RE: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions--"pennies per gallon myth"
I don't have time to figure it up right now, but I am confidant that I
could have bought good silver sol---of any method a whole bunch cheaper
than what It has cost me to make the sol I have used ---you if you value my
time as low as $10 per hour. Then there is all the stuff. But it is
mainly the time.
I don't regret a moment.
To be able to produce a very user-ignorance-tolerant superwide spectrum
general-purpose antibiotic with additional bio-electrical healing
facilitation when the trucks aren't running is a very satisfying feeling.
Drink it, spray it, squirt it, snort it, and, even sometimes perhaps,
inject it. I don't regret not having cold sores anymore, either. Say,
aren't cold sores caused by a viron? You say the fungus just went away and
the forest service had said the tree would definitely die?...
James Osbourne, Holmes
a...@trail.com
-Original Message-
From: Mike Marr [SMTP:m...@clarkandclark.com]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 8:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
On Friday, August 27, 1999 1:40 PM, elma...@aol.com wrote:
>
>Date: 27-Aug-1999 14:40:09 -0400
>From: elma...@aol.com
>To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
>Subject: Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
>
>Hi Ho,
> Is this a good price?
>
>HVAC Colloidal Silver
>. 10-12 PPM, 16 Ounce amber Glass Bottle: $20.00 Delivered (inside the
>Continental US)
>
>Sincerely,
>Bob
>
Good price if buying retail, terrible compared to making your own.
Mike M.
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Re: CS>re pH & digestion
At 06:17 8/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >Dr. Reams - I will find out the particulars), another book called, "The >curse causeless shall not come", by another person whom I will know his >name within 2 weeks (it's being sent to me). Nord Davis, I believe is the author. Billvan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
Bob, My guess is this is from CSPro. Yes it is a good price and yes it is a great product. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re:angstroms
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Re: CS>buying CS
How do you know what size they are??? Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re[2]: CS and braces
j> The question about CS and braces and dentures makes me wonder if it j> would harm metal fillings. Discoloration wouldn't matter but wouldn't j> want to harm my fillings from swishng CS or if there would be a chemical j> reaction that would release something toxic. John Your metal fillings are toxic to begin with. How could a non-toxic element like silver make them more so? Sam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re[2]: CS>mold/cs experiments
Penicillin is mold toxin, not mold. The fact that it kills bacteria doesn't make its source impervious to CS. Mold toxins have their own toxic effect on humans ( read Hulda Clark), so to replace them with CS and to also destroy their makers where they're not wanted is a double blessing. Sam >>I don't understand the theory behind the "mold" test. If mold led to the >>discovery of penicillin because mold has antibiotic properties or is a type >>of antibiotic (I really don't know, as I haven't done the research), and >>colloidal silver doesn't have any interactions with antibiotics, then how >>would it be able to do anything to mold? >> >>Yours in health, >>James Allison CK> I dunno, CK> I spray the shower curtain with CS, No more mold! CK> Chuck CK> Avoid computer viruses--practice safe hex -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Distilled water
Hi Ya'All, "Ole Bob", is going to stir the pot again. I see all of the "wizz-bangy" things going on on this list and no one has any idea as to the ppm that they are making nor the particle size of the CS. A lot of effort is being made to reinvent the wheel. There are some nice polarity switching being done with a $35.00 microprocess that has replaced a $2.00 worth of two Ics, two resistor, and one capacitor. That sound like regression to me. There has been no mention as to the initial current with your brand of DW. I have three brands availble in K.C.,MO. Wal-Mart (not all W-M DW comes from Hazelwood, Mo.), Hinckley & Schmitt, and Absopure. My Wal-Mart has a initial (Ic) current of .28 ma, Hinkley & Schmitt, Ic is .30, and Absopure is 1.18. For a fixed time of brew the Absopure will make a ppm about twice to three times the strength as the others. If you are not plotting the data (current vs time) and then getting a ppm measurement you are wandering around in no man's land. Tomorrow I will post a chart of Absopure as a pcx file. Until then. Adios, "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re[2]: CS>new to silver
Another household staple that is VERY effective for fungal and yeast infections is good ole vinegar, full strength on the feet, diluted in more sensitive areas. My wife found it quite curative for her internal bloom of whatever (yeast, monila, godzilla) though a bit stingy at full strength. woo. Castor oil is also a very powerful antifungal and in fact is the source of the active ingredient in most antifungal medications. It's a lot slower than vinegar but very soothing if you have an open rash. HP can also be quite painful on an open rash or infected cut and can burn tissue and cause scarring, though it is devastating to the little critters. Sam >> Howard: I hate to burst the CS bubble on jock itch, but actually, plain >> old peroxide works faster and better. It will clear up a patch in 24 hours >> or so. If the itch is in a crease, just put a cotton puff saturated in >> peroxide in the crease on top of the rash. If the rash is located in a more >> open area, put a bandaid or gauze pad over the patch (depending on its size) >> and soak with peroxide. Usually, the fungus that causes this is anaerobic, >> and the presence of an oxygen-saturated solution is more than it can handle. >> Good luck. >> >> Liz HC> LIZ: HC> Thanks, good of you to respond. Your suggestion is quite logical, especially considering the HC> anaerobic thing. Now why didn't I think of that??? HC> Yet another case of big BIZ hiding the simpler truths so they, in this case, can foist Tinactin, et HC> al, (expensive & ineffective) onto an unsuspecting public! HC> I believe I HAVE seen some improvement with hi-falutin store-bought CS, which I applied with cotton HC> ball 2-3 times daily for only 2 daysbut was still dubious. HC> More later HC> Thanks Liz & all list folks HC> Howard C. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>buying CS
- Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 5:31 PM Subject: RE: CS>buying CS > Exactly what size are your particles? > > James Osbourne, Holmes If she's using 3 nine volt batteries, and 3 nine volt batteries only, her particles are breaking off the silver at 1.26 angstroms. Yours in health, James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>buying CS
Exactly what size are your particles? James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Janine [SMTP:janin...@icehouse.net] Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 7:27 AM To: CS list Subject:CS>buying CS Why would anyone want to buy CS with an unknown content when you can make it youself so simpy, cheaply, and you know EXACTLY what is in it? I trust myself more than some manufacturer who is in it for the money. Maybe they don't know how simple, safe and foolproof the method is? For the record all it is is 2 pure fine silver wires attached by wires to an electric source(9 volt batteries) and then placed in distilled water for a specified amt. of time. How could it be any simpler, cheaper, or safer? After researching CS I would definitely NOT buy it from some manufacturer! Thanks Marsha, I got my wires today. Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>My First Batch
