Re: CSReality lives !!
How about Everything is how you experience it..including time. and anything experienced to it's fullest becomes the nothing it is. There is no proof that anything at all exists. The experience of objective reality is an image formed from infomation supplied by the senses and arranged by running a program through the image of a processor. But the senses don't prove that there's anything 'out there' to sense or even that there IS an 'out there'. Reality, then, well may be a self validating feedback loop of fantasy...and it has holes... things that sometimes don't add up...don't fit the program. [phenomenon..windows in the walls of deniability we construct to back up what we believe is true by hiding every thing else from ourselves.] The only thing that can be proven is the experience, by the experience. But that proves nothing about the qualities of what's IN the experience. We really have little idea about what, when and where we are. [or, the idea is ALL we have] All this could well be a simple matter of misidentification...us fooling ourselves into a grand adventure. I for one, know how easy it is to fool myself. That certainly doesn't mean I won't. [As recently illustrated] I am the easiest person for me to lie to in the entire omniverse of my own perceptions. Believing is seeing. Do YOU really exist? Or are both you and I a frigment of my enfragmentation? The only thing I know about you, or me, is what I experience...and not what you experience. Will my experience of you match yours of you? [Just enough for deniability] Perhaps, then, you created your version of me in your mind for you to experience. [Wherever or whatever THAT might be..if there even ARE wheres and whats at any given time when time itself is so subjective of an experience] Time. We slice it into objective segments of duration by imposing clock on it. Does that mean it's sliced or does it just look that way to the one wielding the knife? [Time's fun when you're having flies] Infinite order includes infinite chaos. They are the same. The only experential difference is in how much order can be experienced within the limitations of the program and hardware? that processes it. A virtual computer in a virtual reality running a program 'made up' of limitations of ideas with senses designed to validate the limitations? Reality. The closer you look at it, the more it dissappears. The brain is in the mind. It doesn't think, it selectively filters and processes thought. It denies a lot more than it admits. If it admitted everything, it would have to deny its own existance. The eyes are designed to 'not' see a lot more than they do. They focus on so little and we call that clear sight. [when, in fact, it's not the eyes that do the seeing at all...the brain does... and the vision is but a pattern that brain made up using information from the eyes as a basis for the idea of what things should look like according to what it learned of the general conceptual program of what things look like as learned as a baby. That is, a babies eyes focus just fine, it's identification of patterns what are gradually learned...meanings imposed on the program.] Anything missing from the expected learned pattern gets seemlessly filled in. Are you ever aware of the great big blind spot right in the middle of everything you look at? NO But you can prove it's there by upsetting expectation. If someone who has been blind all his life suddenly gains sight, he cannot identify what he sees until he touches it so he can compare the vision to the patterns of meaning he learned. He cannot even tell the difference between a ball and a cube until he touches it. [television could be a real problem] What if you grew up in a different culture that has different ideas about what things mean? Can you even see something that has no learned meaning? UFO experiencers would indicate not. If a UFO landed right in front of ten people, only two would see it. Another two might find it if they bumped into it. Four would walk unconciously around it or stay frozen in place and neither see or bump into it and the remaining two would have nightmares. And those that experienced anything at all won't agree on what that experience was unless they had very similar belief systems like family members or close friends or had communicated during the experience and reached an agreement then. The specialist learns more and more about less and less till he knows everything about nothing. The generalist learns less and less about more and more till he knows nothing about everything. Ken Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time.Jack [depends on the persons aquired patterns of opinion and how hard they defend them at any given time. Sometimes reality gets blown out of it's own water. Then everything changes or gets denied. Ever had a car run 'through' you and not leave a scratch? I and two friends got beaten by a gang of thugs with tire irons once and suffered no
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Be sure your fingers are warm when you look at them? My whole finger gets blue when it's cold and not even all that cold. Ken At 11:48 PM 11/1/02 -0600, you wrote: I have also noticed a bluish/purple tint on my fingernail moons. In my case they have come and gone over the years. They were there before I ever heard of CS, but they are currently not blue, even though I drink CS every day and have done so for about a year now. I don't know what they indicate (if anything). So I just write it off as another non-essential mystery. I can't comment about your CS generator since I don't know anything about it, but I use the Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with it. Be at Peace Al - Original Message - From: mailto:paulldn...@yahoo.com>Paul Ladendorf To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>Silver List Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: CS>Uh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? http://rd.yahoo.com/careers/mailsig/*http://www.hotjobs.com >HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
I concur! I ordered some gold wire on Thursday, and it is here midday Monday, without express shipping charges! The prices are also great. Jannette - Original Message - From: Chip Hoyle cho...@hampsuites.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: 99.99% Try ccsilver.com-they stock . silver in 12 ga at $4.95 per foot. They ship quickly too. Chip --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSReality lives !!
For a good article on what comprises reality at the quantum level, see the latest Scientific American. Marshall Jack Dayton wrote: From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com Subject: RE: CSReality lives !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:13:38 -0800 Hi; 'Not only'. On the quantum level, time is reversible; instantaneous does not depend on particulate time, such as the Bhuddist 'Kalapa' the smallest unit of time deemed possible, and avoiding the sillophophical stuff that just begs to be thrashed on the question of time, . . . . Existence and becoming (and un-becoming) may or may not be 'binary'. In Mathematics the open interval, f'rinstance, is a little jolt; the interval [1 - 2), open at the upper end, never reaches two; there's always an infinitude of points between however-close-you-are to two, and two itself. This is similar to the race between Achilles and the Tortoise in one sense, but avoids the issue of time. Also, If something is not complete how can it exist? On the other hand, how can it not exist, if you can tell it is not complete? And for a more binary disclaimer, It's only fair I confess; I always lie: always! Phast Phred (aka: A) *** Say WHAT? Jack
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
For a photon of light to cause any action, it must be absorbed. Clear CS does not absorb any light in the visible spectrum at all, so if any change were to be expected it would HAVE to come from interaction with ultraviolet. Now if you have yellow colored CS then the light absorbed is in the violet and ultraviolet spectrum, so the longest wavelength that could affect it wold be violet. It is very well known how silver compounds at least react with light. This is the basis of almost all photography. The longer the wavelength of the light, the larger the particle has to be normally. Thus film use to not be sensitive to red or infrared light at all. However more modern films have other substances in the emulsion which absorb the light, then pass the energy on to the silver to expose it. This allows modern fine grained films to be sensitive to all colors, and even infrared. Thus it is apparent that for silver activation a resonance is not required, only a minimum quanta of energy. Marshall Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Uh-oh, I dunno. Generally speaking, some effects of light energy are quantized; i.e., they come in whole-number sizes and it takes just the right amount or size packet of energy to cause a light mediated change in some chemical reaction: not too much, not too little. I don't know where uv light fits in relation to the way silver particles react, but suspect that the major factor is not the light but the silver compound. Take care, Malcolm At 01:59 AM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: Not trying to get far afield, but does one using Water Oz also stand a great greater chance of Argyria when exposed to ultraviolet light or tanning salon light? - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Water Oz Is a form of silver, the msp or mild silver protein sort - supposedly, I think. . . . . . Some messages on the list have suggested that it really contains silver salts such as the nitrate. It has been implicated by some in several reports of Argyria. One aspect of the Argyria thing is that the silver particles are 'developed' by strong sunshine, turning black just like in a photo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSReality lives !!
