Re: CSRE:sipping CS all day

2002-11-11 Thread Rod Stevenson

- Original Message -
From: Jdownmaine apea...@midcoast.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: CSRE:sipping CS all day


 I agree with the premise of treating aggressively, and 16 oz a day of 10
ppm
 CS seems fine,
 BUT please note that it should be taken on an empty stomach unless you are
 interested in
 Killing the intestinal flora and fauna too.
 Judy Down Maine.

I thought the general opinion was that intestinal flora remained largely
unaffected by taking CS under normal circumstances. As I remember (from
speaking to various promoters and 'gen men' last year) the concensus was/is?
that it won't usually get much further than the first couple of feet of the
small intestine.
The other point, is about the above mentioned fauna. CS kills parasitic
worms? Sure?

Regards
Rod


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Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM

2002-11-11 Thread M. G. Devour
Gaston writes:
 I would be interested to know if the MSM you are taking is a crystal
 (flake) or powder type pls ?

I wouldn't know, since the stuff I'm buying is in capsules. It's Natrol 
brand bought at Walgreen's. It seems to contain MSM from Lignisul.

I notice that I don't seem to be getting quite the lift I have from the 
current course that I got when using the powder or the previous 
brand of capsules that I bought at the health food store. However, 
there's no control in this experiment, so it's hard to draw any 
conclusions!

Be well,

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CSWhere are we from

2002-11-11 Thread Tony Moody
Tony Moody
Hogsback
South Africa



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CSBrain Barrier ( Other Animals )

2002-11-11 Thread Wayne Fugitt



This is the only reference I could find on CS toxicity to brain cells.  If 
this is true then do not use DMSO with CS.  It will carry it right across 
the blood brain barrier within seconds of oral or topical administration.


   If DMSO is crossing the blood brain barrier, what keeps it from
effecting horses whereas DMSO is used freely?

  Will DMSO along have any ill effect on the brain or only the material 
it  carries.


  I have only used CS with DMSO for a tooth ache which it helped in minutes.

  This is not a normal tooth ache as it is caused by an infection.

  The tooth has been marked for death for 5.5 years.  It is very important 
for chewing trail mix which I eat daily.


  Thus I am being very hard headed about giving up this important 
tooth.  As long as DMSO and CS will ease the pain,  I will use this tooth 
for a few more years.


  Actually, during this 5 year period, it has only hurt 3 times.

  Wayne


Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM

2002-11-11 Thread J J



-Original Message-
From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS  DMSO/MSM

Hi folks;

I've just experienced great results in the last 10 days or so using about 
15% DMSO with 85% CS and some sea salt and sodium bicarbonate to make it 
alkaline.  I'm using it in a nasal spray to get rid of a sinus infection 
that I've had for over a year. It's nearly gone now.  DMSO is an excellent 
antioxidant too and I'm getting much better results with it than I was with 
MSM in its place.


Duncan Crow


Hiya Duncan,

As a chronic sinus sufferer myself, this is *great* news! Accepting as
fact that you are not prescribing, could you share a few more details
about your mixture? Such as the purity or strength of the DMSO, the
PPM of the CS, and how much sea salt and sodium bicarbonate you used?
I admit to trying a few different CS mixtures as well, using H2O2 and
even some of my original nose drops, but they've not been as
successful as I'd like.

Many thanks in advance. If there's any problem with posting your
recipe, off-list to jimmy dot joe at msa dot hinet dot net is fine,
also.

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Re: CSRe: warts

2002-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
darocks...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 11/9/02 1:24:48 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
 writes:

  Haven't used cs on warts, but tea tree oil,  

 Haven't used either but apple cider vinegar used full strength will take it
 off in about 7 days. If it is in easy location soak 10 minutes are more twice
 daily. The wart turns black, meaning dead, continue and in a couple of days
 GONE. If not in a good area use cottonball or gauze absorbed place for about
 the same length of time. Sometimes overnight wrapping is suggested.

Does this leave a scar on larger warts?  Every time I have seen CS or CS and
aloevera used, the wart simply shrinks and disappears over time, and ends up
leaving no scar at all.

Marshall


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Re: CSwarts

2002-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley



If you pump enough CS into their tunnels it will drown them.
No, seriously, I have never tried it on moles, or skin tags either for
that matter. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who
has tried it.
Marshall
Tom  Mary McFadden wrote:



What
about moles? Tom

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Date: Friday, November 08,
2002 11:59:12 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re:CS>warts

CS mixed with aloe vera I have found to be good for removing warts
as well.
Marshall
Shirley Reed wrote:
> Haven't used cs on warts, but tea tree oil, full
> strength, applied daily for a couple of weeks will
> take 'em off. Also have heard that GSE, full strength
> and band-aided for a few days will work. Check
> www.nutriteam.com site. Best
wishes. pj
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Re: CSWater Oz

2002-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
a rose by any other name wrote:

 If she does respond please share anything that she will let you share with
 us...

 still no response to the process...is there any heat extraction,
 crystallization or what ever involved...or is is simple chemical
 extraction...and is it anyone's best guess it is chloride?  And is that all
 we have, best guesses???

