CSCan CS help me in this case?

1999-10-18 Thread Terence
Hi,

Terence here from Malaysia.
I just subscribed to this list just now.
I would like to get 2 bottles of CS to help
me out with my gastrointestinal upset.

THE PROBLEM
--
2 years back, I bought 2 bottles of friendly bacteria
supplement from a website. After just 2 days taking the
supplement, I got diarrhea, excessive rumbling noises in my intestine,
gas, and loose stool.

A few days later aftering taking that ( 2 years ago ) , I notice I cannot
tolerate milk anymore. I was wondering why? I thought these friendly
bacteria is suppose to provide
some health benefits, but it gave me all the opposite effect.

Soon, I am not able to take sugar ( about 5 months later ), wheat and etc.

I have gone to specialist,, done stool test , colonscopy and endoscopy.
They concluded that I have nothing wrong, and name my symptoms IBS
Irritable bowel Syndrome.

But I knew that is not the problem.

I believe he product that I bought is untested or contaminated.

The website that I bought from CLOSE within months after I bought.
It shows that there is something wrong with the product.

Please be assured that I do not have any gastrointestinal upset or
allergies before taking that 2 bottles of untested friendly bacteria
supplement.

In conclusion, I believe the untested / comtaminated frinedly bacteria that
I took has
1) damaged the microvillus in my intestine. The microvillus is responsible
for absorbing nutrients and producing digestive enzymes. When there is lack
of digestive enzymes like lactase ( to breakdown lactose) , the intestine
will get diarrhea
because the lactose cannot be brokedown, but end up in the colon and etc.
Same goes to sugar ( sucrase, and maltase )

That is why I cannot take these food that contains lactose, wheat, sugar
anymore.

2) the bacteria that I took from the bottle , is possibly laboratory grown
to be resistant to general antibiotics. I notice that when I take
tetracyline
and Flagyl antibiotics it does not treat at all.

3) The website shutdown is a simple reason that there is something wrong
with the product I took 2 years ago.

4) This untested / contaminated friendly bacteria ( may not even be friendly
bacteria )
is causing more damage to the host ( intestine) than to provide any
benefits.

-
Solution,

I hope Colloidal Silver can kill those contaminated friendly
bacteria
that is giving me so much problem. Because I suspect
that the contaminated friendly bacteria that I took 2 years
ago is laboratory grown to be resistant to general antibiotics,
and still adhering on the intestinal walls and causing damages,
CS would be helpgul in this case.

-
Question.

Is Colloidal Silver efficient in treating this kind of problem?
Yes, I am quite angry because I am getting painfully health problem because
somebody sold me some unreliable comtaminated health product
that gives me a so much problem.

David from http://www.pure-silver-colloid.com has helped me
to see my problem, and I thank him a lot.

Thank you.


Regards,
Terence.

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Re: CSVortex made easy

1999-10-18 Thread RON BRENNEN
David Bolin wrote:
 
 Hey Ron,
 In which hemisphere are you doing your drinking??
 
 David

 Northern
 Ron

 RON BRENNEN wrote:
 
  I feel much better after drinking the water spun clockwise. I have
tried it both ways.
Ron
 
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Re: CSRe: Silver is in!

1999-10-18 Thread Marsha Hallett



In a message dated 10/17/99 7:16:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Dear Marsha,
I would like some.
Thanks,
nancy


Dear Nancy,
Alrighty! Send me a private email with your address, and some lovely shiny
silver will be winging its way to you shortly!
I`ll send mine too...
Marsha


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Re: CSRe: Silver is in!

1999-10-18 Thread Marsha Hallett



What is the cost?

Teresa


Dear Teresa,
Hi! I charge 5 bucks for 2 five-inch pieces of .999 fine, 14 gauge wire,
enough for one CS generator. If you want some, send an address for me to
mail it to!
Marsha


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Re: CSRe: Silver is in!

1999-10-18 Thread Marsha Hallett
Just want to let the following know that their silver is ready to mail
tomorrow!
Diane Bagley
Martha Lile
and
4 sets to Nell Walker

Gee, I love doing this! Knowing someone else is gonna get well again!! :o)
Marsha
PS, Just gotta tell the world:
My middle son will be home in 11 days! Haven`t seen him for two years!!
Yay!


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #636

1999-10-18 Thread James Allison
- Original Message -
From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #636

 Dear James, Instead of charging 50 bucks for a generator, why don`t you
just
 tell folks how to make CS themselves with 20 bucks worth of parts???
 Oh, yeah, I remember, you want to make money off them...
 Marsha


And now you're charging 5 bux for 10 inches of silver?  Who's making money
now?  :)

A heffalump never forgets -Poo Bear

Yours in health,
James Allison

Allisons Apothecary
http://apothecary.hypermart.net
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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #668

1999-10-18 Thread Charles King
On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:40:00 -0400, Jeffrey A. Madore k...@uconect.net
wrote:

Thanks so much for your response. One last question: In generating CS with 
HVAC,
is the positioning of the above water electrode verticle, such that the gap is 
between
the end of the electrode and the water?
YES!
Would anyone know the quickest way to get .999 silver?
Get it from Marsha. You won't have to deal with a $25 minimum order then.

Chuck
 HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is
  used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive parts not far from
  the object we are trying to hit.


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread Marsha Hallett


 Dear James, Instead of charging 50 bucks for a generator, why don`t you
just
 tell folks how to make CS themselves with 20 bucks worth of parts???
 Oh, yeah, I remember, you want to make money off them...
 Marsha


And now you're charging 5 bux for 10 inches of silver?  Who's making money
now?  :)


Dear James,
Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
 Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
that several times.
Love,
Marsha, who only wants to help.

