RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-26 Thread Reece Jennings
I hear you.  But between Comcast and the little weeny at&t, I'll take
Comcast.  My dad had
at&t and dish.  I called at&t to cancel his PHONE service, and they
cancelled his dish, too.
Seems at&t requires a phone for billing.  It just got worse from there.  I
cancelled the whole
business and got a phone and cable from CC for my brother.  What a mess with
different 
companies!
 
That's why I'll whore for CC.   :o)  Or is that pimp for them?
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:34 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



Same here...that's why I hate it...


Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote:
Just curious...if one doesn't use Comcast in your areas, what are the other
options?
We don't have any except AT&T and Dish...

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com
<http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
<http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com>
mesavers.com
<http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/>
mesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-26 Thread Martin
I'm stuck with- uh, *have* Comcrap Digital. Other than that, it's other digital 
services, DishTV and DirectTV.

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Just 
curious...if one doesn't use Comcast in your areas, what are the other
 options?
 We don't have any except AT&T and Dish...
  
  Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
 <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
  
  
  
 
 _  
 
 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Astromancer
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:11 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
 
 Uh...Yeah, it does...
 
 Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
 wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
 Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!
 
 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
 <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com
 <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> 
 
 _ 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
 
 Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
 similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
 ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
 
 KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
 don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
 in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
 League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
 things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
 package
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 
 Astromancer wrote:
 > Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 >
 > KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
 posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
 asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
 Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
 >
 > I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
 ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
 >
 > Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 >
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
 gmail.com> 
 > Nuts.
 >
 > JJ Mohareb
 >
 > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 > L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
 > 
 >> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 >>
 >>
 >> By MICHAEL HINMAN
 >> Source: SyFy Portal
 >> Feb-21-2008
 >>
 >> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
 >>
 >> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 >> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 >> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 >> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
 >> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 >>
 >> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 >> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
 >> asked not t

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Same here...that's why I hate it...
  

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Just curious...if one doesn't use Comcast in your areas, what are the 
other
options?
We don't have any except AT&T and Dish...

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 




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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:11 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com
<http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> wors

Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
knew I would get a chuckle out of you

Reece Jennings wrote:
> Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
> situation,
>  
> LOLLOL!!!
>  
>  Maurice Jennings
> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
> KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
> Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
> <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
>  
>  
>  
>
>   _  
>
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Martin
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:50 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
>
>
>
> Hooray Deregulation! :P
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: Newer
> subscribers have received better deals than me. Back in philly, I 
> was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
> better packages. I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
> mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
> because of it?
>
> Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
> situation, I found out the following recently. In 1996 a Telecom Act 
> was passed that accomplished the following:
>
> ~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
> skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
> to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
> 50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
> broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
> of competition.
>
> ~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
> could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
> had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
> the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
> eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
> license renewals.
>
> ~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
> could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach. Together, just 
> five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
> Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
> prime-time viewing.
>
> ~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
> Born from this was Clear Channel.
>
> One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
> in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
> `decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.
>
> Astromancer wrote:
>   
>> Comcrap(HIS)
>>
>> Martin mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
> wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a
> package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven
> months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
>   
>> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
>> 
> don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
> in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
> League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
> things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
> package
>   
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
> <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
>   
>> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>>
>> Astromancer wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is
>>>   
> and, therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>   
>>> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
>>>   
> posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
> asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
> Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>   
>>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
>>>   
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
> the whol

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Reece Jennings
LOLLOL!!!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:47 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



(jerking upright before reaching the bar...)

Martin mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: As long as no one picks up the soap, we're good... 8-O

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:
Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com
<http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well

RE: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Reece Jennings
Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation,
 
LOLLOL!!!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:50 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



Hooray Deregulation! :P

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: Newer
subscribers have received better deals than me. Back in philly, I 
was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
better packages. I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
because of it?

Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation, I found out the following recently. In 1996 a Telecom Act 
was passed that accomplished the following:

~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
of competition.

~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
license renewals.

~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach. Together, just 
five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
prime-time viewing.

~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
Born from this was Clear Channel.

One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
`decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.

Astromancer wrote:
> Comcrap(HIS)
>
> Martin mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a
package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven
months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
> 
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is
and, therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> 

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Reece Jennings
Just curious...if one doesn't use Comcast in your areas, what are the other
options?
We don't have any except AT&T and Dish...
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:11 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com
<http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt net

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Reece Jennings
OUCH!  THAT'S an image I could have done without!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:26 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



As long as no one picks up the soap, we're good... 8-O

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:
Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com
<http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> 

_ 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
I don't care...I think the show is good stuff...There's a lot of things going 
on and make for a really unteresting plot to follow...That is, if you don't 
waste time focusing on who's punching or shooting who...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I agree with you, Keith. From the 
three eps of this I have caught, it doesn't come across as "guy show"-ish only 
through the gunplay. And that's not that often.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing in my 
review that deems this a "guy's show". The "family dynamic" deals 
with--families. Husbands and wives, daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers 
and sisters. Women are very central to this show. I'm not getting where you 
draw that conclusion. If you mean because I talk about the conspiracy of the 
nuclear attacks, well, there are women central to that plot as well. and i know 
lots of and lots of women who'd find that theme interesting. And i really don't 
understand the survivalist thing either: this is more than just a bunch of nuts 
out in the woods running around, this is about the survival of real cities. As 
i stated, this is about how *any* of us would react if--some might say 
when--this happened to us. somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote 
only that it's some high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to 
guys. If I conveyed that impression from my words,
then mea culpa. It's way more than that. It's ce
rtainly not a "big mess". And like I said, maybe the superficial description of 
the plots seems obvious and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is 
anything but. You just may not like it, but i think that's personal preference. 
It is definitely way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing but 
survivalists and fighting.

