Re: SD> 1986 GLHS
I am pretty sure all of the 85-86 cars had EGR's on them... Most of the 87 Turbo II cars did not, unless they were California cars. Look on the back drivers side of the engine/turbo area and you should see a little flying saucer shaped object. It should have two vacuum hoses coming off of it. That is the EGR valve. My guess is that it is probably the solenoid and not the valve itself. John M. Fleck wrote: The EGR valve would be unique for any 1986 Chrysler products. It was used more extensively in 1987. The application would be for vehicles with the Turbo II engine (or induction anyway) for California. Try looking up the EGR valve for an '87 Daytona Shelby Z with the "A" engine code in California and see if you can find one. John M. Fleck DCX Engineer/Quality Supervisor - Indiana Transmission Plant Kokomo, IN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Weifenbach Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:27 AM To: shelby-dodge@imagicomm.com Subject: SD> 1986 GLHS My 1986 Shelby GLHS was parked for about 12 years. I'm getting things going again, but have run into problems passing the California smog test. The shop says it needs a new EGR valve/sensor. I have been unable to find anything to replace the one in the car. It seems to be a unique part to this car. Has anyone solved this problem. Thenks for your help Dennis Weifenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING-- -- Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> +20's in GLHS - What else is needed?
the reason mine ran better, 28 MPG around town was the porting. When you port a head and the manifolds, then add 3" exhaust you drastically change how much air is going through. Without +20s my car really ran rough even on a stock injector cal. The stage 5 FWD cal can have more fuel too with the same injector. The MP cal has less fuel for a hotter running engine, so a custom cal with +20s is going to just use more of the injector. A GLHS is an easy car to make fast, starting in the mid 14s stock 13s are real easy. Anything faster than 12s and the money starts getting dumped on them. The difference between the 11s and the 12s is amazing money wise. Since +20s work with a stock cal and porting, I am going to try +40s on a +20 cal made for a near stock engine after I bolt on the bad 655 head =) Rob Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:26:13 -0400 From: "Bigness, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: SD> +20's in GLHS - What else is needed? Pretty much the same way I've got mine set up, except I run a mopar stage II computer with a zener diode installed, which by luck idles fine with the +20% injectors. Here are my mods: Mopar Stage II computer w/zener diode +20% injectors Full 3" exhaust (turbo back) NO catalytic converter 16-18 psi boost A568 transmission from R/T Car ran 13.7 @ 106 mph with 9 lights on the cyberdyne guage. Any more boost and you melt pistons, which I have painfully proved on my own. 18 psi is pretty much the uppper limit of the stock turbo, as any more boost will be generating too much heat. Good Luck, Bill Bigness Syracuse, NY 87 GLHS #319 ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Fwd: Re: SD> 1986 GLHS
Al Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:15:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Al Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: SD> 1986 GLHS To: Mike Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If we are talking about a T-1 engine, ALL to my knowledge had an egr from 1984 through 1987. I have seen these on cars from different states, so that would eliminate any regional requirements. Al Curtis Mike Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am pretty sure all of the 85-86 cars had EGR's on them... Most of the 87 Turbo II cars did not, unless they were California cars. Look on the back drivers side of the engine/turbo area and you should see a little flying saucer shaped object. It should have two vacuum hoses coming off of it. That is the EGR valve. My guess is that it is probably the solenoid and not the valve itself. John M. Fleck wrote: > The EGR valve would be unique for any 1986 Chrysler products. It was used > more extensively in 1987. The application would be for vehicles with the > Turbo II engine (or induction anyway) for California. Try looking up the EGR > valve for an '87 Daytona Shelby Z with the "A" engine code in California and > see if you can find one. > > John M. Fleck > DCX Engineer/Quality Supervisor - Indiana Transmission Plant > Kokomo, IN > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Weifenbach > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:27 AM > To: shelby-dodge@imagicomm.com > Subject: SD> 1986 GLHS > > My 1986 Shelby GLHS was parked for about 12 years. I'm getting things going > again, but have run into problems passing the California smog test. > > The shop says it needs a new EGR valve/sensor. I have been unable to find > anything to replace the one in the car. > It seems to be a unique part to this car. Has anyone solved this problem. > > Thenks for your help > > Dennis Weifenbach > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING-- > -- > Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ > > To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html > > ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING > Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ > > To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: Fwd: Re: SD> 1986 GLHS
