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I do recall them playing Night of the Lepus. Too late... maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Lets just saying you know more than you think, but were not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I have a friend in Alabama who's had some nasty run-ins with our fine furry friends. I'm sure I could get him to work up a spec script. Martin (slapping himself silly for even mentioning that) maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Tracey, I think that Marian was referring to Peter Wingfield (a Welshman, BTB!), who looks a lot like Brody. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was a big fan back in the day. but I don't remember Adrian Brody being in the cast. What part did he play? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: I actually like the series especially after they brought in the Watchers and Adrien Brody. But this was merely silly. Special effects instead of plot. I left after 30 minutes. I didn't even slip back in to see how they ended it. I had a DVD of Hustle, Thank G-d. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Basically the Source tests people and McLeod passed. I got the idea that it would create a new race of humans too. Maybe when it's repeated, I'll try to watch it again (if aired in the middle of January and snow's falling outside). As for dumping someone who's sterile, I just don't get that, man or woman. There is this thing called adoption, and Lord knows there's enough kids of all colors who need a home that it's a viable option. Being adopted myself, I'm of course partial to it. I get the desire to have a child of one's own body if possible, but it's still not a good enough reason to dump someone in my opinion. As for Grizzly Rage, naw, I had too much camp already with Highlander. I don't even get movies like that. Even junk like Frankenfish are scifi of a kind, but is there a scifi element to movies like Grizzly, or is it just about an angry bear? -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole thing. I'm thinking, to my eternal chagrin, that the Source is analogous to something used in a series of movies by a guy named Lucas. (No vomiting smilies when you need them, dangit...) The alignment thing? Probably just to swipe a few million for the FX budget. Plot-wise, maybe to represent a singular cosmic event with grand ramifications. I have no idea why it would call to Anna. If an ending had come about that would've fulfilled the initial premise of the entire movie (made very early on, while the Asian Immortal was breaking into the place at the movie's beginning), that the uncovering of the Source would lead to a new renaissance on Earth, with Anna's humanity as a catalyst for that change, then it would've made sense. As they left it, it came out as just an excuse for Duncan to grant her fond wish and knock her up (the reason they split, f memorry serves- she wanted kids and was okay with his Immortality until she learned that making babies was out for him). Maybe, by his choosing not to kill, he gave the Source reason to believe that mankind was deserving of hope? Why kill Joe? Because they're evil bastiches over at Skiffy, that's why. (I did tear up during his death scene, I admit. And I was hoping that he'd become Immortal too.) As for Anna dumping Mac just because he can't hav ekids? That's closer to real life than you might believe. I can't have kids, and a woman dumped me for jsut that reason (though she never admitted it). But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Martin (*had* to end this meeting on a high note, apologies to Cloris Leachman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you watch the whole thing? Please explain the plot to me if so. Some major questions (Spoilers, but it really doesn't matter): 1) Exactly what *is* the Source and where was it? Was it accessed via a portal to another dimension, or does it physically reside on Earth? 2) What the hell did the Cosmos aligning have to do with it? 3 Why did the Source call to the human lady if the Guardian was meant to kill all who approach it? 4) Since McLeod refused to kill, what the hell did the Source do for him besides allowing him to father children? 5) Why the hell kill Joe Dawson?? At least Methos lived 6) How shallow is that human lady, rejecting McLeod because he can't have kids? So it's okay that'll he'll be young and vital when she's old and grey, and that his life involves beheading people--but can't hang with a sterile man?? -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, how I suffered. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys have *got* to see this Highlander debacle just to laugh/cry at how bad it is! The bad guy--some crap about a Guardian who protects the secrect of the Source--looks like Thomas Hayden Church in his Spidey-3 pumped up bod, with white makeup applied. He moves at superspeed thanks to his connection to that Source.What that means is the fights scenes--one of the best aspects of the series--look like crap! Literally looks like music video work, with starts and stops, an infinite number of camera angle changes. Ugghh! The story: There's this incredibly ridiculous junk about the Source of all Immortals being on Earth (or at least accessible from a physical point on Earth). There's some stuff about another Grand Alignment with all the planets in the Solar System pointing the way to the Source. or something. Honestly, I can't remember the point. I think during certain times the Source can be accessed physically, and the Grand Alignment points the way. I think. At any rate, in the first five minutes, one of the Immortals says that the stars in the entire *galaxy* are lining up along a line to Earth! Aside from the utter impossibility of that--and the curious lack of news coverage--how the hell would you know? It'd take like
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Highlander Movie Debuting on SciFi Channel This Saturday
At least the old movies were funny camp. The ones about killer frogs (Frogs), bugs (Bugs), spiders (Kingdom of the Spiders), etc., were all so corny. It was great to see guys and girls with big hair running in their too-tight Britannia jeans from crazed giant ants! Or to see Love Boat regulars eaten alive by giant spiders! Also, as bad as the FX were back then--creatures grafted onto the film to appear larger than they were--I actually prefer that to the horrible CGI SciFi Originals use. At least the old things were *real* creatures. Most of Scifi's movie monsters look worse than CGI on a five-year old video game. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I like Highlander. Not like I like Star Trek, but...I've watched pretty much all of the Adrian Paul series and even one season of The Raven. To me, a Highlander movie has Christopher Lambert in it. This weekend, one of the Showtime networks showed the Highlander movie with Mario van Peebles. I watched it. It's horrible. It was embarrassing. But I watched it, saying to myself, the new one coming on Saturday will be better. It was not. There were many problems with this movie, but the one thing that ties them all together is the fact that nobody ASKED for this. If ever there was a franchise that needed to be put down -- for good -- it's Highlander. On 9/16/07 11:56 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links