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In a message dated 2/24/2008 1:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I need to find my early reviews of Jericho. But quickly: 

My first impression was negative, saying it seemed cliched, that i was sick 
of the Middle America angle--salt-of-the-Earth farmers facing Armaggeddon, etc. 
Thought all the domestic family stuff would get boring. But after three or 
four more shows in, i was intrigued, then, hooked. It's hard to explain unless 
you watch it for a while. simply put, the characters aren't cliched, but seem 
real. There's the son of the mayor who's having an affair with the local bar 
owner, and leaves his wife. Hell of a timing, that, which causes major 
resentment. There's Skeet's prodigal son returning, at odds with his dad, but 
brought 
together by the crisis. not an original storyline, i'll grant, but the writing, 
the characters, and the realism of it work. Nothing's easier and harder to do 
than the multi-cast disaster show, replete with little battles, family 
squabbles, etc. When done wrong, it's indeed cliched and not satisfying 
("Independence Day" for example). But when done right, it actually does e
ngage you. You realize that even though the End of the World is nigh, that's 
when acting like real people--actually paying attention to all those little 
details of life, family and love--that will help you pull through. Gerald 
McRainey's character gave a speech once when the townspeople, full of fear and 
acting selfish, wanted to abandon the rescue of a bus of people down the road. 
After chastising them for letting the crisis erode their humanity, he says 
"People--don't you break my heart again". Sounds corny as hell, but put 
yourself in a 
situation like that and ask yourself, who do yo ukknow who'd risk his or her 
life for you? What friends would protect you, what friends would stab you in 
the back (perhaps literally) to save themsevles. How long could we remain 
civilized?

The family dynamics are good, but if that were all, i wouldn't have gotten 
hooked. Running parallel with that is the background story: who the hell bombed 
this country, and what is to come? what's the outside world doing? At one 
point, people thought China or Russia had bombed the US. They feared Chinese 
troops taking over Kansas, Russians controlling Washingtons. Or, perhaps 
Islamist 
terrorists staging a jihad. Enter Virgil Hawkins, a mysterious Brother who 
knows ay too much about nuclear warfare for a "cop from St. Louis". Quickly, 
despite their suspicions, the townspeople come to depend on Hawkins, who's not 
just 
knowledgeable, but tough, good in a fight, and a good leader. Hawkins pulls 
us into this deep conspiracy of what happened, of all the evil forces swirling 
around not just this little podunk town, but the entire US. So now, in 
addition to the family dramas, we have the Big Conspiracy angle, which is good. 
And Hawkins too has a life, as his family is in town with him, 
and we see this man who may hold the key to everything trying to win back his 
ex-wife, and regain the trust of his kids. Again, in the context in which 
it's down, i

Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
 i spend a lot of time following telecom and media matters, from the Net 
Neutrality thing, to free metropolitan wifi debates, to the ala carte 
discussion for cable selection. Bottom line is we're getting screwed in how we 
get media and info, and it's not necessarily getting any better.  The average 
American has no real idea how we're being taken..

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Newer subscribers have received better deals than me. Back in philly, I 
was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
better packages. I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
because of it?

Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation, I found out the following recently. In 1996 a Telecom Act 
was passed that accomplished the following:

~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
of competition.

~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
license renewals.

~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach. Together, just 
five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
prime-time viewing.

~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
Born from this was Clear Channel.

One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
`decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.

Astromancer wrote:
> Comcrap(HIS)
>
> Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. 
> My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they 
> just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought 
> out MediaOne.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much 
> more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
> "Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the 
> other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying 
> for a more expensive package
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
> 
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "The

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
(jerking upright before reaching the bar...)

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  As long as no one picks up the soap, 
we're good... 8-O

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I love being hosed by ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn&#x

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
...And I thought I overanalyzed things...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:21:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

and *that* might make it more fast paced, with less time to let those family 
and inter-personal things I was praising develop. 

Do you think that some people did not like it because it had actually 
substance and was not an action show from the beginning? 

Also since 9/11 people did not want to think about nuclear bomb and attacks 
on America?

**Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)

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Re: Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
Hooray Deregulation! :P

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 Newer subscribers have received better deals than me.  
Back in philly, I 
 was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
 better packages.  I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
 mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
 because of it?
 
 Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
 situation, I found out the following recently.  In 1996  a  Telecom Act 
 was passed that accomplished the following:
 
 ~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
 skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
 to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
 50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
 broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
 of competition.
 
 ~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
 could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
 had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
 the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
 eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
 license renewals.
 
 ~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
 could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach.  Together, just 
 five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
 Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
 prime-time viewing.
 
 ~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
 Born from this was Clear Channel.
 
 One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
 in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
 `decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.
 
 Astromancer wrote:
 > Comcrap(HIS)
 >
 > Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses 
 > us all. My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, 
 > and they just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since 
 > they bought out MediaOne.
 >
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much 
 > more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
 > "Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the 
 > other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying 
 > for a more expensive package
 >
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 > I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 >
 > Astromancer wrote:
 >   
 >> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 >> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 >>
 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 >> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 >> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 >> watching it?
 >>
 >> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 >> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 >> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 >> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 >> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they 
 >> didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that 
 >> strategy. ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
 >>
 >> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 >>
 >> -- Original message -- 
 >> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 >> Nuts.
 >>
 >> JJ Mohareb
 >>
 >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 >> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>
 >> 
 >>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
 >>> Source: SyFy Portal
 >>> Feb-21-2008
 >>>
 >>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
 >>>
 >>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 >>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 >>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 >>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
 >>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 >>>
 >>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 >>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
 >>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 >>

Comcrap Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Newer subscribers have received better deals than me.  Back in philly, I 
was with them for years and was always discovering everybody else had 
better packages.  I wonder, do they offer better packages when you 
mention how new subscribers have better deals and that you plan to leave 
because of it?

