Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hi Jeroen, I actually played around with the Maps 3.x and found it was going through major refactoring. And since NYCpedia is heavily dependent on polygons and there was already a pending auto-centering patch which we sorely needed, we decided to go with 2.x for now. We realize this will complicate moving to 3.x, but when we saw the thread that 3.x devt has slowed down a bit and might be for the near future, we decided to bite the bullet coz of deadlines on our end. That's why I added that maybe the community can get together, and help fund/advance Maps 3.x. The polygon labeling and hover features should prove to be compelling new additions to Maps 3.x and we want to ultimately contribute it back. Thanks, Joel Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey Joel, > >> We're actually getting some work done on Maps v2.x right now which we hope >> to "forwardport" to v3. Mostly polygon related stuff - smart labeling, >> hover, additional layers, autocenter, etc. > > I find it somewhat odd you are adding to this obsolete branch (at least from > a dev perspective), and recommend against it. You'll just going to get > yourself into tricky porting work for 3.x. > > Cheers > > -- > Jeroen De Dauw > http://www.bn2vs.com > Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 > -- -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hey Joel, We're actually getting some work done on Maps v2.x right now which we hope > to "forwardport" to v3. Mostly polygon related stuff - smart labeling, > hover, additional layers, autocenter, etc. > I find it somewhat odd you are adding to this obsolete branch (at least from a dev perspective), and recommend against it. You'll just going to get yourself into tricky porting work for 3.x. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hi All, We're actually getting some work done on Maps v2.x right now which we hope to "forwardport" to v3. Mostly polygon related stuff - smart labeling, hover, additional layers, autocenter, etc. During SMWCon, one attendee made a strong case for SMW being a great GIS CMS/KMS. Maybe we can round-up people to sponsor extended Maps/Semantic Maps to make this a reality. Especially now that MySQL 5.6, MariaDB 5.5 and MongoDB 2.4 have geospatial capabilities that should allow a lot of very interesting ask queries if the SMW geographic coordinate type took advantage of these technologies. http://www.slideshare.net/henrikingo/spatial-functions-in-mysql-56-mariadb-55-postgis-20-and-others FYI, we actually contributed some patches to ExternalData to return MongoDB GeoJSON polygons in a format that can be used with Maps (see nycpedia.com), but it still feels like a hack and we'd love to do ask queries like, what's inside, next, within, intersects, disjoint, crosses, contains polygon/POI which are now possible in MySQL 5.6, MariaDB 5.5 and MongoDB 2.4. Perhaps some additional SMW geospatial types beyond geographic coordinate? A place type defined by a polygon? Maybe this could be the integration point to start going towards a shared featureset with WikiData? We even looked at Extension:GeoData which now stores coordinates and powers Mediawiki Nearby Places, but its still storing latlongs as MySQL float fields. Best, Joel === Think Different! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_different#Text) Imagine Different! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tOgRD4EqY) On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey Bernhard, > > I could work on Maps in my free time but am not doing so as there are > other more interesting projects at hand. You can of course hire me to work > on it, as is true for any MediaWiki or PHP work. Since I'd like to see my > first extension to continue being developed, I also consider doing this > substantially below my usual rate (depending on the exact things that need > to be done). > > Of course you can hire other developers to work on it. I'd love to see > good work happen without my involvement. Unfortunately the code quality of > the extension is not the best, neither is the overall design, and it is > lacking tests for the most part. Plus it is hopelessly intermingled with > MediaWiki all over, while most of it could be independent from MW. I'm > hoping this can improve so it becomes a well crafted, clean and throughly > tested piece of software that can be worked on without having much > knowledge of MediaWiki. If you hire someone to work on it, please make sure > they don't go in the other direction. > > > Cheers > > -- > Jeroen De Dauw > http://www.bn2vs.com > Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 > -- > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hey Bernhard, I could work on Maps in my free time but am not doing so as there are other more interesting projects at hand. You can of course hire me to work on it, as is true for any MediaWiki or PHP work. Since I'd like to see my first extension to continue being developed, I also consider doing this substantially below my usual rate (depending on the exact things that need to be done). Of course you can hire other developers to work on it. I'd love to see good work happen without my involvement. Unfortunately the code quality of the extension is not the best, neither is the overall design, and it is lacking tests for the most part. Plus it is hopelessly intermingled with MediaWiki all over, while most of it could be independent from MW. I'm hoping this can improve so it becomes a well crafted, clean and throughly tested piece of software that can be worked on without having much knowledge of MediaWiki. If you hire someone to work on it, please make sure they don't go in the other direction. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hi Jeroen, > Indeed. I am not currently working on it, or planning to do so, in my > free time. This doesn't sound good. Do you mean it would be possible for you to put effort in, if it is funded? Or that you don't have time at all? Are there other developers around that could take over/help out with maintenance? regards, Bernhard -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hey, It was pretty > easy, we needed just to inherit some classes and write a bit of > javascript spaghetti. > It is actually preferred to not do the spaghetti part, even though this might appear to be the standard in the Maps JS at the moment :) Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hey Bernhard, > it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed down a bit recently? Indeed. I am not currently working on it, or planning to do so, in my free time. > Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service? Nothing really up to date. Your best bet is looking at the code on git master for a particular mapping service (they are each in their own directory) and doing something similar for the one you want to implement. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
We've once integrated Yandex maps to Extension:Maps. It was pretty easy, we needed just to inherit some classes and write a bit of javascript spaghetti. The code itself if very easy to read, IMO - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Krabina Bernhard wrote: > I found come more documentation (again in German): > http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/schnittstellen.html > > -Bernhard > > - Ursprüngliche Mail - >> Hi Jeroen, >> >> it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed >> down a bit recently? >> >> In my work for a first SMW installation in the City of Vienna I was >> asked whether (and how) it would be possible to use the Vienna >> mapping services instead of openlayer, google or yahoo. So we want >> to display data using maps/semantic maps on the Vienna city map. >> >> Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service? >> >> There is some documentation on how to use the Viennese GIS API: >> http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/generierter-code.html >> http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/javascript.html >> >> How good is your German yet? ;-) >> Unfortunately, the English docs is quite basic: >> http://www.wien.gv.at/english/help/citymap.html >> >> regards, >> Bernhard >> >> -- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> ___ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
I found come more documentation (again in German): http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/schnittstellen.html -Bernhard - Ursprüngliche Mail - > Hi Jeroen, > > it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed > down a bit recently? > > In my work for a first SMW installation in the City of Vienna I was > asked whether (and how) it would be possible to use the Vienna > mapping services instead of openlayer, google or yahoo. So we want > to display data using maps/semantic maps on the Vienna city map. > > Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service? > > There is some documentation on how to use the Viennese GIS API: > http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/generierter-code.html > http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/javascript.html > > How good is your German yet? ;-) > Unfortunately, the English docs is quite basic: > http://www.wien.gv.at/english/help/citymap.html > > regards, > Bernhard > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services
Hi Jeroen, it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed down a bit recently? In my work for a first SMW installation in the City of Vienna I was asked whether (and how) it would be possible to use the Vienna mapping services instead of openlayer, google or yahoo. So we want to display data using maps/semantic maps on the Vienna city map. Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service? There is some documentation on how to use the Viennese GIS API: http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/generierter-code.html http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/javascript.html How good is your German yet? ;-) Unfortunately, the English docs is quite basic: http://www.wien.gv.at/english/help/citymap.html regards, Bernhard -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
