Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Frank, I would not call the use of CS as a Cure, but rather a control of Lupus. In fact, IMHO, this statement can be applied to a number of autoimmune conditions. There is a school of thought that MS, Lupus, Sarcoidosis, R. Arthritis and a few others are primarily caused, not by our immune systems going crazy, but by the immune system's attempt to eliminate a virus or pathogen deep in the tissues of the organ being attacked. In these cases, CS will take care of the virus/pathogen immediately present, and if exposure to these substances never happens again, then in time the damage, if not too severe can be repaired, and subscequently reveresed. Recently there have been some significant studies where onset attacks have been treated with some unusual broad spectrum antibiotics, with great success. In most cases they expect to have to repeat the antibiotic treatment some time in the future. IMHO, this ties in completely with the diet-based cures theory, as it appears that in many cases the virus/pathogen cannot be identified, and that is because there is NONE! The immune response appears to have been triggered by common substances that the body has erroneuously identified as virus/pathogen. Most often these common substances are foods, such as gluten, wheat, corn, dairy, potatoes etc. The theory behind this is that some virus/pathogens disguise themselves as these food molecules, and once the immune systems Natural Killer cells out the disguised invaders (known as lectins), any molecules even resembling these invaders are routed out, hence the body starts attacking itself, and the disease is back. Both these theories make perfect sense to me, so there is my personal auto-immune cure: 1) Kill any viral/pathogen infection with abx. or preferably CS in the most efficient way. 2) Re-educate the immune system, so it can distinguish friend from foe. IMHO, this is best accomplished by a course of immune system infopeptides. (Yes, this does exist). 3) Avoid the offending easily imitated food molecules, such as gluten, wheat, corn, etc. so that the body gets a chance to repair the damage of the attacks, if it can, and to at the very least, prevent further damage. Again, IMHO, this is best accomplished by following the blood type diet, where your food choices are dictated by your blood type, therefore your digestive system will only have to contend with food that it can handle, and only properly processed food molecules will pass into the body tissues, and the immune system will be less likely to react inappropriately. To those of you that would pooh-hooh the blood type diet, bear in mind one thing, our boddies are created with maximum efficiency, purpose and order. If blood type and digestion have no relation at all, why would the gene controlling blood type be located in the midst of the genes that control digestion? As an aside, in horses, the genes controlling blood type are located with the genes that control coat color. In essence, the blood type diet is the practical application of the study of Lectinolgy, which is getting a lot of validation in Europe, etc. 4) Adopt a positive mental attitude regarding the auto-immune condition, using methods like EFT (Emotion Freedom Technique). This will help to keep the body (and Soul) in proper working order, and delay/prevent relapses. This is my take on the cure of most auto-immune conditions. I am not a professional scientist, (and no one would mistake me for one! LOL ) and have used almost all simple laymen terms, but the principles are basically sound, and there is a ton of references out there to back-up my theories. For myself, this has been the control of my MS, Fibromyalgia, carpel tunnel syndrone and CFS. After 6 years of wheelchairs, walkers, canes, blurry vision, etc, I can now begin to envision a time when I might become a useful productive member of society again. I have almost completed one year of NO hospitalizations, great decrease in prescription meds, and even periods of BOREDOM!! There is no magic bullet for auto-immune conditions, which makes sense, as there is no one cause. All MHO. Jannette - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:55 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload. - Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease. - Reactions to drugs. - Genetic metabolic disorder. - Reaction to a chemical, like DDT or a pesticide. - Vaccine reaction. Even a food allergy to bread can cause Lupus like symptoms. Diagnoses usually happens after they find a butterfly rash and elevated ANA, and SED rate. Now, with CS, to be honest. It won't work for all cases for Lupus for a cure. Like If you have a bread allergy, or a reaction to a drug. You can take CS till the cows come home, and it
Re: CSlooing for Susan
It looks like it could be this one: garret...@everett.navy.mil === - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: CSlooing for Susan I am trying to reach Susan Garrett. You had a message awhile ago, and I'd love to talk off line. Please contact me: nancymi...@prodigy.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTDS/PWT meters
Weird. So 0.9=0.5 James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters That is normally called 3 1/2 digits, not 4. Marshall Trem wrote: Hi Jimmy Joe, The PWT does go higher than 2 places plus the decimal. It reads up 199.9. See my post to Ken this morning. Trem - Original Message - From: J J mennj...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Ode Coyote says: snip... The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any higher. ...snip Ken: You actually have a Hanna PWT with a 4 digit display? The attached PWT.JPG from the Hanna website shows only 3 digits. Can't see the decimal point, but it sure looks like only 3 digits. Do you mean that when the uS reading gets above 99.9 another digit shows up on the left and the meter starts reading 100.0 or more, therefore becomes 4 digits? Jimmy Joe _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIndependent Lab?