Since most of you (not you Maurice) are very upset by the telecom 
situation, I found out the following recently.  In 1996  a  Telecom Act 
was passed that accomplished the following:

~deregulated cable rates. Between 1996 and 2003, those rates have 
skyrocketed, increasing by nearly 50 percent. The Act permitted the FCC 
to ease cable-broadcast cross-ownership rules. Ninety percent of the top 
50 cable stations are owned by the same parent companies that own the 
broadcast networks, challenging the notion that cable is any real source 
of competition.

~The Act gave broadcasters, for free, valuable digital TV licenses that 
could have brought in up to $70 billion to the federal treasury if they 
had been auctioned off. The Act reduced broadcasters' accountability to 
the public by extending the term of a broadcast license from five to 
eight years, and made it more difficult for citizens to challenge those 
license renewals.

~Lifted from 12 the number of local TV stations any one corporation 
could own, and expanded the limit on audience reach.  Together, just 
five companies - Viacom, the parent of CBS, Disney, owner of ABC, News 
Corp, NBC and AOL, owner of Time Warner, now control 75 percent of all 
prime-time viewing.

~it lifted the limit on how many radio stations one company could own. - 
Born from this was Clear Channel.

One of the consequences of the 1996 Tele-Com Act has been the reduction 
in female and minority ownership of media, which has also resulted in a 
`decrease in women's and minority voices in news coverage.


Astromancer wrote:
> Comcrap(HIS)
>
> Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses 
> us all. My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, 
> and they just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since 
> they bought out MediaOne.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much 
> more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
> "Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the 
> other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying 
> for a more expensive package
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
>   
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>>
>>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>>> helped prompt network officials to move toward can

RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
As long as no one picks up the soap, we're good... 8-O

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Uh...Yeah, 
it does...
 
 Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I love being hosed by 
ComCast. 
 Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!
 
 Maurice Jennings
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
 
 Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
 similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
 ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
 
 KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
 don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
 in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
 League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
 things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
 package
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 
 Astromancer wrote:
 > Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 >
 > KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
 posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
 asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
 Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
 >
 > I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
 ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
 >
 > Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 >
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
 gmail.com> 
 > Nuts.
 >
 > JJ Mohareb
 >
 > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 > L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
 > 
 >> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 >>
 >>
 >> By MICHAEL HINMAN
 >> Source: SyFy Portal
 >> Feb-21-2008
 >>
 >> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
 >>
 >> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 >> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 >> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 >> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
 >> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 >>
 >> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 >> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
 >> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 >> do what [CBS] had to do."
 >>
 >> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 >> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 >> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 >> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
 >> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 >> of mainstream viewing habits.
 >>
 >> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 >> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 >> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 >> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
 >>

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Gymfig
 
In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:21:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

and *that* might make it more fast paced, with less time to let those family 
and inter-personal things I was praising develop. 

Do you think that some people did not like it because it had actually 
substance and was not an action show from the beginning? 
 
Also since 9/11 people did not want to think about nuclear bomb and attacks 
on America?



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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread KeithBJohnson
it may be a bit more action-oriented in the first few eps of this season since 
there was a conflict going on with their neighboring town. Now the conspiracy 
stuff is coming into play, as the military comes in, etc. If the show is indeed 
cancelled, they may accelerate things, and *that* might make it more fast 
paced, with less time to let those family and inter-personal things I was 
praising develop. 

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
In a message dated 2/24/2008 10:39:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing in my review that deems this a 
"guy's show". The "family dynamic" deals with--families. Husbands and wives, 
daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers and sisters. Women are very central 
to this show. I'm not getting where you draw that conclusion. 

You are right. It is just rare for a guy to talk about more than action.



And i really don't understand the survivalist thing either: this is more than 
just a bunch of nuts out in the woods running around, this is about the 
survival of real cities. As i stated, this is about how *any* of us would react 
if--some might say when--this happened to us. 
That is what I am talking about. The dynamics of people when in a"end of the 
world situation" usually has guys as the central characters. 


somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote only that it's some 
high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to guys.
I got it from the previews that CBS always shows. They always show action 
shots. They never show the emotional part of the story. 



If I conveyed that impression from my words, then mea culpa. It's way more 
than that. It's ce
rtainly not a "big mess". 
" A big mess " =some many different themes going on at once. 


And like I said, maybe the superficial description of the plots seems obvious 
and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is anything but. You 
just may not like it, but i think that's personal preference. It is definitely 
way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing but survivalists and 
fighting.
Mayb I should watch it. The preview for the show had a man from Wyoming 
coming in and taking over. That is why I thought it as a man show. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Gymfig
In a message dated 2/24/2008 10:39:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing in my review that deems this a 
"guy's show".  The "family dynamic" deals with--families. Husbands and wives, 
daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers and sisters.  Women are very central 
to this show. I'm not getting where you draw that conclusion. 
 
You are right. It is just rare for a guy to talk about more than action.
 
 

And i really don't understand the survivalist thing either: this is more than 
just a bunch of nuts out in the woods running around, this is about the 
survival of real cities. As i stated, this is about how *any* of us would react 
if--some might say when--this happened to us. 
That is what I am talking about. The dynamics of people when in a"end of the 
world situation" usually has guys as the central characters. 
 

somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote only that it's some 
high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to guys.
I got it from the previews that CBS always shows. They always show action 
shots. They never show the emotional part of the story. 
 
