CS>Tylosin

2002-10-07 Thread Robb Allen
Hi to everyone.I've been on silver now for about a year for my 
Rheumatoid Arthritis...I"ve a tremendous improvement, however CS seems to 
do alot more to clear up my bloodstream than it does to kill Mycoplasma already 
living in my joints.  I was trying H202 for a while..and even though it seems 
to help alot with the pain...{I don't know why}  it sorta scares me.  I've been 
readin alot here lately about tylosin...{usually a drug for animals}...I'm 
not sure if there is a human version or not...from what I've been reading 
this stuff is supposed to really wipe out mycoplasma in a hurryorally 
it is not quite as effective as IM.  I am thinking very seriously about trying 
this to rid myself of the last 10% of my arthritis.  I've owned and operated a 
farm for my entire life and it is well known that if you have a hog that is 
sick and down from arthritis, Tylosin will clear it up in a hurry...why do 
they not do this for humans?...I've seen the list of what it kills and it 
is a vast list.almost as big as CS itself.  I wish there was a way for me 
to get the CS deeper into my joints where it could do the job becuase I know it 
kills what I have.  When I quit taking it for a break..and then start 
again..I have a herx reaction for about the first week..and then some 
major improvement.and then it levels off leaving me much better than 
before.but still with the critters living in my joints...Tylosin may be 
my answer..?.I don't know.still reading hereRobb


Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread DWells2530
Marshall,


> We had E-Coli tested with 3.5 ppm CS by UT in 1999, and the results were a 
> 100%
> kill.
> >>

I dont doubt this at all. Salmonella is easily killed outside the body also 
but not inside! Common spit will kill HIV in vitro but it doesnt do much 
inside the body! Apples against oranges I say!:-)

Don Wells





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say or do totally justified,





Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread DWells2530
Hi Marshall,

> .  As I am sure you know from all the discussions we have had here 
> previously oral CS is usless for upper respiratory, since there is no way 
> for it to reach the infected mucus via that route. 
>>>
I have to beg your pardon a bit ! Do you know how many times I have read how 
great CS is and how it in its smallest forms is absorbed by the blood and 
carried all over the body and suffocates bad bugs wherver it finds them? How 
about the differences between Colloidal and ionic and how one works so much 
better then the other and on and on and on! Thoise testimonmials from all 
sorts of folks how wonderful it was at curing everything from protatitis and 
HIV! Now how the hell does it come into contact with the prostrate if its not 
absorbed in the intestines? How does it get to HIV yet other things much less 
innocuous are not effected? Seems to me the conditions it now is supposed to 
treat have been greatly over exagerated by many!

Don Wells


If you make a few ridiculous assumptions, you'll find everything I 
say or do totally justified,





CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V102 #748

2002-10-07 Thread Melody Dickey

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:02 PM
Subject: silver-digest Digest V102 #748

That sounds very similar to what we see alot in the papers around here
(North Eastern Ohio).  There are alot of Amish in this community - they tout
oodles of "natural remedies".  I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this ad was
found in the "Bargain Hunter".  I believe one of their areas would cover
about 43 thousand homes.  That would be the first paper I'd start with if I
wanted to find an ad such as this.

Melody

- Original Message -
From: "Connie" 
To: "CSCats -Dogs" ; "silver- list"

Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:48 PM
Subject: CS>FW: tonight 5:30 news


> Our local news had a very brief blurb tonight.
> Here is the text:
>
> --
> From: Amanda Daggett 
> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:35:42 -0400
> To: 'Connie ' 
> Subject: RE: tonight 5:30 news
>
> Connie,
>  Here is what we read at 5:00
>
>  MEDICAL OFFICIALS ARE WARNING THAT A SILVER POTION MARKETED AS A
> PROTECTANT AGAINST WEST NILE VIRUS IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
>  A NORTHEAST OHIO COMPANY SAYS IN NEWSPAPER ADS THAT ITS MEDICINE
> PREVENTS INFECTION.
>  THE PAPERS WERE DELIVERED TO 43-THOUSAND HOMES IN OHIO.
>  THE POTION COSTS 28-DOLLARS.###
>
>  I hope this information is helpful,,,thanks for writing, and have a
> great day!
> Amanda
>
>
> I will attempt a search of Ohio newspapers tomorrow, see if I can find
more
> on this.
>
> Connie



