Re: CScansema and Greg Caton

[Phinneas]

  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Sunday, May 02, 2004 6:29 AM
  Subject: Re: CScansema and Greg Caton


  Hi Shirley:
   
  I should mention that I feel the same way.  I still can't find a suitable 
replacement for a few of their products.
   
  There's more going on than meets the eye with the Alpha Omega case, and woe 
to the powers that be if I yet manage to discover what it is.
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Jason
   
- Original Message - 
From: Shirley Reed 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: CScansema and Greg Caton


   I was just wondering what was happening with him.  Any idea how to 
contact him or his helpers as I can maybe help a bit financially.  He was very 
helpful to me and I think it is really shameful that he has been treated this 
way.  pj
~~  

Hi Jason, Shirley and forum,

Jayde Williams is Customer Relations Specialist for Alpha Omega Labs
  (888) 220-6780
  ja...@altcancer.com

For update, see their present web-page at:
 www.altcancer.com

NB: Warning to anyone considering ordering any Cansema products from a 
company under the name of RisingSun, or Bloodroot, run by a Mr. McAdam.  They 
will debit your credit card and send no Cansema products to you = a big 
con-job.  For details, contact AO Labs through Jayde ja...@altcancer.com

Regards,
Phinneas

Re: CSCancer and parasites

[Marie Hofman]

I got to this site by cutting and pasting??? It was very interesting.
Marie.
From: "Rowena Evans" rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSCancer and parasites 
Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 13:33:32 +0800 
 
maybe the spelling of nanaimo.A place in Canada.Not nanimo. 
 
here it is: jo...@nanaimo.ark.com 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: "missett" miss...@prodigy.net.mx 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:55 PM 
Subject: Re: CSCancer and parasites 
 
 
  Looks like a virus to me... 
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: "John Rigby" jrig...@fablor.com 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:51 AM 
  Subject: CSCancer and parasites 
  
  
   Hi folks, 
   This email address was given by someone on the list yesterday.It 
   bounced.( Digest has been deleted) 
   jo...@nanimo.ark.com: 
   Sorry, I couldn't find any host named nanimo.ark.com. (#5.1.2) 
   
   Can anyone correct it? 
   
   Ta, 
   John 
   
   
   
   
   John Rigby 
   FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com 
   ICQ 3250943 
   H.O.:Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia.GMT +10 
   WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/ 
   _ 
   
   You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com 
   (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...) 
   
  
  
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CSCS works again

[Marie Hofman]

My dog gets this funny thing ...nobody knows what it is, but when it happens I usually take her to the vet and $70 later (after giving her steroids) she would come right. Now I have a CS generator and make my own, I have dowsed her with it. What happens is ... she goes bald around her eyes, making her look quite strange and all the hair around her eyes drops out, then she gets a real bad rash under her legsand on her tummy. She goes through hell scratching etc and cant bear it, an allergy of somesort I guess. However, since dowsing with CS a couple of times a week she is looking well ... shining and beautiful,no rashno baldness around the eyes, also I put it in her drinking water. What a saving.what a relief forher.
Thanks for the silver (and for the List)
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Re: CSLife of Groups

[M. G. Devour]

John declares, then asks:
 ... I promise to only post off-topic
 stuff in the off-topic list from now on. (Well, maybe we could allow a
 *small, one line* reference to it from here, Mike?)

At times I've posted a one-line heads-up to the main list when I 
started a thread on the OT list I wanted folks to notice. That's 
certainly reasonable.

 But most of all, we need people to stop repeating full posts ad
 infinitum!

Well, yeah! But apart from the occasional reminder, there's not much we 
can do to improve people's habits.

All that's needed is a few lines of what you're responding to in order 
to give context. The worst offense is to quote an entire thread just to 
add a one line reply!

Use the delete key before you hit send, folks!

 PRESERVE THE CS LIST!

Well, it's doing okay for now!

Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CSLife of Groups

[M. G. Devour]

 Yes! please dont stop the list, I have just found it and in one week I
 have learned more than I have in the last 5 years  I feel in safe
 hands too. Marie.

Oh, don't let John's exuberance make you skiddish, Marie! We're not 
going anywhere anytime soon. So pick our brains and let us know how 
things turn out, 'kay?

Be well,

Mike D.
da list owner guy...
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus

[Ode Coyote]

  I know this is getting off topic..but but but.

I have about an acre of 80 to 100 ft tall tulip trees [poplar] right next
to the house. They do hover up there a lot.
 Thompsons is the only finish on the house...doesn't slow em down a'tall.
[They just make funny faces and keep on drilling..and I keep on filling
with silicon.  Seal em up inside the hole!]
 I'm working on the bad bee gun [BBgun?..darn, the name has been taken]
Similar to a potato cannon but shoots bird seed.
 Muzzle blast from an emptied shotgun shell works good...costs too much and
worries the neighbors if very frequent.  They only play with thier machine
guns now and then. [They have wood bees too?]  That's cool.
 Weapon of mass destruction? Pressure washer.  Cleans em right out of the sky.

WD 40 does prevent the making of Mud Dobber nests [apartment buildings].
The mud doesn't stick.  Ever been flipped off by a mud dobber?   [Well?
Go fill up a fuel line or air tool somewhere, turkey!]   LOL
 PS  Mud Dobbers are cool in some ways.  They don't sting. They catch
spiders and pack em in their holes like Dixie Cups.
 They like to hum tunes too.
..and they used to fill up wood bee holes while the bee was off to lunch.
New contract at the Union Hall?

OK, I quit now.

Ode

At 10:48 PM 5/1/2004 -0400, you wrote:
Yo Ode,

WD40 and other solvents (kerosene) (Thompson's
wood sealer) makes the wood unpalatable-able 
to the buggers. I also nail them with a BB or pellet
air gun, as they hover a lot. Dropping one in hover mode
really is satisfying. 

Someone also told me they LOVE
tulip trees, the tops of which are seen loaded with
flying carpenter bees. If you have such a tree, check
out the top of the tree where the tulipbuds are with 
binoculars. Usually there are dozens of them there.

Good luck.
Tom Bassett  WM2M


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Re: CSSugar pills and placebos (Marshall and Nenah)

[Nenah Sylver]

- Original Message - 
From: Ken  Nancy kena...@i680n.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:57 PM
Subject: CSSugar pills and placebos (Marshall and Nenah)


Was this what you are looking for???

http://www.escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m50047.html

Look up Golomb's name on the net.  She's an interesting gal.

-Ken Bagwell

=
Thank you, Ken. This is awesome information.

