Re: CS>Fwd: [energy2000] Free Gold Test - new formula

[Marshall Dudley]

I must say I am very skeptical.  But I do have the chemicals to try it.  If one 
ends
up with something that looks like gold, it might be interesting to try and 
determine
what it really is.

Marshall

Damian Corrin wrote:

> This is not strictly related to cs but interesting none the less
>
> Ok i bellong to another group. This was posted by a person who claims that
> you can turn alluminum into gold, and also silver to gold. Heres is how to
> do so for alluminum. If anyone tries it out do inform  us of the result
>
> Take care
> damian
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> >
> >Here is a recently discovered formula for
> >transmutation of gold from Aluminum you can tinker
> >with that actually works.
> >Use at your own risk, and PLEASE be careful!
> >Cut up 50 grams of aluminum foil into small squares,
> >1" or so. Place into wide,shallow Pyrex dish, away
> >from all creatures, great and small, to sit for 2-3
> >days in sunshine.
> >Cover with 2" of pure Nitric Acid (extremely dangerous
> >to handle or breath).
> >Sunshine will set up a reaction, giving off copious
> >Nitrous Oxide brown fumes. DO NOT BREATHE THE FUMES!
> >
> >After 2-3 days this will crystalyze out to a milky,
> >dark mass.
> >Handle with rubber gloves, re-dissolve these crystals
> >in plain warm water, and let settle out.
> >Decant carefully, or pour off into coffee-filters, in
> >funnel, neutralizing the water with lime, before
> >discarding it, saving the dark brown powder in the
> >filtration paper.
> >This is gold and silver.
> >Dry to powder and examine under 50+ magnification, and
> >you can dance with the Gods! You have just created
> >Gold!
> >This is not really economic on a home scale, as you
> >must handle lots of dangerous chemical to achieve the
> >result, about 2 for 1 return, plus all the hassle, but
> >is meant as a starting point for you folks.
> >In return I am looking for a streamlined, alternative
> >process, to put it on a business-like basis, and
> >create wealth for those of you out there languishing
> >for lack of financing.
> >Consider this the first step in international
> >cooperation to create our own economy and pursue our
> >projects in alternate energy production.
> >I have a good one with Silver-to-Gold,using sunshine,
> >to follow, if I generate enough response.
> >
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Re: CS>virus

[Robb Allen]

Hey peopleall of this virus stuff has made me very happy that I 
didn't subscribe with my main emailthere's more virus news here than 
there is CS news..Hotmail is a good thing ...just for this type 
of problem...Robb



From: "Nick Grant" 
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Subject: CS>virus
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:35:36 +1300

Hi Sande

You had a attachment come thru, and Innoculate picked up the worm.

Tracy


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Re: CS>Virus Alert (was: Re: CS>Gut Cleaner)

[Brickeyk]

Yes, it was an attachment.  I had programmed ,  as a first address in 
my address book.  Don't know if that helped.  I also just installed windows 
XP and lost my old McAfee virus scan 5.3.
Winter is here and most of the fruit tree leaves have fallen except for the 
trees where I sprayed them with Cs.  Their leaves are still hanging on the 
tree.
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CS>Fwd: [energy2000] Free Gold Test - new formula

[Damian Corrin]

This is not strictly related to cs but interesting none the less

Ok i bellong to another group. This was posted by a person who claims that 
you can turn alluminum into gold, and also silver to gold. Heres is how to 
do so for alluminum. If anyone tries it out do inform  us of the result


Take care
damian


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Subject: [energy2000] Free Gold Test - new formula

Here is a recently discovered formula for
transmutation of gold from Aluminum you can tinker
with that actually works.
Use at your own risk, and PLEASE be careful!
Cut up 50 grams of aluminum foil into small squares,
1" or so. Place into wide,shallow Pyrex dish, away
from all creatures, great and small, to sit for 2-3
days in sunshine.
Cover with 2" of pure Nitric Acid (extremely dangerous
to handle or breath).
Sunshine will set up a reaction, giving off copious
Nitrous Oxide brown fumes. DO NOT BREATHE THE FUMES!

