Re: [silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power ofInternet advertising ...for a great cause ...
The question is really whether the world food program is legitimate enough...rather than mr.breen, who is a small fish in what is a large teeming pond. the free rice site by itself is misleading on various fronts. the WFP for one is primarily involved in the logistics of food delivery rather than buying and selling food (their cost of logistics however is usually abnormally high when compared to other similar organisations doing the same thing)... Secondly, most of the food that is distributed is "free", subsidy powered surplus from america and europe. What they buy locally is usually significant in comparison to what is imported and dumped ashok On 12/18/07, Lawnun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The game was both amusing and addictive. Still the investigator in me > forced me to delve a little further. > > Turns out Mr. Breen, the creator of the site (and poverty.com) is reluctant > to become a legitimate nonprofit organization. Absent the accountability > (and transparency) of this designation, we're all generally supposed to > "trust him" that the money raised by adverts is actually going to to the > World Food Program. [1] > > The upside to Mr. Breen's work, is that he's done this before, with > apparently a good track record. Hey, he even won a Webby (not sure if that > says much, but still) [2]. > > Admittedly, the World Food Program seems to find him legitimate enough, so > for now, I'll keep clicking (and boosting my vocabulary). [3] > > [1] > http://www.thepcspy.com/read/is_freericecom_making_150k_each_day_in_profits > [2] > http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/wavlength/archive/2007/11/should_you_trust_freericecom.shtml > [3] http://www.wfp.org/english/?n=681 > > On Dec 18, 2007 7:02 AM, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Persisted upto 2000 grains. Hope that kid isn't very hungry today. > > > > shiv > > > > > > On Tuesday 18 Dec 2007 3:27 pm, Deepa Mohan wrote: > > > On Dec 18, 2007 3:19 PM, Valsa Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > *Read on … http://www.freerice.com/ * > > > > > > > > * * > > > > Cheers ! > > > > > > > > Valsa > > > > > > Valsa...I just spent TWENTY minutes there and I hope that was enough > > > rice to feed at least one child! > > > > > > Thanks, will be visiting often. What an enjoyable way to do something > > nice! > > > > > > Deepa. > > > > >
Re: [silk] Failure of Sociology in India?
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Dec182007/editpage2007121741717.asp Social science research in India The decline By K N Ninan The academic ranking of world universities in 2007 compiled by the Shanghai Jiao Ton University noted that while universities and institutions from the US, UK, Europe, Japan and China figured among the top 200 in the world, Indian institutions were conspicuous by their absence. The survey was conducted using four indicators, namely, number of alumni and staff winning Nobel prizes or field medals, highly cited researchers in broad subject areas, articles published in highly rated journals, and academic performance with respect to the size of an institution. Sadly, whatever criteria or region one considers, social science research institutions in India are conspicuous by their absence which reflects the poor state of social science research in India. This is particularly pitiable considering the efforts made by the central and state governments and other agencies to promote social science research. To give a fillip to social science research the central government set up the Indian Council of Social Science Research (ICSSR) under the Human Resource Development Ministry way back in 1969, which facilitated establishment of ICSSR institutes in different states. From about nine ICSSR institutes in the 70s, the number of these institutes rose to 20 in the 80s and presently there are 27 institutes. They are funded by both the ICSSR and respective state governments, apart from other agencies. Besides this, the ICSSR also funds social science projects in universities and NGOs. Most of these institutes are autonomous and registered under the Societies registration acts. A major reason which prompted the government to promote such autonomous institutes was to create an ideal environment conducive for research unfettered by bureaucratic hassles as in government and university departments. These institutes were led by eminent persons such as V K R V Rao, K N Raj, C H Hanumantha Rao and were also able to attract meritorious persons. Unfortunately, many of these institutes have become highly bureaucratic and controlled by caste oligarchies or academic mafias. Many directors are neither known for their academic scholarship nor for administrative acumen and seem to have obtained their positions based on their caste tag, personal equations, and extent of their