Nenah


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Re: CSWAS: CS works again; IS: MANGE

[Nenah Sylver]

- Original Message - 
From: Marie Hofman marie_hof...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 3:05 AM
Subject: CSCS works again


 My dog gets this funny thing ...nobody knows what it is,  but when it happens
I usually  take her to the vet and $70 later (after giving her steroids) she
would come right.  Now I have a CS generator and make my own,  I have dowsed her
with it.  What happens is ... she goes bald around her eyes,  making her look
quite strange and all the hair around her eyes drops out,  then she gets a real
bad rash under her legs and on her tummy.  She goes through hell scratching etc
and cant bear it,  an allergy of somesort I guess.  However,  since dowsing with
CS a couple of times a week she is looking well ... shining and beautiful, no
rash no baldness around the eyes,  also I put it in her drinking water.  What a
saving. what a relief for her.

 Thanks for the silver (and for the List)

 Marie.


Marie,
What you describe sounds similar to mange. See
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/mange1.html

There are different kinds of mange. All types are caused by various microscopic
mites. This suggests parasite to me. Normally, CS cannot kill multi-celled
organisms. However, this mite is microscopic. Perhaps it's small enough that the
CS could kill it.

I'd love to hear from some experienced dog people.

Best,
Nenah



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CSDemodectic Mange [was CS works again]

[Garnet]

It sounds very much like Demodectic Mange. It is caused by a mite that
is on all dogs but due to immune deficiency some dogs can not keep under
control. It is common to see a bit in young dogs whose immune systems
are still maturing but whose maternal antibodies have fallen off. It is
also know as the Red Mange. Severely impaired dogs may show it at 6-8
weeks and some do not recover.

It is very interesting if it is Demodex and CS controls it. Although it
can be difficult to isolate by skin scraping, because it burrows deep
into the skin and subdermis, this is one way to confirm. The other is by
physical exam and medical history, which is how most astute vets will
diagnose it. The not so astute resort to steroids. There are dips for it
but they are very liver toxic, be very careful if you decide to go this
route.

Ivermectin also kills the mite and is used off label by some vets for
the difficult cases orally and topically. Do not do this without knowing
how much is too much as ten times the therapeutic dose, or in collie
breeds even less, will cross the Blood Brain Barrier and kill the dog.

The other mange mite is Sarcoptic Mite and is easier to kill, it is
generally a different pattern though and a bit easier to detect on skin
scraping but both can easily be missed. Mites are not insects but
Arthropods and harder to kill than insects. Old remedies included
smothering them by coating the dog with old motor oil. yikes But if
the dog survived sometimes it worked.

The features of Demodex are the hairlessness around the eyes and the red
rash on her belly and legs. It is usually more symmetrical and Sarcoptic
is more on the body, generally, asymmetrical.

If you do decide to get a skin scraping to confirm this and CS continues
to control it please post this to the list under a subject heading of
Mange so it is easily searchable.

Steroids are not at all useful and in fact will suppress her immunity
even further. How old is she? Does she have any reason to be immune
suppressed? Is she inbred? Stressed or have other physical or
environmental immune suppressors? 

I have seen this in a whole litter of inbred puppies starting with the
hair loss around the eyes are 6 weeks of age. If I can be of further
help please feel free to email me privately if you wish.

Good Luck!

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 02:05, Marie Hofman wrote:
 My dog gets this funny thing ...nobody knows what it is,  but when it
 happens I usually  take her to the vet and $70 later (after giving her
 steroids) she would come right.  Now I have a CS generator and make my
 own,  I have dowsed her with it.  What happens is ... she goes bald
 around her eyes,  making her look quite strange and all the hair
 around her eyes drops out,  then she gets a real bad rash under her
 legs and on her tummy.  She goes through hell scratching etc and cant
 bear it,  an allergy of somesort I guess.  However,  since dowsing
 with CS a couple of times a week she is looking well ... shining and
 beautiful, no rash no baldness around the eyes,  also I put it in her
 drinking water.  What a saving. what a relief for her. 
 
 Thanks for the silver (and for the List)
 
 Marie.  
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSCS works again

[Ode Coyote]

 Could be so called 'flea allergy'. 
ie We don't know so we'll blame it on fleas so you can feel guilty enough pay us a lot and buy more flea powder.
I had a cat with that problem.

CS does help quite a bit.
I guess that healthy fleas don't itch as much.

Ode

At 07:05 AM 5/2/2004 +, you wrote: 

My dog gets this funny thing ...nobody knows what it is,  but when it happens I usually  take her to the vet and $70 later (after giving her steroids) she would come right.  Now I have a CS generator and make my own,  I have dowsed her with it.  What happens is ... she goes bald around her eyes,  making her look quite strange and all the hair around her eyes drops out,  then she gets a real bad rash under her legs and on her tummy.  She goes through hell scratching etc and cant bear it,  an allergy of somesort I guess.  However,  since dowsing with CS a couple of times a week she is looking well ... shining and beautiful, no rash no baldness around the eyes,  also I put it in her drinking water.  What a saving. what a relief for her. 

Thanks for the silver (and for the List)

Marie.  




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Re: CSCS works again

[Garnet]

Flea allergy has a typical pattern. Lots of reaction around the tail
head. And not so much hairloss aroung the eyes. Also more dermatitis,
raised, weepy and of course flea dirt.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 08:36, Ode Coyote wrote:
 Could be so called 'flea allergy'. 
 ie We don't know so we'll blame it on fleas so you can feel guilty
 enoughpay us a lot and buy more flea powder.
 I had a cat with that problem.
 
 CS does help quite a bit.
 I guess that healthy fleas don't itch as much.
 
 Ode
 
 At 07:05 AM 5/2/2004 +, you wrote: 
 
 My dog gets this funny thing ...nobody knows what it is,  but
 when ithappens I usually  take her to the vet and $70 later
 (after giving hersteroids) she would come right.  Now I have a
 CS generator and make myown,  I have dowsed her with it.  What
 happens is ... she goes baldaround her eyes,  making her look
 quite strange and all the hair aroundher eyes drops out,  then
 she gets a real bad rash under her legs and onher tummy.  She
 goes through hell scratching etc and cant bear it,  anallergy
 of somesort I guess.  However,  since dowsing with CS a couple
 oftimes a week she is looking well ... shining and beautiful,
 no rash nobaldness around the eyes,  also I put it in her
 drinking water.  What asaving. what a relief for her. 
 
 Thanks for the silver (and for the List)
 
 Marie.  
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSMS Sufferer

[David S Osborne]

I mess with 5htp cause it's avail right down the street at a fraction of
your trypto.
and also, I've had great success with it at extremely reasonable doseage
and I have
had NOOO, NADA fringe problems.

and, I have nooo problem picking it up or putting it down as appro. for
me. Just my experience...  i no claima be a spert.
davido:)

On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:31:34 -0500 Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net
writes:
 You can buy Tryptophan from www.fludan.com - why mess with 5 HTP, 
 which
 requires higher doses to get the same effect as it is further from
 Serotonin in the metabolic pathway you are trying to push.
 
 Also SAMe, DMAE and Thai Holy Basil will all elevated mood through
 serotonin.
 