The macroscopic reality of 0 - 1 bits is built from the quantum qbit. The qbit can have a value of 0 or 1 or any of an infinite range of values between zero and one. Actually if you view a qbit as a sphere, with the north pole being 1 and the south pole being 0, the qbit can have a value anywhere on the surface, expressed in terms of the longitude and latitude. It isn't simple! Scientific American November 2002, Page 67, Rules for a Complete Quantum World. Marshall Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Hi Jack; On the question of time - introduced by you and highlighted by JO-H - and defining reality - it ain't the only problem. On the question of the binary nature of reality - it may or may not be particulate so to speak, but may be a continuum, thus not either A or nonA but conditions of becoming. Zeno's paradox deals with this. I don't know if this adds to your confusion or reduces it, but what the hey?! Malcolm I was looking for a job when I got this one At 03:34 PM 11/3/02 -0800, you wrote: From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com Subject: RE: CSReality lives !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:13:38 -0800 Hi; 'Not only'. On the quantum level, time is reversible; instantaneous does not depend on particulate time, such as the Bhuddist 'Kalapa' the smallest unit of time deemed possible, and avoiding the sillophophical stuff that just begs to be thrashed on the question of time, . . . . Existence and becoming (and un-becoming) may or may not be 'binary'. In Mathematics the open interval, f'rinstance, is a little jolt; the interval [1 - 2), open at the upper end, never reaches two; there's always an infinitude of points between however-close-you-are to two, and two itself. This is similar to the race between Achilles and the Tortoise in one sense, but avoids the issue of time. Also, If something is not complete how can it exist? On the other hand, how can it not exist, if you can tell it is not complete? And for a more binary disclaimer, It's only fair I confess; I always lie: always! Phast Phred (aka: A) *** Say WHAT? Jack
Re: CSReality lives !!
Here's the engineer/mechanic solution to the problem!! The glass is too big and needs to be re-designed. Cut it at the water line, discard the top portion, and enjoy the glass of water (or whatever)! Reality, R. I. P., and let's get back on topic. Regards, Al... - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: Re: CSReality lives !! How about Everything is how you experience it..including time. and anything experienced to it's fullest becomes the nothing it is. There is no proof that anything at all exists. The experience of objective reality is an image formed from infomation supplied by the senses and arranged by running a program through the image of a processor. But the senses don't prove that there's anything 'out there' to sense or even that there IS an 'out there'. Reality, then, well may be a self validating feedback loop of fantasy...and it has holes... things that sometimes don't add up...don't fit the program. [phenomenon..windows in the walls of deniability we construct to back up what we believe is true by hiding every thing else from ourselves.] The only thing that can be proven is the experience, by the experience. But that proves nothing about the qualities of what's IN the experience. We really have little idea about what, when and where we are. [or, the idea is ALL we have] All this could well be a simple matter of misidentification...us fooling ourselves into a grand adventure. I for one, know how easy it is to fool myself. That certainly doesn't mean I won't. [As recently illustrated] I am the easiest person for me to lie to in the entire omniverse of my own perceptions. Believing is seeing. Do YOU really exist? Or are both you and I a frigment of my enfragmentation? The only thing I know about you, or me, is what I experience...and not what you experience. Will my experience of you match yours of you? [Just enough for deniability] Perhaps, then, you created your version of me in your mind for you to experience. [Wherever or whatever THAT might be..if there even ARE wheres and whats at any given time when time itself is so subjective of an experience] Time. We slice it into objective segments of duration by imposing clock on it. Does that mean it's sliced or does it just look that way to the one wielding the knife? [Time's fun when you're having flies] Infinite order includes infinite chaos. They are the same. The only experential difference is in how much order can be experienced within the limitations of the program and hardware? that processes it. A virtual computer in a virtual reality running a program 'made up' of limitations of ideas with senses designed to validate the limitations? Reality. The closer you look at it, the more it dissappears. The brain is in the mind. It doesn't think, it selectively filters and processes thought. It denies a lot more than it admits. If it admitted everything, it would have to deny its own existance. The eyes are designed to 'not' see a lot more than they do. They focus on so little and we call that clear sight. [when, in fact, it's not the eyes that do the seeing at all...the brain does... and the vision is but a pattern that brain made up using information from the eyes as a basis for the idea of what things should look like according to what it learned of the general conceptual program of what things look like as learned as a baby. That is, a babies eyes focus just fine, it's identification of patterns what are gradually learned...meanings imposed on the program.] Anything missing from the expected learned pattern gets seemlessly filled in. Are you ever aware of the great big blind spot right in the middle of everything you look at? NO But you can prove it's there by upsetting expectation. If someone who has been blind all his life suddenly gains sight, he cannot identify what he sees until he touches it so he can compare the vision to the patterns of meaning he learned. He cannot even tell the difference between a ball and a cube until he touches it. [television could be a real problem] What if you grew up in a different culture that has different ideas about what things mean? Can you even see something that has no learned meaning? UFO experiencers would indicate not. If a UFO landed right in front of ten people, only two would see it. Another two might find it if they bumped into it. Four would walk unconciously around it or stay frozen in place and neither see or bump into it and the remaining two would have nightmares. And those that experienced anything at all won't agree on what that experience was unless they had very similar belief systems like family members or close friends or had communicated during the experience and reached an agreement then. The specialist learns more and more about less and less till he knows everything about
Re: CSaplolgy
Mike. There is a few minute delay from when a message gets (accidently) sent to the list and it gets forwarded. Is there any way to kill it from the cache during that time? Marshall MARIANO DELISE wrote: To my friends on the silver list,Very late last night I accidently sent an email to thelist that I intended to send to my new blond niece, Sue (silver coes just before Sue in my address book). It was intended to tease her about her new hair do. I am extemely sorry for this error.I consider you all my very good friends. I have learned so much from you all, and I would never want to offend any one of you. If I have offended any one of you I am very, very sorry. Please accept my apology. I am so angry at myself, and I have beat myself up all night.Again, I consider you my CS family. Please forgive me.Nancy
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
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Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Ode Coyote wrote: How does smoke attract radon that's not already in the air? And if it's already in the air, how does one not breath it anyway? There is radon in the air. Unfortunately in East Tennessee where I live, there can be quite a bit of it from the traces of radium in the underling shale rock. It is attracted to and attaches to smoke particles. When you breathe in radon gas, it is in the lungs about 1 second before being breathed out. The probability of it decaying during that second it pretty remote, so most of it does no harm. When attached to a smoke particle, the particle usually gets lodged in the lung or sinus mucus. The body eventually expells it as long as you have not smoked so much this mechanism no longer works. If the particle stays in the lungs for 4 hours, then the exposure to radiation from the radon (and the production of the solid daughter products such as polonium) will increase by the ratio of a second to 4*60*60 seconds, or about 14,400 to one. Some plants do assimilate heavy metals as they grow and tobacco is one, or so I hear. Radon and other radioactive elements such as found in granite are not uncommon in Southern soil. That could be the link and the smoke may be putting some radioactivity in the air, but I doubt it's the smoke that attracts anything. This is a very well documented fact. I use to work in Oak Ridge. The employees at the labs were divided into two groups, those that smoked and those that did not. Those that did not were the ones allowed into areas that had radon because of this. http://www.epa.gov/iaq/radon/radonqa1.html Smokers are at higher risk of developing Radon-induced lung cancer http://www.epa.gov/iaq/radon/pubs/physic.html Exposure to both smoking and radon greatly enhances the risk of lung cancer. The Health Risk How Does Radon Induce Cancer? If inhaled, radon decay products (polonium-218 and polonium-214, solid form), unattached or attached to the surface of aerosols, dusts, and smoke particles, become