RE: CSBrewer's yeast and insects
Jeannie, I mean no disrespect, but I hope you eat eggs and milk, because the B12 found in yeast is unlikely to be type active in humans. My opinion is that humans should eat the meat and fat that the body has evolved (or been designed) for. Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jeannie [mailto:jean...@ucinet.com] Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2002 10:59 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBrewer's yeast and insects Finally, some accurate infomation. Thanks! We prefer the flakes, and it is a great flavoring in many things. Since we are vegan, we feel the need of a good source of B vitamins, especially B12. Jeannie Ode Coyote wrote: In a way that's true depending on what you're getting. There's brewers yeast, primary grown brewers yeast, debittered brewers yeast and nutritional yeast which is entirely different and much better but sometimes called brewers yeast. The nutritional yeast actually tastes good. It's GREAT sprinkled on popcorn. Nutritional Yeast Nutritional Yeast is an inactive yeast and dietary food supplement with a distinct, pleasant aroma and delicious cheesy taste. It is different from baking yeast and has no fermenting power. Six teaspoons (about 10 gm) provide: 6 mg each of vit. B1, vit. B2 and vit. B6; 5 mcg vit. B12; 35 mg niacin; 5 gm protein (50% by weight); 4 gm carbohydrates; and 30 calories. Contains no fat. Store in a cool dry place or refrigerate. Will keep indefinitely if stored properly. Available in flakes or powder at natural food stores Brewer's Yeast Brewer's yeast, which is often called nutritional yeast, was originally a by-product of the brewing of beer. While still used for brewing, it is also now grown as a plant product for its nutritional value. Nutritional yeast is not exactly the same as brewer's yeast. Brewer's yeast was originally used as a nutritional supplement, then other yeasts were made available for this purpose. Brewer's yeast differs from live baker's yeast in that its live yeast cells have been destroyed, leaving the nutrients behind. Live yeast cells can actually deplete the body of B vitamins and other nutrients. Nutritional yeast contains high levels of many important nutrients, including all of the B vitamins (except for B12), 16 out of 20 amino acids, and 14 different minerals. The amino acids (proteins) in yeast help the body repair tissue and fight disease. Brewer's yeast has a very high protein content, with one tbsp. providing 4.6 g, making it a rich source of protein for vegetarians. It is also high in phosphorus. t 11:56 AM 8/9/02 EDT, you wrote: In a message dated 8/9/2002 2:25:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rbar...@orcon.net.nz writes: You should never eat bakers yeast but brewers is fine. brewers yeast is the yeast that is left over after the beer is made...right? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- One thing you can't recycle is wasted time. Jeannie McReynolds Oregon Coast --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/2002
CSHistoplasmosis
Is this a fungus or actually a disease? A friend has been diagnosed with this condition and was given only one option, Laser surgery. This does not sound like this is in the best interest of the patient. If anyone has had any first person experience with this, I would like to know more about this ailment, Histoplasmosis. Any reason why CS would not handle this little critter? Wayne
RE: CSDMSO and Arthritic Shoulder
Perhaps it is a compromised interior body terrain that allows for the over-growth of fungi. Low pH, poor calcium utilisation etc. This would also be fertile ground for tumour growth as well as the exotoxins that may initiate cancers. If you correct for the fungi, then you probably also correct for the cancer, as well as improve the immune system's response to it. Ivan. -Original Message- From: qec...@aol.com [mailto:qec...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2002 10:41 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO and Arthritic Shoulder I'll say this, maybe you guys should check into Doug Kauffmann and his book that says that most cancer isn't cancer but a sickness that mimicks cancer that is related to mold/fungus. They did the tests. What they are saying is, the med community is treating people for cancer when in most cases, it's not cancer. They treat for mold and the cancer goes away...how can it be a cancer then? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHistoplasmosis
Histoplasmosis is a disease of the lungs (can infect other internal organs by dissemination) caused by the fungus Histoplasma capsulatum. Can be fatal. Histoplasmosis in AIDS usually presents as a disseminated infection.1,5 The most common manifestation (and sometimes the only presentation) is fever and weight loss, which occurs in about 75 percent of patients. Respiratory complaints (cough, shortness of breath) occur in about 50 per cent of patients. Chest radiographs are normal in 30 to 40 percent of patients; most of the remaining patients have diffuse nodular infiltrates. Local or generalized Iymphadenopathy, hepatosplenomegaly, colonic lesions, and skin (Figures 2 and 3) and oral ulcers also occur. The involvement of the gastrointestinal tract, usually in the form of ulcers, may lead patients to present with abdominal pain or gastrointestinal bleeding. Between 5 and l0 percent of patients have an acute septic shock-like syndrome that includes hypotension and evidence of disseminated coagulopathy. This presentation carries a very poor prognosis. Central nervous system involvement with meningitis or cerebral mass lesions is a rare but important complication. Laboratory findings may include anemia, neutropenia, or thrombocytopenia (reflecting bone marrow invasion by the fungus) and elevation of hepatic enzymes. The CD4+ lymphocyte count is almost invariably less than 200/mm3 and usually less than 100/mm3. The major differential diagnosis for disseminated histoplasmosis is mycobacterial infection. Not sure how laser surgery would help unless we are talking about ocular Histoplasmosis: These scars, which in the case of Ocular histo are what cause the sight degeneration, usually later in life. Ocular Histoplasmosis occurs when abnormal blood vessels grow through the healed histo scars and into the interior of the eye. This condition, which is secondary to Ocular Histoplasmosis is called Sub Choroidal Neo-Vascularization. This may cause bleeding or increased scarring. If the scars are located close to the macula or center of vision, which is usually the case, reduction or loss of central vision may occur. http://home.golden.net/~blink/histo.shtml for discussion of laser surgery etc. Usually antifungal medication is prescribed. Nebulising with CS/DMSO mix may prove helpful, perhaps adding beta glucan and olive leaf extract. If disseminated, then oral CS, olive leaf extract (Seagate brand preferred) and beta glucan could be of help. Ivan. -Original Message- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com] Sent: Tuesday, 13 August 2002 12:08 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHistoplasmosis Is this a fungus or actually a disease? A friend has been diagnosed with this condition and was given only one option, Laser surgery. This does not sound like this is in the best interest of the patient. If anyone has had any first person experience with this, I would like to know more about this ailment, Histoplasmosis. Any reason why CS would not handle this little critter? Wayne --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHistoplasmosis
his·to·plas·mo·sis (-'plaz-`mo-s?s) n. pl -mo·ses (-'sez) A respiratory disease with symptoms like those of influenza that is endemic in the Mississippi and Ohio river valleys of the U.S., is caused by infection with a fungus of the genus Histoplasma (H. capsulatum), and is marked by benign involvement of lymph nodes of the trachea and bronchi usually without symptoms or by severe progressive generalized involvement of the lymph nodes and the reticuloendothelial system with fever, anemia, leukopenia and often with local lesions (as of the skin, mouth, or throat) Chuck A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand. On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:07:54 -0500, Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com wrote: Is this a fungus or actually a disease? A friend has been diagnosed with this condition and was given only one option, Laser surgery. This does not sound like this is in the best interest of the patient. If anyone has had any first person experience with this, I would like to know more about this ailment, Histoplasmosis. Any reason why CS would not handle this little critter? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShepatitis-c geno type 1 non responder to peg and herpes questions
is there anybody out there who has tried peg or any other interferon combo treatments and did not respond? if so please e-mail me I a am new to cs i'm just trying CS I have purchased the new advanced CS made through a mesoprocess When i was on peg i did partially respond my viral load was over a million and my final load dropped down to the low thousands. I would not even dare try to make CS on my own as i am still unsure of what could happen down the road. thank you p.s. any advice on getting rid of cold sores would be helpful also thank you = shepp I personally have not tried peg-entron (sp?) but since I am Hep C positive and have many friends who are also, I have been asked to. Also, a very good friend of mine just stopped taking it and it did nothing but make her very, very ill. She said that her viral load went down while she was on it, but it rose again after she stopped and is now back at the same place it was before she started. She is not the only friend I have that