CSsilver mahine
this is a big call for some help from the land down under, a friend of mine is making the silver making machines, and 'they' have taken him to court for false statements. He stated that that in March 1978 the Americam Science Digest printed an article Silver, Our Mghtiest Germ Fighter as an antibiotic, colloidal silver kills over 650 disease causing organisms, We are trying to find a photo copy of this but no luck so far, if anyone out there could let us have a copy it would be a big weapon to fight the big fight, please send any help you can. thanks keith
Re: CSrabbit remedies
DE, or diatamateous earth. Get it at the garden store. It is very fine like flour. Rub it into the fur, don't have to worry about using too much, use lots. OK if rabbit (or daughter) eats some, won't hurt anything, might help some things (worms). Probably $6 will be enought to last a very long time. Jim Cindy Powell wrote: Does anyone know what natural remedy would be safe and effective for fur mites on my daughters bunnies? I took them to a breeder for a shot of ivermectin, but the mites are persisting. Would olive oil or something like castor oil smother the mites? Thanks in advance,Cindy
Re: CSbuilding a zapper/H.Clark's book
Thanks Charles Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSbuilding a zapper
Mary, check out http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/cureall.htm for more info on Hulda Clark. Also a discussion board recommended by charles at http://forums.delphi.com/preview/main.asp?sigdir=zapper I intend to read her book and try her methods before being skeptical. I like to jump in and try it myself! Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSbuilding a zapper
Is there a website for the zapper information? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSbuilding a zapper
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:48:11 -0700, Mary mo...@inow.com wrote: Is there a website for the zapper information? If you do a websearch on zapper you will discover a multitude of sites. Chuck The extra mile will have no traffic jams. (Anonymous) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSbuilding a zapper/H.Clark's book
Janine wrote: I have ordered Hulda Clark's book from Amazon.com, has anyone had any luck getting it from them? I will probably know in a week weather they have it or not but they say 4-6 weeks for delivery. I don't want to wait 2 months to use my zapper! I should be getting B. Beck's book this week , will that be good enough for now? Janine Go to: Powell's Books, search engine http://www.powells.com/search/DTSearch/search.cgi Under Author: Enter Hulda Clark This search will return evey book in stock by Hulda Clark. I just did it and they now have eight copies of her books in stock. Michael -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSH. pylori
michael wrote: Nothing about CS here but interesting. There is now little doubt that Helicobacter pylori, found in the stomachs of a third of adults in the United States, causes inflammation of the stomach lining. In 20 percent of infected people it produces an ulcer. Nearly everyone with a duodenal ulcer is infected. H. pylori infections can be readily diagnosed with endoscopic biopsy tests, a blood test for antibodies, or a breath test. In 90 percent of cases the infections can be cured in less than a month with antibiotics. (Unfortunately, many doctors still haven't gotten the news. A Colorado survey found that 46 percent of patients seeking medical attention for ulcer symptoms are never tested for H. pylori by their physicians.) The above article was cut from A New Germ Theory which can be found here: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99feb/germs.htm michael While working my way through backlogged e-mail this weekend I reread the above message. Had intended to reply earlier but in trying to read all the subsequent messages on this list... I forgot to do so. (Too bad CS doesn't improve one's memory G.) A letter regarding the above referenced article was published in the May issue. It seems someone knew the cause of stomach ulcers more than fifty years ago! --- The Atlantic Monthly May 1999 To a physician long interested in microbiology, A New Germ Theory brought up the interesting question of scientific information and timing. What causes information to be set aside and what determines when its time has finally come? In 1946 I was a first-year resident at the New York Hospital when the senior attending physician, Constance Guion, called to tell me that she was admitting a patient who was suffering with an acute, painful peptic stomach ulcer. Dr. Guion instructed me to start the patient on that new antibiotic, aureomycin, the forerunner of the modern tetracycline family of antibiotics. But Dr. Guion, I expostulated. I thought you said she had an ulcer. Why would you want to treat her with an antibiotic? Dr. Guion replied, The latest research over at Mount Sinai shows that 'peptic' ulcers are actually caused by germs; now do as I say and give her the aureomycin. The patient went home three days later free of symptoms. Paul Fremont-Smith Physician in Chief, Emeritus New England Baptist Hospital Boston, Mass. Judith Hooper replies: (snip) Paul Fremont-Smith's letter is fascinating. One wonders what Constance Guion knew and how she knew it -- and who dropped the ball. http://theatlantic.com/issues/99may/9905lett.htm Michael -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS[Fwd: Advanced CS or Holy CS Batman]
By request,this is being re-posted. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Greetings transmuters of silver into electuary medicament, Could have just said hello,no fun in that. Anyway, some new stuff to talk about. Some months back was thinking how to keep the CS clear while making it. Clear being used to mean no turbidity. That means totally transparent or perspicuous(nothing visible). Clear is not a correct term to use since you can have clear eyes, a clear road,etc. .So in attempts to make CS with no turbidity did a series of experiments on *Current Density*. After doing a lot of tests and constructing Current Density Tables have found that if the wetted electrode current is kept below 0.0107ma per mm2 (10.7ua per mm2) that the CS stays clear and no Floculation takes place until after power is removed. This equates to a true solution or particles under 1 mu (10-6 mm). mu=millimicron ma=milliamp ua= microamp mm=millimeter mm2=millimeter squared This means that single atoms have been removed. These single atoms will begin to floculate after power is removed into larger groups of atoms or small molecules,all of which can PASS INTO cells and attack viruses,viroids and prions. Normal large particle CS will attack bacteria which are outside of cells, but can not get into the cell. Remember that bacteria are outside cells and viruses,viroids and prions are inside cells. In order to further enhance the potentiality of the CS ran a series of experiments to explore the capability of removing one or two or three electrons from the silver atom. This I could do with the *starved electrode* technic. In was found that with only one electron removed the CS would become pale rose pink (red)(6470A,647mu) when floculating with only slight turbidity. With two electrons removed the CS would become yellow (5780A,578mu)when floculating and only slight turbidity. With three electrons removed the CS would become violet (lavender)(4050A,405mu) when floculating with only slight turbidity. A= angstroms mu= millimicrons mv=millivolt With the *starved electrode* the CS becomes very ionicly active with typical readings of 30 to 50 mv at the electrodes with no power applied after making the CS. One run was stopped at 6ppm and WITHOUT power applied the ppm continued to rise to 14ppm over a period of several days. The mv potential at the electrodes slowly went down as the ppm went up. This is really active stuff and opens up new avenues of thought and more tests to make. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: Re: Advanced CS]
