Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size

[Guangliang Pan]

Hi Masato-san,

We have made 220 allocations from those old /23 blocks.

Cheers,
Guangliang
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From: Masato Yamanishi [mailto:myama...@japan-telecom.com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2014 9:39 AM
To: Guangliang Pan; 'David Conrad'; SIG policy
Cc: Masato Yamanishi
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6 
default allocation size

Guanliang,

How many allocations did we make from the old /23 blocks?

Rgs,
Masato Yamanishi


On 14/01/27 21:20, "Guangliang Pan" mailto:g...@apnic.net>> 
wrote:

Hi David,

I think that statement refers to early IPv6 allocations from the old /23 
blocks. Before APNIC received the /12 allocation from IANA, we use sequence 
allocation method to make /32 allocations and reserved up to /29 for every 
allocation. That was the practice for all RIRs in the early stage. I believe 
this policy proposal is trying to address those reserved space.

APNIC has been using spare allocation method to make IPv6 allocations from the 
/12 block since we received it from IANA. We don’t do reservation in sparse 
allocation, but in fact every allocation has a room to grow. Current /32 
allocations from the /12 block can grow up to /24 at this stage.

Best regards,

Guangliang
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[mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of David Conrad
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2014 11:30 AM
To: SIG policy
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6 
default allocation size

However, the space up to /29 is reserved by APNIC secretariat for each /32 
allocation.

I thought the spare allocation method the RIRs agreed to use for IPv6 in order 
to get the /12 from the IANA precluded the need to reserve any address space.

Does APNIC still reserve address space?

Thanks,
-drc


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Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size

[Tomohiro -INSTALLER- Fujisaki/藤崎 智宏]

Hi Masato-san,

My intention is to modify initial allocation criteria up to /29
for all members (in all blocks).

Yours Sincerely,
--
Tomohiro Fujisaki

From: Masato Yamanishi 
Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6 
default allocation size
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:50:24 -0800

 | Fujisaki-san,
 | 
 | Let me clarify one thing.
 | 
 | Do you intend to changing minimum allocation size only for old /23 blocks
 | where we reserved /29 for each LIRs, or for all blocks?
 | 
 | Rgs,
 | Masato
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | On 14/01/27 22:19, "(Tomohiro -INSTALLER- Fujisaki/藤崎 智宏)"
 |  wrote:
 | 
 | >
 | >Hi,
 | >
 | >Guangliang, thank you so much for explaining current situation.
 | >I was just drafting my reply mail:-)
 | >
 | >David, what Guangliang mentioned is almost same as my drafted reply
 | >mail, with smarter and clearer explanation.
 | >
 | >Yours Sincerely,
 | >--
 | >Tomohiro Fujisaki
 | >
 | >
 | >From: Guangliang Pan 
 | >Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6
 | >default allocation size
 | >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 05:20:30 +
 | >
 | > | Hi David,
 | > | 
 | > | I think that statement refers to early IPv6 allocations from the old
 | >/23 blocks. Before APNIC received the /12 allocation from IANA, we use
 | >sequence allocation method to make /32 allocations and reserved up to /29
 | >for every allocation. That was the practice for all RIRs in the early
 | >stage. I believe this policy proposal is trying to address those reserved
 | >space.
 | > | 
 | > | APNIC has been using spare allocation method to make IPv6 allocations
 | >from the /12 block since we received it from IANA. We don't do
 | >reservation in sparse allocation, but in fact every allocation has a room
 | >to grow. Current /32 allocations from the /12 block can grow up to /24 at
 | >this stage.
 | > | 
 | > | Best regards,
 | > | 
 | > | Guangliang
 | > | =
 | > | 
 | > | 
 | > | From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net
 | >[mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of David Conrad
 | > | Sent: Monday, 27 January 2014 11:30 AM
 | > | To: SIG policy
 | > | Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of
 | >IPv6 default allocation size
 | > | 
 | > | However, the space up to /29 is reserved by APNIC secretariat for each
 | >/32 allocation.
 | > | 
 | > | I thought the spare allocation method the RIRs agreed to use for IPv6
 | >in order to get the /12 from the IANA precluded the need to reserve any
 | >address space.
 | > | 
 | > | Does APNIC still reserve address space?
 | > | 
 | > | Thanks,
 | > | -drc
 | > | 
 | > | 
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Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size

[Masato Yamanishi]

Fujisaki-san,

Let me clarify one thing.

