Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
Hmmm there's a story. The progeny of T.Boone Pickens and Paris Hilton. :)

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart.  People continue to
 earn substantially above living wages in the oil industry.  Walmart lowers
 everyone's wages.

 I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas.  I
 stand by my China statement.

 By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One
 of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the
 decision to repopulate the world with billionaires.

 If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what
 it is.  Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of
 Waltons down in Bentonville?  (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a
 millionaire?  Start as a billionaire).

 This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves.  Somebody has got to do
 the work on the other side.

 ~rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:
 
 
  You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of iPhone in this
  piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt
  costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not
  ATT customers,  Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas.
  Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which
  makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are
  something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one
  form of exploitation is better than another.
 
 
  Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States,
  you lower your standard of living.
 
  On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote:
 
   Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell
   or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after
   Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit.
  
   Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8
   to 10 to a dorm room?
  
   What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300?
  
   Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here.
   We purchase our future subjugation.
  
   Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the
   number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of
   America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8
   hours is courtesy of Walmart.
  
   Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of
   living.
  
   ~(no)rave!
  
   --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
   wrote:
   
Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One
   covered Malaysia
and how so many companies have left their for China because China
   was even
cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the
   billions that
was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and
mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The
   reporter's
name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now.
   
There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a
   search on
China pulled up 403 pages of videos!
   
You can also check it out on their website at:
http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/
   
One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff
   that
doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get
   covered by
them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they
   attacked the US
boat.
   
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter
   martinbaxter7@wrote:
   


 Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was
   on? I'll keep
 an eye out for it.

 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf
   HelloMahogany@wrote:



 Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on
   Current tv?

 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter
   martinbaxter7@wrote:



 Why does this NOT surprise me?


 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote:




 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant-
   china-deaths-suicides

 Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today
   at an
 industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of
   the world's mobile
 phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were
   bolted into the walls
 below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually
   cover 1.5m square
 metres.

 To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the
   Taiwanese
 electronics company Foxconn †which works with Apple, Dell
   and Sony †has
 also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered
   counselling to its 420,000
 employees here.




 --
 If all the world's a stage 

[scifinoir2] Russia Elects First Black Politician

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
 Russia Elects First Black Politician Posted by
adminhttp://www.overthelimit.info/author/admin/on July 26, 2010 0
Commenthttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#respond

For the first time in their history, Russia has elected a black man to hold
political office. Jean Gregoire Sagbo was elected as a councilman in
Novozavidovo. Sagbo, who was born in
Africahttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#,
has lived in Novozavidovo for 21 years and raised his family there. Russia
has a history of extreme racial violence, making this election a significant
milestone.

Sagbo made many key promises for the impoverished town, saying he wants to
curb drug addiction, put heating in homes, and clean up pollution.
Vyacheslav Arakelov, the mayor of Novozavidovo, says that Sagbo is Russian
inside and that he cares deeply for his hometown. Sagbo will be one of ten
councilmen for the city.

Sagbo came to Russia in 1982 to study economics when the country was still
under Soviet rule. His wife is from Novozavidovo originally, and they raised
their two children there. Sagbo works as a real estate negotiator, and his
council position will be unpaid. After initially having no desire to pursue
politicshttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#,
he was persuaded to run by residents of the town. While Russia has a
checkered racial history, Sagbo says he hasn’t felt any racism. Once a
prosperous town, Novozavidovo suffered after the fall of
Communismhttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#.
Sagbo hopes to do his part to rebuild the town.


-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/


Re: [scifinoir2] Russia Elects First Black Politician

2010-07-27 Thread Amy Harlib

ahar...@earthlink.net
Thanks for that!  Glad to know this.
Amy





Russia Elects First Black Politician
Posted by admin on July 26, 2010 0 Comment 
For the first time in their history, Russia has elected a black man to hold 
political office. Jean Gregoire Sagbo was elected as a councilman in 
Novozavidovo. Sagbo, who was born in Africa, has lived in Novozavidovo for 21 
years and raised his family there. Russia has a history of extreme racial 
violence, making this election a significant milestone.

Sagbo made many key promises for the impoverished town, saying he wants to curb 
drug addiction, put heating in homes, and clean up pollution. Vyacheslav 
Arakelov, the mayor of Novozavidovo, says that Sagbo is Russian inside and that 
he cares deeply for his hometown. Sagbo will be one of ten councilmen for the 
city.

Sagbo came to Russia in 1982 to study economics when the country was still 
under Soviet rule. His wife is from Novozavidovo originally, and they raised 
their two children there. Sagbo works as a real estate negotiator, and his 
council position will be unpaid. After initially having no desire to pursue 
politics, he was persuaded to run by residents of the town. While Russia has a 
checkered racial history, Sagbo says he hasn’t felt any racism. Once a 
prosperous town, Novozavidovo suffered after the fall of Communism. Sagbo hopes 
to do his part to rebuild the town. 