Well, I got my CS generator today and just made my first batch. I wish I could say I knew what I'm doing but I can't. It looks fine and I'm going on the presumption that it is. I didn't know about the cheaper approach until I got on the list so I paid 65 dollars for mine. It took less than an hour till the generator shut off so I unplugged it and replugged it and it promptly stopped again so I figured it was "done". http://www5.icat.com/store/silverdog/index.icl?execute=index.icl&Colocode=icat It was cheaper than some I've looked at and not as cheap as making one's own. It looks quite nice and in a self-contained package that can also be run off of batteries. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS in the cat v. homeopathy
I've been treating my cat's wounds from fights for the last 10 years with homeopathic remedies, and haven't had to pay a vet bill for that type of thing in all of that time. There is a book widely available on homeopathy and pets. It is easy to use, the remedies cost very little and last years. All one has to do is to crumble the tablets between two spoons, and put the powder in the cat's mouth. Four times a day, for a few days...it's done. No abcesses, no cleaning out wounds, even. Hope this helps... a last gasp, couldn't resist, just before Mike pulls the plug, Taylor << My cat tends to go limp when he's held by the scruff of the neck, but my fiancee' is always ready to lend an extra pair of hands. I find that when the cat's wounds are near/on the his head/neck (the usual spots), he's almost grateful for the attention. He did have one on his tail that made it look broken & was extremely sensitive about that one. That was definitely a two-person job! :o) There is always the old "Roll-em-up-in-a-towel" method, too. >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>my new cs gen
Pam: Thanks for that. I really was a little nervous about getting started making my own! Even though I have seen improvement in my athletes foot & "jock itch" by simply spraying with the healthstore's brand twice a day for ONLY 2 DAYS! Amazing! But thank you, I'll have less trepidation now as I venture into this brand new territory, Howard C. Pam Whitmire wrote: > Howard, > While I'm certainly no expert, I too bought my generator from Allison's. I > followed the instructions > and have been doing fine with mine. The only thing I didn't do, and the > others can tell you more on > this, is use the saline. I did the first time and my water was an odd silvery > color that never cleared > so I was scared to use it. Could have just been me and something I did. But > when I use the gen, > cleaning the rods off and on for about 3 hours (for a quart) everything is > lovely. And if you have > questions you can always call Mr. Vernon, he is an extremely nice and helpful > person! > Pam > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Caution to New Members!!
"M. G. Devour" wrote: > > Hi everyone, and especially any newer list members! > > I just wanted to caution you: Even though the "techies" among us are > having a jolly good time hashing over Victoria's experiments with > tiny computers and various other high tech gizmos for making > CS, *YOU* don't have to be that sophisitcated! > > The consensus here is that even the simplest setups are enough to > brew your own CS. The basic 2 silver wires and a battery connected > with clipleads will do it with the right technique. Folks have used > the resulting product and reported long term success. > [ ... ] > So don't let us tinkerers fool you into thinking this stuff is > beyond you. It's not. We just want to learn how to make the most > reliable, convenient, and useful devices possible. But, they > represent the refinement of simpler systems that *ALREADY WORK!!* As one of those tinkerers I agree with Mike most emphatically. "Good enough" is pretty easy and CHEAP. I am not sure there is any point at all in all the experimenting I am doing, perhaps I will just ultimately convince myself that Mikes comments above are as far as I need to go :-). Technology if it is useful, not just for the sake of the technology. The point of it all: Be well! Take care, Vikki. -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net "Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen" - Edward V. Berard. Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Making CS
G'Day Bob :-), >Perhaps you can come up with a standard procedure for making CS in a > simple easy to follow uncomplicated way. Well, this is something I have seen a LOT of out there, mostly for commercial machines. I am sure these people have made some effort in the matter to do just this. The more unknowns the more random the PPM. Perhaps with their testing to determine these things, we can assume (!??!?!) that is the reason that the devices that they sell are $60+ rather than $10 for the three batteries, jumper clips and silver wire :-). I haven't purchased any of them, I'm using the $10 approach and bitching about having no idea of what I am producing (although it certainly seems like good stuff(TM:) :-). However, not all of those in need have $60+ to spend, there have been times in my life when $60 was a fantastic amount of . So I do think that this line of research does have merit... I also know that there are people out there who have been terrified into being afraid of what humans have done since time immemorial, namely "making medicine". In the USA (possibly less so elsewhere in the world) "witches", "root women", shamans, witch doctors, midwives, crones and the like do this all the time and with more effectiveness than the $75/visit MDs want us to know about. These people are afraid and justly so, there are a great many "medicines" that can be fatal in improper dosage. We have a WONDERFUL natural thing here, but the AMA is fighting it along with the drug companies (CS is not patentable, so they can't charge $1000 for an application), but we are only able to communicate it in the most vague (and unacceptable (until they are so sick that they have nothing to loose to try it)) terms. We know it works and how easy it is to make, but about all we can say is "take it on blind faith", people are leary of this, they did that with the conventional medical establishment also... I think that this communication problem (and AMA/FDA/drug company FUD) makes people wait until they are ready to die before being willing to try it and of course, by then, it is a crap shoot... Think of what we might be able to do if this were not so. Sorry to be expressing my frusteration here, it is kind of out of place. > > * Something like; A 12oz glass with an inside diameter of 3 1/2" > [ ... ] > ^^ This should yield a xxppm with a particle size of . to . And this is the "rub". Unless I just haven't found this for the absolute base generator design (3-9V and 2 silver wires) this does not exist other than vaguely at best. I have not looked at the differences in "Distilled Water" yet. I've seen a couple pieces of data that would leave me to think that there are "significant differences" between brands, although I must admit this confuses me. I had *assumed* (you know how that goes :) that Distilled Water was just pure water with all the impurities distilled out and would thus "all be the same". At this point I have not investigated this so I don't know what to say. I