Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
ha! - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:43:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Maybe that's what we're looking at now. He's had the android version of himself for some time now, in case anyone tries to kidnap or kill the real deal. He sent it out on his behalf that night, and it malfunctioned horribly... there's a story in that. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:24:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment True, now, back to SciFi! Maybe Kanye will make a robot of himself that he sends on stage to speak for him. Kind of a rapping B4 (the ridiculous Data prototype from "Nemesis" that was rather simple compared to his brothers) - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:40:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > For my part--and for the part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's got no sense. > Or no home training - but that would be slight on his dear departed mother. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
Maybe that's what we're looking at now. He's had the android version of himself for some time now, in case anyone tries to kidnap or kill the real deal. He sent it out on his behalf that night, and it malfunctioned horribly... there's a story in that. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:24:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment True, now, back to SciFi! Maybe Kanye will make a robot of himself that he sends on stage to speak for him. Kind of a rapping B4 (the ridiculous Data prototype from "Nemesis" that was rather simple compared to his brothers) - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:40:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > For my part--and for the part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's got no sense. > Or no home training - but that would be slight on his dear departed mother. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
True, now, back to SciFi! Maybe Kanye will make a robot of himself that he sends on stage to speak for him. Kind of a rapping B4 (the ridiculous Data prototype from "Nemesis" that was rather simple compared to his brothers) - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:40:10 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > For my part--and for the part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's got no sense. > Or no home training - but that would be slight on his dear departed mother.
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
Future generations who discover this have to have the names right for the Memorial to Intellect. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:04:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment that's not a problem! :) - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:53:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment And apologies, Keith, for misspelling your name. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:45:27 -0400 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Thank you, Keityh. yesterday, I had the thought that, if the race tables had been switched, and it had been some big country star stealing the spotlight from Beyonce, there'd be brothers out there in full riot mode. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:12:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we have. And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i was taken aback. I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just not my motivation. Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense". And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness. Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's trying to be. - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come. As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being chaste when that is the only choice you have?" ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us to > act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful to > avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero giving > it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. > > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, what > gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that the > right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for me. > Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he was ou
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
It would have still raised eyebrows, and it would have still drawn my
rancor--more of it, in fact. I'm not blind to the fact that this is still a
racist country, and I'm not one to jump on any type of figurative lynching of a
Brother. But I will call out idiocy like this when I see it, regardless of the
man's color. That there is an undeniable racial aspect to the whole affair
doesn't influence my opinion at all--and that's the best I can give in this
country.
That some whites are angered because of their skin color is their issue, and
where I feel they're going to far, I'll call 'em out. For my part--and for the
part of many blacks I know--this is simply about a black man acting like he's
got no sense.
- Original Message -
From: "ravenadal"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:02:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
But let's not get it twisted. If it had been Keke Palmer instead of Taylor
Swift it would not have become a national cause celebre. Beyonce's gracious
ceding of the spotlight to Palmer would have been lauded, everybody would have
held hands and sung kumbaya and most of the ensuing discussion would have been
about the Madonna ("I, too, was a black child...") and the moving Michael
Jackson tribute.
There is an ongoing racial animus at work here and you may ignore it at your
own peril. I am currently struck by the murder of the young Asian woman at
Yale. Killed. Stuffed into a wall. Days before her wedding day. Can you imagine
the field day the press would be having with this story if the victim had been
white and blond.
~(no)rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote:
>
> That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we
> have.
>
> And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some
> innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a
> fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah
> Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i
> was taken aback.
>
> I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the
> Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is
> America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just
> not my motivation.
>
> Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a
> guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense".
>
> And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought
> about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness.
> Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's
> trying to be.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ravenadal"
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man
> would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white
> flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and
> live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come.
>
> As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being
> chaste when that is the only choice you have?"
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have
> > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde
> > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is
> > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on
> > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us
> > to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male
> > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful
> > to avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero
> > giving it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about.
> >
> > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy,
> > what gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that
> > the right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech
> > for me. Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought
> > he was out of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak.
> > Had he said it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or
> > twittered it, fine. His biz.
> >
> > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person,
> > ruined her moment, and then procee
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
that's not a problem! :) - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:53:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment And apologies, Keith, for misspelling your name. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:45:27 -0400 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Thank you, Keityh. yesterday, I had the thought that, if the race tables had been switched, and it had been some big country star stealing the spotlight from Beyonce, there'd be brothers out there in full riot mode. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:12:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we have. And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i was taken aback. I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just not my motivation. Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense". And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness. Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's trying to be. - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come. As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being chaste when that is the only choice you have?" ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us to > act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful to > avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero giving > it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. > > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, what > gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that the > right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for me. > Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he was out > of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. Had he said > it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or twittered it, fine. > His biz. > > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, ruined > her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve it. That > is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your life--personal, > church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let it go as "their > right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you made a presentation > at work, got an ho
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
Pardons for posting while worried about other things in my life, hence my lack
of clarity. The sentiment I tried to express here was better spoken by Mr Worf.
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:08:21 -0400
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's
Moment
You mean they *aren't* having a field day with it now?
Again, here, I fell you. Here in Atlanta, a young Black woman, 19 and a mother
of four who'd gotten herself together after years of drug and alcohol abuse,
never came home from her second job (where she was going to change clothes to
go to technical school).
That was 21 years ago. If you can name her, I'll mail you $20.
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:02:21 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
But let's not get it twisted. If it had been Keke Palmer
instead of Taylor Swift it would not have become a national cause celebre.