Re-post by request. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Ken Seger wrote: Tai-Pan wrote: Some months back was thinking how to keep the CS clear while making it. Clear being used to mean no turbidity. That means totally transparent or perspicuous(nothing visible). Clear is not a correct term to use since you can have clear eyes, a clear road,etc. .So in attempts to make CS with no turbidity did a series of experiments on *Current Density*. After doing a lot of tests and constructing Current Density Tables have found that if the wetted electrode current is kept below 0.0107ma per mm2 (10.7ua per mm2) that the CS stays clear and no Floculation takes place until after power is removed. This equates to a true solution or particles under 1 mu (10-6 mm). mu=millimicron ma=milliamp ua= microamp mm=millimeter mm2=millimeter squared Does this hold true for all types of current? Ie. AC or DC? 27 Volts, 120V, 180V, 10,000V? This means that single atoms have been removed. These single atoms will begin to floculate after power is removed into larger groups of atoms or small molecules,all of which can PASS INTO cells and attack viruses,viroids and prions. Normal large particle CS will attack bacteria which are outside of cells, but can not get into the cell. Remember that bacteria are outside cells and viruses,viroids and prions are inside cells. How soon? Does the clumping become significant after 2 minutes, 2 hours, 2 days, 2 weeks, or 2 months? In order to further enhance the potentiality of the CS ran a series of experiments to explore the capability of removing one or two or three electrons from the silver atom. This I could do with the *starved electrode* technic. In was found that with only one electron removed the CS would become pale rose pink (red)(6470A,647mu) when floculating with only slight turbidity. With two electrons removed the CS would become yellow (5780A,578mu)when floculating and only slight turbidity. With three electrons removed the CS would become violet (lavender)(4050A,405mu) when floculating with only slight turbidity. What is the starved electrode technique? A= angstroms mu= millimicrons mv=millivolt With the *starved electrode* the CS becomes very ionicly active with typical readings of 30 to 50 mv at the electrodes with no power applied after making the CS. One run was stopped at 6ppm and WITHOUT power applied the ppm continued to rise to 14ppm over a period of several days. The mv potential at the electrodes slowly went down as the ppm went up. This is really active stuff and opens up new avenues of thought and more tests to make. If you remove the electrodes and reintroduce them to the CS does the electrical potential between the electrodes decline due to clumping? I gather this means only fresh CS is extremely active? Thanks. Hi Ken, Answers: Question 1. Current is the flow of electrons,don`t care how you get them to move. Don`t exceed 10.7ua per mm2 and the CS will stay clear. Question 2. Floculation is not clumping. Floculation is the atoms trying to become stable by following the OCTET rule of valence electrons.Floculation begins as soon as power is removed and the atoms begin combining their valence electrons. Its a slow process,goes faster the higher the ppm is to begin with as more atoms are trying to stabilize. Occurs over many days,you will notice a hint of color tint right away. Question 3. That is a way of slowly lowering the electrode voltage over a period of time until the ionic potential equals the electrode voltage, its related to area also. At that time the electrode current will also be starved. Question 4. Don`t know ,did not remove electrodes and reintroduce them, that could be another test.Fresher it is the more potent it will be. I would never store it when its so easy to make it. Thanks for the questions Ken. They were very excellent. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: Re: CS[Fwd: Advanced CS or Holy CS Batman]]
Re-post by request. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Ken Seger wrote: Tai-Pan wrote: Subject: Advanced CS or Holy CS Batman -snip- After doing a lot of tests and constructing Current Density Tables have found that if the wetted electrode current is kept below 0.0107ma per mm2 (10.7ua per mm2) that the CS stays clear and no Floculation takes place until after power is removed. This equates to a true solution or particles under 1 mu (10-6 mm). mu=millimicron ma=milliamp ua= microamp mm=millimeter mm2=millimeter squared -snip- In order to further enhance the potentiality of the CS ran a series of experiments to explore the capability of removing one or two or three electrons from the silver atom. This I could do with the *starved electrode*. -snip- Let me see if I have this right. I measure the amperage on my primary(I'm using a neon transformer), do a little math to figure the amperage on the secondary(be conservative and assume no loss), figure the surface area of my electrodes and then make sure my surface is adequate to support less than 0.0107ma/mm2, right? If not add more surface area - remeasuring the amperage of course. Can you tell me precisely what a *starved electrode* is? Thank you in advance - Ken S. Hi Ken, Thanks for message. I`m really backlogged, only 379 postings behind. :-) The current density tables were constructed for DC current. A starved electroded is created by slowly increasing series resistance until electrode potential is about 13% above the ionization voltage of the electron you are removing, (refer to ionization tables in a physics book). At this point the current will remain constant while the PPM will continue to rise. The solution will become saturated with ions and become very reactive. This way you can control how many electrons you are removing from the atom. That will determine the flocculation structure later, and the size and configuration of the resulting molecular atomic structure. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: CSStarved Electrodes Technique]
