CS>OT,How old are you?
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CS>Odd smell
Okay...Now I keep smelling this spraynet like smell all the time. I never use scented stuff so it is very irritating. Is this part of the die-off deal too? Has anyone using CS ever experienced this? Very odd Jo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>die-off/thanks Heather
In that case I will not stop taking it until I *know*. thanks! Jo >My skin itched terribly when I was recovering from candida, too. I was only >using capryllic acid & acidophilus, but I would think with CS's >effectiveness, you won't have much more than a week or so of mild to >moderate itchies (everybody's different). Mine lasted 2 weeks intermittently >but I felt SO much better when it was done. Staying away from sugar, flour & >starchy veggies will help send it packing, especially if you're drinking >LOTS of water (the most important thing). Your body can't flush out the >toxins unless it's better-than-sufficiently hydrated. You will feel very >differently than you do now, so you'll KNOW when to stop. > >Good luck! >Heather > > -Original Message- >From: Mercer [mailto:birds...@bendcable.com] >Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 7:46 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>die-off > >Thanks for the response Henry, > >How long should I take CS and how long will the herx last? > >I itch all over too. > >How do I know when to stop? > >Jo > > >>Jo my sympathies on the herx. It really stinks but afterward you will >>feel much better. You can tell you have done something good for >>yourself. Condolences and congratulations. >>List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Sprains, anyone?
Dear Mr. Earle. Several years ago we conducted some rather detailed research on sprains and other related type muscle trauma. We evaluated a number of different protocols. Of all the natural/herbal type substances evaluated...salves containing Arnica Montana were the most effective. However, by far, the most effective protocol, overall, was the implementation of a modified Bob Beck type Magnetic Pulser. This device was the only modality that resulted both in immediate trauma relief.and site reduction. This protocol (a minimum of 5 minutes at approximately 1 pulse per second) was very effective in 15 out of 16 cases, with the 16th case (80 yro male) exhibiting an acceptable response, plus complete swelling reduction within 8 hours. In some cases total pain relief was achieved after three exposures (5 minutes each) over a period of 2 hours. This procedure turned out to be a splendid protocol for many types of deep-seated "soft-tissue" trauma. I posted a summary of our work sometime last year. I hope this is of use to you. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. p.s. I would have answered your post earlier, but have been away the past four days. Sam Earle wrote: > Does anyone have a natural, effective, fast remedy for a sprained > ankle? My wife stepped in a rabbit hole. We've done the RICE > (rest, ice, compression, elevation) thing, and I mixed up a paste > of MSM and CS, which seems to have had some effect. Any > suggestions? > > Best regards, > Sam mailto:sear...@ix.netcom.com > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>methicillin
Hi everybody, was just reading medscapes question of the day, and thought some of you might like to see it... In what year was methicillin introduced, and how soon after were resistant strains of Staphylococcus aureus discovered? Methicillin was introduced in 1960, and resistant strains of Staphylococcus aureus were discovered as early as 1961. In 1941, penicillin G was introduced to the medical world. By 1945, researchers had isolated resistant strains of bacteria. Other antibiotics were discovered throughout the 1950s, but bacterial resistance shortly followed. Methicillin, the first beta-lactamase-stable penicillin, was introduced in 1960. A methicillin-resistant strain of Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) was reported as early as 1961. Resistance has increased over the past 3 decades. Certain studies have reported that up to 30% of the S aureus isolates from patients in tertiary care centers have been methicillin-resistant. These strains of S aureus have plasmids that carry genes conferring resistance to many antibiotics. They are sensitive to the broad-spectrum antibiotic vancomycin. But recently, cases of reduced susceptibility to vancomycin have been reported. Source: MRSA Strikes a Child Care Center. Yours in health, James Allison --- Allisons Apothecary http://apothecary.hypermart.net Home of the $49.95 Colloidal Silver Generator
Re: CS>die-off
During my herxes I haven't itched--just headachy and generally miserable .Lasted a few days, maybe a week the first one. Mercer wrote: > > Thanks for the response Henry, > > How long should I take CS and how long will the herx last? > > I itch all over too. > > How do I know when to stop? > > Jo > > >Jo my sympathies on the herx. It really stinks but afterward you will > >feel much better. You can tell you have done something good for > >yourself. Condolences and congratulations. > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> building a zapper
have done same thing. look for hospital or medical supply stores. also check oriental medical supply catalogs such as OMS (Oriental Medical Supply, or Lhasa). If in the straight medical stores, ask about TENS electrodes. -Original Message- From: Art Labrada To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 11:19 AM Subject: Re: CS> building a zapper >I am planning to build a "zapper" but would like to use electrodes that are >taped to the body. Does anybody know where I could buy this type of >electrode? They are similar to the ones used for electrocardiograms. Any >help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. > >Best regards, > >Art > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>OT,How old are you?