purchased 4 gallons of Distilled Water from the grocery store (all same brand and probably the same batch) and now being into the third gallon (just), the starting current flow has stayed VERY constant. If, one distilled water brand has higher conductive properties than another this will mean a difference in PPM and particle size for the same electrodes and the same current flow, it would seem. Making something that is useful appears to be trivial, but knowing what that is that you made (nn PPM) is the problem which makes: > ^^ Most people are comfortable with a maintenance dose of ___ ^^twice a day, > Double or triple that when trying to combat a ^^health crises. problimatical with those that are used to "hard dosage values" that are hard to convince. There has to be some way (other than blind faith) to determine this so we can communicate effectively. CS *certainly appears* to be something with a very wide dosage spread... I go back and forth on this :-) I feel like all this investigation and research is wasted time since 45 minutes with 3-9V batteries and 2 silver wires seems to be "good enough", there are certainly enough testimonials to back this up. Dunno. Good CS seems to be more than easy, provable content seems to get *very* expensive *very* quickly (more so for some of us than others). Is there a point? Re-inventing the wheel is something I try to avoid. As a tinkerer, however, I am having a good time and perhaps even learning something :-). > >Like you are looking for. Something easy to build and easy to run, but > with fairly predictable results. >It would work for me and probably a lot of people. >Vikki, thank you for what you are doing. I pray God bless you with > motivation, wisdom, decrement, knowledge and resources. I just stand on the shoulders of giants :-). Thanks & take c
Re: CS>Caution to New Members!!
Well thank God there's still room for us simple folks :-) Who was that that said they were a technoretard? I must be her twin. But I have to say, I still enjoy reading Victoria's postings - I believe she's about to revolutionize CS making! Not to mention giving the old techies around here new stuff to toss around over our heads. You go, girl! Pam :-) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Caution to New Members!!
Hi everyone, and especially any newer list members! I just wanted to caution you: Even though the "techies" among us are having a jolly good time hashing over Victoria's experiments with tiny computers and various other high tech gizmos for making CS, *YOU* don't have to be that sophisitcated! The consensus here is that even the simplest setups are enough to brew your own CS. The basic 2 silver wires and a battery connected with clipleads will do it with the right technique. Folks have used the resulting product and reported long term success. You can buy simple low voltage CS generators from many sources. Shop around and you'll find more sophisticated electronics and bells and whistles for not much more than the basic stuff. Then there's the nearly bulletproof high voltage systems like those from CSPro that cost a lot more but have a justifiably good reputation. And, you can buy a ready made CS from a number of vendors who people here have used and recommended, or even from a few of our members who manufacture CS to sell. (Conduct your business off-list, however!!!) So don't let us tinkerers fool you into thinking this stuff is beyond you. It's not. We just want to learn how to make the most reliable, convenient, and useful devices possible. But, they represent the refinement of simpler systems that *ALREADY WORK!!* Be well, all! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>my new cs gen
Howard, While I'm certainly no expert, I too bought my generator from Allison's. I followed the instructions and have been doing fine with mine. The only thing I didn't do, and the others can tell you more on this, is use the saline. I did the first time and my water was an odd silvery color that never cleared so I was scared to use it. Could have just been me and something I did. But when I use the gen, cleaning the rods off and on for about 3 hours (for a quart) everything is lovely. And if you have questions you can always call Mr. Vernon, he is an extremely nice and helpful person! Pam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and braces
The question about CS and braces and dentures makes me wonder if it would harm metal fillings. Discoloration wouldn't matter but wouldn't want to harm my fillings from swishng CS or if there would be a chemical reaction that would release something toxic. John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Making CS
Vikki, Perhaps you can come up with a standard procedure for making CS in a simple easy to follow uncomplicated way. * Something like; A 12oz glass with an inside diameter of 3 1/2" * 14 guage .999 silver wire *3 9 volt batteries * Distilled Water * 1 black jumper wire (description) *1 red jumper wire (description) *Put 10 oz of DW into the glass. *Put each silver wire over opposite sides of the glass, hook 1/2" *over the edge of the glass *Hook red jumper wire to a silver wire *Hook black jumper wire to the silver wire *Hook up the 3 9 volt batteries (describe) Hook the wires up (describe) *Look for these signs... ^^ After 15 min. remove one battery (describe) ^^ Reconnect with 2 batteries (describe) ^^ After a total of 45 min. disconnect another battery (describe) ^^ Reconnect with 1 battery (describe) ^^ After 2 hours disconnect jumper leads. (describe) UNLESS ^^ This should yield a xxppm with a particle size of . to . ^^ Most people are comfortable with a maintenance dose of ___ ^^twice a day, Double or triple that when trying to combat a ^^health crises. Like you are looking for. Something easy to build and easy to run, but with fairly predictable results. It would work for me and probably a lot of people. Vikki, thank you for what you are doing. I pray God bless you with motivation, wisdom, decrement, knowledge and resources. Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>food poisioning
Hi, Janine, > I was wondering if anyone has any experience using CS for food > poisioning-either Salmonella or E. Coli? I have had so many > bouts of this that I am desparate to find something to help. I > am very cautious what I eat > and have gotten to the point of trying not to eat much at all! > I think much > of our food supply is dangerous. How do you know it is Salmonella or E.Coli? I suffered from "food poisonings" all my life. Finally I discovered I had completely disturbed and unbalanced flora and parasites. It just comes in cycles. Get your CDSA/CP done and you will be amazed (www.gsdl.com) Zhanna. __ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>stir
Is it necessary to stir CS before using it? Also is 1.5 hrs. for 1 quart an acceptable time frame? thanks Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: biocircuits
In response to my request for a buicircuits source, Dennis Page from nz sent me this site: www.tools4explore.com Even if you're not interested in biocircuits, check out this site anyway, it's fantastic. It also everything you want in biocircuits. Thanks, Dennis. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>my new cs gen
Hello to all good folks of the list:
While the discussion is on buying gens & cs:
Can anyone assure me , if I follow the instructions enclosed with my gen from
"Allison's
Apothecary" on the internet ("Home of the $49.95 Colloidal Silver
Generator"http://apothecary.hypermart.net/) that I can feel confident that I
should be getting the
right micron size to use safely & effectively ?