pliability. The atmosphere in these institutions is far from conducive for scholarly work and faculty are having a declining say in the running of these institutions. Non academics such as bureaucrats, corporate gurus not known for their research or academic skills, are dictating terms as to how to conduct research and run these institutes. Academic and research merchants not known for their scholarship except their nexus with funding agencies are writing project reports like instant coffee, taking advantage of the internet and cut and paste technology. Sycophancy and mediocrity are the qualities in demand and genuine scholars find it difficult to survive in this atmosphere. Faculty are not assessed in terms of the quality of their work as evinced by citations and publications in internationally rated journals but in terms of the number of projects, reports and papers published anywhere. Money making rather than good scholarly work is now the mantra in this globalisation era. The standards in some institutes are even lower than in the universities. As per UGC norms a Masters degree in the relevant subject with minimum 55 per cent marks is an essential qualification for a faculty position in a University. But in some institutes 50 per cent would suffice. For the post of Professor, the UGC stipulates experience in guiding Ph D students as an essential qualification but these institutes either don't prescribe to this but stipulate mere “ability” to guide Ph D Students and even that, as a “desirable” qualification only. Advertisements to recruit faculty are often tailor made to suit or unsuit candidates favoured or disfavoured by the directors or managements. These institutes have become citadels of upper caste power. Promising people especially from disadvantaged groups find it difficult to enter or go up the academic ladder in these institutes. While corruption and nepotism in governments and universities receive considerable public attention, the developments in these institutes remain outside the public gaze. Some of the institutes have even rented out their premises to NGOs and private trusts started by retired professors who use the institute’s name to obtain funds but retain these funds in their private trusts. A Committee set up to review the working of ICSSR institutes under the Chairmanship of A Vaidyanathan, in its report submitted in March 2007, has highlighted the growing commercialisation of research, neglect of independent sch
Re: [silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power ofInternet advertising ...for a great cause ...
The game was both amusing and addictive. Still the investigator in me forced me to delve a little further. Turns out Mr. Breen, the creator of the site (and poverty.com) is reluctant to become a legitimate nonprofit organization. Absent the accountability (and transparency) of this designation, we're all generally supposed to "trust him" that the money raised by adverts is actually going to to the World Food Program. [1] The upside to Mr. Breen's work, is that he's done this before, with apparently a good track record. Hey, he even won a Webby (not sure if that says much, but still) [2]. Admittedly, the World Food Program seems to find him legitimate enough, so for now, I'll keep clicking (and boosting my vocabulary). [3] [1] http://www.thepcspy.com/read/is_freericecom_making_150k_each_day_in_profits [2] http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/wavlength/archive/2007/11/should_you_trust_freericecom.shtml [3] http://www.wfp.org/english/?n=681 On Dec 18, 2007 7:02 AM, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Persisted upto 2000 grains. Hope that kid isn't very hungry today. > > shiv > > > On Tuesday 18 Dec 2007 3:27 pm, Deepa Mohan wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2007 3:19 PM, Valsa Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > *Read on … http://www.freerice.com/ * > > > > > > * * > > > Cheers ! > > > > > > Valsa > > > > Valsa...I just spent TWENTY minutes there and I hope that was enough > > rice to feed at least one child! > > > > Thanks, will be visiting often. What an enjoyable way to do something > nice! > > > > Deepa. > >
Re: [silk] pic of the year
