CSfw: Forced Vaccination Bill Passed in Tennessee and Florida

2002-03-16 Thread John Draper
fw:

All States under Federal pressure to enact preparations for
Forced Vaccinations.

Forced Vaccination Bill Passed in Tennessee and Florida; now
Passed in WI House- Must Be Killed in Senate- or unvaccinated
citizens face mandatory prison and/or $10,000 fine...

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From: j...@iahf.com
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002
Subject: Forced Vaccination Bill Passed in Tennessee and Florida;
 Passed in WI House- Must Be Killed in Senate


See - http://www.sweetliberty.org/activism/msehpa/index.html -
for updates on Nazi model emergency powers act legislation
moving in state legislatures

Dangerous Model Emergency Powers Act Legislation has been
passed in Tennessee and Florida: This criminalizes refusal to
vaccinate...

These anti freedom Bills are moving in most state legislatures
and stem from Model Emergency Health Powers Act legislation...
We must and can organize to kill these bills just like we already
have here in Virginia.

The Model Emergency Health Powers Act can be read in full here:

 http://publichealthlaw.net/MSEHPA/MSEHPA.pdf

Keep in mind that the 300 million doses of planned forced
vaccines were grown on lung tissue taken from aborted fetuses
and contain the usual compliment of toxins.  Many will die
from these vaccines, and if you refuse them, they can seize
your house, your car, your bank account and put you in prison
to boot.  Numerous military officers have quit the military,
losing all benefits, in order to escape the ... dangerous
anthrax vaccine, and now they want to force it on US.


Check these websites for info on the dangers of vaccination:
  http://www.iahf.com/
  http://www.tetrahedron.org
  http://www.909shot.com/
  http://www.vaclib.org/


Here in Virginia we killed a similar bill by passing out
flyers at the DMVs, posting them everywhere on public bulletin
boards, and by alerting everyone we could and moving them to
call the state legislature in opposition.  Not enough people
in Wisconsin bothered to do this and they all just got
screwed.  Don't let this happen in YOUR state! Check with your
state legislature about status of this legislation in your
state, and organize now to kill it as we did in Virginia.


---

Mandated Vaccinations Bill Passes WI House-
MUST Be Killed in WI Senate

  By Pat Owens
  Published 03. 4. 2002 at 18:14 PST

This Emergency Health Bill - Mandated Vaccination and other
demands, is in every state, but under different names.
Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson
said that all Americans should know that they have their name
on a vaccine shot in our inventory.  Hope you can stop this in
your state -- we couldn't.  Sponsored by Rep. Greg Underheim and
Rep. Frank Urban-Wisconsin

The Assembly Bill # 849, 850 without a name or titled, (Mandated
Vaccinations/Emergency Health Powers Act) was passed under Rep.
Greg Underheims directions.  Underheim deserves all the credit
for the passage hence we should call it the Underheim Black
Helicopter Bill.  It his words, We don't care what you think,
the bill will be attached to the budget bill.

For those in states, in which this bill has not been passed,
this is how they did it in [the house] in Wisconsin. [It still
has not passed the WI Senate.]  Underheim sent out a fax
approximately 3 weeks ago, calling it then the Bio-Terrorism
Bill relating to the Emergency Health Bill.  However, the bill
did not come out of the Legislative Bureau until Monday night,
2/25.  It was posted on the Internet on Tuesday, 2/26.  On
Wednesday morning 2/27 it passed.

The hearing started Wednesday morning with Underheim waving
people into two groups, one the professionals, made up of public
health officials, funeral directors, and attorneys.  With a
sardonic, arrogant tone and temper by Underheim, the mood was
set.  For those who believe in Black Helicopters sit over
there.  Underheim kept dashing in and out of the hearings, and
at the end of the short hearing, again he cited, It doesn't
matter what you think, it's going to be attached to the budget
bill.  This is how the bill was passed in Wisconsin.  No
further hearings, it's cut and done, not any of the other
elected representatives and Senators will vote on it.

One of the requirements of this bill is:  The Wisconsin
Department of Health Services may order any vaccination series
and may isolate anyone who does not take the vaccinations, or
unwilling to take them.  It calls for a $10,000 fine and/or nine
months in prison for those who do not get vaccinations.