 

If I conveyed that impression from my words, then mea culpa. It's way more 
than that. It's ce
rtainly not a "big mess". 
" A big mess "  =some many different themes going on at once. 
 

And like I said, maybe the superficial description of the plots seems obvious 
and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is anything but.You 
just may not like it, but i think that's personal preference. It is definitely 
way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing but survivalists and 
fighting.
Mayb I should watch it. The preview for the show had a man from Wyoming 
coming in and taking over.  That is why I thought it as a man show. 



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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Uh...Yeah, it does...

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I love being hosed by 
ComCast. 
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>&g

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
I agree with you, Keith. From the three eps of this I have caught, it doesn't 
come across as "guy show"-ish only through the gunplay. And that's not that 
often.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing 
in my review that deems this a "guy's show". The "family dynamic" deals 
with--families. Husbands and wives, daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers 
and sisters. Women are very central to this show. I'm not getting where you 
draw that conclusion. If you mean because I talk about the conspiracy of the 
nuclear attacks, well, there are women central to that plot as well. and i know 
lots of and lots of women who'd find that theme interesting. And i really don't 
understand the survivalist thing either: this is more than just a bunch of nuts 
out in the woods running around, this is about the survival of real cities. As 
i stated, this is about how *any* of us would react if--some might say 
when--this happened to us. somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote 
only that it's some high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to 
guys. If I conveyed that impression from my words,
 then mea culpa. It's way more than that. It's ce
rtainly not a "big mess". And like I said, maybe the superficial description of 
the plots seems obvious and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is 
anything but. You just may not like it, but i think that's personal preference. 
It is definitely way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing but 
survivalists and fighting.

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In a message dated 2/24/2008 1:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I need to find my early reviews of Jericho. But quickly: 

My first impression was negative, saying it seemed cliched, that i was sick 
of the Middle America angle--salt-of-the-Earth farmers facing Armaggeddon, etc. 
Thought all the domestic family stuff would get boring. But after three or 
four more shows in, i was intrigued, then, hooked. It's hard to explain unless 
you watch it for a while. simply put, the characters aren't cliched, but seem 
real. There's the son of the mayor who's having an affair with the local bar 
owner, and leaves his wife. Hell of a timing, that, which causes major 
resentment. There's Skeet's prodigal son returning, at odds with his dad, but 
brought 
together by the crisis. not an original storyline, i'll grant, but the writing, 
the characters, and the realism of it work. Nothing's easier and harder to do 
than the multi-cast disaster show, replete with little battles, family 
squabbles, etc. When done wrong, it's indeed cliched and not satisfying 
("Independence Day" for example). But when done right, it actually does e
ngage you. You realize that even though the End of the World is nigh, that's 
when acting like real people--actually paying attention to all those little 
details of life, family and love--that will help you pull through. Gerald 
McRainey's character gave a speech once when the townspeople, full of fear and 
acting selfish, wanted to abandon the rescue of a bus of people down the road. 
After chastising them for letting the crisis erode their humanity, he says 
"People--don't you break my heart again". Sounds corny as hell, but put 
yourself in a 
situation like that and ask yourself, who do yo ukknow who'd risk his or her 
life for you? What friends would protect you, what friends would stab you in 
the back (perhaps literally) to save themsevles. How long could we remain 
civilized?

The family dynamics are good, but if that were all, i wouldn't have gotten 
hooked. Running parallel with that is the background story: who the hell bombed 
this country, and what is to come? what's the outside world doing? At one 
point, people thought China or Russia had bombed the US. They feared Chinese 
troops taking over Kansas, Russians controlling Washingtons. Or, perhaps 
Islamist 
terrorists staging a jihad. Enter Virgil Hawkins, a mysterious Brother who 
knows ay too much about nuclear warfare for a "cop from St. Louis". Quickly, 
despite their suspicions, the townspeople come to depend on Hawkins, who's not 
just 
knowledgeable, but tough, good in a fight, and a good leader. Hawkins pulls 
us into this deep conspiracy of what happened, of all the evil forces swirling 
around not just this little podunk town, but the entire US. So now, in 
addition to the family dramas, we have the Big Conspiracy angle, which is good. 
And Hawkins too has a life, as his family is in town with him, 
and we see this man who may hold the key to everything trying to win back his 
ex-wife, and regain the trust of his kids. Again, in the context in which 
it's down, it's compelling. And how cool, how refreshing to see a Black man 
giving so much screentime, and made such a smart, capable, necessary character.

If all that weren't enough, back to the "how long can we remain civilized?" 
thing. There's the crimi

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Martin
(evil thoughts following hiss)

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Comcrap(HIS)

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My 
new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just 
signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out 
MediaOne.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more 
robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
"Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other 
channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a 
more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-25 Thread Astromancer
Comcrap(HIS)

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us 
all. My new neighbors have a package similar to the one Tracey describes, and 
they just signed on seven months ago. I've been with this outfit since they 
bought out MediaOne.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more 
robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
"Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other 
channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a 
more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
looking at what I wrote i don't see one thing in my review that deems this a 
"guy's show".  The "family dynamic" deals with--families. Husbands and wives, 
daughters and daughters-in-low, brothers and sisters.  Women are very central 
to this show. I'm not getting where you draw that conclusion. If you mean 
because I talk about the conspiracy of the nuclear attacks, well, there are 
women central to that plot as well. and i know lots of and lots of women who'd 
find that theme interesting. And i really don't understand the survivalist 
thing either: this is more than just a bunch of nuts out in the woods running 
around, this is about the survival of real cities. As i stated, this is about 
how *any* of us would react if--some might say when--this happened to us. 
somehow you seem to have gleaned from all i wrote only that it's some 
high-action paramilitary survivalist series that appeals to guys. If I conveyed 
that impression from my words, then mea culpa. It's way more than that. It's ce
rtainly not a "big mess". And like I said, maybe the superficial description of 
the plots seems obvious and cliched, but as I said, how it's put together is 
anything but.You just may not like it, but i think that's personal 
preference. It is definitely way more than a dumb guy's show focused on nothing 
but survivalists and fighting.