Is there an independent lab or organization that has evaluated and compared CS generators, giving unbiased product comparisons and ratings? If so, can someone please provide the web address? I have researched archives and find only individuals preferences (or did I miss something?) Many thanks. Linda -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
f.capezzuto wrote: Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload.- Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease.- Reactions to drugs.- Genetic metabolic disorder.- Reaction to a chemical, like DDT or a pesticide.- Vaccine reaction. Even a food allergy to bread can cause Lupus like symptoms. Diagnoses usually happens after they find a butterfly rash and elevated ANA, and SED rate. Now, with CS, to be honest. It won't work for all cases for Lupus for a cure. Like If you have a bread allergy, or a reaction to a drug. You can take CS till the cows come home, and it won't do you much good as far as a cure. It may help with opportunistic infections, since people that have Lupus, usually have lowered immune systems. Now, most cases of Lupus are not caused by genetics. Most cases of Lupus are caused by environmental factors. And most of the environmental factors that I have found that can cause Lupus, are mostly due to infections like Lyme, HIV, Hep C, microplasma and stealth viruses. If that case of Lupus, is cause by a pathogen, then CS should be able to kill off the invador is administered properly. I have heard of HIV cases being put into remission from IV CS. So yes, depending on the cause, a percentage of Lupus victoms can be cured. It is my understanding that lupus is an autoimmune response to assaults as you list above. Thus one can stop the assault, and the lupus may stop advancing, but as long as the immune system is attacking ones own tissue, the CS will be of limited value. I wonder if CMO would help reset the immune system for lupus. That is why I had said earlier that CS might be a great preventative, but not necessarily an effective cure. Marshall
Re: CSTDS/PWT meters
That is standard industry termnology for meters. It does not make sense from a mathmatical standpoint, but is an easy way to indicate a meter that has a 0 or 1 as the first digit. If the first digit can only be a 0 or one, then add .5 to the number of digits behind it. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Weird. So 0.9=0.5 James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters That is normally called 3 1/2 digits, not 4. Marshall Trem wrote: Hi Jimmy Joe, The PWT does go higher than 2 places plus the decimal. It reads up 199.9. See my post to Ken this morning. Trem - Original Message - From: J J mennj...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Ode Coyote says: snip... The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any higher. ...snip Ken: You actually have a Hanna PWT with a 4 digit display? The attached PWT.JPG from the Hanna website shows only 3 digits. Can't see the decimal point, but it sure looks like only 3 digits. Do you mean that when the uS reading gets above 99.9 another digit shows up on the left and the meter starts reading 100.0 or more, therefore becomes 4 digits? Jimmy Joe _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlooing for Susan
Perhaps I could help? I've never looed for a girl before, but might like to try. Sounds like a new experience, just when I was becoming jaded about the opposite sex! --Russ - Original Message - From: Gaston obouc...@colba.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: CSlooing for Susan It looks like it could be this one: garret...@everett.navy.mil === - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: CSlooing for Susan I am trying to reach Susan Garrett. You had a message awhile ago, and I'd love to talk off line. Please contact me: nancymi...@prodigy.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlooing for Susan
...However, if you meant lewd, then forget it--I gave that up years ago! --Russ - Original Message - From: Gaston obouc...@colba.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: CSlooing for Susan It looks like it could be this one: garret...@everett.navy.mil === - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:29 PM Subject: CSlooing for Susan I am trying to reach Susan Garrett. You had a message awhile ago, and I'd love to talk off line. Please contact me: nancymi...@prodigy.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS gatorade
He is correct. It is salts, primarily sodium and potassium salts if I believe for Gaterade. The reason one needs lots of salt when they are in a very hot environment is not only because you tend to sweat it out. The whole premis of the formulation of gaterade is wrong from what I can determine. It is my understanding that they analyzed sweat and then made gatorade match it in the electrolytes. They assume that what you sweat out needs to be replaced with exactly the same thing. Tests run in the Siberia indicate this is incorrect. According to the book Biological Transmutations (1), one really needs salt, sodium chloride, and lots of it under these conditions. Then they sweat a combination of sodium chloride and potassium chloride, with less sodium and more potassium as you get hotter and hotter. The reason is as simple as it is controversial. Many tests have been run, and every one has supported the fact that when one is in an extremely hot environment, the sodium intake goes up, sodium elimination goes down, and the potassium elimination goes up without any obvious source for the potassium. There is lots of data to support this, and data is suppose to trump theory, which says it is impossible, but the body under these conditions appears to transmute sodium to potassium. This is endothermic, and allows the body to maintain a temperature under 100F even when wet bulb temperature is 105 or higher, which should be an impossibility. Thus under those conditions, adding potassium to the intake is not only not necessary, but can lead to heart problems since the body must not only get rid of that potassiium chloride, but that it makes by transmuting the soduim to potassium as well. Marshall 1. Biological Transmutation, C. L. Kervran, published by Beekman Publishers, originally published in France in 1966, tanslated to english by Crosby Lockwood in 1971, First english publication 1980. Present edition published 1998. rol...@aol.com wrote: There have been several mentions of taking Gatorade with CS to help the CS work better. I understand it is the electrolytes in the Gatorade that is the factor. What exactly are electrolytes? My dad said it is salt. Thanks, Carol
RE: CSlooing for Susan
I will be happy to speak with you about my experiences with CS and the dis-ease MS. I currently brew my own. And my husband, me, my cats and my horses, all enjoy the healthy benefits. Susan Garrett -Original Message- From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 08:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSlooing for Susan I am trying to reach Susan Garrett. You had a message awhile ago, and I'd love to talk off line. Please contact me: nancymi...@prodigy.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for animals- please help
Hi Brooks. Thanks for yet another interesting and informative post. If I may I have a few questions I would like to ask about the protocol for treating Parvo with CS. You said: ...Even when the puppies were so moribund as to be unable to stand or ingest food or water we were successful through the use of gatorade (or Ringer's Solution) and CS enemas-to save practically all of them !- What was the ratio of CS to Ringer's solution/Gatorade? 2- Do you know off hand it the CS used was highly Ionic or was it highly particulate/colloidal? Or was it an approximately even mix of both? 3- What was the ppm of the CS used? 4- For how long were the puppied enemated? By that I mean, were the puppies made to hold the solution until it was al absorbed by their systems? Or was some specified period of time for the solution to be retained found to be most effective.? 5- How many times and/or how often was the treatment repeated? What was the typical duration of the entire CS treatment period? 6- What was the age range of the puppies in your tests? And finally: Was the same solution used for the IV treatment as for the enemation?,, Thanks. LTR