For those of us who wonder who some of these elected
representatives are and what they represent, well they answered
this question.  Perhaps Rep. Underheim should appear on
statewide television and tell the people that they will received
vaccines or face mandatory prison and/or $10,000 fine if they
refuse.  But like pre-war Germany, there will be no
announcements, only dictates.  Underheim alluded to the fact
that he was being 

CSChime: 2D 3D Molecular Modeler

2002-03-16 Thread jrowland
Cool free tool:
Chime is a plug-in from MDL Information Systems, Inc.
 that interactively displays 2D and 3D
molecules directly
 in Web pages. You can rotate, reformat, and
save the
 molecules for use in other programs.
http://www.mdlchime.com/chime/index.asp
jr


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Re: CSCC CS for swimming pools

2002-03-16 Thread Ode Coyote
 Argria... probably a reaction with sulphurs in organic matter and some
waters [triggered by sunlight?]  CS itself isn't reactive to sunlight.
Copper sulphates are a nice blue or green color that people like, but sorta
poisonous?
 Agreed on the algae effectiveness of copper...wonder if it works better
than silver on fungus? [not orally, obviously...that much internally could
kill]
Hu
Ken


At 10:18 AM 3/15/02 -0500, you wrote:
I spoke with them. The reason they seemed to be negative on silver was
that in
sunlight it tends to give the pool argyria.  It is true that copper is a
better
algacide than silver, and that is the main thing you have to fight.  The
ozone,
H2O2 generation will do a good job of killing pathogens, and the copper
will also
do so like silver, but with about 1/10 the effectiveness. Apparently there is
sufficient copper that it is still 100% effective, so rather than have upset
customers on the staining, they leave the silver out.

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

 Have Breakthru, Proven Technology

  ECOsmarte takes a proven technology one step further, completely
 eliminating the
  need for sanitation chemicals or for adding toxic staining silver to your
 water.
 Unit remains in 'oxidize' only unless copper PPM falls below .04PPM

  Fropm the pics and claims, this sounds like an electroysis unit with a
 titanium electrode and a copper electrode.  The current gets boosted [and
 polarity switched?] until a lot of oxygen is produced and dissolved into
 the water..or...it generates copper ions at a lower current.
  Why the negative claim against silver? Why the claims that it stains?  To
 cheap to use it?

 Anyhow, looks like it might work..but pricy!
 Ken



 At 10:05 PM 3/14/02 -0500, you wrote:
 We have about decided to go with this unit. They have literature coming to
 us.  I talked to one of their engineers today, and if it does what they
say,
 it sounds great.
 
 http://www.poolguy.com/
 
 Marshall
 
 natural_essenti...@juno.com wrote:
 
  Marshall,
 
  I would very much like to hear your ideas on accomplishing this.  Do you
  plan on keeping a generator in the pool?
  A neighbor recently showed me an advertisement for something you insert
  into the middle of a paper filter that is supposed to produce ozone.
  I'll ask to look at it again.  I didn't see how it was suppose to work.
  Are you planning on purchasing or building an ozone generator?
  Leacy
  Life is Good!
 
  On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:53:53 -0500 Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
  writes:
   So I did some research last night and guess what I found out.  The
   problem is that the ions of copper
   react with the chlorine in the pool and form basic copper chloride
   which is insoluble, and the silver
   combines forming silver chloride, which is almost insoluble.  So
   both plate out, the first being a blue
   green and the second being a grey or black.
  
   If you put no chlorine in the water, you should get no staining!
   The pool place said that you have to
   use chlorine occasionally to shock the pool.  They are half right,
   the pool water does have to be
   shocked, since the organics will not be destroyed by the copper or
   silver.  But you can also shock
   continuously using an ozone generator.
  
   I believe this is the best way to go, and we will likely have some
   real experience with such a system
   next year.
  
   Marshall
  
 
  
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Re: CSRobey Mark 11

2002-03-16 Thread Ode Coyote
 Robey once had a merchants directory page and offered to rate anyones
generator and publish the results.
 I sent them a www.silverpuppy generator...gratis... 2 years ago and they
never did anything with it. [no response whatever..nothing published]
 The only generator they ever rated was their own. [gosh, it passed all
their tests!]
 That page is now totally self serving...the directory gone.
 The C.S.D.C. is run entirely by and [now] for the benefit of Robey alone.
ken


At 04:33 PM 3/15/02 -0500, you wrote:


Recently Ole Bob had the opportunity to test another group of CS samples
processed with the Robey Mark ll Generator.
Here are the test results posted with permission of the generator owner,
Margaret. 
This is the second batch (that I have knowledge of) that Ole Bob has tested-
both tests with very poor quality samples.
Here is the Robey link for those that would like to lookand avoid the
waste of money

http://sv018033.customer.interliant.com/

Sample 1.) Conductance = 15 uS/cc; pH = 8.00; Ag+ = 5.06 PPM; T.E. very
weak and no sparklies.
Processed at 5ppm dial in.

