens!

~(no)rave!



Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
It depends on how you look at the film. Do you look at it as a movie or do
you look at the whole thing as an art piece? Like the editing, the camera
work etc. could be counted as part of the collective aesthetic.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I place Sweetback at number five in my fab five because, while seminal,
 it is the least watchable.  In fact, as cinema, it is really a mess.

 ~(no)rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
 wrote:
 
  Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as
 the completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it
 made more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black
 films. Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though...
 
  And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical
 telling of his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really
 good movie that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder
 that Mario is way more talented than usually given credit for being.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time
 
  Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous
 twos of the '70s.
 
  And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By
 the Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said,
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the
 Blaxploitation boom.
 
  My personal top five:
  1)Shaft
  2)Superfly
  3)Coffy
  4)The Mack
  5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song
 




 

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[scifinoir2] Mov - Pando - Prince of Persia [1 Attachment]

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
**
*

*Plot: Set in medieval Persia, the story of an adventurous prince who teams
up with a rival princess to stop an angry ruler from unleashing a sandstorm
that could destroy the world. Which is why after the prince was tricked by a
dying Vizier to unleash the Sands of Time that turns out to destroy a
kingdom and transforms its populace into ferocious demons. In his effort to
save his own kingdom and redeem his fatal mistake, it\'s up to the prince
and the princess to return the sands to the hourglass by using the Dagger of
Time, which also gives him a limited control over the flow of time.

Director: Mike Newell
Writers: Doug Miro (screenplay) %26 Carlo Bernard (screenplay) ...
Release Date: 28 May 2010 (USA) more
Genre: Action | Adventure | Fantasy | Romance more
Tagline: Defy the Future

Cast
Jake Gyllenhaal ...Prince Dastan
Gemma Arterton ...Tamina
Ben Kingsley ...Nizam
Alfred Molina ...Sheik Amar




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RE: [scifinoir2] Mov - Pando - Prince of Persia

2010-02-22 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

I am so shamefully excited about this movie it's ridiculous. I've played all 
the games. I'm infatuated with the way Jake looks in all the trailers and promo 
plus the scenes I've caught glimpses of were bigger than life, the way I like 
my movies. It may disappoint, but I'm all over it.

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A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
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To: pandoparad...@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:23:51 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Mov - Pando - Prince of Persia [1 Attachment]

  


[Attachment(s) from Mr. Worf included below] 


















  
















 
 


Plot: Set in medieval Persia, the story of an adventurous prince who teams up 
with a rival princess to stop an angry ruler from unleashing a sandstorm that 
could destroy the world. Which is why after the prince was tricked by a dying 
Vizier to unleash the Sands of Time that turns out to destroy a kingdom and 
transforms its populace into ferocious demons. In his effort to save his own 
kingdom and redeem his fatal mistake, it\'s up to the prince and the princess 
to return the sands to the hourglass by using the Dagger of Time, which also 
gives him a limited control over the flow of time.

Director: Mike Newell
Writers: Doug Miro (screenplay) %26 Carlo Bernard (screenplay) ...
Release Date: 28 May 2010 (USA) more
Genre: Action | Adventure | Fantasy | Romance more
Tagline: Defy the Future

Cast 
Jake Gyllenhaal ...Prince Dastan
Gemma Arterton ...Tamina
Ben Kingsley ...Nizam
Alfred Molina ...Sheik Amar
 









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Re: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
That's my thinking as well. And wasn't Shaft originally supposed to be a 
white man? I do like that it was directed by incredibly talented photographer, 
the late Gordon Parks. I guess that Shaft may be more well known to the main 
than Sweetback. 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:29:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 






Sweetback was first, Shaft was second. Both are some of the most important 
films in the black exploitation period. Sweetback originally had an X rating. 
Which was given to force it to be shown to an adult only audience. Van Peebles 
should get credit for not only making the first black rebel movie but also 
being the first modern indie director. (Michealluex was the first.) 




On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made more 
money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. Not 
sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 

And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie that 
too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is way more 
talented than usually given credit for being. 



- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 






http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 

Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy (14), 
since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous twos of the 
'70s. 

And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said, Shaft 
should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
Blaxploitation boom. 