Marsha


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CSConstant current generators

1999-10-18 Thread Fred
True, Trem, you should not be beating your own drum!
I am not knocking you but trying to clarify for the others:

Constant current is widely used and as simple as one 
transistor or I.C and a resistor, like the National LM334Z
and a 6.8 ohm resistor to give 10 ma DC.  It is a 40 Volt
device but easy to series and/or parallel. Transistors
are good for many amps up to 1,200 volts.There are of
course many others, all in the $1 range. Tandy even has
simple booklets on making constant current circuits.

I must challange you endorsement of distilled water - we
have measured 100's of gallons and it is not uncommon
to find 15PPM or more. Deionized water on the other hand
is never over 1PPM. The difference of course is whether
you make compounds of silver or a colloid of silver. Stability
is product related, not water,  it is very high with ions
(charged particles) and very low with non-charged crystals or
insoluable compounds - gravity gets them in time.

The cost is the same! You may be lucky enough to find a
local water supplier that both distills and deionizes afterwards.
Some of the better home stills do include a deionizer after filter.

Now, to correct myself, I had suggested before using a Brita
deionizer filter cartridge to clean up marginal water but now 
find they have included a mess of fine activated charcoal 
(stays suspended for days) and takes a few gallons to flush out
(as they suggest). The recent cartridge I bought turned 0.3PPM
water into 67PPM, due to the suspended carbon particles. It took
a gallon before it dropped below 5 PPM. With a suggested life of
35-40 gallons, it would treat many 100's of gallons of poorly distilled
water. The carbon may not be any problem, except for generators
like ours that monitor PPM and turn off automatically - I.E. a long 
flushing cycle before any benefit is gained.

Fred Peschel 


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RE: CS-Ear infection

1999-10-18 Thread O2 Communication
Just as a by-the-way - from ear to eye in one hop!!1
I had a stye in my eye the other day - and twice held the cap of a bottle
(containing 10 ppm cs) over my eye and blinked a few times.   It disappeared
in 24 hours - the stye that is!
Yvonne :o)
-Original Message-
From: Rob Lowe [mailto:r...@primus.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 1:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS-Ear infection


Hi!
My wife has an ear infection. The Doctor prescribed an antibiotic which
she is unwilling to take due to previous unpleasant experiences with thrush.
Apart from taking an increased dose of oral CS, has anyone any
experience in placing CS directly
in the ear. As a rough guess I would say that it would be safe and
effective. If you can place it directly in the eyes
then its use for ears should be effective and safe?
We use a home brewed CS which is around 10ppm.
Anyone help!
Thanks, Rob


Re: CS: Deborah: reply //a question on MSM please

1999-10-18 Thread PPeonies
 thean...@hotmail.com writes:
 MSM (methylsulfonylmenthane) is a naturally- occurring source of organic 
  sulfur with a high level of bioavailability and activity in the body.  MSM 
  orginates in the upper atmosphere, falls to earth in rain water and is 
  absorbed by plant life.
  Deborah

Hi Deborah,

Thanks for this explanation.  It has been 
my understanding that many people 
take MSM for various ailments.  It's 
been of interest to me.

Victoria
ppeon...@aol.com 



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CSpower supply

1999-10-18 Thread Tom Bellino
We have a AC adapter  120AC to 9Volt ,  500 MA . Can this be used  in place of 
a 9 volt battery?
We also have 3 l2 V 2ah batteries with charger. Is it possible to use 2 of 
these  as a power supply?
Just recently joined the list and have a ton of questions and will appreciate 
all the help I can get. Greatly confused by some of the terms used in posts.
Tom Bellino the bookmender
bookmend...@bcg.net
www.bookmenders.com   


Re: CS-Tinnitus

1999-10-18 Thread Spiroflex
I found out, eventually, that my tinnitus was related to Lyme disease. 
Doxycycline, Metronidazole and CS all increased the tinnitus AT FIRST.  
Presumably the tinnitus is part of the Lyme herxing or, in other words, due 
to a toxin resulting from the Lyme bug interacting with the meds or the CS.  As 
the Lyme bug was progressively eliminated from my body by the meds or the CS, 
the tinnitus diminished. So, in my case, initially the CS made the tinnitus 
louder but eventually the tinnitus subsided while taking the CS.
Spiroflex
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nelwyn Thurman 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 7:22 AM
  Subject: Re: CS-Ear infection


  Has anyone that you've heard of gotten any relief from tinnitis using CS?

  Nelwyn

- Original Message - 
From: fhlew 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; brpete...@msn.com.au 
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS-Ear infection


Hi, 
   You wrote: 
  1. The Auditory Apparatus: The Organ of Corti which regulates 
sound and hearing. This accounts for your  
VERY LOUD 
BUZZING sound  when unduly stimulated 




CSSubject: What is a billion in a probiotic?

1999-10-18 Thread fhlew
   Hi ,

   The European usage of the term billion is unlike that
adopted in America. This is because an American billion is equal

to a thousand million,whereas, the European billion equals a
million million.

9
Expressed mathematically,therefore,an American billion is 10 ,
whereas in
 12
Europe it is 10  .  Please be mindful of the standard  adopted
when taking
or prescribing a probiotic.

With regards
 Lew



CSenzyme info

1999-10-18 Thread Robert Ratliff
FYI


http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-044.shtml 

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
SE Tenn. 
bobratl...@iname.com

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RE: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread Robert Ratliff
5 bucks is a great price. Don't change. A satisfied customer.
Thanks for making it available for us.