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Re: CS>Re: PREVENT ACID REFLUX

2002-10-07 Thread Brickeyk
Paula see www.Drmirken.com website and check out what he says about stomach 
ulcers.  He says 24 different bacteria can cause this condition and we do not 
have tests for all 24.  Even if a DR tests for H Pylori and picks a wrong 
spot it can come up negative when it is present.  He claims a 92% cure rate 
for several antibiotics plus Prilosec.  He says copy his letter and show it 
to your doctor and ask to be given the medicine.  I have been trying to take 
CS mixed with MSM and Gatorade for quite some time.  I am improving but 
slowly.  I tried the cayenne pepper and fresh ginger juice for at least one 
year and my DR took pictures of a bleeding ulcer with his scope and had to 
spread out my esophagus as food was getting stuck when trying to swallow.  
The last issue of Prevention says that H Pylori is difficult to get rid of 
and suggested 1/2 cup of broccoli sprouts per day.

This winter I will show my Chelation Mexican DR,  Mirkins report and try the 
antibiotic route.  I tried his second procedure as I had some left over 
Amoxicillin my wife had to take prior to dental work and some Tetracycline I 
use for my KOI fish fin problems.  I don't believe that they helped.

I attended a university class on Christmas tree problems last week.  I asked 
the plant DR if he heard of using vinegar for fungus problems.  He said for 
surface type molds like powdery mildew on rose bushes it might work but most 
tree fungus problems are in their root system and he doubts that it would 
help.  They recommend a borox product called Sporax to be applied to the 
fresh cut stump.  I sprayed a CS mixture on the fresh cut stumps last year.  
A bunch of small trees died this year but we had a very dry summer.

Brickey


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Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dean Miller wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:12 EDT, dwells2...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >CS might kill
> >certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific testing at
> >my behest we have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper respiratory
> >conditions involving E.coli and other bacteria.
>
> Have you, personally, actually tested this??  I don't know about
> E.coli, but it does work on other bacteria in the lungs (and worked
> for viral pneumonia)!

We had E-Coli tested with 3.5 ppm CS by UT in 1999, and the results were a 100%
kill.

Marshall


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Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
18 hours!  Wow.  You must have waited a long time before hitting the CS.  I
find 2 to 4 minutes to be closer to how long it takes to recover from
salmonella when taken within 15 minutes of the first sign of trouble.

Marshall

Bill Missett wrote:

> I have killed three cases of salmonella typhus with CS, each in 18 hours
> instead of the 18 days it takes your body to overcome salmonella.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dean Miller" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa
>
> > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:12 EDT, dwells2...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >CS might kill
> > >certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific
> testing at
> > >my behest we have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper
> respiratory
> > >conditions involving E.coli and other bacteria.
> >
> > Have you, personally, actually tested this??  I don't know about
> > E.coli, but it does work on other bacteria in the lungs (and worked
> > for viral pneumonia)!
> >
> > > Salmonella infections of the
> > >trachea and Intestinal tract, and the list goes on. Now I suppose I will
> get
> > >notes from all the diehards out there that dont want to hear this news!
> >
> > It's not news.  It's improper application.
> >
> > >Go
> > >ahead use it and just be careful with playing with others lives!.
> >
> > I might suggest the same to you.
> >
> > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
dwells2...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Christine,
>
>
>
>> It is too bad that CS doesn't work on this.  Maybe it does, but only
>> if
>> used alot longer.  This type of disease/protozoa grows very fast and
>> it
>> seems that you don't have much time to experiement on the treatment
>> type.
>> After the bloody poo starts, you only have a few days to kill the
>> prot. or
>> you'll lose the patient.
>> >>
>
> I am glad you finally went another route and didnt stick to the CS. It
> plainly doesn't work on Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccisosis species)
> despite what you may have read. What disturbs me so much is that after
> all this time spent researching all the literature on the net and in
> books etc the people that extoll CS so loudly are misrepresenting it
> totally! CS might kill certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice
> and with scientific testing at my behest we have found it to be
> absolutely useless used on Upper respiratory conditions involving
> E.coli and other bacteria.