Lew Fong How wrote: > > >--snip-- > > If you remembered 0-5 = You're still young > > If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older > > If you remembered 11-15 = Don't tell your age > > If you remembered 16-25 = You're older than dirt! > --snip-- > Sir, > > Scientists and philosophers have known to work out very > mind-searching formulae. How do you > work out yours ? Just a passing comment. > > With regards > > Lew > > [ Malaysia ] Hi Lew, I think your question is how was the scoring on the test set up. It looks as if four time periods were selected, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s and then items common to each period were selected for inclusion on the test list, six or seven from each time period. This age test came to me from another person, and after cleaning it up ,it was posted for our lister`s. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Using mind,was how old---
M. G. Devour wrote: > > Bob Lee wrote: > > If I understand your question, I would have to say that first I > > research the subject as thoroughly as posible. Then I focus my mind > > on it and concentrate to the exclusion of all disturbances. This is > > true for lab or written work. People often say the place could burn > > down and I wouldn`t know it. :-) > > Then, I stare off into space, let it all flow into my subconscience > and ignore it until I begin to *really* understand it! > > If that doesn't happen on schedule, I forget everything, look up, > and say "HUH? WHAT?" --snip-- Me to, :-) > > > By the way, I scored about 22 on that damn test of yours, Bob! --snip-- Your not old enough yet. Give it another 30yrs. yuk-yuk > Be well, > > Mike D. > (who's tired of thrashing around with UNIX!) Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ion size was buying CS
Ivan Anderson wrote: > > James, > go here : > http://www.tannerm.com/electrochemistry/ion_speeds/IonSpeeds.htm > Hi Ivan, In the Tanner web page on ion mobility they calculated the ion radii. Found the calculation of Ag+1 radius via the Stokes-Einstein Equation to be interesting. It shows a radii of 1.49A (0.149nm) while wave mechics shows 1.37A. A neutral Ag is considered to be 1.44A. Any thoughts on this ? Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Using mind,was how old---
Bob Lee wrote: > If I understand your question, I would have to say that first I > research the subject as thoroughly as posible. Then I focus my mind > on it and concentrate to the exclusion of all disturbances. This is > true for lab or written work. People often say the place could burn > down and I wouldn`t know it. :-) Then, I stare off into space, let it all flow into my subconscience and ignore it until I begin to *really* understand it! If that doesn't happen on schedule, I forget everything, look up, and say "HUH? WHAT?" By the way, I scored about 22 on that damn test of yours, Bob! Be well, Mike D. (who's tired of thrashing around with UNIX!) PS: It's a low volume day and we're obviously relaxing a little bit. I hope that'll be okay with folks. It's not to be overdone, but feels great once in a while. Peace. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Using mind,was how old---
Lew Fong How wrote: > Sir, > > Scientists and philosophers have known to work out very > mind-searching formulae. How do you > work out yours ? Just a passing comment. > > With regards > > Lew > > [ Malaysia ] Dear Lew, If I understand your question, I would have to say that first I research the subject as thoroughly as posible. Then I focus my mind on it and concentrate to the exclusion of all disturbances. This is true for lab or written work. People often say the place could burn down and I wouldn`t know it. :-) Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT,How old are you?
