CS[List Owner] Handling OT and commercial stuff...
Greetings folks, Christine is being understandably cautious about bringing up off topic stuff, as she and a few others have recently been the recipient of some off-list counseling on the issue with me. I don't consider any of it to have been disciplinary in nature, rather more in the realm of advice. Let me clarify for Christine and anyone else who is concerned: Anyone may (and will!) ask any reasonable health-related question. All who wish to may offer answers or advice, regardless of whether they are related to CS or not. CS related stuff gets to be discussed until the subject is exhausted. Non-CS related stuff should be covered briefly on-list so that basic curiosity is satisfied (ie. What is it, and do I want to bother to follow up on it?) and essential resources identified (web links, print journals and books, other forums, etc...). Further discussion of the off topic suggestions or ideas should fairly quickly migrate into private mail, other forums, or the Off Topic List whose address is in the footer at the bottom of every list message. The farther off topic you are, the more briefly you should write and the faster you should migrate off-list. In this way we won't see endless repetition of the process where somebody says Contact me off list. I have another idea, but it's off topic... followed by a dozen Me too! and Post it here, we're interested... replies. It's simpler to just deliver the information briefly and get it over with. grin ~~ On a related note, the Silver List remains a non-commercial forum. Still, there may be times when the information you want to offer is about something you have a commercial interest in. We have a number of members who are vendors, practitioners or distributors of various sorts, who do just fine on the list. You are welcome here so long as it is clear to the rest of us by your behavior that you're here as an individual and *not* as a representative of your business interests, and that your primary aim is to help people regardless of where they end up buying stuff, rather than self-promotion, making sales, or defeating your competitors. Along these lines observe the following: Seek my permission via private e-mail before posting anything that might be seen as self-promotion, *each time*. Later, once I see that you handle yourself appropriately, I'll grant you more leeway. Disclose your commercial interest and encourage people to do their own research. If possible, give pointers to information and guidance that is *not* related to your own site, product, or service, including those who might be your competitors. Do *NOT* compare, criticise or comment on other brands or products. Do not make claims of superiority or uniqueness for your own. I will not tolerate vendor wars and competitor-bashing. Emphasize your personal experience rather than marketing information. We don't need to hear advertising copy and hype from somebody who lacks first-hand knowledge of what they're saying. Handle any business activity that might evolve ENTIRELY off list. It will be *your* responsibility to see to it that no part of your business dealings bleed through to the group. I think if you generally follow these guidelines you won't run into too many problems or risk making the list god angry. Thank you for your cooperation and generosity folks. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspider bite
DByron wrote: I'd appreciate some advice about spider bite treatment, which may be that of a brown recluse. I used DMSO and C/S (10% DMSO} applied with a an eyedropper,,many times a day,, cleared up in a week or so.left a small red splotch..I understand a poultice of MSM works also.. I had 2 black widow spider bites and for the first one I had no local reaction at all, but a systemic one, when I applied meat tenderizer [papain or bromelain] to the bite immediately. The second bite went unnoticed and untreated and developed a crater with central necrosis, and general reddening and swelling of my entire leg; so the enzymes worked at least locally; digestive enzymes might also work. CS mixed with bentonite clay is supposed to pull out toxins and heal. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBest distilled water ?
Really? so what now - keep our DW in airtight containers? Please tell. Marie. From: "James Holmes" ami...@starband.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBest distilled water ? Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:22:17 -0600 It changes rapidly with exposure to air. JOH -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBest distilled water ? Distilled water just plain ole varies. I use Foodloin water a lot. Sometimes it's as high as 4 uS...usually around 2 uS. Lately it's been .4 uS Ode At 09:38 PM 5/10/2004 GMT, you wrote: In my recent search for good DW I have found Arrowhead to be among the best testing out at .7 on my Hanna PWT. I paid $2.59 for the 2.5 gal container but now I am seeing the difference between the cheap DW and the good stuff. I looked at the Arrowhead website and they seem to be very quality control minded. Nestle owns Arrowhead, so big $ behind them. The worst DW goes to Smart and Final testing out at 44. Maybe it was mislabeled mineral water. All I got from that stuff was gray, cloudy cs. My Silver Puppy shut down in 10 seconds (auto mode) with that water. I switched to manual mode and got big clouds and wisps and found out later how bad this water was with my PWT. Anyone else find DW testing better than the Arrowhead? Thanks Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel !
