Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
This whole topic came up last fall and there were many that suggested SDAC either take over or play a major role in the running of the registry. Bill and I had an email conversation and discussed the pros & cons of the whole thing. Bill also posted to this list explaining what the current status was and what was needed to get it going. > If there's no connection, why do you support a guy that has > run the list so poorly? The main thing needed was money to hire professional programmers to assess the data on hand and the best way to get it implemented. And that was what he asked for then.So SDAC contributed towards the cost of the contractural effort needed to get it going. In short, he asked for help and we offered some (as did many other folks). > Is it simply because he was running the list first? This list has been an asset to the SD/TD community for many years, and many may find fault with the way this list is run by Bill. But as I have learned, you can't please everyone, and the critics will always make you out as not even trying to. I admit I am not pleased with the "progress" of the registry over the years, but rather than sitting back and throwing stones and finding fault, we decided to try to help him out. SDAC wanted to be part of the solution, not just another critic pointing out a problem. Being critical of someone else's efforts, whether deserved or not, is the easiest job in the world, anyone can be critical and point out faults. But being critical is NOT being an asset to the community. Pitching in and trying to help, that is what makes a difference. We put our money where our mouth is. > Maybe you can explain the reasoning behind keeping Bill in charge of > the almost defunct list. I'm all ears. You make it sound like someone has the right to take his site away from him. Well he owns that site and the reason he is in charge is because he is the owner. Very simple concept, really. Barry ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
It's true though, I've tried to add my 87 CSX to that list twice now within the last two years, and still waiting.. Sean - Original Message - From: "Brian Schulteis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry If there's no connection, why do you support a guy that has run the list so poorly? Is it simply because he was running the list first? What'd that previous post say, 4 years without his car being added to the list? That's unacceptable, it's too bad he had to wait till everyone was ready to lynch him and start a new list before he got off his arse and started updating his site. If it's even true that he's started to update the site, as actions speak louder than words. Maybe you can explain the reasoning behind keeping Bill in charge of the almost defunct list. I'm all ears. On 5/23/05, Barry Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appreciate the emotion you have for your opinion Alex, but there is at least one fact below that you have wrong. There is no connection between the management of SDAC and the Shelby Registry. In the past, SDAC has supported this mailing list and the Shelby Registry monetarily and probably will do so again in the future. Beyond that there is no connection between SDAC and the entities Bill Yohman oversees. Oh wait, yeah there is too, Bill is a member of SDAC. Barry Goodall President, Shelby Dodge Auto Club > I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry > falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that > every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he > now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. > Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. > > Alex... ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '83 Shelby Charger (Megasquirt MPFI) '87 Shelby GLHS #895 '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) '90 Plymouth Horizon (soon to be little sister's car) ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
In a message dated 5/23/2005 7:41:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: X-INFO: INVALID TO LINE I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. Since this is on topic for the list I`ll comment again. I`m sure it`s time consuming and the list may lack funds to operate completely but I would like to see current information available just to see how many cars are registered. Cheers Travis ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
If there's no connection, why do you support a guy that has run the list so poorly? Is it simply because he was running the list first? What'd that previous post say, 4 years without his car being added to the list? That's unacceptable, it's too bad he had to wait till everyone was ready to lynch him and start a new list before he got off his arse and started updating his site. If it's even true that he's started to update the site, as actions speak louder than words. Maybe you can explain the reasoning behind keeping Bill in charge of the almost defunct list. I'm all ears. On 5/23/05, Barry Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appreciate the emotion you have for your opinion Alex, but there is > at least one fact below that you have wrong. There is no connection > between the management of SDAC and the Shelby Registry. > > In the past, SDAC has supported this mailing list and the Shelby > Registry monetarily and probably will do so again in the future. > Beyond that there is no connection between SDAC and the entities Bill > Yohman oversees. Oh wait, yeah there is too, Bill is a member of > SDAC. > > Barry Goodall > President, Shelby Dodge Auto Club > > > > I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby > Registry > > falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst > thing that > > every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared > him he > > now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. > > Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's > all. > > > > Alex... > > ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING > Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ > > To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html > -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '83 Shelby Charger (Megasquirt MPFI) '87 Shelby GLHS #895 '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) '90 Plymouth Horizon (soon to be little sister's car) ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