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I¹m going to pitch Sci-Fi Channel a horror movie told from the perspective of the gophers in ³Caddyshack². This is the only ground they haven¹t covered. It would be the first sequel that changes genre from the original movie. Who¹s with me? On 9/17/07 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend in Alabama who's had some nasty run-ins with our fine furry friends. I'm sure I could get him to work up a spec script. Martin (slapping himself silly for even mentioning that) maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:md_moore42%40yahoo.com wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I get the camp. I used to watch those. Cherry 2000 this weekend is a good example. But this stuff is killing scifi. Next week, they are butchering Species. Even Species three was more palatable than what they are likely to do to there version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least the old movies were funny camp. The ones about killer frogs (Frogs), bugs (Bugs), spiders (Kingdom of the Spiders), etc., were all so corny. It was great to see guys and girls with big hair running in their too-tight Britannia jeans from crazed giant ants! Or to see Love Boat regulars eaten alive by giant spiders! Also, as bad as the FX were back then--creatures grafted onto the film to appear larger than they were--I actually prefer that to the horrible CGI SciFi Originals use. At least the old things were *real* creatures. Most of Scifi's movie monsters look worse than CGI on a five-year old video game. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Martin wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Talking bout all those bad movies got me tripping down memory lane. Tracey, you asked why we watch some of the bad junk. Well, in a word: fun! The old camp movies are so bad, so mind-numbingly devoid of acting, plot, and anything approaching production value, they're classics of camp that make you roar with laughter. That's why stuff like those old two-headed transplant and killer frog movies are hilarious. The problem, I think, wiht the moder SciFi Originals is that they aren't good enough to be enjoyed, and aren't cleverly bad enough to be enjoyed as camp. They're just crap. Highlander falls in that category, as to recent turkeys like Chubacabra, Gargoyles, etc. They're just plain awful. I think the old scifi turkeys at least look funny because of the cheesy clothing, hairstyles, and FX. The computer images used now are just bad, not funny. So maybe it takes time. Maybe thirty years from now we'll all be laughing uproariously about Highlander: The Source as a classic gem of good camp. Maybe--but I doubt it! My watching wreally applies to the older movies that I watch as a kid, and had no choice, and which now are funny. I skip the vast majority of Scifi Originals, only watching a few here and there that look halfway decent, or maybe watching if i'm home sick or it's a cold wintry night. Other than that, I really can't imagine that all that many people watch their stuff. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I never noticed the resemblance, but now that you mention it, they do look a little alike. I agree with her. Once they started developing the mythology behind the Watchers and developed Methos story-- moving beyond the immortal bad guy of the week, the story truly developed. I remember hating the first season, but being totally hooked thereafter.I aways wonder why the movies beyond the first one were never written as well as the series. Two cliffhanger episodes written in its normal style would have been better than the last few movies they regurgitated at us. Martin wrote: Tracey, I think that Marian was referring to Peter Wingfield (a Welshman, BTB!), who looks a lot like Brody. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I was a big fan back in the day. but I don't remember Adrian Brody being in the cast. What part did he play? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: I actually like the series especially after they brought in the Watchers and Adrien Brody. But this was merely silly. Special effects instead of plot. I left after 30 minutes. I didn't even slip back in to see how they ended it. I had a DVD of Hustle, Thank G-d. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Amen!!! Daryle wrote: If ever there was a franchise that needed to be put down -- for good -- it's Highlander. On 9/16/07 11:56 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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And saddest of all is that the main creators, writers, and producers behind the great series do the movies. I think it's a classic case of people written smaller stories for the small screen not knowing how to adapt for the big screen. Star Trek showed some of that weakness in later movies as I believe the TV crew basically kind of used filler to lift what were TV shows onto the big screen. Same with Highlander. They try to come up with big concepts, then throw an excess amount of light and sound and adult stuff (like the lady being nude in the movie where Conner dies) that I think to them says big screen. In doing so, it's as if they're streching the small skin of a TV show onto the big frame of the movies. This is a case where better experienced writers are needed to capture the spirit of the series on the big screen. One thing I will say about the first season, though. I liked many aspects of it because the true magic and mythology of the Immortals was in abundance. Remember in the first season they still said that the Gathering was taking place during that time. The stories had a more mystical feeling to them (such as the introduction of Darius, the Immortal warrior turned monk). Now, some crap from the first season was that nosy female reporter, and Tim Reid as the suspicious detective. That didn't work, but the first season really captured the wonder and magic of Immortality, and that aspect of it I loved. Later seasons were better overall, but until the last season, tended to downplay the magical aspects. The second season was horrible once they killed Tessa. After that, Duncan degenerated into a kind of Renegade hero, wandering around solving racial issues, fighting druglords, etc. It was like a standard cop/vigilante TV series with the Immortal angle. Second season was really weak, but the show got better in season three. The movies seem to me to be trying to inject the magic from the first season back into the themes, but fail miserably. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never noticed the resemblance, but now that you mention it, they do look a little alike. I agree with her. Once they started developing the mythology behind the Watchers and developed Methos story-- moving beyond the immortal bad guy of the week, the story truly developed. I remember hating the first season, but being totally hooked thereafter. I aways wonder why the movies beyond the first one were never written as well as the series. Two cliffhanger episodes written in its normal style would have been better than the last few movies they regurgitated at us. Martin wrote: Tracey, I think that Marian was referring to Peter Wingfield (a Welshman, BTB!), who looks a lot like Brody. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I was a big fan back in the day. but I don't remember Adrian Brody being in the cast. What part did he play? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: I actually like the series especially after they brought in the Watchers and Adrien Brody. But this was merely silly. Special effects instead of plot. I left after 30 minutes. I didn't even slip back in to see how they ended it. I had a DVD of Hustle, Thank G-d. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Myself, Tracey, I give them the MST3K treatment when I can remember to tune them in. Makes it surprisingly bearable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talking bout all those bad movies got me tripping down memory lane. Tracey, you asked why we watch some of the bad junk. Well, in a word: fun! The old camp movies are so bad, so mind-numbingly devoid of acting, plot, and anything approaching production value, they're classics of camp that make you roar with laughter. That's why stuff like those old two-headed transplant and killer frog movies are hilarious. The problem, I think, wiht the moder SciFi Originals is that they aren't good enough to be enjoyed, and aren't cleverly bad enough to be enjoyed as camp. They're just crap. Highlander falls in that category, as to recent turkeys like Chubacabra, Gargoyles, etc. They're just plain awful. I think the old scifi turkeys at least look funny because of the cheesy clothing, hairstyles, and FX. The computer images used now are just bad, not funny. So maybe it takes time. Maybe thirty years from now we'll all be laughing uproariously about Highlander: The Source as a classic gem of good camp. Maybe--but I doubt it! My watching wreally applies to the older movies that I watch as a kid, and had no choice, and which now are funny. I skip the vast majority of Scifi Originals, only watching a few here and there that look halfway decent, or maybe watching if i'm home sick or it's a cold wintry night. Other than that, I really can't imagine that all that many people watch their stuff. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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There should have been only one... (the series, I mean) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen!!! Daryle wrote: If ever there was a franchise that needed to be put down -- for good -- it's Highlander. On 9/16/07 11:56 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Normally, but I have ethical concerns regarding golf. But, if there's blood on the 18th green... Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I¹m going to pitch Sci-Fi Channel a horror movie told from the perspective of the gophers in ³Caddyshack². This is the only ground they haven¹t covered. It would be the first sequel that changes genre from the original movie. Who¹s with me? On 9/17/07 8:31 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend in Alabama who's had some nasty run-ins with our fine furry friends. I'm sure I could get him to work up a spec script. Martin (slapping himself silly for even mentioning that) maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:md_moore42%40yahoo.com wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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That is true about the first season. it is probably what kept me coming back Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And saddest of all is that the main creators, writers, and producers behind the great series do the movies. I think it's a classic case of people written smaller stories for the small screen not knowing how to adapt for the big screen. Star Trek showed some of that weakness in later movies as I believe the TV crew basically kind of used filler to lift what were TV shows onto the big screen. Same with Highlander. They try to come up with big concepts, then throw an excess amount of light and sound and adult stuff (like the lady being nude in the movie where Conner dies) that I think to them says big screen. In doing so, it's as if they're streching the small skin of a TV show onto the big frame of the movies. This is a case where better experienced writers are needed to capture the spirit of the series on the big screen. One thing I will say about the first season, though. I liked many aspects of it because the true magic and mythology of the Immortals was in abundance. Remember in the first season they still said that the Gathering was taking place during that time. The stories had a more mystical feeling to them (such as the introduction of Darius, the Immortal warrior turned monk). Now, some crap from the first season was that nosy female reporter, and Tim Reid as the suspicious detective. That didn't work, but the first season really captured the wonder and magic of Immortality, and that aspect of it I loved. Later seasons were better overall, but until the last season, tended to downplay the magical aspects. The second season was horrible once they killed Tessa. After that, Duncan degenerated into a kind of Renegade hero, wandering around solving racial issues, fighting druglords, etc. It was like a standard cop/vigilante TV series with the Immortal angle. Second season was really weak, but the show got better in season three. The movies seem to me to be trying to inject the magic from the first season back into the themes, but fail miserably. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I never noticed the resemblance, but now that you mention it, they do look a little alike. I agree with her. Once they started developing the mythology behind the Watchers and developed Methos story-- moving beyond the immortal bad guy of the week, the story truly developed. I remember hating the first season, but being totally hooked thereafter. I aways wonder why the movies beyond the first one were never written as well as the series. Two cliffhanger episodes written in its normal style would have been better than the last few movies they regurgitated at us. Martin wrote: Tracey, I think that Marian was referring to Peter Wingfield (a Welshman, BTB!), who looks a lot like Brody. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I was a big fan back in the day. but I don't remember Adrian Brody being in the cast. What part did he play? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: I actually like the series especially after they brought in the Watchers and Adrien Brody. But this was merely silly. Special effects instead of plot. I left after 30 minutes. I didn't even slip back in to see how they ended it. I had a DVD of Hustle, Thank G-d. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