has gotten very sick while taking that 'poison'. I personally will NOT put that stuff in my body. Not after seeing what my friends went through. And I won't even begin to mention the costs involved, especially if you have no insurance or Medicaid. If you would like to talk with her, I can have her email you. Let me know. Regarding the cold sore/herpes virus, I also have been cursed with that (not the mouth cold sore type either!) and I usually get those sores at least once a month. Sometimes more often. Since I started taking the CS I've been making, I only had one sore start to form. I started to get the tingle in the back of my leg but it never developed past that. Usually when I get that tingle, I get a sore two days later. But this time it didn't happen. Was it the CS? It's the only thing I've done differently this month so I tend to think it is. Just my opinion though. Any time without one of those sores is a blessing and if the CS can keep them away, I'll take it. If the CS can do all the other wonderful things it seems to be able to do, I'll take it forever. Again, just my opinion. Thanks, Christine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHistoplasmosis
My sister and I both had it when I was in the 2nd grade. It goes by the common name of Fungus in the lungs. Back then all they could do is to say to rest and wait. I had it for almost 2 years. Now I understand that there are fungal antibiotics that can be taken by mouth that will route it out. I suspect that oral CS would not be very effective as it would likely not reach the fungus. But I suspect that nebulized CS would work quite well. I don't understand th laser surgery at all. That makes no sense to me. Marshall Wayne Fugitt wrote: Is this a fungus or actually a disease? A friend has been diagnosed with this condition and was given only one option, Laser surgery. This does not sound like this is in the best interest of the patient. If anyone has had any first person experience with this, I would like to know more about this ailment, Histoplasmosis. Any reason why CS would not handle this little critter? Wayne
Re: CShepatitis-c geno type 1 non responder to peg and herpes questions
Dear Christiane, Our experimental research involving Hepatitis-C and Type II Herpes (also Type I) indicated that all were susceptible to Colloidal Silver protocols. In the case of the Herpes insults, the ancillary use of Lysine proved to increase both the speed of response and the degree of effective response.by an order of magnitude. The speed of response, especially, seemed to be dosage-sensitive; in that introducing larger oral dosages of Lysine ( 1000 to 2000 mg daily) particularly at inititation stages of these experimental protocolssometimes, gave spectacular results. Somewhere in the archives you should find a posting I made some months ago-which elaborates somewhat on this topic. Additionally, it has long-ago been demonstrated that lysine-containing salves are quite effective in ameliorating many of the adverse effects of the presenting lesions themselves. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. In Vitro experiments have demonstrated (to our satisfaction) a very powerful control response on all Herpes type viruses..as well mycoplasma-based pathogens--whenever actual exposure within a common environment occurs. cmccau...@kayescholer.com wrote: is there anybody out there who has tried peg or any other interferon combo treatments and did not respond? if so please e-mail me I a am new to cs i'm just trying CS I have purchased the new advanced CS made through a mesoprocess When i was on peg i did partially respond my viral load was over a million and my final load dropped down to the low thousands. I would not even dare try to make CS on my own as i am still unsure of what could happen down the road. thank you p.s. any advice on getting rid of cold sores would be helpful also thank you = shepp I personally have not tried peg-entron (sp?) but since I am Hep C positive and have many friends who are also, I have been asked to. Also, a very good friend of mine just stopped taking it and it did nothing but make her very, very ill. She said that her viral load went down while she was on it, but it rose again after she stopped and is now back at the same place it was before she started. She is not the only friend I have that has gotten very sick while taking that 'poison'. I personally will NOT put that stuff in my body. Not after seeing what my friends went through. And I won't even begin to mention the costs involved, especially if you have no insurance or Medicaid. If you would like to talk with her, I can have her email you. Let me know. Regarding the cold sore/herpes virus, I also have been cursed with that (not the mouth cold sore type either!) and I usually get those sores at least once a month. Sometimes more often. Since I started taking the CS I've been making, I only had one sore start to form. I started to get the tingle in the back of my leg but it never developed past that. Usually when I get that tingle, I get a sore two days later. But this time it didn't happen. Was it the CS? It's the only thing I've done differently this month so I tend to think it is. Just my opinion though. Any time without one of those sores is a blessing and if the CS can keep them away, I'll take it. If the CS can do all the other wonderful things it seems to be able to do, I'll take it forever. Again, just my opinion. Thanks, Christine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrewer's yeast and insects