After 2-3 days this will crystalyze out to a milky,
dark mass.
Handle with rubber gloves, re-dissolve these crystals
in plain warm water, and let settle out.
Decant carefully, or pour off into coffee-filters, in
funnel, neutralizing the water with lime, before
discarding it, saving the dark brown powder in the
filtration paper.
This is gold and silver.
Dry to powder and examine under 50+ magnification, and
you can dance with the Gods! You have just created
Gold!
This is not really economic on a home scale, as you
must handle lots of dangerous chemical to achieve the
result, about 2 for 1 return, plus all the hassle, but
is meant as a starting point for you folks.
In return I am looking for a streamlined, alternative
process, to put it on a business-like basis, and
create wealth for those of you out there languishing
for lack of financing.
Consider this the first step in international
cooperation to create our own economy and pursue our
projects in alternate energy production.
I have a good one with Silver-to-Gold,using sunshine,
to follow, if I generate enough response.

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CS>Sweet Cider and CS

[blivic]

About three weeks ago I bought a gallon of sweet cider, unpasteurized,
no additives and no preservatives. I keep it warmed on the old cook
stove with cinnimon and ginger added. It was only cold for two days so I
shut the stove down.

Now I still had a half gallon of sweet cider in the refridgerator that
was sure to ferment so I added two ounces of CS.

Last week in anticipation of firing up the stove again I bought another
gallon of the same cider. I opened the newly purchased cider today,
poured out about 20 ounces and found it to be hard (fermented).

I went back to the three week old cider and it is still sweet so I
poured two ounces of CS into the 20 oz. hard cider and as long as it
took to write this post the hard cider is now sweet.

michael

 


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CS>badtrans virus trap

[Duncan Crow]

I'm getting a lot of viral emailsI caught the virus this time too...

OK, here's what I did to prevent it again and it appears to work...

Do the registry edit if you like to remove runonce kernel32.exe as per
instructions on the symantec site. Not really neccesary.

Delete the two files kernel32.exe and kdll.dll in windows\system32 (NT) or
windows\system and recreate those names as directories.

Now when you receive the virus again it can't make those two files because
they already exist as directories, it won't put an entry in the registry to
execute kernel32.exe, and the virus itself ends up harmlessly trapped in
your temp directory, where it's really no threat with nothing to call it up.

This is probably specific to this particular virus because it wants to use
kernel32.exe as a file name, but the principle will work with other names if
you set it up

ciao

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Re: CS>babies and CS

[Nick Grant]

I should clarify -

AFTER 20 minutes the baby started to scream.

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: "John A. Stanley" 
Newsgroups: list.silver
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2001 12:43
Subject: Re: CS>babies and CS


> In article <00b801c17852$f0cb6f00$621d6...@nick>,
> "Nick Grant"  wrote:
> >Hi everyone
> >
> >While we are on the subject of reactions to CS - I told a person to whom
I
> >gave a bottle of CS to, that it was quite safe  to give to her baby of a
few
> >months.
> >
> >The baby screamed about 20 minutes after every dose?  Anyone know why
this
> >would be?
>
> If I were a baby and really grossed out by CS's metallic aftertaste I
> would probably think screaming at the top of my lungs until the taste
> went away a pretty good strategy.
>
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CS>virus

[Nick Grant]

Hi Sande

You had a attachment come thru, and Innoculate picked up the worm.

Tracy


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Re: CS>newbie question/oldbie question

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Ken,

 There are some alkaline battery chargers available now for about $20 that

will charge alkaline, metalhydrides and nickle cads.  The alkies are good
for about 8 to 10 charges if they aren't allowed to go dead.


   I was aware that the alkaline batteries could be recharged.Even 
though I have a good number of

nicads, I don't use them any more for the speech processor.

  The NMH seem to have more capacity and typically deliver 6,8, and 
sometimes 10 hours.  It is interesting that the more noise and speech, the 
quicker they run down.


  If I stay in my office or out in the woods, with no one to talk too, the 
time is usually 10 hours.  It is a pain for sure, but not hearing is more 
of a risk and a pain.


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Re: CS>babies and CS

[John A. Stanley]

In article <00b801c17852$f0cb6f00$621d6...@nick>,
"Nick Grant"  wrote:
>Hi everyone
>
>While we are on the subject of reactions to CS - I told a person to whom I
>gave a bottle of CS to, that it was quite safe  to give to her baby of a few
>months.
>
>The baby screamed about 20 minutes after every dose?  Anyone know why this
>would be?