Beyonce's gracious ceding of the spotlight to Palmer would have been lauded,
everybody would have held hands and sung kumbaya and most of the ensuing
discussion would have been about the Madonna ("I, too, was a black child...")
and the moving Michael Jackson tribute.
There is an ongoing racial animus at work here and you may ignore it at your
own peril. I am currently struck by the murder of the young Asian woman at
Yale. Killed. Stuffed into a wall. Days before her wedding day. Can you
imagine the field day the press would be having with this story if the victim
had been white and blond.
~(no)rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
> That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we
> have.
>
> And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some
> innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a
> fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah
> Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i
> was taken aback.
>
> I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the
> Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is
> America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just
> not my motivation.
>
> Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a
> guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense".
>
> And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought
> about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness.
> Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's
> trying to be.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ravenadal"
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man
> would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white
> flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and
> live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come.
>
> As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being
> chaste when that is the only choice you have?"
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have
> > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde
> > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is
> > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on
> > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us
> > to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male
> > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
(standing ovation)
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:45:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's
Moment
Exactly! The same thing with missing kids. Every little white
kid that goes missing is plastered on your tv until you know their names. How
many black or hispanic kids can you name? They go missing too but you rarely
see or hear about them on tv.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:02 AM, ravenadal wrote:
But let's not get it twisted. If it had been Keke Palmer instead of Taylor
Swift it would not have become a national cause celebre. Beyonce's gracious
ceding of the spotlight to Palmer would have been lauded, everybody would have
held hands and sung kumbaya and most of the ensuing discussion would have been
about the Madonna ("I, too, was a black child...") and the moving Michael
Jackson tribute.
There is an ongoing racial animus at work here and you may ignore it at your
own peril. I am currently struck by the murder of the young Asian woman at
Yale. Killed. Stuffed into a wall. Days before her wedding day. Can you
imagine the field day the press would be having with this story if the victim
had been white and blond.
~(no)rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
> That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we
> have.
>
> And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some
> innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a
> fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah
> Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i
> was taken aback.
>
> I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the
> Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is
> America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just
> not my motivation.
>
> Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a
> guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense".
>
> And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought
> about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness.
> Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's
> trying to be.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ravenadal"
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man
> would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white
> flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and
> live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come.
>
> As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being
> chaste when that is the only choice you have?"
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have
> > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde
> > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is
> > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on
> > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us
> > to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male
> > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful
> > to avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero
> > giving it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about.
> >
> > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy,
> > what gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that
> > the right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech
> > for me. Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought
> > he was out of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak.
> > Had h
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
Exactly! The same thing with missing kids. Every little white kid that goes
missing is plastered on your tv until you know their names. How many black
or hispanic kids can you name? They go missing too but you rarely see or
hear about them on tv.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:02 AM, ravenadal wrote:
> But let's not get it twisted. If it had been Keke Palmer instead of Taylor
> Swift it would not have become a national cause celebre. Beyonce's gracious
> ceding of the spotlight to Palmer would have been lauded, everybody would
> have held hands and sung kumbaya and most of the ensuing discussion would
> have been about the Madonna ("I, too, was a black child...") and the moving
> Michael Jackson tribute.
>
> There is an ongoing racial animus at work here and you may ignore it at
> your own peril. I am currently struck by the murder of the young Asian
> woman at Yale. Killed. Stuffed into a wall. Days before her wedding day.
> Can you imagine the field day the press would be having with this story if
> the victim had been white and blond.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson
> wrote:
> >
> > That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom
> we have.
> >
> > And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some
> innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a
> fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah
> Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back,
> i was taken aback.
> >
> > I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking
> the Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know
> this is America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace.
> It's just not my motivation.
> >
> > Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from
> a guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense".
> >
> > And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought
> about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness.
> Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's
> trying to be.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "ravenadal"
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's
> Moment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black
> man would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious
> white flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national
> television and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we
> have come.
> >
> > As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in
> being chaste when that is the only choice you have?"
> >
> > ~(no)rave!
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I
> have sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young
> blonde white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his
> behavior is just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able
> to count on was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies
> taught us to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of
> white male singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to
> be careful to avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some
> black hero giving it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about.
> > >
> > > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy,
> what gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that
> the right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for
> me. Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he
> was out of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. Had
> he said it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or twittered
> it, fine. His biz.
> > >
> > > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person,
> ruined her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve
> it. That is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your
> life--personal, church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let
> it go as "their right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you
> made a presentation at work, got an honor, received praise from someone,
> that if someone jumped u and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The way
> I was raised, you want to say something you wait your turn. You act with
> decorum and common sense. And the way I grew up, when you physically Bogart
> your way into someone's space and face, it's a belligerent act that could
> start something. It's
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
You mean they *aren't* having a field day with it now?
Again, here, I fell you. Here in Atlanta, a young Black woman, 19 and a mother
of four who'd gotten herself together after years of drug and alcohol abuse,
never came home from her second job (where she was going to change clothes to
go to technical school).
That was 21 years ago. If you can name her, I'll mail you $20.
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:02:21 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
But let's not get it twisted. If it had been Keke Palmer
instead of Taylor Swift it would not have become a national cause celebre.
Beyonce's gracious ceding of the spotlight to Palmer would have been lauded,
everybody would have held hands and sung kumbaya and most of the ensuing
discussion would have been about the Madonna ("I, too, was a black child...")
and the moving Michael Jackson tribute.