Re-post by request. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Hello Ken, Andrew and other paragons of CS, The Starved Electroded was discovered quite by accident while during experiments for constructing current density tables. Any good meters will be satisfactory, however I was using an RS model 174B LCD Digital Auto-ranging multimeter, a couple of RS model 803 LCD Digital Auto-ranging multimeters, a Simpson 260 multimeter and a Calectro model H3-361 multimeter. The RS 174B also measures temperature. The thing to do is get the electrode potential at 13.3% above the electron ionization potential. For the Ag atom the Potentials are ; Ag I7.542v 13.3% over is 8.5v Ag II 21.4v 13.3% over is 23.8v ( in the range of 3 nine volt batteries) Ag III 35.9v 13.3% over is 40.7v I would select a current I wanted to run at,such as 3 ma ( in my case that would be 4.5ua/mm2 of wetted electrode area) and keep the current at 3ma or under during the run. Start the run and let the current build up to the limit you have selected for the experiment. Begin increasing series resistence to the electrodes ,alway keeping the current at 3ma (any current you select). As the conductivity of the CS becomes higher the current will try to rise and you need to keep increasing the series resistance. Monitor the electrode voltage and current all the time and tabulate it as you go. If you don`t have time to stay with it don`t bother to try, as it needs constant monitoring. Every 5 minutes stir the water CCW and record the current before and after stirring. Normally after each stir the current will drop as the CS is dispersed from the vicinity of the electrodes.I use four sets of electrodes, located around the edge of the vessel. My stirring is in the middle of the CS solution. Your tabulation (charting) will look like a series of sawteeth. As the solution becomes saturated and the electrode voltage reaches the target potential a strange thing will happen. Each time you stir the CS the current will INCREASE (instead of decreasing) and you will find that the tabulated sawteeth will be reversed from the previous sawteeth. Each time you stir the saturated CS the solution is increasing (adding to) the energy of the circuit and the current rises momentarily. Once the the sawtooth reversals are evident the current will no longer increase, it becomes self regulating. The CS ppm will level off and remain steady. I usually let it run another 30 minutes to ensure complete saturation. The solution is now saturated, will not accept any more ions. The ionic potential is now 13.3% above the ionization potential. It is maintaining a status quo, the ionic potential is balancing the external potential applied to the electrodes. Under this condition the ionic potential will cause the ppm to begin to rise when external power is removed. The energy stored in the CS being used to continue the CS making process. This was also discovered not too long ago by another of our experimenters. :-) Sometimes I would stop and let the solution set for many hours and start it again to see what would happen. It always started where I had left off. The self ppm rise will only happen after the solution is saturated and at high energy. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: Re: CS]
Re-post by request. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Tom Parkhill wrote: Good series of discussions on potential and current in the last few days! Based on your information, I am re-designing my constant current generator to not only limit-deliver the 10.7 microamps per mm2, but also be voltage limited at 13% over the EIP. Question, please: Which regime do you believe produces the best CS, I, II, or III? (8.5v, 23.8v, or 40.7?) To date I use a 30 volt PS with current limiting, and my color is clear, decaying to yellow over time in storage, which I assume is correct for regime II. In earlier experiments, I produced violet with a 48 volt source (confirms regime III). With voltage limiting at 8.5 v and current limiting, I should produce all regime I. I may switch between I, II, and III if there is an advantage. I appreciate your comments! Tom Parkhill Hi Tom, Good questions. There is no best CS per se. The regime I will be best for intra-cellular use as it is the smallest atoms, and molecules in size. The regime II is the most common, thats what most of us make (its yellow). Good for intra-cellular and inter-cellular use, contains regine I small particles and of course, regime II medium size particles. The regime III is the largest particles, very good for topical use and general spraying around. Of course the regime III will also contain regime I and regime II size particles, although in smaller percentages of the total fluid. Color wise all of the regimes will produce clear fluid. As particle size becomes larger the flockulation will be faster. i.e. Regime I will stay clear a long time, regime II will stay clear a shorter time and regime III will not stay clear very long. As the density of the particles becomes greater in the fluid the natural molecule desire to flockulate will become greater. Don`t confuse density of molecules with size of molecules. Most regime III will begin flockulation as soon as the power is removed. The regime II may go many hours or days before it shows signs of flockulation. Regime I may not flockulate for a long time(I have seen months). The density is a major factor in flockulation. Higher density will flockulate sooner. Flockulation is not clumping. If you stick two mud balls together thats a clump, NO structure to it. Flockulation is the atoms, ions,and molecules recombining into a new and different structure. The new structure will change the color of the CS, as you have seen and noted. Clear is not a good word to describe clarity of the fluid. The prefered word is turbidity. It has its own meaning. Would you like a good limiting regulator circuit? Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: CS[Fwd: CSRe: Starved Electrodes Technique]]
Re-post by request. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Here you go Robert. Enjoy. --end-- Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Andrew Sloop wrote: Hello Bob I was reading you post on the Starved Electrode process and some question occurred to me. I am sure that the answers will seem obvious to you. But obviously not to me. Please feel free to forward your reply to anyone that you think would benefit from your reply. Thanks Andy -Original Message- From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 6:35 PM To: kense...@earthlink.net; asl...@oco.net Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Starved Electrodes Technique The Starved Electroded was discovered quite by accident while during experiments for constructing current density tables. Any good meters will be satisfactory, however I was using an RS model 174B LCD Digital Auto-ranging multimeter Hi Andy, 1.) I am not familiar with what the initials RS stands for. RS = Radio Shack The thing to do is get the electrode potential at 13.3% above the electron ionization potential. 2.) Does this mean that the initial electrode voltage should be set for 13.3% above theionization potential? No. As current increases, you increase the series resistance until the electrode potential is at 13.3% above the ioization potential. You need to build up a pool of ionic silver in the water before you begin applying the starved electrode technique. I would select a current I wanted to run at,such as 3 ma ( in my case that would be 4.5ua/mm2 of wetted electrode area) and keep the current at 3ma or under during the run. 3.) When a strip of silver is used instead of wire do both sides of the strip have the same current flow? Or does the side closest to the other electrode have the most current? Should both sides be given the same weight in the area calculation. Use total area of the wetted surface. Shape is not important. All sides are equal in the current calculation. Every 5 minutes stir the water CCW and record the current before and after stirring. Normally after each stir the current will drop as the CS is dispersed from the vicinity of the electrodes. 4.) Why CCW? Natural way in northern hemisphere. Never go against nature. Stirring creates a low pressure in the center, which is CCW in nature. You may wish to look into the subject of natural water enhancing. I use four sets of electrodes, located around the edge of the vessel. 