CSWelcome
Hullo Beverle, Welcome. I've got to say that there is not much left after the delete finger has stopped. For me CS dosage really depends on what i want it for. I usually take about 1 teaspoon a day for maintainance ( a small sip), ranging up to three tablepoons three times a day if I am 'coming down with something'. I also take a break from CS for a few days, every week or so, if i have to take CS long term. Regards, Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMore list owner comments, PLEASE READ!
Beverle wrote: There is so much hollering and squabbling on this site Hang in there, ma'am. The list has seen better days and will again. As personalities and seasons come and go the mix changes and the social dynamics ebb and flow. We have plenty of people with valuable experiences to share who are willing to help new folks sort through the hype and find out what they need to know to try it. Right now we seem to have an over-abundance of I'm right, you're wrong in the mindset of our more active participants. I've not been involved enough lately to keep this from taking over and setting the tone. What disappoints me terribly is that this overshadows our opportunities for helping people like yourself. Which is more important, gentlemen ... ... HEALING PEOPLE OR WINNING ARGUMENTS? Jason speaks with sage wisdom in his message to this thread. Dr. Jon and others are being offensive when they claim superior results while labeling *other* products inferior or useless, products that are *proven* by long experience to be effective. Do *NOT* attempt to convince us that what we already have and know is useless, unsafe, or inferior. It just won't fly. Further, being unwilling to disclose technical details or even generalities of a process, while claiming it's superiority, will be a severe handicap to your usefulness here, and your ability to contribute *AND LEARN* from those present. This is not a forum for commercial development, recruitment, and promotion. I cannot allow people with commercial interests to engage in destructive one-upmanship. Either share your data and results and the thinking behind your conclusions, to the extent that your proprietary interest allows... ... OR MAKE NO CLAIMS OR *COMPARISONS.* The primary purpose of the list is to provide researchers and interested individuals with a place to study and learn about colloidal silver and share results and encouragement in a sheltered environment free from spam, fanatical debunking, and commercial hucksterism. To the extent that your motives are competitive and commercial, your usefulness and welcome here are limited. Let me be clear that what I'm saying applies to everyone, not just to Jon Brooks. With the press of a key I can eliminate the several people who have been setting the dominant and discordant tone of the list. In so doing I would severely injure our brain trust but may in fact increase the value of the list to those we would be able to help by restoring a more friendly and welcoming environment. On the other hand, we have the opportunity to create a powerful force for advancing the art *and* helping people by cooperating with one another. Please do not disrupt what has generally been a congenial list culture by treating others on the list as your adversaries. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
A.V.R.A---I don't know what your name or e-mail address is, but would you give me permission to pass your personal experience here on to others who would appreciate reading this? Is an oxygen nebulizer a regular nebulizer? Thank you-whomever you are. Elaine - Original Message - From: A.V.R.A colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:10 AM Subject: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Greetings all! Many of you might remember a little over a month ago the immediate onset of a lung condition I described to the group. This has been the most severe illness I personally have experienced thusfar in life. I remember one person writing, telling me that I must have a death wish for not taking myself in to the nearest hospital. To refresh, one moment I was in perfect ( apparent ) health, the next moment I experienced an incredible pain in the lower lung, right lobe. Within six hours from this first pain, I went from perfectly fine to literally unable to walk. My wife begged me to let her take me to the hospital. I refused. At this time, I could feel the fluid building up in this lung, and I knew that it was enough to demand a chest tube. I had NO immune system response. No temperature, no loss of appetite, no weight loss, NOTHING. Since I've often followed Hospitals 2000 ( now 2001 I'm sure ) yearly hospital infection reports and their compiled statistics, I figured in THIS case it was a Bad Idea to go to a hospital. With an incredible reduction in the oxygen level in my own blood, and with my immune system apparently on a vacation, I didn't want to take the risk. I remember sitting alone that night, unable to lie down because I would not be able to take a breath. If I sat perfectly still for about ten minutes, it felt as if I were completely healthy. If I raised my arm or stood to walk, I would immediately become weaker than I'd ever been in this life. Every thought was focused on taking a breath, until I sat still long enough to feel better. I can say with all honesty that I felt on the virge of death. I had to deal both with this fear, and my own personal choice. Having conquered the fear that night, I did not experience it again. However, my oxygen tank was empty, and various methods that I attempted the next morning had no effect. I used Eucalytpus oil to help with my airways, and somehow managed to get the oxygen tank filled that afternoon. That night, I was fairly desperate for air, but not as desperate as I would become the next morning. In my mind, viewing my own state of being, I felt that there was a greater fluid buildup in my lungs ( both now ), however, my lung span and the amount of oxygen I was getting seemed to be about the same, relatively speaking. I used my colloidal silver solution and gave my first try at the oxygen nebulizer that night. It wasn't until the following morning that I realized that the nebulizer use of the night before did no good whatsoever. I had used the nebulizer many times before with healthy lungs, and trying to use with this condition was COMPLETELY different. While it seemed that my lung condition remained about the same, my state of health was not. I assume the lack of oxygen was taking it's toll, and I was weakening, trembling even. This prompted a more whole-hearted effort with the nebulizer. To date, no fever, no loss of appetite, no cough response, no aching, no changes in my elimination system - everything indicated either an incredibly reduced immune system response, or none at all. I have a very fast burning metabolism, and this probably more than anything kept me going. So, on this morning, I determined that I needed to get the colloidal silver to the lower lungs, no matter how painful this might be. I'd already made peace with my maker so to speak. The first two inhalations failed. I learned I had to slowly empty out my lungs, then starve them for a bit before breathing the CS mist in. The EXACT first time I accomplished this properly, I started to feel the effects. In all honesty, I don't know how many minutes passed between that first true breath and the extreme reaction. I guess about four minutes. The reaction was the most violent reaction I've had to anything in my life. I don't know how I managed to take a breath when the effect started. There was a rush to the head, an extreme pain to the neck ( this I only noticed with hindsight ). One moment I was sitting on the floor, contemplating using the nebulizer again while trying to breath, the next, BAM! The coughing reaction was incredible to the point I must have been purple faced, my veins were elevated like long plateaus, and I really thought if I could have choked up my stomach, I would have. This lasted somewhere around 15 minutes. From that point forward, it was all downhill. I only used the nebulizer, if I remember
Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave......admitted
I would be very interested in what you did for your cat and how. I belong to a natural cat list and sometimes there is discussion of UTI. We use homeopathy but I am ignorant of cat dosage. How do you get it in the cat? Eye dropper, turkey baster? There is so much hollering and squabbling on this site - please don't think this post is a hoax. I really am interested. I have 3 beloved babies and want the best for them. Thanks in advance. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave......admitted
Hi Beverle, I'm using an eyedropper to get the CS in my cat's mouth. He has a skin condition that is being helped by the CS. Diane Beverle Sweitzer wrote: I would be very interested in what you did for your cat and how. I belong to a natural cat list and sometimes there is discussion of UTI. We use homeopathy but I am ignorant of cat dosage. How do you get it in the cat? Eye dropper, turkey baster? There is so much hollering and squabbling on this site - please don't think this post is a hoax. I really am interested. I have 3 beloved babies and want the best for them. Thanks in advance. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS-silver in olden times
Hear Ye Hear Ye; Go back to your early Americana. The pioneers when they crossed this great land placed a silver coin in the water and milk jugs to keep them fresh, and it worked. When I performed the silver test in the tropics, I mentioned that I stirred one batch of water with the silver wire and the 1000/1 petri dish was clean while the 100/1 started to show colonies. At that time Dr John Warren our lab head said all you have to do is put a few dimes (at that time they were silver) in a jug shack it up and let it sit overnight to be safe. Something D-mn well happened. What has happened to the knowledge of the ancients OLD BOB AND, it was the nobility who mainly survived the Black Plague, as they drank wine from silver vessels!!! I can see proof of that fact in my 35,000 name database of medieval genealogy. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave......admitted