There is an ongoing racial animus at work here and you may ignore it at your
own peril. I am currently struck by the murder of the young Asian woman at
Yale. Killed. Stuffed into a wall. Days before her wedding day. Can you
imagine the field day the press would be having with this story if the victim
had been white and blond.
~(no)rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
> That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we
> have.
>
> And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some
> innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a
> fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah
> Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i
> was taken aback.
>
> I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the
> Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is
> America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just
> not my motivation.
>
> Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a
> guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense".
>
> And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought
> about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness.
> Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's
> trying to be.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ravenadal"
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man
> would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white
> flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and
> live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come.
>
> As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being
> chaste when that is the only choice you have?"
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote:
> >
> > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have
> > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde
> > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is
> > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on
> > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us
> > to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male
> > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful
> > to avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero
> > giving it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about.
> >
> > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy,
> > what gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that
> > the right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech
> > for me. Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought
> > he was out of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak.
> > Had he said it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or
> > twittered it, fine. His biz.
> >
> > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person,
> > ruined her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve
> > it. That is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your
> > life--personal, church, or business--if s
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
And apologies, Keith, for misspelling your name. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:45:27 -0400 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Thank you, Keityh. yesterday, I had the thought that, if the race tables had been switched, and it had been some big country star stealing the spotlight from Beyonce, there'd be brothers out there in full riot mode. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:12:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we have. And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i was taken aback. I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just not my motivation. Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense". And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness. Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's trying to be. - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come. As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being chaste when that is the only choice you have?" ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us to > act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful to > avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero giving > it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. > > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, what > gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that the > right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for me. > Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he was out > of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. Had he said > it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or twittered it, fine. > His biz. > > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, ruined > her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve it. That > is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your life--personal, > church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let it go as "their > right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you made a presentation > at work, got an honor, received praise from someone, that if someone jumped u > and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The way I was raised, you want to > say something you wait your turn. Y
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
A potentially good ratings spot... "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:04:28 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Thanks-- i think. You're not trying to sandwich me between "House of Payne" and "Meet the Browns", are you?! - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:04:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Keith, You should be on TBS because this was "very funny!" ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > Holy...! > > Lessee... > > Close. > "e" > right-click. > Left click "Properties" > Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History. > "Delete". > Cookies. Check. > Temporary Internet Files. Check. > History. Che--ah hell, check ALL boxes! > "Delete". > Delete again. > "Delete browsing history on exit". Check > Close. > > "Start". > Right-click > Left-click "Explore". > C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data > ...\Macromedia - Delete all files > ...\Media Player. Delete all files. > ...\Cookies. Yep, empty. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings > ...\History. Yep, empty > ...\Temp. Delete all. > ...\Temporary Internet Files. Delete all. > > Recycle Bin. > Right-click. > left-click "Empty Recycle Bin". > > Open. > > www.carebears.com > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Martin Baxter" > To: "SciFiNoir2" > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's > Moment > > > > > > > (after googling Amber) > > Good move, rave. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: ravena...@... > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > Who's Amber? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Street" > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's > > Moment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm > > glad Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of > > time as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like > > this? > > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she > > should have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, > > blonde and white or not--this was out of > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherwood@ > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's > > Moment > > > > > > > > > > > &
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
Thank you, Keityh. yesterday, I had the thought that, if the race tables had been switched, and it had been some big country star stealing the spotlight from Beyonce, there'd be brothers out there in full riot mode. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:12:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we have. And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i was taken aback. I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just not my motivation. Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense". And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness. Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's trying to be. - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come. As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being chaste when that is the only choice you have?" ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us to > act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful to > avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero giving > it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. > > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, what > gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that the > right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for me. > Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he was out > of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. Had he said > it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or twittered it, fine. > His biz. > > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, ruined > her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve it. That > is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your life--personal, > church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let it go as "their > right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you made a presentation > at work, got an honor, received praise from someone, that if someone jumped u > and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The way I was raised, you want to > say something you wait your turn. You act with decorum and common sense. And > the way I grew up, when you physically Bogart your way into someone's space > and face, it's a belligerent act that could start something. It's rude and > stupid, no matter the gender, age, race, class, coolness, genius, standing, > or rep of any of the principals involved. > > As for comparing this to other governments, what of it? Boorish behavior is > boorish behavior. And even then,