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In a message dated 2/24/2008 1:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I need to find my early reviews of Jericho. But quickly: 

My first impression was negative, saying it seemed cliched, that i was sick 
of the Middle America angle--salt-of-the-Earth farmers facing Armaggeddon, etc. 
Thought all the domestic family stuff would get boring. But after three or 
four more shows in, i was intrigued, then, hooked. It's hard to explain unless 
you watch it for a while. simply put, the characters aren't cliched, but seem 
real. There's the son of the mayor who's having an affair with the local bar 
owner, and leaves his wife. Hell of a timing, that, which causes major 
resentment. There's Skeet's prodigal son returning, at odds with his dad, but 
brought 
together by the crisis. not an original storyline, i'll grant, but the writing, 
the characters, and the realism of it work. Nothing's easier and harder to do 
than the multi-cast disaster show, replete with little battles, family 
squabbles, etc. When done wrong, it's indeed cliched and not satisfying 
("Independence Day" for example). But when done right, it actually does e
ngage you. You realize that even though the End of the World is nigh, that's 
when acting like real people--actually paying attention to all those little 
details of life, family and love--that will help you pull through. Gerald 
McRainey's character gave a speech once when the townspeople, full of fear and 
acting selfish, wanted to abandon the rescue of a bus of people down the road. 
After chastising them for letting the crisis erode their humanity, he says 
"People--don't you break my heart again". Sounds corny as hell, but put 
yourself in a 
situation like that and ask yourself, who do yo ukknow who'd risk his or her 
life for you? What friends would protect you, what friends would stab you in 
the back (perhaps literally) to save themsevles. How long could we remain 
civilized?

The family dynamics are good, but if that were all, i wouldn't have gotten 
hooked. Running parallel with that is the background story: who the hell bombed 
this country, and what is to come? what's the outside world doing? At one 
point, people thought China or Russia had bombed the US. They feared Chinese 
troops taking over Kansas, Russians controlling Washingtons. Or, perhaps 
Islamist 
terrorists staging a jihad. Enter Virgil Hawkins, a mysterious Brother who 
knows ay too much about nuclear warfare for a "cop from St. Louis". Quickly, 
despite their suspicions, the townspeople come to depend on Hawkins, who's not 
just 
knowledgeable, but tough, good in a fight, and a good leader. Hawkins pulls 
us into this deep conspiracy of what happened, of all the evil forces swirling 
around not just this little podunk town, but the entire US. So now, in 
addition to the family dramas, we have the Big Conspiracy angle, which is good. 
And Hawkins too has a life, as his family is in town with him, 
and we see this man who may hold the key to everything trying to win back his 
ex-wife, and regain the trust of his kids. Again, in the context in which 
it's down, it's compelling. And how cool, how refreshing to see a Black man 
giving so much screentime, and made such a smart, capable, necessary character.

If all that weren't enough, back to the "how long can we remain civilized?" 
thing. There's the criminal--the fahter of one of the Jericho women--who's been 
a thief and smuggler and God knows what else for years, who organizes a basic 
paramilitary gang of crooks, carving out his own niche in 

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread Gymfig
 
In a message dated 2/24/2008 1:19:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I need to find my early reviews of Jericho. But quickly: 

My first impression was negative, saying it seemed cliched, that i was sick 
of the Middle America angle--salt-of-the-Earth farmers facing Armaggeddon, etc. 
Thought all the domestic family stuff would get boring. But after three or 
four more shows in, i was intrigued, then, hooked. It's hard to explain unless 
you watch it for a while. simply put, the characters aren't cliched, but seem 
real. There's the son of the mayor who's having an affair with the local bar 
owner, and leaves his wife. Hell of a timing, that, which causes major 
resentment. There's Skeet's prodigal son returning, at odds with his dad, but 
brought 
together by the crisis. not an original storyline, i'll grant, but the writing, 
the characters, and the realism of it work. Nothing's easier and harder to do 
than the multi-cast disaster show, replete with little battles, family 
squabbles, etc. When done wrong, it's indeed cliched and not satisfying 
("Independence Day" for example). But when done right, it actually does e
ngage you. You realize that even though the End of the World is nigh, that's 
when acting like real people--actually paying attention to all those little 
details of life, family and love--that will help you pull through. Gerald 
McRainey's character gave a speech once when the townspeople, full of fear and 
acting selfish, wanted to abandon the rescue of a bus of people down the road. 
After chastising them for letting the crisis erode their humanity, he says 
"People--don't you break my heart again". Sounds corny as hell, but put 
yourself in a 
situation like that and ask yourself, who do yo ukknow who'd risk his or her 
life for you? What friends would protect you, what friends would stab you in 
the back (perhaps literally) to save themsevles. How long could we remain 
civilized?