I am not a doctor (I don't even play one on TV), I am not a chemist, I am not a researcher. The only thing I do know is that I use my own LVDC CS and it works I have not been sick in the 2 years that I have been taking it. I healed a brown recluse spider bite without medical intervention. I healed a third degree burn on my hand with no scarring. I avoided food poisoning that made 3 other people violently ill ( I loved saying I told you so :o). My cat doesn't get urinary tract infections anymore. As far as I am concerned, my CS is just fine and I don't have to worry about electrocution. CK Dittoes from me, too! I also make my own, LVDC, and cured Lyme Disease, 2 Brown Recluse bites, (gotcha beat... :o) as well as numerous UTIs, and other nasties. My dogs and birds get some too. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Thanks Beverly... We both are too! Any oxygen nebulizer is a bit different than the standard nebulizer one usually sees. However, to one extent or the other, both seem to work. All nebulizers have a chamber where you put medication in. Then nebulizer atomizes the particles into a fine mist. Several on this list use ultrasonic nebulizers. Others, like myself, have built one virtually by converting welding a kit. Ultrasonic humidifiers are often used as well the cheapest method, a good high capacity cool mist ultrasonic humidifier can be purchased at places like WalMart for 30.00 and under ). The oxygen nebulizer needs to be attached to a pressurized oxygen source, such as an oxygen tank, whereby 25 - 35 PSI of pure oxygen is drawn from a holding container, combined with the oxygen and compressed through a small delivery nib, which produces a very fine mist. Growing up, I was highly suceptible to lung infections. Especially bronchitis. THIS was like nothing I personally had ever experienced. There is some more information: http://silverdata.20m.com/nebulizers.html Jason - Original Message - From: Beverle Sweitzer aber...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use I am so new to all of this. What is a nebulizer? Well, I'm not that dumb. I know what a nebulizer is, I just don't understand how you use it with CS. Are they refillable? Sorry to sound so dumb, I am trying to learn about this CS stuff. I started taking CS on Monday. I don't know about all this talk about what is useless or good or whatever. I only know that I can TASTE the silver. It is yucky. It is very strong. My husband says he tastes nothing. Please continue the anecdotal information. I love it! PS I am so glad you both got better. I wonder what you had? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
I am so new to all of this. What is a nebulizer? Well, I'm not that dumb. I know what a nebulizer is, I just don't understand how you use it with CS. Are they refillable? Sorry to sound so dumb, I am trying to learn about this CS stuff. I started taking CS on Monday. I don't know about all this talk about what is useless or good or whatever. I only know that I can TASTE the silver. It is yucky. It is very strong. My husband says he tastes nothing. Please continue the anecdotal information. I love it! PS I am so glad you both got better. I wonder what you had? Dear Beverle, Will you tell me what CS you are taking? Store-bought, or home-made? How much are you taking at a time? Some folks can taste the metal, but it isn`t as bad as taking the wonderful antibiotics the docs give us, with all their side-effects... Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Certainly Elaine... You can also reference the following URL which has added safety information that I feel is important in cases where a severe lung condition is being treated. http://silverdata.20m.com/nebulizers.html I probably should go in change the name part of this email addy to my name! Jason Eaton - Original Message - From: elaine davis twobe...@onearrow.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use A.V.R.A---I don't know what your name or e-mail address is, but would you give me permission to pass your personal experience here on to others who would appreciate reading this? Is an oxygen nebulizer a regular nebulizer? Thank you-whomever you are. Elaine - Original Message - From: A.V.R.A colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:10 AM Subject: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Greetings all! Many of you might remember a little over a month ago the immediate onset of a lung condition I described to the group. This has been the most severe illness I personally have experienced thusfar in life. I remember one person writing, telling me that I must have a death wish for not taking myself in to the nearest hospital. To refresh, one moment I was in perfect ( apparent ) health, the next moment I experienced an incredible pain in the lower lung, right lobe. Within six hours from this first pain, I went from perfectly fine to literally unable to walk. My wife begged me to let her take me to the hospital. I refused. At this time, I could feel the fluid building up in this lung, and I knew that it was enough to demand a chest tube. I had NO immune system response. No temperature, no loss of appetite, no weight loss, NOTHING. Since I've often followed Hospitals 2000 ( now 2001 I'm sure ) yearly hospital infection reports and their compiled statistics, I figured in THIS case it was a Bad Idea to go to a hospital. With an incredible reduction in the oxygen level in my own blood, and with my immune system apparently on a vacation, I didn't want to take the risk. I remember sitting alone that night, unable to lie down because I would not be able to take a breath. If I sat perfectly still for about ten minutes, it felt as if I were completely healthy. If I raised my arm or stood to walk, I would immediately become weaker than I'd ever been in this life. Every thought was focused on taking a breath, until I sat still long enough to feel better. I can say with all honesty that I felt on the virge of death. I had to deal both with this fear, and my own personal choice. Having conquered the fear that night, I did not experience it again. However, my oxygen tank was empty, and various methods that I attempted the next morning had no effect. I used Eucalytpus oil to help with my airways, and somehow managed to get the oxygen tank filled that afternoon. That night, I was fairly desperate for air, but not as desperate as I would become the next morning. In my mind, viewing my own state of being, I felt that there was a greater fluid buildup in my lungs ( both now ), however, my lung span and the amount of oxygen I was getting seemed to be about the same, relatively speaking. I used my colloidal silver solution and gave my first try at the oxygen nebulizer that night. It wasn't until the following morning that I realized that the nebulizer use of the night before did no good whatsoever. I had used the nebulizer many times before with healthy lungs, and trying to use with this condition was COMPLETELY different. While it seemed that my lung condition remained about the same, my state of health was not. I assume the lack of oxygen was taking it's toll, and I was weakening, trembling even. This prompted a more whole-hearted effort with the nebulizer. To date, no fever, no loss of appetite, no cough response, no aching, no changes in my elimination system - everything indicated either an incredibly reduced immune system response, or none at all. I have a very fast burning metabolism, and this probably more than anything kept me going. So, on this morning, I determined that I needed to get the colloidal silver to the lower lungs, no matter how painful this might be. I'd already made peace with my maker so to speak. The first two inhalations failed. I learned I had to slowly empty out my lungs, then starve them for a bit before breathing the CS mist in. The EXACT first time I accomplished this properly, I started to feel the effects. In all honesty, I don't know how many minutes passed between that first true breath and the extreme reaction. I guess about four minutes. The reaction was the most violent reaction I've had to anything in my life. I don't
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
My apologies on that mistatement about the low voltage! Good point. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Ken PS The mentioned generator is controlled current at .7 to .8 ma [low current]...not exactly low voltage, though reducing voltage as the CS is made is how the current is controlled. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFwd: Dr. Jon's Special Silver FAQ's 3-19-01
Perhaps the lactic acid in milk dissolves silver as well Ken At 05:02 PM 3/21/01 -0500, you wrote: Mike wrote: Indeed, dissolving does cause ions to be added to the solution. The problem lies in the fact that silver is not water soluble. Does this invalidate the oft-quoted description of pioneers putting silver and copper coins in the water barrel to keep the water from going bad, or in the milk pitcher to keep it from going sour? I don't see why it would. Bacteria coming in contact with metallic silver is the mechanism that I believe is at work here. If the premiss is based on the notion that silver dissolves in water, then I think you are on very shaky scientific ground. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloid Surface Area
What's that black stuff that sometimes forms on the electrodes? There is at least one form of silver oxide that is produced while electroplating [might be silver trioxide or something, I can look it up again] Ken At 08:19 PM 3/21/01 -0600, you wrote: Frank; Silver oxide does not exist at room temperature. In order to make silver oxide photocells back in the 1920's the W.E. had to do it in vacuum. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
correction! The colloidal silver is drawn from the holding container from the created vacuum... not the oxygen. ( to bed by three and up by six can be detrimental to the thinking mind! ). The oxygen nebulizer needs to be attached to a pressurized oxygen source, such as an oxygen tank, whereby 25 - 35 PSI of pure oxygen is drawn from a holding container, combined with the oxygen and compressed through a small delivery nib, which produces a very fine mist. Growing up, I was highly suceptible to lung infections. Especially bronchitis. THIS was like nothing I personally had ever experienced. There is some more information: http://silverdata.20m.com/nebulizers.html Jason - Original Message - From: Beverle Sweitzer aber...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use I am so new to all of this. What is a nebulizer? Well, I'm not that dumb. I know what a nebulizer is, I just don't understand how you use it with CS. Are they refillable? Sorry to sound so dumb, I am trying to learn about this CS stuff. I started taking CS on Monday. I don't know about all this talk about what is useless or good or whatever. I only know that I can TASTE the silver. It is yucky. It is very strong. My husband says he tastes nothing. Please continue the anecdotal information. I love it! PS I am so glad you both got better. I wonder what you had? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSthe last on TEM images