If I were a baby and really grossed out by CS's metallic aftertaste I
would probably think screaming at the top of my lungs until the taste
went away a pretty good strategy.

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Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!

[Tai-Pan]

 Hi Marsha,
 This is an intelligence test, "they're running"  is like 
"rabbits running", you pass.
 You are to infer that "they" in Afghanistan are running like
"rabbits". Its an allegoric comparison of actions.
 For us who read the news, we know its about the terrorists, Taliban
and et. al.
 I have not seen any creature in Afghanistan, not having been
there. Not even humans.  :-)
 Wonder if they are making CS in their hideout caves ?
Bless you,   Bob Lee
Marshalee Hallett wrote:


 > 
Twas the night before Payback and all through the Land,>
They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan. HiDid you see rabbits
in Afghanistan? IK The comparison word is LIKE...

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CS>babies and CS

[Nick Grant]

Hi everyone

While we are on the subject of reactions to CS - I told a person to whom I
gave a bottle of CS to, that it was quite safe  to give to her baby of a few
months.

The baby screamed about 20 minutes after every dose?  Anyone know why this
would be?

Tracy


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Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!

[Marshalee Hallett]

  >  Twas the night before Payback and all through the Land, 
  > They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan. 

  Hi
  Did you see rabbits in Afghanistan?

  IK

  The comparison word is LIKE...

CS>5th test - ignore!

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CS>Just a test....

[Silver Data]

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Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!

[Igor Kaplun]

>  Twas the night before Payback and all through the Land, 
> They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan. 

Hi
Did you see rabbits in Afghanistan?

IK

  - Original Message - 
  From: aka jhon 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!


  http://www.strike-the-root.com/deja_vu.html
Subject: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!



TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE PAYBACK

Twas the night before Payback and all through the Land, 
They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan. 

Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!

[Barnbert]

By gad, thems my sentiments exactly.  Thanks  Bob


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CS>A question about CS and Chlorine

[Jim Meissner]

Dear Group:

I just hear a disturbing story about a severe reaction between CS and
swimming pool water.  The story is: The father put some 400 PPM CS on a
small abrasion on his son's arm.  After going swimming it became violently
inflamed and the son ran a very high fever.  He called the local alternative
health doctor who explained that CS and chlorine is a very dangerous
combination.  Could this be true?  I know all the people involved and could
ask more questions.

Juergen P. (Jim) Meissner
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Re: CS>newbie question/oldbie question

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Nina,

>>Despite replies to my original post I'm STILL not clear what the advantage

is to using many 9 volt batteries in a row, as opposed
to one.


   Yes, I realize I did a very lousy job of answering your question.

   It could be the question was simply too complex. 

   So, with your permission, I will try again.

   When I first used the phone gen, ( 52 volts DC ) I was surprised and 
delighted at the speed of the process.


   The time required to reach your target ppm is proportional to the 
voltage.  I think the 52 Volt phone gen would be close to six times as fast 
as a single 9 volt battery and roughly 2 times as fast as the 27

volt unit.

 Apparently a six volt source will work but it will be very slow compared 
to 27, 54, 75, or 100 VDC.


 Considering the value of good CS, and the great effects of good CS, and 
considering the large number of generators available on the internet, for 
the people that cannot put together the magic components to produce some 
sort of mickey mouse generator, I don't see how anyone can justify using a 
6, 12, or 18 volt source for this important task.


I would not consider using anything less than 27 volts.

When I gave a demo and instructed all my friends on how to make cs, I 
ganged 9 volt batteries, installed them in a briefcase, and had a typical 
phone jack on the outside of my briefcase.


Reason being. there was no phone outlet in the meeting room we used.
6 X 9  came very close to being phone line voltage.  Heck,they simply snap 
together, so get a dozen of the little batteries, snap them together, 
connect two wires, and BINGO .. you have a decent CS gen.


NO box, no cabinet, no breadboard, no soldering, no nothing I would 
venture to say this is the simplest one that can be made.   It will last a 
long time, then scrap the batteries, and start over.


I would advise using a resistor and led, but it would not be absolutely 
required.