The family dynamics are good, but if that were all, i wouldn't have gotten 
hooked. Running parallel with that is the background story: who the hell bombed 
this country, and what is to come? what's the outside world doing? At one 
point, people thought China or Russia had bombed the US. They feared Chinese 
troops taking over Kansas, Russians controlling Washingtons. Or, perhaps 
Islamist 
terrorists staging a jihad. Enter Virgil Hawkins, a mysterious Brother who 
knows ay too much about nuclear warfare for a "cop from St. Louis". Quickly, 
despite their suspicions, the townspeople come to depend on Hawkins, who's not 
just 
knowledgeable, but tough,  good in a fight, and a good leader. Hawkins pulls 
us into this deep conspiracy of what happened, of all the evil forces swirling 
around not just this little podunk town, but the entire US.  So  now, in 
addition to the family dramas, we have the Big Conspiracy angle, which is good. 
And Hawkins too has a life, as his family is in town with him, 
and we see this man who may hold the key to everything trying to win back his 
ex-wife, and regain the trust of his kids. Again, in the context in which 
it's down, it's compelling. And how cool, how refreshing to see a Black man 
giving so much screentime, and made such a smart, capable, necessary character.

If all that weren't enough, back to the "how long can we remain civilized?" 
thing. There's the criminal--the fahter of one of the Jericho women--who's been 
a thief and smuggler and God knows what else for years, who organizes a basic 
paramilitary gang of crooks, carving out his own niche in the new world. 
there's the gangs of people who roam through at times, some good, some with 
evil 
intent. When do you welcome stragglers, when do you prepare for a fight? And 
then there's the town of New Bern, run by a sheriff who decides that it's kill 
or be killed, who pretty quickly institutes a police state in his town (opposed 
to McRainey's continual appeal for cooperation among his people).And quickly, 
New Bern becomes an outright threat, bent on the conquest of Jericho, which 
makes for some exciting shows.

The best series don't always grab you from the first show. Some like "Lost" 
get you from the first scene, others like "Babylon 5" take time. You have to 
slowly take in what they're building, step back and let lots of different 
aspects of the show play out and form a large, complicated picture. Often the 
reward 
is better for that. "Jericho" is a show that juggles many themes, many 
plotlines, many characters, but which gets it right and makes for an 
entertaining, 
engrossing story. You won't get that unless you give it time. Just go in and 
out with an ep here or there, and you will indeed come away saying "what's the 
big deal?"

So it is a guys tv show that is a big mess that could not find an audience 
except for survivalists. 
 
 
They way you describe it made it so themed. I know that you like dit but it 
just did not seem right for network tv. 



**Ideas to pl

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread Martin
Isn't that the truth?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   same here. I need to 
compare my basic and advanced package with Tracey. But nothing makes you madder 
than seeing new subscribers getting awesome deals
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package 
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months ago. 
I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much 
more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
"Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other 
channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a 
more expensive package
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 
 Astromancer wrote:
 > Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 > therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 >
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 > then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 > and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 > watching it?
 >
 > I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 > again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 > the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 > them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 > rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
 > I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
 > ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
 >
 > Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 >
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 > Nuts.
 >
 > JJ Mohareb
 >
 > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 > L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > 
 >> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 >>
 >>
 >> By MICHAEL HINMAN
 >> Source: SyFy Portal
 >> Feb-21-2008
 >>
 >> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
 >>
 >> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 >> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 >> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 >> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
 >> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 >>
 >> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 >> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
 >> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 >> do what [CBS] had to do."
 >>
 >> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 >> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 >> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 >> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
 >> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 >> of mainstream viewing habits.
 >>
 >> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 >> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 >> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 >> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
 >>
 >> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 >> room to change their mind.
 >>
 >> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 >> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
 >> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 >> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 >> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
 >>
 >> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 >> treated as any rumor would.
 >>
 >> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
 >>
 >> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 
 >
 > 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
I need to find my early reviews of Jericho. But quickly: 

My first impression was negative, saying it seemed cliched, that i was sick of 
the Middle America angle--salt-of-the-Earth farmers facing Armaggeddon, etc. 
Thought all the domestic family stuff would get boring. But after three or four 
more shows in, i was intrigued, then, hooked. It's hard to explain unless you 
watch it for a while. simply put, the characters aren't cliched, but seem real. 
There's the son of the mayor who's having an affair with the local bar owner, 
and leaves his wife. Hell of a timing, that, which causes major resentment. 
There's Skeet's prodigal son returning, at odds with his dad, but brought 
together by the crisis. not an original storyline, i'll grant, but the writing, 
the characters, and the realism of it work. Nothing's easier and harder to do 
than the multi-cast disaster show, replete with little battles, family 
squabbles, etc. When done wrong, it's indeed cliched and not satisfying 
("Independence Day" for example). But when done right, it actually does e
ngage you. You realize that even though the End of the World is nigh, that's 
when acting like real people--actually paying attention to all those little 
details of life, family and love--that will help you pull through. Gerald 
McRainey's character gave a speech once when the townspeople, full of fear and 
acting selfish, wanted to abandon the rescue of a bus of people down the road. 
After chastising them for letting the crisis erode their humanity, he says 
"People--don't you break my heart again". Sounds corny as hell, but put 
yourself in a situation like that and ask yourself, who do yo ukknow who'd risk 
his or her life for you? What friends would protect you, what friends would 
stab you in the back (perhaps literally) to save themsevles. How long could we 
remain civilized?