Sample 2.) Conductance = 15 uS/cc; pH = 8.47; Ag+ = 6.38 PPM; T.E.
Medium + sparklies.
Processed at 20ppm dial in.

Sample 3.) Conductance = 84 uS/ss; pH = 7.54; Ag+ = 7.54 PPM; T.E.
Strong + sparklies 
Processed at 40ppm dial in.

My (Ole Bob) Opinions;

Sample #5 is the best of the lot as the T.E. indicates that it is mostly
ionic silver. 

When I look at the pH of your samples I wonder if you are using
something for a starter such as bicarbonate of soda. (Margaret states she
did not add any starter)
Generally the pH of LVDC is about 6 to 6.5

I am curious as to what water you are using and whose generator. I would
appreciate it very much if you would detail your process for me.

Ole Bob 

Margaret's reply: 

The Distilled Water was bought in the grocery store.  It is labeled Kentwood
Springs Distilled Water and in very small print says:   Purified by steam
distillation, filtered, (1 micron absolute) and ozonated to insure quality.

This from the websiteand the unit is ''on sale'' for only $179.00!!
Who is the C.S.D.C.?
( Mr. Robey's name for his own self interest?)
I need to send the results of Ole Bob's independant testing to update their
ratings

C.S.D.C. RATING  
(Rated by the Colloidal Silver Discovery Center.)
5 being the highest rating possible
  
Quality of Colloidal Silver 5
Quality of Generator 5
Ease of use 5
Electrode Lifespan 5
Accuracy of concentration (ppm) produced 5
Overall Rating 100%  


Features:
- Simple and user friendly to use. Just fill with water and press a button.
- User can accurately set the concenttration from 5 to 80 ppm (parts per
million)
- Fully assembled. Not a kit.
- Auto shut-off feature.
- Extended life electrodes included. Makes over 400 gallons!
- 30 day moneyback guarantee.
- 1 Year parts and labor warrantee.
- 120 Volts



   




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Re: CSCC CS for swimming pools

2002-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
As we all know. you don't get pure colloidal silver, but some ionic silver in 
the
electrolysis process.  In a chlorine pool, it probably immediately combines with
chlorine and falls out, but in a non-chlorine pool, it could combine with other
things, such as traces of nirtous or nitric acid to become silver nitrate, or
become a sulfate.  These would then be light sensitive.

I think the big difference with copper is that most compounds of copper are 
water
soluble, such as copper chloride and copper sulfate, so they wouldn't stain.

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

  Argria... probably a reaction with sulphurs in organic matter and some
 waters [triggered by sunlight?]  CS itself isn't reactive to sunlight.
 Copper sulphates are a nice blue or green color that people like, but sorta
 poisonous?
  Agreed on the algae effectiveness of copper...wonder if it works better
 than silver on fungus? [not orally, obviously...that much internally could
 kill]
 Hu
 Ken

 At 10:18 AM 3/15/02 -0500, you wrote:
 I spoke with them. The reason they seemed to be negative on silver was
 that in
 sunlight it tends to give the pool argyria.  It is true that copper is a
 better
 algacide than silver, and that is the main thing you have to fight.  The
 ozone,
 H2O2 generation will do a good job of killing pathogens, and the copper
 will also
 do so like silver, but with about 1/10 the effectiveness. Apparently there is
 sufficient copper that it is still 100% effective, so rather than have upset
 customers on the staining, they leave the silver out.
 
 Marshall
 
 Ode Coyote wrote:
 
  Have Breakthru, Proven Technology
 
   ECOsmarte takes a proven technology one step further, completely
  eliminating the
   need for sanitation chemicals or for adding toxic staining silver to your
  water.
  Unit remains in 'oxidize' only unless copper PPM falls below .04PPM
 
   Fropm the pics and claims, this sounds like an electroysis unit with a
  titanium electrode and a copper electrode.  The current gets boosted [and
  polarity switched?] until a lot of oxygen is produced and dissolved into
  the water..or...it generates copper ions at a lower current.
   Why the negative claim against silver? Why the claims that it stains?  To
  cheap to use it?
 