-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/





Re: [scifinoir2] Russia Elects First Black Politician

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
Mr Worf, I'd love to know what compelled him to make that move.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Russia Elects First Black Politician Posted by 
 adminhttp://www.overthelimit.info/author/admin/on July 26, 2010 0
 Commenthttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#respond

 For the first time in their history, Russia has elected a black man to hold
 political office. Jean Gregoire Sagbo was elected as a councilman in
 Novozavidovo. Sagbo, who was born in 
 Africahttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#,
 has lived in Novozavidovo for 21 years and raised his family there. Russia
 has a history of extreme racial violence, making this election a significant
 milestone.

 Sagbo made many key promises for the impoverished town, saying he wants to
 curb drug addiction, put heating in homes, and clean up pollution.
 Vyacheslav Arakelov, the mayor of Novozavidovo, says that Sagbo is Russian
 inside and that he cares deeply for his hometown. Sagbo will be one of ten
 councilmen for the city.

 Sagbo came to Russia in 1982 to study economics when the country was still
 under Soviet rule. His wife is from Novozavidovo originally, and they raised
 their two children there. Sagbo works as a real estate negotiator, and his
 council position will be unpaid. After initially having no desire to pursue
 politicshttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#,
 he was persuaded to run by residents of the town. While Russia has a
 checkered racial history, Sagbo says he hasn’t felt any racism. Once a
 prosperous town, Novozavidovo suffered after the fall of 
 Communismhttp://www.overthelimit.info/curiosity/2010/07/26/russia-elects-first-black-politician/#.
 Sagbo hopes to do his part to rebuild the town.


 --
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
Also the stuff of nightmares...

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hmmm there's a story. The progeny of T.Boone Pickens and Paris Hilton. :)

 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart.  People continue to
 earn substantially above living wages in the oil industry.  Walmart lowers
 everyone's wages.

 I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas.  I
 stand by my China statement.

 By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One
 of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the
 decision to repopulate the world with billionaires.

 If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what
 it is.  Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of
 Waltons down in Bentonville?  (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a
 millionaire?  Start as a billionaire).

 This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves.  Somebody has got to
 do the work on the other side.

 ~rave!


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:
 
 
  You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of iPhone in this
  piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt
  costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not
  ATT customers,  Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas.
  Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which
  makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are
  something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one
  form of exploitation is better than another.
 
 
  Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States,
  you lower your standard of living.
 
  On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote:
 
   Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell
   or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after
   Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit.
  
   Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8
   to 10 to a dorm room?
  
   What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300?
  
   Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here.
   We purchase our future subjugation.
  
   Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the
   number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of
   America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8
   hours is courtesy of Walmart.
  
   Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of
   living.
  
   ~(no)rave!
  
   --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
   wrote:
   
Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One
   covered Malaysia
and how so many companies have left their for China because China
   was even
cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the
   billions that
was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and
mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The
   reporter's
name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now.
   
There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a
   search on
China pulled up 403 pages of videos!
   
You can also check it out on their website at:
http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/
   
One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff
   that
doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get
   covered by
them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they
   attacked the US
boat.
   
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter
   martinbaxter7@wrote:
   


 Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was
   on? I'll keep
 an eye out for it.

 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf
   HelloMahogany@wrote:



 Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on
   Current tv?

 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter
   martinbaxter7@wrote:



 Why does this NOT surprise me?


 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote:




 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant-
   china-deaths-suicides

 Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today
   at an
 industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of
   the world's mobile
 phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were
   bolted into the walls
 below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually
   cover 1.5m square
 metres.

 To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the
   Taiwanese
 electronics company Foxconn †which works with Apple, Dell
   and Sony †has
 also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered
  

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Love your i-Phone? Somebody died to get it to you

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
More wisdom from your keys, rave!

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 There is no comparison between Big Oil and Walmart. People continue to earn
 substantially above living wages in the oil industry. Walmart lowers
 everyone's wages.

 I know Walmart's official headquarters are in Bentonville, Arkansas. I
 stand by my China statement.

 By the by, 2012 has been playing in heavy rotation on cable recently. One
 of the most ridiculous things in a movie full of ridiculous things is the
 decision to repopulate the world with billionaires.

 If there is anything more worthless than a billionaire, I don't know what
 it is. Can you imagine trying to rebuild the world with that sorry bunch of
 Waltons down in Bentonville? (Riddle: what is the easiest way to become a
 millionaire? Start as a billionaire).

 This is why they buried Pharaohs with their slaves. Somebody has got to do
 the work on the other side.