The family dynamics are good, but if that were all, i wouldn't have gotten 
hooked. Running parallel with that is the background story: who the hell bombed 
this country, and what is to come? what's the outside world doing? At one 
point, people thought China or Russia had bombed the US. They feared Chinese 
troops taking over Kansas, Russians controlling Washingtons. Or, perhaps 
Islamist terrorists staging a jihad. Enter Virgil Hawkins, a mysterious Brother 
who knows ay too much about nuclear warfare for a "cop from St. Louis". 
Quickly, despite their suspicions, the townspeople come to depend on Hawkins, 
who's not just knowledgeable, but tough,  good in a fight, and a good leader. 
Hawkins pulls us into this deep conspiracy of what happened, of all the evil 
forces swirling around not just this little podunk town, but the entire US.  So 
 now, in addition to the family dramas, we have the Big Conspiracy angle, which 
is good. And Hawkins too has a life, as his family is in town with him, 
and we see this man who may hold the key to everything trying to win back his 
ex-wife, and regain the trust of his kids. Again, in the context in which it's 
down, it's compelling. And how cool, how refreshing to see a Black man giving 
so much screentime, and made such a smart, capable, necessary character.

If all that weren't enough, back to the "how long can we remain civilized?" 
thing. There's the criminal--the fahter of one of the Jericho women--who's been 
a thief and smuggler and God knows what else for years, who organizes a basic 
paramilitary gang of crooks, carving out his own niche in the new world. 
there's the gangs of people who roam through at times, some good, some with 
evil intent. When do you welcome stragglers, when do you prepare for a fight? 
And then there's the town of New Bern, run by a sheriff who decides that it's 
kill or be killed, who pretty quickly institutes a police state in his town 
(opposed to McRainey's continual appeal for cooperation among his people).And 
quickly, New Bern becomes an outright threat, bent on the conquest of Jericho, 
which makes for some exciting shows.

The best series don't always grab you from the first show. Some like "Lost" get 
you from the first scene, others like "Babylon 5" take time. You have to slowly 
take in what they're building, step back and let lots of different aspects of 
the show play out and form a large, complicated picture. Often the reward is 
better for that. "Jericho" is a show that juggles many themes, many plotlines, 
many characters, but which gets it right and makes for an entertaining, 
engrossing story. You won't get that unless you give it time. Just go in and 
out with an ep here or there, and you will indeed come away saying "what's the 
big deal?"

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

In a message dated 2/24/2008 2:02:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Only one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. 
Is anyone here watching it?

Wasn't that sad? *grin* 

What was so great about Jericho to begin with? It seem

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread KeithBJohnson
same here. I need to compare my basic and advanced package with Tracey. But 
nothing makes you madder than seeing new subscribers getting awesome deals

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package 
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months ago. 
I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more 
robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from 
"Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other 
channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a 
more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread Martin
LMNAO!!

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I love 
being hosed by ComCast.  
 Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!
  
  Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
 <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
  
  
  
 
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
 
 Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
 similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
 ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.
 
 KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
 don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
 in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
 League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
 things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
 package
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 
 Astromancer wrote:
 > Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 >
 > KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
 posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
 asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
 Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
 >
 > I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
 ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
 >
 > Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 >
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
 gmail.com> 
 > Nuts.
 >
 > JJ Mohareb
 >
 > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 > L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
 > 
 >> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 >>
 >>
 >> By MICHAEL HINMAN
 >> Source: SyFy Portal
 >> Feb-21-2008
 >>
 >> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
 >>
 >> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 >> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 >> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 >> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
 >> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 >>
 >> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 >> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
 >> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 >> do what [CBS] had to do."
 >>
 >> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 >> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 >> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 >> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
 >> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 >> of mainstream viewing habits.
 >>
 >> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 >> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 >> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 >> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
 >>
 >> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 &

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread Gymfig
 
In a message dated 2/24/2008 2:02:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Only one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. 
Is anyone here watching it?

Wasn't that sad?  *grin* 
 
What was so great about Jericho to begin with? It seems to me that they 
should have had some more storylines before they started on the end of the 
world. 
It is kind of like a a sitcom with kids that are already in their teens. You 
really can;t have a lot of episodes  because they would be college age and out 
of the house in two seasons.  It also did not help that it was post 9/11 or a 
TV series of The Day After. 



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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread Reece Jennings
I love being hosed by ComCast.  
Wait...that sounds like a prison thing!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 7:51 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho



Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months
ago. I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: i
don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here
in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice
League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The
things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive
package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and,
therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: I
posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from
Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series
again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched
the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch
them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would
rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't.
I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy.
ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com>
gmail.com> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fa

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread Martin
Keith, that's where Comcrap hoses us all. My new neighbors have a package 
similar to the one Tracey describes, and they just signed on seven months ago. 
I've been with this outfit since they bought out MediaOne.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   i don't get why your 
Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get 
anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick 
("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've 
had to get by paying for a more expensive package
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 
 Astromancer wrote:
 > Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 > therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 >
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 > then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 > and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 > watching it?
 >
 > I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 > again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 > the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 > them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 > rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
 > I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
 > ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
 >
 > Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 >
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 > Nuts.
 >
 > JJ Mohareb
 >
 > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 > L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > 
 >> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 >>
 >>
 >> By MICHAEL HINMAN
 >> Source: SyFy Portal
 >> Feb-21-2008
 >>
 >> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
 >>
 >> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 >> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 >> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 >> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
 >> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 >>
 >> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 >> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
 >> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 >> do what [CBS] had to do."
 >>
 >> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 >> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 >> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 >> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
 >> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 >> of mainstream viewing habits.
 >>
 >> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 >> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 >> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 >> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
 >>
 >> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 >> room to change their mind.
 >>
 >> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 >> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
 >> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 >> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 >> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
 >>
 >> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 >> treated as any rumor would.
 >>
 >> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
 >>
 >> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> 
 >
 > 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-24 Thread Martin
(SPIT!!!)

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   (SPIT!!!)
 