 I was told by an employee there that a doctor took the minerals to the same
 lab that does lab work for MD Anderson Cancer Hospital in Houston, Texas.
 The lab supposedly verified that there were indeed minerals in the water by
 one test, and that indeed they were completely water soluble because even
 under the highest magnification the mineral particles could not be seen.
 Now, is this possible?

They would have to say what kind of microscope was used.  Even an optical
microscope cannot see the smaller particle CS, but a dark field microscope
(which is another type of optical scope) can (same as with a laser looking for
tyndall), and electron microscope can see many molecules, and most sizes of CS
except CS is a liquid and electron microscopes don't work on liquids.  A
scanning microscope can see individual atoms, but once again will not work
with liquids.

Marshall


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Re: CSDW

2002-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
It shouldn't. Maybe it assures them that they will always sell you a
gallon or two of their product every year no matter how little you use.

Marshall

ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:

 Why does my gallon of distilled water have a BEST BY date on it?
 Does distilled water go bad?


Re: CSWhere are we from

2002-11-11 Thread a rose by any other name

Winslow, Arkansas





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Re: CSDW

2002-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is true, but my experience is that these plasticizers tend to leach
rather fast, you can taste them within days if the bottle is leaching. I
have never seen a bottle that has no taste in the water for a week, lets
say, then does any time down the road.

Maybe others have had other experiences.

Marshall

Malcolm Stebbins wrote:

  The container can slowly leach plasticizers used in the plastic
 bottles manufacture into the dw.  You can smell or taste them,
 sometimes.

 At 11:51 PM 11/9/02 -0500, you wrote:

 Why does my gallon of distilled water have a BEST BY date on it?
 Does distilled water go bad?



Re: CSRE:sipping CS all day

2002-11-11 Thread Marshall Dudley
Rod Stevenson wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Jdownmaine apea...@midcoast.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:01 PM
 Subject: CSRE:sipping CS all day

  I agree with the premise of treating aggressively, and 16 oz a day of 10
 ppm
  CS seems fine,
  BUT please note that it should be taken on an empty stomach unless you are
  interested in
  Killing the intestinal flora and fauna too.
  Judy Down Maine.

 I thought the general opinion was that intestinal flora remained largely
 unaffected by taking CS under normal circumstances. As I remember (from
 speaking to various promoters and 'gen men' last year) the concensus was/is?
 that it won't usually get much further than the first couple of feet of the
 small intestine.
 The other point, is about the above mentioned fauna. CS kills parasitic
 worms? Sure?

I don't think so.  Perhaps she is speaking of the protozoa.

Marshall


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Re: CSDW

2002-11-11 Thread Ode Coyote
 Probably because it's required on every consumable.
There's even a date on wrapped slices of American Cheeze and that stuff is immortal!
I have some that survived two refrigerators.

ken

At 11:51 PM 11/9/02 EST, you wrote: 

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Re: CSRE:sipping CS all day

2002-11-11 Thread Ode Coyote
 Might have that backwards?

CS does little unless it is liquid, so, on a full stomach would tend to
immobilize the CS in the intestine.

CS works well on dysentary etc because there's nothing in there to
immobilize it anymore.
Ken


At 12:01 PM 11/10/02 -0500, you wrote:
I agree with the premise of treating aggressively, and 16 oz a day of 10 ppm
CS seems fine,
BUT please note that it should be taken on an empty stomach unless you are
interested in
Killing the intestinal flora and fauna too.
Judy Down Maine
It would certainly not hurt anything to give it a try..I would be very
agressive with something like this and drink 16 oz a day.  A little all day
long.  Give it a trial for about 6 weeks and let us all know if there is any
improvement.  How else will we ever now??: If it wont' hurt IT MAY HELP
- Original Message -
From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?


   I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering
if
 CS IV or enemas might be of help. I don't have it but a longtime
aquaintance
 of mine recently died while waiting for a liver transpant. The underlying
 cause of her liver failure was celiac disease, which had gone undiagnosed
 for many years because she was overweight and so didn't fit the
conventional
 diagnosis profile. Given the damage that celiac causes, it would be a
wonder
 if there weren't all sorts of complicating infections present in the
 intestines.
 paula
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 From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com


  I totally agree with a lot of your statements.  I am sure cases are
caused
  by Mycoplasma.  But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue
 in
  America.  Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from
 the
  bread allergy.  Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease.  Which CS
will
 do
  jack squat for.