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Don't fret, Marian. maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. The painful thing is that I found my mistake 10 minutes later and couldn't delete the message. (Well, I did, but obviously yahoo ignored me.) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracey, I think that Marian was referring to Peter Wingfield (a Welshman, BTB!), who looks a lot like Brody. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah, the tone, the music, even the look of the first season--all were very reminiscent of the first movie. Then, like I said, second season *sucked*. Then it got better again. The last couple of seasons is when they brought in that demon to bedevil Duncan, the crystals that would supposedly make an Immortal all powerful, etc. Again, more of the magic. Another thing I like about the last season of Highlander is that a long-overdue oversight was addressed: bringing in really tough female Immortals. There were at least two or three females who were great fighters, had their own agendas outside of simply falling in love with McLeod (one even rejected him outright!) Aside from Amanda and one or two others over the years, there were few female Immortals, and the ones they introduced weren't warriors. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is true about the first season. it is probably what kept me coming back Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And saddest of all is that the main creators, writers, and producers behind the great series do the movies. I think it's a classic case of people written smaller stories for the small screen not knowing how to adapt for the big screen. Star Trek showed some of that weakness in later movies as I believe the TV crew basically kind of used filler to lift what were TV shows onto the big screen. Same with Highlander. They try to come up with big concepts, then throw an excess amount of light and sound and adult stuff (like the lady being nude in the movie where Conner dies) that I think to them says big screen. In doing so, it's as if they're streching the small skin of a TV show onto the big frame of the movies. This is a case where better experienced writers are needed to capture the spirit of the series on the big screen. One thing I will say about the first season, though. I liked many aspects of it because the true magic and mythology of the Immortals was in abundance. Remember in the first season they still said that the Gathering was taking place during that time. The stories had a more mystical feeling to them (such as the introduction of Darius, the Immortal warrior turned monk). Now, some crap from the first season was that nosy female reporter, and Tim Reid as the suspicious detective. That didn't work, but the first season really captured the wonder and magic of Immortality, and that aspect of it I loved. Later seasons were better overall, but until the last season, tended to downplay the magical aspects. The second season was horrible once they killed Tessa. After that, Duncan degenerated into a kind of Renegade hero, wandering around solving racial issues, fighting druglords, etc. It was like a standard cop/vigilante TV series with the Immortal angle. Second season was really weak, but the show got better in season three. The movies seem to me to be trying to inject the magic from the first season back into the themes, but fail miserably. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I never noticed the resemblance, but now that you mention it, they do look a little alike. I agree with her. Once they started developing the mythology behind the Watchers and developed Methos story-- moving beyond the immortal bad guy of the week, the story truly developed. I remember hating the first season, but being totally hooked thereafter. I aways wonder why the movies beyond the first one were never written as well as the series. Two cliffhanger episodes written in its normal style would have been better than the last few movies they regurgitated at us. Martin wrote: Tracey, I think that Marian was referring to Peter Wingfield (a Welshman, BTB!), who looks a lot like Brody. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I was a big fan back in the day. but I don't remember Adrian Brody being in the cast. What part did he play? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: I actually like the series especially after they brought in the Watchers and Adrien Brody. But this was merely silly. Special effects instead of plot. I left after 30 minutes. I didn't even slip back in to see how they ended it. I had a DVD of Hustle, Thank G-d. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't
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Anything that premiers as part of Scifi Channel's most dangerous night of television you should set your lowest expectations. Was the Stir of Echoes sequel Butchered as well? Tracey maidmarian_thepoet wrote: O-M-G! I stepped into this a few minutes late and already it is horrendous. They've transported Highlander into a video game and a bad game at that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure you can find this movie--or versions of it, like the Russian one I mentioned--on the Net. And it'll probably show up on DVD soon... -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAMMIT!!! I hate Comcast! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a trailer from this flick several months ago, I think from a Russian release. Believe I dropped the link to the group, in fact. The creators say that any version other than the one being aired this Saturday is not officially approved, however. Not sure how I feel about this. I don't usually like when beings of mysticism like the immortals discover the source of their powers: it tends to ruin the mystery. But more, the Highlander movies have all sucked (all but the first), especially when compared to the TV series. I'm a little nervous about the quality of this upcoming trilogy. But of course I'll be there Saturday night About Highlander on SciFi Channel: http://www.scifi.com/highlander5/ http://www.scifi.com/highlander5/ Official Highlander site: http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html Celebrating 20 years of The Legend, Davis-Panzer Productions, Sequence Films and Grosvenor Park are proud to announce the upcoming 2007 release of HIGHLANDER: The Source. Brett Leonard is the director with Adrian Paul playing the immortal Scottish swordsman, Duncan MacLeod. This new adventure, starring Adrian Paul is the first feature in the Trilogy. The Source tells the story of Immortals as they quest to locate the Holy Grail of their world. The entire series of films will chronicle the origins of the Immortals. Director Brett Leonard commented This is a tremendous opportunity for a storyteller of this genre to take part in the mythology of 20 years. He continues that HIGHLANDER is an amazing ongoing story that I can bring my visual style to... Everything I have done has led me to this kind of mythical fantasy. Brett Leonard pioneered the creation of digital visual effects in filmmaking with 1992's Lawnmower Man, he also directed 1995's Virtuosity, and most recently completed Marvel's Man-Thing. He is heralded as a maverick in science fiction, fantasy and adventure by creating films with a strong visual presence. Peter Davis of Davis-Panzer Productions noted, We are truly celebrating this milestone in HIGHLANDER history by pairing Brett and Adrian in our newest Trilogy. We anticipate that this combination will recapture the filming glory of the original HIGHLANDER. Davis-Panzer Productions is busy further immortalizing the Clan MacLeod during the series' twentieth year with an anime feature film in partnership with Imagi and Madhouse of Japan and a video game with SCI Games Ltd. of London. There is no limit when your story is timeless and Immortal! HIGHLANDER: The Source will be distributed in North America through Lions Gate Films and in 40 foreign territories through the top independent distributors. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Let's just saying you know more than you think, but we're not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Can't say, Tracey. Missed that one. And I wanted to see it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anything that premiers as part of Scifi Channel's most dangerous night of television you should set your lowest expectations. Was the Stir of Echoes sequel Butchered as well? Tracey maidmarian_thepoet wrote: O-M-G! I stepped into this a few minutes late and already it is horrendous. They've transported Highlander into a video game and a bad game at that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure you can find this movie--or versions of it, like the Russian one I mentioned--on the Net. And it'll probably show up on DVD soon... -- Original message -- From: Astromancer DAMMIT!!! I hate Comcast! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a trailer from this flick several months ago, I think from a Russian release. Believe I dropped the link to the group, in fact. The creators say that any version other than the one being aired this Saturday is not officially approved, however. Not sure how I feel about this. I don't usually like when beings of mysticism like the immortals discover the source of their powers: it tends to ruin the mystery. But more, the Highlander movies have all sucked (all but the first), especially when compared to the TV series. I'm a little nervous about the quality of this upcoming trilogy. But of course I'll be there Saturday night About Highlander on SciFi Channel: http://www.scifi.com/highlander5/ Official Highlander site: http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html Celebrating 20 years of The Legend, Davis-Panzer Productions, Sequence Films and Grosvenor Park are proud to announce the upcoming 2007 release of HIGHLANDER: The Source. Brett Leonard is the director with Adrian Paul playing the immortal Scottish swordsman, Duncan MacLeod. This new adventure, starring Adrian Paul is the first feature in the Trilogy. The Source tells the story of Immortals as they quest to locate the Holy Grail of their world. The entire series of films will chronicle the origins of the Immortals. Director Brett Leonard commented This is a tremendous opportunity for a storyteller of this genre to take part in the mythology of 20 years. He continues that HIGHLANDER is an amazing ongoing story that I can bring my visual style to... Everything I have done has led me to this kind of mythical fantasy. Brett Leonard pioneered the creation of digital visual effects in filmmaking with 1992's Lawnmower Man, he also directed 1995's Virtuosity, and most recently completed Marvel's Man-Thing. He is heralded as a maverick in science fiction, fantasy and adventure by creating films with a strong visual presence. Peter Davis of Davis-Panzer Productions noted, We are truly celebrating this milestone in HIGHLANDER history by pairing Brett and Adrian in our newest Trilogy. We anticipate that this combination will recapture the filming glory of the original HIGHLANDER. Davis-Panzer Productions is busy further immortalizing the Clan MacLeod during the series' twentieth year with an anime feature film in partnership with Imagi and Madhouse of Japan and a video game with SCI Games Ltd. of London. There is no limit when your story is timeless and Immortal! HIGHLANDER: The Source will be distributed in North America through Lions Gate Films and in 40 foreign territories through the top independent distributors. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Let's just saying you know more than you think, but we're not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Don't let your dream ride pass you by.Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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To paraphrase the Biblical quote, I wept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. -- Original message -- From: maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] O-M-G! I stepped into this a few minutes late and already it is horrendous. They've transported Highlander into a video game and a bad game at that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure you can find this movie--or versions of it, like the Russian one I mentioned--on the Net. And it'll probably show up on DVD soon... -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAMMIT!!! I hate Comcast! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a trailer from this flick several months ago, I think from a Russian release. Believe I dropped the link to the group, in fact. The creators say that any version other than the one being aired this Saturday is not officially approved, however. Not sure how I feel about this. I don't usually like when beings of mysticism like the immortals discover the source of their powers: it tends to ruin the mystery. But more, the Highlander movies have all sucked (all but the first), especially when compared to the TV series. I'm a little nervous about the quality of this upcoming trilogy. But of course I'll be there Saturday night About Highlander on SciFi Channel: http://www.scifi.com/highlander5/ Official Highlander site: http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html Celebrating 20 years of The Legend, Davis-Panzer Productions, Sequence Films and Grosvenor Park are proud to announce the upcoming 2007 release of HIGHLANDER: The Source. Brett Leonard is the director with Adrian Paul playing the immortal Scottish swordsman, Duncan MacLeod. This new adventure, starring Adrian Paul is the first feature in the Trilogy. The Source tells the story of Immortals as they quest to locate the Holy Grail of their world. The entire series of films will chronicle the origins of the Immortals. Director Brett Leonard commented This is a tremendous opportunity for a storyteller of this genre to take part in the mythology of 20 years. He continues that HIGHLANDER is an amazing ongoing story that I can bring my visual style to... Everything I have done has led me to this kind of mythical fantasy. Brett Leonard pioneered the creation of digital visual effects in filmmaking with 1992's Lawnmower Man, he also directed 1995's Virtuosity, and most recently completed Marvel's Man-Thing. He is heralded as a maverick in science fiction, fantasy and adventure by creating films with a strong visual presence. Peter Davis of Davis-Panzer Productions noted, We are truly celebrating this milestone in HIGHLANDER history by pairing Brett and Adrian in our newest Trilogy. We anticipate that this combination will recapture the filming glory of the original HIGHLANDER. Davis-Panzer Productions is busy further immortalizing the Clan MacLeod during the series' twentieth year with an anime feature film in partnership with Imagi and Madhouse of Japan and a video game with SCI Games Ltd. of London. There is no limit when your story is timeless and Immortal! HIGHLANDER: The Source will be distributed in North America through Lions Gate Films and in 40 foreign territories through the top independent distributors. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Let's just saying you know more than you think, but we're not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play
