SD> Code 13, why???
Strange problem here... My Daytona is popping up an error 13. Map sensor problem. Seems to be BARO related, as I put a meter on the baro solenoid, and it never dips. Seems like the problem happens right when the computer would be checking the baro. Start it up, run for a minute, maybe less, and then the computer triggers the error and the light comes on. I know I should get a code 37 not a 13 with a baro problem, but the map sensor is reading just fine. I can backprobe the pins on the SMEC connector. The map sensor voltage is exactly what it should be. And the baro voltage never drops like it should when the computer checks, not even when first turning on the key. Suggestions? Or just tell me like it is.. It's a smoked transistor on the SMEC and that SMEC is dead unless I can miraculously figure out which one it is. -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '85 Shelby Charger (resto project 25% done) '88 Chrysler Lebarron Convertible (J body) '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> Code 13, why???
Solved it, stupid mistake. Future note.. When you plumb the wastegate directly into the manifold without a restrictor, find another line besides the one that goes to the MAP.. The wastegate can was dampening the signal enough that the computer was having issues with it. I just had to do some more troubleshooting. :) On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:17:05 -0800, Brian Schulteis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Strange problem here... My Daytona is popping up an error 13. Map > sensor problem. Seems to be BARO related, as I put a meter on the baro > solenoid, and it never dips. Seems like the problem happens right when > the computer would be checking the baro. Start it up, run for a > minute, maybe less, and then the computer triggers the error and the > light comes on. I know I should get a code 37 not a 13 with a baro > problem, but the map sensor is reading just fine. I can backprobe the > pins on the SMEC connector. The map sensor voltage is exactly what it > should be. And the baro voltage never drops like it should when the > computer checks, not even when first turning on the key. > Suggestions? Or just tell me like it is.. It's a smoked transistor on > the SMEC and that SMEC is dead unless I can miraculously figure out > which one it is. > > -- > Brian J. Schulteis > Bremerton, Washington > '85 Shelby Charger (resto project 25% done) > '88 Chrysler Lebarron Convertible (J body) > '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) > > ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING > Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ > > To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html > -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '85 Shelby Charger (resto project 25% done) '88 Chrysler Lebarron Convertible (J body) '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> Code 13, why???
Check for vac hose leaks? Also ground wires? --- Brian Schulteis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Strange problem here... My Daytona is popping up an > error 13. Map > sensor problem. Seems to be BARO related, as I put a > meter on the baro > solenoid, and it never dips. Seems like the problem > happens right when > the computer would be checking the baro. Start it > up, run for a > minute, maybe less, and then the computer triggers > the error and the > light comes on. I know I should get a code 37 not a > 13 with a baro > problem, but the map sensor is reading just fine. I > can backprobe the > pins on the SMEC connector. The map sensor voltage > is exactly what it > should be. And the baro voltage never drops like it > should when the > computer checks, not even when first turning on the > key. > Suggestions? Or just tell me like it is.. It's a > smoked transistor on > the SMEC and that SMEC is dead unless I can > miraculously figure out > which one it is. > > -- > Brian J. Schulteis > Bremerton, Washington > '85 Shelby Charger (resto project 25% done) > '88 Chrysler Lebarron Convertible (J body) > '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) > > ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING > Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ > > To be removed, visit > http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
RE: SD> Code 13, why???
OMG THIS IS EXACTLY MY PROBLEM TO THE TEE! Voltage for MAP tests normal with key on and engine off. Voltage at idle tests normal. Voltage at 15" of vacuumm from a hand pump is normal too 1.1-1.2 Baro solenoid voltage is constant! I just bought a new Baro solenoid this weekend, I will try to put it on tomorrow. -J Southern California Forced Induction 1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo II 1986 Chrysler Laser XE Turbo 1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo 1991 Mitsu Eclispe GSX Turbo(for $ale) 1990 VW Corrado G60 Supercharged (for $ale) 1984 Nissan 200SX Turbo 1985 Nissan 200SX Turbo 1983 Datsun 280ZX Turbo 1994 Ford Thunderbird LX 4.6L V8 (don't hate me) -Original Message- Brian Schulteis Strange problem here... My Daytona is popping up an error 13. Map sensor problem. Seems to be BARO related, as I put a meter on the baro solenoid, and it never dips. Seems like the problem happens right when the computer would be checking the baro. Start it up, run for a minute, maybe less, and then the computer triggers the error and the light comes on. I know I should get a code 37 not a 13 with a baro problem, but the map sensor is reading just fine. I can backprobe the pins on the SMEC connector. The map sensor voltage is exactly what it should be. And the baro voltage never drops like it should when the computer checks, not even when first turning on the key. Suggestions? Or just tell me like it is.. It's a smoked transistor on the SMEC and that SMEC is dead unless I can miraculously figure out which one it is. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
RE: SD> Code 13, why???