I am surprised. I have found CS to be great for these types of
infections, and avoidiing pneumonia.  What ppm CS did you use, and how
long and how often did you nebulize for?  I have never heard of it not
working for anyone before.

> Salmonella infections of the trachea and Intestinal tract, and the
> list goes on.

CS is ineffective in the intestines normally. This is good news, for if
it were not, it would do a real number on the natural flora in the
intestines. Fortunately discomfort is normally felt before it involves
the intestines so most things can get licked in the bud before they move
to the intestines.  I see no misrepresentation.  This has been discussed
here many, many times.

> Now I suppose I will get notes from all the diehards out there that
> dont want to hear this news! Go ahead use it and just be careful with
> playing with others lives!. I am just not the believer I once was in
> this so called mir! acle cure. I have found other things far better I
> feel in the meantime, that do work!

I still have not heard of any stories of it not working when it would be
expected to work. It is like you have read through the archives and
found those places where it will not work, and then are touting them.
There is nothing new here.  We know it doesn't work in the intestines
very well, and we know why, and we are glad it doesn't.

Please advise on the upper respiratory.  If you did not nebulize at
least every hour for several hours, then you did not give it a fair
trail.  As I am sure you know from all the discussions we have had here
previously oral CS is usless for upper respiratory, since there is no
way for it to reach the infected mucus via that route.

Marshall


Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread DWells2530
Hi James,

First, before I answer the questions as best I can I want to get something 
off my chest! Please indulge me a bit?

The events I have given here regarding my research using CS in animals and 
birds has elicited the reactions I expected from a great many diehards who 
are so fervent in believing that CS is the end all to modern mans medical 
problems that they will not give in to any scientific proof whatsoever! So be 
it! I wanted to be a total convert also once upon a time but my personal 
drive always leads me to want to prove it to myself without just swallowing 
everything one reads on the net! I fortunately had the means to do this 
recently and I was not happy with the results but I am convinced that they 
are accurate and to the best of my knowledge followed many of the printed 
protocols that are so commonly handed out on the net as well as in books etc. 
What amazes me now is all of a sudden so many are telling me after the fact, 
that I must not have done the experiments right or used the CS correctly or 
didn't know how to make it etc etc. Nonsense, I have followed the 
instructions and gone the second mile to do so! Do I doubt that CS is 
effective at all? No, I know it works in some cases, I have had it work on 
some things myself. What I do resent is that all of a sudden my poopooing CS 
effectiveness  has drawn out the minions of believers who have never tested 
it really other then anecdotally!

> Hi Don,
>  
> Did any of the tests using CS against lung infections include CS and MSM or 
> DMSO nebulized with O2 and inhaled?

>
James, why now is it necessary to add all these things to make it effective? 
Why don't we see all these things in lists published elsewhere where accounts 
of the wonderful effectiveness of CS alone is written about? Not being 
hostile just wondering why it is when the CS doesn't live up to muster all of 
a sudden a million other reasons for its failure are thrown out?

The answer is no. The CS was used in a medical grade nebulisor and was given 
repeatedly to birds with severe to mild Aspergillosis infections in the 
lungs. To no avail!


>  
> According to Dr. Bart A. Flick, in extensive tests, no bacteria was found 
> that withstood CS in even very dilute solutions.  One would assume they 
> tried it against the most common pathogens, but not necessarily so. 