 As well some hypnotists are working with raising Serotonin levels 
 and
 balancing brain chemistry through hypnotic suggestion.
 
 Garnet
 
 On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 19:21, David S Osborne wrote:
  ..good luck with the Col.Gold.
   
  5HTP may be a great alternative also. I had better luck with it 
 than
  with the gold.
  davido
   
  On Sat, 01 May 2004 18:48:19 + Marie Hofman
  marie_hof...@hotmail.com writes:
  Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave 
 off
  Fluoxetine (Prozac).  I have since been reading about
  Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people 
 have
  used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is 
 it
  that simple? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
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CSCan anyone comment on this method. what is a good tester?

[Greer202]

Hi folks, well I have gotten all the material and am ready to take the
plunge.  I am borderline type II diabetic and have a small foot infection.

here is what I am going to use to make the CS.


1. Buy a 6 volt DC transformer for about 5 clams. Better yet, pick up one at
a flea  market for fifty cents. The current doesn't matter as this method
uses less
than one ma. Regarding the size of the little wall transformer, Radio Shack
has
300 ma. and 800 ma. The maximum current our process uses is 1/2 ma. so any
will do
just fine. We are beginning to receive many reports of efficacy for all
kinds of
problems. There is no down side risk in these concentrations. One can use
four 1.5 volt flashlight batteries in series. They will last a long time.

2. Clip the connector off the end of the wire.

3. Get two alligator clips from Radio Shack for a buck.

4. Carefully separate the two wires. Strip the insulation off for about 1
inch.

5. Connect each lead to the clip.

6. You need two electrodes. Don't waste $15.00 for 1/4 oz. pieces of silver
wire.

Go to a any coin store and buy two Canadian Maple Leafs for about $6.50 ea.
Each

has 1.2 oz. of . pure silver, enough to make more CS than you will ever
use.

7. Buy a gallon of distilled water for about seventy cents.

8. Buy a tiny fish tank bubbler machine for about eight bucks. They will
have the
neoprene tubing as well. You will need about two feet.

9. Be sure the coin is squeaky clean. Clamp them to opposite sides of an 8
oz.
glass of distilled water.

10. Place the tubing to the bottom of the glass.

11. Fill the glass with distilled water ONLY up to the bottom of the clips.
One

does not want the metal, from the clips, in contact with the water, only the
coins.

12. Plug in the little transformer and oxygenation machine.

13. Run for about five hours.

14. Carefully remove the coins. There will be residue on them and you don't
want
that in the solution. For even more purity, use the neoprene tubing and
siphon the
solution into a clean glass/or plastic container. (In these parts a siphon
hose is
referred to as an Arkansas credit card.)

15. Keep the CS out of sunlight in an air tight bottle.

16. Clean the coins thoroughly preparing for the next batch.

Now you have high quality CS in about 5 PPM. Some scoundrels claim their CS
is
100-800 PPM. This is rubbish. At such concentrations the particles would
agglomerate forming much larger particles. Basic chemistry.

Last night I spoke with Frank Key, the scientist who owns the laboratory. He
observed, You have stumbled on to a fine way to make CS. He did state that
the potency would diminish over time and suggested that one make a new batch
every fortnight. Considering that costs you nothing it makes sense.
He said the secret was the low voltage and the fish pump. I thought it was
due to more oxygen in the water. He stated it was because of the
introduction of
carbon dioxide, explaining in chemical terms which were over my head. The
fish pump
is 100% vital to the process.


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CSMemories of Apples

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning JOH,


Apples
Material safety data sheet


   I have always thought highly of apples.

   When I was in my 20's and 30's I traveled every day.  Often I drove 800 
to 1000 miles per week.

One week, I drove 2000 miles from Monday AM until Friday PM.

The story about apples..

Somehow, I developed a case of diarrhea.   This is bad enough when you are 
at home.  On the road, something has to be done.


So,.. I told myself,  Something has to be done about this.   I 
spotted a roadside fruit stand.


Guess what I bought?

One large bag of apples and one large bag of green peanuts.I hit the 
road and started alternating between munching an apple and eating green 
peanuts.


Sure enough, the diarrhea stopped and I did not have to hunt a rest room 
for two days.


Glory be !   Can anyone offer the theory?  We would have to call that, 
Alternative Medicine.

I have not a clue how I made the decision to use those two foods.

During those years, I was a true workaholic.  Some days I would leave the 
office at 5 PM, go home and change clothes, hit the road and do service 
calls all night.


One memorable week, I did not go to bed from Monday AM until Thurs night at 
midnight.

Was up at 3 AM and drove 100 miles for my first Friday call at 6 am.

I proved beyond any doubt that the 3 old rules for good health,  Sleep, 
Nutrition, and Exercise was not true.   I always said Nutrition is # 1, #2, 
and #3.


During that one week, I did not say I did not sleep all week. I would catch 
a nap on the desk or in my car, usually short ones.


I think the key to my health during those years was the fact that I stopped 
at grocery stores for lunch instead of restaurants.  I always keept protein 
tablets and desiccated liver tablets in my vehicle, as well as raw 
sunflower seeds.   Too heck with regular food.  That is what makes us sick 
and gives us diarrhea.


During those years, I did some exercise such as lifting weights and 
running.  Often, late at night, I would find a landmark, drive one mile, 
park my van and run to the landmark and back.


I did a lot of things wrong during those years, but I must have done a few 
things right. I have beat the American odds by 10 million to one.


Almost forgot, I have picked apples in commercial orchards in Wisconsin.

My favorite apple,  the Arkansas Black.   Fantastic, it tastes like it 
has cinnamon and spice already embedded.  This is a late ripening variety, 
and I would pick the remaining apples the night of the first freeze.   My 
tree is now deceased.


Wayne

Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages

[Sharon]

Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd 
like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with 
allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? 
I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize 
the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her 
with.

TIA for any ideas.
PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes 
due to CS if there were any.

Sharon



Hi,

We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a
preventive measure.  He's still the original color.

Trem


- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages



 First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never

been

 known to cause it in anyone or anything.  In fact theory predicts that

true

 CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would

have

 caused it otherwise.

 But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a
 dead horse should be easy to make.

 I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and
 changed fairly often would be a good start.  Also the addition of some

DMSO

 to the mix would also likely assist.

 Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only

part

 of the story.  The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing
 without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to
 revert back to stem cells.

 Marshall

 Garnet wrote:

  I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are
  very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many
  are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be
  easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud
  Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting
  this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how
  this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep
  Herders reacts to this product.
 
  Garnet
 
  ~
 
  Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap.
 
  Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of
  medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are
  designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, abrasions
  and other open wounds without the use of drugs.
 
  The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an
  over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is
  cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be disposed
  of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and can
  be cut to fit.
 
  Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims for
  years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented',
  says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin
  Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial properties
  for up to 28 days.'
 
  Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by sixteen
  inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad.
 
  Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 44401; (800)
  544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com.
 