My personal top five: 
1)Shaft 
2)Superfly 
3)Coffy 
4)The Mack 
5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song 








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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Really, really good movie. I knew Mario had directorial skills. Posse and 
New Jack City are shot with a sure hand: they both feel like real movies. 
But the way he handled the story of his father in Badass, and the way he was 
able to capture the look and feel of those times, not to mention starring as 
his own father while also being the director, is nothing short of impressive. I 
told every black person I could think of to watch that flick when it came out. 
Unfortunately I usually got blank stares, and queries as to the latest Will 
Smith or Halle Berry film. 
The fact that Badass didn't get nominated for any major awards is a crime and 
an indictment of the system that hands those things out... 

- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:57:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 






I own Baddasss and rewatch it religiously. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made 
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. 
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 
 
 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
 his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie 
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is 
 way more talented than usually given credit for being. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 
 
 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
 twos of the '70s. 
 
 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
 Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said, 
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
 Blaxploitation boom. 
 
 My personal top five: 
 1)Shaft 
 2)Superfly 
 3)Coffy 
 4)The Mack 
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song 
 




Re: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
Yea I think that they were going to make it a white guy. The movie Bada
explains more of the back story to the movie. I don't remember all of the
details on it.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 That's my thinking as well. And wasn't Shaft originally supposed to be a
 white man? I do like that it was directed by incredibly talented
 photographer, the late Gordon Parks. I guess that Shaft may be more well
 known to the main than Sweetback.


 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:29:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time



 Sweetback was first, Shaft was second. Both are some of the most important
 films in the black exploitation period. Sweetback originally had an X
 rating. Which was given to force it to be shown to an adult only audience.
 Van Peebles should get credit for not only making the first black rebel
 movie but also being the first modern indie director. (Michealluex was the
 first.)



 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
  wrote:



 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films.
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though...

 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling
 of his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is
 way more talented than usually given credit for being.



 - Original Message -
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time




 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time

 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous
 twos of the '70s.

 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By
 the Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said,
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the
 Blaxploitation boom.

 My personal top five:
 1)Shaft
 2)Superfly
 3)Coffy
 4)The Mack
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song






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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
A lot of people don't know their history or African American film history.
So it doesn't register as being important to them. Only the here and now and
not the predecessors.

Same thing for music. It never dawned on a lot of younger folks that the
music in the background of their new favorite song had a life of its own.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Really, really good movie. I knew Mario had directorial skills. Posse and
 New Jack City are shot with a sure hand: they both feel like real
 movies. But the way he handled the story of his father in Badass, and the
 way he was able to capture the look and feel of those times, not to mention
 starring as his own father while also being the director, is nothing short
 of impressive. I told every black person I could think of to watch that
 flick when it came out. Unfortunately I usually got blank stares, and
 queries as to the latest Will Smith or Halle Berry film.
 The fact that Badass didn't get nominated for any major awards is a crime
 and an indictment of the system that hands those things out...


 - Original Message -
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:57:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time



 I own Baddasss and rewatch it religiously.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith
 Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:
 
  Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as
 the completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it
 made more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black
 films. Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though...
 
  And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical
 telling of his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really
 good movie that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder
 that Mario is way more talented than usually given credit for being.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time
 
  Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous
 twos of the '70s.
 
  And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By
 the Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said,
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the
 Blaxploitation boom.
 
  My personal top five:
  1)Shaft
  2)Superfly
  3)Coffy
  4)The Mack
  5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song
 



 




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Re: [scifinoir2] 50 Most Racist Movies

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
I agree. I was pissed off when that movie came out. It also started quite a
few arguments at school. I couldn't stand to look at Rae Dawn Chong after
that.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Wild stuff. From this list, I'd put Soul Man as the most offensive. I've
 not been able to watch C. Thomas Howell or Rae Dawn Chong since the day this
 offensive thing was release.

  I ought to send it to a friend of man who went off on me just yesterday
 after a comment I made on Avatar. I said I loved Avatar for the visuals,
 action, and even the simplistic but important message, but was irritated by
 the white man/European fantasy of the imperialist not only Going Native, but
 surpassing the Natives in their own culture to become their savior.
 Interesting conversation.

 Like this list, but my only critique would be that the movies are in some
 ways too generic/mainstream. I guess they focused on fairly well known
 flicks of the last forty years or so, but I can think of a whole bunch
 they've left off that are way more offensive than, say Gremlins.   Of
 course, I guess you can't take the list to any time before 1968 or so,
 'cause *all* the damn movies were racist.