5.) Is the spacing and orientation of the electrodes important? If they are strips should they face each other and alternate + - etc. I treat each pair of wires as an electrode set, each set is thought of as operating independently of the others. My wire spacing is 3/4 of an inch, if the other sets are over five spacings away very little interaction is found between sets. My stirring is in the middle of the CS solution. 6.) Can the solution be continuously stirred with a motor? Intermittant stirring is required, otherwise no sawtooth will be observed and you will not know when saturation has occured. As the solution becomes saturated and the electrode voltage reaches the target potential a strange thing will happen. 7.) I don't understand. I thought that the voltage was already set for the correct value. Are you talking about the increasing electrode voltage due to reduced current flow through the series resistor? Or is this something else? See above, you work your way down to the target potential. Once the the sawtooth reversals are evident the current will no longer increase, it becomes self regulating. The CS ppm will level off and remain steady. 8.) If the solution was stirred continuously would the saw tooth reversal be required for the process to function? Without the sawtooth you will not know when saturation has occured. I usually let it run another 30 minutes to ensure complete saturation. The solution is now saturated, will not accept any more ions. 9.) I assume the electrode current is near zero? Read above. The current becomes steady. The ionic potential is now 13.3% above the ionization potential. 10.) Because the electrode current is zero? Because the ions are being removed at the same rate they are being created,(saturated),current is steady. Suggest you put one together and do some hands on work. Best way to learn. Under this condition the ionic potential will cause the ppm to begin to rise when external power is removed. The energy stored in the CS being used to continue the CS making process. 11.) How high will the ppm rise? Depends on how much energy you have stored in the ionized solution. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of
CS[Fwd: CSWalking the Walk, or The Dumb Guys]
Re-post by request. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Greeting Glorious Ones of CS, A Test: Do not do this at home. A few military friends of mine got together last week for the usual yak-yak about military things. The talk came around to the anthrax shots. I opened my mouth and said they wouldn`t need them if all the military were taking CS. A long discussion then went on, at the end we had decided to set up a real he-man, macho, walk the walk test. Cold brew will do things to normally intelligent people. This was not a smart thing to do, but please consider who our small group is. One was me, Tai-Pan, ex-seal from Nam, One ex-Army Ranger, Shannon, from Desert Storm, and one ex-82nd Air Borne from Bosnia, Richard, (paratrooper). I`m the oldest, they are young guys. The test was to eat rotten meat and see if the CS would prevent problems. We agreed that if anyone became ill we would wait for at least a 103f fever before taking CS. If it (the CS) did not work we would go to the ER at a fever of 105f. The ER was only a few blocks away at Poly Ryan Hospital. Then we decided that one, Richard, would be the observer, and the other two would eat the rotten meat. Then we decided that one meat would be treated with CS and one not. OK, so here we go to Richard`s house and get the rotten meat he was going to throw out, it smelled very bad and strong. Richard is baching, so whats new. We made two patties of about 1/4 lb each, hamburger size. One was put in a bowl and CS poured over it and kneeded well in the CS and made into a patty again. The other one was untreated. We drew straws to see who got each patty. I got the CS one and Shannon got the untreated one. We ate them, with a little beer to blunt the taste of them. Really macho. :-) Then we waited. After half an hour Shannon developed a stomach ache, which proceeded to get worse. He had classical symptoms of food poisoning (botulism). I did not develope any symptoms at all. His temperature began to rise so we decided to use the CS right away at about 101.5f. Gave Shannon four tablespoons of CS every 15 minutes for 90 minutes (1 1/2 hrs). Temperature held steady then began dropping, gave CS at four tablespoons every 30 minutes, and by the end of four hours he was feeling normal again. Continued CS at four tablespoons once an hour until the end of six hours just to make sure the botulism was gone. That was Saturday, now its Monday and still OK. CS was 9ppm, active. So whats it prove,(besides our dumb idea). Well, the CS treated meat was rendered safe. Can treat rotten food in an emergency if need be with CS and use it. Proved it would stop botulism. I usually take CS before eating out anyway. Proved we shouldn`t drink so much at one time. Now Richard and Shannon are using CS. :-) Now I feel better about them and their health. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CS[Fwd: Re: CSRe: Ahh-so, I see said the blind man]
Re-post by request. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Sharon L. House wrote: Bob, I always thought that botulism could only grow in an anaerobic envirnoment like in canned goods. Are you sure it wasn't ptomaine? If I'm not mistaken, true botulism poisoning is relatively rare whereas the more common food poisoning is caused by ptomaine when food begins to decay. If botulism could occur that easily there would be a lot more people die from food poisoning as botulism is almost always fatal whereas ptomaine only makes you feel like you WISH you were dead. Too bad you didn't do what one of the new and lovable posters on this list would have suggested, namely that you and Nutso (or whatever his name is) (almost was) should not have known which was the silverized meat and which wasn't when you ate it. Sure enjoyed your other post. Regardless of your wild and wacky ways, were proud to be associated with you too. Just next time you have an irresistable inclination to do something crazy, would you let us know so we can talk you out of it?? Sharon -- Hi Sharon, Used the word, botulism, as the general term for Food poisoning. The rotten meat may have had multiple microorganisms in it. Was not attempting to identify any specific germ (another general word). Actually we were all nutso, sort of like in combat. :-) Please do talk us out of it.;-) bless youBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
CSrabbit remedies
Does anyone know what natural remedy would be safe and effective for fur mites on my daughters bunnies? I took them to a breeder for a shot of ivermectin, but the mites are persisting. Would olive oil or something like castor oil smother the mites? Thanks in advance, Cindy
CSH.Clark's book
Janine: I got my Hulda Clark books in just a few days from Barnes Noble on the internet Howard C Janine wrote: I have ordered Hulda Clark's book from Amazon.com, has anyone had any luck getting it from them? I will probably know in a week weather they have it or not but they say 4-6 weeks for delivery. I don't want to wait 2 months to use my zapper! I should be getting B. Beck's book this week , will that be good enough for now? Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNEW pH list starting...