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
SE Tenn.
bobratl...@iname.com

-Original Message-
From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 12:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS, to make or not to make money...




 Dear James, Instead of charging 50 bucks for a generator, why don`t you
just
 tell folks how to make CS themselves with 20 bucks worth of parts???
 Oh, yeah, I remember, you want to make money off them...
 Marsha


And now you're charging 5 bux for 10 inches of silver?  Who's making money
now?  :)


Dear James,
Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
 Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
that several times.
Love,
Marsha, who only wants to help.

Marsha


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #669

1999-10-18 Thread Jeffrey A. Madore

Hi Chuck,

Thanks so much for your response. One last question: In generating CS with HVAC,
is the positioning of the above water electrode verticle, such that the gap is 
between
the end of the electrode and the water? Or, is the above water electrode 
horizontal and
parallel with the water surface?

Would anyone know the quickest way to get .999 silver?

Thanks again,
Jeff (After 10 years with Lyme, if all is not lost, where is it? )



  Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:25:34 -0400
  From: Charles King ck...@global2000.net
  To: k...@uconect.net, silver-list@eskimo.com
  On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 08:40:31 -0400, Jeffrey A. Madore k...@uconect.net
  wrote:

  Hi Chuck,
  
  I had a few questions about your HVAC configuration and would really
  appreciate your assistance:
  First of all, search the archive, 'cause what I know was learned from threads 
I
  picked up on the list.
  
  Can you describe the positioning of the electrodes?

  On my setup, one electrode is immersed and coiled on the bottom of the jug. 
The
  other is suspended above the surface of the water by approx 1/16

  What type of jug are you using? (wide mouth? etc)
  Yes, wide mouth, approx 3/4 gal.
  What ppm did you achieve with the 9kv setup?
  Have no idea. It's effective, that's all I really care about. If you need that
  kind of info, samples can be sent to  Bob Berger on the list. He's got the
  proper equipment. The TDS1 will not measure ppm of colloidal silver.
  Bummer,'cause it only cost $15.

  Do you see an advantage with HVAC vs LVDC?
  Seem easier to control particle size, and I make a batch that lasts a month or
  more all at once.
  Nothing wrong with LVDC, I enjoy mad science!
  Where do you buy silver and what shape is best ie. wire, bar, etc?

  Get it from Marsha on the list. Then you won't have to go for a $25 minimum.

  I have a pair of 10kv oil burner ignition transformers that I want to
  try. I was considering using them both (series secondary) to produce
  20kv. Although I may start out with just one. Can you tell me what the
  configuration would look like. I guess I'm confused as to the electrode
  placement in the water, the cone effect, etc.

  As above. The cone happens when you turn on the juice. The water will rise to
  meet the suspended electrode. If it drops off, arcing will occur. I don't know
  if thats good or bad. It would happen on a straight run (no resistance in the
  circuit) after about 2 hrs. I would end the run then. My sol would be a light
  golden color, indicating satisfactory small particle size. The water would be
  hot.

  Knock yourself out! Your working with high voltage. All safety precautions
  apply. I am only relating my experiences, you're on your own!

  I am posting this to the list, as I believe it is of general interest!
  Chuck


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread Donna2424
In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:11:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
liah...@pacbell.net writes:

 ear James,
 Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
 paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
 I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
 sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
  Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
 the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
 them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
 that several times.
 Love,
 Marsha, who only wants to help.
 
 Marsha
  
Just to back Marsha up on this, when I first joined this list Marsha was the 
one who sent me a completed generator for cost.  She also included the wire.  
I have been friends with her for a long time now and she has bailed me out 
alot along the way.   Marsha is truly one of the people on this list who are 
here to help others get well, not just to make a buck.
Hugs to you Marsha,
Donna

Donna Earnest
This email contains only my opinion and should not be taken as medical advice.


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #669

1999-10-18 Thread Marsha Hallett


Would anyone know the quickest way to get .999 silver?

Thanks again,
Jeff (After 10 years with Lyme, if all is not lost, where is it? )


Dear Jeff, Yup! Just send me your address! 
Marsha


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CS[Fwd: CSHerx what ?]

1999-10-18 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Joe,
 Here is your answer.  :-)  Bob
-- 
oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
  l...@fbtc.net
---BeginMessage---
Greetings Menhirs of the CS art,

  Whats a herx reaction?

  Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction: an increase in the symptoms of a
spirochetal disease (as syphilis, Lyme diseaes, or relapsing fever)
occurring in some persons when treatment with spirocheticidal drugs is
started.
  Also called Herxheimer reaction.

  The symptoms that increase are chancres, rashes, and systemic lesions.
These are skin disturbances.

  Jarisch: 1850-1902, Austrian dermatologist
  Herxheimer: 1861-1944, German dermatologist

 As loosely used slang word on silver-list: An increase in distressful
symptoms caused by the dissolution of bacteria and viruses and resultant
release of their toxins into the bloodstream. Called a herx or herx
reaction. 
 Alleviated by reducing dosage to lower levels and allowing the body
more time to eliminate the toxins. This herx may occur with usage of
any  anti-microbal substance or drug.

  Bless you  Bob Lee
-- 
oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread James Allison
It's nice that Marsha helps people, but the point is that she bashed people
that make money from selling colloidal silver and supplies.  Now it turns
out that she makes money as well.  It's fine and dandy that she gives away
things to people that can't afford them, I have done the same in the past
(and will accept no glorification for it, as my actions will be judged not
by mere man, but a much higher source). However, if that ain't the pot
calling the kettle black, I dunno what is.

By reading this sentence, you are agreeing that the paragraph(s) above are
only an opinion, and should only be viewed as such.