- Original Message - From: Vilik Rapheles To: Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 12:02 AM Subject: Re: CS>OT,How old are you? > > > >Sir, > > > > Scientists and philosophers have known to work out very > >mind-searching formulae. How do you > >work out yours ? Just a passing comment. > > > > > >With regards > > > >Lew > > > >[ Malaysia ] > > > > Lew! > > If this to me...not sure what you mean... > > clariify? > > ~^^V^^~ It is the derivation of the equations that attracted my curiosity. I find it interesting. It is innovative. With regards Lew > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>My turn!
Marsha Hallett wrote: > > OK, Silverlisters, here`s my contribution to the ha has for today!! > Love, > Marsha in Vallejo > > Sing to the tune of "Modern Major General" > Love it girl. bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: How old are you....
Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > Oh this was delightful! I haven't thought about most of those things > in...um...well... Hehehe, me t :-). Sometimes I *hate* getting a perfect score :-). > [ ... ] > For Females... > [ ... ] Or the days when we really did do eyes like Mimi on the Drew Cary show. > Argggh.. Exactly ! :-/. After looking at the "For Females" list, I now *firmly* feel I am more wise than old now ;-) -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net "Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen" - Edward V. Berard. Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>My turn!
OK, Silverlisters, here`s my contribution to the ha has for today!! Love, Marsha in Vallejo Sing to the tune of "Modern Major General" I am the very model of a Newsgroup personality. I intersperse obscenity with tedious banality. Addresses I have plenty of, both genuine and ghosted too, On all the countless newsgroups that my drivel is cross-posted to. Your bandwidth I will fritter with my whining and my snivelling, And you're the one who pays the bill, downloading all my drivelling. My enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming you For cracking my head open after I've been rudely flaming you. I hate to lose an argument (by now I should be used to it). I wouldn't know a valid point if I was introduced to it. My learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia, Designed to fan my ego, which is larger than Bolivia. The comments that I vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery, Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery. I say I'm frank and forthright, but that's merely lies and vanity, The gibberings of one who's at the limits of his sanity. If only I could get a life, as many people tell me to; If only Mom could find a circus freak-show she could sell me to; If I go off to Zanzibar to paint the local scenery; If I lose all my fingers in a mishap with machinery; If I survive to twenty, which is somewhat problematical; If what I post was more mature, or slightly more grammatical; If I could learn to spell a bit, and maybe even punctuate; Would I still be the loathsome and objectionable punk you hate? But while I have this tiresome urge to prance around and show my face, It simply isn't safe for normal people here in cyberspace. To stick me in Old Sparky and turn on the electricity Would be a fitting punishment for my egocentricity. I always have the last word; so, with uttermost finality, That's all from me, the model of a Newsgroup personality. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT,How old are you?
> >Sir, > > Scientists and philosophers have known to work out very >mind-searching formulae. How do you >work out yours ? Just a passing comment. > > >With regards > >Lew > >[ Malaysia ] > Lew! If this to me...not sure what you mean... clariify? ~^^V^^~ > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT,How old are you?