I appreciate the emotion you have for your opinion Alex, but there is at least one fact below that you have wrong. There is no connection between the management of SDAC and the Shelby Registry. In the past, SDAC has supported this mailing list and the Shelby Registry monetarily and probably will do so again in the future. Beyond that there is no connection between SDAC and the entities Bill Yohman oversees. Oh wait, yeah there is too, Bill is a member of SDAC. Barry Goodall President, Shelby Dodge Auto Club > I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry > falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that > every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he > now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. > Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. > > Alex... ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
Oh, by the way if any of you are on AIM (AKA. Aol Instant messenger) you can contact me if you want to add your information or provide your 2 cents. My nick is BDownardDSM - Original Message - From: "Brian R. Downard Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shelby Dodge Mailing List" Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry I am actually going to be having alot more then just a registry on the web site. I am going to have all kinds of information that everyone will be able to use. I am working on the site as we speak, making sure all of the links are working correctly. If you view the site right now, there are some broken links, that just means that I haven't gotten to them yet. I do appreciate all of the positive comments that I am getting. I know that it's not going to please everyone, but for the most part a registry for the Dodge Shelby Automobiles is an information basis. I will be making pages that will combine all Dodge Shelby websites together in one. I will provide links to other sites if I can't fit all of the information to my site. I will only post personal information on people's automobiles only with their permission. I am not into stealing that information. I will be going to certain sites asking permission to use certain information if it is copywritten. - Original Message - From: "Brian Schulteis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shelby Dodge Mailing List" Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry I agree completely. I saw a post he made today claiming the information was all his. Not that he's gotten around to posting my info yet, because he's so bloody far behind on it, but the fact that he considers the data I GAVE him to be HIS is crap. If you need a good name for your registry, get the same name, ShelbyDodgeRegistry, but register it under the new .info name, which is a more fitting name for it anyways. www.ShelbyDodgeRegistry.info -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '83 Shelby Charger (Megasquirt MPFI) '87 Shelby GLHS #895 '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) '90 Plymouth Horizon (soon to be little sister's car) On 5/23/05, Alex Melnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. Alex... 87 CSX #562 2002 WRX Sportwagon 1992 GMC Typhoon ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
RE: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
Add to that www.shelbyregistry.net, .org and .info Same deal. Alex... 87 CSX #562 2002 WRX Sportwagon 1992 GMC Typhoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Melnikov Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:13 PM To: 'Brian Schulteis'; 'Shelby Dodge Mailing List' Subject: RE: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry I just registered a bunch of registeryourshelby domains and will give them away for free for a good cause. Contact me for details. Alex... 87 CSX #562 2002 WRX Sportwagon 1992 GMC Typhoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Schulteis Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:03 PM To: Shelby Dodge Mailing List Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry I agree completely. I saw a post he made today claiming the information was all his. Not that he's gotten around to posting my info yet, because he's so bloody far behind on it, but the fact that he considers the data I GAVE him to be HIS is crap. If you need a good name for your registry, get the same name, ShelbyDodgeRegistry, but register it under the new .info name, which is a more fitting name for it anyways. www.ShelbyDodgeRegistry.info -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '83 Shelby Charger (Megasquirt MPFI) '87 Shelby GLHS #895 '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) '90 Plymouth Horizon (soon to be little sister's car) On 5/23/05, Alex Melnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry > falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that > every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he > now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. > Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. > > Alex... > 87 CSX #562 > 2002 WRX Sportwagon > 1992 GMC Typhoon ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING-- -- Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING-- -- Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