Yours in health,
James Allison

- Original Message -
From: donna2...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS, to make or not to make money...


 In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:11:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 liah...@pacbell.net writes:

  ear James,
  Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what
I`m
  paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
  I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first
began
  sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my
plan.
   Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
  the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can
send
  them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
  that several times.
  Love,
  Marsha, who only wants to help.

  Marsha
   
 Just to back Marsha up on this, when I first joined this list Marsha was
the
 one who sent me a completed generator for cost.  She also included the
wire.
 I have been friends with her for a long time now and she has bailed me out
 alot along the way.   Marsha is truly one of the people on this list who
are
 here to help others get well, not just to make a buck.
 Hugs to you Marsha,
 Donna

 Donna Earnest
 This email contains only my opinion and should not be taken as medical
advice.


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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread Sinaj101

All right!!!  Time for my 2 cents now.  :)  I didn't buy my silver from 
Marsha.  I bought my silver from the same company Marsha does though.  I had 
to buy a minimum of $25.00 of it though.  If I had bought it through  Marsha 
it would have been a lot cheaper in the long run.   I have given some of it 
to friends but I still have a lot.  Marsha helped me with directions on how 
to do it and coached me for about a month to get me through the rough parts.  
She also has been one of my best friends and I owe her a lot.   Marsha is one 
of the main reasons I started silver.  She didnn't ask for money and didn't 
act like only her silver was the best like some would have done.  Before 
meeting Marsha I honestly thought all the talk about silver was just a bunch 
of selling hype to sell you something to make money off of people that were 
sick.  She is what makes me feel this list is helpful and I honestly steer 
away from the people on this list that seem to be trying to make a buck and 
what they say goes in one ear and out the other.  But because of Marsha's not 
trying to make a financial gain off of me thats why I tried it and am now in 
remission and been off abx for almost 5 months now and loving every minute of 
it.I do buy it now but its from a company that I feel is very reasonable. 
 I don't think anyone can beat a gallon for $31 plus shipping and handleing.  
It advertises to be 100ppm but in the testing someone did on this group it 
turned out to be about 80ppm which I still consider that pretty good.  I have 
been pleased with it. :)  This is just my opinion.  Thank you Marsha for all 
you have done in showing me a way to get well that didn't cost me an arm and 
a leg. 

Take care,
Janis



In a message dated 10/18/99 11:05:21 AM Central Daylight Time, 
donna2...@aol.com writes:

  Dear James,
  Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
  paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
  I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
  sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
   Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
  the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
  them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
  that several times.
  Love,
  Marsha, who only wants to help.
  
  Marsha



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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread Marsha Hallett

It's nice that Marsha helps people, but the point is that she bashed people
that make money
A LOT of money...
from selling colloidal silver and supplies.  Now it turns
out that she makes money as well.
A little bit.
 It's fine and dandy that she gives away
things to people that can't afford them, I have done the same in the past
(and will accept no glorification for it, as my actions will be judged not
by mere man, but a much higher source). However, if that ain't the pot
calling the kettle black, I dunno what is.
By reading this sentence, you are agreeing that the paragraph(s) above are
only an opinion, and should only be viewed as such.
Huh???
Yours in health,
and in HIS pocketbook...
James Allison


Dear James, You are a real snooty guy...Does Holier than thou ring any
bells?
Just my opinion of YOU!
Hate to imagine what the Higher Authority thinks of you, too.
Marsha, who is still in this just to help.
PS, I`m going to take any money I do make, and donate it to something
useful.



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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread d.linen
Thank you Janis,

I get the feeling that some people are way too sensitive if they feel
they've been criticized by others and can never let the initial hurt go.
I think that what Marsha is doing is wonderful. I also think the same of
many others on the list. If someone steps on a person's toes, it doesn't
mean that they should yell ouch forever does it? It's next to impossible
to say everything in one post that one thinks or believes. There will
always be something left out and there will always be someone who
doesn't fully understand. This is my opinion and not meant to hurt
anyone. (disclaimer here) :)

Diane

sinaj...@aol.com wrote:
 
 All right!!!  Time for my 2 cents now.  :)  I didn't buy my silver from
 Marsha.  I bought my silver from the same company Marsha does though.  I had
 to buy a minimum of $25.00 of it though.  If I had bought it through  Marsha
 it would have been a lot cheaper in the long run.   I have given some of it
 to friends but I still have a lot.  Marsha helped me with directions on how
 to do it and coached me for about a month to get me through the rough parts.
 She also has been one of my best friends and I owe her a lot.   Marsha is one
 of the main reasons I started silver.  She didnn't ask for money and didn't
 act like only her silver was the best like some would have done.  Before
 meeting Marsha I honestly thought all the talk about silver was just a bunch
 of selling hype to sell you something to make money off of people that were
 sick.  She is what makes me feel this list is helpful and I honestly steer
 away from the people on this list that seem to be trying to make a buck and
 what they say goes in one ear and out the other.  But because of Marsha's not
 trying to make a financial gain off of me thats why I tried it and am now in
 remission and been off abx for almost 5 months now and loving every minute of
 it.I do buy it now but its from a company that I feel is very reasonable.
  I don't think anyone can beat a gallon for $31 plus shipping and handleing.
 It advertises to be 100ppm but in the testing someone did on this group it
 turned out to be about 80ppm which I still consider that pretty good.  I have
 been pleased with it. :)  This is just my opinion.  Thank you Marsha for all
 you have done in showing me a way to get well that didn't cost me an arm and
 a leg.
 