 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Daryle
 Lockhart dar...@... wrote:
 
 
  You can fill in ANY popular product in the place of iPhone in this
  piece. The iPhone 3G, Apple's most popular unit, is $99. It no doubt
  costs around $20 to make. The $300 prices are for people who are not
  ATT customers, Wal-Mart's corporate headquarters are in Arkansas.
  Bentonville. I've been there. They have a NEW office in China, which
  makes sense, as it's their number one market. Their profits are
  something, but nothing compared to the oil companies. Not to say one
  form of exploitation is better than another.
 
 
  Every time you fill your tank with oil refined in the United States,
  you lower your standard of living.
 
  On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Kelwyn wrote:
 
   Foxcomm (Hon Hai) generates more revenue in a year than Apple, Dell
   or Microsoft. Foxcomm won Apple's order to make the iPhone after
   Foxcomm directed the business units to sell parts at zero profit.
  
   Can you imagine 420,000 workers paid subsistence wages and jammed 8
   to 10 to a dorm room?
  
   What I want to know is why do these phones still cost $300?
  
   Lastly, business practices oversees are eventually imported here.
   We purchase our future subjugation.
  
   Walmart moved their corporate headquarters to China. Walmart is the
   number one company in America and this has led to the Walmarting of
   America: collecting overtime after 40 hours instead of after 8
   hours is courtesy of Walmart.
  
   Every time you shop at Walmart you are lowering your standard of
   living.
  
   ~(no)rave!
  
   --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Mr.
 Worf HelloMahogany@
   wrote:
   
Vanguard. They did a series of shows on Asia and China. One
   covered Malaysia
and how so many companies have left their for China because China
   was even
cheaper. (they tried to squeeze a few tax dollars out of the
   billions that
was there and the manufactures left!) Then he covered Hong Kong, and
mainland China. I think it was all together 4 or 5 shows. The
   reporter's
name is Adam Yamaguchi. He's covering India right now.
   
There's a ton of other videos on the site as well. Just doing a
   search on
China pulled up 403 pages of videos!
   
You can also check it out on their website at:
http://current.com/shows/vanguard/episodes/
   
One of the things that I like about them is that they cover stuff
   that
doesn't get covered in the regular news channel and may NEVER get
   covered by
them. One reporter covered Somali pirates a year before they
   attacked the US
boat.
   
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Martin Baxter
   martinbaxter7@wrote:
   


 Missed that one, Mr Worf. What's the name of the show it was
   on? I'll keep
 an eye out for it.

 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Mr. Worf
   HelloMahogany@wrote:



 Did anyone see the story about factory closures in China on
   Current tv?

 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter
   martinbaxter7@wrote:



 Why does this NOT surprise me?


 On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote:




 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/28/foxconn-plant-
   china-deaths-suicides

 Construction workers began erecting anti-suicide nets today
   at an
 industrial plant in southern China that makes millions of
   the world's mobile
 phones and computers. Five-metre long steel poles were
   bolted into the walls
 below the roofs to support webbing that will eventually
   cover 1.5m square
 metres.

 To stem an epidemic of workers leaping to their deaths, the
   Taiwanese
 electronics company Foxconn †which works with Apple, Dell
   and Sony †has
 also pledged to raise salaries by 20% and offered
   counselling to its 420,000
 employees here.




 --
 If all the 

Re: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
I thought that campaign was just a nightmare I'd had, Keith...

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:

 Look, when they come up with something as incredibly lame and confusing is
 I am a PC, and Windows 7 was my idea, nothing surprises me about their
 marketing campaign!


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:04:01 PM
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse



 This says something... what, I have yet to determine.

 ===

 Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse

 JR Raphael, PC World http://www.pcworld.com/

 Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm

 [image: Microsoft Tagline - Windows]Grab your 
 churroshttp://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007740.htmland get ready 
 to party like it's Windows
 7 launch day http://www.esarcasm.com/5502/windows-7-launch/: Microsoft
 is taking on a new identity.

 The Windows wizards announced a new corporate tagline during a meeting with
 employees this week, a Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed. So, are you
 ready for the million-dollar phrase?

 Be what's next.

 Yep -- that's it. I'm assuming they aren't talking about the Microsoft 
 Kinhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/200323/microsoft_kin_a_not_so_fond_farewell.html
 .


 More at:
 http://www.pcworld.com/article/201708/microsofts_new_slogan_hey_it_could_be_worse.html?tk=nl_wbx_h_crawl1


 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
[?][?][?][?]

I don't know what that says about humanity.

And, frankly, I don't want to know.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 What brought this home for me was years ago when I created a female
 heroine. Being a man, I wrote her like I would write a male lead character.
 My beta readers told me she was unlikeable. I didn't change a thing about
 her characterization but I inserted a rape scene. Almost to a person, male
 and female, told me they found my character more likable.

 Go figure.

 ~rave?


 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Adrianne
 Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote:
 
  Weighing in as a chick who HAS been date raped and assaulted in the past,
  which unfortunately gives me Clue +2...
 