CSCS gatorade
There have been several mentions of taking Gatorade with CS to help the CS work better. I understand it is the electrolytes in the Gatorade that is the factor. What exactly are electrolytes? My dad said it is salt. Thanks, Carol
RE: CSTDS/PWT meters
The forth digit is behind the decimal point. Hanna doesn't advertise or mention that it will read xxx.x [four digits] and only shows or mentions readings within its specified range. I was , uh, mistaken about the actual readout. [eyes, assumptions and paranoia working together as a team] It's actually 199.x not 999.x [Thanks for pointing that out Trem] That makes a pretty big [huge?] difference in Hannas favor no matter what possible accuracy spec issues there may be. ken At 03:23 PM 10/31/02 -0800, you wrote: Ode Coyote says: snip... The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any higher. ...snip Ken: You actually have a Hanna PWT with a 4 digit display? The attached PWT.JPG from the Hanna website shows only 3 digits. Can't see the decimal point, but it sure looks like only 3 digits. Do you mean that when the uS reading gets above 99.9 another digit shows up on the left and the meter starts reading 100.0 or more, therefore becomes 4 digits? Jimmy Joe _ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS gatorade
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hi folk,Marshall: but the body under these conditions appears to transmute sodium to potassium.Leading Edge Research Journal, now replaced by Leading Edge Research Quarterly, published a few years ago two or more hard reasearch studies regarding documented instances of biological transmutation. One was with ordinary chickens; they were able to transmute silica to calcium (Memory...) The same was found in one species of ocean crab. This was conclusivly demonstrated by careful weighing of substance in and substance out. That is correct. Silicon + carbon = calcium. Chickens which are fed a diet devoid of calcium and silicon will lay soft eggs. If silicon (Mica or instance) is added to the diet, then the eggs get hard shells within a day of the silicon supplement. Experiments have shown that chickens can lay eggs with more calcium than in the whole chicken over time if fed mica and no calcium in the diet. Limestone is believed to primarily come from the same transmutation. The theory that limestone came from calcium in the seawater can be proven false since that much calcium will not even dissolve in the sea, there is so much limestone. Same has been shown for certain crustations. Some statues which are composed of silica rock get sick. In those cases a bacteria (actually actinomycetes) are found that appear to be converting the silicon to calcium, thus destroying the statue over time. Likewise soils left fallow will generate missing nutrients if they contain the proper bacteria over time. This includes potassium and calcium. Iguanas are shown to excrete more potassium than they take in when it gets very hot outside, so apparently man is not the only one able to make this transmutation. Two different researchers.There was maybe other studies too. From years ago, I recall vaguly a study that said it was highly probable the the human tonsils could acomplish similar feats. I have only print copies of the LERJ article, and it would probably take me a couple of hours to locate the article. Also lobsters and some other crustations which use copper for their blood instead of iron, can create the copper, even if there is none in their diet. There are many more examples as well such as red hot iron exposed to air putting N2 into a metastable state that if breathed in will convert to CO in the blood stream. Ufortunately many people have been killed by this one, and it is known, but still unexplained. Gold nodules found in silver deposits always have a type of bacteria associated with them as well. Now THAT is real alchemy, silver + 2 sulfur or silver + germanium = gold. Marshall Alchemy is real. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS gatorade He is correct. It is salts, primarily sodium and potassium salts if I believe for Gaterade. The reason one needs lots of salt when they are in a very hot environment is not only because you tend to sweat it out. The whole premis of the formulation of gaterade is wrong from what I can determine. It is my understanding that they analyzed sweat and then made gatorade match it in the electrolytes. They assume that what you sweat out needs to be replaced with exactly the same thing. Tests run in the Siberia indicate this is incorrect. According to the book Biological Transmutations (1), one really needs salt, sodium chloride, and lots of it under these conditions. Then they sweat a combination of sodium chloride and potassium chloride, with less sodium and more potassium as you get hotter and hotter. The reason is as simple as it is controversial. Many tests have been run, and every one has supported the fact that when one is in an extremely hot environment, the sodium intake goes up, sodium elimination goes down, and the potassium elimination goes up without any obvious source for the potassium. There is lots of data to support this, and data is suppose to trump theory, which says it is impossible, but the body under these conditions appears to transmute sodium to potassium. This is endothermic, and allows the body to maintain a temperature under 100F even when wet bulb temperature is 105 or higher, which should be an impossibility. Thus under those conditions, adding potassium to the intake is not only not necessary, but can lead to heart problems since the body must not only get rid of that potassiium chloride, but that it makes by transmuting the soduim to potassium as well. Marshall 1. Biological Transmutation, C. L. Kervran, published by Beekman Publishers, originally published in France in 1966,
Re: CSlooing for Susan
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 07:50:15 -0800, Garrett, Susan L (NSE) garret...@everett.navy.mil wrote: I will be happy to speak with you about my experiences with CS and the dis-ease MS. I currently brew my own. And my husband, me, my cats and my horses, all enjoy the healthy benefits. Susan Garrett Heh, you'll have to bear with me here, but when I read this I had a 40 year flashback to a vaudeville show. Guy wheels a 5 gallon cooler jug of amber liquid on stage and up to a prop telephone. Makes a call, and we overhear: Dear? I just got out of the doctors office. Good news! I'm OK! You're OK! The kids are OK! Granma's OK! Hell, Even the horse is OK!!! Chuck If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS gatorade
Marshall Dudley wrote: There is lots of data to support this, and data is suppose to trump theory, which says it is impossible, but the body under these conditions appears to transmute sodium to potassium. Actually this is not quite right. The transmutation is sodium plus oxygen produces potassium. Na 23 has a delta of -9531.4 keV O 16 has a delta of -4737.03 K 39 has a delta of -33806.6 Thus Sodium 23 plus Oxygen 16 has a nuclear binding energy of 14268.43 Potassium has a nuclear binding energy of 33806.6 The difference is 19538.17 keV or about 20 Mev. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS gatorade/salt build up?