The 86 and 87 GLH-S had a T2 top end and I believe they all had EGR valves. In 87 the T2 in the Daytona and CSX (same top end) only had EGR's for cars sold in Caifornia. On the 87 T2 Daytona's I have here in Portland, none had the EGR ports machined for use. The 2-piece intake that came off a GLH-S that I put on my Sundance has a block off plate installed for the EGR. Now, the only thing I'm not sure about is whether the EGR valve is the same between the early T1 and the T2, they look similar but I've not compared them myself. BTW, on the early T1 the EGR's were mounted on the turbos. On the T2 the EGR's were mounted on the bottom of the intake manifold elbow behind the throttle body (technically the same basic spot as the T1 if you're looking at the intake path, but I digress) HTH Stefan Mullikin Portland, OR PNW-SDAC Founding Member 1979 Porsche 924 (Carrera GTS Replica and GRM $2007 Challenger) 1980 Fiat X-1/9 (never ending 2.2 turbo swap) 1987 Plymouth Sundance Turbo (Daily Driver) 1987 Shelby CSX #106 -- Original message -- From: Al Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Al Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:15:39 -0700 > (PDT) > From: Al Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: SD> 1986 GLHS > To: Mike Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If we are talking about a T-1 engine, ALL to my knowledge had an egr from > 1984 > through 1987. I have seen these on cars from different states, so that would > eliminate any regional requirements. > > Al Curtis > > Mike Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am pretty sure all of the 85-86 cars had EGR's on them... Most of the > 87 Turbo II cars did not, unless they were California cars. Look on the > back drivers side of the engine/turbo area and you should see a little > flying saucer shaped object. It should have two vacuum hoses coming off > of it. That is the EGR valve. My guess is that it is probably the > solenoid and not the valve itself. > > John M. Fleck wrote: > > The EGR valve would be unique for any 1986 Chrysler products. It was used > > more extensively in 1987. The application would be for vehicles with the > > Turbo II engine (or induction anyway) for California. Try looking up the EGR > > valve for an '87 Daytona Shelby Z with the "A" engine code in California and > > see if you can find one. > > > > John M. Fleck > > DCX Engineer/Quality Supervisor - Indiana Transmission Plant > > Kokomo, IN > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Weifenbach > > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:27 AM > > To: shelby-dodge@imagicomm.com > > Subject: SD> 1986 GLHS > > > > My 1986 Shelby GLHS was parked for about 12 years. I'm getting things going > > again, but have run into problems passing the California smog test. > > > > The shop says it needs a new EGR valve/sensor. I have been unable to find > > anything to replace the one in the car. > > It seems to be a unique part to this car. Has anyone solved this problem. > > > > Thenks for your help > > > > Dennis Weifenbach > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: Fwd: Re: SD> 1986 GLHS
EGR on Shelby GLHS cars were Cali only. clay -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:42:48 + >The 86 and 87 GLH-S had a T2 top end and I believe they all had EGR valves. >In 87 the T2 in the Daytona and CSX (same top end) only had EGR's for cars >sold in Caifornia. On the 87 T2 Daytona's I have here in Portland, none had >the EGR ports machined for use. The 2-piece intake that came off a GLH-S that >I put on my Sundance has a block off plate installed for the EGR. > Sent via the Joink WebMail system at abcs.com ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
RE: SD> +20's in GLHS - What else is needed?
That is pretty much the same conclusion I have reached in my years of experience modifying the GLHS; low 13's or high 12's is cheap and easy with bolt on mod's. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ~RoB~ Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:54 AM To: shelby-dodge@imagicomm.com Subject: Re: SD> +20's in GLHS - What else is needed? the reason mine ran better, 28 MPG around town was the porting. When you port a head and the manifolds, then add 3" exhaust you drastically change how much air is going through. Without +20s my car really ran rough even on a stock injector cal. The stage 5 FWD cal can have more fuel too with the same injector. The MP cal has less fuel for a hotter running engine, so a custom cal with +20s is going to just use more of the injector. A GLHS is an easy car to make fast, starting in the mid 14s stock 13s are real easy. Anything faster than 12s and the money starts getting dumped on them. The difference between the 11s and the 12s is amazing money wise. Since +20s work with a stock cal and porting, I am going to try +40s on a +20 cal made for a near stock engine after I bolt on the bad 655 head =) Rob > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:26:13 -0400 > From: "Bigness, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: SD> +20's in GLHS - What else is needed? > > Pretty much the same way I've got mine set up, except I run a mopar > stage II computer with a zener diode installed, which by luck idles fine > with the +20% injectors. Here are my mods: > > Mopar Stage II computer w/zener diode > +20% injectors > Full 3" exhaust (turbo back) > NO catalytic converter > 16-18 psi boost > A568 transmission from R/T > > Car ran 13.7 @ 106 mph with 9 lights on the cyberdyne guage. Any more > boost and you melt pistons, which I have painfully proved on my own. 18 > psi is pretty much the uppper limit of the stock turbo, as any more > boost will be generating too much heat. > > Good Luck, > Bill Bigness > Syracuse, NY > 87 GLHS #319 ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING-- -- Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html This e-mail is the property of NaviSite, Inc. It is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. Distribution or copying of this e-mail, or the information contained herein, to anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
