Re: CS>long and winding oxides and how to make strong clear LVDC CS
- Original Message - From: "coyote" To: Sent: Monday, 10 April 2000 03:17 Subject: CS>long and winding oxides and how to make strong clear LVDC CS Dear Ken, I hope you don't mind me saying this, but you seem to display the very same adherence to dogma that you suspect others of, that is, clinging to a belief either through ignorance or bloody mindedness. How can we have a serious discussion if you do not know the meaning of the terms you use! > > To my limited understanding, a silver ion is elemental metallic silver with an added electron giving it a positive charge. It normally has a valency of +1 therefore will tend to compound with other elements with a negative valence such as oxygen [O, -2]. *Yes, a silver ion is an elemental silver atom LESS one or more electrons and as such is no longer elemental silver. There is very little dissolved oxygen in the body of distilled water, <3ppm. O2(gas) will NOT react with elemental silver. O2(gas) is a neutral molecule. > > It is reasonable to me that the added electron of the ionic form will make that elemental silver particle even more reactive with an atom of negative valence such as oxygen forming perhaps any or all of the three possible oxides of silver which may carry different color ranges beside pure black. [I find no reference to this so it's a supposition but is supported by observation of oxide deposit formation under electrically charged conditions] *Oxygen does not exist as a single free O(-1 or-2) atom in water. There may be some formation of silver oxide at the anode but this is negligeable. > > Theory: Formation of oxide deposits depends upon the interrelationship of oxygen bubbles forming on the negative electrode [varies with vapor pressure and surface tension of the water at various temeratures which also determines bubble size and coherent ability] where the smaller bubbles have greater available surface area to form oxides, oxygen dissolved in the water [both normal airborne oxygen and ozone from ozonation purification process] and the presence of elemental ionic silver...coupled with decreasing electrical activity that varies with distance due to accumulated resistance in the water. *See above regarding O2(gas). There is no electrical activity in the water other than at the electrode/water interface. > > On the positive hydrogen emmitting pole, high vapor pressure in warm water can result in formation of large cohesive and adhesive hydrogen bubbles that trap silver ions on their surface tension...the inside surface of the bubble... that transfer to the surface tension of the water when that pole is removed making a gray floater. These bubbles also seem to insulate the pole and slow the ellectrical activity down to near nothing. > Hydrogen has a + valence as does the silver ion. They cannot combine nor can the ion readily penetrate the surface tension of the bubble. *Anode, positive electrode, oxidising, O2(gas) production, Ag+ production. Cathode, negative electrode, reducing, H2(gas) production, Ag+ reduction to Ag elemental silver. > Oxidation: Oxidation is where an element or substance combines with oxygen to form another compound. An oxidized element is no longer in it's elemental form but is an oxide compound of that element or IOW that element compounded with oxygen to form an oxide [or dioxide or trioxide etc depending on how many oxygen atoms it's valence will 'hold'] The normal oxide of silver would be Ag2O because silver has a valence of +1 and oxygen has a valence of -2, however, under electrolytic conditions, silver can form 1 or 2 other oxides for a total of three as per a previous post...one of which is, 'possibly', as a result of silver hydroxide formation going further down the reaction chain and losing its hydrogen. [I don't know for sure exactly what happens but it's possible that there's a voltage varience involved and voltage does vary or 'drop' with increasing resistance...and resistance does increase with distance through a resi stive medium such as water] *Wrong! Oxidation, the process of removing an electron so as to make an element or compound more positive. Whether two elements combine depends on the electronegativity of the elements and the Gibbs free energy sum. As stated above, the only electrochemical reactions in a solution occur at the electrode/solute interface. Electrical conduction in a solution relies entirely upon the passage of ions from one electrode to the other. There is no electron travel other than those which are attached to ions. > > There is a maximum ionic crystal size involved here too. For silver, it is .97 angstroms. The reading of what this means is confusing to me but I gather [and may be mistaken] that an ion larger than that can be formed but has a reactive radius greater than a maximum stable radius of .97 angstroms, therefore will instantly compound with any available element that has an opposite valence such as oxygen. This tells me that it's possible to have a
CS>nomenclature
Hi Ya'all, Just thought it time to steer this list back to CS and its manufacture. I appreciate all of the learned dissertations of the technical aspect but the proof is in the CS, but us common folk need to have a common language. Not like the Soviets and the USA arguing over democracy since both were using different dictionaries. The point being many of the "home brewers" are using the TDS1 and the PWT (probably most are uncalibrated to something) to measure their products and are calling the numbers read as ppm, instead of something more like microSeimens. Referring to "INSTRUMENTAL METHODS OF ANALYSIS" by Willard, Merrit, and Dean, page 720, 7.4191 grams of KCl/Kg of DW will make a solution with a conductance of 0.01117 @ 18 deg.C. and 0.01268 @ 25 deg.. C. Since potassium chloride is not readily available why not do a little math and substitute something like Morton's table salt. It is "good enough" for home measuring. With a little more home work for the wizards convert the units into say 1/4 teaspoon and ounces of water. Then increase the water content so that the people will have a 30 microSeimens standard. When that happens then instead of some SWAG estimate of the concentration of the silver ions they can speak of so many uS's at their work temperature. The solution really is temperature sensitive. My measurements show 1/6 uS per deg.. F. between 50 F. and 100 F. I recognize that this smacks of standardization, but it really is need. "Ole Bob"
Re: CS>What product is best? etc.
