Re: CSWater Questions...
I came up with a virtual 1 to 1 corrospondence between PPM [ as determined by AA spec] and microsiemenes 'including' a 15% particulate count [85% ionic] in two different samples. The conductivty readings were the same between measurement devices within tenths of a microsiemen [PWT was calibrated correctly] Adding 15-20% might not always be 'the way'. Ode At 09:50 AM 4/7/2004 -0700, you wrote: Hi Mike, The PWT reads from 0-99 with stated accuracy but can actually go to 199 before going off scale. It only has one decimal point so it can't define any closer than tenths of a point. And it's microsiemens, not millisiemens. The TDS-1 is the meter that reads about half. The PWT reads directly but only the ionic portion so it also needs to have a bit added to the reading. Typically 15-20%. I hope this helps. Trem - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:44 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSWater Distilling Questions... I noted in the discussion, some have used decimals, as in .06, etc. That's for the PWT, I imagine. It does have a decimal point or two available. It'll only go up to a hundred millisiemens, I think, which roughly corresponds to a couple hundred ppm. (Something like that. I'm doing this from memory.) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver prices
Everybody: To all of you who make your own CS, silver prices have increased 58% in the last six months, with no end in sight. Better stock up while you can afford to. http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver prices
I'm going to have to raise my price on my again this weekend. It will be $17/oz. Best Regards, Arnold Beland www.abeland1.com - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:18 AM Subject: CSSilver prices Everybody: To all of you who make your own CS, silver prices have increased 58% in the last six months, with no end in sight. Better stock up while you can afford to. http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.647 / Virus Database: 414 - Release Date: 4/5/2004
CSpyo in cats
help: Sister in Law has a Maine Coon Cattery also has dog[s] fish sometimes birds, all in a fairly small home. There are top grade show critters involved. She has about 8 litter boxes. The problem is pyo. She also has problems with conjunctivitis, colds, etc. but obviously the pyo is the biggie. We are not sure of how the virus is transmitted. Sexually? Litter box? common drinking vessel? sneezing or air born? other or all the above? What to do to prevent?? Is there a place for CS here?? I would greatly appreciate feedback on this!!! davido
Re: CSpyo in cats
You could post your question to the CSCats-Dogs list, too. If you aren't a member I would be glad to crosspost if you like. paula David S Osborne wrote: help: Sister in Law has a Maine Coon Cattery also has dog[s] fish sometimes birds, all in a fairly small home. There are top grade show critters involved. She has about 8 litter boxes. The problem is pyo. She also has problems with conjunctivitis, colds, etc. but obviously the pyo is the biggie. We are not sure of how the virus is transmitted. Sexually? Litter box? common drinking vessel? sneezing or air born? other or all the above? What to do to prevent?? Is there a place for CS here?? I would greatly appreciate feedback on this!!! davido -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason
After reading Dr. Jon's website yesterday, I have to agree with you Terry. He doesn't claim to be a doctor. He claims to be a retired oncology researcher. The first I ever heard of Stephen Fason was here at this site: http://ourhealthcoop.com I ordered from them and found them very reputable. In fact, their supplements are of very high quality and the least expensive around (except for maybe Wal-Mart). They even give them away to the poor. The only similarity I see between Stephen Fason and Dr. Jon is this quirky cat marketing thing that Dr. Jon has describing his Alternative Medicine email list on Yahoo, and Fason has going on throughout his website. They also seem to live in the same area. But Dr. Jon is supposedly in his 70s and you can see from the pictures of Stephen Fason that he is a much younger man. There's also an interview with Fason you can read to see that their personalities are nothing alike. http://www.ourhealthcoop.com/about_us_COO_Perspective.html If they truly are one and the same person - well then, maybe he has Multiple Personality Disorder or something smile. Other than that, Dr. Jon seems completely harmless and even good-hearted. He certainly tries to help people. And he doesn't deserve to be slandered and bad-mouthed for that. I didn't have time to read the articles on Fason though. Did anyone else get to? If so, please let us know if those articles state that Fason and Dr. Jon are one and the same person and if they provide any evidence of that. It seems to me that this is just someone's opinion and a mistaken one at that. Thanks. Jodi silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote on 4/5/2004, 5:41 AM: Subject: CSDr. Jon Brooks Date: 4/4/2004, 12:24 PM From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com I went to Jon Brooks website - http://www.cat007.com and explored it thoroughly. Nowhere did I find any claims that he was a medical doctor. If he got a Dr. in another field, or even through a mail-order course, I don't know. But the article villifying him by Chet Day used techniques similar to those by Stephen Barret or any other anti-holistic writer. Much of what is on Brooks site is, in my opinion, legitimate. Although he uses marketing techniques I would not feel comfortable using - flamboyant phrases, over-stating