  It would depend on how the movie does it. Is it a realistic scenario?
  Unfortunately yes. Get a tough girl and the first thing a guy's going to
 do
  if he captures her is precisely that, because it's a matter of power and
  asserting said power. Is it ugly? Is it violence against women? Yes. But
  it's a reflection of our culture.
 
  One can argue what's the reflection of our culture versus our culture
 being
  influenced by movies like this but once again...depends on how it's done.
 If
  it glorifies it and makes her oh-so-sexy while it's going on...then I
 have
  VERY serious problems with it. Otherwise you're looking at a realistic
  portrayal of the sort of circumstances an actual woman would face under
 such
  conditions.
 
  There ya go, my $0.02 worth.
 
 
  ~ Where love and magic meet ~
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com
  Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
  Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
  The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote:

 
  
  
   Again, not disputing it's an issue, I just think that in context of
 this
   film--spies, espionage, rogue states--the torture/beating makes sense.
 I can
   see it having been done to a man in this context. Indeed, isn't Salt
 based
   on a character that was originally envisioned as a man? I wonder if the
   torture scene was there for his incarnation. I'd argue in this case
 they may
   even have toned down the torture since it was a woman, as with a man
 they'd
   have shown the actually beating and torture in more graphic detail.
  
   This may be the exception that proves the rule.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Kelwyn ravena...@...
   To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:51:59 AM
   Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
  
  
  
   I knew somebody was going to play the Pierce Brosnan card. The
 difference
   is that, particularly in the Bond films, this is an anomaly - usually
 the
   Bond torture comes at the end of the film (see Casino Royale) not the
   beginning.
  
   One would be hand-pressed to name a female actioner where this doesn't
   begin this way. And, if you can name one it probably underperformed at
 the
   box office. Angelina Jolie's first Tomb Raider movie is a notable
 exception.
  
   ~rave!
  
   --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
   scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2%
 40yahoogroups.com, Keith

   Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
   
I'm not arguing that trend, but I am arguing that in this case it may
   have been justified and appropriate for the film. The point was she was
   captured by an enemy government. I liken it to the last Bond flick with
   Pierce Brosnan, who was similarly tortured by the North Koreans. Wasn't
 he
   also stripped down to his skivvies? In this case maybe it was simply
 tell a
   good believable story, and not an intent to titillate the audience?
Of course, I don't find the anorexic-looking Jolie sexy anyway, so
 any
   intended titillation would go over my head, even if seeing a woman
 bound was
   a thing that turned me on (and it's not).
- Original Message -
From: Kelwyn ravenadal@
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comscifinoir2%
 40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:28:00 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Salt in your eye
   
   
   
   
   
   
It is not the severity of the abuse I am commenting on. It is the
   necessity of the abuse before we, the viewers, can accept Salt as a
 kick-ass
   avenger. This is not de rigueur in male action films where the impetus
 is
   usually a woman (wife, daughter, girlfriend) who has been killed,
 kidnapped
   and/or raped. In female action films, it is the heroine herself who
 must be
   (nearly) killed, kidnapped and/or raped.
   
~(no)rave!
   
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Highlander

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
... but I have to wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.

(Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).

rave, you've hit the nail on the head! Also explains the U_e B__l
Phenomenon...

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I often enjoy the serendipity of the random movie playlist that my full
 complement of ATT-Uverse movie channels offer me.

 Today I was able to watch Our Man Flint, the first and better of the two
 James Coburn Bond parodies. and the first Highlander movie.

 Watching Our Man Flint (1966) is like watching an episode of Mad Men.
 It is so wrong it is good. Coburn's Flint remains insufferably superior and
 efficient.

 Watching Highlander (1986) is a decidedly 80's experience. I loved this
 movie when it came out but it is hilariously overblown. Since me and mine
 saw and quote this movie often, I was surprised to learn this movie only
 grossed $5,900,000 at the box office.

 Highlander 2 (1991) $15,556,340

 Highlnader 3 (1995) $12,303,000

 Highlander 4 (2000) $15,843,608 ($25 million budget)

 This was quite a franchise (with the television series) but I have to
 wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.

 (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).

 ~rave?

  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


[scifinoir2] ICON A5 design enhancements announced, edges closer to production

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
ICON A5 design enhancements announced, edges closer to production

By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/

*01:22 July 27, 2010*

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[scifinoir2] Nanotechnology and stem cells rejuvenate arteries

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
Nanotechnology and stem cells rejuvenate arteries

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*10:12 July 26, 2010*
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Re: [scifinoir2] Highlander

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
I think they still make Highlander movies because of the fanbase. Plus the
tv show was on for years. There are still diehard fans that will go see
another Highlander movie despite the ridiculous storylines.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 ... but I have to wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.

 (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).

 rave, you've hit the nail on the head! Also explains the U_e B__l
 Phenomenon...

 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I often enjoy the serendipity of the random movie playlist that my full
 complement of ATT-Uverse movie channels offer me.