Also, after you have heated the water place the container on the (turned on) hot plate of a drip coffee maker to keep the water hot. Dave Perkins - Original Message - From: Nina Silver, Ph.D. To: Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 12:24 PM Subject: Re: CS>What product is best? etc. > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 2:13 PM > Subject: RE: CS>What product is best? etc. > > > > < > gratifying it is to make your own -- and how easy it can be, once you've > > ironed out the kinks. > > > Hello Nina, > > I would love to make my own! Is it easy to do? I wouldn't know the > first > > thing about it. I make rugs (hehehe)... hooked and braided, so what you > say > > about being "satisfying," is certainly understood!!! > > This is how I do it: I put distilled water into a pyrex glass measuring cup, > then place that into a shallow pan of water for a double-boiler effect. This > way the plain water in the pot heats up the distilled water but the > distilled water doesn't have to touch metal. > > Just before the distilled water is boiled (you'll see little bubbles in it), > remove it from the stove and place the silver electrodes into it and turn on > your CS maker. MAKE SURE THE SILVER ELECTRODES ARE FAR ENOUGH APART AND > COMPLETELY PARALLEL. "Far enough apart" means around an inch, and "parallel" > means bend the wires if you have to. If these two things are not done, > you'll get large silver particles on them that look like feathers. One > person on the list said he made good CS with tap water, but I wouldn't trust > tap water, certainly not my tap water. Distilled is best. > > Don't use salt in your formula. Some people do this to accelerate the > silver-making time, but a friend of mine tested silver made with salt and > found that the germicidal properties were substantially decreased. Then he > substituted baking soda, which was better; but I find that heating the plain > distilled water prepares it to "accept" the silver. > > Depending on the CS maker and how strong you like your silver, leave the > electrodes in for 1/2 hour to one hour. > > Good luck. And DO it -- I use the stuff as though it's water! For > everything! > --Nina > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>long and winding oxides and how to make strong clear LVDC CS
Hi Coyote and all; It certainly is strange but running constant voltage 27 to 36 volts with constant rapid motorized stirring I never make anything but crystal clear CS., at any ppm you want. The highest I have gone so far is 43 ppm.. I can even get that using demineralized drinking water. Where the value of good distilled water is that the T.E. must be seen in a very dark room, and then it is a very weak beam. As a retired manufacturing engineer from the electron tube and semi con. industry I never argue with what works. I have even made clear CS running at 380 v DC. Two years ago when just starting I use a monogrammed glass twice and had one h-ll of a time clening it up. so I switched to the clear hard plastic for evenything and no more plating problems. As for water temperature, my lab is 68 deg. F. and so is everythnig in it. I have offered before the "Wplot" program, shareware, and plots of what my process will produce. It still available off list. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>RE: Subject: CS>hydrogen peroxide and CS production experiment [aquicky]
Thanks... from one Kathy to another! I will dilute from now on...that is if I decide to do it again! Love, Kathy In a message dated 4*9*00 4:52:14 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: << Kathy: If you put the hydrogen peroxide up your nose just as it is from the bottle (drug store type)...then it is too strong for your nasal passages and tissues.For years we traveled in the mid-east and in remote areasI used a ratio of 1 hydrogen peroxide to 4 water.. this makes it where it does not damage your nasal tissues and is more comfortable...it helped prevent colds that we often got living in remote areas so far from a doctor Kathy Neff >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>RE: Subject: CS>hydrogen peroxide and CS production experiment [aquicky]
In a message dated 4*9*00 4:52:14 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: << Certainly sounds like you over did it a bit, but it also sounds as if you have uncovered a deep-seated infection. >> Hello Ivan, Thanks for your response. May I add that the nose experiment was done about two weeks ago and I have not done it again...but have noticed a new type of sensation in my head. It seems as though my head has a hollow (okay NO jokes!) sound, which causes and echo of sorts. I remember having this before too, when my tinnitus began 4 years ago. Perhaps it is not related to the use of the hydrogen peroxide...it seems funny though that is happening after I did my little experiment. I've been zapping a lot extra though, in case I did let some infection lose! Thanks again. Love, Kathy Hi Kathy, I do that too...once you get past the stinging, which travels through the whole sinus :-(, the sinus is left amazingly clear as you note :-) Certainly sounds like you over did it a bit, but it also sounds as if you have uncovered a deep-seated infection. Whether the illness relates to an immune response an infection clean up or invading H2O2 damage to the nasal tissue I couldn't say, but I have read where, after H2O2 therapy, tumours detached from a fellows throat and bled so much that the wound needed cauterising. I'm not saying you had a tumour!!! Just that it is possible to react with pathogenic masses with resultant bleeding. However I do urge you to be careful, I would hate to think that you are damaging your nasal tissue! Kind regards Ivan. *** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>long and winding oxides and how to make strong clear LVDC CS