Didn't do it for me. Too wide and too may distracting elements in the photo. Can't discern the subject matter clearly - my eye was drawn to the city skyline and the smog/fog more than anything else. Vardhini - Original Message From: Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:33:04 PM Subject: [silk] pic of the year Since several folks here are photo geeks, I thought you might appreciate this. Anindo, whom several of you know, has apparently turned professional photographer. If this is representative of his work then I think he'll do all right. Udhay http://www.flickr.com/photos/anindo/458928848/ Pink Flamingo Panorama *** VIEW IN LARGEST SIZE! *** Every year, tens of thousands of pink flamingos stop over in Mumbai on their annual migration, making the Sewri mud flats their transit camp for a couple of months. As soon as the news of their arrival comes out, thousands of migratory photographers descend on Sewri, to photograph these oddly coloured birds doing their thing. After having spent a fair amount of time, and many rolls of film, in capturing these birds, in trying to isolate a handful from amongst the thousands using longer and longer lenses, I figured that to truly evoke a sense of the vast numbers involved, no conventional photograph would do. So, here is a 270 degree panorama of the flamingo vista, taken from the tip of the Sewri jetty, for those who couldn't make it in person. The original panoramic image is over 40 MB in JPG, so it isn't going to get uploaded anywhere soon, but this scaled down edition hopefully provides a sufficiently detailed view. Of course, there is no point viewing this photo in anything but full size! 66 frames of 8 MP each, taken with a Minolta DiMAGE A200, and stitched in Panorama Factory 4.4. [Sewri Mud Flats, Mumbai, India] -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] Kochi or Kabini
> > Additionally, Kerala's high frequency of breakdowns in various public > systems due to strikes, hartals, gheraos, raasta rokos, shutter-downs > and other "peaceful protests" as well as things like rallies, > meetings, VIP movements, political fights etc. should also be > considered when thinking of living there long-term. > You forgot the incessant rain. Squelching through slushy streets in rubber slippers, your lungi hiked up to show an inch of long underwear and a huge black umbrella (and a thick layer of coconut oil on your hair) keeping your head sort of dry for most of the year ..
Re: [silk] Kochi or Kabini
On 17/12/2007, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to know too! I only spent a week there, during a salubrious > > time of year - what are the downsides that I'm missing? > > In my case (and I suspect the same is true of Madhu) I just have an > excessive number of relatives there. ;-) Ditto for me. Same reason goes for Bengaluru too, in my case :) Additionally, Kerala's high frequency of breakdowns in various public systems due to strikes, hartals, gheraos, raasta rokos, shutter-downs and other "peaceful protests" as well as things like rallies, meetings, VIP movements, political fights etc. should also be considered when thinking of living there long-term. Binand
Re: [silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power ofInternet advertising ...for a great cause ...
Persisted upto 2000 grains. Hope that kid isn't very hungry today. shiv On Tuesday 18 Dec 2007 3:27 pm, Deepa Mohan wrote: > On Dec 18, 2007 3:19 PM, Valsa Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Read on … http://www.freerice.com/ * > > > > * * > > Cheers ! > > > > Valsa > > Valsa...I just spent TWENTY minutes there and I hope that was enough > rice to feed at least one child! > > Thanks, will be visiting often. What an enjoyable way to do something nice! > > Deepa.
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 04:44:26PM +0530, Venkat Mangudi wrote: > Just *boot* it out and replace with Ubuntu. It is not just the cost of Ubuntu 7.04 (7.10 not yet, only player) comes with a VMWare server in official apt sources list. Licenses for VMWare server are free, and so is a migration tool. Instead of nuking the installation, it may be worthwhile to migrate it into a emulation jail (which can be easily backed-up, and restored). > the OS. The other apps add up. What people don't understand that a linux > OS does not just replace Windows, but also Office, AntiVirus, Firewall, > Outlook, MS Project, Anti-Spyware all those apps that cost you money. I wish my Ubuntu could replace my OS X and my XP. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
> You don't get security upgrades for these. It is a bad > business practice, so businesses must expect to relicense > eventually (or be forced to relicense, with heavy fines). Yes, yes and yes .. and what you say would hold good for corporate PCs. Even less for SMB / SOHO PCs. Not at all, unfortunately, for every random guy who has an old assembled PC and a broadband modem in his home, and doesn't bother much about windows update, antivirus or anything else .. and who is not going to get chased by nasscom / the bsa or others. srs