 Today I was able to watch Our Man Flint, the first and better of the two
 James Coburn Bond parodies. and the first Highlander movie.

 Watching Our Man Flint (1966) is like watching an episode of Mad Men.
 It is so wrong it is good. Coburn's Flint remains insufferably superior and
 efficient.

 Watching Highlander (1986) is a decidedly 80's experience. I loved this
 movie when it came out but it is hilariously overblown. Since me and mine
 saw and quote this movie often, I was surprised to learn this movie only
 grossed $5,900,000 at the box office.

 Highlander 2 (1991) $15,556,340

 Highlnader 3 (1995) $12,303,000

 Highlander 4 (2000) $15,843,608 ($25 million budget)

 This was quite a franchise (with the television series) but I have to
 wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.

 (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).

 ~rave?




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


 




-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/


[scifinoir2] Re: Highlander

2010-07-27 Thread Kelwyn
But how do you keep making sequels when none of them make money?  The last 
sequel cost $25 million and made $15 million.  

~rave?

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 I think they still make Highlander movies because of the fanbase. Plus the
 tv show was on for years. There are still diehard fans that will go see
 another Highlander movie despite the ridiculous storylines.
 
 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  ... but I have to wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.
 
  (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).
 
  rave, you've hit the nail on the head! Also explains the U_e B__l
  Phenomenon...
 
  On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I often enjoy the serendipity of the random movie playlist that my full
  complement of ATT-Uverse movie channels offer me.
 
  Today I was able to watch Our Man Flint, the first and better of the two
  James Coburn Bond parodies. and the first Highlander movie.
 
  Watching Our Man Flint (1966) is like watching an episode of Mad Men.
  It is so wrong it is good. Coburn's Flint remains insufferably superior and
  efficient.
 
  Watching Highlander (1986) is a decidedly 80's experience. I loved this
  movie when it came out but it is hilariously overblown. Since me and mine
  saw and quote this movie often, I was surprised to learn this movie only
  grossed $5,900,000 at the box office.
 
  Highlander 2 (1991) $15,556,340
 
  Highlnader 3 (1995) $12,303,000
 
  Highlander 4 (2000) $15,843,608 ($25 million budget)
 
  This was quite a franchise (with the television series) but I have to
  wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.
 
  (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).
 
  ~rave?
 
 
 
 
  --
  If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
  wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/





Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Highlander

2010-07-27 Thread Justin Mohareb
Is that domestic, or worldwide?  And does it include tv rights  DVD sales?

It was a horrible movie, and it was the last one, so if may have bern the last 
nail in the franchise's coffin, of perhaps its decapitating cut. 

Justin

On 2010-07-27, at 11:11 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 But how do you keep making sequels when none of them make money? The last 
 sequel cost $25 million and made $15 million. 
 
 ~rave?
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  I think they still make Highlander movies because of the fanbase. Plus the
  tv show was on for years. There are still diehard fans that will go see
  another Highlander movie despite the ridiculous storylines.
  
  On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:
  
  
  
   ... but I have to wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.
  
   (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).
  
   rave, you've hit the nail on the head! Also explains the U_e B__l
   Phenomenon...
  
   On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
  
  
  
   I often enjoy the serendipity of the random movie playlist that my full
   complement of ATT-Uverse movie channels offer me.
  
   Today I was able to watch Our Man Flint, the first and better of the 
   two
   James Coburn Bond parodies. and the first Highlander movie.
  
   Watching Our Man Flint (1966) is like watching an episode of Mad Men.
   It is so wrong it is good. Coburn's Flint remains insufferably superior 
   and
   efficient.
  
   Watching Highlander (1986) is a decidedly 80's experience. I loved this
   movie when it came out but it is hilariously overblown. Since me and mine
   saw and quote this movie often, I was surprised to learn this movie only
   grossed $5,900,000 at the box office.
  
   Highlander 2 (1991) $15,556,340
  
   Highlnader 3 (1995) $12,303,000
  
   Highlander 4 (2000) $15,843,608 ($25 million budget)
  
   This was quite a franchise (with the television series) but I have to
   wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.
  
   (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).
  
   ~rave?
  
  
  
  
   --
   If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
   wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  -- 
  Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
  Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
 
 
 


Re: [scifinoir2] Highlander

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
They CAN do better story lines. Just put Peter Davis, the surviving member
of the production company in charge of Highlander: The Series, on the job.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I think they still make Highlander movies because of the fanbase. Plus the
 tv show was on for years. There are still diehard fans that will go see
 another Highlander movie despite the ridiculous storylines.

 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 ... but I have to wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.

 (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).

 rave, you've hit the nail on the head! Also explains the U_e B__l
 Phenomenon...

 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I often enjoy the serendipity of the random movie playlist that my full
 complement of ATT-Uverse movie channels offer me.