 - Original Message -
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:08:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] 50 Most Racist Movies



 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies



 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah, I find that a lot. When I talk to black folk about film, I usually find 
that most are victims of only knowing about the mainstream movies, TV and 
theatre, that get all the buzz. If it's got Denzel, Halle, Will Smith, or now 
Beyonce, they know about it. I usually trot out a handful of must-see's for 
them: 

Sankofa - moving tale of a woman whose spirit is sent back to slavery. First 
movie I ever saw where the slaves get to fight back! I am *stunned* how few 
black people have seen this wonderful movie 

Once Upon a Time When We Were Colored - nice little look at a pre-Civil Rights 
Southern town, starring the great actor Al Freeman, JR, and produced by Tim 
Reid and his wife Daphne 

To Sleep with Anger - Danny Glover as disruptive spirit in the home of his 
cousin and his family, great performances by all, especially former Law and 
Order actor Richard Brooks 

Killer of Sheep - gritty look at inner city life by To Sleep with Anger 
writer/director Charles Burnett. 

Eve's Bayou - almost mystical tale with great performances by up-and-coming 
actress Jurnee Smollet and Meagan Good. Overlooked because it had the 
misfortune to come out the same year as Soul Food, to which it was superior) 
Bada! - great way to know an hugely important part of black and American 
film history known by too few 

Brother from Another Planet - from master director John Sayles, an insightful 
movie, featuring one of Joe Morton's best performances--for all that he speaks 
not a word! 

Down on the Delta - Poet Maya Angelou directs a lovely tale of a family split 
between rural and big city members, and how simple it really is to heal the 
wounds and rifts. Nice acting by Wesley Snipes in a non action role. 
Passionfish - John Sayles shows that you don't have to make a black movie to 
have black actors that are real, fully fleshed out, and respectfully treated. 

Love Jones - Cool music, cool actors, Nia Long looking her best, and a fun, 
sexy love story. Always angers me this movie never shows up on anyone's list of 
best date movies... 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:09:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 






A lot of people don't know their history or African American film history. So 
it doesn't register as being important to them. Only the here and now and not 
the predecessors. 

Same thing for music. It never dawned on a lot of younger folks that the music 
in the background of their new favorite song had a life of its own. 


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Really, really good movie. I knew Mario had directorial skills. Posse and 
New Jack City are shot with a sure hand: they both feel like real movies. 
But the way he handled the story of his father in Badass, and the way he was 
able to capture the look and feel of those times, not to mention starring as 
his own father while also being the director, is nothing short of impressive. I 
told every black person I could think of to watch that flick when it came out. 
Unfortunately I usually got blank stares, and queries as to the latest Will 
Smith or Halle Berry film. 
The fact that Badass didn't get nominated for any major awards is a crime and 
an indictment of the system that hands those things out... 


- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:57:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 







I own Baddasss and rewatch it religiously. 

~rave! 


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made 
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. 
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 
 
 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
 his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie 
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is 
 way more talented than usually given credit for being. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 

 From: Kelwyn ravena...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 
 
 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
 twos of the '70s. 
 
 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
I think that when black people think of movies they list black comedies such
as Coming to America or Fridays and not the dramas.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Yeah, I find that a lot. When I talk to black folk about film, I usually
 find that most are victims of only knowing about the mainstream movies, TV
 and theatre, that get all the buzz. If it's got Denzel, Halle, Will Smith,
 or now Beyonce, they know about it.  I usually trot out a handful of
 must-see's for them:

 Sankofa - moving tale of a woman whose spirit is sent back to slavery.
 First movie I ever saw where the slaves get to fight back! I am *stunned*
 how few black people have seen this wonderful movie

 Once Upon a Time When We Were Colored - nice little look at a pre-Civil
 Rights Southern town, starring the great actor Al Freeman, JR, and produced
 by Tim Reid and his wife Daphne

 To Sleep with Anger - Danny Glover as disruptive spirit in the home of his
 cousin and his family, great performances by all, especially former Law and
 Order actor Richard Brooks

 Killer of Sheep - gritty look at inner city life by To Sleep with Anger
 writer/director Charles Burnett.

 Eve's Bayou -  almost mystical tale with great performances by
 up-and-coming actress Jurnee Smollet and Meagan Good. Overlooked  because it
 had the misfortune to come out the same year as Soul Food, to which it was
 superior)
 Bada! - great way to know an hugely important part of black and
 American film history known by too few

 Brother from Another Planet - from master director John Sayles, an
 insightful movie, featuring one of Joe Morton's best performances--for all
 that he speaks not a word!