Wayne





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Re: CS>Dr. Carey Reams

[Tel Tofflemire]

Dr Clark Sued Quack watch.RE: Below
Press release:

Quackbusters charged with Racketeering

On Monday, July 23, 2001, NEW CENTURY PRESS (the company that publishes books
written by Dr. Hulda Clark, PHD,
N.D.) filed a lawsuit in Oakland, California against 31 individuals, companies,
associations, web operators and organizations based
upon, among other things, Unlawful Business Practices, Racketeering and
Conspiracy

After months of irresponsible and unwarranted attacks and warnings to
individuals to CEASE and DESIST their continuing
defamation and vicious attacks, some of these individuals ignored warnings that
were given to them and continued their attacks.
Thus, NCP decided to seek redress in the Court to stop this conduct.

The lawsuit also charges QUACKBUSTERS with unlawfully, illegally and
maliciously engaging in tactics to discredit and cause
damage to NCP and Dr. Clark.

NCP has been a long time advocate and defender of health freedom and
alternative medicine. As a result, she has been under
attack by a small group of self-described "QUACKBUSTERS"

Up to now, the Quackbusters have been, for the most part, unchallenged. This is
now changing. After months of the
Quackbusters being subjected to numerous losses in various courts across the
country (mostly at the face of NCP’s legal team),
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   - Original Message -
   From: Robert L. Berger
   To: Silver-list
   Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:09 PM
   Subject: CS>O.T. CO2 effect

   Hi Ya'all,

   After reading all 27 pages of this report I had to put the URL on the
   list.

   In case anyone on the lsit is a "greenie" this will be most distrubing
   as it recaps the data for 66 published papers on the
   value of increased CO2 !! It has been a boon to humanity.

   Print it out and read it.

   www.sitewave.net/pproject. Then select on the left hand margin
   "Enviromental effects."

   Happy reading !

   "Ole Bob"


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Wayne Fugitt wrote:

> Evening John,
>
> I spent several hours yesterday researching Carey Reams on the net, and
> >I found this page which has a description of the Reams tests:
> >
> >http://www.netway.com/~olszta/rbti.htm
>
>Thanks for the link.  I searched for only a few minutes and found very
> little.
>
> One thing I found that I had not run across before was the "Quack Watch
> Hale of Fame".
>
> http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/
>
> The list is somewhat lengthy, and I found a few old friends there.  Some of
> which  I have met in person.
>
> Others are people who write newsletters that I pay money to learn what they
> write.
>
> If anyone has not seen this list, they should take a look.
>
> Wayne
>
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Re: CS>HELP!!! I'm Confused!!!!!

[Tel Tofflemire]

Try this pagehttp://silverdata.20m.com
Tel Tofflemir
Phoenix, AZ


"Harry J. J. O'Neill" wrote:

> Hi, I would surely appreciate help!!!I have used store bought CS
> for years and like it.  After my husband dropped a brand new $60
> bottle of CS this weekend  I decided to look into making it myself.  I
> have been researching it on the net and am now confused enough to
> think about buying it again! I would like a simple way to make very
> high quality CS.  Can anyone recommend a good generator?  I am not
> completely averse to making one myself (it could turn into a science
> project in our homeschool), but I don't want to be running around to
> far flungstores buying supplies and I want to be sure of the quality
> and not have to babysit thesilver-making process every time. Thank you
> in advance for your time.  - Laura

Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!

[M. G. Devour]

Since our list membership spans the globe and is a cross section of 
cultures, idiologies, and faiths, I fear that this little parody may 
not be universally amusing.

Let's not have a thread about it, and refrain from other comments that
would incite a political or moral debate on the causes and
consequences of the conflict in which we are engaged.

Thank you,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

Marsha forwarded the following...
> TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE PAYBACK
> 
> Twas the night before Payback and all through the Land,
> They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan.
> Osama's been praying, he's down on his Knees,
> He's hoping that Allah will hear all his Pleas.


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CS>HELP!!! I'm Confused!!!!!

[Harry J. J. O'Neill]

Hi,

I would surely appreciate help!!!
I have used store bought CS for years and like it.  After my husband dropped a 
brand new $60 bottle of CS this weekend  I decided to look into making it 
myself.  I have been researching it on the net and am now confused enough to 
think about buying it again!

I would like a simple way to make very high quality CS.  Can anyone recommend a 
good generator?  I am not completely averse to making one myself (it could turn 
into a science project in our homeschool), but I don't want to be running 
around to far flung
stores buying supplies and I want to be sure of the quality and not have to 
babysit the 
silver-making process every time.  