There are 2 definitions: ox·i·da·tion (ok'si-da'sh?n) n. 1. The combination of a substance with oxygen. 2. A reaction in which the atoms in an element lose electrons and the valence of the element is correspondingly increased. Chuck Please, Captain, not in front of the Klingons On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 11:17:23 -0400, coyote wrote: > Oxidation: Oxidation is where an element or substance combines with >oxygen to form another compound. An oxidized element is no longer in it's >elemental form but is an oxide compound of that element or IOW that >element compounded with oxygen to form an oxide [or dioxide or trioxide >etc depending on how many oxygen atoms it's valence will 'hold'] The >normal oxide of silver would be Ag2O because silver has a valence of +1 >and oxygen has a valence of -2, however, under electrolytic conditions, >silver can form 1 or 2 other oxides for a total of three as per a >previous post...one of which is, 'possibly', as a result of silver >hydroxide formation going further down the reaction chain and losing its >hydrogen. [I don't know for sure exactly what happens but it's possible >that there's a voltage varience involved and voltage does vary or 'drop' >with increasing resistance...and resistance does increase with distance >through a resistive medium such as water] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide and CS production experiment [a quicky]
At 10:51 AM 4/9/00 +1200, you wrote: >Hi KD'C, > >What strength H2O2 are you using, I would guess 3% as you put some in >your mouth without burning it! ## Yup, 3% right from the drugstore > >I have posted experiments (along with others) in the past, using 50% >H2O2. If you care to check the archives, you may find the answers to >most of your questions there. > >H2O2 does react with pure metallic silver, in fact passing high >concentration H2O2 through a silver mesh is a method used in DIY >rocket engines! ## YOW! 3% h202 didn't react [noticeably] immediately with the fresh silver but eventually turned the silver quite black. > >A small length (10mm) of new silver wire was left in 100mls of 50% >H2O2 for a few days. A small stream of bubbles emanated from the >silver and the concentration of silver ions in the solution increased >from zero to well above 20ppm, as measured by Ion Selective Electrode >(ISE). There was no silver oxide. ### Mine turned really black overnight. If that isn't silver oxide, what is it? A mystery here. Catalytic reaction too fast in 50% to make silver oxides? > >A nasty brew of dirty grey (inclusion of large uncharged metallic >colloids, emanating from the cathode) CS was created, there was much >fallout on the bottom of the container. Some of this colloid was >taken, to which a few ml of 50% H2O2 was added. A great cloud of >minute bubbles formed immediately, which were so small that the >solution looked milky, and the Tyndal beam showed a shower of >sparklies. >Within a few hours the solution was completely clear, showing very >little Tyndal effect. The concentration of silver ions increased as >the solution cleared. >I concluded that the H2O2 oxidised the metallic silver particles as it >reduced to O2 gas and water, forming free silver ions and not silver >oxide ### I'm having trouble with the definition of oxidation. To me, when an element combines with oxygen, it has been oxidized. When wood burns, it combines with oxygen in a rapid oxidation reaction producing among other things, carbon dioxide. Silver oxidizes to form dark colored silver oxides. Reduction is the reverse of oxidation...driving off the oxygen. Am I totally confused? > >You talk of the 'oxide load', what do you mean? Is this the build up >on the neg. cathode or pos. anode, fall out on the bottom of the >container or floaters on the solution surface, or colour in the >solution? ## Buildup on the negative electrode [the oxygen producing one? I keep forgetting to check that and it's pretty important], fallout on the bottom, perhaps color in the sol...not totally proven to my satisfaction what causes that one way or the other yet... but not the floaters which retain the color of silver 'dust' and have all the characteristics of a dust on water surface tension. > KD'C >Regards >Ivan. > >- Original Message - >From: "coyote" >To: >Sent: Sunday, 9 April 2000 00:46 >Subject: Re: CS>hydrogen peroxide and CS production experiment [a >quicky] > > >> ### Interestingly, it seems that the hydrogen peroxide does not >react >> with clean silver