>>>
In vivo perhaps not? In Vitro on a plate I can understand this. As I think 
you suggested before, it might be effective on contact however, many 
testimonials do not specify this anywhere else? Usually a miraculous cure is 
reported from just ingesting the CS.

>  
> Regarding:  "It plainly doesn't work on Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccidiosis 
> species) despite what you may have read."  And, "we have found it to be 
> absolutely useless used on Upper respiratory conditions involving E.coli 
> and other bacteria. Salmonella infections of the trachea and Intestinal 
> tract, and the list goes on."
>  
> Is more detail available about how you came to that conclusion?  Are there 
> specific studies? 

>>
Just to demonstrate. We had a group of neonatal parrots being handfed with a 
souplike formula of nutritious foods appropriate for this purpose. I asked 
our vets to perform bacterial studies using approved methods for collecting, 
growing and treating any bacterial organisms that showed up in these birds. 
The swabs were made from the throats and cloacas of several birds. Bacteria 
in the form of E.Coli, Klebsiella, Pseudomonas, Salmonella were all found.

The birds were each given undiluted  10PPM CS from  Silvergen machine 
produced batches. The Cs was dosed from sterile syringes four times a day 
prior to feeding the birds.

After a three week period tests were again performed to see the effectiveness 
of the CS. None was noted, in fact many bacteria were now in even greater 
amounts. No arrest whatsoever was seen!

>  
> Could you briefly describe what Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccidosis species) 
> are and what diseases they cause, the frequency of occurrence, and the 
> conventional treatment? 

>>
Both are classic forms of Coccidia. Coccidia are found throughout the world 
in hundreds of forms generally falling under these two groups. Disease is 
often demonstrated when these Protozoan proliferate in the intestines to the 
point that they cause acute bleeding and sloughing of the mucosal lining of 
the intestinal tract. This is accomplished when the populations reach such 
high numbers that their tiny but irritating bodies irritate the villi of the 
intestines, sort of like what you would envision sand particles doing between 
your toes if not removed during a long walk. Both forms of Coccidia can 
proliferate at amazing speed and its poorly understood why they do this. It 
seems stress is a direct cue to them to reproduce like crazy? Amprol as 
suggested as well as a host of other antibiotic type meds will work depending 
on sensitivities. Sulfas often exhibit f

RE: CS>Ole Bob's website

2002-10-07 Thread Ivan Anderson
Rich, I guess it comes down to what you mean by "runaway".
The contrary to "runaway" is current controlled or limited, where the
current reaches a certain level and stays at that level. The level is
set to limit the amount of sludge (dendrites) being produced, and on
the supplied example (http://www.hvacsilver.com/lvdc_cs.htm) this
would be somewhat before "Heavy Treeing on Cathode" mark.

However, this example uses constant stirring and therefore does not
qualify as a constant voltage generator, but rather needs the constant
stirring qualifier because the processes differ. Stop the stirring and
then the current, I suspect, will rise exponentially (to a point) and
the CS will eventually become a dirty grey.

That, is what I understand current "runaway" to mean.

Regards
Ivan

> -Original Message-
> From: Rich Adams [mailto:r...@kc.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2002 10:21 a.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Ole Bob's website
>
>
> Where did it "runaway" though?  Your just talking about
> production rate.
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> > How so?  the rate of production is over 15 times higher
> at the 100 minute
> > mark than at the 10 minute mark.
>
>
> Yeah, and the 180 minute mark is less then the the 100
> minute mark so where
> is the runaway?
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: CS>FW: tonight 5:30 news

2002-10-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Main Entry: po.tion
Pronunciation: 'pO-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English pocioun, from Middle French potion, from Latin
potion-, potio drink, potion, from potare to drink -- more at POTABLE
Date: 14th century
: a mixture of liquids (as liquor or medicine)

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:49 PM
To: CSCats -Dogs; silver- list
Subject: CS>FW: tonight 5:30 news


Our local news had a very brief blurb tonight.
Here is the text:

--
From: Amanda Daggett 
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:35:42 -0400
To: 'Connie ' 
Subject: RE: tonight 5:30 news