I am actually going to be having alot more then just a registry on the web site. I am going to have all kinds of information that everyone will be able to use. I am working on the site as we speak, making sure all of the links are working correctly. If you view the site right now, there are some broken links, that just means that I haven't gotten to them yet. I do appreciate all of the positive comments that I am getting. I know that it's not going to please everyone, but for the most part a registry for the Dodge Shelby Automobiles is an information basis. I will be making pages that will combine all Dodge Shelby websites together in one. I will provide links to other sites if I can't fit all of the information to my site. I will only post personal information on people's automobiles only with their permission. I am not into stealing that information. I will be going to certain sites asking permission to use certain information if it is copywritten. - Original Message - From: "Brian Schulteis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shelby Dodge Mailing List" Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry I agree completely. I saw a post he made today claiming the information was all his. Not that he's gotten around to posting my info yet, because he's so bloody far behind on it, but the fact that he considers the data I GAVE him to be HIS is crap. If you need a good name for your registry, get the same name, ShelbyDodgeRegistry, but register it under the new .info name, which is a more fitting name for it anyways. www.ShelbyDodgeRegistry.info -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '83 Shelby Charger (Megasquirt MPFI) '87 Shelby GLHS #895 '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) '90 Plymouth Horizon (soon to be little sister's car) On 5/23/05, Alex Melnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. Alex... 87 CSX #562 2002 WRX Sportwagon 1992 GMC Typhoon ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
RE: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
I just registered a bunch of registeryourshelby domains and will give them away for free for a good cause. Contact me for details. Alex... 87 CSX #562 2002 WRX Sportwagon 1992 GMC Typhoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Schulteis Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:03 PM To: Shelby Dodge Mailing List Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry I agree completely. I saw a post he made today claiming the information was all his. Not that he's gotten around to posting my info yet, because he's so bloody far behind on it, but the fact that he considers the data I GAVE him to be HIS is crap. If you need a good name for your registry, get the same name, ShelbyDodgeRegistry, but register it under the new .info name, which is a more fitting name for it anyways. www.ShelbyDodgeRegistry.info -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '83 Shelby Charger (Megasquirt MPFI) '87 Shelby GLHS #895 '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) '90 Plymouth Horizon (soon to be little sister's car) On 5/23/05, Alex Melnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry > falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that > every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he > now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. > Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. > > Alex... > 87 CSX #562 > 2002 WRX Sportwagon > 1992 GMC Typhoon ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING-- -- Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
I agree completely. I saw a post he made today claiming the information was all his. Not that he's gotten around to posting my info yet, because he's so bloody far behind on it, but the fact that he considers the data I GAVE him to be HIS is crap. If you need a good name for your registry, get the same name, ShelbyDodgeRegistry, but register it under the new .info name, which is a more fitting name for it anyways. www.ShelbyDodgeRegistry.info -- Brian J. Schulteis Bremerton, Washington '83 Shelby Charger (Megasquirt MPFI) '87 Shelby GLHS #895 '88 Daytona Pacifica (Intercooled 2.5L daily driver) '90 Plymouth Horizon (soon to be little sister's car) On 5/23/05, Alex Melnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry > falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that > every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he > now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. > Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. > > Alex... > 87 CSX #562 > 2002 WRX Sportwagon > 1992 GMC Typhoon ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
RE: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
I say it's a great effort and more power to you. SDAC and Shelby Registry falling into the hands of a-hole A.K.A. Bill Yolman was the worst thing that every happened to Shelby Dodges. Any info and data that was shared him he now considers his own and imposes his own rules on it. Screw him. Just need to register a better name for the site, that's all. Alex... 87 CSX #562 2002 WRX Sportwagon 1992 GMC Typhoon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian R. Downard Sr. Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:57 PM To: Shelby Dodge Mailing List Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry I have tried to register my car at that web site for a long time now and never any response. I have tried to add my car to other sites and no one will resopnd. That is why I am working on creating a site where someone will respond and update things in a timely manner. That is what my entire goal is. If you send me your information if it's a Dodge Shelby automobile between 1983-1993 and 1999 it will be placed within 24-48 hours. I don't charge anything to place your cars on the list. It's free. If you just bought a car that is a Dodge Shelby let me know. If you just sold it. Let me know I will change it. If you want to sell your dodge shelby you can do that as well on my website... ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING-- -- Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