but only attacks the oxides wedged in the pits of >an old >> used electrode. Why? I have no clue. I will now take a piece of new >silver >> and place it in h2o2 for several days and see what happens. >> >> Another oddity: [current controlled to .8ma, starting voltage at >24.5v >> winding down to 6v in approx 2 hrs] The oxides seem to form more >vigerously >> at the beginning of the process and in cool water. If the prods and >> container are cleaned about half way through, the oxide load seems >greatly >> reduced. >> If fresh ozonated water is used with cool water, oxide load is >great. >> If the water is warmed to about 100 deg F, bubbles form [dissolved >ozygen?] >> and dissipate [bubbles off] and the subsequent process shows a >greatly >> reduced oxide load. But, running with warm water increases hydrogen >bubbles >> sticking to the other prod [Perhaps something to do with increased >vapor >> pressure forming bigger more stable bubbles and surface tension of >the >> water.] and silver gets trapped on or under the surface of the >hydrogen >> bubbles making a gray fur that clings to one prod. When the prods >are >> removed, the bubbles break at the surface and some of this silver >transfers >> from the surface tension of the hydrogen bubbles to the surface >tension of >> the water and makes what I call a " gray floater". >> >> Back to h2o2 and new silver... so far, no reaction whatsoever. >> >> BTW, running the generator on straight h202 made a sour nasty >tasting >> somewhat milky liquid that foamed in the mouth. >> Momentarily, a rabid looking coyote with a sour expression. I >guess >> even with all that violent bubbling at the electrodes going on, the >o2 >> content of the h202 was pretty much unchanged. >> >> >> Getting small bubbles coming off the new silver now [20 minutes or >so]and >> some signs of gray/black tarnish and initial signs
CS>long and winding oxides and how to make strong clear LVDC CS
To my limited understanding, a silver ion is elemental metallic silver with an added electron giving it a positive charge. It normally has a valency of +1 therefore will tend to compound with other elements with a negative valence such as oxygen [O, -2]. It is reasonable to me that the added electron of the ionic form will make that elemental silver particle even more reactive with an atom of negative valence such as oxygen forming perhaps any or all of the three possible oxides of silver which may carry different color ranges beside pure black. [I find no reference to this so it's a supposition but is supported by observation of oxide deposit formation under electrically charged conditions] Theory: Formation of oxide deposits depends upon the interrelationship of oxygen bubbles forming on the negative electrode [varies with vapor pressure and surface tension of the water at various temeratures which also determines bubble size and coherent ability] where the smaller bubbles have greater available surface area to form oxides, oxygen dissolved in the water [both normal airborne oxygen and ozone from ozonation purification process] and the presence of elemental ionic silver...coupled with decreasing electrical activity that varies with distance due to accumulated resistance in the water. On the positive hydrogen emmitting pole, high vapor pressure in warm water can result in formation of large cohesive and adhesive hydrogen bubbles that trap silver ions on their surface tension...the inside surface of the bubble... that transfer to the surface tension of the water when that pole is removed making a gray floater. These bubbles also seem to insulate the pole and slow the ellectrical activity down to near nothing. Hydrogen has a + valence as does the silver ion. They cannot combine nor can the ion readily penetrate the surface tension of the bubble. Oxidation: Oxidation is where an element or substance combines with oxygen to form another compound. An oxidized element is no longer in it's elemental form but is an oxide compound of that element or IOW that element compounded with oxygen to form an oxide [or dioxide or trioxide etc depending on how many oxygen atoms it's valence will 'hold'] The normal oxide of silver would be Ag2O because silver has a valence of +1 and oxygen has a valence of -2, however, under electrolytic conditions, silver can form 1 or 2 other oxides for a total of three as per a previous post...one of which is, 'possibly', as a result of silver hydroxide formation going further down the reaction chain and losing its hydrogen. [I don't know for sure exactly what happens but it's possible that there's a voltage varience involved and voltage does vary or 'drop' with increasing resistance...and resistance does increase with distance through a resistive medium such as water] There is a maximum ionic crystal size involved here too. For silver, it is .97 angstroms. The reading of what this means is confusing to me but I gather [and may be mistaken] that an ion larger than that can be formed but has a reactive radius greater than a maximum stable radius of .97 angstroms, therefore will instantly compound with any available element that has an opposite valence such as oxygen. This tells