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 04:49:20PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Oh, right. When a pirated copy of XP, and office, can be had for dirt cheap? You don't get security upgrades for these. It is a bad business practice, so businesses must expect to relicense eventually (or be forced to relicense, with heavy fines). Also, the first shot is always for free; the losses will be more than recovered once you're hooked good and proper. Quoting historical prices for the string of software licenses might be convince some that "dirt cheap" is much too expensive, on the long run. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >> Just *boot* it out and replace with Ubuntu. It is not just the cost of >> the OS. The other apps add up. What people don't understand that a >> linux >> OS does not just replace Windows, but also Office, AntiVirus, Firewall, >> Outlook, MS Project, Anti-Spyware all those apps that cost you >> money. > > Oh, right. When a pirated copy of XP, and office, can be had for dirt cheap? Ubuntu is FREE and neither the cops nor MS is going to come knocking on your door. Dirt Cheap is not as cheap as FREE... > Advocacy is great, but naïve advocacy doesn’t really help. One has to start somewhere. And yes, funds are an issue. I am going to start keeping a count of how much money I have helped my friends, family and clients save. Call me naive (with or without the umlaut), I have no problems with it. Venkat
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Venkat Mangudi wrote: > >> Just *boot* it out and replace with Ubuntu. It is not just the cost of >> the OS. The other apps add up. What people don't understand that a linux >> OS does not just replace Windows, but also Office, AntiVirus, Firewall, >> Outlook, MS Project, Anti-Spyware all those apps that cost you money. > > Aren't we mixing up UseCases here ? :D > Well, we are just a Grady Booch of nut cases... ;)
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On 18-Dec-07, at 4:37 PM, ashok _ wrote: I have never seen such a preloaded windows version being sold for a pittance ? what happens when they need to upgrade this preloaded windows ? will the upgrade also be free ? When the tail is on fire, you'll get what you want for whatever you want, as long as there's the assurance that you'll indeed take it. Sorry to be cryptic.
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
> Just *boot* it out and replace with Ubuntu. It is not just the cost of > the OS. The other apps add up. What people don't understand that a > linux > OS does not just replace Windows, but also Office, AntiVirus, Firewall, > Outlook, MS Project, Anti-Spyware all those apps that cost you > money. Oh, right. When a pirated copy of XP, and office, can be had for dirt cheap? Advocacy is great, but naïve advocacy doesn’t really help. Yes it is listed as a "best practice" to "educate people" not to use pirated software, in my botnet toolkit - but I could sure wish for the moon while I'm at it. So I have a few other suggestions in there .. working to provide this kind of stuff to cybercafés, school and college labs etc where a lot of people access the Internet. And then find projects like those ELCOT is executing for the tamil nadu government, setting up Linux PCs for govt offices. http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/cyb/cybersecurity/projects/botnet.html - poke around at the background paper, especially the last few pages.
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Venkat Mangudi wrote: > Just *boot* it out and replace with Ubuntu. It is not just the cost of > the OS. The other apps add up. What people don't understand that a linux > OS does not just replace Windows, but also Office, AntiVirus, Firewall, > Outlook, MS Project, Anti-Spyware all those apps that cost you money. Aren't we mixing up UseCases here ? :D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHZ6wQXQZpNTcrCzMRAuK2AJ9zhAwQeiFl2UcUUIrjnC4GuqP38gCeL43a Q5qwQvRLfcEPv2ItdoLanZU= =cpOo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > What happens when there is a preloaded Windows at a pittance (and > official at that) ? Just *boot* it out and replace with Ubuntu. It is not just the cost of the OS. The other apps add up. What people don't understand that a linux OS does not just replace Windows, but also Office, AntiVirus, Firewall, Outlook, MS Project, Anti-Spyware all those apps that cost you money. Venkat
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Binand Sethumadhavan wrote: > Presumably by reducing the cost associated with a reasonably-featured > PC, so that more and more people can afford one (or several). The prices for a XP preloaded desktop from an Indian OEM is not much different from a Linux (in this case RHEL) preloaded one. So, given that the Windows one allows the user to run their favorite games, play their favorite codecs - what would be a compelling reason for a switch. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHZ6pcXQZpNTcrCzMRAoZuAKCcOtlN39ptMWHsaOHnM/pqqp/CPgCfU4CO FioQ2hO3UoEqCK6D4tp0smk= =WIOm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On Dec 18, 2007 1:56 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > What happens when there is a preloaded Windows at a pittance (and > official at that) ? > I have never seen such a preloaded windows version being sold for a pittance ? what happens when they need to upgrade this preloaded windows ? will the upgrade also be free ? > Given that most mom and pop shops assemble their H/W - how much > effective is a Linux distribution in terms of hardware compatibility ? Much better than before... Here in nairobi most cybercafes used to run on windows, over the last 3 months.. the cyber police has been raiding and slapping them with show cause notices for running unlicensed software. As a result most of these cafes are switching to linux distros