 Take care,
 Janis
 
 In a message dated 10/18/99 11:05:21 AM Central Daylight Time,
 donna2...@aol.com writes:
 
   Dear James,
   Yeah, I finally have someone here (my son) who figured out for me what I`m
   paying, and all. My poor brain is terribly mathematically challenged...
   I was surprised to find that silver is cheaper now than when I first began
   sending it out several years ago, and am now making money. Wasn`t my plan.
Everyone I`ve spoken to says that five bucks is fair, for the driving to
   the PO and the postage and handling and all. If anyone disagrees, I can send
   them the silver for exactly my cost. Or free if they can`t pay. I`ve done
   that several times.
   Love,
   Marsha, who only wants to help.
 
   Marsha
 
 
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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread Marsha Hallett
Dear Janis, Please consider yourself humbly bowed to, and really hugged! :o)
Love,
Marsha

All right!!!  Time for my 2 cents now.  :)  I didn't buy my silver from
Marsha.  I bought my silver from the same company Marsha does though.  I
had
to buy a minimum of $25.00 of it though.  If I had bought it through
Marsha
it would have been a lot cheaper in the long run.   I have given some of it
to friends but I still have a lot.  Marsha helped me with directions on how
to do it and coached me for about a month to get me through the rough
parts.
She also has been one of my best friends and I owe her a lot.   Marsha is
one
of the main reasons I started silver.  She didnn't ask for money and didn't
act like only her silver was the best like some would have done.  Before
meeting Marsha I honestly thought all the talk about silver was just a
bunch
of selling hype to sell you something to make money off of people that were
sick.  She is what makes me feel this list is helpful and I honestly steer
away from the people on this list that seem to be trying to make a buck and
what they say goes in one ear and out the other.  But because of Marsha's
not
trying to make a financial gain off of me thats why I tried it and am now
in
remission and been off abx for almost 5 months now and loving every minute
of
it.I do buy it now but its from a company that I feel is very
reasonable.
 I don't think anyone can beat a gallon for $31 plus shipping and
handleing.
It advertises to be 100ppm but in the testing someone did on this group it
turned out to be about 80ppm which I still consider that pretty good.  I
have
been pleased with it. :)  This is just my opinion.  Thank you Marsha for
all
you have done in showing me a way to get well that didn't cost me an arm
and
a leg.

Take care,
Janis



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Re: CSMagnet availability

1999-10-18 Thread Tai-Pan
Vilik Rapheles wrote:
 --snip--
 How do I know
 which of the catalogues on the website to ask for?
 
   Are you familiar with David Hamill's theories about the circular magnets
 with holes that you mention here? That's what I want...
 
--snip--
 
   So can you tell me how to do water?
 
   Are you the person who put a bottle on the north magnet and one on the
 south magnet and then mixed them?
 
 ~^^V^^~

  Hi Vickie,

  Cat. No. 1300 printed 9/99. See pages 29 and 31.
 To do water, place container on the magnet, or tape magnets to sides of
container. I place a north pole under the CS while making it (healing
water).
 Lew makes seperate north and south water and mixes them. I don`t do
that. Think it would cancel out the effects (get zero). Try yourself and
see what you think.

Bless you   Bob Lee
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CSRx humor,OT :-)

1999-10-18 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Listers,
   Have a smile and a nice day.
 
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the
ark.Professionals built the Titanic.

Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good.

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.

Stupidity got us into this mess - why can't it get us out?

Love is grand; divorce is a hundred grand.

Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit
there.

Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They should both be
changed regularly and for the same reason.

An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world. A pessimist
fears that this is true.

There is always death and taxes; however, death doesn't get worse every
year.

People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them that
Benjamin Franklin said it first.

It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.

I don't mind going nowhere as long as it's an interesting path.

Anything free is worth what you pay for it.

Indecision is the key to flexibility.

It hurts to be on the cutting edge.

If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

I don't get even, I get odder.

In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.

I always wanted to be a procrastinator, never got around to it.

Dijon vu - the same mustard as before.

I am a nutritional overachiever.

My inferiority complex is not as good as yours.

I am having an out of money experience.
 
I plan on living forever. So far, so good.

I am in shape. Round is a shape.

Not afraid of heights - afraid of widths.

Practice safe eating - always use condiments.

A day without sunshine is like night.

I have kleptomania, but when it gets bad, I take something for it.

If marriage were outlawed, only outlaws would have in-laws.

I am not a perfectionist. My parents were, though.

Life is an endless struggle full of frustrations and challenges, but
eventually you find a hair stylist you like.

You're getting old when you get the same sensation from a rocking chair
that you once got from a roller coaster.

One of life's mysteries is how a two-pound box of candy can make a
woman gain five pounds.

It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to
ask you the questions.

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the
right time, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
moment.

Time may be a great healer, but it's also a lousy beautician.

Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever.

Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone.

Life not only begins at forty, it begins to show.

You don't stop laughing because you grow old, you grow old because you
stopped laughing.
 

  Bless you   Bob  Lee
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Re: CSCan CS help me in this case?

1999-10-18 Thread Charles King
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:57:28 +0800, Terence terence_...@webtrent.com wrote:

Hi,

Terence here from Malaysia.
I just subscribed to this list just now.
I would like to get 2 bottles of CS to help
me out with my gastrointestinal upset.

THE PROBLEM
--
2 years back, I bought 2 bottles of friendly bacteria
supplement from a website. After just 2 days taking the
supplement, I got diarrhea, excessive rumbling noises in my intestine,
gas, and loose stool.

Boy, if that's friendly, I'd hate to see the mean ones!


Soon, I am not able to take sugar ( about 5 months later ), wheat and etc.
But I knew that is not the problem.
I believe he product that I bought is untested or contaminated.