deeply lodged or trapped in the lungs, where they can radiate and penetrate the cells of mucous membranes, bronchi, and other pulmonary tissues. The ionizing radiation energy affecting the bronchial epithelial cells is believed to initiate the process of carcinogenesis. Although radon-related lung cancers are mainly seen in the upper airways, radon increases the incidence of all histological types of lung cancer, including small cell carcinoma, adenocarcinoma, and squamous cell carcinoma. Lung cancer due to inhalation of radon decay products constitutes the only known risk associated with radon. In studies done on miners, variables such as age, duration of exposure, time since initiation of exposure and especially the use of tobacco have been found to influence individual risk. In fact, the use of tobacco multiplies the risk of radon-induced lung cancer enormously. http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/THC/Health/cancer.rad.html Martell and Sweder (14) report that indoor radon decay products that pass from the room air through burning cigarettes into mainstream smoke are present in large, insoluble smoke particles that are selectively deposited at bifurcations. http://www.ul.cs.cmu.edu/webRoot/Books/National_Academy_Press_Books/env_tobacco_smoke/041.htm radon daughters) can be adsorbed on the particles (of smoke) Published refererences: When radon is present in the air, aerosol particles, including those of tobacco smoke, tend to adsorb the earlier decay products of radon, namely the so-called short-lived daughters (Po-218, Pb-214, Bi-214, and Po-214), i.e, those preceding the long-lived daughters in the decay chain (Raabe, 1969; Kruger and N6thing, 1979; Bergman and Axelson, 1983). In clean air, the short-lived radon daughters tend to be more unattached to aerosol particles and therefore are more easily deposited on walls, furniture, etc., especially through electrostatic forces. In the presence of an aerosol like tobacco smoke, some of the short-lived radon daughters are attached to particles, and therefore remain available for inhalation to a much greater extent than would otherwise be the case. Indoor radon-daughter concentration can more than double in the presence of tobacco smoke (Bergman and Axelson, 1983). Since radon daughter exposure is a well-known cause of lung cancer in miners, the described attachment of radon daughters to cigarette smoke would contribute to the carcinogenic potential of ETS (Little et al., 1965; Rajewsky and Stahlhofen, 1966; Radford and Martell, 1978). Given the presence of appreciable amounts of radon in indoor air, irradiation of the bronchial tract from radon daughters attached to smoke aerosol could be more important than the irradiation from the long-lived daughters in the tobacco itself. This subject needs further research, especially in light of recent reports on the widespread prevalence of indoor radon throughout the world. It was uranium in the orange and
Re: CSRe: CS as skin conditioner
CS mixed with aloe vera is great for eliminating acne, much better than either alone. Marshall Stephen Summers wrote: Dear members Does anyone know of any documented scientific research on CS as a skin conditioner and natural astringent? Since CS works so well in healing burns with no scarring, one would imagine that it would be a marvellous for the skin and complexion as an anti-bacterial agent and conditioner. All replies are appreciated. Steve
Re: CSRe: CS reaction with stainless steel valve in heart
I believe there is some possibility that silver could plate out on the stainless steel valve. This should make the valve incapable to support the growth of any pathogens, not a bad thing. I cannot think of any problems it would cause, but of course cannot support that view. Marshall Stephen Summers wrote: Dear members We have had an enquiry about someone's mother who is 84 yrs old and has a stainless steel valve in her heart. Does anyone know whether CS would react with this device - bearing in mind that silver ions are transported by metalloproteins to the sites where they are needed. Please also note that we produce a very high quality CS i.e. crystal clear with no silver oxide or silver chloride. Thanks in advance. Steve
Re: CSaplolgy
Please accept my apology. I am so angry at myself, and I have beat myself up all night.Again, I consider you my CS family. Please forgive me. Wowsa! That was quite a collection, Nancy! Even my medium blonde daughter was sympathetic when I explained *why* I was reading a list of blonde jokes off the computer screen (and couldn't resist giggling, of course). I hope everyone will accept your explanation and be gracious about the faux pas. Marshall writes: Mike. There is a few minute delay from when a message gets (accidently) sent to the list and it gets forwarded. Is there any way to kill it from the cache during that time? None that I know of except putting the list on full moderation. That, and any other thing I can think of, would only make the list very cumbersome to use and run. We just have to be careful, and, when that fails, forgiving! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS And Emphysema
A friend of ours suffered from chronic emphysema for 8 years. Here is letter she sent us: As Karen has told you, I am feeling absolutely wonderful. I have so much energy and I just want to be on the go all the time. Before I started on the CS. life was such a drag, everything was such an effort - all I ever wanted to do was sit and watch the television in the evening - I just don't know how my husband put up with me - I must have been impossible to live with. Since starting the CS my whole outlook on life has changed. I want to be everywhere and do everything that's going on. It most definitely has nothing to do with my little stay in Milpark hospital because I was discharged on exactly the same medication that I was using when I was admitted despite the fact that the doctor laughed at my 1970 medication. After all the tests and scans and the bad reaction to their fancy medication, they said my body had become conditioned and was well controlled with the medication that I was taking, so best just to stay with it. I have been taking early morning walks, (not miles and miles - Just a block or two), but I would never have had the inclination to do that before. I still get breathless, but I just stop for a minute or two, gather myself and then carry on. You must appreciate that for the last 8 years I have done absolutely nothing, nothing, nothing!! So I am extremely unfit besides having lousy lungs. I am taking 50ml of CS in the mornings and 50ml in the evenings and I am inhaling it through my nebuliser twice a day. Just lately, over the past 10 days I have come into contact with at least five people with REALLY bad flu. Now before, literally if someone walked passed my door with a cold, I would catch it and I am not kidding. To date, nothing, it is quite amazing. I do not expect the CS to repair the damaged tissue in my lungs - that is too much to hope for, but the mere fact that it gives me such energy and general well being, I think it is the most wonderful product. - Original Message - From: Heidrun Beer conc...@atnet.at To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: CSCS And Emphysema I once read on a Dr. Clark list that a case of lung emphysema has been healed (the holes in the lung refilled with healthy tissue), but I don't recall what was the protocol used. In the doctor's book, emphysema is irreversible...?!? Does anybody here have any experience with lung emphysema and CS? Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CS reaction with stainless steel valve in heart
Dear members We have had an enquiry about someone's mother who is 84 yrs old and has a stainless steel valve in her heart. Does anyone know whether CS would react with this device - bearing in mind that silver ions are transported by metalloproteins to the sites where they are needed. Please also note that we produce a very high quality CS i.e. crystal clear with no silver oxide or silver chloride. Thanks in advance. Steve
CSRe: CS as skin conditioner
Dear members Does anyone know of any documented scientific research on CS as a skin conditioner and natural astringent? Since CS works so well in healing burns with no scarring, one would imagine that it would be a marvellous for the skin and complexion as an anti-bacterial agent and conditioner. All replies are appreciated. Steve
CSaplolgy
To my friends on the silver list, Very late last night I accidently sent an email to thelist that I intended to send to my new blond niece, Sue (silver coes just before Sue in my address book). It was intended to tease her about her new hair do. I am extemely sorry for this error. I consider you all my very good friends. I have learned so much from you all, and I would never want to offend any one of you. If I have offended any one of you I am very, very sorry. Please accept my apology. I am so angry at myself, and I have beat myself up all night. Again, I consider you my CS family. Please forgive me. Nancy
Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails
Maybe? http://www.focusonarthritis.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=463rd=1 - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Be sure your fingers are warm when you look at them? My whole finger gets blue when it's cold and not even all that cold. Ken At 11:48 PM 11/1/02 -0600, you wrote: I have also noticed a bluish/purple tint on my fingernail moons. In my case they have come and gone over the years. They were there before I ever heard of CS, but they are currently not blue, even though I drink CS every day and have done so for about a year now. I don't know what they indicate (if anything). So I just write it off as another non-essential mystery. I can't comment about your CS generator since I don't know anything about it, but I use the Silvergen SG-6 and am very happy with it. Be at Peace Al - Original Message - From: mailto:paulldn...@yahoo.comPaul Ladendorf To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comSilver List Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: CSUh Oh...Blue Fingernails Ok, about 2 years ago I started using about 1/2 to 1 oz/day of a 100 ppm colloidal silver product from Water Oz and about 2 mos ago I started using 16-32 oz of about 12-15 ppm according to the PWT of my own brew using a generator made by Sota Instruments with constant current adapter and then a Coyote Zenterprises generator also with constant current and thermal stirring (When I was using 32 oz made by the Sota generator I assumed that it was 5 ppm but according to the PWT it was more like 15 ppm) . Never noticed anything until now but the moons on my fingernails definitely have a blue-purple tint. Who knows they may have been blue for quite a while and maybe I just never noticed it until Marshall mentioned it. Guess I should stop for a little while and see what happens. I'll keep you posted. Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? http://rd.yahoo.com/careers/mailsig/*http://www.hotjobs.com HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
How does smoke attract radon that's not already in the air? And if it's already in the air, how does one not breath it anyway? Some plants do assimilate heavy metals as they grow and tobacco is one, or so I hear. Radon and other radioactive elements such as found in granite are not uncommon in Southern soil. That could be the link and the smoke may be putting some radioactivity in the air, but I doubt it's the smoke that attracts anything. It was uranium in the orange and yellow Fiestaware that was in the radioactive glaze. It hasn't been made for many many years and is now very valuable [if unusable] as a collectors item. Lead [uranium that has been depleted of its radioactivity over millenia of time] was once used in many ceramic glazes and is still used in some glass to enhance optical qualities [Leaded glass crystal is one] and non food ceramic ware. Ken At 09:39 AM 11/3/02 -0500, you wrote: I agree that Po210 would cause cancer. I would like to see more research referenced that links the Po210 to calcium phosphate fertilizer. It is known that radon is attracted to cigarette smoke, so a person in a smoke filled room will end up getting exposed to about 100 times as much radon as if they were in a room with clean air. This could easily explain the increase in smokers level of Po210 (Po210 is the granddaughter of Radon 210). But many foods and such contain fairly large amounts of radioactivity. As a nuclear instrumentation engineer, we used some of them as radioactive sources for testing. For instance a banana or avocado contains enough K40 (potassium 40) to easily expose an X-ray negative if you leave one sitting of the plate for a while. The mantles for gas lanterns are extremely radioactive, the white power they are doped with is Thorium 232. Some yellow plates have uranium oxide as the yellow dye, and are so hot you can see things glow around them sometimes from the radiation. Marshall jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: f.capezzuto writes: My sister got a Lupus like disease from taking a stop smoking drug. She got worse till...she stopped taking it...two weeks to fully recover... Now she is back to smoking, and healthy. ;) Engaging Atlantis Rising Magazine (11-12/02 Issue #36; article not yet online) explaining why cigarette smoke is radioactive, and possibly the patches and gums (depending on their ingredient sources): http://www.atlantisrising.com/ Recommendation/conclusion for smokers is to quit, or, ensure your tobacco is grown with appropriate fertilizers. (Pot farmers take note.) The fertilizers used on the tobacco fields are the culprit (same article reference): Lives could be saved by simply changing fertilizers, they say... Almost 95% of the Lung Cancer caused by Cigarettes are allegedly the result of using calcium phosphate fertilizer to grow the Tobacco... http://www.acsa.net/HealthAlert/lungcancer.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for animals- please help
wayne, The proportions generally used for CS and DMSO are 10 parts CS to 1 part DMSO. I use CS for my dogs and it has been great and should work for your dog's infection. Giving it several times a day is the best way, at least 3 ccs each time. Nancy Nanack Maltese Longwood, Fl. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:47 PM Subject: Re: CSCS for animals- please help Evening Brooks, Thanks for a very interesting and educational post relative to the puppies, CS and Gatorade. I have an older dog that is very sick with some type infection. I took her to the Emergency Clinic today and learned very little. I have been giving her CS but not with gatorade. She will still drink water from time to time. The question I have relates to the use of DMSO mixed with CS. Would 10 to 50 drops of CS per ounce be of any value. Thanks for any suggestions. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS and MS
Hi Nancy, Thanks for making the distinction clear. I wasn't up to speed on MS symptom terminology. I got another written testimonial yesterday about CS and MS relief from symptoms. Another wonderful message. Anybody want to read it? Trem - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSCS Elimination The two types of MS would be relapsing/remitting and the second is progressive. I have had both relapsing remitting for 34 years which then became progressive in 1995. I agree with everything below.. Nancy DeLise - Original Message - From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: CSCS Elimination Hi List, There's been some discussion about the effectiveness if CS on MS recently. Let me throw one anecdotal story out for those who may want to consider using CS to treat it. Apparently there are two types of MS. One type has bad bouts associated with it and then apparent spontaneous but not quite full recovery. So the bouts are very bad but they do not stay that way. Over time each bout leaves the person a little further down. I have a customer with progressive non remissive type MS (type 2). They go steadily downhill and do not recover. It is a steady slide. This person (female) was an R.N. and was diagnosed about 4 1/2 years ago at age 26. She is now 30. She had deteriorated to the stage of using a walker, was incontinent, was very weak on her left side and had no control of her right foot. She had been unable to work for a few years. In February 1, 2002 she started taking CS made with one of our units. She started at 32 ounces a day. She reduced that amount after 6 weeks to 16 ounces a day because she was experiencing what she considered a recovery. She regained the strength on her left side, her right foot became completely usable, she stopped using the walker and her incontinence went away except for an occasional slip. She then returned to work as a nurse. She has been on the same regimen since then except she says she began to backslide occasionally and forget to take the CS, thinking it wasn't necessary because she felt so good or for whatever reason. Whenever she stopped or didn't take enough she says she could feel it beginning to recur so she is now back to taking it on a regular basis. She has not had an MRI since starting the CS but I understand she will be having one in February of 2003 to see how the lesions are doing (or not). I expect to hear of the results and will post them when I hear the results. She used a PWT meter to determine the strength. She was using the SG6 and was making it at about 15 PPM. I feel the upshot here istake plenty.not a tablespoon at a time. Every person that has told me of their recovery from life threatening diseases use large amounts. And I can knock your socks off with some of the first hand accounts in my arsenal. All anecdotal of course I have many such anecdotal stories and all of them involved an aggressive regimen. My personal opinion is that a small amount taken daily is probably a good preventative but will not be effective when one has to really get after a disease. I have been taking an ounce a day for about 5 years and haven't had any colds, flu or infections. However if I were to become ill the first thing I would do is go all out and use it as drinking water until the bugs had disappeared. I hope this helps anyone that's interested. Trem -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSpop up ads
This happened to me too, this Sunday, but it was a collection of porno sites. Closing the pop ups only triggered a reload and I couldn't get rid of them and made the explorer browser unuseable. Why they thought I'd vist the sites instead of just being pissed about the invasion, I don't know. Anyhow, I installed the zone alarm firewall and haven't had any trouble since. And it lets me know when people are trying to get into my computer. [several times an hour] Disabling Java gets rid of pop ups but also gets rid of the ability to view some websites. Ken At 09:35 PM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: That is a new way of spamming people. I saw an article the other day on it, there is a way around it, some kind of setting on your computer. Maybe I'll look around in my history file and see if I can find the article again. Roxanne -Original Message- From: TJ Garland [mailto:goldenok...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSpop up ads WTF!!! I am getting pop up ads every 60 to 90 seconds. They are almost full screen and must be almost downloaded before they can be deleted. How do I stop them? They are from MSN. Help! TJ Garland TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSpop up ads