 Today I was able to watch Our Man Flint, the first and better of the
 two James Coburn Bond parodies. and the first Highlander movie.

 Watching Our Man Flint (1966) is like watching an episode of Mad Men.
 It is so wrong it is good. Coburn's Flint remains insufferably superior and
 efficient.

 Watching Highlander (1986) is a decidedly 80's experience. I loved this
 movie when it came out but it is hilariously overblown. Since me and mine
 saw and quote this movie often, I was surprised to learn this movie only
 grossed $5,900,000 at the box office.

 Highlander 2 (1991) $15,556,340

 Highlnader 3 (1995) $12,303,000

 Highlander 4 (2000) $15,843,608 ($25 million budget)

 This was quite a franchise (with the television series) but I have to
 wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.

 (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty money).

 ~rave?




 --
 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
 wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





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 Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
 Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
  




-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


Re: [scifinoir2] ICON A5 design enhancements announced, edges closer to production

2010-07-27 Thread Martin Baxter
Was I ever drooling over a Bugatti Veyron? I should've been marinating THIS.
[?][?]

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 ICON A5 design enhancements announced, edges closer to production

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Highlander

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
It depends on how you do the numbers. Someone posted about that last week
about how movies that made billions were still considered losers.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 But how do you keep making sequels when none of them make money?  The last
 sequel cost $25 million and made $15 million.

 ~rave?

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  I think they still make Highlander movies because of the fanbase. Plus
 the
  tv show was on for years. There are still diehard fans that will go see
  another Highlander movie despite the ridiculous storylines.
 
  On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@...wrote:
 
  
  
   ... but I have to wonder why or how they continued to make these
 movies.
  
   (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty
 money).
  
   rave, you've hit the nail on the head! Also explains the U_e B__l
   Phenomenon...
  
   On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
  
  
  
   I often enjoy the serendipity of the random movie playlist that my
 full
   complement of ATT-Uverse movie channels offer me.
  
   Today I was able to watch Our Man Flint, the first and better of the
 two
   James Coburn Bond parodies. and the first Highlander movie.
  
   Watching Our Man Flint (1966) is like watching an episode of Mad
 Men.
   It is so wrong it is good. Coburn's Flint remains insufferably
 superior and
   efficient.
  
   Watching Highlander (1986) is a decidedly 80's experience. I loved
 this
   movie when it came out but it is hilariously overblown. Since me and
 mine
   saw and quote this movie often, I was surprised to learn this movie
 only
   grossed $5,900,000 at the box office.
  
   Highlander 2 (1991) $15,556,340
  
   Highlnader 3 (1995) $12,303,000
  
   Highlander 4 (2000) $15,843,608 ($25 million budget)
  
   This was quite a franchise (with the television series) but I have to
   wonder why or how they continued to make these movies.
  
   (Outside of my theory that most movies are made to launder dirty
 money).
  
   ~rave?
  
  
  
  
   --
   If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell
   wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
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[scifinoir2] O/T More info on SAIC motors

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=600104.SS

They are trading at $14.45 right now.

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Re: [scifinoir2] ICON A5 design enhancements announced, edges closer to production

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
Check out this flight video!
http://www.iconaircraft.com/video-a5-flight-1.html

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Was I ever drooling over a Bugatti Veyron? I should've been marinating
 THIS. [?][?]


 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 ICON A5 design enhancements announced, edges closer to production

 By Darren Quick http://www.gizmag.com/author/darren-quick/

 *01:22 July 27, 2010*

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 plane at Oshkosh/EAA 
 Airve...]http://www.gizmag.com/improvements-to-icon-aircraft-a5/15835/picture/118375/

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[scifinoir2] The New Judge Dredd

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Trek-s-Doctor-Karl-Urban-Will-Be-The-New-Judge-Dredd-19837.html



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Re: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse

2010-07-27 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah it's pretty bad. Another I just don't get is that He is...the most 
interesting man in the world, for Dos Equis. That is, I get the idea, i just 
don't respond to it. I know a lot of guys who love it, but I don't laugh or 
anything at His mom has a tattoo that reads 'son', or, if he hit you, you'd 
have to resist the urge to thank him. 

Not sure what was going on in the room when the ad boys tossed ideas around for 
that one... 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:06:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse 






I thought that campaign was just a nightmare I'd had, Keith... 


On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 




Look, when they come up with something as incredibly lame and confusing is I 
am a PC, and Windows 7 was my idea, nothing surprises me about their marketing 
campaign! 




- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:04:01 PM 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse 






This says something... what, I have yet to determine. 

=== 

Microsoft's New Slogan: Hey, It Could Be Worse 


JR Raphael, PC World 

Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm 

Microsoft Tagline - WindowsGrab your churros and get ready to party like it's 
Windows 7 launch day : Microsoft is taking on a new identity. 