 Down on the Delta - Poet Maya Angelou directs a lovely tale of a family
 split between rural and big city members, and how simple it really is to
 heal the wounds and rifts. Nice acting by Wesley Snipes in a non action
 role.
 Passionfish - John Sayles shows that you don't have to make a black movie
 to have black actors that are real, fully fleshed out, and respectfully
 treated.

 Love Jones - Cool music, cool actors, Nia Long looking her best, and a fun,
 sexy love story. Always angers me this movie never shows up on anyone's list
 of best date movies...



 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:09:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time



 A lot of people don't know their history or African American film history.
 So it doesn't register as being important to them. Only the here and now and
 not the predecessors.

 Same thing for music. It never dawned on a lot of younger folks that the
 music in the background of their new favorite song had a life of its own.

 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 Really, really good movie. I knew Mario had directorial skills. Posse
 and New Jack City are shot with a sure hand: they both feel like real
 movies. But the way he handled the story of his father in Badass, and the
 way he was able to capture the look and feel of those times, not to mention
 starring as his own father while also being the director, is nothing short
 of impressive. I told every black person I could think of to watch that
 flick when it came out. Unfortunately I usually got blank stares, and
 queries as to the latest Will Smith or Halle Berry film.
 The fact that Badass didn't get nominated for any major awards is a
 crime and an indictment of the system that hands those things out...


 - Original Message -
 From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:57:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time



 I own Baddasss and rewatch it religiously.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Keith
 Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:
 
  Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as
 the completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it
 made more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black
 films. Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though...
 
  And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical
 telling of his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really
 good movie that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder
 that Mario is way more talented than usually given credit for being.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
And to be fair, it's not just black people. Most people just see what's 
marketed the most, what's in more theatres, what stars the most famous actors. 
it's just easier, i guess. Me, i tire of see the same actors, the same plots, 
the same directors' recognizable methods, so i seek out true indie, foreign, 
and low-budget fare. It appears a lot of people on this list do the same! 

Age-old question: Do blacks in general seek out comedies more than other 
ethnicities, or is that true across the board? 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:51:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 






I think that when black people think of movies they list black comedies such as 
Coming to America or Fridays and not the dramas. 


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Yeah, I find that a lot. When I talk to black folk about film, I usually find 
that most are victims of only knowing about the mainstream movies, TV and 
theatre, that get all the buzz. If it's got Denzel, Halle, Will Smith, or now 
Beyonce, they know about it. I usually trot out a handful of must-see's for 
them: 

Sankofa - moving tale of a woman whose spirit is sent back to slavery. First 
movie I ever saw where the slaves get to fight back! I am *stunned* how few 
black people have seen this wonderful movie 

Once Upon a Time When We Were Colored - nice little look at a pre-Civil Rights 
Southern town, starring the great actor Al Freeman, JR, and produced by Tim 
Reid and his wife Daphne 

To Sleep with Anger - Danny Glover as disruptive spirit in the home of his 
cousin and his family, great performances by all, especially former Law and 
Order actor Richard Brooks 

Killer of Sheep - gritty look at inner city life by To Sleep with Anger 
writer/director Charles Burnett. 

Eve's Bayou - almost mystical tale with great performances by up-and-coming 
actress Jurnee Smollet and Meagan Good. Overlooked because it had the 
misfortune to come out the same year as Soul Food, to which it was superior) 
Bada! - great way to know an hugely important part of black and American 
film history known by too few 

Brother from Another Planet - from master director John Sayles, an insightful 
movie, featuring one of Joe Morton's best performances--for all that he speaks 
not a word! 

Down on the Delta - Poet Maya Angelou directs a lovely tale of a family split 
between rural and big city members, and how simple it really is to heal the 
wounds and rifts. Nice acting by Wesley Snipes in a non action role. 
Passionfish - John Sayles shows that you don't have to make a black movie to 
have black actors that are real, fully fleshed out, and respectfully treated. 

Love Jones - Cool music, cool actors, Nia Long looking her best, and a fun, 
sexy love story. Always angers me this movie never shows up on anyone's list of 
best date movies... 



- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:09:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 









A lot of people don't know their history or African American film history. So 
it doesn't register as being important to them. Only the here and now and not 
the predecessors. 