At 12:43 PM 5/23/2005 -0400, you wrote: > Hello everyone. If you have a numberd Shelby Dodge I am looking to add you > on the registry. I want to make it complete as possible. It's getting close > to become a classic car. Next year will make the 1986 GLHS a classic car > being 20 years old. To see how rare your car is contact me with your > information. Visit my website at > http://www.soulserpentmedia.com/DodgeShelby.html and click on the registry > link of the car you have. I don't care if it's running or not. If you own it > you deserve to register it with me. As the years go on, I have been seeing > more and more people part out their cars. Let me know which ones you have. > If you have any other dodge shelby automobile let me know as well. I will be > putting the others on the website with only your permission. While enthusiasm and active participation in projects to improve and maintain the Shelby Dodge hobby is thing I have the utmost respect for, a professional website to take care of these historical & documentation needs was created back in 1995 via www.shelbyregistry.com . It would seem kind of redundant to set up one more new website with so many of the same overall ideas in mind. There have been complaints over the years that the registry database has not been updated enough but it would seem a wiser idea to me to work with our already existing and well established resources to build and maintain an up to date resource for everybody. Bill Yohman who operates the site has built a very professional site but doesn't always have enough time and resources to hand input a tremendous amount of owner information into a easy to use database. If you have the time, enthusiasm and skills to tackle this I would make an inquiry to him to see how you could improve what we already have. If there are too many choices of very similar historical services in this hobby then each one of them will suffer because people will be confused and won't end up finding the time to actively participate in them. Sometimes re-inventing can be counterproductive. Thanks for the plug. We have had some great donations recently and now that I'm back in town, I'll be letting a contract to create a program to update the Registry. I don't have a firm date yet but once the contract is let, I'll keep everyone posted. Cheers. -- Bill Yohman - SDML Admin Team Member 86 GLHS 201 - 2000 Intrepid 2004 Ram (Yeah, it's got a Hemi!) ICQ #6810106 AIM: shelbyregistry YAHOO!: shelbyregistry http://www.SDML.org/ ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
At 01:21 AM 5/23/2005 -0400, you wrote: Hi Brian... Sounds like your gung ho on keepin it up to date! If you want to get a list of numbered car owners, check out _www.shelbyregistry.com_ (http://www.shelbyregistry.com) There should be plenty of info on there thats not in use.. also I think theres _www.shelbyglhs.com_ (http://www.shelbyglhs.com) specifically for the L body 86-87's If anyone wants to use information from the Registry they need to ask first before using any of the information. Cheers. -- Bill Yohman - SDML Admin Team Member 86 GLHS 201 - 2000 Intrepid 2004 Ram (Yeah, it's got a Hemi!) ICQ #6810106 AIM: shelbyregistry YAHOO!: shelbyregistry http://www.SDML.org/ ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
Jason (and others), For the time being, I am supporting Bill in his efforts to get the current site under control. Over the winter, SDAC contributed to both this list and the ShelbyRegistry that Bill has. I've also assured Bill that I would be willing to help in any way I can. He has a massive amount of data that needs updating, what is currently on the website is only the tip of the iceberg. So he not only needs to find a way to easily keep the site up to date, he needs to find a way to get the 1000's of updates he has on file, inputted to the site. Since they are nearly all in an email format, many would probably be able to be interpreted by software, but there are probably as many or more that will need to be manually input, and then the entire thing error checked before posting online. Do not underestimate the amount of effort involved! I too felt at one time that SDAC would be a "natural" organization to maintain the data, and gave some thought to even starting a registry of our own both for our member's cars and for the public's. But there are drawbacks to either plan also, enough that I am very willing to see what solution Bill can come up with. From my experience dealing with the SD/TD crowd and keeping track of the few hundred members we have, and how folks respond to info requests, I know firsthand some of the complexities Bill faces in this challenge. Just one example, a very minor one.Suppose someone has sent an update and included the VIN but the car is missing the dash plaque and the current owner is unsure of the plaque number so that wasn't supplied in the update. So the current owner makes a mistake typing the VIN and either it doesn't match the master VIN list or maybe the error has 2 digits in the last 6 transposed and it still matches the master VIN list, but the whole record has a feel that something is wrong with it. What is done with that record? If it is handled by software, and the VIN doesn't match, then the record is flagged for later attention. If the VIN matches the list as being valid for that year/model, then the record gets posted, but it is wrong and an error is now propagated to the site. What has been gained by that? Having the wrong info is just as bad as not having the info there at all. It is only by human intervention and thought given that the