- Original Message - From: Tai-Pan To: Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:31 PM Subject: CS>OT,How old are you? > Hi all, > > Tried this test for age and made a 24 out of 25. Didn`t know no. 1 > > Count how many you can remember.. and then check the bottom. > >Subject: Age Barometer > > 1. Blackjack chewing gum > 2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water > 3. Candy cigarettes > 4. Soda pop machines that dispensed bottles > 5. Coffee shops with table-side jukeboxes > 6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers > 7. Party lines > 8. Newsreels before the movie > 9. P.F. Flyers > 10. Butch wax > 11. Telephone numbers with a word prefix (Olive -6933) > 12. Peashooters > 13. Howdy Doody > 14. 45 RPM records > 15. S&H Green Stamps > 16. Hi-fi's > 17. Metal ice trays with levers > 18. Mimeograph paper > 19. Blue flashbulbs > 20. Beanie and Cecil > 21. Roller skate keys > 22. Cork popguns > 23. Drive-ins > 24. Studebakers > 25. Wash tub wringers > > If you remembered 0-5 = You're still young > If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older > If you remembered 11-15 = Don't tell your age > If you remembered 16-25 = You're older than dirt! > > Bless youBob Lee > -- > oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast > l...@fbtc.net > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour Sir, Scientists and philosophers have known to work out very mind-searching formulae. How do you work out yours ? Just a passing comment. With regards Lew [ Malaysia ]
RE: CS>die-off
My skin itched terribly when I was recovering from candida, too. I was only using capryllic acid & acidophilus, but I would think with CS's effectiveness, you won't have much more than a week or so of mild to moderate itchies (everybody's different). Mine lasted 2 weeks intermittently but I felt SO much better when it was done. Staying away from sugar, flour & starchy veggies will help send it packing, especially if you're drinking LOTS of water (the most important thing). Your body can't flush out the toxins unless it's better-than-sufficiently hydrated. You will feel very differently than you do now, so you'll KNOW when to stop. Good luck! Heather -Original Message- From: Mercer [mailto:birds...@bendcable.com] Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 7:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>die-off Thanks for the response Henry, How long should I take CS and how long will the herx last? I itch all over too. How do I know when to stop? Jo >Jo my sympathies on the herx. It really stinks but afterward you will >feel much better. You can tell you have done something good for >yourself. Condolences and congratulations. >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>test, please ignore...
Hot Damn! If you're actually interested in what I'm doing here... You'll notice that in my previous two replies to the original "test, please ignore..." in the first I left the footer text in the quoted message. In the second, I deleted the stale footer text from the quoted message like a well behaved netizen. In the first case, smartlist did *not* redundantly repeat another extra copy of the footer below the one in the quoted message. In the second case, it *did* append the footer like it's supposed to. I did seem to break the code that adds the footer temporarily, as you can see from my other "testing..." message. No footer. Oops! I need to go buy a copy of UNIX for Dummies, damn it. Poking around in this stuff without knowing what all those tittles and jots do is damn dangerous. And nerve wracking! Be well, all! Mike D. (knows just enough to be dangerous!) > This'll give me a clue if what I'm doing actually works... > > > Mike's tinkering with list settings... > > > > > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@mail.id.net ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CS>test, please ignore...
This'll give me a clue if what I'm doing actually works... > Mike's tinkering with list settings... > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>test, please ignore...
Maybe I broke it and maybe I didn't. This'll give me one clue... > Mike's tinkering with list settings... > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or > unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ]
CS>testing...
Did I break the list?
CS>test, please ignore...
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RE: CS>Ion size was buying CS
Hi Ivan, Thanks much for the links. The Tanner's site is a great resource. Very concise and practical. I am short-handed at the Plumbing Co. and have little time to work on the silver. I continue to have difficulties adjusting the start conductivity of the water. My incoming tap water has inexplicably changed from about 230 PPM TDS to 24. Our City system is fed by a mixture from a rainwater reservoir blended with several wells with about 14 grains hardness. The still feedwater is supplied by a residential RO unit. It previously has been putting out about 24 PPM and is now down to 11. This has dropped the still output to between 0.1 and 0.2 PPM. This reduces the yield. I have been attempting to adjust start conductivity with CaCO3, a saturated solution which over months continues to rise in PPM, now stabilized at almost 50 PPM. However, when I use this, a bit too much of it causes a runaway (current?) process toward the