TEM observation of non-ionic solutions are widely accepted. However, when highly ionic solutions are the subject of observation, compound formation so alters the observation that the results are meaningless (in my opinion). I have explained why the formation of compounds during the sample preparation becomes significant. My explanations and rational are clearly stated on my web site in the FAQ and Definition of Terms as they have been in these list postings. Clearly you reject this because of your vested interest in your TEM. I feel that further discussion on this subject is beating a dead horse. Let the readers who are interested weigh the evidence and decide for them selves. frank key http://www.silver-colloids.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRods
What did the trace turn up? Can you send me the tracking number so I can track it from this end? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFwd: Dr. Jon's Special Silver FAQ's 3-19-01
Skin has acids. That's why gun owners wipe off thier guns before storing to preserve the blueing. Ken At 07:02 PM 3/21/01 -0500, you wrote: Frank: You can also tell Dr. Flick that it is NOT possible for Ag ions to dissolve into the bosy when his bandages are applied, nor how metallic silver manages to get into the body by just having the metal applied to it! Stephen -Original Message- From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@strsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFwd: Dr. Jon's Special Silver FAQ's 3-19-01 Dean wrote: I see. So what is it that increases the conductivity of the water after a few days when a silver ingot has been added? If you believe that silver is dissolving in water, then try a simple test; 1. Using a lab balance that reads to 5 places in grams, determine the weight (mass) of a small pure silver object. 2. Place this object in pure DI water for a period of time (hours, days, etc). 3. Remove the object and again weigh it. This will tell you if you are dissolving silver in water. If silver particles don't change the conductivity, then the silver must be going into the water as ionic silver. Since silver is not water soluble, then silver ions are not being added to the water. The change in conductivity is probably the result of the addition of absorbed gasses. To test this theory, draw some pure DI water and measure its conductivity. Place part in an open container, and part in an evacuated container (vacuum or filled with an inert gas such as argon). Let both containers sit for about a few days, then measure the conductivity. The increased conductivity of the open container demonstrates the absorption of gases. I admit that my chem classes in college were some time ago, but I have been under the (probably erroneous) impression that to dissolve meant to make ions of whatever's being dissolved. Indeed, dissolving does cause ions to be added to the solution. The problem lies in the fact that silver is not water soluble. The only way to dissolve silver in water is to pass an electric current through it. This forces the removal of an orbital electron from an atom of silver changing it to a silver ion which is water soluble. frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[Fwd: Medical Privacy: copy of press release]
Marshall, I tried to copy this and send it to my group, and got a pop up box that said if I didn't fill out the forms with information, I would not be able to send or receive e mail. I freaked and got out of there. Why didn't you just copy it and send this regular e-mail. I'm allergic to attachments anyway. Why did you send an attachment??? Yucky Elaine - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: CS[Fwd: Medical Privacy: copy of press release] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #351
Hi James; I am inclined to believe Jon's invitro test for the following. In January my wife and I came down with an upper respiratory infection We took everything the M.D.'s, prescribed plus a whole bunch of CS and in three weeks we were much better. Well a week ago it had returned, and we have been advised that there is a bunch of bronchitis and pneumonia going around. I have used CS, sambucol, and even made the nebulizer from an artist spray. I have use it with protocol recommend by Brooks Bailey; 20 % DMSO, 80 % CS 10 ppm, with a dash of MSM (that tastes like hell). I have stuffed it up my nose and sucked it into my lungs and there has been very little relief. I do not cough very often but can't shack it. My wife will not use the nebulizer but has done all of the other stuff and her cough is very bad. What ever we have CS is of little value. I have seen a report that there are a few pathogens that CS will not touch. Don't remember where but will keep an eye out for it. May be its the dreid red blood cell damage that the group in Santa Fe. N.M. posted several weeks ago. The air force is really blanketing K.C. MO. are with that stuff. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[Fwd: Medical Privacy: copy of press release]
---BeginMessage--- March 22, 2001 Dear liberty activist, Here's a copy of a press release we sent to the media today via U.S. Newswire. If you haven't already signed the petition, please do so today. http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/medprivacypetition.htm Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org ** FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Thursday, March 22, 2001 Contact: Kent Snyder of The Liberty Committee, 703-241-1003 Web site: http://www.thelibertycommittee.org -- Medical Privacy Doesn't Mean Privacy In Washington -- Washington's dirty little secret is out -- the so-called 'final federal medical privacy rule' recently announced by the federal government gives us less privacy, not more, stated Kent Snyder of The Liberty Committee. Section 160.310: Grants the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services access to a person's medical information without his consent or a warrant. Section 164.512: Grants many third parties access to a person's medical information (including genetic information) without his written, informed, non-coerced (as in sign away your right to privacy or we will deny treatment) consent. Sections 164.502 and 164.506: The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has the ultimate authority to decide who can access your medical records without your informed consent. The truth is that laced throughout the 367-page federal medical privacy rule are provisions that actually give a patient less control over his own medical records than he currently has. At the same time, these regulations give federal, state, and local governmental agencies -- along with insurance companies, HMOs and others -- more access and more control than the patient himself has, Kent Snyder stated. Reacting to growing public concern, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson reopened the comment period on these deceptive privacy regulations. Unfortunately, in order for a citizen's comment to be acceptable, it must follow guidelines as to form and content -- thus ensuring that many well-meant and deeply felt concerns will be discarded as simply not in compliance. As a public service, The Liberty Committee is providing a free on-line petition that meets the guidelines for comments and reminds Washington what the true definition of privacy is. The petition can be found at http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/medprivacypetition.htm . The Liberty Committee is a nationwide, grassroots organization of over 51,000 Americans whose goal is to defend and advance liberty by restoring our national government to its constitutional limitations. -30- ** ---End Message---
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Hi-- http://silverdata.20m.com/nebulizers.html says humidifiers produce denser concentration than nebulizers, possibly too string for acute infections. Presumably, one could simply inhale at whatever distance from the humidifier yields the optimal concentration. Is the nebulizer therefore an alternative to the wastefulness of humidifiers, which necessarily produce overkill concentrations, or is the oxygen somehow synergistic with the silver protocol? --Russ
Re: CSThe List Owner speaketh:
In a message dated 3/22/01 9:51:55 AM EST, liah...@utah-inter.net writes: Subj: Re: CSThe List Owner speaketh: Date: 3/22/01 9:51:55 AM EST From: liah...@utah-inter.net (Marsha Hallett) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Dear Beverle, Good for you! Occasionally, someone comes along who has something interesting to read, so DO hang in there!! More Power Boys, listen up! You are Boing! Go off list with each other...please? Marsha: For all their (our) faults, the More Power Boys have never tried to limit the free speech of others on this list. I suggest you exercise a much greater degree of tolerance so that others can feel free to explore ANY aspect of CS that they find interesting. These narrow minded rants of yours are becoming annoying. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #351
In a message dated 3/22/01 11:22:22 AM EST, bober...@swbell.net writes: Subj: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #351 Date: 3/22/01 11:22:22 AM EST From: bober...@swbell.net (Robert L. Berger) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi James; I am inclined to believe Jon's invitro test for the following. In January my wife and I came down with an upper respiratory infection We took everything the M.D.'s, prescribed plus a whole bunch of CS and in three weeks we were much better. Well a week ago it had returned, and we have been advised that there is a bunch of bronchitis and pneumonia going around. I have used CS, sambucol, and even made the nebulizer from an artist spray. I have use it with protocol recommend by Brooks Bailey; 20 % DMSO, 80 % CS 10 ppm, with a dash of MSM (that tastes like hell). I have stuffed it up my nose and sucked it into my lungs and there has been very little relief. I do not cough very often but can't shack it. My wife will not use the nebulizer but has done all of the other stuff and her cough is very bad. What ever we have CS is of little value. I have seen a report that there are a few pathogens that CS will not touch. Don't remember where but will keep an eye out for it. May be its the dreid red blood cell damage that the group in Santa Fe. N.M. posted several weeks ago. The air force is really blanketing K.C. MO. are with that stuff. Ole Bob Bob: Perhaps mucous is covering the infected areas, preventing the CS from coming in contact with the pathogens. Does anyone know how to reduce the viscosity or surface tension of mucous. In addition, I wonder if taking a cold tablet to temporarily dry up the mucous would allow the CS to reach the infection. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