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we have. And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a fool. Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah Carey, I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i was taken aback. I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the Big Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just not my motivation. Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a guy raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense". And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought about his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness. Brother isn't bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's trying to be. - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come. As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being chaste when that is the only choice you have?" ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us to > act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful to > avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero giving > it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. > > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, what > gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that the > right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for me. > Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he was out > of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. Had he said > it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or twittered it, fine. > His biz. > > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, ruined > her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve it. That > is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your life--personal, > church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let it go as "their > right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you made a presentation > at work, got an honor, received praise from someone, that if someone jumped u > and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The way I was raised, you want to > say something you wait your turn. You act with decorum and common sense. And > the way I grew up, when you physically Bogart your way into someone's space > and face, it's a belligerent act that could start something. It's rude and > stupid, no matter the gender, age, race, class, coolness, genius, standing, > or rep of any of the principals involved. > > As for comparing this to other governments, what of it? Boorish behavior is > boorish behavior. And even then, you're getting it wrong. The Brits do a > strong session where one person talks, another jumps up and responds, and on > and on. The crowd yells and harumphs, and all, but the Parliamentarians don't > jump up and wrestle the mic from each other. If they continue always speaking > over each other, they're called to order. > > I strongly think we need to step back from this rancor based on politics, > ideology, class, and (what I'm hearing here) racial conflict, and remember > what it is to "act like you got some sense". > > Kanye is a black man raised by a black mom who I know taught him better. Were > she still alive, I'm pretty sure she'd have been just as upset with his > behavior as I am, no matter what color Swift had been. > > - Original Message - > From: "Mr. Worf" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:57:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Mom
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Thanks-- i think. You're not trying to sandwich me between "House of Payne" and "Meet the Browns", are you?! - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:04:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Keith, You should be on TBS because this was "very funny!" ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > Holy...! > > Lessee... > > Close. > "e" > right-click. > Left click "Properties" > Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History. > "Delete". > Cookies. Check. > Temporary Internet Files. Check. > History. Che--ah hell, check ALL boxes! > "Delete". > Delete again. > "Delete browsing history on exit". Check > Close. > > "Start". > Right-click > Left-click "Explore". > C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data > ...\Macromedia - Delete all files > ...\Media Player. Delete all files. > ...\Cookies. Yep, empty. > > C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings > ...\History. Yep, empty > ...\Temp. Delete all. > ...\Temporary Internet Files. Delete all. > > Recycle Bin. > Right-click. > left-click "Empty Recycle Bin". > > Open. > > www.carebears.com > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Martin Baxter" > To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's > Moment > > > > > > > (after googling Amber) > > Good move, rave. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: ravena...@... > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > Who's Amber? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Street" > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's > > Moment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm > > glad Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of > > time as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like > > this? > > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she > > should have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, > > blonde and white or not--this was out of > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherwood@ > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's > > Moment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see > > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the > > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo > > and Juliet song." > > > > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about > > healthcare, to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than > > healthcare. But noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce > > didn't
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"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:57:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Thanks, hopefully the new URL will deflect any suspicions of my activities.(Although one might wonder about the sanity of a 40+ man reading about the Care Bears!) - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:27:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment LMNAATWO! "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:23:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Holy...! Lessee... Close. "e" right-click. Left click "Properties" Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History. "Delete". Cookies. Check. Temporary Internet Files. Check. History. Che--ah hell, check ALL boxes! "Delete". Delete again. "Delete browsing history on exit". Check Close. "Start". Right-click Left-click "Explore". C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data ...\Macromedia - Delete all files ...\Media Player. Delete all files. ...\Cookies. Yep, empty. C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings ...\History. Yep, empty ...\Temp. Delete all. ...\Temporary Internet Files. Delete all. Recycle Bin. Right-click. left-click "Empty Recycle Bin". Open. www.carebears.com - Original Message ----- From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment (after googling Amber) Good move, rave. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > Who's Amber? > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Street" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm glad > Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of time > as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like this? > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she should > have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, blonde and > white or not--this was out of > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherw...@... > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo > and Juliet song." > > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about healthcare, > to say that it has more to do with race
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rave, I feel that with you at face value, and that contrast, in and of itself, IMO, is another roadsign on the highway to Armageddon. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:02:41 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Okay. I lied. THIS is my last take on the Kanye West mess: Kanye West spoiling the "moment" for a white girl is more controversial than Jack Black exhorting everyone in the audience to "hold hands and pray to Satan." Only in America. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" wrote: > > My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man > would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white > flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television > and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come. > > As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being > chaste when that is the only choice you have?" > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have > > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde > > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is > > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on > > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us > > to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male > > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful > > to avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero > > giving it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. > > > > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, > > what gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that > > the right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech > > for me. Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought > > he was out of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. > > Had he said it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or > > twittered it, fine. His biz. > > > > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, > > ruined her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve > > it. That is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your > > life--personal, church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let > > it go as "their right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you > > made a presentation at work, got an honor, received praise from someone, > > that if someone jumped u and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The > > way I was raised, you want to say something you wait your turn. You act > > with decorum and common sense. And the way I grew up, when you physically > > Bogart your way into someone's space and face, it's a belligerent act that > > could start something. It's rude and stupid, no matter the gender, age, > > race, class, coolness, genius, standing, or rep of any of the principals > > involved. > > > > As for comparing this to other governments, what of it? Boorish behavior is > > boorish behavior. And even then, you're getting it wrong. The Brits do a > > strong session where one person talks, another jumps up and responds, and > > on and on. The crowd yells and harumphs, and all, but the Parliamentarians > > don't jump up and wrestle the mic from each other. If they continue always > > speaking over each other, they're called to order. > > > > I strongly think we need to step back from this rancor based on politics, > > ideology, class, and (what I'm hearing here) racial conflict, and remember > > what it is to "act like you got some sense". > > > > Kanye is a black man raised by a black mom who I know taught him better. > > Were she still alive, I'm pretty sure she'd have been just as upset with > > his behavior as I am, no matter what color Swift had been. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mr. Worf" > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:57:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's > > Moment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that you are trying to do a Bill Cosby here. Frankly, he can do > > whatever the hell he wants short of shooting someone on stage. All press is > > good press. The subtext that I am reading here is "poor little white girl > > abused by