Sign me up for the ph group, please thanks, Al -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSSilver Protein? CS Site
Lynn, While Advantage Pharmaceuticals has done some very good pioneering work in developing MSP protocols for treating Lyme disease etc., I don't believe their product is any more effective than CS or Silver Sols. There are questions about the addition of protein stabilisers to silver sols causing the cosmetic skin condition argyria. In my reading of this matter, it would require massive doses of MSP to achieve this outcome. However it seems prudent not to add compounds, which are not necessary, to CS and raise the risk, however slight, of some negative outcome. They recommend 30 ppm because that is what they formulate, I suspect. Regards - Ivan. Someone passed on to me a web site that had some interesting silver info: http://www.escape.ca/~revive/index.html It's put out by a company trying to sell mild silver protein (msp). I was wondering if there is something that we can do to the cs solution that we make ourselves to make it msp. Anyone know? They also recommend using 30ppm minimum. Any comments? Thanks! Lynn lgoldha...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CScapacitors
I need to know the diff between the following 2 capacitors: C0805C102J1GAC and SXK210A What type of capacitors are the best(ie monolithic, ceramic )??? What type of resistors are best? Thanks, Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMaking CS
Hello all, As is to be expected, we are revisiting questions discussed in the past, all be it with new angles and uncommon intelligence. The essentials are the same, however. How many volts, how many mAmps, how long, what concentration, how much to take. New investigators are paying their dues :-) Because of the large number of variables one set of parameters does not relate easily to another. It is pointless to attempt to define the numbers for a system that simply has two electrodes draped over the side of a glass. To have any meaning, the generating container and electrode configuration must be defined. To this end, I have posted the design of probably the simplest generator possible, complete with generating configuration. Using this, and assuming the quality of the distilled water is similar (can be confirmed if DMM available), then a predictable outcome is possible. The simplest generator, that will produce quality CS with no fall out or build up that does not require current limiting, is a 9 volt AC adaptor, a single 9 volt or 12 volt battery, or two 9 volt batteries. I am happy to provide times of generation for different voltages vs ppm, but this will only relate to the electrode configuration of my earlier post, and assumes the use of distilled water of a similar quality to that which I use. Regards - Ivan - Original Message - From: Victoria Welch vi...@oz.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 28 August 1999 11:27 Subject: Re: CSMaking CS G'Day Bob :-), Perhaps you can come up with a standard procedure for making CS in a simple easy to follow uncomplicated way. Well, this is something I have seen a LOT of out there, mostly for commercial machines. I am sure these people have made some effort in the matter to do just this. The more unknowns the more random the PPM. Perhaps with their testing to determine these things, we can assume (!??!?!) that is the reason that the devices that they sell are $60+ rather than $10 for the three batteries, jumper clips and silver wire :-). I haven't purchased any of them, I'm using the $10 approach and bitching about having no idea of what I am producing (although it certainly seems like good stuff(TM:) :-). However, not all of those in need have $60+ to spend, there have been times in my life when $60 was a fantastic amount of . So I do think that this line of research does have merit... big snip -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSrabbit remedies
Cindy, I don't know for sure about rabbit mites, but my mother used to use oil on the top of chickens' heads to control those mites. Cindy Powell wrote: Does anyone know what natural remedy would be safe and effective for fur mites on my daughters bunnies? I took them to a breeder for a shot of ivermectin, but the mites are persisting. Would olive oil or something like castor oil smother the mites? Thanks in advance, Cindy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSFDA bans CS
Picked this up on the Rife list. Let the games begin. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/silver.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSIon size was buying CS
Hi Ivan, I concur with you on these issues, though I feel that my opinion is only marginally qualified. I am getting a sense that the net effect of attractive and repulsive forces are a function of particle proximity, which is a function of concentration and particle size---when originally separated from the electrode. Among many other factors, of course. I think we need to give careful attention to noting if the dimension is given as diameter or radius. I think I may have compared one with the other at various times. Those simple little details give you a 100% error in a blink. What does Brooks Bradley know that causes him to prefer 5 PPM? Has anyone ever asked? Brooks, if you see this, please comment. If ions come off the electrode, how do they get together in larger groups if they all have a + charge? If an ion already has a + charge, as a valence, then what is the effect of the electron which gives a cluster a + charge on a group of neutral atoms? A +2 charge? Ah, to spend a day with a very experienced electrochemist... I am going to get a flick of my silver bits as soon as I can get the process a little more standardized and a wad of FRNs to pay for the scope. Probably sometime this century. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSIon size was buying CS - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 29 August 1999 07:16 Subject: RE: CSbuying CS Covalent radius is still larger than 1.26 A., at 1.34. If the size is 1.26, that could be one atom only of ionic silver; not a cluster of atoms with a charge---regardless of the consequences of that. And, 1.26 may be smaller than one silver ion. I use web elements for reference: http://www.webelements.com/ who note that the covalent radius is 153 pm (1.53 A). Yes, silver ions (Pauling radius of silver ion 1.26 A). The electrophoretic method may be a better way to determine particle size, due to the fact that samples for electron microscopy must be dried before scanning, which possibly leads to changes in particle structure. The electrophoretic method measures the speed of particles under the influence of a potential in a liquid medium (water). Then applies some equations, to calculate the effective radius of the particle. The size of the silver ion is found to have a radius of 0.145nm (1.45 A) by this method. When I made sol with 3 9V batts, a lot of it fell out of solution, so some of it must be quite a bit larger than 1.26 A. There's the rub, whilst silver leaves the anode and enters the sol as single ions, how long they stay discrete and in what form they ultimately find equalibrium depends on the configuration of the generating parameters. These are the very variables we struggle with daily on the list. It can be assumed (in my opinion) however, that few if any silver sols contain single ions but rather particles of two or more ions. Of course there are other particles which may enter the sol via the cathode build up. I want to see a picture of the stuff with a nm scale in it. Does anyone have one? I think there will be a wide range of sizes present; and that could be a good thing. You're not going to get one are you ;-) James Osbourne, Holmes Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSrabbit remedies
Hmm. When we had rabbits we poured a little oil in their ears for ear mites. Would fur mites be the same thing? What about dusting the rabbits with diatomacious earth? This works for fleas and lice on chickens and goats, I'd think it would be the same on rabbit fur. The DE is tiny little sharp particles of sea creatures, and it cuts the shells of the bugs, and they dry out. Sparrow Does anyone know what natural remedy would be safe and effective for fur mites on my daughters bunnies? I took them to a breeder for a shot of ivermectin, but the mites are persisting. Would olive oil or something like castor oil smother the mites? Thanks in advance, Cindy
RE: CSBeating a dead horse???