Same thing for music. It never dawned on a lot of younger folks that the music 
in the background of their new favorite song had a life of its own. 


On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






Really, really good movie. I knew Mario had directorial skills. Posse and 
New Jack City are shot with a sure hand: they both feel like real movies. 
But the way he handled the story of his father in Badass, and the way he was 
able to capture the look and feel of those times, not to mention starring as 
his own father while also being the director, is nothing short of impressive. I 
told every black person I could think of to watch that flick when it came out. 
Unfortunately I usually got blank stares, and queries as to the latest Will 
Smith or Halle Berry film. 
The fact that Badass didn't get nominated for any major awards is a crime and 
an indictment of the system that hands those things out... 


- Original Message - 
From: Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:57:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 







I own Baddasss and rewatch it religiously. 

~rave! 


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made 
 more 

[scifinoir2] Men of A Certain Age Marathon on TNT

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
TNT is currently airing several eps of Men of a Certain Age, with the first 
season finale showing at 10 pm EST. If you've never seen the show, I highly 
recommend it. And you don't have to be a middle-aged man seeing his hopes and 
dreams slowing slipping away to enjoy it (though it is uncomfortably familiar 
for some). It's just a well-written, well acted show that deals with people 
trying to find purpose and happiness in life. I'm *still* not used to seeing 
Andre Braugher--who ruled Homicide like a feral predator--act as a uncertain, 
slightly weak man who can't stand up to his dad. I'm also still impressed to 
see that Ray Romano does so well as both dramatic actor, and 
producer/writer/creator of this series. 

http://www.tnt.tv/series/menofacertainage/ 




[scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread B Smith
I think Foxy Brown is the better movie of the two. Plus you have Antonio Fargas 
and Sid Haig chewing up the scenery in memorable roles.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:

 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time
 
 Interesting list.  No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
 twos of the '70s.  
 
 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
 Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies.  That said, 
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
 Blaxploitation boom.
 
 My personal top five:
 1)Shaft
 2)Superfly
 3)Coffy
 4)The Mack
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song





[scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
According to Melvin Van Peebles, the original production was of a white 
detective story, but after the success of Sweet Sweetback's Baadas Song 
(1971), the original script was scrapped in favor of an adaptation of Ernest 
Tidyman's 1970 novel Shaft, which focused on an African-American detective. 
Tidyman, who was white, was an editor at The New York Times prior to becoming a 
novelist. He sold the movie rights to Shaft by showing the galley proofs to the 
studio (the novel had not yet been published). Tidyman was honored by the NAACP 
for his work on the Shaft movies and books.

In 2000, Shaft was selected for preservation in the United States National Film 
Registry by the Library of Congress for being culturally, historically, or 
aesthetically significant.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 That's my thinking as well. And wasn't Shaft originally supposed to be a 
 white man? I do like that it was directed by incredibly talented 
 photographer, the late Gordon Parks. I guess that Shaft may be more well 
 known to the main than Sweetback. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:29:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sweetback was first, Shaft was second. Both are some of the most important 
 films in the black exploitation period. Sweetback originally had an X rating. 
 Which was given to force it to be shown to an adult only audience. Van 
 Peebles should get credit for not only making the first black rebel movie 
 but also being the first modern indie director. (Michealluex was the first.) 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@...  wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Good comments, Rave. I might put Sweetback at number 2 or number 1, as the 
 completion story behind it, and its phenomenal success (I believe it made 
 more money than Love Story) actually opened the way for other black films. 
 Not sure if it leads or follows Shaft in release dates, though... 
 
 And if you've never seen Baddasss, Mario's faithful biographical telling of 
 his dad's struggle to make Sweetback, please do so. A really good movie 
 that too few black people seem to have caught, and a reminder that Mario is 
 way more talented than usually given credit for being. 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kelwyn  ravena...@...  
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:18:53 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time 
 
 Interesting list. No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
 (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
 twos of the '70s. 
 
 And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By the 
 Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies. That said, 
 Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused the 
 Blaxploitation boom. 
 