Do you intend to changing minimum allocation size only for old /23 blocks
where we reserved /29 for each LIRs, or for all blocks?

Rgs,
Masato



On 14/01/27 22:19, "(Tomohiro -INSTALLER- Fujisaki/藤崎 智宏)"
 wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>Guangliang, thank you so much for explaining current situation.
>I was just drafting my reply mail:-)
>
>David, what Guangliang mentioned is almost same as my drafted reply
>mail, with smarter and clearer explanation.
>
>Yours Sincerely,
>--
>Tomohiro Fujisaki
>
>
>From: Guangliang Pan 
>Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6
>default allocation size
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 05:20:30 +
>
> | Hi David,
> | 
> | I think that statement refers to early IPv6 allocations from the old
>/23 blocks. Before APNIC received the /12 allocation from IANA, we use
>sequence allocation method to make /32 allocations and reserved up to /29
>for every allocation. That was the practice for all RIRs in the early
>stage. I believe this policy proposal is trying to address those reserved
>space.
> | 
> | APNIC has been using spare allocation method to make IPv6 allocations
>from the /12 block since we received it from IANA. We don't do
>reservation in sparse allocation, but in fact every allocation has a room
>to grow. Current /32 allocations from the /12 block can grow up to /24 at
>this stage.
> | 
> | Best regards,
> | 
> | Guangliang
> | =
> | 
> | 
> | From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net
>[mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of David Conrad
> | Sent: Monday, 27 January 2014 11:30 AM
> | To: SIG policy
> | Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of
>IPv6 default allocation size
> | 
> | However, the space up to /29 is reserved by APNIC secretariat for each
>/32 allocation.
> | 
> | I thought the spare allocation method the RIRs agreed to use for IPv6
>in order to get the /12 from the IANA precluded the need to reserve any
>address space.
> | 
> | Does APNIC still reserve address space?
> | 
> | Thanks,
> | -drc
> | 
> | 
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Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6 default allocation size

[Masato Yamanishi]

Guanliang,

How many allocations did we make from the old /23 blocks?

Rgs,
Masato Yamanishi


On 14/01/27 21:20, "Guangliang Pan"  wrote:

> Hi David,
>  
> I think that statement refers to early IPv6 allocations from the old /23
> blocks. Before APNIC received the /12 allocation from IANA, we use sequence
> allocation method to make /32 allocations and reserved up to /29 for every
> allocation. That was the practice for all RIRs in the early stage. I believe
> this policy proposal is trying to address those reserved space.
>  
> APNIC has been using spare allocation method to make IPv6 allocations from the
> /12 block since we received it from IANA. We don’t do reservation in sparse
> allocation, but in fact every allocation has a room to grow. Current /32
> allocations from the /12 block can grow up to /24 at this stage.
>  
> Best regards,
>  
> Guangliang
> =
>  
>  
> 
> From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net
> [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of David Conrad
> Sent: Monday, 27 January 2014 11:30 AM
> To: SIG policy
> Subject: Re: [sig-policy] prop-111-v001: Request-based expansion of IPv6
> default allocation size
>  
>>> 
>>> However, the space up to /29 is reserved by APNIC secretariat for each /32
>>> allocation.
> 
>  
> I thought the spare allocation method the RIRs agreed to use for IPv6 in order
> to get the /12 from the IANA precluded the need to reserve any address space.
> 
>  
> 
> Does APNIC still reserve address space?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -drc
> 
>  
>  
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