end of 2.5 hour runs, resulting in beautiful delicate turbinate ( 3 D spirals) pale tan clouds, and some fallout. Sometimes just gray. Also, the electrode plate is much blacker and has faint yellow blotches after a run. Bruce is puzzled. My machine/water is the only one he has seen which does not yield about 10 PPM in 1.5 hours. An unknown ancestor of mine must have disturbed the wrong tomb. At 2.5 hours, I get between 7 and 9 PPM. Can you recommend any resource to find the specific technique for particle size UV absorption tests? Your RGB unit sounds like a good tool. When I get a particle size test(s) made---by whatever method---I could send you a sample to try with the device which might be the beginning of a calibration. Thank you very much for responding to my questions, and let me know whenever it becomes too much of a distraction from your own interests. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 7:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Ion size was buying CS James, go here : http://www.tannerm.com/electrochemistry/ion_speeds/IonSpeeds.htm Sorry about the math :-/ I don't know who could conduct these measurements, but Zeta potential can be measured in a similar manner. Its a matter of timing the migration of an ion across a field as viewed under a microscope and then plugging the numbers. This looks interesting also: http://www.che.wsu.edu/modules/berquist/electrophoresis.html but may not be of much use. Yes spectrophotometry should work, once calibration has been established. I have made a small immersible unit which uses an RGB led and photodiode, but which is not of much use in definitive measurement until I can find a cheapish way to establish particle size. A non-antibiotic drug habit is whole lot more fun too, so I've been told... Cheers - Ivan - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 1999 10:03 Subject: RE: CS>Ion size was buying CS > Good stuff Ivan... > > Could you direct me to basic info on "The electrophoretic method may be a > better way to determine particle size,..." I have seen the term but cannot > recall how it works. How does the price compare with TEMs?---tests, of > course, not the instrument. > > Also, Bob Berger said that one method of determining particle size is to > measure absorption in the UV range with a Spectrophotometer. > Are you familiar with that technique? If I can get TEM pix of my size, I > might be able to correlate that with UV Spec. readings in some rough sort > of way...enough to verify that I am producing a good sol. Perhaps. > > Of course that means buying a new tube and filter for the old Spectronics > 20. Sometimes I think it would be easier to have a non-antibiotic drug > habit... > > James Osbourne, Holmes > > a...@trail.com > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ion size
Me again James, Find out who has one of these instruments: http://www.malvern.co.uk/autosizer4700.htm and Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ion size was buying CS
James, go here : http://www.tannerm.com/electrochemistry/ion_speeds/IonSpeeds.htm Sorry about the math :-/ I don't know who could conduct these measurements, but Zeta potential can be measured in a similar manner. Its a matter of timing the migration of an ion across a field as viewed under a microscope and then plugging the numbers. This looks interesting also: http://www.che.wsu.edu/modules/berquist/electrophoresis.html but may not be of much use. Yes spectrophotometry should work, once calibration has been established. I have made a small immersible unit which uses an RGB led and photodiode, but which is not of much use in definitive measurement until I can find a cheapish way to establish particle size. A non-antibiotic drug habit is whole lot more fun too, so I've been told... Cheers - Ivan - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 1999 10:03 Subject: RE: CS>Ion size was buying CS > Good stuff Ivan... > > Could you direct me to basic info on "The electrophoretic method may be a > better way to determine particle size,..." I have seen the term but cannot > recall how it works. How does the price compare with TEMs?---tests, of > course, not the instrument. > > Also, Bob Berger said that one method of determining particle size is to > measure absorption in the UV range with a Spectrophotometer. > Are you familiar with that technique? If I can get TEM pix of my size, I > might be able to correlate that with UV Spec. readings in some rough sort > of way...enough to verify that I am producing a good sol. Perhaps. > > Of course that means buying a new tube and filter for the old Spectronics > 20. Sometimes I think it would be easier to have a non-antibiotic drug > habit... > > James Osbourne, Holmes > > a...@trail.com > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: How old are you....
How howdy doody? Best Regards, Robert Ratliff SE Tenn. bobratl...@iname.com -Original Message- From: Vilik Rapheles [mailto:vi...@peak.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 3:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: How old are you Oh this was delightful! I haven't thought about most of those things in...um...well... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>silver mahine
Hi Deborah' Please if you will,send me the info also for just in case. Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: How old are you....