benefits, lots of exclamation points - this does not, in my opinion, invalidate everything he says and does, nor does it define him as a con-artist, bent on rooking his victims. Some of the claims made by folks on this list concerning CS sound sometimes like what Jon Brooks claims. I have made some of these claims myself (Overnight Recoveries! Amazing Disappearing Infections! Dying Pets Becoming Frisky!) Hey, we have actually experienced these kind of things. Why do we go out of our way to look for bad in others? Yes, in fact, Dr. Jon Brooks may not be all that he appears. I don't know. But until I do know, from evidence, not slander, I find much on his site that is valid and beneficial to others. The fact that the IRS and Federal marshals stormed his house is actually a point in his favor - in my opinion - not evidence of his rascalness. Great Scott, don't we all know of very genuine heroes of the holistic world who have had the same thing happen to them? Didn't Hulda Clark have something like that happen to her? Hey, maybe Jon Brooks has more going for him than we realize, if he is being attacked by the powers that be like that? Anyway, my concern is about how quickly and easily we form an opinion about others based on, essentially, hearsay. Yes, Jon Brooks may be an outright crook, a con-artist supreme, but I have not seen enough to bring me to that conclusion. That's my whole two cents on this topic. Terry Chamberlin -- Jodi Waldman Menard Stoan Enterprises, Inc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDetecting Silver In The Blood
Since blood flows through and around our organs, then maybe the silver (in whatever form) does not need to go into our blood, but that the bad things in our blood need to be put where the silver is. For example, maybe there is silver in our liver and kidneys, and the bad stuff in our blood gets deposited there and then is killed, or maybe it has some type of chemical magnetism that attracts bad stuff and it kills it. Maybe the silver only goes into the blood if there are bad things, kills them, and is removed with the bad dead thing. Maybe the silver kick starts something else in us, and is not directly the only killer of bad stuff, but makes some other chemical or system work better. Does our immune system directly kill stuff, or does it bring bad stuff to some central location for killing, so that it wouldn't be necessary for our blood to hold the killer itself. Have any tests been done that literally tell of every molecule in our blood, to see what kind of things are really there? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason
I concur with the info here.Been a coop member for years. - Original Message - From: Jodi Waldman Menard jwmen...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: CSRe: Dr. Jon Stephen Fason After reading Dr. Jon's website yesterday, I have to agree with you Terry. He doesn't claim to be a doctor. He claims to be a retired oncology researcher. The first I ever heard of Stephen Fason was here at this site: http://ourhealthcoop.com I ordered from them and found them very reputable. In fact, their supplements are of very high quality and the least expensive around (except for maybe Wal-Mart). They even give them away to the poor. The only similarity I see between Stephen Fason and Dr. Jon is this quirky cat marketing thing that Dr. Jon has describing his Alternative Medicine email list on Yahoo, and Fason has going on throughout his website. They also seem to live in the same area. But Dr. Jon is supposedly in his 70s and you can see from the pictures of Stephen Fason that he is a much younger man. There's also an interview with Fason you can read to see that their personalities are nothing alike. http://www.ourhealthcoop.com/about_us_COO_Perspective.html If they truly are one and the same person - well then, maybe he has Multiple Personality Disorder or something smile. Other than that, Dr. Jon seems completely harmless and even good-hearted. He certainly tries to help people. And he doesn't deserve to be slandered and bad-mouthed for that. I didn't have time to read the articles on Fason though. Did anyone else get to? If so, please let us know if those articles state that Fason and Dr. Jon are one and the same person and if they provide any evidence of that. It seems to me that this is just someone's opinion and a mistaken one at that. Thanks. Jodi silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote on 4/5/2004, 5:41 AM: Subject: CSDr. Jon Brooks Date: 4/4/2004, 12:24 PM From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com I went to Jon Brooks website - http://www.cat007.com and explored it thoroughly. Nowhere did I find any claims that he was a medical doctor. If he got a Dr. in another field, or even through a mail-order course, I don't know. But the article villifying him by Chet Day used techniques similar to those by Stephen Barret or any other anti-holistic writer. Much of what is on Brooks site is, in my opinion, legitimate. Although he uses marketing techniques I would not feel comfortable using - flamboyant phrases, over-stating benefits, lots of exclamation points - this does not, in my opinion, invalidate everything he says and does, nor does it define him as a con-artist, bent on rooking his victims. Some of the claims made by folks on this list concerning CS sound sometimes like what Jon Brooks claims. I have made some of these claims myself (Overnight Recoveries! Amazing Disappearing Infections! Dying Pets Becoming Frisky!) Hey, we have actually experienced these kind of things. Why do we go out of our way to look for bad in others? Yes, in fact, Dr. Jon Brooks may not be all that