Connie,
 Here is what we read at 5:00

 MEDICAL OFFICIALS ARE WARNING THAT A SILVER POTION MARKETED AS A
PROTECTANT AGAINST WEST NILE VIRUS IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
 A NORTHEAST OHIO COMPANY SAYS IN NEWSPAPER ADS THAT ITS MEDICINE
PREVENTS INFECTION.
 THE PAPERS WERE DELIVERED TO 43-THOUSAND HOMES IN OHIO.
 THE POTION COSTS 28-DOLLARS.###

 I hope this information is helpful,,,thanks for writing, and have a
great day!
Amanda


I will attempt a search of Ohio newspapers tomorrow, see if I can find more
on this.

Connie





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RE: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Bill,

Can you share more details? 

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa


I have killed three cases of salmonella typhus with CS, each in 18 hours
instead of the 18 days it takes your body to overcome salmonella.


- Original Message -
From: "Dean Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa


> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:12 EDT, dwells2...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >CS might kill
> >certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific
testing at
> >my behest we have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper
respiratory
> >conditions involving E.coli and other bacteria.
>
> Have you, personally, actually tested this??  I don't know about
> E.coli, but it does work on other bacteria in the lungs (and worked
> for viral pneumonia)!
>
> > Salmonella infections of the
> >trachea and Intestinal tract, and the list goes on. Now I suppose I will
get
> >notes from all the diehards out there that dont want to hear this news!
>
> It's not news.  It's improper application.
>
> >Go
> >ahead use it and just be careful with playing with others lives!.
>
> I might suggest the same to you.
>
> -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF
>
>
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RE: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Don,

Did any of the tests using CS against lung infections include CS and MSM or
DMSO nebulized with O2 and inhaled?

According to Dr. Bart A. Flick, in extensive tests, no bacteria was found
that withstood CS in even very dilute solutions.  One would assume they
tried it against the most common pathogens, but not necessarily so.

Regarding:  "It plainly doesn't work on Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccisosis
species) despite what you may have read."  And, "we have found it to be
absolutely useless used on Upper respiratory conditions involving E.coli and
other bacteria. Salmonella infections of the trachea and Intestinal tract,
and the list goes on."

Is more detail available about how you came to that conclusion?  Are there
specific studies?

Could you briefly describe what Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccisosis species)
are and what diseases they cause, the frequency of occurrence, and the
conventional treatment?

Thanks in advance for sharing your information.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: dwells2...@aol.com [mailto:dwells2...@aol.com]
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:16 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa


  Hi Christine,



It is too bad that CS doesn't work on this.  Maybe it does, but only if
used alot longer.  This type of disease/protozoa grows very fast and it
seems that you don't have much time to experiement on the treatment
type.
After the bloody poo starts, you only have a few days to kill the prot.
or
you'll lose the patient.
>>


  I am glad you finally went another route and didnt stick to the CS. It
plainly doesn't work on Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccisosis species) despite
what you may have read. What disturbs me so much is that after all this time
spent researching all the literature on the net and in books etc the people
that extoll CS so loudly are misrepresenting it totally! CS might kill
certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific testing
at my behest we have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper
respiratory conditions involving E.coli and other bacteria. Salmonella
infections of the trachea and Intestinal tract, and the list goes on. Now I
suppose I will get notes from all the diehards out there that dont want to
hear this news! Go ahead use it and just be careful with playing with others
lives!. I am just not the believer I once was in this so called mir! acle
cure. I have found other things far better I feel in the meantime, that do
work!