rol...@aol.com wrote: There have been several mentions of taking Gatorade with CS to help the CS work better. I understand it is the electrolytes in the Gatorade that is the factor. What exactly are electrolytes? My dad said it is salt. Thanks, I'd like to add on to your question by asking does the salt in the gatorade build up in your systyem making silversalt deposits? Carol thank you - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
RE: CSCS gatorade
Hi folk, Marshall: but the body under these conditions appears to transmute sodium to potassium. Leading Edge Research Journal, now replaced by Leading Edge Research Quarterly, published a few years ago two or more hard reasearch studies regarding documented instances of biological transmutation. One was with ordinary chickens; they were able to transmute silica to calcium (Memory...) The same was found in one species of ocean crab. This was conclusivly demonstrated by careful weighing of substance in and substance out. Two different researchers. There was maybe other studies too. From years ago, I recall vaguly a study that said it was highly probable the the human tonsils could acomplish similar feats. I have only print copies of the LERJ article, and it would probably take me a couple of hours to locate the article. Alchemy is real. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS gatorade He is correct. It is salts, primarily sodium and potassium salts if I believe for Gaterade. The reason one needs lots of salt when they are in a very hot environment is not only because you tend to sweat it out. The whole premis of the formulation of gaterade is wrong from what I can determine. It is my understanding that they analyzed sweat and then made gatorade match it in the electrolytes. They assume that what you sweat out needs to be replaced with exactly the same thing. Tests run in the Siberia indicate this is incorrect. According to the book Biological Transmutations (1), one really needs salt, sodium chloride, and lots of it under these conditions. Then they sweat a combination of sodium chloride and potassium chloride, with less sodium and more potassium as you get hotter and hotter. The reason is as simple as it is controversial. Many tests have been run, and every one has supported the fact that when one is in an extremely hot environment, the sodium intake goes up, sodium elimination goes down, and the potassium elimination goes up without any obvious source for the potassium. There is lots of data to support this, and data is suppose to trump theory, which says it is impossible, but the body under these conditions appears to transmute sodium to potassium. This is endothermic, and allows the body to maintain a temperature under 100F even when wet bulb temperature is 105 or higher, which should be an impossibility. Thus under those conditions, adding potassium to the intake is not only not necessary, but can lead to heart problems since the body must not only get rid of that potassiium chloride, but that it makes by transmuting the soduim to potassium as well. Marshall 1. Biological Transmutation, C. L. Kervran, published by Beekman Publishers, originally published in France in 1966, tanslated to english by Crosby Lockwood in 1971, First english publication 1980. Present edition published 1998. rol...@aol.com wrote: There have been several mentions of taking Gatorade with CS to help the CS work better. I understand it is the electrolytes in the Gatorade that is the factor. What exactly are electrolytes? My dad said it is salt. Thanks, Carol
Re: CSCS gatorade/salt build up?
rol...@aol.com wrote: There have been several mentions of taking Gatorade with CS to help the CS work better. I understand it is the electrolytes in the Gatorade that is the factor. What exactly are electrolytes? My dad said it is salt. Thanks, I'd like to add on to your question by asking does the salt in the gatorade build up in your systyem making silversalt deposits? Carol My goodness, that's a very good question. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCSCat-Dogs
I went to Yahoo looking... no matches for the above group. Would you please send the URL again? thanks, Kiasi
Re: CSCSCat-Dogs
cscats-d...@yahoogroups.com From: kiasib...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:00:48 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCSCat-Dogs Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:01:31 -0800 I went to Yahoo looking... no matches for the above group. Would you please send the URL again? thanks, Kiasi
Re: CSGatorade Comment...url Problem
The url works fine, you just had a slight error in it. The correct url is http://chemcases.com/gatorade/gatorade10.htm According to that, gatorade mimics the electrolyte in the blood. In that case the information I had earlier that they had analyzed sweat is apparently wrong, and my comments on such would be incorrect also. Marshall Brooks Bradley wrote: I apologizeagain. It seems that the server controlling the web switching will not allow a copy and transmit from other than authorized sources. Therefore, I have a workaround for those still interested in the url. Call up the GOOGLE search engine and type in the words Gatorade Composition in the Search box. When the page comes up click on the first entry, at the top of the page. It should read Gatorade 11 Gatorade Just click on it and you will be connected to the proper web page. My profound apologies for using so much bandwidth in attempting to relay a simple web page. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSReality lives !!
Jack Dayton wrote: Ken said: I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine some idea' of how far off reality is from various stated views of it. [something within a range in an infinite scale] I've got an odd feeling that no one can say anything that's true about anything. [Nothing that is, except, perhaps, that statement.] See what you think of this as a reality based statement: Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time. That is a binary state logic statement. Most of reality is not binary, and is instead shades of grey. For instance everything is not either hot or not hot, since there is not definition of exactly what hot is. There is a full spectrum from cold to hot, and can include very warm, slightly hot, hot, very hot. Thus it is impossible to divide into two groups. Likewise soup is neither water, nor nonWater, instead it is partly water. You get into this a lot with ethics. Many things are almost impossible today to determine if they are ethical or not, and different people will have differing opinions. Thus everything can be A, nonA or partly, slightly or mostly A as well as other proportions. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: CODEX-Alimentarius---send-a-protest-e-mail
From: vita-n...@free--access-to-vitamins.net Dear Natural Health Supporter Did you know that European and International legislation is proposing to: ¨ Ban over 300 natural ingredients from free sale ¨ Restrict the dosage level of 'approved' nutrients to levels that will render them ineffective ¨ Ban herbal remedies for no other reason than that they don't have a 30 year history of use ¨ Ban any statements about the effectiveness of nutrients in dealing with disease ¨ Give governments the right to re-classify safe and effective natural remedies as medicines - at will We have to put a stop to this - here's how. (Please scroll down to the bottom of this mail if you are already informed about these issues - with a few mouseclicks you can save vitamin freedom now!) 2002 has seen many advances in the scientific proof of the effectiveness of natural remedies. This year, not only have independent, unbiased research scientists published papers that attest to the powerful healing properties of these side effect free natural substances, but even the pharma-infested American Medical Association and World Health Organisation have been forced to admit to their health-giving properties. This increased acceptance of natural remedies comes as a direct result of the publication by Dr Rath of the results of his groundbreaking research into the natural treatment of cancer earlier this year and his continuing pioneering work in the field of cardiovascular disease, for which he has been granted the world's first natural therapy patents. On 8th March 2002, following thorough validation, Dr Rath announced his breakthrough in the natural treatment of cancer in the world's largest newspaper, USA Today. Within weeks, the World Health Organisation published a report ( http://www.who.int/hpr/nutrition/ExpertConsultationGE.htm ) that contains the following statement: Nutrition is coming to the fore as a major modifiable determinant for chronic disease, with scientific evidence increasingly supporting the view that alterations in diet have strong effects, both negative and positive, on health throughout life. Most importantly, dietary adjustments can not only influence present health, but determine whether or not an individual will develop diseases such as cancer, cardiovascular disease, and diabetes, much later in life. Throughout this year, many new studies have been published in newspapers and magazines attesting to the efficacy of natural remedies in the treatment of widespread diseases such as cardiovascular disease and cancer. Perhaps the most significant event, however, was the statement by the American Medical Association published on 19th June 2002 ( http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v287n23/abs/jsr20001.html ). After more than 20 years of flat denial and outright opposition, the AMA finally announced that the health of every adult citizen of the United States would benefit