The Windows wizards announced a new corporate tagline during a meeting with 
employees this week, a Microsoft spokesperson has confirmed. So, are you ready 
for the million-dollar phrase? 

Be what's next. 

Yep -- that's it. I'm assuming they aren't talking about the Microsoft Kin . 




More at: 
http://www.pcworld.com/article/201708/microsofts_new_slogan_hey_it_could_be_worse.html?tk=nl_wbx_h_crawl1
 


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If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






-- 
If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





[scifinoir2] brand new product - Mommy's Time Out

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
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Re: [scifinoir2] brand new product - Mommy's Time Out

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[scifinoir2] Being Human New Season Starts on BBC America

2010-07-27 Thread Keith Johnson
I just noticed that the first episode of season two of Being Human is showing 
on BBC America at midnight EST. Not sure if the new season has debuted her 
already or not... 

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http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/being-human-season-2-episode-1.jsp 

http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/being-human-about-the-show.jsp 



Being Human is a witty and extraordinary look into the lives of three 
twenty-somethings and their secret double-lives - as a werewolf, a vampire, and 
a ghost. They struggle to live normal lives, despite their strange and dark 
secrets. 


After the death of vampire leader Herrick at the end of season one, the 
supernatural friends are hoping to get on with their lives, but an even greater 
danger is lurking in the very human world that they so badly want to be a part 
of. Unbeknownst to the trio, the mysterious Professor Jaggat and her 
cold-hearted colleague Kemp (Donald Sumpter) - religious zealots who have 
discovered their existence - are determined to carry out brutal experiments and 
ultimately destroy them. 


While Professor Jaggat and Kemp plot behind the scenes, werewolf George 
(Russell Tovey) is coming to terms with the fact that he has Herrick's blood on 
his hands, and a girlfriend who knows his horrific secret. Turning down the 
door of death has implications for ghost Annie (Lenora Crichlow) , but her 
confidence is at a peak and she's determined to stand up and be counted in the 
real world. And, with Herrick gone, Mitchell (Aidan Turner) must appease an out 
of control vampire world - can he find a way to lead by example? 




[scifinoir2] Movie: Batman: Under the Red Hood

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
Batman: Under the Red Hood

Batman is a complex man. Since he was a young boy, he has had to deal with
the horrors that crime brings face to face. In Batman: Under the Red Hood,
we follow Batman as he faces a new nemesis a super villain that is muscling
his way to the top spot in Gotham. The Red Hood.

The Red Hood is not an ordinary super villain. He has incredible fighting
skills and is not afraid to shed the blood of a criminal that stands in his
way.  Within a short time, the Red Hood has a large body count, and controls
a large portion of the criminal underworld. To make matters worse, the Red
Hood puts Black Mask on notice.  He is cold calculating and as scary as
Batman but with a psychotic edge.

Without giving away anything, we do get a glimpse at how badass Batman can
be if he were to allow himself to go further which in itself is nothing but
awesome. Like a true martial art master, we see a mature Batman that knows
the difference in hurting a criminal to get information is better than
hurting a criminal to put him in the hospital.

This is the best Batman movie to date. The action scenes in this movie are
fantastic and the best that I have seen in the Batman animated universe.
This movie is well worth the purchase.

Pros: Batman Fu, Red Hood Fu, Gadgets, Good back-story, Great Bad Guys.

Cons: I want to see more! Mature violence, may be inappropriate for younger
kids. This is probably as mature as you can get for a PG 13 movie.

5 out of 5!

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[scifinoir2] Teen Dutch Sailor Gets OK For Solo World Trip

2010-07-27 Thread Keith Johnson
Hmmm, I don't think I'd let my fourteen-year-old daughter--or son--undertake 
such a mission. The article says she'll be spending a lot of time at port, and 
she mentioned something about staying with convoys. Does that mean she'll be 
journeying in the presence of other ships for parts of the journey? I'd hope 
so, 'cause there are all sorts of dangers out in the wide world that a solo 
sailor could run into, from pirates to those who'd eagerly sell a young girl 
into slavery. I'm a huge fan of letting youngsters develop as slowly or quickly 
as they need, but just don't see myself going along with this one... 

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/27/laura-dekker-14-year-old_n_660593.html 

[AP News] 

MIDDELBURG, Netherlands — The new cushions, sunshade and bright red sail are in 
place. And now 14-year-old Laura Dekker has the go-ahead she needs. A Dutch 
court ruled Tuesday the girl who was born on a yacht in the South Pacific is 
ready to embark on her dream of becoming the youngest person to sail solo 
around the world – meaning she could set sail in two weeks in a ketch named 
Guppy. 

I was so happy I almost jumped into the water, the teen gushed, after hearing 
the court's decision. 

She then hopped onto her red-hulled, twin-mast yacht with a cartoon fish 
painted on the side and did a celebratory circle for the assembled media in the 
still waters of the harbor where she lives with her father on a boat. 