Sorry, but I, too, feeling a little sheepish about making my own as yet..
Thanks to all
Howard (new to the list just 2 days now!)
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CS>buying CS
Why would anyone want to buy CS with an unknown content when you can make it youself so simpy, cheaply, and you know EXACTLY what is in it? I trust myself more than some manufacturer who is in it for the money. Maybe they don't know how simple, safe and foolproof the method is? For the record all it is is 2 pure fine silver wires attached by wires to an electric source(9 volt batteries) and then placed in distilled water for a specified amt. of time. How could it be any simpler, cheaper, or safer? After researching CS I would definitely NOT buy it from some manufacturer! Thanks Marsha, I got my wires today. Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
re: CS in the cat
My cat tends to go limp when he's held by the scruff of the neck, but my fiancee' is always ready to lend an extra pair of hands. I find that when the cat's wounds are near/on the his head/neck (the usual spots), he's almost grateful for the attention. He did have one on his tail that made it look broken & was extremely sensitive about that one. That was definitely a two-person job! :o) There is always the old "Roll-em-up-in-a-towel" method, too. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Making CS
Mike Marr wrote: > >> Good price if buying retail, terrible compared to making your own. > > > >Really! I was just making a batch and thinking about that. I've made a > >gallon or two over the past week (10 oz at a time :) and was wondering > >if even the electricity used was over a penny yet. If the electrodes > >are worn at all, I sure can't tell. Just for jollies, I pulled out my > >micrometer and they are still .040 :-). > >-- > >Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, > >vikki.oz.net > > That's why I make my own. I'm comfortable enough with the product and I > like being able to make enough to fill two liter bottles for pennies on > the FRN's. Agree, the suprising thing is that it is *SO* easy to do. While I can not quantify what I am making, I am producing "good stuff". Fortunately there is such a wide range of acceptability (or the body these days with our depleted soils is so desperate for real minerals that it makes the best of almost whatever you make). > PS - Keep up the good posts Vikki. I love the way the 'wave' of > information lifts us all along the way. Trying :-). Currently back to experimenting with the VLVAC (Very Low Voltage (5V) one minute polarity reversing AC). I am planning on about once an hour stirring and taking an eyedropperful out to taste since the previous "failed batch" done this way had no Tyndal effect but a "solid" CS taste. If this method turns out to be reliable and not to take too horribly long, using a BS1 or (MUCH cheaper) equivalent program programmed into a Pic would make for the cheapest and easiest generator I have seen yet. Not to mention that it would practically run "forever" off a single 9V battery. Further research updates to follow :-). Fun stuff, good stuff, healthy stuff, easy to make stuff - hard to beat :-). Thanks & take care, Vikki. -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net "Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen" - Edward V. Berard. Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Making CS
On Friday, August 27, 1999 2:31 PM, Victoria Welch wrote:
>
>Date: 27-Aug-1999 12:31:58 -0700
>From: Victoria Welch
>To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
>Subject: Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
>
>> Good price if buying retail, terrible compared to making your own.
>
>Really! I was just making a batch and thinking about that. I've made a
>gallon or two over the past week (10 oz at a time :) and was wondering
>if even the electricity used was over a penny yet. If the electrodes
>are worn at all, I sure can't tell. Just for jollies, I pulled out my
>micrometer and they are still .040 :-).
>--
>Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org,
>vikki.oz.net
That's why I make my own. I'm comfortable enough with the product and I
like being able to make enough to fill two liter bottles for pennies on
the FRN's.
Mike M.
PS - Keep up the good posts Vikki. I love the way the 'wave' of
information lifts us all along the way.
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Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
Mike Marr wrote: > > [ ... ] > >Hi Ho, > > Is this a good price? > > > >HVAC Colloidal Silver > > 10-12 PPM, 16 Ounce amber Glass Bottle: $20.00 Delivered (inside the > >Continental US) > > > >Sincerely, > >Bob > > > Good price if buying retail, terrible compared to making your own. Really! I was just making a batch and thinking about that. I've made a gallon or two over the past week (10 oz at a time :) and was wondering if even the electricity used was over a penny yet. If the electrodes are worn at all, I sure can't tell. Just for jollies, I pulled out my micrometer and they are still .040 :-). -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net "Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen" - Edward V. Berard. Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
On Friday, August 27, 1999 1:40 PM, elma...@aol.com wrote:
>
>Date: 27-Aug-1999 14:40:09 -0400
>From: elma...@aol.com
>To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
>Subject: Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
>
>Hi Ho,
> Is this a good price?