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Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages

[Garnet]

Yes MSM would be good for the pony. 2 Tablespoons twice a day, 4 T a day
is not a high dose, if the effect is not enough with 2-4 go higher.
Humans can take 2-8 grams a day so by weight a pony can take much more,
probably 7 times that. It takes about a month to see an effect so be
patient.

I give it to my pony and horses. Seameal from www.solidgoldhealth.com is
also excellent as well as Black Oil Sunflower seeds with the hull for
trace minerals and macro minerals that are very important to health. Do
not use the grey stripe seeds as the hulls are not water soluble fiber
and not as good. Buy the BOSS for wild birds. Wal Mart has them for a
good price in 25# bags.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 11:10, Sharon wrote:
 Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd 
 like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with 
 allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? 
 I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize 
 the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her 
 with.
 TIA for any ideas.
 PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes 
 due to CS if there were any.
 Sharon
 
 
 Hi,
 
 We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a
 preventive measure.  He's still the original color.
 
 Trem
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM
 Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
 
 
   First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never
 been
   known to cause it in anyone or anything.  In fact theory predicts that
 true
   CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would
 have
   caused it otherwise.
 
   But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a
   dead horse should be easy to make.
 
   I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and
   changed fairly often would be a good start.  Also the addition of some
 DMSO
   to the mix would also likely assist.
 
   Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only
 part
   of the story.  The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing
   without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood clot to
   revert back to stem cells.
 
   Marshall
 
   Garnet wrote:
 
I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are
very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many
are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be
easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud
Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting
this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how
this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep
Herders reacts to this product.
   
Garnet
   
~
   
Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap.
   
Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of
medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps are
designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, abrasions
and other open wounds without the use of drugs.
   
The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an
over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is
cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be disposed
of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and can
be cut to fit.
   
Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims for
years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented',
says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin
Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial properties
for up to 28 days.'
   
Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by sixteen
inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad.
   
Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 44401; (800)
544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com.
   
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Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages

[sol]

My jar of Su-Per MSM Ultra Pure from KVvet supply says 1 heaping scoop 
(jar is unopened so I don't know how big the scoop is) equals 10,000 mg 
MSM. Directions say for the first 2 weeks feed 1 heaping scoop twice 
daily for each 1,000 lb of body weight. Then follow with 1 heaping scoop 
daily (still per 1,000 lbs body weight one believes) as a maintenance 
dosage.

HTH,
paula

Sharon wrote:

Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like 
to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and 
if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS 
too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never 
got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with.

TIA for any ideas.
PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes 
due to CS if there were any.

Sharon



Hi,

We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of 
years as a

preventive measure.  He's still the original color.

Trem


- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages


 First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has 
never


been


 known to cause it in anyone or anything.  In fact theory predicts that


true


 CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would


have


 caused it otherwise.

 But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse 
and a

 dead horse should be easy to make.

 I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and
 changed fairly often would be a good start.  Also the addition of some


DMSO


 to the mix would also likely assist.

 Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only


part

 of the story.  The other part is that the ionic portion promotes 
healing
 without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood 
clot to

 revert back to stem cells.

 Marshall

 Garnet wrote:

  I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are
  very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but 
many
  are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and 
will be

  easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud
  Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting
  this information there this morning. It will be interesting to 
see how

  this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep
  Herders reacts to this product.
 
  Garnet
 
  ~
 
  Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap.
 
  Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of
  medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these 
wraps are
  designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, 
abrasions

  and other open wounds without the use of drugs.
 
  The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or 
without an

  over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is
  cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be 
disposed
  of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes 
and can

  be cut to fit.
 
  Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn 
victims for
  years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was 
invented',

  says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin
  Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial 
properties

  for up to 28 days.'
 
  Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by 
sixteen

  inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad.
 
  Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 
44401; (800)

  544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com.
 
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Silver.

 
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CSYes - but...

[John Rigby]

Hi folks,
Just realised - I don't even read more than 10% of the Newsletters/Groups I 
subscribe to, but CS?
Actually I never know what new things I'll learn  here - mostly 
off-topic... :-{ so, I read them all, even the totally off-planet.

It's only the repetition  that gets to me, even of my own Great Stuff.

What a great job, Mike!  You are worth the 300 grand a year salary you make 
outta this.. :-)

But *I* still wouldn't do it.

Cheers,
Himagain.

CSThanks for the help.

[John Rigby]

Hi folks,
850  articles later, mostly beginning referred from here,  I now have what 
seems like a Basic Health Recovery System:
I make CS - not fancy - Just the original Maple design.   (3-10 ppm?)  6v 
DC x 1t x 5hours ( at 6.5 it coloured a little)
I now have 35% Pharmacy Grade H202 - 2 drops per 8 oz glass  as an oral 
saturation rinse.
Both tolerated that easily.   However as we live the Cancervivor lifestyle 
plus some, this would have a big effect.  You can't get much cleaner 
internally.


My control in our programme ( VERY normal:  5 colds/flu p.a. 
carnivore,  eater-outer, typically very modern  half our age so, very sick 
- diagnosed CFS - or something - getting worse like most people) .Got 
quite off from even straight   CS  ( 2 tablespoons) and  more so 
from  CS+H202


We are ( mate  I) now into the new regime - day 1.
She has severe toxemia from old amalgum removal, current mouth/gum 
infection since another Root Canal ( before education in them!) some months 
ago. Quite debilitated functioning at about 20% life level.
I am old Cancervivor - 20 yrs plus from dual Terminal Mestasised 
Cancers.  Both believed to be Industrial, not self-induced.  Highly toxic 
system still.  Function at about same level 20%. ( But not dead!)


Will report occasionally for benefit of other newbies - especially re Herx 
effects.


Cheers!

John





John Rigby
FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com
ICQ 3250943
H.O.:  Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia.  GMT +10
WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/
_

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(it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...)

Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages

[Garnet]

See MSM The Definitive guide for the reference dose for humans being
between 2-8 grams a day. Under supervision 40-60 grams per day has been
used in divided doses. And up to 200 g a day in IV use. for allergies
the typical dose is 3-6 g.

60-500 mg/kg is referenced as an animal dose in horses and dogs. Also
recommendations of 30 g per day in horses. The higher doses are split
into two doses and fed with food. For a 600 lb pony the dosage based on
the former would be 18-36 grams per day in two divided doses with feed.

The author Stanley Jacob MD is the developer for DMSO use in organ
transport and health. He and his partner Robert Hershler PhD developed
MSM. The book is available from Amazon and summarizes the current
research Cr 2003.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 15:55, sol wrote:
 My jar of Su-Per MSM Ultra Pure from KVvet supply says 1 heaping scoop 
 (jar is unopened so I don't know how big the scoop is) equals 10,000 mg 
 MSM. Directions say for the first 2 weeks feed 1 heaping scoop twice 
 daily for each 1,000 lb of body weight. Then follow with 1 heaping scoop 
 daily (still per 1,000 lbs body weight one believes) as a maintenance 
 dosage.
 HTH,
 paula
 
 Sharon wrote:
 
  Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd like 
  to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with allergies, and 
  if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony? I'm giving her CS 
  too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize the CS but never 
  got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her with.
  TIA for any ideas.
  PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes 
  due to CS if there were any.
  Sharon
 
 
  Hi,
 
  We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of 
  years as a
  preventive measure.  He's still the original color.
 