  Anyhow, looks like it might work..but pricy!
  Ken
 
 
 
  At 10:05 PM 3/14/02 -0500, you wrote:
  We have about decided to go with this unit. They have literature coming to
  us.  I talked to one of their engineers today, and if it does what they
 say,
  it sounds great.
  
  http://www.poolguy.com/
  
  Marshall
  
  natural_essenti...@juno.com wrote:
  
   Marshall,
  
   I would very much like to hear your ideas on accomplishing this.  Do you
   plan on keeping a generator in the pool?
   A neighbor recently showed me an advertisement for something you insert
   into the middle of a paper filter that is supposed to produce ozone.
   I'll ask to look at it again.  I didn't see how it was suppose to work.
   Are you planning on purchasing or building an ozone generator?
   Leacy
   Life is Good!
  
   On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:53:53 -0500 Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
   writes:
So I did some research last night and guess what I found out.  The
problem is that the ions of copper
react with the chlorine in the pool and form basic copper chloride
which is insoluble, and the silver
combines forming silver chloride, which is almost insoluble.  So
both plate out, the first being a blue
green and the second being a grey or black.
   
If you put no chlorine in the water, you should get no staining!
The pool place said that you have to
use chlorine occasionally to shock the pool.  They are half right,
the pool water does have to be
shocked, since the organics will not be destroyed by the copper or
silver.  But you can also shock
continuously using an ozone generator.
   
I believe this is the best way to go, and we will likely have some
real experience with such a system
next year.
   
Marshall
   
  
   
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Re: CSfw: Forced Vaccination Bill Passed in Tennessee and Florida

2002-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
I just read the law.  Although it is draconian, it does not have any
provision for prison or $10,000 fine if you refuse the vaccine.  Tennessee
HB 2271 Part 6, a. 3. specifies quarantine or isolation, but no fine or
prison term for are unable or unwilling for reasons of health, religion, or
conscience to undergo vaccination pursuant to this Section./

Marshall

John Draper wrote:

 fw:

 All States under Federal pressure to enact preparations for
 Forced Vaccinations.


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Re: CSQuestion for BB re: Blood Levels in Canine Enema/CS/DMSO Protocol

2002-03-16 Thread Brooks Bradley
Dear James,
Please excuse my tardy responsethe speed of life
seems to be exceeding my capabilities.  Yes, there are several different magnets
which will furnish useful results.  The most economical and efficient---for cost
and availability---may be obtained from Radio Shack.  They are the small
rectangular (ceramic type) ones;  about 3/8 thick X  1 wide X  1.25 long.  I
forget what we paid for thembut it was quite reasonable;  probably about .25
each.  The orientation should be in the long dimension parallel to the tubing
geometry.  It is of no consequence which magnetic pole is in what circular
position..just be sure that one (+) pole is facing one (-) poleforming
the magnetic influence.  Actually, our best results came from the use of
neodymium magnets salvaged from computer hard drives.but (sometimes) the
alignment presents a challenge (unless you obtain units where the orientation is
on the flat sides).
The neodymium magnets seemed to be the only ones
capable of producing any measureable improvement in the utilization of
combustible hydrocarbons (i.e., gasoline).  These hydrocarbon evaluations were
quite non-scientificbeing performed by shop personnel during free time.
Yes, we did perform real time evaluations on some
animal subjects.  The specific data of which I do not have at hand.  However, I
do recall from memory one interesting factthe experiments involving the
upper G.I. section (particularly the stomach), yielded a measureable advantage
in speed-of-transport-reaction.from epithelium interface to
bloodstream-over the transport speeds achieved in the lower colon.  We have
no reliable explanation for this (theories yes, but proven postulatesno).
We , never, seriously considered monitoring
human subjects for this transport speed effect;  for the simple reason that
our evaluation methodology requires cannulation of high-flow circulatory
channels.  Cannulation of larger veins carries some risk and cannulation of
Arterial members carries a POWERFUL challenge, extending to the safety and
well-being of the subject.  The incidence of ischemically-induced
damageincluding deathfollowing or during heart valve/chamber
examinations using physically-inserted transducersis far more common than is
generally recognized.  And this, for an EXAMINATION procedure!
Best Regards, Brooks.
p.s.  Interesting you should memtion Viktor Schauberger, we have investigated a
number of his postulates..and have been able to verify them ALL.  His
seminal works on vortices remains as the high-water mark in such
investigations.