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You guys have *got* to see this Highlander debacle just to laugh/cry at how bad it is! The bad guy--some crap about a Guardian who protects the secrect of the Source--looks like Thomas Hayden Church in his Spidey-3 pumped up bod, with white makeup applied. He moves at superspeed thanks to his connection to that Source.What that means is the fights scenes--one of the best aspects of the series--look like crap! Literally looks like music video work, with starts and stops, an infinite number of camera angle changes. Ugghh! The story: There's this incredibly ridiculous junk about the Source of all Immortals being on Earth (or at least accessible from a physical point on Earth). There's some stuff about another Grand Alignment with all the planets in the Solar System pointing the way to the Source. or something. Honestly, I can't remember the point. I think during certain times the Source can be accessed physically, and the Grand Alignment points the way. I think. At any rate, in the first five minutes, one of the Immortals says that the stars in the entire *galaxy* are lining up along a line to Earth! Aside from the utter impossibility of that--and the curious lack of news coverage--how the hell would you know? It'd take like 30,000 years to reach us from the center of the Milky Way, so that alignment would have *already* happened! But the scientific screw up is least of the problems here. The plot makes no sense, McLeod basically just drifts, brooding, through the film, with none of Adrian Paul' s strengths in evidence. Methos--my favorite character after McLeod--is truer to his amoral self, but he's not used all that much. There are caricatures in the form of a younger acting Immortal and a religious fanatic priest Immortal, but they're useless. And Amanda's missing. No Amanda?? I could have at least used Elizabeth Gracen's lighthearted touch to lighten up this doleful stinker. I can't go on! Just say it's stupid, illogical, depressing. All the Highlander magic is gone, the ending is confusing. Something about Duncan being the one, but not the last Immortal, and having a baby! I can't figure out where they're going with this; does accessing the Source always create a new race of Immortals? Martin, maybe you can explain the plot, 'cause I got lost. But anyway, folks, it's so bad it'll make you laugh. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To paraphrase the Biblical quote, I wept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. -- Original message -- From: maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] O-M-G! I stepped into this a few minutes late and already it is horrendous. They've transported Highlander into a video game and a bad game at that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure you can find this movie--or versions of it, like the Russian one I mentioned--on the Net. And it'll probably show up on DVD soon... -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAMMIT!!! I hate Comcast! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a trailer from this flick several months ago, I think from a Russian release. Believe I dropped the link to the group, in fact. The creators say that any version other than the one being aired this Saturday is not officially approved, however. Not sure how I feel about this. I don't usually like when beings of mysticism like the immortals discover the source of their powers: it tends to ruin the mystery. But more, the Highlander movies have all sucked (all but the first), especially when compared to the TV series. I'm a little nervous about the quality of this upcoming trilogy. But of course I'll be there Saturday night About Highlander on SciFi Channel: http://www.scifi.com/highlander5/ Official Highlander site: http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html Celebrating 20 years of The Legend, Davis-Panzer Productions, Sequence Films and Grosvenor Park are proud to announce the upcoming 2007 release of HIGHLANDER: The Source. Brett Leonard is the director with Adrian Paul playing the immortal Scottish swordsman, Duncan MacLeod. This new adventure, starring
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Oh, how I suffered. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys have *got* to see this Highlander debacle just to laugh/cry at how bad it is! The bad guy--some crap about a Guardian who protects the secrect of the Source--looks like Thomas Hayden Church in his Spidey-3 pumped up bod, with white makeup applied. He moves at superspeed thanks to his connection to that Source.What that means is the fights scenes--one of the best aspects of the series--look like crap! Literally looks like music video work, with starts and stops, an infinite number of camera angle changes. Ugghh! The story: There's this incredibly ridiculous junk about the Source of all Immortals being on Earth (or at least accessible from a physical point on Earth). There's some stuff about another Grand Alignment with all the planets in the Solar System pointing the way to the Source. or something. Honestly, I can't remember the point. I think during certain times the Source can be accessed physically, and the Grand Alignment points the way. I think. At any rate, in the first five minutes, one of the Immortals says that the stars in the entire *galaxy* are lining up along a line to Earth! Aside from the utter impossibility of that--and the curious lack of news coverage--how the hell would you know? It'd take like 30,000 years to reach us from the center of the Milky Way, so that alignment would have *already* happened! But the scientific screw up is least of the problems here. The plot makes no sense, McLeod basically just drifts, brooding, through the film, with none of Adrian Paul' s strengths in evidence. Methos--my favorite character after McLeod--is truer to his amoral self, but he's not used all that much. There are caricatures in the form of a younger acting Immortal and a religious fanatic priest Immortal, but they're useless. And Amanda's missing. No Amanda?? I could have at least used Elizabeth Gracen's lighthearted touch to lighten up this doleful stinker. I can't go on! Just say it's stupid, illogical, depressing. All the Highlander magic is gone, the ending is confusing. Something about Duncan being the one, but not the last Immortal, and having a baby! I can't figure out where they're going with this; does accessing the Source always create a new race of Immortals? Martin, maybe you can explain the plot, 'cause I got lost. But anyway, folks, it's so bad it'll make you laugh. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To paraphrase the Biblical quote, I wept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. -- Original message -- From: maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] O-M-G! I stepped into this a few minutes late and already it is horrendous. They've transported Highlander into a video game and a bad game at that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure you can find this movie--or versions of it, like the Russian one I mentioned--on the Net. And it'll probably show up on DVD soon... -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAMMIT!!! I hate Comcast! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a trailer from this flick several months ago, I think from a Russian release. Believe I dropped the link to the group, in fact. The creators say that any version other than the one being aired this Saturday is not officially approved, however. Not sure how I feel about this. I don't usually like when beings of mysticism like the immortals discover the source of their powers: it tends to ruin the mystery. But more, the Highlander movies have all sucked (all but the first), especially when compared to the TV series. I'm a little nervous about the quality of this upcoming trilogy. But of course I'll be there Saturday night About Highlander on SciFi Channel: http://www.scifi.com/highlander5/ Official Highlander site: http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html Celebrating 20 years of The Legend, Davis-Panzer Productions, Sequence Films and Grosvenor Park are proud to announce the upcoming 2007 release of HIGHLANDER: The Source.