Dear Ivan, Your cogent remark relating to Vitamin B-12 sources recommends serious consideration ( we believe), as our nutritional experiments conducted some years past.revealed that a majority of our vegetarian volunteers (myself included) were experiencing active B-12 deficiencies. Additionally, a majority of these were presenting with cobalt deficiencies..even those consuming typical One-a-Day type vitamin supplements. While several approaches effectively resolved the deficienciesthe most direct solution came through B-12 supplements, cobalt intake enhancement and most easily (on a continuing basis)-- through dietary modifications. In my own case, I chose (and happily so) to employ sub-lingual B-12 and eggs. I am now a modified vegetarian, but still refrain from animal meat products...consuming only fermented dairy products and eggs. Ivan Anderson wrote: Jeannie, I mean no disrespect, but I hope you eat eggs and milk, because the B12 found in yeast is unlikely to be type active in humans. My opinion is that humans should eat the meat and fat that the body has evolved (or been designed) for. Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jeannie [mailto:jean...@ucinet.com] Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2002 10:59 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBrewer's yeast and insects Finally, some accurate infomation. Thanks! We prefer the flakes, and it is a great flavoring in many things. Since we are vegan, we feel the need of a good source of B vitamins, especially B12. Jeannie Ode Coyote wrote: In a way that's true depending on what you're getting. There's brewers yeast, primary grown brewers yeast, debittered brewers yeast and nutritional yeast which is entirely different and much better but sometimes called brewers yeast. The nutritional yeast actually tastes good. It's GREAT sprinkled on popcorn. Nutritional Yeast Nutritional Yeast is an inactive yeast and dietary food supplement with a distinct, pleasant aroma and delicious cheesy taste. It is different from baking yeast and has no fermenting power. Six teaspoons (about 10 gm) provide: 6 mg each of vit. B1, vit. B2 and vit. B6; 5 mcg vit. B12; 35 mg niacin; 5 gm protein (50% by weight); 4 gm carbohydrates; and 30 calories. Contains no fat. Store in a cool dry place or refrigerate. Will keep indefinitely if stored properly. Available in flakes or powder at natural food stores Brewer's Yeast Brewer's yeast, which is often called nutritional yeast, was originally a by-product of the brewing of beer. While still used for brewing, it is also now grown as a plant product for its nutritional value. Nutritional yeast is not exactly the same as brewer's yeast. Brewer's yeast was originally used as a nutritional supplement, then other yeasts were made available for this purpose. Brewer's yeast differs from live baker's yeast in that its live yeast cells have been destroyed, leaving the nutrients behind. Live yeast cells can actually deplete the body of B vitamins and other nutrients. Nutritional yeast contains high levels of many important nutrients, including all of the B vitamins (except for B12), 16 out of 20 amino acids, and 14 different minerals. The amino acids (proteins) in yeast help the body repair tissue and fight disease. Brewer's yeast has a very high protein content, with one tbsp. providing 4.6 g, making it a rich source of protein for vegetarians. It is also high in phosphorus. t 11:56 AM 8/9/02 EDT, you wrote: In a message dated 8/9/2002 2:25:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rbar...@orcon.net.nz writes: You should never eat bakers yeast but brewers is fine. brewers yeast is the yeast that is left over after the beer is made...right? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- One thing you can't recycle is wasted time. Jeannie McReynolds Oregon Coast --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 24/07/2002
Re: CSAsked for CVA Rx
I wouldn't have thought it would be much use, personally. French maritime pine bark extract, pycnogenol can help - the quicker it's used after the CVA (as with just about anything else you might find) the better. ...just looked up 'anything else' all I could find was Vit E, to reduce platelet adhesiveness (thin the blood) HTH Rod - Original Message - From: qec...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 3:34 AM Subject: CS(no subject) cs and strokes. Can CS help people who have had strokes? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOur Wonderful FDA At Work Again