error presents itself. Then that record must be placed aside for later follow up and investigation. Folks may argue that "Well it is the owner's fault for getting it wrong" but that is not the point. The point is, if there is to be a site that is a true registry for these cars, it means nothing if the data on the site isn't accurate (just like all the complaints are about now). So having a registry sounds simple enough, but having a registry that has data integrity is very difficult indeed. There were roughly 8500 numbered Shelby cars produced at Whittier, nobody knows how many have survived, and nobody knows how many are in the hands of enthusiasts (who would be the only ones likely to send an update). And I am not anxious to take such a project on. Barry > While I agree that reinventing is sometimes counterproductive, > I've emailed Bill at least 3 times offering my assistance in > designing a PHP/MySQL interface that would allow easier > maintenance and more accurate reporting. I still have yet to > hear back from him concerning it. I certainly recognize the time > it takes to maintain something of this magnitude, but at the same > time, if Bill's not interested in getting help, it's hard to feel any > loyalty in my book. > > Barry, is this something that SDAC proper could think about > taking under it's umbrella, if Bill were to allow it? It seems like > something that fall directly in line with the mission of SDAC. > If so, I'll be more than willing to volunteer coding time and effort > to build an appropriate registry database (I'm a systems developer > by trade). > >Jason Clark ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
In a message dated 5/23/2005 1:57:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have tried to register my car at that web site for a long time now and never any response. I have tried to add my car to other sites and no one will resopnd. That is why I am working on creating a site where someone will respond and update things in a timely manner. That is what my entire goal is. If you send me your information if it's a Dodge Shelby automobile between 1983-1993 and 1999 it will be placed within 24-48 hours. I don't charge anything to place your cars on the list. It's free. If you just bought a car that is a Dodge Shelby let me know. If you just sold it. Let me know I will change it. If you want to sell your dodge shelby you can do that as well on my website... I agree that you get no response.I tried for about 2 years to register my shelby lancer and have sent 2 emails for my current 89 csx and still no response. It`s been 4 years and I still see no listing of the car I had or my car I still have. The current website has a very good layout and looks good. Also the website name you have picked is too complicated for people to find or remember.Maybe if someone with good computer skills could help Bill and keep it updated very good.This would benefit everyone because everyone already knows of the shelbydodgeregistry.com.Something should be done,but I don`t believe another site is the answer for now .If you still decide to go along with it,at least have a good site for it that people could remember and tell others about by word of mouth. . TRAVIS FOSTER,GREENVILLE,S.C.,89 Shelby CSX-VNT #198 <~maybe fs depending on the week,89 daytona shelby _13.6 @ 103, 71_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED],%2071) `Cuda 383 original [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) stock,98 GC deep slate 5.9 limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] , 2000 YUKON XL SLT 4WD ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
I can't wait for a working and accurate website. I don't care who does it either. It is refreshing to think that someone is finally going to try to accomplish it, and if it is at the expense of another website that has been languishing for years, thats ok too. I see value in this new website. Please make it happen. I've been trying to register my shelby for YEARS now. -- Original message -- > Good point David. I agree 1000% > > Barry Goodall > Shelby Dodge Auto Club -- Visit our website at www.sdac.org > > Now accepting new members online through PayPal payment. > > > > > > While enthusiasm and active participation in projects to improve and > > maintain the Shelby Dodge hobby is thing I have the utmost respect > for, a > > professional website to take care of these historical & > documentation needs > > was created back in 1995 via www.shelbyregistry.com . It would seem > kind of > > redundant to set up one more new website with so many of the same > overall > > ideas in mind. > > > > There have been complaints over the years that the registry database > has not > > been updated enough but it would seem a wiser idea to me to work > with our > > already existing and well established resources to build and > maintain an up > > to date resource for everybody. > > > > Bill Yohman who operates the site has built a very professional site > but > > doesn't always have enough time and resources to hand input a > tremendous > > amount of owner information into a easy to use database. If you have > the > > time, enthusiasm and skills to tackle this I would make an inquiry > to him to > > see how you could improve what we already have. > > > > If there are too many choices of very similar historical services in > this > > hobby then each one of them will suffer because people will be > confused and > > won't end up finding the time to actively participate in them. > Sometimes > > re-inventing can be counterproductive. > > > > David Salamone > > Positive Impressions > > PO Box 27073 > > Jacksonville, Florida 32205 > > 904-388-4040 phone > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING > > Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ > > To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