he appears. I don't know. But until I do know, from evidence, not slander, I find much on his site that is valid and beneficial to others. The fact that the IRS and Federal marshals stormed his house is actually a point in his favor - in my opinion - not evidence of his rascalness. Great Scott, don't we all know of very genuine heroes of the holistic world who have had the same thing happen to them? Didn't Hulda Clark have something like that happen to her? Hey, maybe Jon Brooks has more going for him than we realize, if he is being attacked by the powers that be like that? Anyway, my concern is about how quickly and easily we form an opinion about others based on, essentially, hearsay. Yes, Jon Brooks may be an outright crook, a con-artist supreme, but I have not seen enough to bring me to that conclusion. That's my whole two cents on this topic. Terry Chamberlin -- Jodi Waldman Menard Stoan Enterprises, Inc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDetecting Silver In The Blood
Hi, Thora, Many of the questions you ask have been kicking around for quite a long time. One of the best summaries is the 1939 classic Argyria and the Pharmacology of Silver, by William Hill and Donald Pillsbury, Williams and Wilkins Company, Baltimore. It is basically a review and summary of all the medical literature up to 1939, after which CS began to be replaced by antibiotics. If my reading of Hill and Pillsbury is correct, not much progress ahs been made since 1939 in answering some of these questions. Pillsbury and Hill published their book with the financial support of the American Silver Producers' Project. Best regards, Matthew
RE: CSDetecting Silver In The Blood
Humans need minerals. Do scientists even know exactly how they work, what they do, how they change? If not, it may be difficult for us to figure out which part of the silver does the work, and where. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPhysician, Dr. Jon?
http://cat007.com/catalt.htm Here is a link I found while researching Rife machines. It calls Dr. Jon a physician. Jean Baugh -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDetecting Silver In The Blood
Hi, Thora, Much of the pharmocology of silver may still be unknown. For example, Meyers stated in 1922 (American Journal Of Syphilology, 7:125-144)he investigated the colloid of silver chloride in blood serum. But very little ,if any, discussion has ensued about such a colloidal system, even though it is obviously a plausible product for LVDC-EIS taken orally. Analytical techniques that might answer some of these questions are passed over without much comment - I am thinking particularly of x-ray crystallography as a method of tracking the particulates of elemental silver, silver albuminate or silver chloride dispersed in blood serum. Matthew
RE: CSDetecting Silver In The Blood
I suspect that scientists know almost nothing of what's touted in the alternative medicine field, whatever that might mean. I do know how CS has worked for me and mine. There is no better science than first hand science in this. stuff At 04:33 PM 4/8/2004 -0600, you wrote: Humans need minerals. Do scientists even know exactly how they work, what they do, how they change? If not, it may be difficult for us to figure out which part of the silver does the work, and where. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: finger method cs generation
Hi folks, I liked that one! But it reminded me of the VERY old ideas of : 1. Born with a silver spoon - was used as a bactericide 2. Ancient sailors used to put silver (what form?) in their water jars on long trips to keep it safe. Also - HOW DID this argyra idea get *so far* around the traps? I keep meeting people who even keep and take general purpose antibiotics just in case but who know about the terrible incurable effects of ingesting silver! Cheers, Himagain - a known cynic . but soon to own his own CS generator!
CSAny OZ members - help
Hi folks, Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within a hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland Sunshine Coast - 100k North of Brisbane. I am looking at importing from USA a domestic steam distiller ($99) but incredibly they want $85 to send it! My neighbour says build one! But he used to be a moonshiner. :-) I also do understand that home variety may not be as good as commercial - but looks like I might have no choice. Cheers, Himagain.
Re: CSAny OZ members - help
My neighbour says build one! But he used to be a moonshiner. :-) I also do understand that home variety may not be as good as commercial - Then it also could be better. Yours Hank - Original Message - From: John Rigby To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:34 PM Subject: CSAny OZ members - help Hi folks, Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within a hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland Sunshine Coast - 100k North of Brisbane. I am looking at importing from USA a domestic steam distiller ($99) but incredibly they want $85 to send it! My neighbour says build one! But he used to be a moonshiner. :-) I also do understand that home variety may not be as good as commercial - but looks like I might have no choice. Cheers, Himagain.
Re: CSAny OZ members - help
John Rigby wrote: Hi folks, Would you believe there are NO suppliers of Distilled water within a hundred miles of my home town?Caloundra on the Queensland Sunshine Coast - 100k North of Brisbane. Hi John, You can get Moores distilled water in any Woolworths store, and it is good, measuring 0.4 with my PWT. The price is around $3 for 5 lt. Hope that this helps. MargaretB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