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Thanks, hopefully the new URL will deflect any suspicions of my activities.(Although one might wonder about the sanity of a 40+ man reading about the Care Bears!) - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:27:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment LMNAATWO! "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:23:29 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Holy...! Lessee... Close. "e" right-click. Left click "Properties" Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History. "Delete". Cookies. Check. Temporary Internet Files. Check. History. Che--ah hell, check ALL boxes! "Delete". Delete again. "Delete browsing history on exit". Check Close. "Start". Right-click Left-click "Explore". C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data ...\Macromedia - Delete all files ...\Media Player. Delete all files. ...\Cookies. Yep, empty. C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings ...\History. Yep, empty ...\Temp. Delete all. ...\Temporary Internet Files. Delete all. Recycle Bin. Right-click. left-click "Empty Recycle Bin". Open. www.carebears.com - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment (after googling Amber) Good move, rave. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > Who's Amber? > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Street" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm glad > Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of time > as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like this? > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she should > have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, blonde and > white or not--this was out of > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherw...@... > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo > and Juliet song." > > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about healthcare, > to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than healthcare. But > noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce didn't need no help. > > Oh my goodness... Is it bad that I've watched it over and over again trying > to figure out just what substance that fellows on? > > Aubrey Leatherwood > www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook * MySpace > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > The People You Know, The Sex They Have
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LMNAATWO! "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:23:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment Holy...! Lessee... Close. "e" right-click. Left click "Properties" Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History. "Delete". Cookies. Check. Temporary Internet Files. Check. History. Che--ah hell, check ALL boxes! "Delete". Delete again. "Delete browsing history on exit". Check Close. "Start". Right-click Left-click "Explore". C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data ...\Macromedia - Delete all files ...\Media Player. Delete all files. ...\Cookies. Yep, empty. C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings ...\History. Yep, empty ...\Temp. Delete all. ...\Temporary Internet Files. Delete all. Recycle Bin. Right-click. left-click "Empty Recycle Bin". Open. www.carebears.com - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment (after googling Amber) Good move, rave. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > Who's Amber? > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Street" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm glad > Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of time > as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like this? > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she should > have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, blonde and > white or not--this was out of > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherw...@... > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo > and Juliet song." > > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about healthcare, > to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than healthcare. But > noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce didn't need no help. > > Oh my goodness... Is it bad that I've watched it over and over again trying > to figure out just what substance that fellows on? > > Aubrey Leatherwood > www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook * MySpace > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > The People You Know, The Sex They Have > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: keithbjohn...@... > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:01:50 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again R
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Holy...! Lessee... Close. "e" right-click. Left click "Properties" Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History. "Delete". Cookies. Check. Temporary Internet Files. Check. History. Che--ah hell, check ALL boxes! "Delete". Delete again. "Delete browsing history on exit". Check Close. "Start". Right-click Left-click "Explore". C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data ...\Macromedia - Delete all files ...\Media Player. Delete all files. ...\Cookies. Yep, empty. C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings ...\History. Yep, empty ...\Temp. Delete all. ...\Temporary Internet Files. Delete all. Recycle Bin. Right-click. left-click "Empty Recycle Bin". Open. www.carebears.com - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: "SciFiNoir2" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment (after googling Amber) Good move, rave. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > Who's Amber? > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Street" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm glad > Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of time > as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like this? > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she should > have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, blonde and > white or not--this was out of > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherw...@... > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo > and Juliet song." > > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about healthcare, > to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than healthcare. But > noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce didn't need no help. > > Oh my goodness... Is it bad that I've watched it over and over again trying > to figure out just what substance that fellows on? > > Aubrey Leatherwood > www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook * MySpace > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > The People You Know, The Sex They Have > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: keithbjohn...@... > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:01:50 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty > Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the > heck is wrong with the brother?? > > ** > > > Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time > > Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training > > You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child? > Apparently, Kanye 's villa
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I agree. I personally have been using that policy for years.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:08 PM, ravenadal wrote:
> The Republicans are a minority party, yet they have won the White house 20
> out of the last 28 years. They have a credo: "Speak ill of no Republican."
>
> Imagine what black folks could do with a similar ("Speak ill of no negro"
> credo?
>
> Cause, either you belong to the club. Or you don't.
>
> Do you honestly believe most Republicans don't know Joe Wilson screwed up?
> Yet, they not only continue to defend him; they embrace him. And, bankrupt
> as their policies are - they will win again.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, George Arterberry
> wrote:
> >
> > Why are Negroes defending Kanye West? What he did was crass, bush league
> and straight ignant (I know) on so many levels. Sure it could have been
> staged but I've yet to see him pull that stunt on some sure nuff gangstas
> posing as rappers.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Mr. Worf wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Mr. Worf
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's
> Moment
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 1:49 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Taylor Swift didn't deserve the award.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Keith Johnson comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Right about what?
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mr. Worf"
> > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> >
> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:33:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's
> Moment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > He was right. And George Bush still hates black people.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Keith Johnson comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty
> Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the
> heck is wrong with the brother??
> >
> > * * * * **
> >
> >
> >
> > Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time
> > Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training
> > You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child?
> > Apparently, Kanye's village has failed him. He obviously doesn't have a
> real friend in the world. There does not appear to be anyone who can get
> through to him, to make him understand that he needs to curb his obnoxious
> behavior.
> > I thought it was a joke when Kanye showed up on the MTV Video Music
> Awards stage next to Taylor Swift, right in the middle of her acceptance
> speech for Best Female Video for "You Belong With Me." It was the first Moon
> Man for the 19-year-old country starlet, who has become an equally huge star
> in the pop world.
> > "I always dreamed about what it would be like to win one of these one
> day," Taylor said with surprise. "I never thought it would happen."
> > As Taylor continued, Kanye interrupted, saying he thought Beyonce's
> "Single Ladies" video was wrongly overlooked. "Hey Taylor, I'm really happy
> for you, but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time."