Re: early use of CS. Dr. Hill documents the use of electro-generated silver sols in the early part of this century in his review of the literature. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Silverworks (Nancy B.) [SMTP:silverwo...@oikourgos.com] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 5:57 AM To: Silver-List Subject:CSBeating a dead horse??? File: ATT1.html If you look at this citation page, http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose4.html from Rosemary's site, you will see that all the references except 2 are based on literature published 1940 and earlier!!! From what I've read of the hx. of CS, these instances are most likely ground silver in suspension, not electrocolloidal silver like we make today! If this is such a serious problem TODAY, why is there no reference to cases of argyria today SPECIFIC TO Electro-colloidal silver? (There are NONE in the Fung article - Fung MC, Bowen DL: Silver Products for Medicinal Indications: Risk - Benefit Assessment Clinical Toxicology, 34(l), 119-126(1996) despite how the abstracts would lead you to believe of it's dangers. This is the article I've read in full that helped me decide to take the risk. The other modern day article is dated 1975. (Goodman LS, Gihnan A: The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics. 5th edition. New York: MacMillan, 1975:930-931, 999-1000.) Now think about it... what kind of silver product would have been used widely from 1940-1975? My guess is prescription silver salts, not colloidal silver! But from the title, it sounds like this article would focus on the uses for silver. It'd probably be a good one for showing people there's scientific evidence that silver is of therapeutic value! I'd like to track down a copy of that article. Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSFDA bans CS
What is the Rife list? Mary Let the games begin. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/silver.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSrabbit remedies
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:55:08 -0600, Cindy Powell suns...@networld.com wrote: Does anyone know what natural remedy would be safe and effective for fur mites on my daughters bunnies? Not sure about mites, but I'm willing to bet this will work! Cedar shavings used as bedding, eliminates fleas quickly. I used to sew horse blankets into pillows and stuff them with cedar shavings for my beagles. Worked like a charm. Chuck Circular Definition: see Circular Definition -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
cs and eyes
Yesterday, for the first time in about 2 years, my eyes did not hurt in any way--no burning, itching, or just plain hurting. Have been using cs drops in eyes several times a day for a couple of weeks and voila!! This stuff is just wonderful. Thank all of you for being so encouraging and informative and helpful in every way. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSQuestions about making Cs
Katarina wrote: I've been following the increasingly technical discussions of the parameters for making CS with increasing awe at the the minds of those of you who can figure out this stuff -- and I hope eventually someone will summarize it all for those of us who are technologically handicapped. Never fear! For someone claiming to be technologically impaired, you've acquitted yourself handsomly below. g But meanwhile I'm back to my quest to make the best CS I can with the generator I already have, which is the Bob Beck Silver Pulser, and I want to summarize what I think I know? and see if I got it or am way off base. Okay, the silver pulser outputs a modest DC voltage that turns on and off rather quickly, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if the CS generator hookup for it just lets you use the power supply directly or if it uses the pulsed output. In either case, it will produce good CS. I assume that because my generator does not limit it's power it is unlikely that I can make high ppm cs without making larger particles. If you get the ppm up high enough, the current flow will increase and you will start making larger particles. That is exactly right! It seems to me that it is agreed that larger amounts of lower ppm cs will have the same effect as small amounts of higher ppm cs (although they might not be as easy to use for a sinus infection because of having to get more up there). Yes, you simply have to use *enough*, whatever that turns out to be for you, your CS, and your condition. Using a spray bottle or nasal inhaler for the sinuses as well as taking it by mouth will probably work for you if my and others' results are an indication. Concentration does not seem critical. And it seems to me that smaller particle size probably means more effective - unless you are going after larger bugs - so I'd rather try to make smaller particle size at a lower ppm if necessary. Am I accurate in assuming that if the cs I make is gold it will have larger particles than if it is clear? So If I want smaller particles I should run the generator for less time and get a clear sol. There are two ways to get clear sol: 1) limit the current so that the particle size never gets too big, 2) don't make your CS very strong. If the CS is gold then the particles will be bigger than the clear if it was made with low current. But plenty of people have had fine results with the golden, so don't dismiss it. Of course your sol will start out clear and stay clear for a while, until you get it strong enough to notice the color. Part of that is because it is the low current part of the generating process before the current ramps up, as you suspect, and part because it's just not concentrated enough to see. The irony is many of us started out making clear CS using salt and people started hammering on it as being inferior to the golden CS. Then the High Voltage AC advocates, (and now even the the Low Voltage high tech folks) started belittling golden for not being clear like theirs is! Don't worry. What you're making will be just like the stuff many of us have used with good results. The clear sol has weaker tyndall - does that mean it probably has a lower ppm? If it's been made with low current, long slow generation, then the ppm might be even higher. In that case the tyndall is weak because the particles just don't reflect in the visible spectrum and your laser passes right through. If it's weaker because you stopped sooner, then it's just weaker, or possibly both small and weak. If you let it run 'til you get noticeable color, you'll have probably made a range of particle sizes, the largest of which should be okay if you don't try to run too long. I do know that I need to experiment with different waters and that if I find a good one then I may be able to get stronger tyndall but still have it be clear - correct? To be clear, you'd have to limit the current enough not to start making the bigger particles. Still, I'd not worry. One way to tell the *relative* purity of your water is whether it takes more or less time to start producing visible particles when starting with plain water (no starter). Longer is purer. Also, I think I am going to quit heating the water because it seems to hurry the process and end up with it gold colored quicker - which means bigger particles? Actually, Peter Lindemann, who is one of the folks who suggested heating the water, said to do it because it resulted in *smaller* particles, which he claims to have observed using electron microscopy of samples. It's not necessary, but doesn't hurt, and does speed things up. And lastly, if I bend the silver wires so that they are further apart it seems to take much longer for the tyndall to appear - is this because it is much weaker for longer or is it because they are smaller particles? Probably some of both? If they are really close together and you move them to where