  Don Wells





  If you make a few ridiculous assumptions, you'll find everything I
  say or do totally justified,






CS>FW: tonight 5:30 news

2002-10-07 Thread Connie
Our local news had a very brief blurb tonight.
Here is the text:

--
From: Amanda Daggett 
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:35:42 -0400
To: 'Connie ' 
Subject: RE: tonight 5:30 news

Connie,
 Here is what we read at 5:00

 MEDICAL OFFICIALS ARE WARNING THAT A SILVER POTION MARKETED AS A
PROTECTANT AGAINST WEST NILE VIRUS IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
 A NORTHEAST OHIO COMPANY SAYS IN NEWSPAPER ADS THAT ITS MEDICINE
PREVENTS INFECTION.
 THE PAPERS WERE DELIVERED TO 43-THOUSAND HOMES IN OHIO.
 THE POTION COSTS 28-DOLLARS.###

 I hope this information is helpful,,,thanks for writing, and have a
great day!
Amanda


I will attempt a search of Ohio newspapers tomorrow, see if I can find more
on this.

Connie





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Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread Bill Missett
I have killed three cases of salmonella typhus with CS, each in 18 hours
instead of the 18 days it takes your body to overcome salmonella.


- Original Message -
From: "Dean Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa


> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:12 EDT, dwells2...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >CS might kill
> >certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific
testing at
> >my behest we have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper
respiratory
> >conditions involving E.coli and other bacteria.
>
> Have you, personally, actually tested this??  I don't know about
> E.coli, but it does work on other bacteria in the lungs (and worked
> for viral pneumonia)!
>
> > Salmonella infections of the
> >trachea and Intestinal tract, and the list goes on. Now I suppose I will
get
> >notes from all the diehards out there that dont want to hear this news!
>
> It's not news.  It's improper application.
>
> >Go
> >ahead use it and just be careful with playing with others lives!.
>
> I might suggest the same to you.
>
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Re: CS>Ole Bob's website

2002-10-07 Thread Dean Miller
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:21:09 -0500, "Rich Adams" 
wrote:

>Where did it "runaway" though?  Your just talking about production rate.

But what you're producing isn't what you want.  I sure don't want
silver I can chew, and that's what's being produced at peak current.

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Re: CS>Re: the blue senator

2002-10-07 Thread Jack Dayton
sol wrote:
 No one is questioning his honesty.
Why not?

> From: Marshall Dudley 
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: the blue senator
 
> Because he is a libertarian?
> 
> Marshal 
***

I'll accept that explaination Marshall.

Jack

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Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread Dean Miller
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:16:12 EDT, dwells2...@aol.com wrote:

>CS might kill 
>certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific testing at 
>my behest we have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper respiratory 
>conditions involving E.coli and other bacteria.

Have you, personally, actually tested this??  I don't know about
E.coli, but it does work on other bacteria in the lungs (and worked
for viral pneumonia)!

> Salmonella infections of the 
>trachea and Intestinal tract, and the list goes on. Now I suppose I will get 
>notes from all the diehards out there that dont want to hear this news! 

It's not news.  It's improper application.

>Go 
>ahead use it and just be careful with playing with others lives!. 

I might suggest the same to you.

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Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread akaJhon
like what ???
  - Original Message - 
  From: dwells2...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 8:16 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa


  Hi Christine,



It is too bad that CS doesn't work on this.  Maybe it does, but only if
used alot longer.  This type of disease/protozoa grows very fast and it
seems that you don't have much time to experiement on the treatment type.
After the bloody poo starts, you only have a few days to kill the prot. or
you'll lose the patient.
>>


  I am glad you finally went another route and didnt stick to the CS. It 
plainly doesn't work on Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccisosis species) despite what 
you may have read. What disturbs me so much is that after all this time spent 
researching all the literature on the net and in books etc the people that 
extoll CS so loudly are misrepresenting it totally! CS might kill certain bugs 
I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific testing at my behest we 
have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper respiratory conditions 
involving E.coli and other bacteria. Salmonella infections of the trachea and 
Intestinal tract, and the list goes on. Now I suppose I will get notes from all 
the diehards out there that dont want to hear this news! Go ahead use it and 
just be careful with playing with others lives!. I am just not the believer I 
once was in this so called mir! acle cure. I have found other things far better 
I feel in the meantime, that do work!