Thank you in advance for your time.  - Laura 

Re: CS>newbie question/oldbie question

[Nina Silver]

- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>newbie question/oldbie question


>   A high voltage helps push current through highly resistive distilled
> water but the water becomes less resistive with process time and the
> current draw increases. You can start with many nine volt batteries at
> first but should reduce the voltage as the process goes to keep the
current
> draw down.  Ending up with one battery is good.
>  Starting out with one battery is OK but can take a very long time. Any
> voltage over 3v [I think] will work. Ivan can tell you what the absolute
> minimum is.
> ken

Thanks, Ken. Sorry about asking the question twice--I resent my message
before reading this.

Nina


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Re: CS>newbie question/oldbie question

[Nina Silver]

List,
Despite replies to my original post I'm STILL not clear what the advantage
is to using many 9 volt batteries in a row, as opposed
to one.

Thanks for your time.
Nina


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Re: CS>newbie question/oldbie question

[Ode Coyote]

  Wayne
 There are some alkaline battery chargers available now for about $20 that
will charge alkaline, metalhydrides and nickle cads.  The alkies are good
for about 8 to 10 charges if they aren't allowed to go dead.
ken


At 01:16 PM 11/27/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Evening Nina,
>
>>1) What is the advantage to using many 9 volt batteries in a row, as opposed
>>to one?
>I use my old  ( 3 X 9 ) unit from time to time.   When I use it, I 
>series two each small 12 volt batteries with it.   That is 27 + 24 
>volts.  51 volts is virtually the same voltage I get when I use my phone 
>line generator.
>
>Seems I keep giving away my phone generator to family and friends.  One 
>relative told me on thanksgiving day they wanted 4 of the units.  They are 
>a pain to build and I don't want to build any more.
>
>>2) Also, is one 12 volt battery okay to use instead of a 9 volt?
>
> I have dozens of batteries sitting around.  I have used up to 75 VDC 
>by connecting an array of batteries.
>Likely one could go up to 200 VDC with the right setup.
>
> One should learn what batteries are available on the market.   The 
>main advantage I see for batteries is that of remote use when no ac is 
>available.   For example, camping, hunting, hiking, or you name it.
>
>The automobile battery, plus a few small 12 volt batteries would work 
>just fine.
>
> Solar chargers are very economical now.
>
> Batteries drive me crazy !  I am deaf and have to have 3 AA batteries 
>to hear.  I have a basket full of them and am constantly charging 
>batteries.  I usually have either 3 or 6 in my pocket at any time.
>Typically, I use 3 sets per day.
>
>Seriously, I have thought of getting a solar charger and wearing it on 
>my head or my back.
>
>In addition to the rechargeable ones, I keep a dozen or two alkaline AA 
>in my truck.  Only about once every six months do I get caught without 
>rechargeable and have to use these.
>
>I would advise you or anyone to select a voltage you want to use and 
>develop the instinct to go along with it.  This way, everything you learn 
>and observe would be consistent.
>
>   Honestly, the phone line generator seems to be my choice when conditions 
>prevail to use it.
>
>I need to build about 20 of them now.  Maybe I can pick up the parts
today.
>
>Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: CS>Bill Briggs talk

[I Anderson]

Thanks Mike,

Must have been an interesting night.
I wonder how he knows that CS requires extra oxygen to work or that CS
pulls oxygen out of the body...has he tested this extensively or just
making suppositions do you think?

You might be interested in reading his US patent regarding the ultra
secret CS generating method : US patent 6022459 which can be read at
http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html

It is as if he has combined the Clark zapper with the Beck purifier,
in that this system uses 10kHz DC offset current which is polarity
changed 4 times per second.

His theory talks of high voltage vacuum cathodic sputtering shifted to
a low voltage liquid environment... in other words, the silver ions
from the anode plate out on the cathode and then further silver ions
from the anode knock the loosely attached cathodic particles off into
the water. Probably all that happens, is that by reversing the
polarity of the electrodes, these particles are expelled from the now
positive electrode.

Sounds like he has updated his frequency into the gigahertz range?

Much of the patent is involved in detailing his nifty proximity switch
arrangement.