Re: CS building a zapper
I am planning to build a zapper but would like to use electrodes that are taped to the body. Does anybody know where I could buy this type of electrode? They are similar to the ones used for electrocardiograms. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Art -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS building a zapper
I went to Lowes or Home Depot and bought some copper tubing of the correct diameter, cut it to the correct length and soldered end caps onto the ends. Then I drilled a hole in one end cap and put in a self tapping screw to hold the wire. Works great. Marshall Art Labrada wrote: I am planning to build a zapper but would like to use electrodes that are taped to the body. Does anybody know where I could buy this type of electrode? They are similar to the ones used for electrocardiograms. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Art -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSrabbit remedies
In a message dated 8/30/99 10:07:10 AM Central Daylight Time, myf...@mwt.net writes: Hmm. When we had rabbits we poured a little oil in their ears for ear mites. Would fur mites be the same thing? What about dusting the rabbits with diatomacious earth? This works for fleas and lice on chickens and goats, I'd think it would be the same on rabbit fur. The DE is tiny little sharp particles of sea creatures, and it cuts the shells of the bugs, and they dry out. Sparrow I wonder if it would work for mange in dogs. Both our dogs have it. I took one to the vet and he became well very quickly. We were in a round about way asked not to bring the other one to the vet again because he bit the attendant. The medication they gave us to put on him has not worked. Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSrabbit remedies
For mange try a weak solution of lime sulphur it works pretty good. I have also heard that brake fluid helps but have never tried it (50% castor oil 50% alcohol) must be the castor oil??? James H-McMillan. ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 8/30/99 10:07:10 AM Central Daylight Time, myf...@mwt.net writes: Hmm. When we had rabbits we poured a little oil in their ears for ear mites. Would fur mites be the same thing? What about dusting the rabbits with diatomacious earth? This works for fleas and lice on chickens and goats, I'd think it would be the same on rabbit fur. The DE is tiny little sharp particles of sea creatures, and it cuts the shells of the bugs, and they dry out. Sparrow I wonder if it would work for mange in dogs. Both our dogs have it. I took one to the vet and he became well very quickly. We were in a round about way asked not to bring the other one to the vet again because he bit the attendant. The medication they gave us to put on him has not worked. Edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSQuestions about making Cs
Hi everyone, I've been following the increasingly technical discussions of the parameters for making CS with increasing awe at the the minds of those of you who can figure out this stuff -- and I hope eventually someone will summarize it all for those of us who are technologically handicapped. But meanwhile I'm back to my quest to make the best CS I can with the generator I already have, which is the Bob Beck Silver Pulser, and I want to summarize what I think I know? and see if I got it or am way off base. I assume that because my generator does not limit it's power it is unlikely that I can make high ppm cs without making larger particles. It seems to me that it is agreed that larger amounts of lower ppm cs will have the same effect as small amounts of higher ppm cs (although they might not be as easy to use for a sinus infection because of having to get more up there). And it seems to me that smaller particle size probably means more effective - unless you are going after larger bugs - so I'd rather try to make smaller particle size at a lower ppm if necessary. Am I accurate in assuming that if the cs I make is gold it will have larger particles than if it is clear? So If I want smaller particles I should run the generator for less time and get a clear sol. The clear sol has weaker tyndall - does that mean it probably has a lower ppm? I do know that I need to experiment with different waters and that if I find a good one then I may be able to get stronger tyndall but still have it be clear - correct? Also, I think I am going to quit heating the water because it seems to hurry the process and end up with it gold colored quicker - which means bigger particles? And lastly, if I bend the silver wires so that they are further apart it seems to take much longer for the tyndall to appear - is this because it is much weaker for longer or is it because they are smaller particles? And what about seeding the batch with old batches of cs? That also seems to speed up the process - but is it likely to create larger particles? Thanks in advance for the info - Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSBrooks/thanks
Hi Brooks, Thanks for your post -- the information that all your volunteers were able to easily regain balance of beneficial flora once the problem was gone is very interesting. Perhaps there is still something preventing the acidophilus from being able to settle in. I'm getting retested soon, so we'll see. Thanks again. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS building a zapper
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:19:37 -0400, Art Labrada a...@pipeline.com wrote: I am planning to build a zapper but would like to use electrodes that are taped to the body. Does anybody know where I could buy this type of electrode? They are similar to the ones used for electrocardiograms. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Art Hmmm... How about soldering leads to a couple of pennies and hot-gluing them to a (couple of) velcro straps? Chuck Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three lefts do. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS building a zapper
Chuck, I am curious. Do you think of those things yourself or do you have an outside source? They liven things up. Charles King wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:19:37 -0400, Art Labrada a...@pipeline.com wrote: I am planning to build a zapper but would like to use electrodes that are taped to the body. Does anybody know where I could buy this type of electrode? They are similar to the ones used for electrocardiograms. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Art Hmmm... How about soldering leads to a couple of pennies and hot-gluing them to a (couple of) velcro straps? Chuck Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three lefts do. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMy mother passed on
Dear Marshall, My very dear next door neighbor, a kindly and to all appearances healthy woman, had an abdominal pain Wednesday, went to the dr, got prescription, then pain got worse on Friday, she went to hospital, DEAD several hours later during surgery. Everyone was shocked that she died, it came as a huge surprise. Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS4 step process
What is Beck's 4 step process? Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSwhere to get CS??