Certainly sounds like it!

In conclusion, I believe the untested / comtaminated frinedly bacteria that
I took has
1) damaged the microvillus in my intestine. The microvillus is responsible
for absorbing nutrients and producing digestive enzymes. When there is lack
of digestive enzymes like lactase ( to breakdown lactose) , the intestine
will get diarrhea
because the lactose cannot be brokedown, but end up in the colon and etc.
Same goes to sugar ( sucrase, and maltase )

That is why I cannot take these food that contains lactose, wheat, sugar
anymore.
Actually, that may not be a bad thing. Those foods aren't particularly good for
you anyway. (Not to minimize your situation though)

3) The website shutdown is a simple reason that there is something wrong
with the product I took 2 years ago.

4) This untested / contaminated friendly bacteria ( may not even be friendly
bacteria )
is causing more damage to the host ( intestine) than to provide any
benefits.

-
Solution,

I hope Colloidal Silver can kill those contaminated friendly
bacteria
that is giving me so much problem. Because I suspect
that the contaminated friendly bacteria that I took 2 years
ago is laboratory grown to be resistant to general antibiotics,
and still adhering on the intestinal walls and causing damages,
CS would be helpgul in this case.

That's certainly a reasonable assumption!
 If it were me, I'd make a simple generator so as to be able to make large
quantities without going bankrupt.
To get CS into the gut, I believe it would be neccessary to swamp the system
with as much as 4 to 8 ounces at a time.
 I would also (after 4 to 6 hours) try to reintroduce friendly (don't wince)
bacteria by eating unpasturized yogurt. Most lacto-intolerants can take yogurt
as it is predigested by bacteria action.
But, that's just me!
Please, whatever you do, post your progress?
Chuck
Important Things My Kids taught Me

It's more fun to color outside the lines.
If you're gonna draw on the wall, do it behind the couch.
Ask why until you understand.
Save a place in line for your friends.
If you want a kitten, start out by asking for a horse.
Making your bed is a waste of time.
If your dog doesn't like somebody, you probably shouldn't, either. 
Toads aren't ugly. They're just toads.
just keep banging until someone opens  the door.
Don't pop someone else's bubble.
You shouldn't ask to start over just because you're losing the game.
Chasing the cat is more fun than catching it.


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CSConstant current generators

1999-10-18 Thread Trem Williams
Hello Fred,

I beg to differ with you.  I said we manufacture the only constant low
current colloid generator on the market as far as we can tell.  I didn't say
constant current regulators weren't available and I didn't say anything
about persons being able to build one for themselves.  I will say that I
found it impossible to make an IC work properly down at the 1 milliampere
range so I designed the circuit we use in our generator.  It is very
sensitive in its range and is temperature compensated so it holds the
setting quite accurately.  It works over the range of 12 to 40 volts and I
might add I don't think you'll find this circuit in a Radio Shack booklet.

You mention a 10 milliampere regulating range for the IC.  My experience is
that a 10 ma. regulator would never regulate because I have never seen the
current rise that high when making CS.  Usually, 4-8 ma. is the highest and
that is when using constant VOLTAGE units, which is what most low voltage DC
generators are.  They of course do not regulate current.  For the newbies, I am
speaking about 3 or 4 - 9 volt batteries in series or a transformer
rectifier delivering the equivalent DC voltage to the electrodes.

Yes, we recommend using steam distilled water only.  Maybe we have better
distillers in our part of the country than yours because I have never found
a gallon which measures over 2 PPM using a TDS meter.  Most read 0-1 PPM.
By the way, our circuit also does double duty.  It not only regulates the
current but uses another built in circuit to use an LED as a current meter.
In our instructions we tell the customer that if the light comes on when
they first turn the unit on the water is NOT good.  The circuit is quite
sensitive to conductivity in the water and effectively acts as a TDS indicator 
of sorts.  It normally takes about 20-40 minutes for the light
to come on with 2 spacing.  We tell our customers the generator will work
with other water but the results are not predictable and the CS is not as
long lived and stable.  That was a correct statement, period.  I didn't say
it wouldn't work with other water.   What I did say was; we recommend steam
distilled water.  It is available almost everywhere.  Deionized water is
not.

Your statement that stability is product related but not water related
leaves me wondering what you're talking about.  The water is the most
critical constituent part in the process.  The silver is a given.  We all
(or most of us use .999 fine) have the same silver, so the water is what
determines whether we make compounds or colloid.  We have CS on the shelf
which is over a year old and is still colloidal with no fallout discernible.
It was made with steam distilled water.  Large particles are what generally
fall out of suspension (dispersion).  Our generators don't make large
particles because of the current regulator holding a low constant value.  My
feeling is that low current equals small particle size.  My experience seems
to prove it.  When I made CS using constant voltage, I seemed to get much
more fallout and unpredictable results.  So do most persons on the list from 
their discussions.  That's why we went to constant
current.

And I say it one more time.  I wasn't advertising.  I was answering a valid
question by a list member.  Since no one else sells a constant current
generator that I know of, who else would answer the question about constant
current?   Here's the original question by the new member.

I am also new at all this,but I'm not sure how to get my answers.I need
to know what is the best machine
to buy(reasonably priced that is) Can you make it yourself?What is this
about a constant current?Do you
have to use distilled water only?What if you can't get distilled water,will
it not work?Where can I get the best
info on all this? Thanks for putting up with us beginners :) it's really
very interesting.
Barbie

Trem

- Original Message -
From: Fred f...@health2us.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 9:24 PM
Subject: CSConstant current generators


 True, Trem, you should not be beating your own drum!
 I am not knocking you but trying to clarify for the others:

 Constant current is widely used and as simple as one
 transistor or I.C and a resistor, like the National LM334Z
 and a 6.8 ohm resistor to give 10 ma DC.  It is a 40 Volt
 device but easy to series and/or parallel. Transistors
 are good for many amps up to 1,200 volts.There are of
 course many others, all in the $1 range. Tandy even has
 simple booklets on making constant current circuits.