> > Taylor looked humiliated. I felt humiliated for her. The audience booed
> him, and gave her a standing ovation.
> > I didn't expect Taylor to win that award, and I'm not upset about Kanye's
> opinion. However, bum-rushing the stage wasn't the appropriate time and
> place to express his disagreement.
> > Not only was Kanye's approach disrespectful, it was especially a
> disrespectful act directed towards a woman--a teenage girl, actually. Taylor
> won't turn 20 until December. I can only imagine how her father feels. I'm
> sure he would like to have a talk to Kanye. I'm not related to her, and I'd
> like to have a talk with him.
> > If Kanye wants people to win the awards he thinks they deserve, he should
> create his own event. He should name it after his website,
> KanyeUniversecity. com, and webcast it.
> > Kanye is a guest at the MTV Video Music Awards. He does not determine the
> winners. The winners are determined by popular vote. Furthermore, aside from
> the fact that Taylor Swift is a top-selling artist, who has revolutionized
> teen country pop, she did not have any competition in this category as her
> competitors Beyonce, Lady GaGa, Pink, and Kelly Clarkson split the pop vote.
> Taylor had to get 100 percent of the country vote, plus some of the pop vote
> as well.
> > It's simple math that even a "College Dropout" should be able to figure
> out.
> > Ironically, a MTV writer joked that Kanye's rant was an indication that
> he might be inebriated. "Kanye West ruins Taylor Swift's big moment," the
> MTV.com editor wrote. "Further proof that he's on the Hennessy. In my humble
> opinion, that is."
> > MTV also reported that Perez Hilton and Hayley Williams started a
> #TeamTaylor trend on Twitter.
> > Pink tweeted about her annoyance with Kanye. "Kanye
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
rave, that will happen over the dead and flaming bodies of myself and at least
ten people I can lay hands on within six hours' drive of my house.
"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:08:47 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
The Republicans are a minority party, yet they have won the
White house 20 out of the last 28 years. They have a credo: "Speak ill of no
Republican."
Imagine what black folks could do with a similar ("Speak ill of no negro" credo?
Cause, either you belong to the club. Or you don't.
Do you honestly believe most Republicans don't know Joe Wilson screwed up?
Yet, they not only continue to defend him; they embrace him. And, bankrupt as
their policies are - they will win again.
~(no)rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, George Arterberry
wrote:
>
> Why are Negroes defending Kanye West? What he did was crass, bush league and
> straight ignant (I know) on so many levels. Sure it could have been staged
> but I've yet to see him pull that stunt on some sure nuff gangstas posing as
> rappers.
>
> --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Mr. Worf wrote:
>
>
> From: Mr. Worf
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 1:49 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Taylor Swift didn't deserve the award.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Keith Johnson
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Right about what?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf"
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:33:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> He was right. And George Bush still hates black people.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Keith Johnson
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty
> Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the
> heck is wrong with the brother??
>
> * * * * **
>
>
>
> Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time
> Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training
> You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child?
> Apparently, Kanye's village has failed him. He obviously doesn't have a real
> friend in the world. There does not appear to be anyone who can get through
> to him, to make him understand that he needs to curb his obnoxious behavior.
> I thought it was a joke when Kanye showed up on the MTV Video Music Awards
> stage next to Taylor Swift, right in the middle of her acceptance speech for
> Best Female Video for "You Belong With Me." It was the first Moon Man for the
> 19-year-old country starlet, who has become an equally huge star in the pop
> world.
> "I always dreamed about what it would be like to win one of these one day,"
> Taylor said with surprise. "I never thought it would happen."
> As Taylor continued, Kanye interrupted, saying he thought Beyonce's "Single
> Ladies" video was wrongly overlooked. "Hey Taylor, I'm really happy for you,
> but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time."
> Taylor looked humiliated. I felt humiliated for her. The audience booed him,
> and gave her a standing ovation.
> I didn't expect Taylor to win that award, and I'm not upset about Kanye's
> opinion. However, bum-rushing the stage wasn't the appropriate time and place
> to express his disagreement.
> Not only was Kanye's approach disrespectful, it was especially a
> disrespectful act directed towards a woman--a teenage girl, actually. Taylor
> won't turn 20 until December. I can only imagine how her father feels. I'm
> sure he would like to have a talk to Kanye. I'm not related to her, and I'd
> like to have a talk with him.
> If Kanye wants people to win the awards he thinks they deserve, he should
> create his own event. He should name it after his website, KanyeUniversecity.
> com, and webcast it.
> Kanye is a guest at the MTV Video Music Awards. He does not determine the
> winners. The winners are determined by popular vote. Furthermore, aside from
> the fact that Taylor Swift is a top-selling artist, who has revolutionized
> teen country pop, she did not have any competition in this category as her
> competitors Beyonce, Lady GaGa, Pink, and Kelly Clarkson split the pop vote.
> Taylor had to get 100 percent of the country vote, plus some of the pop vote
> as well.
> It's simple math that even a "College Dropout" should be able to figure out.