I don't think that will work for me, I have the MAP sensor on a T with the FPR...?? OK the four-way is vac-tight, we've checked it with the hand pump, so What should be on the 4-way? I know one has to go to the Baro, one to the FPR, one to the ...?? Maybe mine is hooked up wrong too??? I hate this I really want to drive this thing!!! -J Southern California Forced Induction 1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo II 1986 Chrysler Laser XE Turbo 1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo 1991 Mitsu Eclispe GSX Turbo(for $ale) 1990 VW Corrado G60 Supercharged (for $ale) 1984 Nissan 200SX Turbo 1985 Nissan 200SX Turbo 1983 Datsun 280ZX Turbo 1994 Ford Thunderbird LX 4.6L V8 (don't hate me) -Original Message- Solved it, stupid mistake. Future note.. When you plumb the wastegate directly into the manifold without a restrictor, find another line besides the one that goes to the MAP.. The wastegate can was dampening the signal enough that the computer was having issues with it. I just had to do some more troubleshooting. :) ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
RE: SD> Code 13, why???
OK, NEW Baro solenoid, checked all MAP voltages including with a hand vac pump at 15" of vac, have a single hose straight from fourway to baro, STILL throwing code 13! HELP!!! :( Tomorrow is the meet down here. This damned POS is gonna keep me from going :( -J Southern California Forced Induction 1989 Dodge Daytona Shelby Turbo II (my car hates me) 1986 Chrysler Laser XE Turbo 1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo 1991 Mitsu Eclispe GSX Turbo(for $ale) 1990 VW Corrado G60 Supercharged (for $ale) 1984 Nissan 200SX Turbo 1985 Nissan 200SX Turbo 1983 Datsun 280ZX Turbo 1994 Ford Thunderbird LX 4.6L V8 (don't hate me) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Arroyo Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:36 AM To: Brian Schulteis; sdml Subject: RE: SD> Code 13, why??? I don't think that will work for me, I have the MAP sensor on a T with the FPR...?? OK the four-way is vac-tight, we've checked it with the hand pump, so What should be on the 4-way? I know one has to go to the Baro, one to the FPR, one to the ...?? Maybe mine is hooked up wrong too??? I hate this I really want to drive this thing!!! ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> Code 13, why???
> OK, NEW Baro solenoid, checked all MAP voltages including > with a hand vac pump at 15" of vac, have a single hose straight > from fourway to baro, STILL throwing code 13! HELP!!! :( > Tomorrow is the meet down here. This damned POS is gonna > keep me from going :( A couple of things about all you've said so far. You did disconnect the battery to clear all the codes right? Also, when you checked for voltage at the baro-read / MAP solenoid, did you check to see that, with the engine idling, occasionally (every few seconds or so) that a ground is put there to operate the solenoid so it can read atmospheric pressure? I am fairly certain that voltage is present whenever the key is on, and that a ground is sent to operate the solenoid. Normally not operated it reads the intake manifold, when operated it reads the atmosphere. And, if the line from the 4 way to the solenoid is on the wrong port on the solenoid, that could cause the problem, as well as if the MAP line was on the wrong port. I am sure that the MAP line should be on the center port or barb, that way it can be switched between the top and bottom ports. An easy way to tell which port should go to the 4 way connector, is to blow through the center port. Whichever one it comes out of, that one goes to the 4 way. The other one should be left open to the air so atmospheric pressure can be read. On the older cars, the ports left open to the air had little foam filters on them. On the newer models, they have caps that are vented internally. If you have the kind with the caps, be sure the cap is not pressed on too far, as it will seal the port and block the atmospheric reading. Barry ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