James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Hello Listees  and Brooks,

 Your information regarding the enema method of administering  the CS is
 extraordinary and very useful.  The funnel with magnets is another great
 presentation.  I  Thank you and your staff for two more excellent and widely
 useful research results.  I had heard years ago of some people using that
 method to take boiled-down peyote solution.  It was reported that only the
 desirable agents were absorbed, and the nausea-producing substances were
 rejected by the lower bowel.

 I have, for many years, occasionally installed domestic water treatment
 devices utilizing magnets and intended to reduce scale formation of calcium
 and magnesium carbonates within piping systems, and to reduce the spotting
 of those materials on glassware.  It occurred to me that one could probably
 get identical effects by simply using adhesive tape to fasten  the correct
 gauss-strength magnets in the appropriate configuration on the outside of a
 pipe. The effect is probably more pronounced with the properly oriented
 vortex, compared with the turbulent flow through a small pipe.  This goes
 back to the work of  Victor Schauerbarger (I probably don't have his name
 right), and later, Grander.

  Can you recommend specific magnets?  Perhaps something available from
 Edmond Scientific?

 I recall an earlier test that your researchers did with dogs and the 5PPM
 CS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution  introduced directly into the stomach via
 an esophageal tube.  You reported that the enhanced transport rate through
 the cell wall---attributed to the MSM and Ringers---resulted in
 approximately 4X the blood levels of CS in the same time frame compared with
 only CS sol.

 Did you do any available real-time measurements of the CS blood levels with
 the colonic route of administration?

 James-Osbourne: Holmes

   
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Re: CSCS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution

2002-03-16 Thread Tony Moody
Here it is in the archives.
Tony Moody

CSAbsorption Coefficient of CS Solution
 From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author) 
 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 00:41:27 


James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
 
 It is in the archives.
 
 James-Osbourne: Holmes
 
  -Original Message-
 From:   Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
 Sent:   Friday, March 15, 2002 7:27 AM
 To: silver- list
 Subject:CSCS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution
 
 
  I recall an earlier test that your researchers did with dogs and the 5PPM
  CS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution  introduced directly into the stomach via
  an esophageal tube.  You reported that the enhanced transport rate through
  the cell wall---attributed to the MSM and Ringers---resulted in
  approximately 4X the blood levels of CS in the same time frame compared
 with
  only CS sol.
 
 This is something I have missed in the past, could this study and protocol
 be posted again?
 Thanks so much,
 Connie
 
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Re: CSQuestion for BB re: Blood Levels in Canine Enema/CS/DMSO Protocol

2002-03-16 Thread Ode Coyote
  Look on e-bay
 I got some real skin nippers there cheap..way cool but got to be really
careful with them. A 3/8 button picks up 4 pounds. They hold each others
weight on opposite sides of my finger.  They might erase your neighbors
credit cards and they tend to roll themselves toward the fridge. Ya need
pliers to pull em off!
Ken