This is a great testimony! It's possible that well made CS might not have induced the same degree of pain response on inhalation. It would seem that a deep yellow CS is more irritationg to the eyes. I assume that to hold true for the lungs. I agree, it all works. Ken PS The mentioned Coyote generator is controlled current at .7 to .8 ma [low current]...not exactly low voltage, though reducing voltage as the CS is made is how the current is controlled. [snip] I also tell this story in the hopes that if someone whom is of the mind to take personal responsibility in their experiments, having read the numerous claims on the list that normal colloidal silver doesn't work, realizes that I used a very poorly brewed batch of colloidal silver, because it's all I had on hand. In fact, I filmed the process of making that EXACT batch from beginning to end, and I overburned it by about thirty minutes just to demonstrate the whole process on video. I let this 9 volt battery brew settle out for a few days ( not for any particular reason ), and later combined it with a current limited batch I had made with a Coyote low voltage generator, because I was too lazy to get a fresh container. I don't usually do this, but I was doing quite a bit of photography and film work, and I'd just finished it up. I was planning on using that CS as a base for a healing clay batch, and I didn't have a batch saved of properly made CS, I had added all THAT to essential oil spritzers. Granted, you would want the best colloidal silver possible, IF possible. I used a colloidal silver made from an example batch of how not to make colloidal silver. This stuff would have made the CS perfectionist's eyes widen, with the bajeegas crawling down the spine! ( It wasn't THAT bad, standard over-yellow rather than gold-hue, that actually wasn't potent enough to keep the yellow color when added with a low PPM 32 ounce solution ). I also say this in partial justification why I get so irritated with comments such as yellow colloidal silver is worthless. To some, they might just be words cast off without thought, just a part of a high-sounding sentance with just the right punch to get that editorial flare and oh so shining just right lead in. To me, I ask myself, If I would listen to this stuff like this, where would I be? Where would my wife be? Where would my son be? Well I for one can say, I'm sitting right where I am, and without one shed of regret! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Dear Jason, Next time you buy a bottle of Rum and apply it as alcohol inhalation therapy. This removes the garbage the chemtrails drop in there. Once the garbage is removed the cs nebulizer will be exponentialy more effective in less time. You stay on the rum in anothers presense until it is coughed out. It will be green, black, and sick looking. Michael --- A.V.R.A colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com wrote: Greetings all! Many of you might remember a little over a month ago the immediate onset of a lung condition I described to the group. This has been the most severe illness I personally have experienced thusfar in life. I remember one person writing, telling me that I must have a death wish for not taking myself in to the nearest hospital. To refresh, one moment I was in perfect ( apparent ) health, the next moment I experienced an incredible pain in the lower lung, right lobe. Within six hours from this first pain, I went from perfectly fine to literally unable to walk. My wife begged me to let her take me to the hospital. I refused. At this time, I could feel the fluid building up in this lung, and I knew that it was enough to demand a chest tube. I had NO immune system response. No temperature, no loss of appetite, no weight loss, NOTHING. Since I've often followed Hospitals 2000 ( now 2001 I'm sure ) yearly hospital infection reports and their compiled statistics, I figured in THIS case it was a Bad Idea to go to a hospital. With an incredible reduction in the oxygen level in my own blood, and with my immune system apparently on a vacation, I didn't want to take the risk. I remember sitting alone that night, unable to lie down because I would not be able to take a breath. If I sat perfectly still for about ten minutes, it felt as if I were completely healthy. If I raised my arm or stood to walk, I would immediately become weaker than I'd ever been in this life. Every thought was focused on taking a breath, until I sat still long enough to feel better. I can say with all honesty that I felt on the virge of death. I had to deal both with this fear, and my own personal choice. Having conquered the fear that night, I did not experience it again. However, my oxygen tank was empty, and various methods that I attempted the next morning had no effect. I used Eucalytpus oil to help with my airways, and somehow managed to get the oxygen tank filled that afternoon. That night, I was fairly desperate for air, but not as desperate as I would become the next morning. In my mind, viewing my own state of being, I felt that there was a greater fluid buildup in my lungs ( both now ), however, my lung span and the amount of oxygen I was getting seemed to be about the same, relatively speaking. I used my colloidal silver solution and gave my first try at the oxygen nebulizer that night. It wasn't until the following morning that I realized that the nebulizer use of the night before did no good whatsoever. I had used the nebulizer many times before with healthy lungs, and trying to use with this condition was COMPLETELY different. While it seemed that my lung condition remained about the same, my state of health was not. I assume the lack of oxygen was taking it's toll, and I was weakening, trembling even. This prompted a more whole-hearted effort with the nebulizer. To date, no fever, no loss of appetite, no cough response, no aching, no changes in my elimination system - everything indicated either an incredibly reduced immune system response, or none at all. I have a very fast burning metabolism, and this probably more than anything kept me going. So, on this morning, I determined that I needed to get the colloidal silver to the lower lungs, no matter how painful this might be. I'd already made peace with my maker so to speak. The first two inhalations failed. I learned I had to slowly empty out my lungs, then starve them for a bit before breathing the CS mist in. The EXACT first time I accomplished this properly, I started to feel the effects. In all honesty, I don't know how many minutes passed between that first true breath and the extreme reaction. I guess about four minutes. The reaction was the most violent reaction I've had to anything in my life. I don't know how I managed to take a breath when the effect started. There was a rush to the head, an extreme pain to the neck ( this I only noticed with hindsight ). One moment I was sitting on the floor, contemplating using the nebulizer again while trying to breath, the next, BAM! The coughing reaction was incredible to the point I must have been purple faced, my veins were elevated like long plateaus, and I really thought if I could have choked up my stomach, I would have. This lasted somewhere around 15 minutes. From that point forward, it was all downhill. I only used the nebulizer,
Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave......admitted
I mix CS in the cats canned food every morning to keep flea allergy wounds from turning into furless patches. The cats still have flea allergy but no longer lose hair over it. The bites remain just bites. Otherwise, they never get sick at all. Ken At 06:36 AM 3/22/01 -0500, you wrote: I would be very interested in what you did for your cat and how. I belong to a natural cat list and sometimes there is discussion of UTI. We use homeopathy but I am ignorant of cat dosage. How do you get it in the cat? Eye dropper, turkey baster? There is so much hollering and squabbling on this site - please don't think this post is a hoax. I really am interested. I have 3 beloved babies and want the best for them. Thanks in advance. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave......admitted
Might I point out: Even if yellow CS is worthless, Yellow CS is not all yellow. The concentration of the yellow sized particles are in the minority with the sizes attributed with a clear CS and the ratios is quite as variable as the depth of the color. Even if ionic silver is worthless, there is still a percentage of colloid in any batch. There are many variables that affect ion to particle ratios and particle size in both HVAC and LVDC systems. Even the same outfit often produces variable results, but just because there may be more of one element present in one batch doesn't mean those elements aren't present in the next. Since LVDC is easily available and easily made by anyone, any drawbacks such as high ionic content become irrelevant unless they are actually harmful. Besides, no one has stated what sort of LVDC process was used to determing ion to particle rations. There are many ways to make LVDC colloidal silver and all of them make a somewhat different product. Just changing water temperature affects the ion to particle ratios...even drastically. I strongly doubt that the stated ratios are in any way gospel or that what happens to ionic silver is completely understood. The body has the ability to sort things out and use what it can while eliminating the rest. That one sort of CS is maybe more powerful doesn't mean that all other sorts are worthless or even significantly less effective. Bottom line, ain't nothing all one way. Ken At 10:07 PM 3/21/01 -0700, you wrote: Dr. Jon et al: I can only judge by the information that you have provided in a subject in which I am very familiar. You state in your newsletter the yellow colloidal silver is useless. That is an outright lie. And you have been made aware of both the proofs and the references associated with the proofs. What about that one person who, because the I am God doctor says so, refuses to use the colloidal silver and dies from a simple non-responsive lung condition or an external infection that could have been prevented? With what arrogance do you assume you can walk into a field, spit on the people who have dedicated DECADES to this research, without expecting some animosity in return? On one hand, you state anecdotal evidence is worthless ( in a private email to me ) and yet, a week later, you give colloidal silver to a person whom experiences good results and say seeing is believing. You are in a position of power and that should make you