Glad to see you get out once in a while :-)

Ivan.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Fuller [mailto:car...@touch88.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 10:33 a.m.
> To: Silver list
> Subject: CS>Bill Briggs talk
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I attended a talk by Bill Briggs last night to hear what
"Australia's
> leading authority on colloidal silver" had to say on why his
> product is far
> better than anyone else's. The initial impression was that he
> is not what
> I'd call a good public speaker in that he could not get his
> ideas across
> very well at a lay level. He also couldn't answer adequately
> any of the
> questions concerning obvious inaccuracies in his literature and on
the
> website.
>
> Concerning his colloidal silver, it was hard getting any real
> details about
> the process (which is probably fair enough on a commercial
> level) but I did
> hear that it involves a 50 volt process and the water is deionised
and
> degassed and its structural matrix is aligned. When asked
> about this last
> part he said that magnets weren't involved but wouldn't
> elaborate further.
> He did say that a magnetron, using frequencies higher than
> microwaves, was
> used in getting the silver off the electrodes.
>
> The most interesting thing for me was that hydrogen peroxide
> was involved in
> the generating process and this produced silver (ions/particles?)
with
> oxygen bonding that became nascent oxygen in vivo. the result
> is that when a
> white light is shone through the colloidal silver, it has a
> blue cast. Has
> anyone on the list generated colloidal silver using any
> amount of hydrogen
> peroxide in the water? I have a vague recollection of someone
> saying it
> produced large flakes of silver.
>
> Bill's main thrust was that silver requires oxygen to work in
> vivo, and most
> commercial and home-grown CS robs the body of oxygen whereas
> his has the
> oxygen present. Perhaps someone could comment on this?
>
> We did get his book for free, which I read last night. Again, I was
> unimpressed but others may get some value from it. Copies can
> be obtained
> from:
> Silver Colloid Australia Distributors
> 9/131 Bulleen Rd
> North Balwyn
> Victoria
> Australia 3104
>
> I don't know if they charge for the book, you may be lucky.
>
> Regards
>
> Mike Fuller
>
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Re: CS>newbie question/oldbie question

[Ode Coyote]

  A high voltage helps push current through highly resistive distilled
water but the water becomes less resistive with process time and the
current draw increases. You can start with many nine volt batteries at
first but should reduce the voltage as the process goes to keep the current
draw down.  Ending up with one battery is good.
 Starting out with one battery is OK but can take a very long time. Any
voltage over 3v [I think] will work. Ivan can tell you what the absolute
minimum is.
ken

At 09:08 AM 11/27/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>- Original Message -
>From: 
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:00 AM
>Subject: CS>newbie question
>
>
>> OK-I got my first set of silver rods, my three 9 volt batteries and my
>> alligator clips. I've made umpteen 2 cup batches using 4 different brands
>of
>> DW,(the first batch was yellow, all others were clear and it all has a
>> slightly bitter taste.) Now, I want to know, what do I have to do to
>increase
>> the amount I make in each batch?  I'm brewing it, according to my
>directions,
>> for 1 hour,(I wipe off the rods and stir the water after the first 30
>> minutes,)-if I want to make double or quadruple the amount, or even a
>gallon,
>> do I need more power? How much more? Longer brewing time? I'm thinking of
>> getting a small fish tank to make it in-would the bubbles be a good idea?
>> (Sort of like stirring. . .) Sorry if these questions seem S
>elementary
>> to some of you, but I've just started :-)
>
>I don't have any answers for Kathryn, but would like to add more questions
>to this.
>After many moons of using my trusty CS generators, I am getting ready to do
>the homemade alligator clip routine (I bought some lovely silver that I'm
>itching to use).
>
>1) What is the advantage to using many 9 volt batteries in a row, as opposed
>to one?
>
>2) Also, is one 12 volt battery okay to use instead of a 9 volt?
>
>Thanks.
>Colloid
>
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Re: CS>newbie question

[Ode Coyote]

  if you double the amount, double the time...keep the electrodes wiped
clean and stir, especially after things get going. Using 4 nines will help
get things going faster but remove one battery every now and then to keep
the current from running away with you...ending up with one battery.
 Using an ammeter will help tell you what's going on at any given time.
ken