 My personal top five: 
 1)Shaft 
 2)Superfly 
 3)Coffy 
 4)The Mack 
 5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
 Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/





[scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
For me, this is like arguing whether Godfather 1 or Godfather 2 is the better 
movie.  Of course, Godfather 2 is a great, operatic movie but nothing compares 
with the visceral pulp impact of Godfather 1.  I would argue the same regarding 
Coffy and Foxy Brown.  Brown may be a better movie (I don't concede that) but 
nothing will ever compare with seeing Pam Grier twenty feet tall (and naked) 
for the first time.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote:

 I think Foxy Brown is the better movie of the two. Plus you have Antonio 
 Fargas and Sid Haig chewing up the scenery in memorable roles.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote:
 
  http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time
  
  Interesting list.  No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than Coffy 
  (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most famous 
  twos of the '70s.  
  
  And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat By 
  the Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies.  That 
  said, Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that 
  caused the Blaxploitation boom.
  
  My personal top five:
  1)Shaft
  2)Superfly
  3)Coffy
  4)The Mack
  5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song
 





[scifinoir2] Black Folks We'd Like to Remove from Black History

2010-02-22 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.theroot.com/multimedia/black-folks-wed-remove-black-history



[scifinoir2] Koenig Says Son May Not Want to Be Found

2010-02-22 Thread Keith Johnson
Well, at least in the last day they've seemed to conclude he's likely still 
alive... 

** 
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/vancouver/2010-02-22-actor-koenig-missing_N.htm
 


VANCOUVER — To the hundreds of joggers, bicyclists and strollers enjoying the 
sunshine in Stanley Park , the police on horseback could have passed as a small 
part of the $900 million security effort for the Winter Olympics. 

In fact, the mounted officers and dozens of other investigators dispatched 
throughout the city have an altogether different mission: they are part of a 
growing search for American actor Andrew Koenig, reported missing last 
Thursday. 

Koenig, 41, known for his role on the television series Growing Pains , was 
scheduled to return to his home in Venice, Calif., Feb. 16. But police 
Constable Tim Fanning said Koenig never boarded the airplane at Vancouver 
International Airport . 

Investigators believe Koenig still is in the Vancouver area where he once lived 
and doesn't want to be found, Fanning says. 

Fanning said friends and relatives said Koenig was feeling despondent before 
he went missing while visiting friends. Fanning said the actor's trip to 
Vancouver was not related to the Olympics. 

In a statement posted on his website, Walter Koenig , the missing man's father, 
said he received a troubling letter from his son Feb. 16. 

The father, also an actor, said he grew concerned about his son's welfare 
because of the letter's despondent tone. 

I think it's something that has been part of his makeup for a long time, the 
father said, adding that drugs were not involved. There is no episode (that 
triggered his depression). There is nothing of that nature. 

The last time the family heard from Koenig by phone was Feb. 9, according to 
the father's website. 

Koenig is best known for playing the role of Richard Boner Stabone on the 
former television series Growing Pains, which ran for seven years beginning in 
1985. 

His father's website also describes him as a producer, director, writer, 
editor and photographer. 

Fanning said investigators have focused part of their search in Stanley Park, a 
vast swath of urban open space, where Koenig liked to walk and was last seen 
Feb. 14. 

Police have combed the more than 150 miles of trails in the park on horseback 
and on foot. 

They also have been monitoring activity on his credit card and cellphone. 
Fanning declined to comment on whether the card and phone were being used. But 
he said investigators believe Koenig is still in the Vancouver area. 

According to the father's website, Koenig's phone last received a text message 
Feb. 16. He also made a bank transaction on the same day. 

Fanning said police went public with their search Sunday, in part to solicit 
new information about the man's possible whereabouts. 

Even as the police department has deployed hundreds of its officers to the 
streets to deal with massive Olympic crowds, Fanning said the department would 
continue to dedicate personnel to the search. 

We will use as many as we think will be helpful, the constable said. 

Koenig is described as 5-feet-5 inches tall and 135 pounds, with long, brown 
shoulder-length hair. 

Fanning said family members were en route to Vancouver to assist police. 

Obviously, he does not want to be found, the constable said. 


[scifinoir2] The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms available this week!

2010-02-22 Thread Nora
Apologies for the crosspost, folks; just trying to be efficient in my
shameless self-promotion.  =)

I can has book!  My first novel, THE HUNDRED THOUSAND KINGDOMS, first of the
Inheritance Trilogy, is officially available as of February 25th.  It's
actually available already in many bookstores and from Amazon, if you don't
want to wait: 
http://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Thousand-Kingdoms-N-Jemisin/dp/0316043915

A saga of gods and mortals, power and love, death and revenge, THE HUNDRED
THOUSAND KINGDOMS follows Yeine, a young woman who is an estranged member of
the most powerful family in the world.  At her mother's death, she's dragged
back into the family politics, and must ally with the source of their power
-- a quartet of enslaved gods -- to survive.