geometrically more aware and responsible for that which you print. You claim authority with the use of a title. When people claim authority, perhaps I am old-fashioned, but I expect them to wear the mantle as responsibly as possible. Ego complexes come in many forms. We all have our share, as is evident in the recent postings to this list. In your research, you don't have to destroy something which you really don't have any experience with. You could learn ALOT from the people here on this list, they are good people. You don't have to AGREE with everything. But with-holding judgement because you don't KNOW is a sign of wisdom. If I were in your shoes, the issue between different types of colloidal silver generators, whether or not which types of CS work or don't and to what extent - all this would be irrelevant. Your business and your focus is on the work YOU are doing. If you must venture into this OTHER arena, then you should give it the respect it deserves. However, since it seems you are working on something which seems to you to be superior, you should focus on this. I guarantee you that almost EVERYONE on this list would embrace a true breakthrough in CS production. Being open and friendly goes a long way in the world. I don't see why so many people have a problem with saying I don't know. There's ALOT I don't know. If someone asks me something, I don't quote what I read someplace else and say YES, you see, this is not right because... I say, I read here that xyz. However, I personally have never done these tests, or I personally have not concluded one way or the other... or I'm not really in a position to say... There is a big difference between information, data, experience, wisdom and truth. It's wise to not slam doors that don't need to be slammed. Taking the high road morally is not the same as accepting responsibility, even though it might make oneself feel good. I am VERY interested in colloidal silver particle research. I think any work done in this arena is most excellent, and I look forward to adsorbing as much information as possible. I also think Frank Key has a great mind, and I wish, the same, that he would simply complete his work, so that the PRODUCT will speak for itself. If you all were doing this the old fashioned way, locked in a room with lab equipment and pads of paper, there would be bloody noses - AND ultimately best friends - as the result. This media restricts some of the dynamics of human interaction. We SHOULD keep in
Re: CSFwd: Dr. Jon's Special Silver FAQ's 3-19-01
Ode Coyote's remark brought to mind the requirements for the manufacture of electron tubes (radio tubes to most people), at Western Electric. At one time I was the Engineering Department Chief for the manufacture of such items. Almost all of the parts that make up an electron tube are gold plated with 24 K gold, because it is basically inert. However we required the ladies to wear finger cots (like the fingers from a rubber glove) because during their monthly period the salt plus whatever on their fingers would tarnish the gold and ruin the tubes. Ole Bob Ode Coyote wrote: Skin has acids. That's why gun owners wipe off thier guns before storing to preserve the blueing. Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V101 #351
Roger; The protocol described by Brooks Bailey was designed to allow CS to penetrate the mucus of the lungs. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS and Cats
I just add CS to her water bowl. I don't measure, just dump some in. I suppose it is about 2oz in a small water bowl. It probably holds a 1 1/2 cups of water. I also stopped using straight tap water. I use filtered water. As a side note, she prefers her water with the CS in it. When I first started giving it to her, I put down two bowls of water. One with CS and one without. I was afraid that if she did not like the water, she would not drink at all. The only one she drank out of was the one with the CS in it.I even switched the bowls of water, just to see if she would only drink out of her regular water bowl. It made no difference. She went for the CS every time. The other day, I filled her bowl and did not put CS in it and she stood by her bowl and complained until I added the CS. I guess she knows what she likes :o). CK - Original Message - From: Beverle Sweitzer aber...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave..admitted I would be very interested in what you did for your cat and how. I belong to a natural cat list and sometimes there is discussion of UTI. We use homeopathy but I am ignorant of cat dosage. How do you get it in the cat? Eye dropper, turkey baster? There is so much hollering and squabbling on this site - please don't think this post is a hoax. I really am interested. I have 3 beloved babies and want the best for them. Thanks in advance. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSfw: Who Decides What Drugs Are Forced on Children?
Hi Russ, This area of law is under intensive research by a large number of loosely networked groups. It is best procedure is uncertain at the present time; a work in progress. It is Commercial Law, which is the dominant controlling law on the planet at the present time. It is ancient maritime merchant law operative at most levels as The Uniform Commercial Code. Although there are minor variations, all governments are and citizens are controlled by essentially the same version. Right Way Law, (1-800-699-0818) and The Aware Group( http://www.theawaregroup.com/ ) are very active in this work. A book is available from The American's Bulletin: @ 541-779-7709. Not Cheap: 100 clams, but a bargain for the research contained. Good newspaper too, though some of the material is written by non-professional journalists. Additionally: Richard Standrings group; VIP (513) 641-2221 or 81 Request Catalog. Fantastic Level III CD. In care of 5904 Vine Street Cincinnati, Ohio 45216. See: www.Taxableincome.net See: www.redemptioninlaw.org Search for: Jack Cohen There is probably somewhere in your area a small group studying these matters. Be prepared to experience severe distortion of your present reality framework. JOH -Original Message- From: Arthur Rambo [mailto:alltogether...@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSfw: Who Decides What Drugs Are Forced on Children? How can I address and correct that hidden contract? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -Original Message- From: Russ Rosser [mailto:russros...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSfw: Who Decides What Drugs Are Forced on Children? Until that hidden contract is addressed and corrected they can do with you what they damn well please. Hi, James-- What strategy for this are you leaniong toward nowadays, WRT taxation ct. venue? Regards, Russ Rosser tel: (256) 546-5945 fax: (256) 547-7098 cel: (256) 390-1439 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsore throat
Electricity across insulted area (avoiding jugular vie/carotid artery) using salt water sponges connected to battery terminals or CS maker, zapper or (theoretically risky) DC power supply. Most dramatic anti-infective! --Russ On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:59:57 +1300 Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz writes: Hello My husband has had a really sore throat for about 10 days now. Nothing else, just his throat. He has been gargling with CS and then swallowing it. He is also taking Vitamin C and GSE. Nothing much is working. It lessens in severity, then comes back again. I was wondering if he has Strep throat. Can anyone tell me about Strep throat? I am just wondering if I am doing him a disservice by telling him not to go to the doctor, as I have heard Strep throat can be life threatening. Can anyone help please. Regards Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave......admitted
I'm using an eyedropper to get the CS in my cat's mouth. He has a skin condition that is being helped by the CS. Thank you. With my little generator I usually make it for the 10 ppm length of time. Is that pretty standard for a cat, too? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe List Owner speaketh:
What are you using CS for? I still take it daily as a preventive, and I use it for my Pug dogs and birds. I am using it for myself and my husband as preventive, also. My husband is one of those fellows that usually says I don't know if you ask him if he thinks something is helping, but the 3rd day on CS he mentioned that he thought a burn (from hot food) in his mouth had gone away mighty fast. I am going to try it on all 3 of my kitties, but I have one that I think it will help the most. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS and Cats
Is this after a taste, or can she detect the CS by smell or other sense? Marshall Kehoe wrote: I just add CS to her water bowl. I don't measure, just dump some in. I suppose it is about 2oz in a small water bowl. It probably holds a 1 1/2 cups of water. I also stopped using straight tap water. I use filtered water. As a side note, she prefers her water with the CS in it. When I first started giving it to her, I put down two bowls of water. One with CS and one without. I was afraid that if she did not like the water, she would not drink at all. The only one she drank out of was the one with the CS in it.I even switched the bowls of water, just to see if she would only drink out of her regular water bowl. It made no difference. She went for the CS every time. The other day, I filled her bowl and did not put CS in it and she stood by her bowl and complained until I added the CS. I guess she knows what she likes :o). CK - Original Message - From: Beverle Sweitzer aber...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave..admitted I would be very interested in what you did for your cat and how. I belong to a natural cat list and sometimes there is discussion of UTI. We use homeopathy but I am ignorant of cat dosage. How do you get it in the cat? Eye dropper, turkey baster? There is so much hollering and squabbling on this site - please don't think this post is a hoax. I really am interested. I have 3 beloved babies and want the best for them. Thanks in advance. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave......admitted
Beverle, I don't know the PPM of my CS. I put what I make in their drinking water but he needed something extra and now his fur is growing back nicely. Beverle Sweitzer wrote: I'm using an eyedropper to get the CS in my cat's mouth. He has a skin condition that is being helped by the CS. Thank you. With my little generator I usually make it for the 10 ppm length of time. Is that pretty standard for a cat, too? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS density?