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A health advocacy group accused the government Monday of allowing fake meat made from fungus to be sold even though it makes people sick and demanded the product, known as Quorn, be recalled. The Center for Science in the Public Interest said it had received reports from 33 people who had suffered vomiting, diarrhea and other ailments after eating Quorn. A North Carolina man broke out in hives and had trouble breathing, the group said. Quorn is the trade name for mycoprotein, which is used as a substitute for ground beef and chicken, and in lasagna and fettuccine Alfredo. Quorn mycoprotein has been proven to cause severe digestive reactions, Michael Jacobson, CSPI's executive director, said in a letter to the Food and Drug Administration. Those reactions have led to fainting and dehydration, which could be life-threatening. Because mycoprotein makes some people sick, it cannot be considered Generally Recognized as Safe -- as designated by the FDA. Labels on Quorn products say mycoprotein comes from a member of the mushroom family. But critics say that's a stretch and that the FDA should have studied it more before it hit the shelves in American supermarkets. The FDA's stance with regard to Quorn has been 'get sick first, ask questions later,' Jacobson said. This product was cavalierly waved through by the FDA with an alarming lack of curiosity even though the government had seen evidence that it made people sick. CSPI, citing documents it obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, said one study showed nearly 10 percent of people who ate Quorn reported feeling nauseated or sick to their stomachs. An FDA official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the agency was reviewing the information provided by CSPI and would evaluate all available data on Quorn before deciding how to proceed. Quorn, introduced in Britain in 1985, arrived in U.S. supermarkets in January. Its popularity in Europe now rivals that of soyburgers and other meat substitutes. Copyright 2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Senate bill S 2053 -- NO!!
Dear Senator Sessions-- You have taken the conscientious side of crucial issues before, so I am confident that you'll understand our repugnance at pharmaceutical conglomerates' ongoing, successful efforts to manipulate the government for profit, at the expense of public health. Already, these manufacturers are allowed to spike vaccines with biocidal poisons (under the classification of preservatives). Already, vaccines are exempted from FDA requirements to prove safety and effectiveness. Now comes Senator Frist's bill S 2053 to eradicate civil accountabilty for the damage inflicted on children under these exemptions. Lacing vaccines with known poisons extends product shelf-life, but the full profitability of this practice is less obvious: Beginning at early childhood, these poisons surreptitiously increase public disease rates on which pharma profits depend. The toxins employed are among the most controversial; ethylene glycol is linked to kidney damage[1] and metabolic disruption[2]; aluminum to brain disorders/Alzheimer's[3]; formaldehyde to headaches, depression, memory loss, fatigue[4] and CANCER[5]; and mercury to brain damage[6] and autism[7] (children can receive 42 times the EPA safety limit in a single vaccination). As public awareness of vaccine toxicity has grown**, so has the number of product safety lawsuits. Sen. Frists's bill is a mercenary counter-attack against plaintiffs. It would restrict their access to the civil courts, thereby funneling all vaccine injury cases into the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. Simultaneously, it would debauch that program with arbitrary provisions, such as excluding ANY vaccine ingredient from classification as an adulterant or contaminant. Futhermore, it would REVERSE the burden of proof, set unrealistic damage limits, and altogether eliminate class-action suits...each stipulation meticulously crafted to secure impunity for the routine maiming American children. One other point, with regard to the bigger picture: This bill coheres the martial-law takeover now being orchestrated in the guise of terrorism legislation. It would further restrict public recourse against *mandatory mass-innoculation* by the military (please read the Model States Emergency Health Powers Act www.publichealthlaw.net) following future incidents. The US has already requisitioned 300 million doses of live-virus smallpox vaccine, a $509M windfall for Acambis Pharmaceuticals[8]. Thus far, the funding, training and personnel behind major US terrorism is traceable to CIA (9-11 OKC), FBI (the first WC bombing) and high-level, political