For the more adventurous types on this list I suggest that you check out the Proxomitron program. It will filter allot of nefarious elements from websites while allowing normal surfing without the usual distractions. It is freeware and better than most of the commercial filter programs on the net. There is a bit of a learning curve, but nothing insurmountable. If I can use it then anyone with a little grit can too. Good luck and enjoy. For some more interesting links with information and download try: http://www.laudanski.com/proxomitron/help/Contents.html http://asp.flaaten.dk/proxo/ Another resource for this type of material is dslreports.com Try these links on the security forum there: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1133635;root=security,1;mode =flat http://www.dslreports.com is a valuable resource for security and freeware/shareware minded individuals. Check it out. Watch for broken links above and if cutting and pasting please cut and paste only that part of the link between the and the Jim Wright -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSpop up ads This happened to me too, this Sunday, but it was a collection of porno sites. Closing the pop ups only triggered a reload and I couldn't get rid of them and made the explorer browser unuseable. Why they thought I'd vist the sites instead of just being pissed about the invasion, I don't know. Anyhow, I installed the zone alarm firewall and haven't had any trouble since. And it lets me know when people are trying to get into my computer. [several times an hour] Disabling Java gets rid of pop ups but also gets rid of the ability to view some websites. Ken At 09:35 PM 11/3/02 -0600, you wrote: That is a new way of spamming people. I saw an article the other day on it, there is a way around it, some kind of setting on your computer. Maybe I'll look around in my history file and see if I can find the article again. Roxanne -Original Message- From: TJ Garland [mailto:goldenok...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSpop up ads WTF!!! I am getting pop up ads every 60 to 90 seconds. They are almost full screen and must be almost downloaded before they can be deleted. How do I stop them? They are from MSN. Help! TJ Garland TJ Garland, CMO supplier there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people. _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSaplolgy
No problem for me,,did you hear the one about the dog and the bartender,,well - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:58 AM Subject: CSaplolgy To my friends on the silver list, Very late last night I accidently sent an email to thelist that I intended to send to my new blond niece, Sue (silver coes just before Sue in my address book). It was intended to tease her about her new hair do. I am extemely sorry for this error. I consider you all my very good friends. I have learned so much from you all, and I would never want to offend any one of you. If I have offended any one of you I am very, very sorry. Please accept my apology. I am so angry at myself, and I have beat myself up all night. Again, I consider you my CS family. Please forgive me. Nancy
Re: CSReality lives !!
Half Empty or Half Full? The glass is too big for what it's being asked to do. But it still works after a fashion. [and leaves room for the liqueur and olive, and/or a blast of bad breath] Fashion is the ultimate in the field of the transitory. Wha'zit be Bub? Asks the bartender. The drunken Christian hears the name Beelzebub and moves away. :-) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSReality Lives: Tao Te Silver
WELL DONE!!! in rare form K Tao Te Silver ( Silver and the Way ) The ions that can be measured are not the real ions The zeta potential that can be gauged is not the real potential The current IS the father of particles and ions The water is the mother of atoms and particles; proteins and salts Ever managing the current one can see the mystery Ever managing the water one can purify the expression. The silver ions and particles spring from the same source but differ in designation To the uninformed, this appears as darkness Darkness within darkess! Heed well! The gateway to good colloidal silver. . Contaminate not the water lest it fill with compounds You can create silver ions but you cannot prevent reactions You can create silver particles But you cannot guarantee cellular union: When false claims fill your mind You become unguardable. Claim superiority and authority And you bequeath misfortune upon yourself Rather: Just make your CS And withdraw when the work is done For that is the Way of Silver. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpop up ads
http://www.analogx.com/welcome.htm Click on Site and down under software you will find Addon below that is POW, download this and any time a pop up appears click on the Pow icon and click add/delete a pow window will appear and double click the popup in the pow window and that particular popup will not pop up any more. I forget how to put the pow icon on your task bar but that is where I have mine. these people also have a program called maxmem to reclaim reserved memory that every program sets aside, in case they need it. - Original Message - From: Roxanne rtr...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: RE: CSpop up ads The article is at: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/10/21/pop.upspam.ap/index.html If this is the problem, simple disable the messenger function. I had this problem once and it was not related to this article. I had to reboot the computer to keep them from popping up. Roxanne -Original Message- From: TJ Garland [mailto:goldenok...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSpop up ads WTF!!! I am getting pop up ads every 60 to 90 seconds. They are almost full screen and must be almost downloaded before they can be deleted. How do I stop them? They are from MSN. Help! TJ Garland -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
There is a theory that the brain requires a lot of magnesium for proper functioning, and that many Alzheimer's victims are very deficient in magnesium. In some instances, aluminum can be used as a substitute for magnesium, so the magnesium deprived brain draws the aluminum from the various body tissues in order to substitute it for the needed magnesium - hence the wide incidence of high aluminum levels in the brains of Alzheimer's Disease sufferers. This might also explain why some get Alzheimer's disease, and others do not (baring genetic factors), in seemingly similar situations. Interestingly, in the US, aprox. 95% of the population has some degree of magnesium deficiency. BTW, more than 50% of the magnesium found naturally in many raw foods is destroyed by heat (even blanching vegetables destroys 80% in some cases), so unless you eat a predominantly raw diet, a magnesium supplement is advisable, even if you regularly eat a magnesium-rich diet. And take some Cilantro! Jannette I love English tea, and learned from my supplier that tea plants pull in a lot of aluminum from the soil. I was curious about this apropos aluminum and Alzheimer's disease. I still drink my tea, understanding that aluminum (aluminium to British types) is everywhere. Whether it gets into the brain via foodstuffs, I do not know. Whether cilantro can scavenge it from the brain, as Dr. Y. Omura claims, I do not know, but believe. JBB --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTrem, Please Post the Story
Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:Hi Nancy, Thanks for making the distinction clear. I wasn't up to speed on MS symptom terminology. I got another written testimonial yesterday about CS and MS relief from symptoms. Another wonderful message. Anybody want to read it? Trem - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE To: Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSCS Elimination The two types of MS would be relapsing/remitting and the second is progressive. I have had both relapsing remitting for 34 years which then became progressive in 1995. I agree with everything below.. Nancy DeLise - Original Message - From: Trem To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: CSCS Elimination Hi List, There's been some discussion about the effectiveness if CS on MS recently. Let me throw one anecdotal story out for those who may want to consider using CS to treat it. Apparently there are two types of MS. One type has bad bouts associated with it and then apparent spontaneous but not quite full recovery. So the bouts are very bad but they do not stay that way. Over time each bout leaves the person a little further down. I have a customer with progressive non remissive type MS (type 2). They go steadily downhill and do not recover. It is a steady slide. This person (female) was an R.N. and was diagnosed about 4 1/2 years ago at age 26. She is now 30. She had deteriorated to the stage of using a walker, was incontinent, was very weak on her left side and had no control of her right foot. She had been unable to work for a few years. In February 1, 2002 she started taking CS made with one of our units. She started at 32 ounces a day. She reduced that amount after 6 weeks to 16 ounces a day because she was experiencing what she considered a recovery. She regained the strength on her left side, her right foot became completely usable, she stopped using the walker and her incontinence went away except for an occasional slip. She then returned to work as a nurse. She has been on the same regimen since then except she says she began to backslide occasionally and forget to take the CS, thinking it wasn't necessary because she felt so good or for whatever reason. Whenever she stopped or didn't take enough she says she could feel it beginning to recur so she is now back to taking it on a regular basis. She has not had an MRI since starting the CS but I understand she will be having one in February of 2003 to see how the lesions are doing (or not). I expect to hear of the results and will post them when I hear the results. She used a PWT meter to determine the strength. She was using the SG6 and was making it at about 15 PPM. I feel the upshot here istake plenty.not a tablespoon at a time. Every person that has told me of their recovery from life threatening diseases use large amounts. And I can knock your socks off with some of the first hand accounts in my arsenal. All anecdotal of course I have many such anecdotal stories and all of them involved an aggressive regimen. My personal opinion is that a small amount taken daily is probably a good preventative but will not be effective when one has to really get after a disease. I have been taking an ounce a day for about 5 years and haven't had any colds, flu or infections. However if I were to become ill the first thing I would do is go all out and use it as drinking water until the bugs had disappeared. I hope this helps anyone that's interested. Trem -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