At 12:30 PM 3/16/02 -0600, you wrote:
Dear James,
Please excuse my tardy responsethe speed
of life
seems to be exceeding my capabilities.  Yes, there are several different
magnets
which will furnish useful results.  The most economical and
efficient---for cost
and availability---may be obtained from Radio Shack.  They are the small
rectangular (ceramic type) ones;  about 3/8 thick X  1 wide X  1.25
long.  I
forget what we paid for thembut it was quite reasonable;  probably
about .25
each.  The orientation should be in the long dimension parallel to the tubing
geometry.  It is of no consequence which magnetic pole is in what circular
position..just be sure that one (+) pole is facing one (-)
poleforming
the magnetic influence.  Actually, our best results came from the use of
neodymium magnets salvaged from computer hard drives.but (sometimes) the
alignment presents a challenge (unless you obtain units where the
orientation is
on the flat sides).
The neodymium magnets seemed to be the only ones
capable of producing any measureable improvement in the utilization of
combustible hydrocarbons (i.e., gasoline).  These hydrocarbon evaluations
were
quite non-scientificbeing performed by shop personnel during free time.
Yes, we did perform real time evaluations on
some
animal subjects.  The specific data of which I do not have at hand.
However, I
do recall from memory one interesting factthe experiments involving the
upper G.I. section (particularly the stomach), yielded a measureable
advantage
in speed-of-transport-reaction.from epithelium interface to
bloodstream-over the transport speeds achieved in the lower colon.  We
have
no reliable explanation for this (theories yes, but proven postulatesno).
We , never, seriously considered monitoring
human subjects for this transport speed effect;  for the simple reason that
our evaluation methodology requires cannulation of high-flow circulatory
channels.  Cannulation of larger veins carries some risk and cannulation of
Arterial members carries a POWERFUL challenge, extending to the safety and
well-being of the subject.  The incidence of ischemically-induced
damageincluding deathfollowing or during heart valve/chamber
examinations using physically-inserted transducersis far more common
than is
generally recognized.  And this, for an EXAMINATION procedure!
Best Regards, Brooks.
p.s.  Interesting you should memtion Viktor Schauberger, we have
investigated a
number of his postulates..and have been able to verify them ALL.  His
seminal works on vortices remains as the high-water mark in such
investigations.


James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Hello Listees  and Brooks,

 Your information regarding the enema method of administering  the CS is
 extraordinary and very useful.  The funnel with magnets is another great
 presentation.  I  Thank you and your staff for two more excellent and
widely
 useful research results.  I had heard years ago of some people using that
 method to take boiled-down peyote solution.  It was reported that only the
 desirable agents were absorbed, and the nausea-producing substances were
 rejected by the lower bowel.

 I have, for many years, occasionally installed domestic water treatment
 devices utilizing magnets and intended to reduce scale formation of calcium
 and magnesium carbonates within piping systems, and to reduce the spotting
 of those materials on glassware.  It occurred to me that one could probably
 get identical effects by simply using adhesive tape to fasten  the correct
 gauss-strength magnets in the appropriate configuration on the outside of a
 pipe. The effect is probably more pronounced with the properly oriented
 vortex, compared with the turbulent flow through a small pipe.  This goes
 back to the work of  Victor Schauerbarger (I probably don't have his name
 right), and later, Grander.

  Can you recommend specific magnets?  Perhaps something available from
 Edmond Scientific?

 I recall an earlier test that your researchers did with dogs and the 5PPM
 CS/MSM/Lactated Ringers solution  introduced directly into the stomach via
 an esophageal tube.  You reported that the enhanced transport rate through
 the cell wall---attributed to the MSM and Ringers---resulted in
 approximately 4X the blood levels of CS in the same time frame compared
with
 only CS sol.

 Did you do any available real-time measurements of the CS blood levels with
 the colonic route 

CSMy first attempt at making CS

2002-03-16 Thread Darcie
Hello all,

Well I got my (supposed).999 silver in the mail, it
says on the package 149. fine.

I am not sure this is so pure.  

I used 4 9 volt batteries, distilled water and am sure
I put all the components right.

The reaction I got was:

Immediately after connecting the negative connector,
the negative wire starting reacting with whitish
wisps, then at the bottom of the negative wire it
started producing black stuff.  The positive wire then
started reacting with finer wisps.  

I only processed for about 2 minutes.  I used my laser
pen and could see that it looked right, but I am
concerned.

The solution now is a kind of milky color.

What to do, what to do.

Your answers are very valuable to meI am looking
forward to them.
Thanks,
Darcie



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Re: CSMy first attempt at making CS

2002-03-16 Thread Robert L. Cousins
Darcie, I don't know about anybody else, but if your 'silver' wire says
.149. Return it for exchange for .. You don't want to be drinking
colloidal lead.
- Original Message -
From: Darcie dalidd...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 4:39 PM
Subject: CSMy first attempt at making CS


 Hello all,

 Well I got my (supposed).999 silver in the mail, it
 says on the package 149. fine.

 I am not sure this is so pure.

 I used 4 9 volt batteries, distilled water and am sure
 I put all the components right.

 The reaction I got was:

 Immediately after connecting the negative connector,
 the negative wire starting reacting with whitish
 wisps, then at the bottom of the negative wire it
 started producing black stuff.  The positive wire then
 started reacting with finer wisps.