While I agree that reinventing is sometimes counterproductive, I've emailed Bill at least 3 times offering my assistance in designing a PHP/MySQL interface that would allow easier maintenance and more accurate reporting. I still have yet to hear back from him concerning it. I certainly recognize the time it takes to maintain something of this magnitude, but at the same time, if Bill's not interested in getting help, it's hard to feel any loyalty in my book. Barry, is this something that SDAC proper could think about taking under it's umbrella, if Bill were to allow it? It seems like something that fall directly in line with the mission of SDAC. If so, I'll be more than willing to volunteer coding time and effort to build an appropriate registry database (I'm a systems developer by trade). Jason Clark 87 Shelby CSX #76 87 Shelby CSX #657 85 Omni GLH-Turbo (in need of a new tranny) Barry Goodall wrote: Good point David. I agree 1000% Barry Goodall Shelby Dodge Auto Club -- Visit our website at www.sdac.org Now accepting new members online through PayPal payment. While enthusiasm and active participation in projects to improve and maintain the Shelby Dodge hobby is thing I have the utmost respect for, a professional website to take care of these historical & documentation needs was created back in 1995 via www.shelbyregistry.com . It would seem kind of redundant to set up one more new website with so many of the same overall ideas in mind. There have been complaints over the years that the registry database has not been updated enough but it would seem a wiser idea to me to work with our already existing and well established resources to build and maintain an up to date resource for everybody. Bill Yohman who operates the site has built a very professional site but doesn't always have enough time and resources to hand input a tremendous amount of owner information into a easy to use database. If you have the time, enthusiasm and skills to tackle this I would make an inquiry to him to see how you could improve what we already have. If there are too many choices of very similar historical services in this hobby then each one of them will suffer because people will be confused and won't end up finding the time to actively participate in them. Sometimes re-inventing can be counterproductive. David Salamone Positive Impressions PO Box 27073 Jacksonville, Florida 32205 904-388-4040 phone[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
I have tried to register my car at that web site for a long time now and never any response. I have tried to add my car to other sites and no one will resopnd. That is why I am working on creating a site where someone will respond and update things in a timely manner. That is what my entire goal is. If you send me your information if it's a Dodge Shelby automobile between 1983-1993 and 1999 it will be placed within 24-48 hours. I don't charge anything to place your cars on the list. It's free. If you just bought a car that is a Dodge Shelby let me know. If you just sold it. Let me know I will change it. If you want to sell your dodge shelby you can do that as well on my website... ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
Good point David. I agree 1000% Barry Goodall Shelby Dodge Auto Club -- Visit our website at www.sdac.org Now accepting new members online through PayPal payment. > While enthusiasm and active participation in projects to improve and > maintain the Shelby Dodge hobby is thing I have the utmost respect for, a > professional website to take care of these historical & documentation needs > was created back in 1995 via www.shelbyregistry.com . It would seem kind of > redundant to set up one more new website with so many of the same overall > ideas in mind. > > There have been complaints over the years that the registry database has not > been updated enough but it would seem a wiser idea to me to work with our > already existing and well established resources to build and maintain an up > to date resource for everybody. > > Bill Yohman who operates the site has built a very professional site but > doesn't always have enough time and resources to hand input a tremendous > amount of owner information into a easy to use database. If you have the > time, enthusiasm and skills to tackle this I would make an inquiry to him to > see how you could improve what we already have. > > If there are too many choices of very similar historical services in this > hobby then each one of them will suffer because people will be confused and > won't end up finding the time to actively participate in them. Sometimes > re-inventing can be counterproductive. > > David Salamone > Positive Impressions > PO Box 27073 > Jacksonville, Florida 32205 > 904-388-4040 phone > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
> Hello everyone. If you have a numberd Shelby Dodge I am looking to add you > on the registry. I want to make it complete as possible. It's getting close > to become a classic car. Next year will make the 1986 GLHS a classic car > being 20 years old. To see how rare your car is contact me with your > information. Visit my website at > http://www.soulserpentmedia.com/DodgeShelby.html and click on the registry > link of the car you have. I don't care if it's running or not. If you own it > you deserve to register it with me. As the years go on, I have been seeing > more and more people part out their cars. Let me know which ones you have. > If you have any other dodge shelby automobile let me know as well. I will be > putting the others on the website with only your permission. While enthusiasm and active participation in projects to improve and maintain the Shelby Dodge hobby is thing I have the utmost respect for, a professional website to take care of these historical & documentation needs was created back in 1995 via www.shelbyregistry.com . It would