>
>HVAC Colloidal Silver
> 10-12 PPM, 16 Ounce amber Glass Bottle: $20.00 Delivered (inside the
>Continental US)
>
>Sincerely,
>Bob
>
Good price if buying retail, terrible compared to making your own.
Mike M.
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Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
Hi Ho, Is this a good price? HVAC Colloidal Silver 10-12 PPM, 16 Ounce amber Glass Bottle: $20.00 Delivered (inside the Continental US) Sincerely, Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>NEW pH list starting...
Dear Vilik, Please put me on the PH list. Love Always, Deborah Sais Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > pH-bodybalance... > > A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and experimenting > with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health will > be starting in the fall. > All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people > welcome as well as total newbies. > > To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it starts. > > ~^^V^^~ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: cs and braces
Thank you very much. I will ask the orthodontist right away. wong...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 08/25/1999 8:02:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > pj20...@home.com writes: > > << Anyone know if it is ok to swish with cs if you are wearing braces, the > metal ones? Does it discolor the braces or the wires or bands? > >> > It depends on the metal. Your braces and wires are probably stainless steel > (ask the orthodontist) which I think won't be affected. However, I would be > more concerned over oxidation than discoloration. I have 11 implants which > are titanium and braces that are stainless steel. I swish daily and haven't > noticed discoloration. > > wong > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>More on escharotics
Thanks for the info on the escharotics. Please, how did you use the cs and cayenne near the eye? Apply topically---maybe soak cotton with cs, sprinkle on cayenne,and tape on overnight, or what? If you have time to answer I will be very grateful. If not, I understand. > William Falls wrote: > > Dear Kass, Diana, Ian & list, > I just did a search on escharotics on the web and came up with 63 > entries. Of course, most of the url's are repetitions, but there were > about 26 different ones! > Kass, I don't remember reading anything about Indian Mud. Could you > give us the contact info on that source? > The one I have, and I think is very good is HerbVeil 8. I got mine > from Healing Leaves in Washington state. Their e-mail is > ,hlea...@plix.com or call (509) 738-2177. Rob McClintock there is > very helpful and knowledgeable about herbs and treatments. His is a > medical missionary ministry. You can also get HerbVeil 8 from the > website- but I like to order from Rob and support > his radio program, medical missionary training seminars & out-reach. > The Cansema salve is also on the list but the most url's related to > Dr. Ingrid Naiman at www.cancersalves.com . > She has a terrific amount of background & education infor- > mation on escharotics on her site. And some cautions on using the > black salves, particularly on your face or extensive areas, because > sometimes it badly scars. ( That's why I think the gentler salve & > healing cream of herbveil 8 might be better). Dr. Ingrid ( not a med. > doctor- but received two honorary doctorates- one for her work in the > field of escharotics. ) makes gentler products too, without the > caustic ingredients like zinc chloride that are in most escharotics. I > think it would be important to peruse her site before one buys or uses > black salve in any visible area or extensive area of their body. I do > not agree with her other website and any references to astrology or > mysticism, but you will find a wealth of information on health, even > on parasites, & microwaving, as well as all the history and education > on escharotics on her website. So wanted you all to be aware of it and > check it out. > There are other sites mentioned I haven't checked out yet, but found > that one to be valuable and massive. > Some of you may be familiar with Dr. David Williams' newsletter called > Alternatives. He also has an escharotic called "SkinAnswer" that > comes from Australia. If anyone wants that information, just ask for > it on the list, or e-mail me. > Sorry this is so long, but I have been studying into and exper- > imenting with remedies for skin cancer for a long time. And, I should > mention that I have received the most help, just recently by using CS > and Cayenne. ( I believe in escharotics, but my lesion was too close > to my eye, so I didn't feel they would be safely used). So I have > tried lots of other things- and lots of other things work too- they > are just slower and don't always finish the job. Really, it's we that > don't finish the job- it's hard to stay focused on the problem and > consistently work on it. Well, thank you all for your postings. We > learn so much from each other. God bless you all- Appreciatively, Cora -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Do we have an archive?
Mr. Devour, Thank you for looking into the archive set up. You are very generous to do this and are to be highly commended for it. M. G. Devour wrote: > > Thea and list, > > I'm working on getting an archive set up. > > I made the initial contact and am waiting for them to respond. If > all goes well, I'll be able to get the last two years' of messages > cleaned up and posted within a week or so, best guess. > > In the meantime, Thea, if you want to contact me off-list at > mdev...@id.net I can do a search of my hard disk archive for you. I > don't want to do that a lot, but if you've got something specific > you're looking for I'll try to help. > > Be well, all! > > Mike D. > > > Hi list, > > > > Do we have an archive? I'd like to be able to access specific > > information if we do! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Thea > > > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
In a message dated 8/27/1999 1:01:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, m...@clarkandclark.com writes: << Check csprosystems at www.csprosystems.com. I think you'll like the price and the quality is good. I used the CS in 16 oz. bottles until I was comfortable making my own. Hope this helps. Mike M. I will second that one on the CSProgreat product for a great price. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
re: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
On Friday, August 27, 1999 10:44 AM, Susan A. wrote:
>
>Date: 27-Aug-1999 11:44:46 -0400
>From: Susan A.
>To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
>Subject: CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
>
>I do not yet feel comfortable making this on my own. (Give me some
>time:) Can anyone recommend a top grade product? I would like to find
>one that is 3-5 ppm and .0001 microns.