At 09:00 AM 11/27/01 EST, you wrote:
>OK-I got my first set of silver rods, my three 9 volt batteries and my 
>alligator clips. I've made umpteen 2 cup batches using 4 different brands of 
>DW,(the first batch was yellow, all others were clear and it all has a 
>slightly bitter taste.) Now, I want to know, what do I have to do to
increase 
>the amount I make in each batch?  I'm brewing it, according to my
directions, 
>for 1 hour,(I wipe off the rods and stir the water after the first 30 
>minutes,)-if I want to make double or quadruple the amount, or even a
gallon, 
>do I need more power? How much more? Longer brewing time? I'm thinking of 
>getting a small fish tank to make it in-would the bubbles be a good idea? 
>(Sort of like stirring. . .) Sorry if these questions seem S elementary 
>to some of you, but I've just started :-)
>Thanks!
>-Kathryn
>
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RE: CS>Dr. Carey Reams

[I Anderson]

Reams did not have a good reputation amongst his peers, primarily
because he had the habit of using conventional scientific terms to
describe completely different events or ideas. This made his theories
difficult to decipher.

Ivan.

> -Original Message-
> From: D G [mailto:rc_gli...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2001 3:47 p.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Dr. Carey Reams
>
>
>   What did the tests consist of? My friend is a retired
> chemist/bio-physicist and is knowledgeable of many of the
> researchers and
> scientists from the past.
>
>
> >From: Terry Chamberlin 
> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: CS>Dr. Carey Reams
> >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:07:18 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >Terry Dickinson said:
> >
> >"Whenever I see "banned book" it tends to raise my ire
> >and want to know more. Any reason given for this? Did
> >there happen to be a cure that made the establishment
> >feel threatened?"
> >
> >From my Metabolic Bioanalysis brochure:
> >HISTORY:
> >"Metabolic Bioanalysis was first developed in the
> >early 1930's by the late biophysicist/biochemist Dr.
> >Carey Reams. Early in his career, Reams had earned a
> >reputation for his work in the field of agriculture
> >and animal husbandry. Dr. Reams would test and analyze
> >a farmer's soil, and when the farmer would follow
> >Reams' recommendations for treating and restoring the
> >soil to optimum productivity, the farmer would
> >frequently experience up to a five-fold increase in
> >crop production. Dairy cows fed with grain that was
> >grown on this improved soil were known to produce 3-5
> >times more milk than ordinary dairy cows, and the milk
> >was noticeably sweeter and creamier.
> >
> >"In the late 1930's, Dr. Reams had a neighbor who had
> >a little boy, 3-1/2, whom the doctors said was having
> >epileptic seizures. The doctors had told the boy's
> >father that his son would not live beyond the age of
> >5, that one day he would go into a seizure he would
> >not recover from. At this time the boy was having 8
> >seizures per day, and medicine had no effect. Dr.
> >Reams took the principles of biochemistry that he had
> >developed in the field of animal husbandry and applied
> >them to human biochemistry. Dr. Reams (not a medical
> >doctor, but a biochemist/biophysicist) took samples
> >from the boy's body of everything it was possible to
> >get a sample of and discovered that all the test
> >results were duplicated in urine and saliva. (Reams
> >believed he was the first person to ever do hair
> >analysis). He made suggestions to the father of diet
> >changes and supplements. After one month, the boy was
> >down to one or two seizures per day, and after three
> >months, all seizures had stopped. By 1968, Reams was
> >traveling 150,000 miles per year as an agricultural
> >consultant. After he retired from being an
> >agricultural consultant, a 20-year old girl with
> >Hodgkin's disease came to see him, telling him that
> >the doctors had given her 30 days to live. He tested
> >her, made recommendations, and she recovered. After
> >that, people began to seek him out in large numbers.
> >
> >"As Reams' reputation spread and the demand for his
> >attention grew, he decided to teach his analysis
> >method to others. Though Dr. Reams died in 1988, today
> >his bioanalysis technique is practiced and taught by
> >his son, Eugene Reams, and his many students
> >throughout the U.S. and Canada. Dr. Reams raised six
> >children to adulthood, and none of them ever had a
> >cold, ever had a cavity, ever missed a day of school
> >in their lives! (They were all honor students, too.)
> >
> >"People would come to Dr. Reams and say, "I'm
> >experiencing such-and-such a symptom, what do you
> >think I should do?", and Reams would say, "I don't
> >know, I haven't tested you. Don't tell me your
> >symptoms, I don't trust symptoms. I only want to see
> >what your test numbers are. The numbers never lie." He
> >had no favorite diets (except good, natural food), and
> >he didn't believe in consuming unnecessary nutritional
> >supplements. His philosophy was, find out what your
> >body needs, supply that to your body, and you will
> >experience better health."
> >
> >Further comments:
> >Dr. Reams never actually went to Mexico. After he
> >helped that first little boy, word got around and
> >people began to flock to his door. The local medical
> >folks charged him with practising medicine w/out a
> >license, so he moved to another state and bought a
> >ranch. Pretty soon, 300 people a month were coming to
> >him. The doctors in that state got him thrown in jail
> >for a year, so he sold his ranch, moved to another
> >state and bought a ranch way out in the boonies with
> >no street signs. 300 people a month showed up. One
> >night, someone came in and burned his ranch down. So
> >he moved to another state, and began doing what he
> >should have done from the start: Teach his testing
> >method to