from the taking of a daily vitamin supplement. WITHOUT DR RATH'S GROUNDBREAKING WORK IN THE FIELD OF NATURAL HEALTH, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE. However, those of us who exercise our fundamental human right to choose safe, effective and side effect free remedies over toxic and sometimes life-threatening pharmaceutical drugs cannot afford to be complacent. Yes, we have achieved some victories, but the battle continues to rage on many different fronts. The European Commission, under the influence and concerted lobbying of the pharmaceutical 'Business With Disease' is pressing forward its legislative campaign to ban all access to natural remedies. Ignoring over 600 million democratically registered votes in favour of natural therapies this programme consists of: ¨ The Food Supplements Directive that will remove over 300 ingredients from free sale and restrict the dosage level of the 'approved' nutrients to levels that will render them mostly ineffective. ¨ The Traditional Herbal Medicines Directive that will remove safe and effective herbal remedies from free sale in the European Union for no other reason than that they do not have a 30 year history of use here, even if they have been in use successfully in non-EU countries for that length of time or longer. ¨ The Health Claims Regulation that will ban any statements about the effectiveness of nutrients in dealing with disease, except those 'pre-approved' by the European Commission that will be homogenous and carry no real meaning. ¨ Amendments to the Medicines Directive that will give national medicines agencies the right to re-classify safe and effective nutrient remedies as medicines - at will. This right will mean that ANY natural remedy can be removed from sale immediately, even where the remedies are already effectively regulated under other legislation and may have been for years. In other words, medicine law will take precedence in health legislation. Even more serious is the work of the joint UN Food Agriculture Organisation/World Health Organisation's Codex Alimentarius
Re: CSCSCat-Dogs
Hi Kaisi. The URL you need for the CSCats-Dogs list is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CSCats-Dogs/ I hope to see you there. Langsley T Russell List Moderator CSCats and Dogs cscats-dogs-ow...@yahoogroups.com bullo...@nitline.com http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/ On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 15:00, kiasib...@aol.com wrote: I went to Yahoo looking... no matches for the above group. Would you please send the URL again? thanks, Kiasi
CSGatorade Comment
I have no desire to become engaged in discourse on the advantages/disadvantages of Gatorade..or its exact efficiencies versus other modalities. For the benefit of those lay-person types on the list I would refer you to a a simple, but relatively accurate general commentary on Gatorade. The primary value of Gatorade, and most other isotonic solutions, may be found in the fact that it IS isotonic and, therefore, most effective in enabling efficient fluid transfer through semi-permeable membranes. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley Title: 404 Not Found Not Found The requested URL /gatorade/10.htm was not found on this server.
CSGatorade Comment....url correction
I have no desire to become engaged in discourse on the advantages/disadvantages of Gatorade..or its exact efficiencies versus other modalities. For the benefit of those lay-person types on the list I would refer you to a a simple, but relatively accurate general commentary on Gatorade. Http://chemcases.com/gatorade.gatorade10.htm The primary value of Gatorade, and most other isotonic solutions, may be found in the fact that it IS isotonic and, therefore, most effective in enabling efficient fluid transfer through semi-permeable membranes. Sincerely, Brooks BradleyTitle: 404 Not Found Not Found The requested URL /gatorade/10.htm was not found on this server.
Re: CSGatorade Comment/in plain english
Brooks Bradley brooks.brad...@worldnet.att.net wrote: I have no desire to become engaged in discourse on the advantages/disadvantages of Gatorade..or its exact efficiencies versus other modalities. For the benefit of those lay-person types on the list I would refer you to a a simple, but relatively accurate general commentary on Gatorade. The primary value of Gatorade, and most other isotonic solutions, may be found in the fact that it IS isotonic and, therefore, most effective in enabling efficient fluid transfer through semi-permeable membranes. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley What does isotonic and semi-permeable mean (seriously)! Not FoundThe requested URL /gatorade/10.htm was not found on this server. thank you - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
CSGatorade Comment...url Problem
I apologizeagain. It seems that the server controlling the web switching will not allow a copy and transmit from other than authorized sources. Therefore, I have a workaround for those still interested in the url. Call up the GOOGLE search engine and type in the words Gatorade Composition in the Search box. When the page comes up click on the first entry, at the top of the page. It should read Gatorade 11 Gatorade Just click on it and you will be connected to the proper web page. My profound apologies for using so much bandwidth in attempting to relay a simple web page. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSReality lives !!
Ken said: I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine some idea' of how far off reality is from various stated views of it. [something within a range in an infinite scale] I've got an odd feeling that no one can say anything that's true about anything. [Nothing that is, except, perhaps, that statement.] See what you think of this as a reality based statement: Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGatorade Comment...url Problem Final Attempt
Change Gatorade Composition to Gatorade Formulation and when entries appear click on the 3rd entry titled Gatorade Formulation 10...I believe this will get itif your patience has not, already, been exhausted. I am getting too old for these electronic labyrinths. I apologizeagain. It seems that the server controlling the web switching will not allow a copy and transmit from other than authorized sources. Therefore, I have a workaround for those still interested in the url. Call up the GOOGLE search engine and type in the words Gatorade Composition in the Search box. When the page comes up click on the first entry, at the top of the page. It should read Gatorade 11 Gatorade Just click on it and you will be connected to the proper web page. My profound apologies for using so much bandwidth in attempting to relay a simple web page. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade Comment...url Problem
Marshall, Things are even Worse than I had imagined. You have now made all of my additional blathering irrelevant...and reinforced my wife's conclusion that I Need a constant Keeper. Best Regards, Brooks. Marshall Dudley wrote: The url works fine, you just had a slight error in it. The correct url is http://chemcases.com/gatorade/gatorade10.htm According to that, gatorade mimics the electrolyte in the blood. In that case the information I had earlier that they had analyzed sweat is apparently wrong, and my comments on such would be incorrect also. Marshall Brooks Bradley wrote: I apologizeagain. It seems that the server controlling the web switching will not allow a copy and transmit from other than authorized sources. Therefore, I have a workaround for those still interested in the url. Call up the GOOGLE search engine and type in the words Gatorade Composition in the Search box. When the page comes up click on the first entry, at the top of the page. It should read Gatorade 11 Gatorade Just click on it and you will be connected to the proper web page. My profound apologies for using so much bandwidth in attempting to relay a simple web page. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade Comment...url Problem
Marshall, Things are even Worse than I had imagined. You have now made all of my additional blathering irrelevant...and reinforced my wife's conclusion that I Need a constant Keeper. Best Regards, Brooks. Marshall Dudley wrote: The url works fine, you just had a slight error in it. The correct url is http://chemcases.com/gatorade/gatorade10.htm According to that, gatorade mimics the electrolyte in the blood. In that case the information I had earlier that they had analyzed sweat is apparently wrong, and my comments on such would be incorrect also. Marshall Brooks Bradley wrote: I apologizeagain. It seems that the server controlling the web switching will not allow a copy and transmit from other than authorized sources. Therefore, I have a workaround for those still interested in the url. Call up the GOOGLE search engine and type in the words Gatorade Composition in the Search box. When the page comes up click on the first entry, at the top of the page. It should read Gatorade 11 Gatorade Just click on it and you will be connected to the proper web page. My profound apologies for using so much bandwidth in attempting to relay a simple web page. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #825
I went to Yahoo looking... no matches for the above group. Would you please send the URL again? thanks, Kiasi http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CSCats-Dogs/ jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade Comment/in plain english
What does isotonic and semi-permeable mean (seriously)! www.dictionary.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmsm-msm.com????