 I must challange you endorsement of distilled water - we
 have measured 100's of gallons and it is not uncommon
 to find 15PPM or more. Deionized water on the other hand
 is never over 1PPM. The difference of course is whether
 you make compounds of silver or a colloid of silver. Stability
 is product related, not water,  it is very high with ions
 (charged particles) and very low with non-charged crystals or
 insoluable 

Re: CSRx humor,OT :-)

1999-10-18 Thread Charles King
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:10:33 -0500, Tai-Pan l...@fbtc.net wrote:

Hi Listers,
   Have a smile and a nice day.

Thanks Bob,
Stole 'em all!
Chuck
Lead me not into temptation. I can find my own way, thankyouverymuch!


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Re: CSMagnet availability

1999-10-18 Thread THE TROLL
Hi Bob and List.

Bob -- 
If you brought the north pole of your magnet near a compass,
will the north-seeking end of the compass needle be attracted or
repelled?

There is confusion even in the scientific community about
whether the North Magnetic Pole is the Magnetic North Pole
or the Magnetic South Pole and it helps to qualify use of terms if we
relate to a magnetic compass.


David


Tai-Pan wrote:
 

   Hi Vickie,
 
 I place a north pole under the CS while making it (healing
 water).




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CS/pregnancy

1999-10-18 Thread KIM BROWN
Hi All,

Can CS be taken during pregnancy?



Kimberley Brown
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CSMagnet Poles, was magnet avail.

1999-10-18 Thread Tai-Pan
THE TROLL wrote:
 
 Hi Bob and List.
 
 Bob --
 If you brought the north pole of your magnet near a compass,
 will the north-seeking end of the compass needle be attracted or
 repelled?
 
 There is confusion even in the scientific community about
 whether the North Magnetic Pole is the Magnetic North Pole
 or the Magnetic South Pole and it helps to qualify use of terms if we
 relate to a magnetic compass.
 
 David

  Hi David,
 No problem. All magnets are *referenced* to the earths north pole.
There is only confusion among those who try to make simple things
complicated.
 This makes them appear smarter than they really are.  :-)

  The side of my magnet which SEEKS the earths north pole is marked
south. The side of my magnet which SEEKS the earths south pole is
marked north.
  We know that north poles look toward south poles and south poles look
toward north poles, opposites attract.
 When I hang my round magnet with the hole in the middle from a string
it will stop moving with its south pole pointing to the earths north
pole,like ANY compass.
 Any compass will do the same, its south pole pointing to the earths
north pole. In the early days of sailing the end of the compass that
pointed to the earths north pole would be *marked* north. The early
compasses did not have a compass card around the outside edge with
N.S.E.W. on them, so the compass needle was marked. Those who didn`t
know any better thought the end marked north was the north pole of the
needle. What it really meant was that, that end, it would *point* to the
north pole.
 Your hand held compass, when brought close to my magnet will have its
south pole point to my magnets north pole, same as it will point to the
earths north pole. There is nothing complicated about this. Opposites
will attract and like will repell.

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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread Charles King
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:50:20 EDT, zarko...@aol.com wrote:

A little more tolerance on everybody's part might go a long way in helping 
calm the waters here and get us back on track toward what we are really 
shooting for.

Just my two cents worth and please note that I am NOT taking sides here.

Jim Wright

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Re: CS, to make or not to make money...

1999-10-18 Thread ZARKON7L
In a message dated 10/18/1999 5:04:32 PM Central Daylight Time, 
ck...@global2000.net writes:

 OH YEAH
   Chuck

Yeah, not this time. Ha, ha.

Jim Wright


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Re: CSRe: where to get 0.999 silver

1999-10-18 Thread Plan2trvl
hi, you can get silver at any coin dealership..just ask for a one ounce 
ingot...i just bought one for $ 7.00.  then i cut it with a hacksaw..works 
great
steveO


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CSGeomagnetic poles

1999-10-18 Thread THE TROLL
Hi Again Folks!

I found the urls for the Earth's magnetic pole stuff.

If you go here:

 http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/potfld/faqgeom.html

You get to the Frequently Asked Questions page and at some point, one of
the links on the page takes you to here:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/potfld/img/faqpole.gif
where you can see the Earth's magnet is shown as up-side
down, the magnetic south pole is at the top.

I still haven't discovered their reasoning for this.


Later,

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CSRe: FW: Resisting U.N. Takeover of U.S.A.OT

1999-10-18 Thread RON BRENNEN
 
 October 15, 1999
 
 Ron Paul, U.S. Congressman from Texas, has introduced H.R. 1146, The
 American Sovereignty Restoration Act, to end membership of the United
 States
 in the United Nations.  The bill calls for:
 
 1)  Shutting down the U.N. headquarters in the U.S.
 
 2)  Removal of U.N. property from the U.S.
 
 3)  Cutting off all American funding of the U.N. and its agencies
 
 4)  Prohibiting U.S. funding of and participation in U.N. 'peacekeeping'
 
 operations.
 
 5)  Revoking diplomatic immunity for U.N. bureaucrats.
 
 Further information:  Dr. Paul says that
 
 1)  In 1992, the U.S. ratified the International Covenant on Civil and
 
 Political Rights -- a U.N. scam to steal U.S. sovereignty.
 