conspirators bent on transforming the US into a dictatorship under non-elective entities like Homeland Security, FEMA and foreign NATO forces[9]. Therefore, please refuse all participation with these anti-American, fascist operatives. Thank you for your attention. For the text of Frist's bill S 2053, please see: http://thomas.loc.gov/ For and an exhastive analysis of S 2053, please see: www.vaccineinjury.org **For an EXTENSIVE list of parents' doctors' organizations opposing mandatory child vaccination, see: http://www.azavenue.com/kelly/organizations.htm ...and especially http://www.vaccineinfo.net/index.html Footnotes: [1] From Ottowah Dept. of Health: http://www.city.ottawa.on.ca/city_services/yourhealth/environmental/ethylene_facts_en.shtml Ethylene glycol...is rapidly absorbed and broken down in the body to form a substance that is toxic to the kidneys. [2] From CDC: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts96.html Ethylene glycol affects the body's chemistry by increasing the amount of acid, resulting in metabolic problems. [3] 16 medical studies cited: http://www.geocities.com/pulone8/pulone8index.html [4] Highlights from U. S. Dept. of Labor info: http://www.rvchem.net/hazard.htm [5] From National Safety Council: http://www.nsc.org/ehc/indoor/formald.htm there is no known threshold level below which there is no threat of cancer. Formaldehyde has been shown to cause cancer in laboratory animals, and the U.S. ...Also: http://www.healthyvermonters.info/hp/airquality/formaldehyde.shtml#two Environmental Protection Agency has classified formaldehyde as a probable human carcinogen. [6] From Kansas Department of Health and Environment: http://www.kdhe.state.ks.us/mercury/#health Elemental mercury and mercury compounds pose an extreme health hazard, particularly to developing fetuses, young children...permanent damage to the brain [7] Medical articles abound linking mercury/Thimerisol to autism. Suggested starting point: http://www.garynull.com/Documents/autism_99.htm [8] For insight into collusion between Acambis, Hitler and the Bush family, please see: http://www.americanreddoublecross.com/news/ChinasBloodTrail.htm [9] For 2 hours of documented evidence, please see http://64.245.24.77/Alex/alex_jones.html Respectfully, Russ Rosser
Re: CSOur Wonderful FDA At Work Again
Eeew! I am assuming this is the brand, Quorn? We carry Quorn meatless chicken nuggets and patties at the health food store where I work. I love these things even though I am not a vegetarian. I'll have to read the box tomorrow. CS question: I have been getting sharp pains in one of my ears since this afternoon. I am going to put a few drops of CS in the ear tonight. Is this ok to do? Beth Brawn - Original Message - From: Bill Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: CSOur Wonderful FDA At Work Again WASHINGTON (AP) -- A health advocacy group accused the government Monday of allowing fake meat made from fungus to be sold even though it makes people sick and demanded the product, known as Quorn, be recalled. The Center for Science in the Public Interest said it had received reports from 33 people who had suffered vomiting, diarrhea and other ailments after eating Quorn. A North Carolina man broke out in hives and had trouble breathing, the group said. Quorn is the trade name for mycoprotein, which is used as a substitute for ground beef and chicken, and in lasagna and fettuccine Alfredo. Quorn mycoprotein has been proven to cause severe digestive reactions, Michael Jacobson, CSPI's executive director, said in a letter to the Food and Drug Administration. Those reactions have led to fainting and dehydration, which could be life-threatening. Because mycoprotein makes some people sick, it cannot be considered Generally Recognized as Safe -- as designated by the FDA. Labels on Quorn products say mycoprotein comes from a member of the mushroom family. But critics say that's a stretch and that the FDA should have studied it more before it hit the shelves in American supermarkets. The FDA's stance with regard to Quorn has been 'get sick first, ask questions later,' Jacobson said. This product was cavalierly waved through by the FDA with an alarming lack of curiosity even though the government had seen evidence that it made people sick. CSPI, citing documents it obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, said one study showed nearly 10 percent of people who ate Quorn reported feeling nauseated or sick to their stomachs. An FDA official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the agency was reviewing the information provided by CSPI and would evaluate all available data on Quorn before deciding how to proceed. Quorn, introduced in Britain in 1985, arrived in U.S. supermarkets in January. Its popularity in Europe now rivals that of soyburgers and other meat substitutes. Copyright 2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSnewbies with doubts about cs