Chuck writes: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Subject: Re: CSmsm-msm.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:18:50 -0800 Well, MSM is always available at feed stores like Agway. They give it to horses for arthritis. My last order from the 'net was www.beyond-a-century.com with reasonable prices. I don't beieve Ester-C is worth a premium over ascorbic acid as that's what I use. Well gee Chuck, 2 in 1 posting. Being new to MSM other than in capsule form, I spent some time trying to see what I could learn about MSM when all I did was pop a half dozen pills a day for sore joints. Which reminds me of a health tip I once heard, it went something like this. Mothers,do you get stiff in the joints? Well stay out of those joints !! :-) What I learned about MSM is that what can be bought in feed stores is seldom USP grade so a little further looking came up with a version that I felt safe in taking. As for Ester-C, what I learned recently convinced me to spend the extra money -- there really is a difference. This I quickly found with Google's help: Ester-C® is patented, non-acidic vitamin C and its metabolites. It does not cause the stomach and digestive problems of ordinary vitamin C. Ester-C is different from ordinary or buffered vitamin C because: It is processed in purified water instead of solvents which makes it a purer form of vitamin C; It contains calcium threonate, which makes this form of vitamin C four times more bio available than other forms of vitamin C. ADVANTAGES OF ESTER-C® *Several hours after taking Ester-C, the vitamin C concentration in the blood is twice as high as it would be after taking buffered or regular vitamin-C; *The loss of vitamin C via urine after taking Ester C is six times lower than after taking ordinary vitamin C; *Ester-C is the only form of vitamin C that does not cause digestive problems, not even when using large amounts; *Ester-C is the only form of vitamin C that does not affect tooth enamel. Ordinary vitamin C, especially the popular chewable form is very bad for teeth and should be strongly discouraged. In summary, in comparison with ordinary vitamin C, Ester-C is much better taken up by the body, stays in the body longer, and is used more efficiently by cells and connective tissues. Furthermore it does not cause the digestive problems of traditional vitamin C and it does not affect tooth enamel. Also you might want to read about testing that has been done see: http://www.nutrimart.com/ester-c.htm#top Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSReality lives !!
Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time. Jack steam, water, ice... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSReality lives !!
Involving time is the problem James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSReality lives !! Ken said: I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine some idea' of how far off reality is from various stated views of it. [something within a range in an infinite scale] I've got an odd feeling that no one can say anything that's true about anything. [Nothing that is, except, perhaps, that statement.] See what you think of this as a reality based statement: Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Yes, once the invader is stopped, your body can do wonderful things to rebound. If you are still sick with Lupus, for months and months of waxing and waining symptoms after you eliminate a possibile cause. Then the cause is still there. If the toxin and or substance is removed from the body, your body will heal. Unless there is some permanant damage. If CS kills the pathogen, and you detox from the toxins the bug left behind, you can 'cure' yourself of a of Lupus. My sister got a Lupus like disease from taking a stop smoking drug. She got worse till she put two and two together and she stopped taking it. (To bad her stupid doctor did not bring this up as a possibility). It took about two weeks for her to get back to a tolerable state. And about another two weeks to fully recover after she stopped taking the drug. Before that, she was in bad shape when she was on the drug. Now she is back to smoking, and healthy. ;) I never heard of any well researched method of 'resetting' your immune system. That does not sound like something that's a good idea. If anything, you want to boost it. Cause if 'fighting' something. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? f.capezzuto wrote: Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload.- Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease.- Reactions to drugs.- Genetic metabolic disorder.- Reaction to a chemical, like DDT or a pesticide.- Vaccine reaction. Even a food allergy to bread can cause Lupus like symptoms. Diagnoses usually happens after they find a butterfly rash and elevated ANA, and SED rate. Now, with CS, to be honest. It won't work for all cases for Lupus for a cure. Like If you have a bread allergy, or a reaction to a drug. You can take CS till the cows come home, and it won't do you much good as far as a cure. It may help with opportunistic infections, since people that have Lupus, usually have lowered immune systems. Now, most cases of Lupus are not caused by genetics. Most cases of Lupus are caused by environmental factors. And most of the environmental factors that I have found that can cause Lupus, are mostly due to infections like Lyme, HIV, Hep C, microplasma and stealth viruses. If that case of Lupus, is cause by a pathogen, then CS should be able to kill off the invador is administered properly. I have heard of HIV cases being put into remission from IV CS. So yes, depending on the cause, a percentage of Lupus victoms can be cured. It is my understanding that lupus is an autoimmune response to assaults as you list above. Thus one can stop the assault, and the lupus may stop advancing, but as long as the immune system is attacking ones own tissue, the CS will be of limited value. I wonder if CMO would help reset the immune system for lupus. That is why I had said earlier that CS might be a great preventative, but not necessarily an effective cure. Marshall
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
- Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:06 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Frank, I would not call the use of CS as a Cure, but rather a control of Lupus. In fact, IMHO, this statement can be applied to a number of autoimmune conditions. There is a school of thought that MS, Lupus, Sarcoidosis, R. Arthritis and a few others are primarily caused, not by our immune systems going crazy, but by the immune system's attempt to eliminate a virus or pathogen deep in the tissues of the organ being attacked. In these cases, CS will take care of the virus/pathogen immediately present, and if exposure to these substances never happens again, then in time the damage, if not too severe can be repaired, and subscequently reveresed. Well I have heard some rags to riches stories about people having a 'pathogen' of some sort, getting treatment (to kill the infection) and getting cured of the syndrome. I have talked to people online who were misdiagnosed with MS (to later find out that they have Lyme.) self treat with CS, and they become cured, since they killed the spirochete with the CS. So without addressing the Lupus with the standard treatment of NSAIDs, you effectivily cure the Lupus by getting to the root of the problem. Not 'controlling it'. Again, I did not state that CS is a cure for all cases of Lupus. It depends on what is causing the Lupus. IMHO, this ties in completely with the diet-based cures theory, as it appears that in many cases the virus/pathogen cannot be identified, and that is because there is NONE! Well I would not say that. Just cause they can't find the pathogen, that does not mean it's not there. For instance, the standard HIV test does not pick up the pathogen till 6 months after one is infected. And the Lyme Disease Western Blot was ridiculously inaccurate, till they recently invented a culture that works. And when they discover more and more disease causing pathogens, and new ways to detect them. Simply stating that there is NONE is a blanket statement. I do agree. Diet can totally make the difference in how bad the pathogen can affect you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGatorade Comment/in plain english
From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:57:05 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGatorade Comment/in plain english Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:26:46 -0800 What does isotonic and semi-permeable mean (seriously)! www.dictionary.com *** You beat me to it.:-) Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmsm-msm.com????