RE: CS>(fwd) [Mr_Tracys_Corner] Bizarre chemical discovery gives homeopathic hint

[I Anderson]

Cool,

Thanks for this.. it gives some credence to some of my oddball
theories that have been well mauled in the past.

Ivan.

> -Original Message-
> From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, 26 November 2001 8:34 a.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>(fwd) [Mr_Tracys_Corner] Bizarre chemical discovery
gives
> homeopathic hint
>
>
> Something from another list about structured water to chew on:
>   Chuck
> Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:40:25 -0600, "d.linen" 
wrote:
> Bizarre chemical discovery gives homeopathic hint
>
>  News/Current Events
>  Source: The New Scientist
>  Published: 7 NOV 01 Author: Andy Coghlan
>
> It is a chance discovery so unexpected it defies belief and
> threatens to
> reignite debate about whether there is a scientific
> basis for thinking homeopathic medicines really work.
>
> A team in South Korea has discovered a whole new dimension to
> just about
> the simplest chemical reaction in the book -
> what happens when you dissolve a substance in water and then add
more
> water.
>
>
> Conventional wisdom says that the dissolved molecules simply spread
> further and further apart as a solution is diluted. But
> two chemists have found that some do the opposite: they clump
> together,
> first as clusters of molecules, then as bigger
> aggregates of those clusters. Far from drifting apart from their
> neighbours, they got closer together.
>


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RE: CS>CS not so great/(delivery?)

[I Anderson]

Is this the Yahoo silver list? I have posted there some time ago about
the potential danger of fulvic acid, which is a very strong solvent,
and has been implicated in bone disease etc., its action depending
upon its source (i.e. peat moss and so on).

Please be careful of ingesting fulvic acid.

You will find similar posts in the archives here also.

Ivan.

> -Original Message-
> From: Damian Corrin [mailto:damian...@optusnet.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2001 1:51 p.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS not so great/(delivery?)
>
>
> Yeah from the impression i get cs is great. It just has a
> hard time getting
> to where it needs to be. In which case its not so great. I belong to
> another group. THere is a person on there quite excite about
> fulvic acid
> which chelates metal and makes them organic and so easily
> digested. Maybe
> some people might have played around with it. If so would be
> interested in
> hearing about it
>
> Take care
> damian
>
> At 06:54 PM 24/11/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >  It seems that delivery might be the problem. The CS may not be
> >penetrating the mucuos- mucous being a protective reaction?
> >   Maybe drinking a large quantity and using a nebulizer/
> air brush will
> >help.
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!

[aka jhon]

http://www.strike-the-root.com/deja_vu.html
  Subject: CS>Re: CS,OT, but good!



  TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE PAYBACK

  Twas the night before Payback and all through the Land, 
  They're running like rabbits in Afghanistan. 

Re: CS>Re Carey Reams

[Tony Moody]

Hullo Terry,
Yes Please I would like information on this. It strikes me that it is not a
simple thing to judge inter cell pH by urine or saliva sample.
Regards,
Tony


Terry Chamberlin wrote:
> 
> TJ Garland,
> I was trained in Dr. Reams urine/saliva testing
> methods in 1984. I found his approach to determining
> the causes of health problems to be very specific and
> accurate, and his recommendations to be very
> effective.
> 
> If you would like more information about this, contact
> me off-list and I will send it to you.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
> Metabolic Solutions Institute
> RR1  314 Carleton Rd
> Lawrencetown, NS B0S 1M0
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