  Trem
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM
  Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
 
 
   First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has 
  never
 
  been
 
   known to cause it in anyone or anything.  In fact theory predicts that
 
  true
 
   CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would
 
  have
 
   caused it otherwise.
 
   But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse 
  and a
   dead horse should be easy to make.
 
   I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and
   changed fairly often would be a good start.  Also the addition of some
 
  DMSO
 
   to the mix would also likely assist.
 
   Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only
 
  part
 
   of the story.  The other part is that the ionic portion promotes 
  healing
   without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a blood 
  clot to
   revert back to stem cells.
 
   Marshall
 
   Garnet wrote:
 
I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are
very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but 
  many
are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and 
  will be
easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud
Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting
this information there this morning. It will be interesting to 
  see how
this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep
Herders reacts to this product.
   
Garnet
   
~
   
Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap.
   
Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of
medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these 
  wraps are
designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, 
  abrasions
and other open wounds without the use of drugs.
   
The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or 
  without an
over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is
cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be 
  disposed
of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes 
  and can
be cut to fit.
   
Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn 
  victims for
years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was 
  invented',
says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin
Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial 
  properties
for up to 28 days.'
   
Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by 
  sixteen
inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad.
   
Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 
  44401; (800)
544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com.
   
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  Silver.
   
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Re: CSThanks for the help.

[Garnet]

My health took a huge leap forward when I had a root canal tooth removed
from my mouth. It had been there 20 years and had a split root. I was
put on the Wilson's syndrome protocol and did not need the
supplementation. The first day it made me bounce off the walls at the
lowest dose, also made the tooth blow out so I discovered that it was
indeed making me toxic. 

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 18:29, John Rigby wrote:
 Hi folks,
 850  articles later, mostly beginning referred from here,  I now have
 what seems like a Basic Health Recovery System:
 I make CS - not fancy - Just the original Maple design.   (3-10
 ppm?)  6v DC x 1t x 5hours ( at 6.5 it coloured a little) 
 I now have 35% Pharmacy Grade H202 - 2 drops per 8 oz glass  as an
 oral saturation rinse.
 Both tolerated that easily.   However as we live the Cancervivor
 lifestyle plus some, this would have a big effect.  You can't get much
 cleaner internally.  
 
 My control in our programme ( VERY normal:  5 colds/flu p.a.
 carnivore,  eater-outer, typically very modern  half our age so, very
 sick - diagnosed CFS - or something - getting worse like most
 people) .Got quite off from even straight   CS  ( 2 tablespoons)
 and  more so from  CS+H202 
 
 We are ( mate  I) now into the new regime - day 1.  
 She has severe toxemia from old amalgum removal, current mouth/gum
 infection since another Root Canal ( before education in them!) some
 months ago. Quite debilitated functioning at about 20% life level. 
 I am old Cancervivor - 20 yrs plus from dual Terminal Mestasised
 Cancers.  Both believed to be Industrial, not self-induced.  Highly
 toxic system still.  Function at about same level 20%. ( But not
 dead!) 
 
 Will report occasionally for benefit of other newbies - especially re
 Herx effects.
 
 Cheers! 
 
 John
 
  

 
 
 
 John Rigby
 FABLOR Internet Marketing Systems http://fablor.com
 ICQ 3250943   
 H.O.:  Caloundra, S.E. Queensland, Australia.  GMT +10 
 WHERE??? www.caloundratourism.com.au/
 _
 
 You think I'm paranoid? READ THIS: mailto:mondayi...@fablor.com 
 (it's ok - it's just an autoresponder I think...) 


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Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus

[Charles Sutton]

Our citrus tree had black spots on the leaves, and the leaves were curling
up.  I sprayed all the infected leaves one time with 10ppm CS and that took
care of it!

I did read on this list that CS would kill bees.

- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus



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Re: CSWAS: CS works again; IS: MANGE

[Charles Sutton]

I kill them with a couple of garlic bulbs blended and strained and put in a
sprayer.  I just spray the dog and bedding and anywhere the dog hangs out.
The garlic smell dissipates in a few minutes and the mites only last a day
or two after that.

I give them silver as their drinking water anytime we go to a dog show or
where there are a lot of other dogs.   don't have sickies any more.

- Original Message - 
From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: CSWAS: CS works again; IS: MANGE


 - Original Message - 
 From: Marie Hofman marie_hof...@hotmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 3:05 AM
 Subject: CSCS works again


  My dog gets this funny thing ...nobody knows what it is,  but when it
happens
 I usually  take her to the vet and $70 later (after giving her steroids)
she
 would come right.  Now I have a CS generator and make my own,  I have
dowsed her
 with it.  What happens is ... she goes bald around her eyes,  making her
look
 quite strange and all the hair around her eyes drops out,  then she gets a
real
 bad rash under her legs and on her tummy.  She goes through hell
scratching etc
 and cant bear it,  an allergy of somesort I guess.  However,  since
dowsing with
 CS a couple of times a week she is looking well ... shining and beautiful,
no
 rash no baldness around the eyes,  also I put it in her drinking water.
What a
 saving. what a relief for her.
 
  Thanks for the silver (and for the List)
 
  Marie.


 Marie,
 What you describe sounds similar to mange. See
 http://www.canismajor.com/dog/mange1.html

 There are different kinds of mange. All types are caused by various
microscopic
 mites. This suggests parasite to me. Normally, CS cannot kill
multi-celled
 organisms. However, this mite is microscopic. Perhaps it's small enough
that the
 CS could kill it.

 I'd love to hear from some experienced dog people.

 Best,
 Nenah



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CSOde: how to get rid of wood boring bumblebees!

[daddybob]

This gets 'em every time!
Identify live used holes during the day.
Right after dark, shoot the holes full of Goof Off
in a spray can. Listen for the buzz of death.
Do this every year, it takes a while for all the
descendants to stop coming to the same spot to spawn,
not to mention that new ones prefer existing holes to
breed in. And yes, the caulking gun is good to use on
a dead hole. Polyurethane is particularly distasteful
to them. 
Daddybob


 Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 06:43:47 -0400
 From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus
 
   I know this is getting off topic..but but but.
 