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:02:50 -0800, Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com wrote: Chuck writes: From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Subject: Re: CSmsm-msm.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:18:50 -0800 Well, MSM is always available at feed stores like Agway. They give it to horses for arthritis. My last order from the 'net was www.beyond-a-century.com with reasonable prices. I don't beieve Ester-C is worth a premium over ascorbic acid as that's what I use. Well gee Chuck, 2 in 1 posting. Huh? Being new to MSM other than in capsule form, I spent some time trying to see what I could learn about MSM when all I did was pop a half dozen pills a day for sore joints. What I learned about MSM is that what can be bought in feed stores is seldom USP grade so a little further looking came up with a version that I felt safe in taking. My opinion backed by research of others, not mine, is that veterinarian supplements and pharmacutical supplements are labeled from the same batches in the same manufacturing plant. Works for me. As for Ester-C, what I learned recently convinced me to spend the extra money -- there really is a difference. If you're convinced, so be it. Peace of mind is worth a premium. This I quickly found with Google's help: Ester-C® is patented, non-acidic vitamin C and its metabolites. It does not cause the stomach and digestive problems of ordinary vitamin C. Ester-C is different from ordinary or buffered vitamin C because: It is processed in purified water instead of solvents which makes it a purer form of vitamin C; It contains calcium threonate, which makes this form of vitamin C four times more bio available than other forms of vitamin C. I've been using ascorbic acid since Linus Pauling wrote The Cure for the Common Cold. That was approximately 42 years ago. ADVANTAGES OF ESTER-C® *Several hours after taking Ester-C, the vitamin C concentration in the blood is twice as high as it would be after taking buffered or regular vitamin-C; *The loss of vitamin C via urine after taking Ester C is six times lower than after taking ordinary vitamin C; *Ester-C is the only form of vitamin C that does not cause digestive problems, not even when using large amounts; The only effect I've EVER noticed was loose bowels the day after the FIRST high dose after a layoff. Subsequent doses have no bowel tolerence effect. Essentially, if you take it daily, no problems. *Ester-C is the only form of vitamin C that does not affect tooth enamel. Ordinary vitamin C, especially the popular chewable form is very bad for teeth and should be strongly discouraged. Never experienced! Who in hell would CHEW his C? In summary, in comparison with ordinary vitamin C, Ester-C is much better taken up by the body, stays in the body longer, and is used more efficiently by cells and connective tissues. Furthermore it does not cause the digestive problems of traditional vitamin C and it does not affect tooth enamel. Also you might want to read about testing that has been done see: http://www.nutrimart.com/ester-c.htm#top You can get 300 gr of ascorbic at beyond a century for less than than 4.5 oz (130 gr) of ester c at your site above. The supposed benefits wouldn't convince me to change. You go ahead. Chuck Why do psychics have to ask you for your name? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails/reply
Paul Ladendorf paulldn...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul You wanted to turn blue taking that amount or either you want to promote fear on this site. - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now thank you - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Paul, Are you battling a particular illness as reason to take 16-32 oz per day? That seems like a lot of CS. When I joined the list I felt reassured that some people had been taking 8oz per day for long periods safely. I'm not afraid of the CS I make at home but I have a healthy respect for it. I don't think I've ever taken more than 4oz in one day under any circumstances. Did WaterOz give a recommended dosage? Laura In a message dated 11/1/02 10:10:29 PM Central Standard Time, paulldn...@yahoo.com writes: Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16- 32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue- purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Lupus is an auto immune disease.I have a hard time believing all these millions of perfectly formed bodies are attacking themselves for no reason This does not make any sense at all. It is my understanding the mycoplasma that is hidden in your own cells is the cause of the attack on yourself. If you kill the mycoplasma with the CS, you are in effect stopping the disease. I'm convinced most auto immune disease are caused by the mycoplasma hiding in your own cells. So you see, Your body is not attacking itself, it is attacking the mycoplasma. I have had two people who had Lupus drink my CS. After several months, they have no longer had any attacks. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? f.capezzuto wrote: Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload.- Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease.- Reactions to drugs.- Genetic metabolic disorder.- Reaction to a chemical, like DDT or a pesticide.- Vaccine reaction. Even a food allergy to bread can cause Lupus like symptoms. Diagnoses usually happens after they find a butterfly rash and elevated ANA, and SED rate. Now, with CS, to be honest. It won't work for all cases for Lupus for a cure. Like If you have a bread allergy, or a reaction to a drug. You can take CS till the cows come home, and it won't do you much good as far as a cure. It may help with opportunistic infections, since people that have Lupus, usually have lowered immune systems. Now, most cases of Lupus are not caused by genetics. Most cases of Lupus are caused by environmental factors. And most of the environmental factors that I have found that can cause Lupus, are mostly due to infections like Lyme, HIV, Hep C, microplasma and stealth viruses. If that case of Lupus, is cause by a pathogen, then CS should be able to kill off the invador is administered properly. I have heard of HIV cases being put into remission from IV CS. So yes, depending on the cause, a percentage of Lupus victoms can be cured. It is my understanding that lupus is an autoimmune response to assaults as you list above. Thus one can stop the assault, and the lupus may stop advancing, but as long as the immune system is attacking ones own tissue, the CS will be of limited value. I wonder if CMO would help reset the immune system for lupus. That is why I had said earlier that CS might be a great preventative, but not necessarily an effective cure. Marshall
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
I have also noticed a bluish/purple tint on my fingernail moons. In my case they have come and gone over the years. They were there before I ever heard of CS, but they are currently not blue, even though I drink CS every day and have done so for about a year now. I don't know what they indicate (if anything). So I just write it off as another non-essential mystery. I can't comment about your CS generator since I don't know anything about it, but I use the Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with it. Be at Peace Al - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: Silver List Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
RE: CSReality lives !!