> Ironically, a MTV w
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment
(after googling Amber) Good move, rave. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > Who's Amber? > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Street" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm glad > Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of time > as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like this? > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she should > have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, blonde and > white or not--this was out of > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherw...@... > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo > and Juliet song." > > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about healthcare, > to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than healthcare. But > noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce didn't need no help. > > Oh my goodness... Is it bad that I've watched it over and over again trying > to figure out just what substance that fellows on? > > Aubrey Leatherwood > www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook * MySpace > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > The People You Know, The Sex They Have > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: keithbjohn...@... > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:01:50 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty > Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the > heck is wrong with the brother?? > > ** > > > Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time > > Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training > > You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child? > Apparently, Kanye 's village has failed him. He obviously doesn't have a real > friend in the world. There does not appear to be anyone who can get through > to him, to make him understand that he needs to curb his obnoxious behavior. > I thought it was a joke when Kanye showed up on the MTV Video Music Awards > stage next to Taylor Swift , right in the middle of her acceptance speech for > Best Female Video for " You Belong With Me ." It was the first Moon Man for > the 19-year-old country starlet, who has become an equally huge star in the > pop world. > "I always dreamed about what it would be like to win one of these one day," > Taylor said with surprise. "I never thought it would happen." > As Taylor continued, Kanye interrupted, saying he thought Beyonce's "Single > Ladies" video was wrongly overlooked. "Hey Taylor, I'm really happy for you, > but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time." > Taylor looked humiliated. I felt humiliated for her. The audience booed him, > and gave her a standing ovation. > I didn't expect Taylor to win that award, and I'm not upset about Kanye's > opinion. However, bum-rushing the stage wasn't the appropriate time and place > to express his disagreement. > Not only was Kanye's approach disrespectful, it was especially a > disrespectful act directed towards a woman--a teenage girl, actually. Taylor > won't turn 20 until December. I can only imagine how her father fe
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LOL! - Original Message - From: "ravenadal" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:16:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > Who's Amber? > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Street" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm glad > Beyonce gave her the mic to speak > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of time > as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like this? > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she should > have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, blonde and > white or not--this was out of > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherw...@... > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo > and Juliet song." > > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about healthcare, > to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than healthcare. But > noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce didn't need no help. > > Oh my goodness... Is it bad that I've watched it over and over again trying > to figure out just what substance that fellows on? > > Aubrey Leatherwood > www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook * MySpace > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > The People You Know, The Sex They Have > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: keithbjohn...@... > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:01:50 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment > > > > > > To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty > Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the > heck is wrong with the brother?? > > ** > > > Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time > > Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training > > You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child? > Apparently, Kanye 's village has failed him. He obviously doesn't have a real > friend in the world. There does not appear to be anyone who can get through > to him, to make him understand that he needs to curb his obnoxious behavior. > I thought it was a joke when Kanye showed up on the MTV Video Music Awards > stage next to Taylor Swift , right in the middle of her acceptance speech for > Best Female Video for " You Belong With Me ." It was the first Moon Man for > the 19-year-old country starlet, who has become an equally huge star in the > pop world. > "I always dreamed about what it would be like to win one of these one day," > Taylor said with surprise. "I never thought it would happen." > As Taylor continued, Kanye interrupted, saying he thought Beyonce's "Single > Ladies" video was wrongly overlooked. "Hey Taylor, I'm really happy for you, > but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time." > Taylor looked humiliated. I felt humiliated for her. The audience booed him, > and gave her a standing ovation. > I didn't expect Taylor to win that award, and I'm not upset about Kanye's > opinion. However, bum-rushing the stage wasn't the appropriate time and place > to express his disagreement. > Not only was Kanye's approach disrespectful, it was especially a > disrespectful act directed towards a woman--a teenage girl, actually. Taylor > won't turn 20 until December. I can only imagine how her father feels. I'm > sure he would like to have a talk to Kanye. I'm not related to her, and I'd > like to have a talk with him. > If Kanye wants people to win the awards he thinks they deserve, he should > create his own event. He should name it after his website, > KanyeUniversec