 I have about an acre of 80 to 100 ft tall tulip
 trees [poplar] right next
 to the house. They do hover up there a lot.
  Thompsons is the only finish on the house...doesn't
 slow em down a'tall.
 [They just make funny faces and keep on
 drilling..and I keep on filling
 with silicon.  Seal em up inside the hole!]
  I'm working on the bad bee gun [BBgun?..darn, the
 name has been taken]
 Similar to a potato cannon but shoots bird seed.
  Muzzle blast from an emptied shotgun shell works
 good...costs too much and
 worries the neighbors if very frequent.  They only
 play with thier machine
 guns now and then. [They have wood bees too?] 
 That's cool.
  Weapon of mass destruction? Pressure washer. 
 Cleans em right out of the sky.
 
 WD 40 does prevent the making of Mud Dobber nests
 [apartment buildings].
 The mud doesn't stick.  Ever been flipped off by a
 mud dobber?   [Well?
 Go fill up a fuel line or air tool somewhere,
 turkey!]   LOL
  PS  Mud Dobbers are cool in some ways.  They don't
 sting. They catch
 spiders and pack em in their holes like Dixie Cups.
  They like to hum tunes too.
 ..and they used to fill up wood bee holes while the
 bee was off to lunch.
 New contract at the Union Hall?
 
 OK, I quit now.
 
 Ode
 
 At 10:48 PM 5/1/2004 -0400, you wrote:
 Yo Ode,
 
 WD40 and other solvents (kerosene) (Thompson's
 wood sealer) makes the wood unpalatable-able 
 to the buggers. I also nail them with a BB or
 pellet
 air gun, as they hover a lot. Dropping one in
 hover mode
 really is satisfying. 
 
 Someone also told me they LOVE
 tulip trees, the tops of which are seen loaded with
 flying carpenter bees. If you have such a tree,
 check
 out the top of the tree where the tulipbuds are
 with 
 binoculars. Usually there are dozens of them there.
 
 Good luck.
 Tom Bassett  WM2M
 







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CSCan anyone comment on this method. what is a good tester?

[LIM_Chin_Seong]

Return Receipt
   
Your  CSCan anyone comment on this method.  what is a good
document  tester?  
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was   Chin Seong LIM/IDA/SINGOV
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Re: CSunusual posting

[PETER MOORE]

cancer cure if cs is not good enough is multi-rife freq. generator from 
www.alchemist.com cost ,but many other uses as makes cs and test water cost 
usd.900 but worth more.peter moore

Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote:   Dear, dear list members.   I want to 
express my affection and gratitude to this list.  I am a 63 year old woman who 
has cancer.  I decided this on the basis of my reaction to the cansema salve.  
I have it in various places.  However, I am feeling so good these days that I 
don't really give it much thought.  Feel better than I have in many years.  
Being realistic, I don't think this will last, but until it doesn't, I am so 
happy and am enjoying life so much that I am grateful to God and to the people 
on this list, as well as one or two others.  It was on this list that I first 
learned of colloidal silver.  I think it was here also that the zapper was 
spoken of so highly.  Both of these have been of such value to me.  I thank you 
all.  I have received such encouragement from so many of you and so much 
information.  Encouraging people are kinda hard to come by sometimes. :)  You 
ha! ve been wonderful.  I thank you.  Whatever and whenever the
 'customary thing with people' happens, I have had a wonderful couple of years, 
largely due to the information and encouragement I have gotten here.  I hope my 
gratitude and affection for you is complete.  I think it is.  I have chosen to 
speak now as one never knows just what the future holds.  I know my present is 
so very happy.  Best wishes to all of you.  I have tried to be part of the 
goodness on this list.  Let's all keep trying.   What you people are doing is 
wonderful.  pj


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CSFood glorious food.

[John Rigby]

Hi folks,

Wayne:   How old are you NOW?  Can you still run up a flight of stairs? :-)

Animals and strange afflictions and things:Just like people, what they 
eat is most important of all.


Every day on the beach I see people walking dogs and watch the poor things 
trying to crap those bullets or mush, that the Gourmet Doggy Food  they 
are fed create.

Just like their owners at home...

BUT I've just given a neighbour some *freshly made* !! Super-CS 
(SCS)  vis:  boosted with H202 for his poor Alsation/German Shepherd  who 
has a dreadful set of signs - like in todays list.


The mange it has?   The Vet suggested a course of preventative shots for 
God-knows-what the week before it got it.


Some months ago, he was also told his dog had displaysia - displaced hips 
common to this modified breed - I told him to feed it bones and real 
meat.  ( Interestingly, real scrap meat was cheaper than the 
super-fortified-all-new-vet-recommended-Gourmet-Dog-Food he was buying) 
and as I guessed, the dog was simply super-constipated and badly fed.  Less 
than a week it started to improve.


Cheers,

Himagain




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Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus

[Holland Simms]

The black spots are a sooty mold growing on the sugery excretia of 
aphids and or whiteflys.CS will get rid of the sooty mold and the 
aqueous portion will disrupt the 'bugs' for a while.Add a little 
detergent and a little vegitable oil together then to the cs and spray 
that.The emulsified oil will smother the aphids/whiteflies and their 
eggs.Get some masking tapee and cicle the trunk of the citrus tree and 
put a band of 'tanglefoot on the tape(never directly on the trunk)-this 
will stop ants from bringing in the aphids as ants culture aphids for 
thier sugary excretia(honeydew).When you fertillize the tree use organic 
as chemical fertillizer will attract the whitefly.The curling is because 
of the damage the aphids /whiteflys are doing to the underside of the 
leaves.The sooty mold is on the tops of leaves because s--- rolls 
downhill.look-observe-observe-observe-and then well observe some more


Bee at the top of tulip poplars are more likely to be honey bees than 
carpenter bees.Tulip poplar honey is very fine and is called Tupelo 
HoneyBoth carpenter and honey bees are valuble as crop pollinators.


Holland Simms

Our citrus tree had black spots on the leaves, and the leaves were curling
up.  I sprayed all the infected leaves one time with 10ppm CS and that took
care of it!

I did read on this list that CS would kill bees.

- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSGerms, plagues and Nostradamus



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CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?

[James Holmes]

There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits.
They developed cloudy areas in the lens.  

No one has been able to make it happen again.

Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance.

JOH

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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side?


Garnet,
  Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I 
use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and 
sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting 
DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need 
his vision impaired.
paula

Garnet wrote:

(DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to 
have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well 
it does not do this to primates or humans.





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CSRE: CSMSG- a KILLER

[James Holmes]

Over 20 years ago it was determined to create sterile lesions in the brain
of infants.
 
It sux big time. 
 
It may be disguised as several different other things, such as modified food
starch, natural flavoring, and  other terms. 
 
Do a search for exciotixions. (SP?)  Anybody know how to spell it?
 
JOH
 
 Original Message-
From: T J Garland [mailto:alch...@esper.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; Sandy . Green; Larry Mull; Larry Brown; John
Hoffman; Herb  Mary; Elisabeth Winkler; Cheryl Hill; Angie Orr; Andrew
Garland
Subject: CSMSG- a KILLER



  As bad as aspertame??
  http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm 

CSAverage Dietary Intake of Silver

[Garnet]

Some months back I posted this information and someone asked for the
referece. Average daily diet contains ~50-100 mcg of silver.