>
>Thanks!
>Susan
>
Check csprosystems at www.csprosystems.com. I think you'll like the
price and the quality is good. I used the CS in 16 oz. bottles until I
was comfortable making my own. Hope this helps.
Mike M.
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CS>Re: Introduction and some questions
Thanks to everyone who replied to my post with valuable information and url's. My son has been on his Source Naturals 10 ppm product for 4 1/2 days and looks GREAT. I know this is not permanent. When he reacts to something it will start over again. Its just that I really feel he had a staph infection besides and now he is clear. I do not yet feel comfortable making this on my own. (Give me some time:) Can anyone recommend a top grade product? I would like to find one that is 3-5 ppm and .0001 microns. Thanks! Susan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>NEW pH list starting...
Please let me know when the PH list starts. > -Original Message- > From: Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 4:39 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>NEW pH list starting... > > pH-bodybalance... > > A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and > experimenting > with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health > will > be starting in the fall. > All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people > welcome as well as total newbies. > > To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it > starts. > > ~^^V^^~ > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>re pH & digestion
Thanks so much, Terry. There's no way around it...I've got to immerse myself in this stuff. I'll be in touch. Please email me privately when you figure out how to test long distance, ok? Best wishes, Taylor << Taylor, There have been books about Dr. Reams, but none BY him. Books like, "Health guide for survival" by Salem Kirban, a book called, "Choose life or death" by I don't know who (a friend has it, plus a video about Dr. Reams - I will find out the particulars), another book called, "The curse causeless shall not come", by another person whom I will know his name within 2 weeks (it's being sent to me). Another book is actually a training book by Dr. Sandy Beddoe (one of Reams' students), but it costs US$100, and it's not worth that much (in my opinion). I have been corresponding with some of the people at Daily Manufacturing, who have access to a huge collection of Dr. Reams on audio and video tapes from when he was teaching regularly. If those became available, there would be a wealth of knowledge in them. Those are the resources I am aware of. Sincerely, Terry Wayne >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re pH & digestion
Taylor, There have been books about Dr. Reams, but none BY him. Books like, "Health guide for survival" by Salem Kirban, a book called, "Choose life or death" by I don't know who (a friend has it, plus a video about Dr. Reams - I will find out the particulars), another book called, "The curse causeless shall not come", by another person whom I will know his name within 2 weeks (it's being sent to me). Another book is actually a training book by Dr. Sandy Beddoe (one of Reams' students), but it costs US$100, and it's not worth that much (in my opinion). I have been corresponding with some of the people at Daily Manufacturing, who have access to a huge collection of Dr. Reams on audio and video tapes from when he was teaching regularly. If those became available, there would be a wealth of knowledge in them. Those are the resources I am aware of. Sincerely, Terry Wayne --- skyl...@aol.com wrote: > I just want to thank Vilik and Terry, Ivan, et al., > (if I forgot a name, > please forgive me) for the ongoing discussion about > pH/body chemistry, > minerals & digestion. This is an entirely new area > for me, but timely, > because I had just turned to it when the discussion > popped up here. It is > still 3/4 over my head, but I hope to learn to swim > soon. > > Also, thanks for the book suggestion, Michael. > > Does anyone have any other book suggestions on pH > and digestion? Does this > Reams fellow have a book that a lay person could > dicipher? (Even if highly > technical, I'd like to give it a whirl.) > > Would any dose of CS (up to 8 oz daily) affect pH in > any way? > > Thanks in advance, > Taylor > > << Oh well, check out the book: > Acid & Alkaline by Herman Aihara > ISBN 0-918860-44-X >> > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an > e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the > SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Do we have an archive?
Thea and list, I'm working on getting an archive set up. I made the initial contact and am waiting for them to respond. If all goes well, I'll be able to get the last two years' of messages cleaned up and posted within a week or so, best guess. In the meantime, Thea, if you want to contact me off-list at mdev...@id.net I can do a search of my hard disk archive for you. I don't want to do that a lot, but if you've got something specific you're looking for I'll try to help. Be well, all! Mike D. > Hi list, > > Do we have an archive? I'd like to be able to access specific > information if we do! > > Thanks, > > Thea > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: cs and braces
In a message dated 08/25/1999 8:02:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pj20...@home.com writes: << Anyone know if it is ok to swish with cs if you are wearing braces, the metal ones? Does it discolor the braces or the wires or bands? >> It depends on the metal. Your braces and wires are probably stainless steel (ask the orthodontist) which I think won't be affected. However, I would be more concerned over oxidation than discoloration. I have 11 implants which are titanium and braces that are stainless steel. I swish daily and haven't noticed discoloration. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold/cs experiments
In a message dated 08/26/1999 9:15:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: << Well that explains why it works for me. I use a spray bottle! Chuck >> Your're ingenious. wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>More on escharotics
Dear Kass, Diana, Ian & list, I just did a search on escharotics on the web and came up with 63 entries. Of course, most of the url's are repetitions, but there were about 26 different ones! Kass, I don't remember reading anything about Indian Mud. Could you give us the contact info on that source? The one I have, and I think is very good is HerbVeil 8. I got mine from Healing Leaves in Washington state. Their e-mail is ,hlea...@plix.com or call (509) 738-2177. Rob McClintock there is very helpful and knowledgeable about herbs and treatments. His is a medical missionary ministry. You can also get HerbVeil 8 from the website- but I like to order from Rob and support his radio program, medical missionary training seminars & out-reach. The Cansema salve is also on the list but the most url's related to Dr. Ingrid Naiman at www.cancersalves.com . She has a terrific amount of background & education infor- mation on escharotics on her site. And some cautions on using the black salves, particularly on your face or extensive areas, because sometimes it badly scars. ( That's why I think the gentler salve & healing cream of herbveil 8 might be better). Dr. Ingrid ( not a med. doctor- but received two honorary doctorates- one for her work in the field of escharotics. ) makes gentler products too, without the caustic ingredients like zinc chloride that are in most escharotics. I think it would be important to peruse her site before one buys or uses black salve in any visible area or extensive area of their body. I do not agree with her other website and any references to astrology or mysticism, but you will find a wealth of information on health, even on parasites, & microwaving, as well as all the history and education on escharotics on her website. So wanted you all to be aware of it and check it out. There are other sites mentioned I haven't checked out yet, but found that one to be valuable and massive. Some of you may be familiar with Dr. David Williams' newsletter called Alternatives. He also has an escharotic called "SkinAnswer" that comes from Australia. If anyone wants that information, just ask for it on the list, or e-mail me. Sorry this is so long, but I have been studying into and exper- imenting with remedies for skin cancer for a long time. And, I should mention that I have received the most help, just recently by using CS and Cayenne. ( I believe in escharotics, but my lesion was too close to my eye, so I didn't feel they would be safely used). So I have tried lots of other things- and lots of other things work too- they are just slower and don't always finish the job. Really, it's we that don't finish the job- it's hard to stay focused on the problem and consistently work on it. Well, thank you all for your postings. We learn so much from each other. God bless you all- Appreciatively, Cora
Re: CS>I'm only an email away...