The past year of legal wrangling and criticism of Laura and her family have 
been far from such clear sailing – and she faces more stormy waters when she 
sets off on her odyssey in her 38-foot (11.5-meter) yacht. The dramatic rescue 
just last month of American teen Abby Sunderland in the Indian Ocean is a 
reminder of the perils she will face. 

I'm not really afraid, everything is really prepared on my boat, the young 
Dutch sailor said of the prospect of encountering everything from towering 
waves to Somali pirates. 

Answering questions in Dutch and English with a confidence belying her age, 
only rarely did Laura's youthful exuberance break through at a brief news 
conference – like when she looked back on the stress of the last year. 

Now it's all over and, yeah, it's really cool, she said. 

The risks the teen faces ignited a worldwide debate on how far parents should 
go in supporting or encouraging their children's improbable dreams. 

When Dutch child protection agencies got wind last year of the then 
13-year-old's plan they immediately went to court and had Laura placed under a 
guardianship order that meant she could not set sail. 

After reviewing her plans, judges ruled Laura was underprepared for such a 
voyage. They also raised concerns about her psychological and social 
development if she spent two years away from her peers and from school. 

One by one, Laura and her father worked to address a list of shortcomings – she 
organized remote schooling (study materials for the voyage were delivered last 
week) and got a bigger, sturdier yacht and fitted it with a battery of safety 
and navigation equipment. She took first aid courses, learning to suture her 
own wounds, put out onboard fires and cope with sleep deprivation. 

On Tuesday, all the work paid off when Middelburg Family Court said there was 
no reason to extend the guardianship by another year. 

Presiding Judge S. Kuypers said the responsibility for Laura now lies with her 
parents. 

It is up to them to decide whether Laura can set off on her sail trip, she 
said. 

The teen has also won over her mother, who initially opposed the voyage. Babs 
Mueller, who is separated from Laura's father, recently said she now backs her 
daughter. 

Dick Dekker brushed off criticism that he was pushing his daughter to undertake 
the voyage. 

Nonsense. It was Laura's plan from the very beginning, he said. I just 
support her in it. 

An experienced sailor who was circling the globe with Laura's mother when Laura 
was born on their yacht in New Zealand waters, Dekker said he didn't think the 
voyage was any more risky than life in the Netherlands. 

If she rides her bike to school that is probably more dangerous, he told The 
Associated Press. 

But 16-year-old Sunderland's dramatic rescue in June underscored the dangers of 
round-the-world sailing. A wave in the southern Indian Ocean snapped the mast 
off her yacht and put an abrupt end to her solo adventure. She was eventually 
rescued by a French fishing boat more than 2,000 miles (3,200 kilometers) west 
of Australia. 

Laura said she watched the dramatic rescue unfold, but it didn't really bother 
me. Her boat is bigger and more stable than Sunderland's, she said, and she 
was planning to take much longer for her voyage in an effort to catch the best 
weather. 

Sunderland's parents faced fierce criticism for letting their daughter attempt 
the trip and for the costly rescue – and Tuesday's decision ignited a fresh 
debate. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Being Human New Season Starts on BBC America

2010-07-27 Thread Mr. Worf
It started airing Saturday night.

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I just noticed that the first episode of season two of Being Human is
 showing on BBC America at midnight EST. Not sure if the new season has
 debuted her already or not...

 **
 http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/being-human-season-2-episode-1.jsp
 *http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/being-human-about-the-show.jsp*

 Being Human is a witty and extraordinary look into the lives of three
 twenty-somethings and their secret double-lives - as a werewolf, a vampire,
 and a ghost. They struggle to live normal lives, despite their strange and
 dark secrets.

 After the death of vampire leader Herrick at the end of season one, the
 supernatural friends are hoping to get on with their lives, but an even
 greater danger is lurking in the very human world that they so badly want to
 be a part of. Unbeknownst to the trio, the mysterious Professor Jaggat and
 her cold-hearted colleague Kemp (Donald 
 Sumpter)http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/kemp-donald-sumpter.jsp- 
 religious zealots who have discovered their existence - are determined to
 carry out brutal experiments and ultimately destroy them.

 While Professor Jaggat and Kemp plot behind the scenes, werewolf George
 (Russell 
 Tovey)http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/george-russell-tovey.jspis 
 coming to terms with the fact that he has Herrick's blood on his hands,
 and a girlfriend who knows his horrific secret. Turning down the door of
 death has implications for ghost Annie (Lenora 
 Crichlow)http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/annie-lenora-crichlow.jsp,
 but her confidence is at a peak and she's determined to stand up and be
 counted in the real world. And, with Herrick gone, Mitchell (Aidan 
 Turner)http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/mitchell-aidan-turner.jspmust 
 appease an out of control vampire world - can he find a way to lead by
 example?





 




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Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/