 I only processed for about 2 minutes.  I used my laser
 pen and could see that it looked right, but I am
 concerned.

 The solution now is a kind of milky color.

 What to do, what to do.

 Your answers are very valuable to meI am looking
 forward to them.
 Thanks,
 Darcie



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Re: CSMy first attempt at making CS

2002-03-16 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Dear Darcie, Where did you get this wire from??
Marshalee

 Hello all,
 
 Well I got my (supposed).999 silver in the mail, it
 says on the package 149. fine.
 
 I am not sure this is so pure.  
 
 I used 4 9 volt batteries, distilled water and am sure
 I put all the components right.
 
 The reaction I got was:
 
 Immediately after connecting the negative connector,
 the negative wire starting reacting with whitish
 wisps, then at the bottom of the negative wire it
 started producing black stuff.  The positive wire then
 started reacting with finer wisps.  
 
 I only processed for about 2 minutes.  I used my laser
 pen and could see that it looked right, but I am
 concerned.
 
 The solution now is a kind of milky color.
 
 What to do, what to do.
 
 Your answers are very valuable to meI am looking
 forward to them.
 Thanks,
 Darcie
 
 
 
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Re: CSMy first attempt at making CS

2002-03-16 Thread Darcie
OOPS  A BIG OOPS!  See now I rellay can see
how this lyme disease is affecting my brain!  I went
and bought a high quality distilled water,  I
thought... well in looking at the label again.IT
WAS SPRING water.  What a dummy I am!!!  So I am off
to the store to get the right water.  SO sorry about
this original post.  I am not normally so DUMB!
Darcie...

--- Darcie dalidd...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Well I got my (supposed).999 silver in the mail, it
 says on the package 149. fine.
 
 I am not sure this is so pure.  
 
 I used 4 9 volt batteries, distilled water and am
 sure
 I put all the components right.
 
 The reaction I got was:
 
 Immediately after connecting the negative connector,
 the negative wire starting reacting with whitish
 wisps, then at the bottom of the negative wire it
 started producing black stuff.  The positive wire
 then
 started reacting with finer wisps.  
 
 I only processed for about 2 minutes.  I used my
 laser
 pen and could see that it looked right, but I am
 concerned.
 
 The solution now is a kind of milky color.
 
 What to do, what to do.
 
 Your answers are very valuable to meI am looking
 forward to them.
 Thanks,
 Darcie
 
 
 
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Re: CSmagnets

2002-03-16 Thread CKing001
My favorite place for magnets:
http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/main.shtml
All kinds of strengths.
Chuck
Confidence is the feeling you have before you understand the problem 

On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:31:25 -0500, Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net wrote:

 Look on e-bay


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Re: CSmagnets

2002-03-16 Thread Brooks Bradley
Agreed.we have purchased many different
types from these people.  They have, without exception, performed in a
superior manner, and the items have always performed as advertised.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 My favorite place for magnets:
 http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/main.shtml
 All kinds of strengths.
 Chuck
 Confidence is the feeling you have before you understand the problem

 On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:31:25 -0500, Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net wrote:

  Look on e-bay

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Re: CSMy first attempt at making CS

2002-03-16 Thread Marshalee Hallett


 OOPS  A BIG OOPS!  See now I rellay can see
 how this lyme disease is affecting my brain!  I went
 and bought a high quality distilled water,  I
 thought... well in looking at the label again.IT
 WAS SPRING water.  What a dummy I am!!!  So I am off
 to the store to get the right water.  SO sorry about
 this original post.  I am not normally so DUMB!
 Darcie...

Dear Darcie, 
as a former Lymie I can say: Been There, Done That!!!
You have my complete empathy!!
Love,
Marshalee


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Re: CSmagnets

2002-03-16 Thread Russ Rosser
...including (expensive) Nikken?
--Russ

- Original Message -
From: Brooks Bradley liat...@flash.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSmagnets


 Agreed.we have purchased many
different
 types from these people.  They have, without exception, performed in a
 superior manner, and the items have always performed as advertised.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

  My favorite place for magnets:
  http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/main.shtml
  All kinds of strengths.
  Chuck
  Confidence is the feeling you have before you understand the problem
 
  On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:31:25 -0500, Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
wrote:
 
   Look on e-bay
 
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