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did you watch the whole thing? Please explain the plot to me if so. Some major questions (Spoilers, but it really doesn't matter): 1) Exactly what *is* the Source and where was it? Was it accessed via a portal to another dimension, or does it physically reside on Earth? 2) What the hell did the Cosmos aligning have to do with it? 3 Why did the Source call to the human lady if the Guardian was meant to kill all who approach it? 4) Since McLeod refused to kill, what the hell did the Source do for him besides allowing him to father children? 5) Why the hell kill Joe Dawson?? At least Methos lived 6) How shallow is that human lady, rejecting McLeod because he can't have kids? So it's okay that'll he'll be young and vital when she's old and grey, and that his life involves beheading people--but can't hang with a sterile man?? -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, how I suffered. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys have *got* to see this Highlander debacle just to laugh/cry at how bad it is! The bad guy--some crap about a Guardian who protects the secrect of the Source--looks like Thomas Hayden Church in his Spidey-3 pumped up bod, with white makeup applied. He moves at superspeed thanks to his connection to that Source.What that means is the fights scenes--one of the best aspects of the series--look like crap! Literally looks like music video work, with starts and stops, an infinite number of camera angle changes. Ugghh! The story: There's this incredibly ridiculous junk about the Source of all Immortals being on Earth (or at least accessible from a physical point on Earth). There's some stuff about another Grand Alignment with all the planets in the Solar System pointing the way to the Source. or something. Honestly, I can't remember the point. I think during certain times the Source can be accessed physically, and the Grand Alignment points the way. I think. At any rate, in the first five minutes, one of the Immortals says that the stars in the entire *galaxy* are lining up along a line to Earth! Aside from the utter impossibility of that--and the curious lack of news coverage--how the hell would you know? It'd take like 30,000 years to reach us from the center of the Milky Way, so that alignment would have *already* happened! But the scientific screw up is least of the problems here. The plot makes no sense, McLeod basically just drifts, brooding, through the film, with none of Adrian Paul' s strengths in evidence. Methos--my favorite character after McLeod--is truer to his amoral self, but he's not used all that much. There are caricatures in the form of a younger acting Immortal and a religious fanatic priest Immortal, but they're useless. And Amanda's missing. No Amanda?? I could have at least used Elizabeth Gracen's lighthearted touch to lighten up this doleful stinker. I can't go on! Just say it's stupid, illogical, depressing. All the Highlander magic is gone, the ending is confusing. Something about Duncan being the one, but not the last Immortal, and having a baby! I can't figure out where they're going with this; does accessing the Source always create a new race of Immortals? Martin, maybe you can explain the plot, 'cause I got lost. But anyway, folks, it's so bad it'll make you laugh. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To paraphrase the Biblical quote, I wept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. -- Original message -- From: maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] O-M-G! I stepped into this a few minutes late and already it is horrendous. They've transported Highlander into a video game and a bad game at that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure you can find this movie--or versions of it, like the Russian one I mentioned--on the Net. And it'll probably show up on DVD soon... -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAMMIT!!! I hate Comcast! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a trailer from this flick several months ago, I think from a Russian release. Believe I dropped the link to the group, in fact. The creators say that any version
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The whole thing. I'm thinking, to my eternal chagrin, that the Source is analogous to something used in a series of movies by a guy named Lucas. (No vomiting smilies when you need them, dangit...) The alignment thing? Probably just to swipe a few million for the FX budget. Plot-wise, maybe to represent a singular cosmic event with grand ramifications. I have no idea why it would call to Anna. If an ending had come about that would've fulfilled the initial premise of the entire movie (made very early on, while the Asian Immortal was breaking into the place at the movie's beginning), that the uncovering of the Source would lead to a new renaissance on Earth, with Anna's humanity as a catalyst for that change, then it would've made sense. As they left it, it came out as just an excuse for Duncan to grant her fond wish and knock her up (the reason they split, f memorry serves- she wanted kids and was okay with his Immortality until she learned that making babies was out for him). Maybe, by his choosing not to kill, he gave the Source reason to believe that mankind was deserving of hope? Why kill Joe? Because they're evil bastiches over at Skiffy, that's why. (I did tear up during his death scene, I admit. And I was hoping that he'd become Immortal too.) As for Anna dumping Mac just because he can't hav ekids? That's closer to real life than you might believe. I can't have kids, and a woman dumped me for jsut that reason (though she never admitted it). But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Martin (*had* to end this meeting on a high note, apologies to Cloris Leachman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you watch the whole thing? Please explain the plot to me if so. Some major questions (Spoilers, but it really doesn't matter): 1) Exactly what *is* the Source and where was it? Was it accessed via a portal to another dimension, or does it physically reside on Earth? 2) What the hell did the Cosmos aligning have to do with it? 3 Why did the Source call to the human lady if the Guardian was meant to kill all who approach it? 4) Since McLeod refused to kill, what the hell did the Source do for him besides allowing him to father children? 5) Why the hell kill Joe Dawson?? At least Methos lived 6) How shallow is that human lady, rejecting McLeod because he can't have kids? So it's okay that'll he'll be young and vital when she's old and grey, and that his life involves beheading people--but can't hang with a sterile man?? -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, how I suffered. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys have *got* to see this Highlander debacle just to laugh/cry at how bad it is! The bad guy--some crap about a Guardian who protects the secrect of the Source--looks like Thomas Hayden Church in his Spidey-3 pumped up bod, with white makeup applied. He moves at superspeed thanks to his connection to that Source.What that means is the fights scenes--one of the best aspects of the series--look like crap! Literally looks like music video work, with starts and stops, an infinite number of camera angle changes. Ugghh! The story: There's this incredibly ridiculous junk about the Source of all Immortals being on Earth (or at least accessible from a physical point on Earth). There's some stuff about another Grand Alignment with all the planets in the Solar System pointing the way to the Source. or something. Honestly, I can't remember the point. I think during certain times the Source can be accessed physically, and the Grand Alignment points the way. I think. At any rate, in the first five minutes, one of the Immortals says that the stars in the entire *galaxy* are lining up along a line to Earth! Aside from the utter impossibility of that--and the curious lack of news coverage--how the hell would you know? It'd take like 30,000 years to reach us from the center of the Milky Way, so that alignment would have *already* happened! But the scientific screw up is least of the problems here. The plot makes no sense, McLeod basically just drifts, brooding, through the film, with none of Adrian Paul' s strengths in evidence. Methos--my favorite character after McLeod--is truer to his amoral self, but he's not used all that much. There are caricatures in the form of a younger acting Immortal and a religious fanatic priest Immortal, but they're useless. And Amanda's missing. No Amanda?? I could have at least used Elizabeth Gracen's lighthearted touch to lighten up this doleful stinker. I can't go on! Just say it's stupid, illogical, depressing. All the Highlander magic is gone, the ending is confusing. Something about Duncan being the one, but not the last Immortal, and having a baby! I can't figure out where they're going with this; does
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Since they keep doing this type of crap I can only assume that somebody is watch nd somebody is buying and renting. I would love to talk tothose of you who do what to find how wht about these movies is so appealing. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: Let me know when SciFi makes it up to killer rabbits. We've had alligators, snakes, and every water critter known to man. I guess that they've made it to land now. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But enough of beating a horse that was brought in dead. Let's butcher some fresh meat. Grizzly Rage is p tonight. Will it be bear-ly watchable? Will you grin and bear watching it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I was a big fan back in the day. but I don't remember Adrian Brody being in the cast. What part did he play? maidmarian_thepoet wrote: I actually like the series especially after they brought in the Watchers and Adrien Brody. But this was merely silly. Special effects instead of plot. I left after 30 minutes. I didn't even slip back in to see how they ended it. I had a DVD of Hustle, Thank G-d. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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you beat me to it!! :) It is really, really bad. The only Highlander movie that was good was the first one with Conner McLeod. The others all sucked and this is no exception. One thing I loved about the series was the fight scenes, which were usually pretty good. This one has a non-stop camera that makes me dizzy and doesn't show any good fight details. And I'm not just talking about when that idiot Guardian uses his super-speed. The movie's using all the horrible FX used in modern music videos. The plot's beyond stupid, the acting's stilted, and they killed Joe Dawson. (Don't worry about this spoiler folks, the movie's too crappy for you to care). I am trully appalled at how bad this is. It's as bad as I feared, unfortunately. -- Original message -- From: maidmarian_thepoet [EMAIL PROTECTED] O-M-G! I stepped into this a few minutes late and already it is horrendous. They've transported Highlander into a video game and a bad game at that. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure you can find this movie--or versions of it, like the Russian one I mentioned--on the Net. And it'll probably show up on DVD soon... -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAMMIT!!! I hate Comcast! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a trailer from this flick several months ago, I think from a Russian release. Believe I dropped the link to the group, in fact. The creators say that any version other than the one being aired this Saturday is not officially approved, however. Not sure how I feel about this. I don't usually like when beings of mysticism like the immortals discover the source of their powers: it tends to ruin the mystery. But more, the Highlander movies have all sucked (all but the first), especially when compared to the TV series. I'm a little nervous about the quality of this upcoming trilogy. But of course I'll be there Saturday night About Highlander on SciFi Channel: http://www.scifi.com/highlander5/ Official Highlander site: http://www.highlander-thesource.com/news-updates.html Celebrating 20 years of The Legend, Davis-Panzer Productions, Sequence Films and Grosvenor Park are proud to announce the upcoming 2007 release of HIGHLANDER: The Source. Brett Leonard is the director with Adrian Paul playing the immortal Scottish swordsman, Duncan MacLeod. This new adventure, starring Adrian Paul is the first feature in the Trilogy. The Source tells the story of Immortals as they quest to locate the Holy Grail of their world. The entire series of films will chronicle the origins of the Immortals. Director Brett Leonard commented This is a tremendous opportunity for a storyteller of this genre to take part in the mythology of 20 years. He continues that HIGHLANDER is an amazing ongoing story that I can bring my visual style to... Everything I have done has led me to this kind of mythical fantasy. Brett Leonard pioneered the creation of digital visual effects in filmmaking with 1992's Lawnmower Man, he also directed 1995's Virtuosity, and most recently completed Marvel's Man-Thing. He is heralded as a maverick in science fiction, fantasy and adventure by creating films with a strong visual presence. Peter Davis of Davis-Panzer Productions noted, We are truly celebrating this milestone in HIGHLANDER history by pairing Brett and Adrian in our newest Trilogy. We anticipate that this combination will recapture the filming glory of the original HIGHLANDER. Davis-Panzer Productions is busy further immortalizing the Clan MacLeod during the series' twentieth year with an anime feature film in partnership with Imagi and Madhouse of Japan and a video game with SCI Games Ltd. of London. There is no limit when your story is timeless and Immortal! HIGHLANDER: The Source will be distributed in North America through Lions Gate Films and in 40 foreign territories through the top independent distributors. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Let's just saying you know more than you think, but we're not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