seem kind of redundant to set up one more new website with so many of the same overall ideas in mind. There have been complaints over the years that the registry database has not been updated enough but it would seem a wiser idea to me to work with our already existing and well established resources to build and maintain an up to date resource for everybody. Bill Yohman who operates the site has built a very professional site but doesn't always have enough time and resources to hand input a tremendous amount of owner information into a easy to use database. If you have the time, enthusiasm and skills to tackle this I would make an inquiry to him to see how you could improve what we already have. If there are too many choices of very similar historical services in this hobby then each one of them will suffer because people will be confused and won't end up finding the time to actively participate in them. Sometimes re-inventing can be counterproductive. David Salamone Positive Impressions PO Box 27073 Jacksonville, Florida 32205 904-388-4040 phone [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
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I have looked at those web sites and I am not sure about how up to date they are. I see people selling Dodge Shelby's all the time on ebay. and people selling them here. Also people parting them out. I am very gung ho on keeping it up to date. I love Dodge Shelby's. They are so awesome. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:21 AM Subject: Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry Hi Brian... Sounds like your gung ho on keepin it up to date! If you want to get a list of numbered car owners, check out www.shelbyregistry.com There should be plenty of info on there thats not in use.. also I think theres www.shelbyglhs.com specifically for the L body 86-87's :) your sites really commin along nicely! Chris Pauluk - Modesto CA. - 1984 T2 Rampage "Ramlet" www.cardomain.com/id/pentastarturbo - www.cardomain.com/id/solo2rampage In a message dated 5/22/2005 10:16:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone. If you have a numberd Shelby Dodge I am looking to add you on the registry. I want to make it complete as possible. It's getting close to become a classic car. Next year will make the 1986 GLHS a classic car being 20 years old. To see how rare your car is contact me with your information. Visit my website at http://www.soulserpentmedia.com/DodgeShelby.html and click on the registry link of the car you have. I don't care if it's running or not. If you own it you deserve to register it with me. As the years go on, I have been seeing more and more people part out their cars. Let me know which ones you have. If you have any other dodge shelby automobile let me know as well. I will be putting the others on the website with only your permission. Please help this site grow. I am working on this site day and night to make sure that it's the most accurate as possible. Thanks again; Brian Downard Sr. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
Re: SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
Hi Brian... Sounds like your gung ho on keepin it up to date! If you want to get a list of numbered car owners, check out _www.shelbyregistry.com_ (http://www.shelbyregistry.com) There should be plenty of info on there thats not in use.. also I think theres _www.shelbyglhs.com_ (http://www.shelbyglhs.com) specifically for the L body 86-87's :) your sites really commin along nicely! Chris Pauluk - Modesto CA. - 1984 T2 Rampage "Ramlet" _www.cardomain.com/id/pentastarturbo_ (http://www.cardomain.com/id/pentastarturbo) - _www.cardomain.com/id/solo2rampage_ (http://www.cardomain.com/id/solo2rampage) In a message dated 5/22/2005 10:16:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone. If you have a numberd Shelby Dodge I am looking to add you on the registry. I want to make it complete as possible. It's getting close to become a classic car. Next year will make the 1986 GLHS a classic car being 20 years old. To see how rare your car is contact me with your information. Visit my website at http://www.soulserpentmedia.com/DodgeShelby.html and click on the registry link of the car you have. I don't care if it's running or not. If you own it you deserve to register it with me. As the years go on, I have been seeing more and more people part out their cars. Let me know which ones you have. If you have any other dodge shelby automobile let me know as well. I will be putting the others on the website with only your permission. Please help this site grow. I am working on this site day and night to make sure that it's the most accurate as possible. Thanks again; Brian Downard Sr. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
SD> New Shelby Dodge Registry
Hello everyone. If you have a numberd Shelby Dodge I am looking to add you on the registry. I want to make it complete as possible. It's getting close to become a classic car. Next year will make the 1986 GLHS a classic car being 20 years old. To see how rare your car is contact me with your information. Visit my website at http://www.soulserpentmedia.com/DodgeShelby.html and click on the registry link of the car you have. I don't care if it's running or not. If you own it you deserve to register it with me. As the years go on, I have been seeing more and more people part out their cars. Let me know which ones you have. If you have any other dodge shelby automobile let me know as well. I will be putting the others on the website with only your permission. Please help this site grow. I am working on this site day and night to make sure that it's the most accurate as possible. Thanks again; Brian Downard Sr. ---REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING Questions? Visit http://www.sdml.org/ To be removed, visit http://www.sdml.org/pages/leave.html