Hi; 'Not only'. On the quantum level, time is reversible; instantaneous does not depend on particulate time, such as the Bhuddist 'Kalapa' the smallest unit of time deemed possible, and avoiding the sillophophical stuff that just begs to be thrashed on the question of time, . . . . Existence and becoming (and un-becoming) may or may not be 'binary'. In Mathematics the open interval, f'rinstance, is a little jolt; the interval [1 - 2), open at the upper end, never reaches two; there's always an infinitude of points between however-close-you-are to two, and two itself. This is similar to the race between Achilles and the Tortoise in one sense, but avoids the issue of time. Also, If something is not complete how can it exist? On the other hand, how can it not exist, if you can tell it is not complete? And for a more binary disclaimer, It's only fair I confess; I always lie: always! Phast Phred (aka: A) At 06:07 PM 11/1/02 -0700, you wrote: Involving time is the problem James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] See what you think of this as a reality based statement: Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time. Jack Needs Work --
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...and silver-coated underwear for people suffering from dermatitis... http://www.atlantisrising.com/ jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Very good point. Dr. Brown in 1988 (and before) was putting a high percentage of cases of JRA in remission with ABX treatment. His theory was that most cases of JRA was caused by mycoplasma and other infections like Lyme and co-infections such as Babs and HGE. He was even on Good Morning America. Just read this on the Arthritis Foundation's webpage. http://www.arthritis.org/conditions/diseasecenter/spondyloarthropathy/treatm ent.asp No mention of a possible cause. And if you see, the treatment is only supportive. No mention of a cure. Or even options. It's pretty pathetic how these organizations don't tell all of the facts when they are out to make a buck. They don't base there treatment on science at all. Considering the anti-inflammitory drugs cause more damage to you in the long run. Just visit the Roadback foundations website (they are one of the few good organizations), they will show all of the people who were put into remission from RA with long term ABX treatment. Dr Brown stated a 90 percent success rate for RA sufferers. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Lupus is an auto immune disease.I have a hard time believing all these millions of perfectly formed bodies are attacking themselves for no reason This does not make any sense at all. It is my understanding the mycoplasma that is hidden in your own cells is the cause of the attack on yourself. If you kill the mycoplasma with the CS, you are in effect stopping the disease. I'm convinced most auto immune disease are caused by the mycoplasma hiding in your own cells. So you see, Your body is not attacking itself, it is attacking the mycoplasma. I have had two people who had Lupus drink my CS. After several months, they have no longer had any attacks. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? f.capezzuto wrote: Depending on the cause of the Lupus. Lupus itself is not a single disease. It's not a disease that has one cause. Some of the things that can cause Lupus are: - Iron Overload.- Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease.- Reactions to drugs.- Genetic metabolic disorder.- Reaction to a chemical, like DDT or a pesticide.- Vaccine reaction. Even a food allergy to bread can cause Lupus like symptoms. Diagnoses usually happens after they find a butterfly rash and elevated ANA, and SED rate. Now, with CS, to be honest. It won't work for all cases for Lupus for a cure. Like If you have a bread allergy, or a reaction to a drug. You can take CS till the cows come home, and it won't do you much good as far as a cure. It may help with opportunistic infections, since people that have Lupus, usually have lowered immune systems. Now, most cases of Lupus are not caused by genetics. Most cases of Lupus are caused by environmental factors. And most of the environmental factors that I have found that can cause Lupus, are mostly due to infections like Lyme, HIV, Hep C, microplasma and stealth viruses. If that case of Lupus, is cause by a pathogen, then CS should be able to kill off the invador is administered properly. I have heard of HIV cases being put into remission from IV CS. So yes, depending on the cause, a percentage of Lupus victoms can be cured. It is my understanding that lupus is an autoimmune response to assaults as you list above. Thus one can stop the assault, and the lupus may stop advancing, but as long as the immune system is attacking ones own tissue, the CS will be of limited value. I wonder if CMO would help reset the immune system for lupus. That is why I had said earlier that CS might be a great preventative, but not necessarily an effective cure. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
f.capezzuto writes: My sister got a Lupus like disease from taking a stop smoking drug. She got worse till...she stopped taking it...two weeks to fully recover... Now she is back to smoking, and healthy. ;) Engaging Atlantis Rising Magazine (11-12/02 Issue #36; article not yet online) explaining why cigarette smoke is radioactive, and possibly the patches and gums (depending on their ingredient sources): http://www.atlantisrising.com/ Recommendation/conclusion for smokers is to quit, or, ensure your tobacco is grown with appropriate fertilizers. (Pot farmers take note.) The fertilizers used on the tobacco fields are the culprit (same article reference): Lives could be saved by simply changing fertilizers, they say... Almost 95% of the Lung Cancer caused by Cigarettes are allegedly the result of using calcium phosphate fertilizer to grow the Tobacco... http://www.acsa.net/HealthAlert/lungcancer.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