Despite the shamelessness of this message, I'm actually not great at talking
myself up, so I'll just refer you to my website (http://nkjemisin.com),
where you can find:
-A synopsis
-Sample chapters
-Some of the great reviews the book has been getting, including a starred
review from Publisher's Weekly and Library Journal, and a Top Pick from
Romantic times
-Contests, interviews, and more!

Please take a look-see, and spread the word!

Nora (N. K. Jemisin)

-- 
The gods, enslaved.  A family with absolute power, absolutely corrupt.  A
young woman whose rage can save the world.

THE HUNDRED THOUSAND KINGDOMS, out now from Orbit Books!
http://nkjemisin.com




Re: [scifinoir2] Black Folks We'd Like to Remove from Black History

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
This is a good list.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.theroot.com/multimedia/black-folks-wed-remove-black-history



 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fifty best Blaxploitation Movies of All Time

2010-02-22 Thread Mr. Worf
Here is one that didn't make the list. Wattstax. The making of this movie
was timely and covered several topics that are still relevant. Most people
have seen the music part of the film, and not the interviews which are
golden. Richard Pryor, Ted Lange etc.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 For me, this is like arguing whether Godfather 1 or Godfather 2 is the
 better movie.  Of course, Godfather 2 is a great, operatic movie but nothing
 compares with the visceral pulp impact of Godfather 1.  I would argue the
 same regarding Coffy and Foxy Brown.  Brown may be a better movie (I don't
 concede that) but nothing will ever compare with seeing Pam Grier twenty
 feet tall (and naked) for the first time.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote:
 
  I think Foxy Brown is the better movie of the two. Plus you have Antonio
 Fargas and Sid Haig chewing up the scenery in memorable roles.
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote:
  
  
 http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Best-Blaxploitation-Movies-of-All-Time
  
   Interesting list.  No way Foxy Brown (3) should be rated higher than
 Coffy (14), since, as the authors' note, Coffy is the debut of the most
 famous twos of the '70s.
  
   And, to quibble, Cooley High, Uptown Saturday Night, The Spook Who Sat
 By the Door and Shaft are REAL movies and not blaxploitation movies.  That
 said, Shaft should be number one on this list as it is the movie that caused
 the Blaxploitation boom.
  
   My personal top five:
   1)Shaft
   2)Superfly
   3)Coffy
   4)The Mack
   5)Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song
  
 




 

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Re: [scifinoir2] The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms available this week!

2010-02-22 Thread Amy Harlib

ahar...@earthlink.net
Can't wait to get my copy!
Cheers!
Amy
I just adore this type of fantasy!

Subject: [scifinoir2] The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms available this week!


 Apologies for the crosspost, folks; just trying to be efficient in my
 shameless self-promotion.  =)

 I can has book!  My first novel, THE HUNDRED THOUSAND KINGDOMS, first of 
 the
 Inheritance Trilogy, is officially available as of February 25th.  It's
 actually available already in many bookstores and from Amazon, if you 
 don't
 want to wait:
 http://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Thousand-Kingdoms-N-Jemisin/dp/0316043915

 A saga of gods and mortals, power and love, death and revenge, THE HUNDRED
 THOUSAND KINGDOMS follows Yeine, a young woman who is an estranged member 
 of
 the most powerful family in the world.  At her mother's death, she's 
 dragged
 back into the family politics, and must ally with the source of their 
 power
 -- a quartet of enslaved gods -- to survive.

 Despite the shamelessness of this message, I'm actually not great at 
 talking
 myself up, so I'll just refer you to my website (http://nkjemisin.com),
 where you can find:
 -A synopsis
 -Sample chapters
 -Some of the great reviews the book has been getting, including a starred
 review from Publisher's Weekly and Library Journal, and a Top Pick from
 Romantic times
 -Contests, interviews, and more!

 Please take a look-see, and spread the word!

 Nora (N. K. Jemisin)

 -- 
 The gods, enslaved.  A family with absolute power, absolutely corrupt.  A
 young woman whose rage can save the world.

 THE HUNDRED THOUSAND KINGDOMS, out now from Orbit Books!
 http://nkjemisin.com




 

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