me that it's possible to have a larger than .97 particle but it's not 100% ionic, nor is it pure silver...but is.. a partially oxidized silver particle or a silver ion crystal of .97 angstroms with a silver oxide molecule or two hanging onto it. This seems to be a sort of confirmation that: If high currents blast off larger ion clusters, these larger clusters will readily [partially] oxidize. The oxides have a color. Therefore, particle size does have something to do with color, BUT, the color is due to pigmentation from oxides not refraction. [Colors of pigments do have reflective properties due to light frequency absorption] And, we're no longer talking about pure silver ion clusters. Also, if the electrical pressure is great enough, they will blast these partially oxidizing particles straight into suspension. Observation: When running CS generator at 6ma, the water quickly turns brownish and the "ion" cloud has a brownish tinge. This seems to correlate with observations of oxide color spread when running at .7 ma where current density in volt amps is greater on the negative oxygen emmiting pole and is reduced by distance through the resistive medium [water] where the lighter oxide deposit is yellow. When running at or around 2 ma, the predominant color is light yellow and gets darker as the amperage increases. The longer it runs at any particular current, the more intense the color but the color remains the same color. Note: I have never gotten a color change in the water when running under .6 ma. and the ion cloud is always white. Why does the color stick to the glass after storing for a few weeks? [It really does] Theory: The partially oxidized particles being under brownian motion are h
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #287
^^^ Final result of the h202 experiment after sitting overnight...no more oxygen bubbles [catalytic reaction], the silver is still intact and turned quite black with silver oxides [chemical reaction].^^^ KD'C At 03:49 PM 4/8/00 -0400, you wrote: >What you are seeing is the catalytic action of silver causing H2O2 breakdown! >On a silver bar the reaction is very slow as the surface area/mass is small >while the silver atoms/crystals in the pitted surface have large surface >areas and thus react quickly! This is the basis of my prior posts of QC >test #1, >to test Cs for the presence of metallic silver. I.E. ionic Cs will not form >a single >bubble in 24 hours while poor product will in minutes. > >Your "oxide" load is reduced silver (to metallic atoms/crystals) and the >loading >is less when you get bubbles on the "prod", as they are being dispersed into >solution as free metallic particles! Test that Cs with H2O2 and you will >see the >above effect. > >f...@health2us.com > >At 10:57 AM 4/8/2000, you wrote: >> ### Interestingly, it seems that the hydrogen peroxide does not react >>with clean silver but only attacks the oxides wedged in the pits of an old >>used electrode. Why? I have no clue. I will now take a piece of new silver >>and place it in h2o2 for several days and see what happens. >> >> Another oddity: [current controlled to .8ma, starting voltage at 24.5v >>winding down to 6v in approx 2 hrs] The oxides seem to form more vigerously >>at the beginning of the process and in cool water. If the prods and >>container are cleaned about half way through, the oxide load seems greatly >>reduced. >> If fresh ozonated water is used with cool water, oxide load is great. >>If the water is warmed to about 100 deg F, bubbles form [dissolved ozygen?] >>and dissipate [bubbles off] and the subsequent process shows a greatly >>reduced oxide load. But, running with warm water increases hydrogen bubbles >>sticking to the other prod [Perhaps something to do with increased vapor >>pressure forming bigger more stable bubbles and surface tension of the >>water.] and silver gets trapped on or under the surface of the hydrogen >>bubbles making a gray fur that clings to one prod. When the prods are >>removed, the bubbles break at the surface and some of this silver transfers >>from the surface tension of the hydrogen bubbles to the surface tension of >>the water and makes what I call a " gray floater". >> >> Back to h2o2 and new silver... so far, no reaction whatsoever. >> >> BTW, running the generator on straight h202 made a sour nasty tasting >>somewhat milky liquid that foamed in the mouth. >> Momentarily, a rabid looking coyote with a sour expression. I guess >>even with all that violent bubbling at the electrodes going on, the o2 >>content of the h202 was pretty much unchanged. >> >> >> Getting small bubbles coming off the new silver now [20 minutes or so]and >>some signs of gray/black tarnish and initial signs of slight pitting. >> Looks like h2o2 reacts somewhat violently with silver resulting in oxides >>being blasted out of the pits? The rougher [more pitted]the silver, the >>more surface area available, the more violent the reaction? >> KD'C > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Make your own pure clear Colloidal Silver with a current controlled, "auto off" generator, for pennies a gallon. http://www.silverpuppy.com
Re: CS>What product is best? etc.