Marshall, I let mine stand for 45 minutes, is that too long? And I don't always use it right away. Is that ok? Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: Chuck's Taglines
Oh yes...this one was a laugh riot ;-) My 16 year old son (after he picked himself up from laughing) begged me to save it for my husband - I don't know...they say enough about my driving as it is Yesterday, scientists revealed that beer contains small traces of female hormones. To prove their theory, the scientists fed 100 men 12 pints of beer each. They observed that 100% of them gained weight, talked excessively without making sense, became emotional, and couldn't drive. No further testing is planned. -I have PMS and a handgun; any questions?- -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: Chuck's Taglines
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:25:22 -0500, Pam Whitmire paw...@lcc.net wrote: -I have PMS and a handgun; any questions?- Yeah! Can I have a head start?? Chuck I'm a man, But I can change, If I have to, I guess! (Red Green) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSusan - source for info on CS
Hi Susan, don't know if you still want a source for info on cs - or if anyone else already posted this - but if not there is a good compilation of articles on it under articles on the candida forum. www.healthyawareness.com/candida. Good luck, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSOff Topic/Vilik
Hi Vilik --- Your adventures with alkalinity made me so jealous that I wanted to ask you to sign me up for the alkaline list when it starts. Especially if it ends up allowing me to enjoy a margarita along with my mexican food! Humor aside, I hope you continue to feel better. take care, katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSVikki's tinkering
Hey Vikki, I, for one, am very impressed by your tinkering and hope you continue to do it because I think that the more we figure out the specifics of producing CS in a reliable manner the better. And I certainly can't figure it out. But what if it turns out that larger particles are better for some things, and smaller for others - then your work will be very useful. And my experience was that all cs was not the same . My homemade cs did not clear up my sinus infection, while the storebought did. I don't know whether it was because it had smaller particles or a much higher ppm and I therefore used much more. (by the way, for the friend you are dosing, everything I've read indicates that it doesn't matter how diluted your cs is - just how much you use - so your friend should be able to dilute it in as much juice as he/she wants to hide the taste as long as he/she sticks to the same doseage.Only it depends on where you were trying to get it to - for sinuses it works so well to hold it on your tongue and let it absorb into the local blood stream, but that's harder to do with a low ppm) Anyhow, just wanted to say thanks for tinkering. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSdie-off
I am new to this list and new to colloidal silver. My name is Jo. I am taking CS for symptoms related to the flu...however I also suffer from Candida yeast. I am now having chills, headache, sweaty moments etc.. Could this be die-off? Also do I need to supplement with acidophilus cultures with CS? I understand I wouldn't take them at the same time. Thanks so much for your help. Jo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSmold/cs test
Thanks to everyone who answered me about my mold test. I guess I realized that, as Nancy said, I don't really know what it would look like if the cs killed the mold - and that I was sort of expecting it to disappear. And I didn't put enough for it to turn pink, like Taylor's did. Now, if I'd had Wong's response - that the mold died wherever the cs touched it - then I would have been happy - since I expected it to need contact for a while in order to kill it. Wong - I think yours was working if it killed it on direct contact. So, now I'm trying a new experiment instead -- I drew lines of cs on a piece of bread and put it in with the mold. So we'll see if it gets moldy in stripes! Anyhow, thanks everyone and I'll report back. Take care, Katarina Ps. James Allison - I think Sam answerd your question? anyhow, it was my assumption that if the cs kills fungus it should kill mold if it was working. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSThank you for cat info
Thank you guys all so much for the great cat info -- it'll all be a big help next time my cat gets in a fight -- as long as I catch it in time! It's amazing how much this little week of vet visits has cost -- so I'm really glad for the info. And, Heather, that roll em up in a towel saved me a lot of scratches while irrigating her -- so thanks again. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSrabbit remedies
Edith wrote: I wonder if it would work for mange in dogs. Both our dogs have it. I took one to the vet and he became well very quickly. We were in a round about way asked not to bring the other one to the vet again because he bit the attendant. The medication they gave us to put on him has not worked. LOL!!!Sometimes dogs know better than people! (grin) It might be worth a try. I'm trying to think, mange is caused by some little critter too, isn't it? Sparrow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe[2]: CS building a zapper
Marshall and all: What you have described below is a device that will transfer electrolytic copper, tin and lead into your body every time you kill parasites et al. I strongly urge you and anyone else with copper (and especially soldered copper) electrodes on a zapper to take the time to silver-plate them and put some beneficial electrolytic metal into your body. Sam MD I went to Lowes or Home Depot and bought some copper tubing of the correct MD diameter, cut it to the correct length and soldered end caps onto the ends. MD Then I drilled a hole in one end cap and put in a self tapping screw to hold MD the wire. Works great. MD Marshall MD Art Labrada wrote: I am planning to build a zapper but would like to use electrodes that are taped to the body. Does anybody know where I could buy this type of electrode? They are similar to the ones used for electrocardiograms. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Art -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver mahine
Dear Keith, I've sent you a few posts that I kept on file. If you would like any more information, just let me know. I'll dig up something. Love Always, Deborah Sais Keith Courtenay wrote: this is a big call for some help from the land down under, a friend of mine is making the silver making machines, and 'they' have taken him to court for false statements. He stated that that in March 1978 the Americam Science Digest printed an article Silver, Our Mghtiest Germ Fighter as an antibiotic, colloidal silver kills over 650 disease causing organisms, We are trying to find a photo copy of this but no luck so far, if anyone out there could let us have a copy it would be a big weapon to fight the big fight, please send any help you can. thanks keith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSdie-off
Jo my sympathies on the herx. It really stinks but afterward you will feel much better. You can tell you have done something good for yourself. Condolences and congratulations. Mercer wrote: I am new to this list and new to colloidal silver. My name is Jo. I am taking CS for symptoms related to the flu...however I also suffer from Candida yeast. I am now having chills, headache, sweaty moments etc.. Could this be die-off? Also do I need to supplement with acidophilus cultures with CS? I understand I wouldn't take them at the same time. Thanks so much for your help. Jo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS building a zapper
Oh yes, I'm enjoying them too but I'd like to know how you change them with each email you send. Diane Charles King wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:05:42 -0700, Henry Reed pj20...@home.com wrote: Chuck, I am curious. Do you think of those things yourself or do you have an outside source? They liven things up. Thank you,no. Been collecting for years. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