I guess the density is in my head. The stuff I make exibits a definite fast 'drop' to halfway down the tumbler. It had to drop quickly when decanted from the half gallon 'generator jar' too! There is a definite rubbery metallic taste at that halfway point. Though the . ingot was supposed to be what was rolled out, I am wondering if sterling might have been substituted. The 'bite' of the silver metallic taste in my first 'generator' a couple of years ago did not (if I remember correctly) exhibit the rubbery flavor (or possibly the drop downwards in the tumbler either). I am using 12 volts 'currently'...DC games transformer...no 'starter' and it runs about three hours in a half gallon with terminals about 2 inches apart (average). Comments Other question: anyone have a list of 'illegal' medical terms on colloid or zappers.??? Del
Re: CS and mice and now my chooks
Judith, do you use Albon on the chicks for coccidiosis? That clears it up fine in dogs, pups. Nancy... - Original Message - From: Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: Re: CS and mice and now my chooks I have one very spry chook that never seems to clear up coccidiosis despite several attempts with CS in the drinking water- it could be that she keeps getting reinfected as the stuff lives in the soil. We have finally had rain [plus the coldest day in March for 50 years - talk about contrast!]... do you think that if I sprayed the ground in the cage where I keep this hen that it would help. Normally a chook dies from this disease - this one hasn't and so I have kept her out of sheer curiosity. She has the diarrhoea all the time - and I think she is even laying! Coccidiosis has a distinct odour to it. I've got this hen separated to just the group I bought her with. Judith. - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: Re: CS and mice In a message dated 3/19/01 9:32:03 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CS and mice Date: 3/19/01 9:32:03 PM EST From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Feeding pure 10 ppm CS to mice with short intestinal lengths, probably ended up killing the bacteria they need in their intestines to digest food, and starved to death. I have found that small animals (especially insects) are vulnerable to being killed this way, even though for large mammals it is not a problem. Marshall Marshall: Under such conditions, how long would it take for mice to starve to death? Perhaps Terri could provide more info particularly about any change in their droppings, and how long they lived after starting the CS. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Greeetings, I don't believe it says too dense for acute infections. The density of the mist causes it to line the throat to the point of complete condensation. I'm sure the same thing happens as the colloidal silver enters the lungs.With the oxygen nebulizer, the mist more readily enters the deeper portion of the lungs. I'm not sure that backing away from the humidifier is a solution. Again, the humidifiyer certainly works, but not like the oxygen nebulizer. I'm CERTAIN the pure oxygen is a contributing factor as well! The O2 nebulizer does use quite a bit less than the humidifier. Jason - Original Message - From: Russ Rosser To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:24 AM Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Hi-- http://silverdata.20m.com/nebulizers.html says humidifiers produce denser concentration than nebulizers, possibly too string for acute infections. Presumably, one could simply inhale at whatever distance from the humidifier yields the optimal concentration. Is the nebulizer therefore an alternative to the wastefulness of humidifiers, which necessarily produce overkill concentrations, or is the oxygen somehow synergistic with the silver protocol? --Russ
CSHermangoimas and Vascular Malformations
-- Hemangiomas are benign vascular anomalies which may occur in various areas throughout the body with 50% being located in the head and neck. Vascular anomalies are the most common head and neck tumor in infancy and childhood with hemangiomas and lymphatic malformations comprising the majority of these lesions. -- Has anyone heard of the above conditions? and is CS effective in treating it? If not, would it be otherwise harmful? I have a friend whose baby is afflicted with one or other of these conditions and also thrush was mentioned too. If CS would be useful to her, I would like to give her what she needed. Dick Go to www.nite.org and become enlighten about INCOME TAXES. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMore list owner comments, PLEASE READ!
Mike D. You should be a diplomat. I wish I could articulate like you do without ruffling anyone's feathers. I don't really understand what these techie types are talking about and I hope they don't stop for sometime we will benefit from their debates. Dick Go to www.nite.org and become enlighten about INCOME TAXES. - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Re: CSMore list owner comments, PLEASE READ! Hi all, It's always hard to strike a balance with my remarks. When one thing has gotten out of hand and I take a swat at it, other things often rise up to take its place. Such it is with Marsha and Roger nipping at each other. (Hi folks!) The mo power folks have sorta filled the void left when much of the OT chatter got shunted to the silver-off-topic-l...@yahoogroups.com ... The particular set of conflicts took on too much weight, what with nothing like Jason's testimonial and Beverle's questions to focus us. Now, I hope we'll see the casual users come back out of hiding as we rein in the tech guys a little -- without hammering the technical discussions out of existence either! I don't see the need for a single purpose list, so I don't agree with Marsha that the other guys should disappear. When they start hammering each other, yes, but not when they're behaving themselves. But what happens if nobody says anything about the simple stuff and our willingness to help new people? What just happened is what happens! All the helpful folks disappear and newcomers see only the technical discussions (however well or il-behaved they may be at the moment). It's usually been my job to pipe up once in a while to remind everyone, and inform the lurkers, that we have a dual role to fill here and that their basic questions are essential if we're going to be able to help them get what they need. If I'm too busy to do that, which I have been, I think it's time to ask some of you to step into the cheerleader role... Jason? Ivan? Marsha? Any of a number of you are well suited to the task. If there are no basic threads being worked, and it's been a day or two of nothing but tech stuff, it's time to chime in with an anecdote or comment and an invitation for questions. No need to play list-cop or criticize anything else that's going on (talk to me instead!). The tech guys'll keep doing their job if we just let'em. Nope, just a reminder for any new folks that stumble in to start askin' questions if they want to get some help. Is it starting to make some sense folks? My availability will rise and fall with my obligations here. I hope that I can get some of you seasoned veterans to help keep us in balance. Share the duties so nobody's under pressure, but take some responsibility for keeping the equilibrium going. I welcome your feedback, folks. Be well, Mike D. da owner... [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: Medical Privacy: copy of press release
Anyone interested in Medical Privacy? I guess there is still time to sign a petition. Go to www.nite.org and become enlighten about INCOME TAXES. - Original Message - From: The Liberty Committee l...@thelibertycommittee.org To: Liberty Activist libertyactiv...@mjx.thelibertycommittee.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:42 AM Subject: Medical Privacy: copy of press release March 22, 2001 Dear liberty activist, Here's a copy of a press release we sent to the media today via U.S. Newswire. If you haven't already signed the petition, please do so today. http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/medprivacypetition.htm Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org ** FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Thursday, March 22, 2001 Contact: Kent Snyder of The Liberty Committee, 703-241-1003 Web site: http://www.thelibertycommittee.org -- Medical Privacy Doesn't Mean Privacy In Washington -- Washington's dirty little secret is out -- the so-called 'final federal medical privacy rule' recently announced by the federal government gives us less privacy, not more, stated Kent Snyder of The Liberty Committee. Section 160.310: Grants the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services access to a person's medical information without his consent or a warrant. Section 164.512: Grants many third parties access to a person's medical information (including genetic information) without his written, informed, non-coerced (as in sign away your right to privacy or we will deny treatment) consent. Sections 164.502 and 164.506: The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has the ultimate authority to decide who can access your medical records without your informed consent. The truth is that laced throughout the 367-page federal medical privacy rule are provisions that actually give a patient less control over his own medical records than he currently has. At the same time, these regulations give federal, state, and local governmental agencies -- along with insurance companies, HMOs and others -- more access and more control than the patient himself has, Kent Snyder stated. Reacting to growing public concern, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson reopened the comment period on these