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CSRe: CS, Mycoplasma, Arthritis, CFS Fybromyalgia

2002-11-11 Thread Stephen Summers
Dear Members

Here is an extract from a report by the Health Sciences Institute in South 
Africa.

MYCOPLASMAS: TINY MICRO-ORGANISMS THAT COULD BE CAUSING YOUR ARTHRITIS

Mycoplasmas are tiny micro-organisms, even smaller than bacteria. They are 
commonly found in the saliva and mucous membranes of the mouth or nose, and 
they; werre once dismissed as relatively harmless organisms. However, we now 
know that mycoplasmas can penetrate into your blood cells, where they are far 
from harmless. Your painful joints could be caused by a systemic infection of 
this tiny micro-organism. Researchers have made the surprising discovery that 
mycoplasmal infections occur in approximately half of the patients with certain 
chronic diseases - including arthritis.

HOW TO GET TESTED

Although its relatively simple to test for mycoplasmas on mucosal surfaces like 
the mouth, once they get inside cells connventional antibody tests are usually 
useless, and they are extremely dificlut to culture.

Fortunately, a newly developed and specialised test, called a forensic PCR-DNA, 
is able to detect fragments of mycoplasmas insdie the white blood cells. the 
white blood cells scavenge those pieces as they clean up debris in the tissues 
and blood. If the DNA of a mycoplasma is found in your white blood cells, an 
active infection exists.

A NATURAL APPROACH

So what can you do if you test positive for mycoplasmal infection? Darryl See 
has been treating patients with such infections for several years at the Centre 
for Special Immunology and also at the Chronic Fatigue Sundrome and 
Fybromyalgia Clinic at UC Irvine in the US, which he co-directs.

In his own practice, Dr See has observed that patients' PCR-DNA tests can turn 
from positive to negative with the use of colloidal silver.

You can also use selenium and oxygen supplements to cobat a mycoplasmal 
infection, both of which are widely available. A recommended dose of 200 to 400 
micrograms of selenium as a dietary supplements has been shown to arrest the 
growth of the invaders. Also, because mycoplasmas prefer an environment low in 
oxygen, providing extra oxygen through magnesium-peroxide supplements will 
inhbit their growth.

The research on the mycoplasmal/arthritis connection has just begun - but it's 
already clear that these mysterious creatures play an important role in 
arthritis. If mycoplasmas are attacking your joints, eliminating them from your 
system may help yoiu beat arthritis for good.

References:
Emerging and Infectious Diseases. vol. 3 no. 1 pp.21-32, 1997
JAMA, vol 273, pp 618-619. 1995
G. and N. Nicholson, Written testimony at the Committee on Government Reform 
and Oversight, Subcommittee on Human Resource and Intergovernmental Relations, 
United States House of Representatives, June 26, 1997.


Re: CSSinus advice 101

2002-11-11 Thread Ode Coyote
  My personal take on immune system is that it needs to work to stay strong.
The point of taking CS is not to replace the immune system but to assist it when it's having trouble keeping up.
Ken


At 03:20 PM 11/10/02 -0800, you wrote: 

11/8/02 12:37 PM mand...@aol.com

I received my mail-order CS yesterday and started the nasal drops as
> instructed Mesosilver website.  Today I seem better already.  Should  I
> also take the CS as a dietary supplement?  My immune system is
> apparently not the greatest.
> 
> Any advice or referrals to print or internet information will be
> appreciated.
> 
*

Your active, uncompromised immune system is the 
greatest source of your ongoing good health, ignore it
at your own risk.
I won't go into a lot about the subject here, but go to:

http://www.coastherbal.com/BetaGlucan.htm

for a great deal of information about Beta Glucan,
and then try price shopping using Google.

You will be well rewarded with improved good 
health.

Jack   




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Re: CSe-book: THE COLLAPSE OF CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE

2002-11-11 Thread TJ Garland
I can't get any links to work on the page.  Any click freezes my computer.  
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CSSilver/Glass

2002-11-11 Thread Rod Stevenson
I seem to remember a thread awhile back about silver being woven into
fabric, added to resin or clay etc. Here's something I found today that may
interest some of you.

http://www.marubeni-sunnyvale.com/anti_bacterial_additives_ionpure.html

Regards
Rod


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CSRe: sipping CS all day

2002-11-11 Thread DARocksMom

In a message dated 11/11/02 11:09:28 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
writes:

 CS kills parasitic worms? Sure?
 