  Don Wells





  If you make a few ridiculous assumptions, you'll find everything I 
  say or do totally justified,






Re: CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread DWells2530
Hi Christine,


> It is too bad that CS doesn't work on this.  Maybe it does, but only if
> used alot longer.  This type of disease/protozoa grows very fast and it
> seems that you don't have much time to experiement on the treatment type.
> After the bloody poo starts, you only have a few days to kill the prot. or
> you'll lose the patient.
> >>

I am glad you finally went another route and didnt stick to the CS. It 
plainly doesn't work on Isospora or Eimeria ( Coccisosis species) despite 
what you may have read. What disturbs me so much is that after all this time 
spent researching all the literature on the net and in books etc the people 
that extoll CS so loudly are misrepresenting it totally! CS might kill 
certain bugs I dont doubt that but in practice and with scientific testing at 
my behest we have found it to be absolutely useless used on Upper respiratory 
conditions involving E.coli and other bacteria. Salmonella infections of the 
trachea and Intestinal tract, and the list goes on. Now I suppose I will get 
notes from all the diehards out there that dont want to hear this news! Go 
ahead use it and just be careful with playing with others lives!. I am just 
not the believer I once was in this so called miracle cure. I have found 
other things far better I feel in the meantime, that do work!

Don Wells





If you make a few ridiculous assumptions, you'll find everything I 
say or do totally justified,





Re: CS>Silver Facts: hints at CS in drinking water Argria and Stan Jones

2002-10-07 Thread George
On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 07:38:04 GMT, Heidrun Beer wrote:

>
>Because distilled water disturbs the body cell's osmosis (balance
>of salts inside/outside of cells). In essence, it washes necessary
>minerals out of the body.
>

You earlier admitted that you don't know what you are talking about but it 
seems that you can't bring yourself to 
stop... 



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Re: CS>Ole Bob's website

2002-10-07 Thread Rich Adams
Where did it "runaway" though?  Your just talking about production rate.


- Original Message -

> How so?  the rate of production is over 15 times higher at the 100 minute
> mark than at the 10 minute mark.


Yeah, and the 180 minute mark is less then the the 100 minute mark so where
is the runaway?





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Re: CS>Ole Bob's website

2002-10-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
How so?  the rate of production is over 15 times higher at the 100 minute
mark than at the 10 minute mark.

Marshall

Rich Adams wrote:

> www.hvacsilver.com
>
> Ole Bob's preliminary website is up and running.
>
> Notice the LVDC plot does not support the commonly thrown around term
> "current runaway".
>
> Respectfully,
> Rich Adams
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CS>Ole Bob's website

2002-10-07 Thread Rich Adams
www.hvacsilver.com

Ole Bob's preliminary website is up and running.

Notice the LVDC plot does not support the commonly thrown around term
"current runaway".

Respectfully,
Rich Adams







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CS>Re: CS and protozoa

2002-10-07 Thread cmccauley

Thank you Nancy.  I got some Corid powder from the feed/farm store (it's
specifically for coccidiosis) and dosed at 1 teaspoon per quart.   This is
working very well.  No more bloody poos - they look a healthy
greenish/brown with white caps now.  No more bloody streaks or tan color.
Plus the little sweeties are more active and alert.

It is too bad that CS doesn't work on this.  Maybe it does, but only if
used alot longer.  This type of disease/protozoa grows very fast and it
seems that you don't have much time to experiement on the treatment type.
After the bloody poo starts, you only have a few days to kill the prot. or
you'll lose the patient.