Canadian Maple Leafs, available from any coin dealer. Very pure, and quite inexpensive. Marshall John wrote: List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447
Re: CSCS And Emphysema
For asthma and emphysema go to: http://www.wt.com.au/~pkolb/buteyko.htm With these excercises emphysema can at least be stabilized and quality of life improved... Sonja - Original Message - From: Stephen Summers surec...@netactive.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: Re: CSCS And Emphysema A friend of ours suffered from chronic emphysema for 8 years. Here is letter she sent us: As Karen has told you, I am feeling absolutely wonderful. I have so much energy and I just want to be on the go all the time. Before I started on the CS. life was such a drag, everything was such an effort - all I ever wanted to do was sit and watch the television in the evening - I just don't know how my husband put up with me - I must have been impossible to live with. Since starting the CS my whole outlook on life has changed. I want to be everywhere and do everything that's going on. It most definitely has nothing to do with my little stay in Milpark hospital because I was discharged on exactly the same medication that I was using when I was admitted despite the fact that the doctor laughed at my 1970 medication. After all the tests and scans and the bad reaction to their fancy medication, they said my body had become conditioned and was well controlled with the medication that I was taking, so best just to stay with it. I have been taking early morning walks, (not miles and miles - Just a block or two), but I would never have had the inclination to do that before. I still get breathless, but I just stop for a minute or two, gather myself and then carry on. You must appreciate that for the last 8 years I have done absolutely nothing, nothing, nothing!! So I am extremely unfit besides having lousy lungs. I am taking 50ml of CS in the mornings and 50ml in the evenings and I am inhaling it through my nebuliser twice a day. Just lately, over the past 10 days I have come into contact with at least five people with REALLY bad flu. Now before, literally if someone walked passed my door with a cold, I would catch it and I am not kidding. To date, nothing, it is quite amazing. I do not expect the CS to repair the damaged tissue in my lungs - that is too much to hope for, but the mere fact that it gives me such energy and general well being, I think it is the most wonderful product. - Original Message - From: Heidrun Beer conc...@atnet.at To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: CSCS And Emphysema I once read on a Dr. Clark list that a case of lung emphysema has been healed (the holes in the lung refilled with healthy tissue), but I don't recall what was the protocol used. In the doctor's book, emphysema is irreversible...?!? Does anybody here have any experience with lung emphysema and CS? Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: [Re: CSRe: 99.99%]
.999 silver should be fine. Even if the remaining .01% were lead or arsenic (instead of the most likely candidate of gold and copper), the amount that would end up in low ppm CS would be below the level set for such heavy metals by the epa. Marshall Hank Adams wrote: What about the Universal Trade Unit(1994)? says 999 fine. and what about the Silver Trade Unit (no date) says .999 fine silver. Are these safe to use? Yours Hank Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - Canadian Maple Leafs, available from any coin dealer. Very pure, and quite inexpensive. Marshall John wrote: List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCs and DMSO Human Usage
Can someone give me some info on dosages and uses with DMSO and CS for Human use. Ie can it be used internally or strictly external usages? thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTrem, Please Post the Story --- RE: MS and CS
Hi Paul, OK. Here's another MS testimonial for CS. Trem -- November 3, 2002 Dear Customer Service: I have used my SilverGen machine now for a little over two years and the results have been striking to say the least. I would like to give you a little history and then bring you up to date. In 1996 I began having problems with a strange symptom where I would swell up with hives and have episodes of internal bleeding. I of course went to see a physician and the original diagnosis was that I had encountered a spider bite to which I was allergic and therefore displaying the above reaction to the spider's venom. After a complete treatment to the house to clear the possibility of further infestation as well as large doses of antihistamine's the reaction and symptoms seemed to clear up for a time. Six months later in the dead of Winter the symptoms returned and I was sent to see a rheumatologist. It took two more years of tests to finally arrive at a diagnosis of Lupus. The symptoms were heightening and I was not able to continue working due to the severity of the reactions. I was working at that time for the Trustees of Health and Hospitals in Boston, MA, as information systems director. I quit my job in Massachusetts and moved back to New York with family while continuing treatments to reduce stress and eliminate joint pain. New symptoms began to unfold in 1998 and further testing began to reveal that the diagnosis of Lupus might not be correct. I had begun to lose eyesight and the joint pain had elevated. I also began to display other problems such as incontinence, loss of motor control, and high fevers. I was again sent back for a battery of tests and finally reached a Neurologist who ordered full MRI and Spinal Tap tests. The results came back undeniably that the diagnosis of Lupus was not correct and that what I indeed suffered was Multiple Sclerosis. Living with MS was not a happy thought and as many other parts of my body began to exhibit symptoms, I became highly depressed and debilitated. In 2000 I discovered the website which contained the story about Colloidal Silver and the SilverGen machines. Having almost given up hope at that point, I did order the machine and began making 50PPM colloidal silver. I used it first a couple of drops at a time and then began increasing the dosage to about 4 ounces a day. Within a four month period my symptoms began to dissipate and I actually regained some of the use of muscle coordination in my limbs and eyes. I have used Colloidal Silver ever since on a daily basis and most of my symptoms have been kept in check. As a small side note, I began putting a small amount of Colloidal Silver in my pet's water about a year ago and symptoms that my Springer Spaniel had of allergic reactions to grass seed have almost completely vanished as well as her joint pain due to canine arthritis. I know that all of this may sound somewhat like a fairy tale to those who have not encountered the level of pain that I have in my life but I assure you that it is a true story and to this very day I credit the fast healing of my body in major part to the discovery of Colloidal Silver. It has also worked wonders on infections I have gotten from time to time during this whole process and I have not had to use antibiotics or antihistamines since the time I began using Colloidal Silver. I thank you for making this technology available to me and to the public in general. My machine has worked flawlessly for two years now and I have gone through several sets of silver electrodes with no problems. The only thing I have noticed is that the original PPM tester I bought from you has ceased to operate but I've learned the regimen of making the CS so well now that I really don't need it any longer. Best regards, Mark Andersen, Ph.D. - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:38 AM Subject: Re: CSTrem, Please Post the Story Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: Hi Nancy, Thanks for making the distinction clear. I wasn't up to speed on MS symptom terminology. I got another written testimonial yesterday about CS and MS relief from symptoms. Another wonderful message. Anybody want to read it? Trem - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE To: Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSCS Elimination The two types of MS would be relapsing/remitting and the second is progressive. I have had both relapsing remitting for 34 years which then became progressive in 1995. I agree with everything below.. Nancy DeLise - Original Message - From: Trem To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:42 PM Subj! ect: Re: CSCS Elimination Hi List, There's been some discussion about the effectiveness if CS on MS
Re: CSCS and MS
Trem, Yes, very much...send to me off list if no one else is interested. Regards, Craig Chamberlin -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS and Oxygen ?