deceptive privacy regulations. Unfortunately, in order for a citizen's comment to be acceptable, it must follow guidelines as to form and content -- thus ensuring that many well-meant and deeply felt concerns will be discarded as simply not in compliance. As a public service, The Liberty Committee is providing a free on-line petition that meets the guidelines for comments and reminds Washington what the true definition of privacy is. The petition can be found at http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/medprivacypetition.htm . The Liberty Committee is a nationwide, grassroots organization of over 51,000 Americans whose goal is to defend and advance liberty by restoring our national government to its constitutional limitations. -30- ** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Hi from a ;newbe that is old enough to use that for an excuse in not really knnowing what I'm doing from a scientific point. However I have been using a Sota instrument. Beck also I believe its called. I make the cs exactly to the directions, it is clear. and has worked on a varity of situations to my delight. I ;just yesterday found a Sunbeam Ultrasonic Humidifier at Wal-Mart,$40 to use for a sinus condition. Plan to use it at night to see if it would help. Now I realize that I don't know if I should just add stright cs, That would be 2.6 gallons to fill it! I only make 16 oz. at a time and each batch takes 20 minutes to make. I will do it if that woul.d be ;the protocol. Perhaps I should add some plain distilled water to the cs. I need some advice please. I have no testing equpitment. I hope this doesn't sound too vague but the simpler the better for this great-grandma, and so fat that has worked wonderfully well. Thanks for your time and help. Betty Ft. Lauderdale
Re: CSLiving Waters
Dear Michael, Yes I have 2 of Dr Batmanghelidj's books. There is much concern that the next major world crisis will be over 'potable water' ie water that is fit for drinking. The farmers pour deadly sprays on their crops - 80% of which evaporates to join clouds in the sky. The rain brings down the sprays that the farmers poured on their crops. Our rivers here in Australia are chemical sewers - the water for South Australia - where I live - is piped from the River Murray after being treated by 78 chemicals and filtration - and I drink it only out of politeness - ie when I have a hot drink while out visiting. The Murray is over 2200 km in length [someone swam the distance recently over a 3 month period - that's how I know]. It irrigates cotton, rice, orchards, vines, dairy farms etc etc imagine the return run off!! And there are all the septic tanks [toilet systems that have a solid waste catching tank that supposedly turns waste into liquid that seeps into the underground water table]... that also add to the pollution Good posting. Judith. ... Dr F Batmanghelidj states that the human body requires between 3 and 6 pints of good, high-energy water on a daily basis to maintain optimum function and that all pain signals within the body are a result of internal water shortage. He continues to describe how obesity, excess body weight, asthma, allergies, hiatus hernia, diabetes, dyspepsia, rheumatoid arthritis, backache, headaches, stress, depression, hypertension and high cholesterol can all be treated by increased water intake. Most of us are drinking tea, coffee and alcohol which are all diuretics that actively dehydrate the body. We are also drinking minerals and sodas instead of the pure, unadulterated water which our body desperately needs for optimum function. The above book contains much new, highly detailed information on water regulation and histamine activity within the body. This model is in sharp contrast to mainstream, established medical understanding. Many therapists using homeopathy and other types of vibrational medicine experience faster and better results with their fully hydrated patients. It is well known that it is very difficult to vibrate a dry body. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS and Cats
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:39:37 -0600, Kehoe ke...@ticon.net wrote: She went for the CS every time. The other day, I filled her bowl and did not put CS in it and she stood by her bowl and complained until I added the CS. I guess she knows what she likes :o). Hi CK. Same thing happens here (we have roughly 20 cats -- with kittens on the way). The dogs don't seem to have the same, umm, palate. :) They'll drink anything. -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHermangoimas and Vascular Malformations
Hemangiomas usually are not a big deal. My son had one just after birth. The doctor said it probably wouldn't be a concern, and would probably take care of itself as he matured. I didn't feel like waiting for maturity, so I simply used a good healing clay pack for a few hours, and that took care of it in a couple of days. I don't know if this would be effective in every case, since I only have my personal experience in this case. I would not really suggest doing this with SOMEONE ELSE'S child. Society freaks out when it comes to children. I can only remember two instances when I've worked with another parent's child. Both cases, the doctors had done everything they could, both cases the parents were highly educated, both cases I just couldn't bare to see the continued pain ( different situations ). You take on a lot of responsbility when you introduce something to someone. I've always found it a bit wiser to give them the knowledge and capability to take responsibility themselves. I'm not sure if colloidal silver would make a difference here. Jason - Original Message - From: Dick Tanguay tang...@midmaine.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: CSHermangoimas and Vascular Malformations -- Hemangiomas are benign vascular anomalies which may occur in various areas throughout the body with 50% being located in the head and neck. Vascular anomalies are the most common head and neck tumor in infancy and childhood with hemangiomas and lymphatic malformations comprising the majority of these lesions. -- Has anyone heard of the above conditions? and is CS effective in treating it? If not, would it be otherwise harmful? I have a friend whose baby is afflicted with one or other of these conditions and also thrush was mentioned too. If CS would be useful to her, I would like to give her what she needed. Dick Go to www.nite.org and become enlighten about INCOME TAXES. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHermangoimas and Vascular Malformations
I don't know about the vascular malformations, but I bet it would help with thrush. If I remember correctly, thrush is an infection in the mouth. A few drops in the baby's mouth a couple times a day should do the trick. CK - Original Message - From: Dick Tanguay tang...@midmaine.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: CSHermangoimas and Vascular Malformations -- Hemangiomas are benign vascular anomalies which may occur in various areas throughout the body with 50% being located in the head and neck. Vascular anomalies are the most common head and neck tumor in infancy and childhood with hemangiomas and lymphatic malformations comprising the majority of these lesions. -- Has anyone heard of the above conditions? and is CS effective in treating it? If not, would it be otherwise harmful? I have a friend whose baby is afflicted with one or other of these conditions and also thrush was mentioned too. If CS would be useful to her, I would like to give her what she needed. Dick Go to www.nite.org and become enlighten about INCOME TAXES. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
When using those large capacity humidifiyers, you don't have to fill them all the way up to work. In fact you just have to have enough filled to set off the sensor. There is no need to dilute the colloidal silver. - Original Message - From: epmoon5...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use Hi from a ;newbe that is old enough to use that for an excuse in not really knnowing what I'm doing from a scientific point. However I have been using a Sota instrument. Beck also I believe its called. I make the cs exactly to the directions, it is clear. and has worked on a varity of situations to my delight. I ;just yesterday found a Sunbeam Ultrasonic Humidifier at Wal-Mart,$40 to use for a sinus condition. Plan to use it at night to see if it would help. Now I realize that I don't know if I should just add stright cs, That would be 2.6 gallons to fill it! I only make 16 oz. at a time and each batch takes 20 minutes to make. I will do it if that woul.d be ;the protocol. Perhaps I should add some plain distilled water to the cs. I need some advice please. I have no testing equpitment. I hope this doesn't sound too vague but the simpler the better for this great-grandma, and so fat that has worked wonderfully well. Thanks for your time and help. Betty Ft. Lauderdale
Re: CS and Cats