I finally got around to looking at the book again, it was at Whole Foods
in their booklet rack. 

Collidal Silver The Natural Antibiotic Alternative
by Zane BaranowskiCN
CR 1995
Healing Wisdom Publications, NY, NY
Isbn 0-9647080-1-9
pp. 12

The author references Ra Kehoe 1940 and IH Tipton 1966, but no
publication names.

Sorry it took so long. Hope who ever requested the citation is still
here.

Garnet


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Re: CSRE: CSDMSO - other side?

[Garnet]

The effect in rabbits was real. But it was proven not to occur in
primates or humans.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 22:31, James Holmes wrote:
 There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits.
 They developed cloudy areas in the lens.  
 
 No one has been able to make it happen again.
 
 Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance.
 
 JOH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:26 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSDMSO - other side?
 
 
 Garnet,
   Can you point me to any details about the ocular effects in rabbits? I 
 use a little DMSO in my nebulizing and ear drop mix for my bunny, and 
 sure don't want to hurt his eyes. Were those tests done actually putting 
 DMSO into the eyes? My little guy is deaf, so he certainly doesn't need 
 his vision impaired.
 paula
 
 Garnet wrote:
 
 (DMSO) It was banned for human use when it was found in the 60's to 
 have ocular effects in rabbits, the standard lab model for eyes. Well 
 it does not do this to primates or humans.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRE: CSMSG- a KILLER

[Garnet]

Excitotoxin

MSG is not good stuff. Found to interfere with the development of the
hypothalamus in babies so they took it out of baby food. Now those
babies that were raised on it are young adults. 

Many are allergic to MSG, gives me intestinal cramps and an immeidiate
headache.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 22:31, James Holmes wrote:
 Over 20 years ago it was determined to create sterile lesions in the
 brain of infants.
  
 It sux big time. 
  
 It may be disguised as several different other things, such as
 modified food starch, natural flavoring, and  other terms. 
  
 Do a search for exciotixions. (SP?)  Anybody know how to spell it?
  
 JOH
  
  Original Message-
 From: T J Garland [mailto:alch...@esper.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:32 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com; Sandy . Green; Larry Mull; Larry Brown;
 John Hoffman; Herb  Mary; Elisabeth Winkler; Cheryl Hill; Angie Orr;
 Andrew Garland
 Subject: CSMSG- a KILLER
 
 
   As bad as aspertame??
   http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm


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CSDMSO - other side? 35% in the Eyes

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening JOH,


There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits.
They developed cloudy areas in the lens.


   I accidently  filled one of my spray bottles which I use for both nose 
and eyes with a 35% DMSO solution.


  It does produce an unusual sensation when sprayed into the nose.

  The burning of the eyes is minor, so much in fact that I used it again 
for the eyes.


   I have no problems with nose or eyes.   I keep a spray bottle with me 
when working and use this a few times per day in case some stray bacteria 
try to set up housekeeping where I don't want them.


  Plus, I just might kill a real bad strain one day. Should I change the 
DMSO to a lower concentration?


  The bottle was clearly labeled,   35 % DMSO.   A nice printed label at 
that.   Most of the time I read the labels.


  Wayne


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Re: CSFood glorious food.

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening John,


Wayne:   How old are you NOW?  Can you still run up a flight of stairs? :-)
Yes, of course.  Two or three flights, maybe not 8 or  10.Current 
age, 65.5
I have no back problems and still lift anything I am strong enough to 
lift.  A year or two ago I was helping my son load some cross ties on a 
trailer.   After it was over, I realized this was a good test for my 
back.  If I had any weak disks, this would have tested them very effectively.


   I can still work 24 to 30 hours straight.  I tell all my younger 
friends, If you can't work 24 hours, you are not healthy.   Many people 
tell me they cannot work 24 hours straight.  Likely I could still do 36 to 
40.  Have not done this test lately.


  Every day on the beach I see people walking dogs and watch the poor 
things trying to
  crap those bullets or mush, that the Gourmet Doggy Food  they are 
fed create.


  I try to take care of my dog. I give her filtered water with 
CS.  Also feed her raw eggs, raw milk, turkey necks and whole raw 
chicken,  plus vitamin supplements.  When she got sick once, I gave her the 
same vitamins I take.  I was mixing powdered vitamins with water and 
pouring them down her.



Here are a few pictures of some of my wild and domestic food.

I found the blooms so pretty, I had to make a few pictures.

The ones that got my attention was the wild huckleberries.   I have a 
number of bushes, two of which are full bloom.  It is interesting the 
others have set fruit and I am eating them daily.


I noticed the blackberries to be the same.  Some have lost their blooms and 
have small berries, while others are still in full flower.


Of course I planted early, mid season, and late blueberries which gives me 
near two full months of blueberry harvest.


http://www.fugitt.com/files/berry0428/   ( all pictures here )

This one with the name, 
http://www.fugitt.com/files/berry0428/blueberry_one_half.JPG
One half, only shows about half the bush.  Originally, I had 450 
bushes.  One tornado transplanted a few into a neighbors field, and a few 
have bit the dirt for other reasons.  I planted this field in 1980.


The Mulberries are the best and sweetest of all berries, and they get ripe 
early.
The pictures do not show this well, but some are red already.  They change 
from green to red and then blue.   Wild critters get more mulberries than I do.


Finally, you will see a few beehives required to pollinate melons, peas, 
wildflowers, and most berry crops.


It is interesting that honey bees don't work the blueberries.  It is bumble 
bees that do most of the pollination of the blueberries.


I did not reduce the resolution of these pictures.  Average 350 to 500 K.

Wayne

CSCS and GNC Stores

[jrowland]

ALPINE, UT, March 29, 2004  
American Biotech Labs (ABL), a private company in which Clifton owns a
28.5% interest, 
has signed a contract to supply GNC [5,500 stores]with a silver
supplement product 
under ABL's Silver Biotics label...
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040329/ca168_1.html
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Re: CSDMSO - other side? 35% in the Eyes

[Garnet]

DMSO Nature's Healer has significant coverage of the use in eyes for
cataracts, macular degeneration, reitinitis pigmentosa and for
preservation of eyeballs in freezing.

Other ACAM (American College of Advancement in Medicine) physicians
told of instilling one drop of a solution consisting of 25 mg DMSO with
2 cc of superoxide dismutase (SOD) once or twice a day for clearing
cataracts and glaucoma. pp68

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 22:50, Wayne Fugitt wrote:
 Evening JOH,
 
 There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits.
 They developed cloudy areas in the lens.
 
 I accidently  filled one of my spray bottles which I use for both nose 
 and eyes with a 35% DMSO solution.
 
It does produce an unusual sensation when sprayed into the nose.
 