Garlic does it for sure!

Jane


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CSVirtual Naval Hospital

2002-11-11 Thread jrowland
http://www.vnh.org/

Virtual Naval Hospital(TM) is a service of the U.S. Navy Bureau of Medicine 
and Surgery and is presented by the Electric Differential Multimedia 
Laboratory, University of Iowa College of Medicine.

Interesting tool; several silver references.
jr




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Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

2002-11-11 Thread sol
  Several people somewhat misread my question. Oh, well. I understand what
celiac is and that it is genetic, and that celiacs cannot ingest gluten in
any form.
   My question was whether CS might not help any concurrent infections in
the intestines? Because of the damage celiac disease causes, it would seem
to me a miracle if the damaged villi and intestinal walls were not subject
to all manner of opportunistic infections, such as candida.
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Re: CSWhere are we from [HyperScan 1.7]

2002-11-11 Thread Helen
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Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM

2002-11-11 Thread Jack Dayton
11/10/02 4:56 AM Gaston

 Hi Mike,
 
 I see that you are taking some MSM. I am also taking some MSM, but I seem to
 have noticed a difference between a crystal
 (flake) and powder MSM type.
 
 The first container of MSM that I have purchased appeared to be a small
 crystal (flake) type and had increased my level
 of vigor also. However, the latest containers that I purchased were in the
 powder type and do not appear to do anything.
 The reason for the change in the purchase, is that I cannot obtain the crystal
 type anymore locally.


You can find MSM flakes at:

 http://www.arthritis-msm-supplements.com/msm_capsules_crystals_powder_
products.htm

also check out:

http://www.msm-msm.com/

I recently bought MSM powder online at:

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/

They are a very reliable supplier

Jack


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Re: CSBrain Barrier ( Other Animals )

2002-11-11 Thread Jack Dayton
11/11/02 6:31 AM Wayne Fugitt

 Will DMSO along have any ill effect on the brain or only the material it
carries.

 I have only used CS with DMSO for a tooth ache which it helped in minutes.

 This is not a normal tooth ache as it is caused by an infection.

 The tooth has been marked for death for 5.5 years.  It is very important
for chewing trail mix   which I eat daily.

Have you considered chewing on the other side?  :-)

Jack



Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM

2002-11-11 Thread Jack Dayton
11/11/02 9:06 AM M. G. Devour

 ...the stuff I'm buying is in capsules. It's Natrol
 brand bought at Walgreen's. It seems to contain MSM from Lignisul.
 
 I notice that I don't seem to be getting quite the lift I have from the
 current course that I got when using the powder or the previous
 brand of capsules that I bought at the health food store. However,
 there's no control in this experiment, so it's hard to draw any
 conclusions!

Mike, I have MSM powder from Swanson Vitamins,
and they sell a brand  by OPTIMSM.
That and Lignisul seem to be the main suppliers.

I suggested that Gaston check :

http://www.msm-msm.com/

they sell MSM in a variety of forms,
and other esoteric stuff (only word I
could think of) at really good prices -
it seems to be their Christian ministry,
but in spite of that, they do have good prices.

Jack


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Re: CSRe: sipping CS all day

2002-11-11 Thread dblack
No, CS does not kill parasites.

Nancy...
 
  CS kills parasitic worms? Sure?
  
 
 Garlic does it for sure!
 
 Jane
 
 
 



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Re: CSDW

2002-11-11 Thread Jack Dayton

ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:
Why does my gallon of distilled water have a BEST BY date on it? Does
distilled water go bad?


11/11/02 7:19 AM Marshall Dudley

It shouldn't. Maybe it assures them that they will always sell you a gallon
or two of their product every year no matter how little you use.

Marshall 
**

Hi Marshall

My DW from Walgreens states:

PRO 02 MAR 28 17:19
EXP MAR 2004

Something must cause change in the DW.

Jack




Re: CSe-book: THE COLLAPSE OF CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE

2002-11-11 Thread Jack Dayton
11/11/02 8:41 AM TJ Garland

 I can't get any links to work on the page.  Any click freezes my computer.
 Any help?  TJ


You don't offer much info ! !

What page?

Where?
 
Is the problem just on that page?

What browser are you using?

What operating system?

Jack


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CSBrain Barrier ( Other Animals )

2002-11-11 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Jack,

Have you considered chewing on the other side?  :-)

 I have always liked high tech, but easy to understand answers.

And. Yes, I have considered that.  As you can imagine, a problem 
exists. One tooth is missing.


I don't like dentist any better than other white coat thieves.  But... 
soon I may have to

face the enemy.

Wayne


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