Hi Taylor, Good I would really hate to loose you now Taylor,with all your wonderful adjectives. At least I know where to find you lol. Hugs, Carmen - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:45 PM Subject: CS>I'm only an email away... > Hi Carmen, > > I will be on the candida forum. Candida has to be my main focus. > > Sure, we will be in touch! I'm only an email away... > > Fondly, > Taylor > > << Dear Taylor, > > Oh I am a so sorry you are going off this list, will you still be active on > the candida list, I would hate to lose touch with you now, and I feel I have > made a real freind. > > > > Your Ausie freind, > > Carmen >> > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>NEW pH list starting...
Yes pls sign me up too for the ph group > >- Original Message - >From: CARMEN SPENCE >To: >Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 7:18 AM >Subject: Re: CS>NEW pH list starting... > > >> Hi Vilik, >> >> I would like tobe signed up for the poh list also, >> >> Thankyou \, >> >> Carmen >> - Original Message - >> From: Vilik Rapheles >> To: >> Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:39 AM >> Subject: CS>NEW pH list starting... >> >> >> > pH-bodybalance... >> > >> > A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and >> experimenting >> > with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health >> will >> > be starting in the fall. >> > All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable >people >> > welcome as well as total newbies. >> > >> > To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it >> starts. >> > >> > ~^^V^^~ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> > >> > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> > >> > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> > >> > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >Dear sir, > > Please sign me up for your New pH list. > > >With regards, > >Lew >(Malaysia) > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>NEW pH list starting...
- Original Message - From: CARMEN SPENCE To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 7:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>NEW pH list starting... > Hi Vilik, > > I would like tobe signed up for the poh list also, > > Thankyou \, > > Carmen > - Original Message - > From: Vilik Rapheles > To: > Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:39 AM > Subject: CS>NEW pH list starting... > > > > pH-bodybalance... > > > > A list for the purpose of studying, sharing, experiencing and > experimenting > > with the pH of all body fluids as indicators and predicators of health > will > > be starting in the fall. > > All and sundry ideas and theories of pH are fair game. Knowledgable people > > welcome as well as total newbies. > > > > To sign up just send me a private email. I'll get back to you when it > starts. > > > > ~^^V^^~ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour Dear sir, Please sign me up for your New pH list. With regards, Lew (Malaysia) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How to clean silver ingots?
Hi Vikki' This is Ron and I use common everyday baking soda with good results -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: Quackwatch on CS
Quack Quack James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: alial...@aol.com [SMTP:alial...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 6:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Re: Quackwatch on CS I asked Quackwatch what double blind studies he had to prove that something alternative didn't work, and he said he didn'thave time to answer me. Ha ha, Alice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>The Issue of PPM
Hi Dennis, Can you tell me how to obtain the Baranowski book? Did the book say anything about how the PPM necessary to kill the bacteria was determined? Thanks, James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Lipter [SMTP:dlip...@accesshub.net] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CS>The Issue of PPM In my booklet "Colloidal Silver" by Zane Baranowski he reports that "the concentration necessary to sterilize water contaminated with pathogenic bacteria is between 0.04 and 0.2ppm. Perhaps when taken internally, higher concentrations in the 3-5ppm range are advisable. He goes on to emphasize that particle size is much more important than ppm when assessing the quality of product. Dennis Lipter -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold/cs experiments
Someone mentioned Chlorox. We need to remember that Chlorox not only kills but bleaches things white. We can't expect it to turn white or disappear as CS is not a bleach or an acid. If anything, we might expect staining of some sort from the CS. My counters got a reddish-blackish stain from spilled CS that would occur when I filled up little bottles with CS or filtered it and spilt some. Here's a couple things you can look for: Did the mold increase? Did the mold die? You may need a microscope or something to determine that. That's what makes this sort of test different from the souring milk test where CS apparently prevents bacterial growth. If you don't see or smell the bacteria, then you know it's working. But with mold already there, you need to know what to look for. I don't know if change in color is one of those things. Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold/cs experiments
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:05:34 EDT, wong...@aol.com wrote: > Since I heard on the list that cs would kill >kitchen mold and bathroom mildew I dumped a teaspoon in. It killed the mold >where the cs made contact, but the rest kept growing. > >I did this 3 times with the same results. I swished the solution around and >only if direct contact was made would it kill the mold. Well that explains why it works for me. I use a spray bottle! Chuck Being in politics is like being a football coach-- you have to be smart enough to understand the game and stupid enough to think it's important -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>dr. beck
Andrew, (I don't have your email address& you didn't post it ) Thank you very much, my address is: Janine Meunier 635 W. Bridle Lane Post Falls, ID 83854 janin...@icehouse.net Your story is very compelling thank you for sharing, I look forward to reading Dr. Becks info and possibly building his machine. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>mold/cs experiments