I'm new to the group and have a question. I have heard some natural type doctor recommend mixing Stabilized Oxygen with CS in purified water. I know that when brewing cs it can react with other properties to make some bad compounds, but would consuming the two together be a bad choice? TIA Glenda -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: [Re: CSaplolgy]
Well I don't post very often (need vodka to do it). But thank you Nancy for the miss send, I got some laughs. Are you blond by chance? Yours Hank M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Please accept my apology. I am so angry at myself, and I have beat myself up all night.Again, I consider you my CS family. Please forgive me. Wowsa! That was quite a collection, Nancy! Even my medium blonde daughter was sympathetic when I explained *why* I was reading a list of blonde jokes off the computer screen (and couldn't resist giggling, of course). I hope everyone will accept your explanation and be gracious about the faux pas. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS And Emphysema
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:12:48 +0200, Stephen Summers wrote in 006901c28419$7b57ddc0$cd3bf...@computer1: A friend of ours suffered from chronic emphysema for 8 years. Here is letter she sent us: GREAT!!! Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: 99.99%
List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
Hi, I can guarantee you that 99.99 is available. I have mine made for me by Handy and Harman, a thousand ounces at a time, in 14 gauge wire size. They charge spot (current silver price) plus a work fee per ounce, and You can get in touch with them at 1-800-24-KARAT. However, their minimum order is 500 ounces for the four 9 fine. Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: John To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: CSRe: 99.99% List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
john, 99.99% fine silver is known as . fine or four nines, the canadiens mint a silver maple leaf that is . fine. all the silver producers put out silver rounds or silver bars that are .999 fine. these are good for making CS. three nines silver is from .9990 or .9991 or .9992 fine all the way up to to .9998, but they can't call it four nines http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/fines.html#three this company advertises . wire , in 12, 14, 16, and 22 guage. they are located in arizona, u.s. jim From: John To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: CSRe: 99.99% List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
Try ccsilver.com-they stock . silver in 12 ga at $4.95 per foot. They ship quickly too. Chip John wrote: List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: [Re: CSRe: 99.99%]
What about the Universal Trade Unit(1994)? says 999 fine. and what about the Silver Trade Unit (no date) says .999 fine silver. Are these safe to use? Yours Hank Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - Canadian Maple Leafs, available from any coin dealer. Very pure, and quite inexpensive. Marshall John wrote: List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: [Re: CSRe: [Re: CSRe: 99.99%]]
Thank you Marshall, I started with the coins and went to . silver wire, I am thinking of attaching the coins to the wire, That is why I ask. Yours Hank Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote: .999 silver should be fine. Even if the remaining .01% were lead or arsenic (instead of the most likely candidate of gold and copper), the amount that would end up in low ppm CS would be below the level set for such heavy metals by the epa. Marshall Hank Adams wrote: What about the Universal Trade Unit(1994)? says 999 fine. and what about the Silver Trade Unit (no date) says .999 fine silver. Are these safe to use? Yours Hank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: .9999 silver
I got the . fine silver 12 g. wire from ccsilver.com http://ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Christine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSReality Lives: Tao Te Silver
Let me just quote a stanza from the Tao Te King ( Ching ), and then we can begin our own Tao Te Silver! And on these uplifting notes, can we please retire the Reality threads, or transmute them to the Off Topic list? Any silver list member can post a message to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com ... and can read it on the web at: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html Instructions for subscribing to the e-mail and digest versions, as well as Off Topic List rules, at: http://www.silverlist.org/OffTopic.html Be well, Mike D. silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
I love English tea, and learned from my supplier that tea plants pull in a lot of aluminum from the soil. I was curious about this apropos aluminum and Alzheimer's disease. I still drink my tea, understanding that aluminum (aluminium to British types) is everywhere. Whether it gets into the brain via foodstuffs, I do not know. Whether cilantro can scavenge it from the brain, as Dr. Y. Omura claims, I do not know, but believe. JBB Ode Coyote wrote: How does smoke attract radon that's not already in the air? And if it's already in the air, how does one not breath it anyway? Some plants do assimilate heavy metals as they grow and tobacco is one, or so I hear. Radon and other radioactive elements such as found in granite are not uncommon in Southern soil. That could be the link and the smoke may be putting some radioactivity in the air, but I doubt it's the smoke that attracts anything. It was uranium in the orange and yellow Fiestaware that was in the radioactive glaze. It hasn't been made for many many years and is now very valuable [if unusable] as a collectors item. Lead [uranium that has been depleted of its radioactivity over millenia of time] was once used in many ceramic glazes and is still used in some glass to enhance optical qualities [Leaded glass crystal is one] and non food ceramic ware. Ken At 09:39 AM 11/3/02 -0500, you wrote: I agree that Po210 would cause cancer. I would like to see more research referenced that links the Po210 to calcium phosphate fertilizer. It is known that radon is attracted to cigarette smoke, so a person in a smoke filled room will end up getting exposed to about 100 times as much radon as if they were in a room with clean air. This could easily explain the increase in smokers level of Po210 (Po210 is the granddaughter of Radon 210). But many foods and such contain fairly large amounts of radioactivity. As a nuclear instrumentation engineer, we used some of them as radioactive sources for testing. For instance a banana or avocado contains enough K40 (potassium 40) to easily expose an X-ray negative if you leave one sitting of the plate for a while. The mantles for gas lanterns are extremely radioactive, the white power they are doped with is Thorium 232. Some yellow plates have uranium oxide as the yellow dye, and are so hot you can see things glow around them sometimes from the radiation. Marshall jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: f.capezzuto writes: My sister got a Lupus like disease from taking a stop smoking drug. She got worse till...she stopped taking it...two weeks to fully recover... Now she is back to smoking, and healthy. ;) Engaging Atlantis Rising Magazine (11-12/02 Issue #36; article not yet online) explaining why cigarette smoke is radioactive, and possibly the patches and gums (depending on their ingredient sources): http://www.atlantisrising.com/ Recommendation/conclusion for smokers is to quit, or, ensure your tobacco is grown with appropriate fertilizers. (Pot farmers take note.) The fertilizers used on the tobacco fields are the culprit (same article reference): Lives could be saved by simply changing fertilizers, they say... Almost 95% of the Lung Cancer caused by Cigarettes are allegedly the result of using calcium phosphate fertilizer to grow the Tobacco... http://www.acsa.net/HealthAlert/lungcancer.html jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBlonde Apology
Nancy, I laughed myself silly in the wee hours of the morning reading your jokes and thinking about all these young boys and teenagers dying their hair or just the top of their hair (crown) blonde here in Hawaii. It's the fad now. Aloha, Sharie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCs and DMSO Human Usage
Hi..I know for a fact that it can be taken internally because I've done it.and it has been used many times for RA via IV. It tastes nasty ...and even worse..it makes you smell even worse..It takes 3 days for the smell to go away after you discontinue use. Robb - Original Message - From: silversw...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: CSCs and DMSO Human Usage Can someone give me some info on dosages and uses with DMSO and CS for Human use. Ie can it be used internally or strictly external usages? thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
I have 12 ga, with a certificate of assay, available to anyone on the silver list, for $8.50 per oz. including shipping. Best Regards, Arnold Beland - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: 99.99% Canadian Maple Leafs, available from any coin dealer. Very pure, and quite inexpensive. Marshall John wrote: List, It would appear that 99.99% fine silver is almost impossible to obtain, even in USA, below is a copy of two emails from Hauser Miller, who are I believe leading precious metal dealers in USA. Any comments anyone? John in Australia Dear John, All we carry is .999 fine silver, not .. It is available in 12ga, we can ship to Australia, and we do accept Visa. Thanks. Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447 John, Sorry, not off-hand do I know any merchants of 4-9's silver. As for the impurities, usually it is copper but of course it varies and to find out exactly we would have to do a chemical analysis. The silver runs about $3.50 a foot approximately. Our fax number is +1-314-487-0394. That should work. If you have any more problems faxing you can always e-mail in an order. Thanks! Amber Sebold Sales Representative Hauser Miller Co. 1(800) 462-7447
Re: CSCs and DMSO Human Usage
on 5/11/2002 1:45 PM, Robb Allen at rube2...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi..I know for a fact that it can be taken internally because I've done it.and it has been used many times for RA via IV. It tastes nasty ...and even worse..it makes you smell even worse..It takes 3 days for the smell to go away after you discontinue use. Robb Wow, did your friends actually stick around for three days to tell you this Robb :-) Cheers, Roger
Re: CSReality lives !!