Re: [silk] Fwd: FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
At 2007-12-18 16:17:47 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You'd have to spend quite some time there to provide a snack to a > small kid, let alone a full grown man. By the time I put together enough for a small kid (I discovered the site several days ago), I noticed that words had begun to repeat depressingly often. Then it stopped being quite so much fun. I wonder if they actually donate any rice to anyone. -- ams
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
Valsa Williams wrote: > Besides just the free software, awareness campaigns should be loud and > pervasive. I just got a new laptop with Ubuntu 7.10. ISPs like Tata Indicom We need a lot of people talking to the common man to bring this about. How can I help? > & Reliance still do not support Linux openly. Their sales guys do not even > know what Linux is. I know my problem of connecting can be fixed by my LUG > friends but success will be when support is widely available from these Or from a single source of support. I need to identify vendors in India who are providing FOSS services to add to Open Source Support Exchange (1), an initiative that I think can help increasing OSS adoption rates in India. (1) http://www.venkatmangudi.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=33
Re: [silk] Fwd: FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
Is rice the best grain / food that can be given for its price vs performance (i.e) nutrition (primarily). IIRC, spirulina was supposed to become inexpensive and accessible when it attained scale, like if it became a staple diet of many. Sadly it's still a food for the rich. Cheeni On Dec 18, 2007 4:17 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > why just hope? why not do the calculation, and know? > > > > > > how many grains of rice make a bowl? > > About a hundred or so in a heaped teaspoonful of rice. Raw rice. Which then > swells to about double the volume when cooked. > > You'd have to spend quite some time there to provide a snack to a small kid, > let alone a full grown man. > > > -- Cheeni Q: Why is this email 5 sentences or fewer? A: http://five.sentenc.es/
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Valsa Williams wrote: > Besides just the free software, awareness campaigns should be loud and > pervasive. I just got a new laptop with Ubuntu 7.10. ISPs like Tata Indicom > & Reliance still do not support Linux openly. Their sales guys do not even > know what Linux is. I know my problem of connecting can be fixed by my LUG > friends but success will be when support is widely available from these > vendors. Similarly websites that only open with IE ! Awareness without commitment from vendors in terms of putting engineering resources to sustain the drivers is not going to take desktop penetration to any amount of "next" level. (read: I am still yet to know what this particular next level is) ISPs like Reliance and Tata Indicom source their PCMCIA cards from ODMs - - so who gets to latch on to ODMs and get them to engineer, maintain and support the drivers for their cards with super funky PCI IDs ? As regards websites ... ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHZ6feXQZpNTcrCzMRAsllAJ9KU6R7YaeOJiBuFjmWnHPbi1ifUQCePwZm tgPeoQLWzBFdOHeTX4UPz6g= =U0aj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On 18/12/2007, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > o how does supporting free software take pc penetration to next level ? Presumably by reducing the cost associated with a reasonably-featured PC, so that more and more people can afford one (or several). > o what is the next level ? More penetration? :) Say more Internet-accessible computers per 1000 of population? Or buzzwords like E-governance etc. actually working? > o is free software the reason desktop pc prices are falling ? Not sure, I imagine the cost of a PC required to run Vista is several times more than one required to just run XP, so there isn't actually a fall in PC prices. > o how relevant are these polls ? Irrelevant. I voted in this one about ten times by just deleting a cookie after every vote. Binand