I am a newbie in the cs neighbohood i have big doubts and am searching as much as i can about its saftey and benefits for all it's supposed to be cracked up to be. i've only been taking the stuff for a couple of days with caution so i can not say for sure that i's going to work for my conditions in particular.anyway i made up search catagory on msn and called it silver nature's purifer at the top of the catagory list was a site called Cera water library. This is a must read article exposing how Nasa the Soviets and various public facilities are all using forms of silver to purify and sanitize water and every thing else. This information is making me think more positive about cs. tell me what you think. thank you - Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs
Re: CSnewbies with doubts about cs
That is old widely known information. Where is this url? It might have some more information on it that is new or not widely known. Marshall mars larz wrote: I am a newbie in the cs neighbohood i have big doubts and am searching as much as i can about its saftey and benefits for all it's supposed to be cracked up to be. i've only been taking the stuff for a couple of days with caution so i can not say for sure that i's going to work for my conditions in particular.anyway i made up search catagory on msn and called it silver nature's purifer at the top of the catagory list was a site called Cera water library. This is a must read article exposing how Nasa the Soviets and various public facilities are all using forms of silver to purify and sanitize water and every thing else. This information is making me think more positive about cs. tell me what you think. thank you --- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs
Re: CSOur Wonderful FDA At Work Again
Many people on this list have used CS and 3% H2O2 (separately) in the ear and reported very good results. Marshall Beth wrote: Eeew! I am assuming this is the brand, Quorn? We carry Quorn meatless chicken nuggets and patties at the health food store where I work. I love these things even though I am not a vegetarian. I'll have to read the box tomorrow. CS question: I have been getting sharp pains in one of my ears since this afternoon. I am going to put a few drops of CS in the ear tonight. Is this ok to do? Beth Brawn - Original Message - From: Bill Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: CSOur Wonderful FDA At Work Again WASHINGTON (AP) -- A health advocacy group accused the government Monday of allowing fake meat made from fungus to be sold even though it makes people sick and demanded the product, known as Quorn, be recalled. The Center for Science in the Public Interest said it had received reports from 33 people who had suffered vomiting, diarrhea and other ailments after eating Quorn. A North Carolina man broke out in hives and had trouble breathing, the group said. Quorn is the trade name for mycoprotein, which is used as a substitute for ground beef and chicken, and in lasagna and fettuccine Alfredo. Quorn mycoprotein has been proven to cause severe digestive reactions, Michael Jacobson, CSPI's executive director, said in a letter to the Food and Drug Administration. Those reactions have led to fainting and dehydration, which could be life-threatening. Because mycoprotein makes some people sick, it cannot be considered Generally Recognized as Safe -- as designated by the FDA. Labels on Quorn products say mycoprotein comes from a member of the mushroom family. But critics say that's a stretch and that the FDA should have studied it more before it hit the shelves in American supermarkets. The FDA's stance with regard to Quorn has been 'get sick first, ask questions later,' Jacobson said. This product was cavalierly waved through by the FDA with an alarming lack of curiosity even though the government had seen evidence that it made people sick. CSPI, citing documents it obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, said one study showed nearly 10 percent of people who ate Quorn reported feeling nauseated or sick to their stomachs. An FDA official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the agency was reviewing the information provided by CSPI and would evaluate all available data on Quorn before deciding how to proceed. Quorn, introduced in Britain in 1985, arrived in U.S. supermarkets in January. Its popularity in Europe now rivals that of soyburgers and other meat substitutes. Copyright 2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOur Wonderful FDA At Work Again
Keith wrote: Beth Said:CS question: I have been getting sharp pains in one of my ears since this afternoon. I am going to put a few drops of CS in the ear tonight. Is this ok to do?Beth Brawn Yes. It is safe to use pure CS anywhere inside or outside your body. to relieve soreness from breast feeding, and much more... Is this a topical application? I would advise not using CS on the breasts until the baby starts having normal bowel movements. It is my understanding that the breasts are a good source of the probiotics the baby needs to set up in the intestines for proper digestion, and CS would surely kill those. Marshall