 2)  Since the U.N. was created, American taxpayers have pumped $30 billion
 
 into this hate-America socialist bureaucracy.
 
 Let's direct our calls and prayers into this situation and invoke the will
 
 of God in all these matters.
 
 P.S.  I didn't know much about Ron Paul so I went on the web and found out
 that:
 
 He is a medical doctor who is pro-life.  He claims to have delivered 4000
 babies in between spending about eleven years in Congress.
 
 In 1987, he left the Republican Party for the Libertarian Party and ran as
 that party's Presidential Candidate in the 1988 election.
 
 He has introduced the following legislation in the past couple of years
 alone:
 
 HR220, Freedom and Privacy Restoration Act (to prevent a national I.D.
 system)
 
 HR516, Know Your Customer Sunset Act
 
 HR571, Human Cloning Prevention Act
 
 HR1146, American Sovereignty Restoration Act
 
 HR1148, To repeal the Federal Reserve Act
 
 His biography is located at http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.htm and complete
 info re: legislation he has sponsored is located at
 http://www.house.gov/paul/legis/welcome.htm.
 
 A quote from Ron Paul:
 
 If we stuck to the Constitution as written, we would have: no federal
 meddling in our schools; no Federal Reserve; no U.S. membership in the UN;
 no
 gun control; and no foreign aid. - Ron Paul, U.S. Congressman (Texas)
 
 Each week, Rep. Paul records a telephone message called the Legislative
 Update, available toll-free by calling (888) 322-1414. The Update focuses on
 issues facing Congress and of national interest.
 
 Ron Paul's Washington office, 1-800-335-4949
 
 Ron Paul's Legislative Update, 1-888-322-1414
 
 Ron Paul's Website, http://www.house.gov/paul/


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Re: CS/pregnancy

1999-10-18 Thread Deborah IN TEXAS

Kim, Dream Country Ragdalls.the cats?

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RE: CSVortex made easy

1999-10-18 Thread Robert Ratliff
So the water flows thru the vortex first then past the magnets?

Best Regards, Robert Ratliff
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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V99 #669

1999-10-18 Thread RAJoyce
any jewelry supply house has .999% pure silver wire or bars for sale at 
wholesale cost.


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Re: CSRe: where to get 0.999 silver

1999-10-18 Thread klkirk
Here is a diagram of the process the way I understand it.  I went out and
bought the silver today.  Everything else comes tomorrow.
http://www.homehealthresource.net/csilvergen.html

At 04:04 PM 10/18/99 -0400, you wrote:
We use in our unit the rectangular ounce bars, a
little over 1x2, which a few dealers may carry.

Hi, Fred!  Can you share how you keep the bars in place?  Currently I use
wires and since I'm generating the CS in a maynoaisse jar, I poked holes
thru the lid.  With a bit of a curl at one end of the wire, I get a place
to attach my alligator clips *and* a stopper to keep the wires from
going thru the holes.

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CSConcept of a Core Magnet, was Re: CSGeomagnetic poles

1999-10-18 Thread Tai-Pan
THE TROLL wrote:
 
 Hi Again Folks!
 
 I found the urls for the Earth's magnetic pole stuff.
 
 If you go here:
 
  http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/potfld/faqgeom.html
 
 You get to the Frequently Asked Questions page and at some point, one of
 the links on the page takes you to here:
 
 http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/potfld/img/faqpole.gif
 where you can see the Earth's magnet is shown as up-side
 down, the magnetic south pole is at the top.
 
 I still haven't discovered their reasoning for this.
 
 Later,
 
 David

  Hi David and listers,

 No problem. Many persons have seen the picture and taken its meaning
OUT OF CONTEXT. Everyone in the magnetic industry and science does it
the same way as I said in the previous post.  :-)

  Back in 1949 three professors were studying the earths magnetic field
for the defense department. Names were Sears of Dartmouth College,
Zemansky of University of New York, and Young of Carnegie-Mellon
University. I was working in the same area with detection of magnetic
anomalies at the time. Anti-sub stuff.
  These men were doing detailed studies of the earths field and to help
their conceptualization drew the crust and mantle of the earth as a
large circle with a north field at the top (north pole) and then drew a
smaller circle inside to represent the CORE of the earth. In the core
they assumed (we don`t really know) that a dipole magnet could exist
with its south pole lined up to the north pole of the mantel, and the
CORE dipole north pole lined up with the mantel south pole. Look
carefully at the picture and you will see that the CORE magnet is drawn
inside the core. The core magnet will have its poles opposing the mantel
poles. This picture, looked at out of context, has confused many
persons. The picture first appeared in the publication University
Physics, by Addison Wesley Publishing Co., an international company in
USA, London, Amsterdam, Ontario, Sydney and others. That was in 1949 on
page 602 under a discussion of the earths field. The book is right here
in front of me.
  Remember the crust/mantel north field is at the north pole and the
core south pole is right under it. Makes for a continuous magnetic loop
of mantel north to Core south--through the core to core north to mantel
south-- then through space back to the mantel north.  
  The question often comes up, why did they do this?
 In order to account for the fact that from the equator to the poles the
dip angle slowly begins to point down until it is vertical at the poles
they had to depict an opposing dipole magnet in the core of the earth.
The crust/mantel field alone could not account for the gradual dip as
lattitude increased. All a matter of vector analyses and great circle
navigation requirements, ( a bunch of math stuff).
 As for why the picture keeps showing up out of context , the writers
don`t know their subject and just keep copying each others wrong stuff,
and it goes round and round.

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