11/2/02 11:27 AM Ode Coyote postulated: If a UFO landed right in front of ten people, only two would see it. Another two might find it if they bumped into it. Four would walk unconciously around it or stay frozen in place and neither see or bump into it and the remaining two would have nightmares. And those that experienced anything at all won't agree on what that experience was unless they had very similar belief systems like family members or close friends or had communicated during the experience and reached an agreement then. The specialist learns more and more about less and less till he knows everything about nothing. The generalist learns less and less about more and more till he knows nothing about everything. Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time.Jack [depends on the persons aquired patterns of opinion and how hard they defend them at any given time. Sometimes reality gets blown out of it's own water. Then everything changes or gets denied. Ever had a car run 'through' you and not leave a scratch? I and two friends got beaten by a gang of thugs with tire irons once and suffered no damage or pain at all. It was like feathers and ghosts. But it was so unbelievable that none of us ever even discussed it. Afterwards, we just stood there looking at each other with stupid quizzical expressions on our faces and went home in a daze. The 4rth person, a woman, who never took a blow, was freaking out and we couldn't comprehend why.] Transmutation of elements in living bodies? Sure, why not? This 'place' is WEIRD! ..not nearly as real as is believed. *** YEAH,RIGHT ! He's such a kidder. :-) Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for animals- please help
Dear Wayne, I do not prescribe anything for ANY medical condition..pets or humans. However, I DO relate information on evidence we have evinced from our research efforts. Therefore, I will comment on what we have found effective in some of our experimental research cases involving similar conditions. We have found that older pets respond much faster.and more favorably.to enema infusions of CS X Ringer' Lactate (or Gatorade)..than to orally-based protocols. The notable exception being upper GI insults involving the alimentary lining-tissue. Actually, even in those cases we utilized CS both as an enema and orally-with quite acceptable results. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Brooks, Thanks for a very interesting and educational post relative to the puppies, CS and Gatorade. I have an older dog that is very sick with some type infection. I took her to the Emergency Clinic today and learned very little. I have been giving her CS but not with gatorade. She will still drink water from time to time. The question I have relates to the use of DMSO mixed with CS. Would 10 to 50 drops of CS per ounce be of any value. Thanks for any suggestions. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS and DMSO Human Usage
Evening Robb, Hi..I know for a fact that it can be taken internally because I've done it.and it has been used many times for RA via IV. It tastes nasty ...and even worse..it makes you smell even worse..It takes 3 days for the smell to go away after you discontinue use. Gee, that sounds like it might make good mosquito repellant. Our very wet weather for the last several weeks, plus warm temperatures has created lots of mosquitoes. More have bitten me that I want to count. Plus, west nile is close by, 1/2 mile and 14 miles away is too close. How do you figure that Dr. Stanley Jacob can take this stuff every day? Could you tell us how much it takes to produce this smell? What about the Russian doctors? Russian Doctors alone, write 30 million DMSO prescriptions annually for patients suffering from arthritis, lupus, Scleroderma and a host of pain-related musco-skeletal conditions. http://www.a1msm.co.uk/015_success/02_msm_james_coburn_arthritis.htm Many of you have seen this information. Possibly some have not. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and DMSO Human Usage
I live in Russia for 20 years and never heard of DMSO for arthritis or anything else. Yes, it was first discovered in Russia but it was never a main treatment protocol.
Re: CSCS and DMSO Human Usage
Greeting Robb and Wayne, Also want to read about CS and DMSO from the standpoint of theirs who have used it. I used DMSO with CS to get the CS where it need to go (my lower leg and foot). I t worked. The only drawback was that it did definitely change my body odor. My husband said it was not offensive, but definitely different. After nearly six weeks of daily use,I knew the penetrant effect of the DMSO was getting the CS to where it was needed. I figured the odor was a small price to pay for a cure and I did get the cure! And yes it was a good mosquito, chigger and tick repellant. Haven't tried it orally, but imagine what it tastes like. Think I will stick with IV. Thanks for furthering my education! Barbara - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: CSCS and DMSO Human Usage Evening Robb, Hi..I know for a fact that it can be taken internally because I've done it.and it has been used many times for RA via IV. It tastes nasty ...and even worse..it makes you smell even worse..It takes 3 days for the smell to go away after you discontinue use. Gee, that sounds like it might make good mosquito repellant. Our very wet weather for the last several weeks, plus warm temperatures has created lots of mosquitoes. More have bitten me that I want to count. Plus, west nile is close by, 1/2 mile and 14 miles away is too close. How do you figure that Dr. Stanley Jacob can take this stuff every day? Could you tell us how much it takes to produce this smell? What about the Russian doctors? Russian Doctors alone, write 30 million DMSO prescriptions annually for patients suffering from arthritis, lupus, Scleroderma and a host of pain-related musco-skeletal conditions. http://www.a1msm.co.uk/015_success/02_msm_james_coburn_arthritis.htm Many of you have seen this information. Possibly some have not. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCs and DMSO Human Usage
Re: CSCs and DMSO Human UsageDoes the oral DMSO lead to any GI SYMPTOMS? - Original Message - From: Roger Barker To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Re: CSCs and DMSO Human Usage on 5/11/2002 1:45 PM, Robb Allen at rube2...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi..I know for a fact that it can be taken internally because I've done it.and it has been used many times for RA via IV. It tastes nasty ...and even worse..it makes you smell even worse..It takes 3 days for the smell to go away after you discontinue use. Robb Wow, did your friends actually stick around for three days to tell you this Robb :-) Cheers, Roger
Re: CSRe: 99.99%
Thanks Jim, however, they don't accept credit cards!! This is the statement direct from their web site Orders outside of the US: Credit Cards are not accepted, please send Money Order/Certified check in US Dollars upon receiving a confirmation number. Makes it hard for us aliens wanting to buy,... John in Australia - Original Message - From: Acmeair To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:23 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: 99.99% john, 99.99% fine silver is known as . fine or four nines, the canadiens mint a silver maple leaf that is . fine. all the silver producers put out silver rounds or silver bars that are .999 fine. these are good for making CS. three nines silver is from .9990 or .9991 or .9992 fine all the way up to to .9998, but they can't call it four nines http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/fines.html#three this company advertises . wire , in 12, 14, 16, and 22 guage. they are located in arizona, u.s. jim