Re: CSOur Wonderful FDA At Work Again
Beth Said: CS question: I have been getting sharp pains in one of my ears since this afternoon. I am going to put a few drops of CS in the ear tonight. Is this ok to do? Beth Brawn Yes. It is safe to use pure CS anywhere inside or outside your body. The people using the CS I make have used it for: Sore throats, ear infections, warts, Acne, 2 cases of Arthritis, diaper rash, an eight year old genital heat/yeast rash, burns, cuts heal faster, yeast infection, mosquito bites, spider bites, a ten year old toe fungus, plant fungus, eye infections, flea bites, mouthwash, after shave, food preservation, cut flowers, water purification, pet's eye infection, allergies, nebulizer breathing treatments for Asthma and Bronchitis, Poison Ivy, Kidney infection, to relieve soreness from breast feeding, and much more... Keith Pittman
Re: CShepatitis-c geno type 1 non responder to peg and herpes questions
I have a friend who has been getting cold sore regularly for as many years as I can remember. She started taking CS last December. She also had the tingle feeling of a cold sore beginning two times since then, but they never emerged. That was it, so I would say the CS did it! Nancy - Original Message - From: cmccau...@kayescholer.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: CShepatitis-c geno type 1 non responder to peg and herpes questions is there anybody out there who has tried peg or any other interferon combo treatments and did not respond? if so please e-mail me I a am new to cs i'm just trying CS I have purchased the new advanced CS made through a mesoprocess When i was on peg i did partially respond my viral load was over a million and my final load dropped down to the low thousands. I would not even dare try to make CS on my own as i am still unsure of what could happen down the road. thank you p.s. any advice on getting rid of cold sores would be helpful also thank you = shepp I personally have not tried peg-entron (sp?) but since I am Hep C positive and have many friends who are also, I have been asked to. Also, a very good friend of mine just stopped taking it and it did nothing but make her very, very ill. She said that her viral load went down while she was on it, but it rose again after she stopped and is now back at the same place it was before she started. She is not the only friend I have that has gotten very sick while taking that 'poison'. I personally will NOT put that stuff in my body. Not after seeing what my friends went through. And I won't even begin to mention the costs involved, especially if you have no insurance or Medicaid. If you would like to talk with her, I can have her email you. Let me know. Regarding the cold sore/herpes virus, I also have been cursed with that (not the mouth cold sore type either!) and I usually get those sores at least once a month. Sometimes more often. Since I started taking the CS I've been making, I only had one sore start to form. I started to get the tingle in the back of my leg but it never developed past that. Usually when I get that tingle, I get a sore two days later. But this time it didn't happen. Was it the CS? It's the only thing I've done differently this month so I tend to think it is. Just my opinion though. Any time without one of those sores is a blessing and if the CS can keep them away, I'll take it. If the CS can do all the other wonderful things it seems to be able to do, I'll take it forever. Again, just my opinion. Thanks, Christine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnewbies with doubts about cs
Marz writes: at the top of the catagory list was a site called Cera water library. How about the link? Found nothing for Cera water library; but did come across Royal Doulton's (yes, THAT Royal Doulton) seemingly reasonable prices for water candles that: ...provides absolute mechanical filtration to .9 of a micron. 99.999% rejection of bacteria and cysts... http://www.doulton.ca/brouch_1.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: DRUGS LAW IS BITTER PILL FOR HEALTH SHOPS
James writes: The British equivalent of the AMA recently issued a warning that vit. C, in doses around 500 mg/day causes cancer. For me, that means it probably works really good to prevent disease. ...and the EU, not to be outdone when it comes to, e.g. cancer: European Commission March, 2001 report: Taking into account the pathways and realistic scenarios of human exposure, radiological exposure to depleted uranium [a key munitions component] could not cause a detectable effect on human health (e.g. cancer). http://www.deploymentlink.osd.mil/du_library/health.shtml jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