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ashok _ wrote: > You would still need to buy a Windows license to run that build of > OpenOffice > when you can run it for free on a Linux distro :) What happens when there is a preloaded Windows at a pittance (and official at that) ? > Also think of a smaller scenario like a mom-and-pop cyber cafe with 10 > computers, > if they had to buy licenses for everything from the OS to the Office > suite its gonna hurt > their margins. When they can run a free distro on lower specced > hardware without having to > scale up hardware everytime a new release of windows pops up Given that most mom and pop shops assemble their H/W - how much effective is a Linux distribution in terms of hardware compatibility ? And why is an online desktop scenario not ideal for them ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHZ6dVXQZpNTcrCzMRAsuKAJ9sS9RIAWC12eVDC2agrxeKpmXCEwCfdvkj ah+cs/tm6exJB6rnkmIz4vs= =/oti -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On Dec 18, 2007 3:38 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > > > I would say that FOSS can be "very helpful" (though not "necessary") > > in taking PC penetration to the next level because it provides legal > > and affordable alternatives to expensive proprietary software. Today, > > I can buy a PC for Rs 10,000 but buying a proprietary office suite > > will cost me another 12,000 rupees. That's the reason why HDFC, ICICI > > and many others are moving to OpenOffice. > > Well the same office suite does have a Windows build does it not ? So, > are HDFC, ICICI the "next" level ? It is replacing one layer of proprietary software. Hopefully, the OS will be replaced next! >How does the notion of online > presence provided by Mugshot/OLPC fit in ? Why do you ask such complicated questions :-) Venky
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
Besides just the free software, awareness campaigns should be loud and pervasive. I just got a new laptop with Ubuntu 7.10. ISPs like Tata Indicom & Reliance still do not support Linux openly. Their sales guys do not even know what Linux is. I know my problem of connecting can be fixed by my LUG friends but success will be when support is widely available from these vendors. Similarly websites that only open with IE ! On Dec 18, 2007 4:13 PM, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 18, 2007 1:08 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > > Well the same office suite does have a Windows build does it not ? So, > > are HDFC, ICICI the "next" level ? How does the notion of online > > presence provided by Mugshot/OLPC fit in ? > > > > You would still need to buy a Windows license to run that build of > OpenOffice > when you can run it for free on a Linux distro :) > > Also think of a smaller scenario like a mom-and-pop cyber cafe with 10 > computers, > if they had to buy licenses for everything from the OS to the Office > suite its gonna hurt > their margins. When they can run a free distro on lower specced > hardware without having to > scale up hardware everytime a new release of windows pops up > > -- Valsa
Re: [silk] Fwd: FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
> > why just hope? why not do the calculation, and know? > > > > how many grains of rice make a bowl? About a hundred or so in a heaped teaspoonful of rice. Raw rice. Which then swells to about double the volume when cooked. You'd have to spend quite some time there to provide a snack to a small kid, let alone a full grown man.
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On Dec 18, 2007 1:08 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Well the same office suite does have a Windows build does it not ? So, > are HDFC, ICICI the "next" level ? How does the notion of online > presence provided by Mugshot/OLPC fit in ? > You would still need to buy a Windows license to run that build of OpenOffice when you can run it for free on a Linux distro :) Also think of a smaller scenario like a mom-and-pop cyber cafe with 10 computers, if they had to buy licenses for everything from the OS to the Office suite its gonna hurt their margins. When they can run a free distro on lower specced hardware without having to scale up hardware everytime a new release of windows pops up
[silk] Fwd: FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
De : Dave Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date : 18 décembre 2007 11:41:51 GMT+01:00 À : silklist@lists.hserus.net Objet : Rép : [silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ... Valsa...I just spent TWENTY minutes there and I hope that was enough rice to feed at least one child! why just hope? why not do the calculation, and know? how many grains of rice make a bowl? -Dave
Re: [silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
>From the FAQ : " In addition to providing food, the World Food Program helps hungry people to become self-reliant so that they escape hunger for good. Wherever possible, the World Food Program buys food locally to support local farmers and the local economy. " if the WFP were really doing that... then they wouldnt be in existence anymore. On Dec 18, 2007 12:49 PM, Valsa Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *Read on … http://www.freerice.com/ * > > * * > Cheers ! > > Valsa >