Oh this was delightful! I haven't thought about most of those things in...um...well... How about the little candies that looked like potatos, coconut rolled in cinammon... Good and Plenties...(do they still have those?)... The strip of little candy dots on paper... little wax coke bottles with syrup in them... Gene Autrey... The Lone Ranger... The Loretta Young Show... Kate Smith singing "when the moon comes over the mountain..." Johnny Ray... Fabian, Paul Anka, Frankie Avalon... American Bandstand (the original out of Philly, with Christine Corelli and Bob Clayton as the sexiest couple...) The original Mickey Mouse club, with Cubby and Karen and Annette Funicello before she had boobs...or a nose job... margarine that you had to push a little spot to color... butcher shops with sawdust on the floor... taverns with a separate lady's entrance and lady's tables... little girl tap dancers who bent over backwards and picked up a hanky in their teeth... For Females... Talking about which Beetle was the handsomest and your favorite... Setting your hair with orange juice cans and beer... Beehives... hearing the story about the roaches that lived in a woman's beehive... carrying mad money on dates... Feeling all...funny...when Elvis gyrated... Wanting to look like Natalie Wood... Wearing bras with pointy tips... Argggh.. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT,How old are you?
Hi all, Tried this test for age and made a 24 out of 25. Didn`t know no. 1 Count how many you can remember.. and then check the bottom. Subject: Age Barometer 1. Blackjack chewing gum 2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar water 3. Candy cigarettes 4. Soda pop machines that dispensed bottles 5. Coffee shops with table-side jukeboxes 6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers 7. Party lines 8. Newsreels before the movie 9. P.F. Flyers 10. Butch wax 11. Telephone numbers with a word prefix (Olive -6933) 12. Peashooters 13. Howdy Doody 14. 45 RPM records 15. S&H Green Stamps 16. Hi-fi's 17. Metal ice trays with levers 18. Mimeograph paper 19. Blue flashbulbs 20. Beanie and Cecil 21. Roller skate keys 22. Cork popguns 23. Drive-ins 24. Studebakers 25. Wash tub wringers If you remembered 0-5 = You're still young If you remembered 6-10 = You are getting older If you remembered 11-15 = Don't tell your age If you remembered 16-25 = You're older than dirt! Bless youBob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>OT, God's getting better
The little girl was sitting in her grandfather's lap as he read her a goodnight story. From time to time, she would take her eyes off the book and reach up and touch his wrinkled cheek. By and by, she was alternately stroking her own cheek and then his again. Finally, she spoke: "Granddaddy, did God make you?" "Yes, Sweetheart," he answered; "God made me, a long time ago." "Oh," she said. Then, "Granddaddy, did God make me, too?" "Yes, indeed, Honey," he assured her. "God made you, just a little while ago." "Oh," she said. Feeling their respective faces again, she observed, "God's getting better at it now, isn't He? --- EnjoyBless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>silver mahine
See Also: Colloidal Silver A Literature Review: Medical Uses, Toxicology and Manufacture John W. Hill, DC. Clear Lake Press PO Box 1068 Rainier, WA 98576 US 360 446 1036 maybe at: WWW.Wwmagic.com/clearlake James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Deborah Sais [SMTP:debo...@swpc.net] Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 7:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>silver mahine Dear Keith, I've sent you a few posts that I kept on file. If you would like any more information, just let me know. I'll dig up something. Love Always, Deborah Sais > Keith Courtenay wrote: > > this is a big call for some help from the "land down under," a friend of mine is making the silver making machines, and 'they' have taken him to court for false statements. He stated that that in March 1978 the Americam Science Digest printed an article Silver, Our Mghtiest Germ Fighter as an antibiotic, colloidal silver kills over 650 disease causing organisms, We are trying to find a photo copy of this but no luck so far, if anyone out there could let us have a copy it would be a big weapon to fight the big fight, please send any help you can. > > thanks keith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Another Zapper schematic