I'm not really sure how she can tell. I did not see her go to the bowl originally, but she made such a commotion I figured it out real quick. She has me very well trained :o). CK - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:57 PM Subject: Re: CS and Cats Is this after a taste, or can she detect the CS by smell or other sense? Marshall Kehoe wrote: I just add CS to her water bowl. I don't measure, just dump some in. I suppose it is about 2oz in a small water bowl. It probably holds a 1 1/2 cups of water. I also stopped using straight tap water. I use filtered water. As a side note, she prefers her water with the CS in it. When I first started giving it to her, I put down two bowls of water. One with CS and one without. I was afraid that if she did not like the water, she would not drink at all. The only one she drank out of was the one with the CS in it.I even switched the bowls of water, just to see if she would only drink out of her regular water bowl. It made no difference. She went for the CS every time. The other day, I filled her bowl and did not put CS in it and she stood by her bowl and complained until I added the CS. I guess she knows what she likes :o). CK - Original Message - From: Beverle Sweitzer aber...@erols.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: Re: CSThat @#$%ard, Dr. Brooks, is a knave..admitted I would be very interested in what you did for your cat and how. I belong to a natural cat list and sometimes there is discussion of UTI. We use homeopathy but I am ignorant of cat dosage. How do you get it in the cat? Eye dropper, turkey baster? There is so much hollering and squabbling on this site - please don't think this post is a hoax. I really am interested. I have 3 beloved babies and want the best for them. Thanks in advance. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHermangoimas and Vascular Malformations
Hi there My daughter has seven haemangiomas on her face, one on her chin, and one on her body ,( this one being the result of pressure from a hip spika.) I have found these are usually caused by pressure, mainly when giving birth to the child. My child's ones came out about 10-12 days after birth. She has a rare genetic disorder, which probably pre-disposes her to them, but unaffected children obviously get them as well. CS does not help them unfortunately. Rebekah is now 3 yrs old, and hers have faded considerably. They will go by the time she is five. We call them her beauty spots! Hope this helps Tracy - Original Message - From: Dick Tanguay tang...@midmaine.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 23 March 2001 10:07 Subject: CSHermangoimas and Vascular Malformations -- Hemangiomas are benign vascular anomalies which may occur in various areas throughout the body with 50% being located in the head and neck. Vascular anomalies are the most common head and neck tumor in infancy and childhood with hemangiomas and lymphatic malformations comprising the majority of these lesions. -- Has anyone heard of the above conditions? and is CS effective in treating it? If not, would it be otherwise harmful? I have a friend whose baby is afflicted with one or other of these conditions and also thrush was mentioned too. If CS would be useful to her, I would like to give her what she needed. Dick Go to www.nite.org and become enlighten about INCOME TAXES. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSzappers
Hi again Just looking for comments from those of you who have used zappers. I went to a doctor yesterday for treatment as I have systemic candida. He had a machine, not unlike a zapper, in that you held copper pipes, and it ran off a 9 volt battery. It was attached to a computer which gave him readings, and he used accupressure/accupuncture points. I asked him about the zapper, since his machine was similar, and he was not in favour of them. He said it was because the range of frequencies that it delivers to all the accupressure points in the hands, this in turn disrupts the immune system. Sort of overstimulates it. I hope I am explaining it o.k. Anyway, it said it wasn't good for the immune system to be stimulated in that way. What do you all think? Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPersonal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use
Hi Betty: If you were to use a one qt. vision ware glass pot you could may 32 oz at a time by using a wall adapter with your silver pulser and plug it in the stove outlet just set the timer for 40 minutes. Blessings Ted epmoon5...@aol.com wrote: Hi from a ;newbe that is old enough to use that for an excuse in not really knnowing what I'm doing from a scientific point. However I have been using a Sota instrument. Beck also I believe its called. I make the cs exactly to the directions, it is clear. and has worked on a varity of situations to my delight. I ;just yesterday found a Sunbeam Ultrasonic Humidifier at Wal-Mart,$40 to use for a sinus condition. Plan to use it at night to see if it would help. Now I realize that I don't know if I should just add stright cs, That would be 2.6 gallons to fill it! I only make 16 oz. at a time and each batch takes 20 minutes to make. I will do it if that woul.d be ;the protocol. Perhaps I should add some plain distilled water to the cs. I need some advice please. I have no testing equpitment. I hope this doesn't sound too vague but the simpler the better for this great-grandma, and so fat that has worked wonderfully well. Thanks for your time and help. Betty Ft. Lauderdale -- Ted Helping Hand Consulting http://www.helpinghandconsulting.com
Re: CSThe List Owner speaketh:
?Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You find it boooring. I find it fascinating. You find cats, dogs, babies, or what have you fascinating, I find them boooring. Fortunately, we both have Delete keys. Hopefully, we will continue to use them when each of us finds it appropriate. Personally, I would hate to see them go off list because it is CS and in spite of their snipping at each other, there is experimenting going on (I think) and hopefully, we will all be better off in the end. Erwin Dear Beverle, Good for you! Occasionally, someone comes along who has something interesting to read, so DO hang in there!! More Power Boys, listen up! You are Boing! Go off list with each other...please? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOn Acceptable CS Topics
In a message dated 3/22/01 11:37:12 PM EST, w...@earthlink.net writes: Subj: Re: CSThe List Owner speaketh: Date: 3/22/01 11:37:12 PM EST From: w...@earthlink.net (Erwin Hanke) Reply-to: w...@earthlink.net To:silver-list@eskimo.com ?Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You find it boooring. I find it fascinating. You find cats, dogs, babies, or what have you fascinating, I find them boooring. Fortunately, we both have Delete keys. Hopefully, we will continue to use them when each of us finds it appropriate. Personally, I would hate to see them go off list because it is CS and in spite of their snipping at each other, there is experimenting going on (I think) and hopefully, we will all be better off in the end. Erwin Erwin: While I'm thankful that at least a couple of people on this list understand that scientific discussions/experimention often has practical benefits, that was definitely NOT the point of my earlier comments. My point was that attempts to limit CS discussion on this list, when the list owner has always maintained a 100% open policy for ANY type of CS dialogue is reprehensible. Frankly, I'm surprised that my objection and that of Stuart's have been the only ones heard. The freedom to speak ones mind is perhaps the most important of all the liberties that an open society enjoys. The fact that almost no one on this list has protested at the suggestion to limit discussion to acceptable CS topics, speaks volumes about how much our values have deteriorated. And if there are any Libertarians reading this message, I'm still waiting to here why you are not outraged at this suggestion. If anyone is moved to respond, please contact me off list, so that we don't impinge on the rights of list participants who want to discuss CS topics exclusively; ALL CS TOPICS. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSzappers
Hi Tracy, I would really like to know where your Dr got his information about the Zapper overstimulating the immune system. If it is valid info I would like to include it in my protocol. I know that a small percentage of people can have a strong detox reaction to the zapper. So the precaution, if the person is sensitive or very ill, is to start with short sessions , say 1 minute and gradually increase. Also it is so important to drink plenty of water throughout the day to flush out waste products. Tony Nick Grant wrote: Hi again Just looking for comments from those of you who have used zappers. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS-silver in olden times
Hi Old Bob: My Grandmother always kept a silver dollar in the milk, and one in the rain barrel out by the barn. Grandma was born in 1897, so she might have been considered old Americana. Over the years, those silver dollars got pretty thin and worn looking. I have no idea what chemical reaction might have taken place with these old silver dollars. The milk always tasted fresh, with or without refrigeration (the milk came straight from the cow in those early days, and not the grocery store). One of the reasons that brought me to this board to begin with, was to try to figure out what Grandma knew about silver and keeping milk fresh, along with water. To this day, we add either a silver wire (or now CS) to the milk from the store. We rarely use milk and this prolongs its shelf life significantly. As kids, when we would get a skinned knee or elbow, grandma would tape a silver dollar to the knee or elbow. Don't know if it actually did any good, or made us feel better, but things healed quickly, and I don't ever remember getting an infection. suzy Hear Ye Hear Ye; Go back to your early Americana. The pioneers when they crossed this great land placed a silver coin in the water and milk jugs to keep them fresh, and it worked. When I performed the silver test in the tropics, I mentioned that I stirred one batch of water with the silver wire and the 1000/1 petri dish was clean while the 100/1 started to show colonies. At that time Dr John Warren our lab head said all you have to do is put a few dimes (at that time they were silver) in a jug shack it up and let it sit overnight to be safe. Something D-mn well happened. What has happened to the knowledge of the ancients OLD BOB