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > I would say that FOSS can be "very helpful" (though not "necessary") > in taking PC penetration to the next level because it provides legal > and affordable alternatives to expensive proprietary software. Today, > I can buy a PC for Rs 10,000 but buying a proprietary office suite > will cost me another 12,000 rupees. That's the reason why HDFC, ICICI > and many others are moving to OpenOffice. Well the same office suite does have a Windows build does it not ? So, are HDFC, ICICI the "next" level ? How does the notion of online presence provided by Mugshot/OLPC fit in ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHZ5weXQZpNTcrCzMRAj7XAJ4wofg792IOr3NJn74E3osi8BAdJACgslV0 Vl+e39okI6YYa4PzDMv87oQ= =Cs2q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
Very interesting concept. And so completely addictive. I see myself spending most of my free time there. If only they had also made it a little competitive so that you could compare scores with other friends and invite them to compete, I can see many more people participating for a longer time. Nishant On Dec 18, 2007 3:27 PM, Deepa Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 18, 2007 3:19 PM, Valsa Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Read on … http://www.freerice.com/ * > > > > * * > > Cheers ! > > > > Valsa > > > > > Valsa...I just spent TWENTY minutes there and I hope that was enough > rice to feed at least one child! > > Thanks, will be visiting often. What an enjoyable way to do something > nice! > > Deepa. > > -- Nishant Shah Ph.D. Student, CSCS, Bangalore. Project Manager, COMAT, Bangalore. # 0-9740074884
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
On Dec 18, 2007 2:38 PM, Venkat Mangudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Done... > > 89% say yes... We should support FOSS. But then, is it necessary to take > PC penetration to the next level? I am not so sure about that. > > Should India support free software to take PC penetration to the next level? > Yes 89% > No 10% > Can't say 1% I would say that FOSS can be "very helpful" (though not "necessary") in taking PC penetration to the next level because it provides legal and affordable alternatives to expensive proprietary software. Today, I can buy a PC for Rs 10,000 but buying a proprietary office suite will cost me another 12,000 rupees. That's the reason why HDFC, ICICI and many others are moving to OpenOffice. Venky
Re: [silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
On Dec 18, 2007 3:19 PM, Valsa Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *Read on … http://www.freerice.com/ * > > * * > Cheers ! > > Valsa > Valsa...I just spent TWENTY minutes there and I hope that was enough rice to feed at least one child! Thanks, will be visiting often. What an enjoyable way to do something nice! Deepa.
[silk] FREE RICE ... an amazing concept to harness the power of Internet advertising ...for a great cause ...
*Read on … http://www.freerice.com/ * * * Cheers ! Valsa
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > Since there are many FOSS enthusiasts on this mailing list, let me > take the liberty of pointing out that today's Economic Times has an > online poll that asks, "Should India support free software to take PC > penetration to the next level?" o how does supporting free software take pc penetration to next level ? o what is the next level ? o is free software the reason desktop pc prices are falling ? o how relevant are these polls ? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHZ5FuXQZpNTcrCzMRAlnMAJ0aruiAlNkZkpPLIeu1g3yYddTPegCgssuG Fzx+ehL+fIj+TsQbRw72PhI= =5A/G -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
Done... 89% say yes... We should support FOSS. But then, is it necessary to take PC penetration to the next level? I am not so sure about that. Should India support free software to take PC penetration to the next level? Yes 89% No 10% Can't say 1% Venkatesh Hariharan wrote: > Since there are many FOSS enthusiasts on this mailing list, let me > take the liberty of pointing out that today's Economic Times has an > online poll that asks, "Should India support free software to take PC > penetration to the next level?" > > Please login to www.economictimes.com and scroll down to the voting > section on the right hand side of the web page and vote. This vote > will be on only today, so please vote at the earliest. And it goes > without saying that I hope you will vote "Yes." > > :-) > > Venky > >
[silk] Today's ET poll on Free Software
Since there are many FOSS enthusiasts on this mailing list, let me take the liberty of pointing out that today's Economic Times has an online poll that asks, "Should India support free software to take PC penetration to the next level?" Please login to www.economictimes.com and scroll down to the voting section on the right hand side of the web page and vote. This vote will be on only today, so please vote at the earliest. And it goes without saying that I hope you will vote "Yes." :-) Venky