Hello. If you're thinking about building your own Zapper, you might check out this "free" circuit. Note it's designed for multiple users, but by using just one of the multiple outputs and deleting the others, it now becomes a "single-user" Zapper. Note also it uses a much lower frequency, around 3kHz, not the 30kHz Hulda Clark's original Zapper circuit used. Recent tests seem to indicate a much lower frequency from 30kHz is more effective. The circuit is simple and parts are available from any of the normal mail-order electronics houses (Digi-Key, Mouser, Jameco, TechAmerica,etc.). I've built this circuit for my own experimentation, and it worked just fine for me. I decreased the output series resistor to 100 ohms from the original 1kohms to give a hotter output. I built it in a small throwaway clear plastic box I had sitting around; in fact it will fit in my shirt pocket. For electrodes I used a small square of aluminum foil with the end of the wire stripped back and the foil wrapped around the bare wire end, then the whole think covered with a small piece of cotton cloth that you dip in salt water before use. I use wrist bands with the electrodes inserted under each band, placed over the artery where you normally feel your pulse on the inside of the wrist. With a wrist-to-wrist area for the zapping to occur in, I believe that gives a good coverage. I use my Beck-circuit zapper the same way, for the past year, with no problems. Of course you could use the Clark-recommended copper pipe handheld electrodes, but that forces you to do nothing while holding the electrodes during the zapping period. With the wrist positioning, I can walk around, type, fix dinner, etc., while getting my daily dose of "zapping"! Your particular body might not like the hotter zapping current by using the 100 ohm output resistor--you might be advised to start with the original circuit's 1000ohm output resistor. If you have any electronics construction skills, you can make your own zapper yourself for well under $20., plus it's a nice feeling to use something you built yourself, just like your CS generator you may have built! Oh yes, you're probably wondering where to find this Zapper circuit: http://www.adcomtronics.com/bigzap.htm Note: if a recent post about boycotting alleged Satanist activities offended you, then be advised the author of the BigZapper circuit makes no effort to hide the fact he's a Christian. You might be offended by this one, too. Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Ion size was buying CS
Good stuff Ivan... Could you direct me to basic info on "The electrophoretic method may be a better way to determine particle size,..." I have seen the term but cannot recall how it works. How does the price compare with TEMs?---tests, of course, not the instrument. Also, Bob Berger said that one method of determining particle size is to measure absorption in the UV range with a Spectrophotometer. Are you familiar with that technique? If I can get TEM pix of my size, I might be able to correlate that with UV Spec. readings in some rough sort of way...enough to verify that I am producing a good sol. Perhaps. Of course that means buying a new tube and filter for the old Spectronics 20. Sometimes I think it would be easier to have a non-antibiotic drug habit... James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [SMTP:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>Ion size was buying CS - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Sent: Sunday, 29 August 1999 07:16 Subject: RE: CS>buying CS > Covalent radius is still larger than 1.26 A., at 1.34. If the size is > 1.26, that could be one atom only of ionic silver; not a cluster of > atoms with a charge---regardless of the consequences of that. And, 1.26 > may be smaller than one silver ion. I use web elements for reference: http://www.webelements.com/ who note that the covalent radius is 153 pm (1.53 A). Yes, silver ions (Pauling radius of silver ion 1.26 A). The electrophoretic method may be a better way to determine particle size, due to the fact that samples for electron microscopy must be dried before scanning, which possibly leads to changes in particle structure. The electrophoretic method measures the speed of particles under the influence of a potential in a liquid medium (water). Then applies some equations, to calculate the effective radius of the particle. The size of the silver ion is found to have a radius of 0.145nm (1.45 A) by this method. > When I made sol with 3 9V batts, a lot of it fell out of solution, so some > of it must be quite a bit larger than 1.26 A. There's the rub, whilst silver leaves the anode and enters the sol as single ions, how long they stay discrete and in what form they ultimately find equalibrium depends on the configuration of the generating parameters. These are the very variables we struggle with daily on the list. It can be assumed (in my opinion) however, that few if any silver sols contain single ions but rather particles of two or more ions. Of course there are other particles which may enter the sol via the cathode build up. > I want to see a picture of the stuff with a nm scale in it. Does anyone > have one? I think there will be a wide range of sizes present; and that > could be a good thing. You're not going to get one are you ;-) > James Osbourne, Holmes Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