Re: CSChemo Men, Medicine Miracles
My favorite new old saying is: I always succeed, I just don't often know what I'm doing [but I always do what I know until it becomes 'obvious' that I don't know what I'm doing] Finding that out is what makes life worth living...and fun. Sometimes it's the sort of fun that peeling off an old sunburn is. It really hurt once upon a time. [but it's still something I did] Currently, I'm reading Psycho Cybernetics which places the brain as a servo mechanism. [And a very powerful one...not to be underestimated] The concept evolved out of the robotics industry when they were attempting to discover the source of motivation. [The robot always does what it's told to do...why do we have to tell it to do stuff and why does it do crazy stuff after it's told what to do?] The writer is a plastic surgeon who applied the concept to what the people he encountered in his practice were displaying...finding that a simple realization of the process...This, is what I'm doing... worked miracles. [often making the plastic surgury undesirable and unneeded. In that respect, beauty is an opinion and people really do want to agree with you.] ..but that no realization or detail can ever be forced upon someone. Attack and defense are equal and identical forces, each validating the other. An attack is what makes something worth defending. The fight itself is a distraction and nothing ever changes till all the warriors wear themselves out. A 'person' running a defensive program will always find a suitable attack. A 'person' is not the program the person is running. People do quite often 'think' they are though. A failure of a program is as much a miracle as a success and works exactly the same way in every single respect. Believe what you want, you always do anyhow... no matter what. A true gift comes without strings attached or it's not a gift. God wouldn't put strings on a perfect gift, now would he? As 'healer' I just listen, smile and nod a lot...plant a seed and walk away. [Often just a touch, a smile and a wink.] It ain't my garden. If I grab a hoe and start weeding, my work never ends and theirs never starts. That would get in the way of my precious laziness. I might wind up dragging a following around. Can't have that! LOL [Being 'right' is WAY too much work!] ode At 09:15 AM 5/11/2004 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Did you ever ask him/them what's right about what is wrong? Resistance is futile. Where consciousness flows no dis-ease grows. God loves all. His 'com- p.u. -ter' has a glitch needs reprogramming. Christine ps - Ode you paint good word pictures... From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Dr. Seagal says cancer is about anger - the specific location(s) will reflect some of the thinking processes that have gone askew, that need reviewing and addressing. ## That's interesting. My friend with the brain tumor is an Angry young man / health freek planet saver who thinks everyone else is doing something wrong and getting mad about it will change something. ... We call him Moses. ...God and Moses sometimes walk in my yard, looking very Biblical with their long hair and beards, arguing about who's right while everyone else is wrong. [Well, they used to but Moses can't walk right now] ...quite a scene... Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBest distilled water
It doesn't pay to ship water around at 67 cents to $1.50 a gallon retail. It's all locally distilled regardless of brand. Some brands practice better oversight on the local distillers. In some places, the same distiller makes all the brands. ode At 04:09 PM 5/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: I use Zephyrhills brand DW, $1.39 gal, from Winn-Dixie (local grocery store). I suspect that the DW is local also because it is the name of a Florida Town. It consistintly shows .4 on the PWT Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:38:19 GMT From: scl...@netzero.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBest distilled water ? In my recent search for good DW I have found Arrowhead to be among the best testing out at .7 on my Hanna PWT. I paid $2.59 for the 2.5 gal container ---trim---.. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspider bite