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: RE: CS>What product is best? etc. > < gratifying it is to make your own -- and how easy it can be, once you've > ironed out the kinks. > Hello Nina, > I would love to make my own! Is it easy to do? I wouldn't know the first > thing about it. I make rugs (hehehe)... hooked and braided, so what you say > about being "satisfying," is certainly understood!!! This is how I do it: I put distilled water into a pyrex glass measuring cup, then place that into a shallow pan of water for a double-boiler effect. This way the plain water in the pot heats up the distilled water but the distilled water doesn't have to touch metal. Just before the distilled water is boiled (you'll see little bubbles in it), remove it from the stove and place the silver electrodes into it and turn on your CS maker. MAKE SURE THE SILVER ELECTRODES ARE FAR ENOUGH APART AND COMPLETELY PARALLEL. "Far enough apart" means around an inch, and "parallel" means bend the wires if you have to. If these two things are not done, you'll get large silver particles on them that look like feathers. One person on the list said he made good CS with tap water, but I wouldn't trust tap water, certainly not my tap water. Distilled is best. Don't use salt in your formula. Some people do this to accelerate the silver-making time, but a friend of mine tested silver made with salt and found that the germicidal properties were substantially decreased. Then he substituted baking soda, which was better; but I find that heating the plain distilled water prepares it to "accept" the silver. Depending on the CS maker and how strong you like your silver, leave the electrodes in for 1/2 hour to one hour. Good luck. And DO it -- I use the stuff as though it's water! For everything! --Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS & Upper Respiratory Infection???
My newly acquired magnetic pulser has done a great job of reducing swelling in the left side of my whole head by reducing greatly the size of a subsebaceous cyst in the left cheek. CS and a zapper helped a lot but the pulser is apparently what I needed to get these encapsulated critters. I have only had this device for 5 days now and don't have any technical knowledge, but I am feeling much better already. I have "treated" the lungs a few times and have loosened up a chronic tight cough a lot. I got the pulser used from sota instruments for 100.00 total. Best wishes. gd...@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/8/00 9:23:37 PM Central Daylight Time, n8...@juno.com > writes: > > << Has anyone had an upper respiratory infection due to pneumonia? And used > CS to get rid of the infection? > > If so, could you tell me how long it took to rid yourself of the > infection? How much silver were you consuming daily in order to clear it > up? > >> > I use CS for lung infections as I have a very serious lung disease. The only > way I get relief and fast is through the use of it in a nebulizer. I believe > you need direct contact with the infectious agent for it to really work well. > I have had times when I was closing up so fast that I did not think I could > avoid the hospital only to have relief in a couple of hours. I have always > followed up with the correct antibiotic also but they take a day or so to > really get to work. > > Gene Downey > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #290
mus' be the silver - Original Message - From: Dale Shields To: Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:15 PM Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V100 #290 > In fact, Steve, you look better than the last time I saw you !! :o) > Nice picture. > > An Irish blessing: Get on your knees and thank the Lord you're on your > feet. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>What product is best? etc.
> Hello Nina, > I would love to make my own! Is it easy to do? I wouldn't know the first > thing about it. I make rugs (hehehe)... hooked and braided, so what you say > about being "satisfying," is certainly understood!!! snip > LOVE, Kathy Dear Kathy, Hey, I`m a hooker, too! The rugs, any way... :o) I have an Arabian horse rug kit waiting for me to get at it... I also make my own CS, and it is what cured me of Lyme, and a whole mess of other nasties, too. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