 "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 You have to remember that I could barely walk or work for the longest 
 time, and we just moved to the Seattle area, so I got a special rate on 
 an expensive package because I could not do anything for so long. That 
 included phone, Internet and two premium channels set with movie 
 channels. Either that or the Seattle line up is more robust. I 
 definitely get more here than I got when we were in Philly. I have to 
 see if we get boomerang. I do not even know where that is. 
 
 The only network channel we get is CBS. I wish we got others. What do 
 they provide with your on your on demand line up?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 > i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here 
 > in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice 
 > League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The 
 > things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive 
 > package
 >
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 > I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
 >
 > Astromancer wrote:
 > 
 >> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 >> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
 >>
 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 >> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 >> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 >> watching it?
 >>
 >> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 >> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 >> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 >> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 >> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they 
 >> didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that 
 >> strategy. ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
 >>
 >> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 >>
 >> -- Original message -- 
 >> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 >> Nuts.
 >>
 >> JJ Mohareb
 >>
 >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 >> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >>
 >> 
 >>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
 >>> Source: SyFy Portal
 >>> Feb-21-2008
 >>>
 >>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
 >>>
 >>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 >>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 >>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 >>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
 >>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 >>>
 >>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 >>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
 >>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 >>> do what [CBS] had to do."
 >>>
 >>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 >>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 >>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 >>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
 >>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 >>> of mainstream viewing habits.
 >>>
 >>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 >>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 >>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 >>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
 >>>
 >>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 >>> room to change their mind.
 >>>
 >>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 >>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
 >>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 >>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 >>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
 >>>
 >>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 >>> treated as any rumor would.
 >>>
 >>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
 >>>
 >>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> 
 >> 
 >
 > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 >

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
(SPIT!!!)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
You have to remember that I could barely walk or work for the longest 
time, and we just moved to the Seattle area, so I got a special rate on 
an expensive package because I could not do anything for so long. That 
included phone, Internet and two premium channels set with movie 
channels. Either that or the Seattle line up is more robust. I 
definitely get more here than I got when we were in Philly. I have to 
see if we get boomerang. I do not even know where that is. 

The only network channel we get is CBS. I wish we got others. What do 
they provide with your on your on demand line up?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here 
> in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice League, 
> for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The things you 
> can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
> 
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>>
>>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>>
>>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>>
>>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>>> room to change their mind.
>>>
>>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>>
>>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>>> treated as any rumor would.
>>>
>>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>>
>>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I forgot.  I'm sorry

Astromancer wrote:
> Pleasedon't mention the 'C' word...(spit! spit! spit!)
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
>   
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>>
>>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>>
>>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>>
>>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>>> room to change their mind.
>>>
>>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>>
>>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>>> treated as any rumor would.
>>>
>>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>>
>>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You have to remember that I could barely walk or work for the longest 
time, and we just moved to the Seattle area, so I got a special rate on 
an expensive package because I could not do anything for so long.  That 
included phone, Internet and two premium channels set with movie 
channels.  Either that or the Seattle line up is more robust.   I 
definitely get more here than I got when we were in Philly.  I have to 
see if we get boomerang.  I do not even know where that is. 

The only network channel we get is CBS.  I wish we got others.  What do 
they provide with your on  your on demand line up?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here 
> in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice League, 
> for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The things you 
> can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
>   
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>>
>>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>>
>>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>>
>>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>>> room to change their mind.
>>>
>>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>>
>>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>>> treated as any rumor would.
>>>
>>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>>
>>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
(Spit! spit!spit!)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so 
much more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful 
from "Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the 
other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for 
a more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
Pleasedon't mention the 'C' word...(spit! spit! spit!)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here in 
Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice League, for 
example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The things you can get 
On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I posted an e-mail the day the show was 
> returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only 
> one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is 
> anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>   


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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I posted an e-mail the day the show was 
returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one 
reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone 
here watching it?

I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series again 
in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the whole 
series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on my 
laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess they 
were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same 
thing with "Lost", which is maddening.

Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Nuts.

JJ Mohareb

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>
>
> By MICHAEL HINMAN
> Source: SyFy Portal
> Feb-21-2008
>
> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>
> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>
> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
> do what [CBS] had to do."
>
> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
> of mainstream viewing habits.
>
> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>
> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
> room to change their mind.
>
> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>
> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
> treated as any rumor would.
>
> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>
> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>
>
>

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-22 Thread KeithBJohnson
I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up 
asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from Gymfig, 
who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it?

I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series again 
in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the whole 
series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on my 
laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess they 
were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same 
thing with "Lost", which is maddening.

Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Nuts.

JJ Mohareb

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>
>
> By MICHAEL HINMAN
> Source: SyFy Portal
> Feb-21-2008
>
> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>
> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>
> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
> do what [CBS] had to do."
>
> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
> of mainstream viewing habits.
>
> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>
> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
> room to change their mind.
>
> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>
> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
> treated as any rumor would.
>
> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>
> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>
>
>

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-22 Thread Justin Mohareb
Nuts.

JJ Mohareb

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>
>
>  By MICHAEL HINMAN
>  Source: SyFy Portal
>  Feb-21-2008
>
>  It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>
>  Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>  finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>  endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>  season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>  to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>
>  "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>  'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>  asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>  do what [CBS] had to do."
>
>  Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>  worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>  helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>  is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>  struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>  of mainstream viewing habits.
>
>  At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>  that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>  -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>  and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>
>  But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>  room to change their mind.
>
>  "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>  I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>  have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>  campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>  down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>
>  Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>  treated as any rumor would.
>
>  "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>
>  http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>
>
>



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