Thanks again,
Christine





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Re: CS>Re: PREVENT ACID REFLUX

2002-10-07 Thread Acmeair
you might be able to peruse the archives here.  do a search on "gerd"  and 
"Heliobacteria Pylori"
  - Original Message - 
  From: sol 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re: PREVENT ACID REFLUX


  Do you add CS to this? What kind of juice? 
  I was thinking of posting a question re whether CS has any help to offer for 
reflux, my DH has it and it has been much worse lately in spite of his 
following all the medical recommendations, taking the meds, etcI'm actually 
beginning to wonder if there is some kind of infectious process going on in the 
valve...
  paula

RE: CS>Distilled Water and Ghosts

2002-10-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
"some mountain stream water could be better than either"

Much mountain water, however low in minerals and pollutants it may be,
particularly if cattle has access, has Giardia; a protozoan causing
intestinal infection and diarrhea.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled Water and Ghosts


At 08:43 AM 10/7/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Wayne, I guess my thought processes have shut down!  What is RO water?

Reverse Osmosis  which is supposedly the next best thing to
distilled water.  Of course this quality can vary just like distilled water
quality varies.

Actually, some mountain stream water could be better than either,
depending on the makeup of the rocks and soil that gives up the water.

You can find tons of info using any search engine.

This is a simple
explanation.:  http://www.howstuffworks.com/question29.htm

Wayne





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RE: CS>more misinformation from a website

2002-10-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
That is true of only the very high dilutions, said to be the most potent,
where Avagadro's number is exceeded; there are some doses that cannot
contain even an atom of the remedy; only the vibrations.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 6:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>more misinformation from a website


True homeopathic remedies have nothing of the original substance leftthe
final product is the energy of the original substance.
Not so, by any means, with CS.

Chuck put it well once a few months back when another CS product was
claiming to be homeopathiche called it a bastardization of homeopathy.

Connie


> From: Bill Missett 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 06:58:58 -0500
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>more misinformation from a website
> Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 05:46:18 -0700
>
> Dear Catherine:
>
> I know how homeopathic products are produced, and I did not call CS a
> homeopathic product, but stated it was homeopathic in nature, i.e,
> containing an extremely tiny amount of the active ingredient.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "C Creel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>more misinformation from a website
>
>
>> Dear Bill,
>>
>> You said:
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>>
>> Homeopathy requires that a substance be made a certain
>> way in order to be homeopathic.  Specifically, a substance made
> homeopathic
>> is diluted according to a set homeopathic formula, and succussed (shaken
a
>> specific number of times related to the potency being made) each step
>> of the way.  It is in this latter step that homeopathy defines itself.
>>
>>
>> There is not a homeopath in the world who would call CS a homeopathic
>> product.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Catherine
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Re: CS>Silver Facts: hints at CS in drinking water Argria and Stan Jones

2002-10-07 Thread Ode Coyote
 So, drinking rainwater or from a snow melt stream on the top of a mountain
is not a good thing to do?

Ken

At 07:38 AM 10/6/02 GMT, you wrote:
>
>Because distilled water disturbs the body cell's osmosis (balance
>of salts inside/outside of cells). In essence, it washes necessary
>minerals out of the body.
>
>
>On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:54:49 -0600, James Osbourne, Holmes wrote in
>:
>
>>Why is that? 
>>
>>James-Osbourne: Holmes
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Heidrun Beer [mailto:conc...@atnet.at]
>>Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:45 AM
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>Subject: Re: CS>Silver Facts: hints at CS in drinking water Argria and
>>Stan Jones
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:58:36 -0700 (PDT), Paul Ladendorf wrote in
>><20021004045836.30442.qm...@web12905.mail.yahoo.com>:
>>
>>
>>>The water I drink (i.e. my "drinking" water) is distilled water. 
>>
>>
>>A very dangerous thing to do! We learned already at school that
>>only "hard" water should be used for drinking.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Heidrun Beer
>>
>>Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training
>>http://www.sgmt.at
>
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Re: CS>Stan Jones e-mail address

2002-10-07 Thread Ode Coyote
No need the deluge the man with inquiries.
One e-mail will do for us all.


...Mike?...



ken

At 10:09 PM 10/5/02 -0500, you wrote: 

Stan Jones e-mail address:
  
stanjo...@montana.com
  


USPS
  
Stan Jones
P.O. Box 6202
Bozeman, MT. 59771
  
406 522-8546





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