The burning of the eyes is minor, so much in fact that I used it again 
 for the eyes.
 
 I have no problems with nose or eyes.   I keep a spray bottle with me 
 when working and use this a few times per day in case some stray bacteria 
 try to set up housekeeping where I don't want them.
 
Plus, I just might kill a real bad strain one day. Should I change the 
 DMSO to a lower concentration?
 
The bottle was clearly labeled,   35 % DMSO.   A nice printed label at 
 that.   Most of the time I read the labels.
 
Wayne
 
 
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Re: CSMS Sufferer

[nancymike]

Marie, I have been trying to email the MS information you asked for 7 times, an 
it always returned to me s undeliverable.  Please cotact me off list one 
moretime, so I can try again.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marie Hofman 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:48 PM
  Subject: CSMS Sufferer


  Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave off Fluoxetine 
(Prozac).  I have since been reading about Colloidal Gold and found many 
testimonials where people have used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. 
Wow! is it that simple? 





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CSSasser Worm

[Garnet]

There is a new virus causing some severe problems on the internet. The
Sasser Worm. It is thought to have shut down an Aussie train system. Go
to Google.com/news for the story.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 23:15, nancymike wrote:
 Marie, I have been trying to email the MS information you asked for 7
 times, an it always returned to me s undeliverable.  Please cotact me
 off list one moretime, so I can try again.
 Nancy
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marie Hofman
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:48 PM
 Subject: CSMS Sufferer
 
 
 Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave off
 Fluoxetine (Prozac).  I have since been reading about
 Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people have
 used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is it
 that simple? 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages

[Sharon]

Yes MSM would be good for the pony. 2 Tablespoons twice a day, 4 T a day
is not a high dose, if the effect is not enough with 2-4 go higher.
Humans can take 2-8 grams a day so by weight a pony can take much more,
probably 7 times that. It takes about a month to see an effect so be
patient.

I give it to my pony and horses. Seameal from www.solidgoldhealth.com is
also excellent as well as Black Oil Sunflower seeds with the hull for
trace minerals and macro minerals that are very important to health. Do
not use the grey stripe seeds as the hulls are not water soluble fiber
and not as good. Buy the BOSS for wild birds. Wal Mart has them for a
good price in 25# bags.


Hey thanks Garnet! I will head out tomorrow to get her some. I 
noticed she is having more troub;e breathing again, something she has 
problems with must be in bloom. Unfortunately for her she has about 
22 different allergies. Several are trees common in this area. 
Someone else told me today she is convinced that allergies are just 
the result of an immune system out of balance, so the POA needs 
nutritional support to bring back the immune system. I figure CS 
could only help with that.

Sharon


Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 11:10, Sharon wrote:

 Hey guys, A while back I saw a post on MSM for allergies, and I'd
 like to know if you think it might be helpful to a pony with
 allergies, and if so how much of it can I safely give a 600lb pony?
 I'm giving her CS too, and at one point was going to try to nebulize
 the CS but never got a chance to build some sort of bag to neb her
 with.
 TIA for any ideas.
 PS she's already somewhat grey so I doubt I would notice any changes
 due to CS if there were any.
 Sharon


 Hi,
 
 We've been giving our senior horse a quart a day for a couple of years as a
 preventive measure.  He's still the original color.
 
 Trem
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:48 AM
 Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSSilver In Horse Bandages
 
 
   First of all, if they are talking about true CS, then argyria has never
 been
   known to cause it in anyone or anything.  In fact theory predicts that
 true
   CS will help prevent argyria if taken with silver compounds that would
 have
   caused it otherwise.
 
   But even if it did, it seems to me the choice between a gray horse and a
   dead horse should be easy to make.
 
   I would think that dressing the wound with cloth saturated with CS and
   changed fairly often would be a good start.  Also the addition of some
 DMSO
   to the mix would also likely assist.
 
   Remember that preventing an infection by putting CS on a wound is only
 part
   of the story.  The other part is that the ionic portion promotes healing
   without scaring by triggering injured cells, and cells in a 
blood clot to

   revert back to stem cells.
 
   Marshall
 
   Garnet wrote:
 
I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are
very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but many
are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will be
easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud
Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be posting
this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see how
this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback Sheep
Herders reacts to this product.
   
Garnet
   
~
   
Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap.
   
Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of
medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, 
these wraps are
designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, 
burns, abrasions

 and other open wounds without the use of drugs.

   
The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without an
over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound is
cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to 
be disposed
of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three 
sizes and can

be cut to fit.
   
Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn 
victims for

years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was invented',
says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin
Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial 
properties

for up to 28 days.'
   
Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight 
by sixteen

inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad.
   
Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 
44401; (800)

544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com.
   
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Re: CSDMSO - other side?

[Christine Carleton]

I concur.
They did something similar with essential oils in England.  An oil from the
lab refrigerator was put on the vaginal area of a mouse?.  It reacted with a
strong squeeze.  Thus the oil was determined risky re potential abortion
problems.  PS.  If one puts anything cold from the fridge on tender tissues
there as a contraction - even with cold water. I think some experiments are
designed to set us off in the 'prescribed' direction instead of truth.
Discernment is important.
Christine 


 From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:31:13 -0600
 
 There was one study where massive amounts of DMSO were given to rabbits.
 They developed cloudy areas in the lens.
 
 No one has been able to make it happen again.
 
 Most think it is a scam to discredit a cheap and effective substance.
 
 JOH


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Re: CSFood glorious food.

[Christine Carleton]

Wayne,

I found this an excellent testimonial.  Opinions are opinions - but when
someone has overcome a major or chronic ailment, regardless of fitting 'into
the box' or not, I believe they may have a valid message for others to learn
from.  To me these are the 'gems', because the 'proof is in the pudding'.

I think your point about working through the 24 is valid.  Sometimes when
the hands drag past midnight, and I'll just finish this...bug hits -- and
then 'one more hour should do it' --- then it's 5 or 5:30 and I get up
around 6 - so I just go through - I have found it much easier to function on
day 2 if I do not grab an hour or two in the morning but hit the sack early
the next evening at 8 or 9.  Initially it took a bit to get my mind around
it, but it works for me.

Thanks for your testimonial of wellness.  It's inspiring.

Christine

From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 23:04:40 -0500

Evening John,

Wayne:   How old are you NOW?  Can you still run up a flight of stairs? :-)
Yes, of course.  Two or three flights, maybe not 8 or  10.Current
age, 65.5 
I have no back problems and still lift anything I am strong enough to lift.
A year or two ago I was helping my son load some cross ties on a trailer.
After it was over, I realized this was a good test for my back.  If I had
any weak disks, this would have tested them very effectively.

  I can still work 24 to 30 hours straight.  I tell all my younger friends,
If you can't work 24 hours, you are not healthy.   Many people tell me they
cannot work 24 hours straight.  Likely I could still do 36 to 40.  Have not
done this test lately.




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