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Stick together like them, yes. Act like them at their worst, no. Love that quote from Obama, by the way: "we are the ones we are waiting for". I said much the same thing a few years ago to a guy who was upset because I said Jesse Jackson wasn't the next MLK. He demanded to know who was our leader if not Jesse, and I made a statement to the effect that we spend too much time looking for the One to guide us, that we need to take charge and forge ahead until the Universe creates/sends/reveals the next "leader". That turned into a nasty argument, as if I'd personally insulted Jesse. Gave up after that. - Original Message - From: "Daryle Lockhart" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:25:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment You sad it better, man. I don't know what better time than now. We are the ones we are waiting for. On Sep 14, 2009, at 11:33 AM, ravenadal wrote: I love Kanye. I even love crazy Kanye. My fondest wish is that one day black people will stick together like Republicans. http://iijaih.notlong.com ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty > Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the > heck is wrong with the brother?? > > ** > > > Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time > > Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training > > You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child? > > Apparently, Kanye 's village has failed him. He obviously doesn't have a real > friend in the world. There does not appear to be anyone who can get through > to him, to make him understand that he needs to curb his obnoxious behavior. > > I thought it was a joke when Kanye showed up on the MTV Video Music Awards > stage next to Taylor Swift , right in the middle of her acceptance speech for > Best Female Video for " You Belong With Me ." It was the first Moon Man for > the 19-year-old country starlet, who has become an equally huge star in the > pop world. > > "I always dreamed about what it would be like to win one of these one day," > Taylor said with surprise. "I never thought it would happen." > > As Taylor continued, Kanye interrupted, saying he thought Beyonce's "Single > Ladies" video was wrongly overlooked. "Hey Taylor, I'm really happy for you, > but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time." > > Taylor looked humiliated. I felt humiliated for her. The audience booed him, > and gave her a standing ovation. > > I didn't expect Taylor to win that award, and I'm not upset about Kanye's > opinion. However, bum-rushing the stage wasn't the appropriate time and place > to express his disagreement. > > Not only was Kanye's approach disrespectful, it was especially a > disrespectful act directed towards a woman--a teenage girl, actually. Taylor > won't turn 20 until December. I can only imagine how her father feels. I'm > sure he would like to have a talk to Kanye. I'm not related to her, and I'd > like to have a talk with him. > > If Kanye wants people to win the awards he thinks they deserve, he should > create his own event. He should name it after his website, > KanyeUniversecity.com , and webcast it. > > Kanye is a guest at the MTV Video Music Awards. He does not determine the > winners. The winners are determined by popular vote. Furthermore, aside from > the fact that Taylor Swift is a top-selling artist, who has revolutionized > teen country pop, she did not have any competition in this category as her > competitors Beyonce, Lady GaGa, Pink, and Kelly Clarkson split the pop vote. > Taylor had to get 100 percent of the country vote, plus some of the pop vote > as well. > > It's simple math that even a "College Dropout" should be able to figure out. > > Ironically, a MTV writer joked that Kanye's rant was an indication that he > might be inebriated. "Kanye West ruins Taylor Swift's big moment," the > MTV.com editor wrote. "Further proof that he's on the Hennessy. In my humble > opinion, that is." > > MTV also reported that Perez Hilton and Hayley Williams started a #TeamTaylor > trend on Twitter. > > Pink tweeted about her annoyance with Kanye. "Kanye West is the biggest piece > of sh-t on earth. Quote me," she wrote. "My heart goes out t
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You sad it better, man. I don't know what better time than now. We are the ones we are waiting for. On Sep 14, 2009, at 11:33 AM, ravenadal wrote: I love Kanye. I even love crazy Kanye. My fondest wish is that one day black people will stick together like Republicans. http://iijaih.notlong.com ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the heck is wrong with the brother?? > > ** > > > Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time > > Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training > > You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child? > > Apparently, Kanye 's village has failed him. He obviously doesn't have a real friend in the world. There does not appear to be anyone who can get through to him, to make him understand that he needs to curb his obnoxious behavior. > > I thought it was a joke when Kanye showed up on the MTV Video Music Awards stage next to Taylor Swift , right in the middle of her acceptance speech for Best Female Video for " You Belong With Me ." It was the first Moon Man for the 19-year-old country starlet, who has become an equally huge star in the pop world. > > "I always dreamed about what it would be like to win one of these one day," Taylor said with surprise. "I never thought it would happen." > > As Taylor continued, Kanye interrupted, saying he thought Beyonce's "Single Ladies" video was wrongly overlooked. "Hey Taylor, I'm really happy for you, but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time." > > Taylor looked humiliated. I felt humiliated for her. The audience booed him, and gave her a standing ovation. > > I didn't expect Taylor to win that award, and I'm not upset about Kanye's opinion. However, bum-rushing the stage wasn't the appropriate time and place to express his disagreement. > > Not only was Kanye's approach disrespectful, it was especially a disrespectful act directed towards a woman--a teenage girl, actually. Taylor won't turn 20 until December. I can only imagine how her father feels. I'm sure he would like to have a talk to Kanye. I'm not related to her, and I'd like to have a talk with him. > > If Kanye wants people to win the awards he thinks they deserve, he should create his own event. He should name it after his website, KanyeUniversecity.com , and webcast it. > > Kanye is a guest at the MTV Video Music Awards. He does not determine the winners. The winners are determined by popular vote. Furthermore, aside from the fact that Taylor Swift is a top-selling artist, who has revolutionized teen country pop, she did not have any competition in this category as her competitors Beyonce, Lady GaGa, Pink, and Kelly Clarkson split the pop vote. Taylor had to get 100 percent of the country vote, plus some of the pop vote as well. > > It's simple math that even a "College Dropout" should be able to figure out. > > Ironically, a MTV writer joked that Kanye's rant was an indication that he might be inebriated. "Kanye West ruins Taylor Swift's big moment," the MTV.com editor wrote. "Further proof that he's on the Hennessy. In my humble opinion, that is." > > MTV also reported that Perez Hilton and Hayley Williams started a #TeamTaylor trend on Twitter. > > Pink tweeted about her annoyance with Kanye. "Kanye West is the biggest piece of sh-t on earth. Quote me," she wrote. "My heart goes out to Taylor Swift. She is a sweet and talented girl, and deserved her moment. She should know we all love her." > > Kanye has previously made award show rants about Gretchen Wilson, Justice and Simian, as well as Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake, but this was the worst. > > I give credit to Taylor. She handled it gracefully. The audience countered him by giving her a standing ovation, and booed Kanye throughout the night whenever his name was mentioned. > > Taylor performed "You Belong With Me" live just minutes later. I watched, wondering if she would feel flustered, and if it would show in her performance. But it didn't. > > I think she channeled that negative energy into a positive. Good for her. > > Fortunately, Taylor got another chance to complete her acceptance speech. When Beyonce accepted the Best Video Award for "Single Ladies," she invited Taylor back on stage. > > "Wow, this is amazing," Beyonce said when receiving her award. "I remember being 17-years-old and up for my first MTV award with Destiny's Child. It was one of the most exciting moments in my life. So, I'd like for Taylor to come out and have her moment." > > Taylor then joined Beyonce on stage and recited her acceptance speech without making reference to Kanye. > > Still, MTV should have thrown Kanye out of the event. Had any other heckl