In a message dated 08/26/1999 10:39:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kato...@aol.com writes: << Help!! In order to figure out if my cs is working I decided to try the mold test. I grew some nasty long hairy mold on a piece of bread and then dropped a few drops of each of several of my batches of CS on it in different spots -- along with a test spot of the storebought cs which cured my sinus infection. NOTHING HAPPENED?! >> Same with me. I posted this to the list sometime ago but there were no responses. I had some used Japanese tea bags, which supposedly contains coral calcium from a special island, steeping in a jar to use as a trial tonic for my plants. I forgot about it and when I found it again there was a thick mold on top growing like a forrest. Since I heard on the list that cs would kill kitchen mold and bathroom mildew I dumped a teaspoon in. It killed the mold where the cs made contact, but the rest kept growing. I did this 3 times with the same results. I swished the solution around and only if direct contact was made would it kill the mold. This is the same cs I use for myself and my son's dog. One morning I found the dog shivering in 60 degree temp. Warm for S>F. Not wanting a $60 vet bill I decided to try cs. I shot a syringe full in his mouth. In less than 2 hours he appeared to be normal. To be safe. I gave him another half syringe. He started to eat his treats again (BJ Marsha) so I guess it fixed him up. That's my experience with cs and mold. Wrong kind of mold, maybe? wong -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Issue of PPM
Excerprt can be found at: http://csprosystems.com/Baranowskipg.htm -Original Message- From: Dennis Lipter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:43 PM Subject: Re: CS>The Issue of PPM >I got mine from a wholesale distributor I do business with. The publisher is >Healing Wisdom Publications ISBN # 0-9647080-1-9. > >Dennis Lipter > >Michael C McNeill wrote: > >> >In my booklet "Colloidal Silver" by Zane Baranowski he reports that >> >> So, how do we get ahold of this booklet? >> >> ___ >> Get the Internet just the way you want it. >> Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >> Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Beck's book
With Kind Regards Andrew Sloop -Original Message- From: Janine [mailto:janin...@icehouse.net] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:35 AM To: CS list Subject: CS>Beck's book Where can I get Dr Beck's book "take back your power" ? [Andy] Try Sota Inc. at http://www.sota-inc.com/products.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Fw: escharotic
Hi... I would be interested in getting the name and source info( phone number) for the salve you mention . Thankyou very muchByron -Original Message- From: Henry Reed To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 7:24 PM Subject: Re: CS>Fw: escharotic >I am interested in the Indian Mud. Details, please? > >T wrote: >> >> Hi, >>There is a product I get form a naturopath in AZ., called Indian Mud. >> Very much like Black salve, but better. It's truly amazing stuff. Not >> only pulls the tumor out, but draws cancer from other parts of the body out >> with it. Since skin cancer has long tentacles, it is hard to really get it >> all with surgery. This stuff pulls the tentacles out. I've seen it work >> and personally used it. Even my MD was impressed. If interested in more >> info, let me know. >> Kass >> -Original Message- >> From: fedtol...@worldnet.att.net >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 11:08 AM >> Subject: Re: CS>Fw: escharotic >> >> >Ian, >> >I'm very interested in your result with the Escharotic paste. My Mom was >> >just diagnosed with Clark's stage 4 melanoma on her arm and I am clammoring >> >around trying to decide on alternative treatments while the doctors check >> >to see if it has spread, and warm up the chemo equipment. >> > >> >Can you share any other information regarding your moms cancer. Was it >> >Clark's stage 4, I am wondering because you said the doctors are sure it is >> >spreading somewhere. Have you used the capsules also.How long did she >> >have the cancer before you treated it. Do you have any information that >> >the topical treatment may be effective with cancer spreading under the skin >> >in the area? My mom had the tumor on her arm removed, they think they >> >feel another lump nearby under the skin. >> > >> >I'm going to check out the website, but at the moment my computer is acting >> >up and all I can do is send and receive my email >> > >> >Your thoughts are appreciated, >> >Diana. >> >-- >> >> From: roesil...@aol.com >> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Subject: Re: CS>Fw: escharotic >> >> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 6:43 PM >> >> >> >> Another source of Escharotic is >> >> Alpha Omega Labs >> >> www.altcancer.com >> >> >> >> I got some paste from there for $49 and only a little of it destroyed a >> >10 >> >> square inch melanoma on my mother's head in less than 24 hours. It had >> >no >> >> effect on healthy tissue. The substance was also available in capsules >> >120 >> >> for $29 (a month's supply) There was a nasty wound to heal afterwards >> >but no >> >> infection ensued. She suffers more now from the radiation she received >> >than >> >> anything else. There may still be mets but the doctors haven't found >> >them >> >> yet - they are only 'sure' that it is spreading somewhere. >> >> >> >> Sincerely Yours, >> >> >> >> Ian Roe >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > >> > >> >-- >> >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> > >> >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> > >> >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> > >> >List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > >> > >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Issue of PPM
I got mine from a wholesale distributor I do business with. The publisher is Healing Wisdom Publications ISBN # 0-9647080-1-9. Dennis Lipter Michael C McNeill wrote: > >In my booklet "Colloidal Silver" by Zane Baranowski he reports that > > So, how do we get ahold of this booklet? > > ___ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