Well, Wayne, the post was about using high voltage, low current to treat the spider bite. And a rough and ready way of doing it. The article appears to have some cover-your-ass medical disclaimer boilerplate info at the end. You seem to refer a lot to stuff that is in your own head. I don't know what that is... Spit it out and give us the information, not just references to things that you may be thinking. Your own recent experience with a spider bite as you recounted it on this forum, notwithstanding your superior immune system and nutrition, seemed to require a similar shock treatment before there was substantial improvement and healing in your condition. Dan Re: CSspider bite From: Wayne Fugitt (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:16:55 Evening Dan, http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=430i=9 Spider victim's choice: surgery or lawn mower or ? I read most of the article. It has little bits of truth mixed in with mainstream misinformation. Anyone that reads this article and believes all of it is in BIG TROUBLE. Even the statements by the doctors are near worthless. The most important thing anyone can learn about using the internet . is to recognize the mainstream lies very quickly. I agree it takes years of study to smell a mainstream site over a wire, but I can do it. Get off the site as quickly as possible. LEAVE, and forget everything you read there. I am beginning to think the whole CureZONE may be worthless or worse. A large percent of the information is based on what happens to a typical American weakling who has a compromised immune system and a weakened body chemistry by long or short term use of drugs. Everyone must decide who they are, where they are, and what level of health they have in order to do battle with spider bites and other invaders. If one cannot do this, he may have to place his health and his life in the hands of the unknowing. I may have a report from a recent fatal spider bite. I am trying to make contact now with close friends of the victim. I strongly suspect the treatment was inadequate. If my bite had taken a turn for the worst, I was making plans to see Dr. Abrams. It is a 500 mile drive. Check the site of Dr. Stan Abrams http://www.spiderbitetreatment.com/ I see not one word of truth in the block below, based on my experience. Others may respond as suggested below. == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBest distilled water ?
The CO2 from the air makes it acidic. O2 gets in too, but I am not sure what effect that has. If it is water in the 0.0 to 5 ppm range or the water is conductivity adjusted before making the CS it is usually not of practical concern. JOH -Original Message- From: Marie Hofman [mailto:marie_hof...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBest distilled water ? Really? so what now - keep our DW in airtight containers? Please tell. Marie. From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBest distilled water ? Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:22:17 -0600 It changes rapidly with exposure to air. JOH -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBest distilled water ? Distilled water just plain ole varies. I use Foodloin water a lot. Sometimes it's as high as 4 uS...usually around 2 uS. Lately it's been .4 uS Ode At 09:38 PM 5/10/2004 GMT, you wrote: In my recent search for good DW I have found Arrowhead to be among the best testing out at .7 on my Hanna PWT. I paid $2.59 for the 2.5 gal container but now I am seeing the difference between the cheap DW and the good stuff. I looked at the Arrowhead website and they seem to be very quality control minded. Nestle owns Arrowhead, so big $ behind them. The worst DW goes to Smart and Final testing out at 44. Maybe it was mislabeled mineral water. All I got from that stuff was gray, cloudy cs. My Silver Puppy shut down in 10 seconds (auto mode) with that water. I switched to manual mode and got big clouds and wisps and found out later how bad this water was with my PWT. Anyone else find DW testing better than the Arrowhead? Thanks Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel http://g.msn.com/8HMAENNZ/2752??PS=47575 !
Re: CSChemo Men, Medicine Miracles
A great deal of wisdom in those words. We always succeed because it leads us to our next step of growth however that looks... Dr. Candace Pert's book 'Molecules in Motion' might be interesting also. We are all inordinately brilliant ... I appreciated all your words - I could not edit them - they are precious - you have a gift... Cheers, Christine From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:06:40 -0400 Subject: Re: CSChemo Men, Medicine Miracles My favorite new old saying is: I always succeed, I just don't often know what I'm doing [but I always do what I know until it becomes 'obvious' that I don't know what I'm doing] Finding that out is what makes life worth living...and fun. Sometimes it's the sort of fun that peeling off an old sunburn is. It really hurt once upon a time. [but it's still something I did] Currently, I'm reading Psycho Cybernetics which places the brain as a servo mechanism. [And a very powerful one...not to be underestimated] The concept evolved out of the robotics industry when they were attempting to discover the source of motivation. [The robot always does what it's told to do...why do we have to tell it to do stuff and why does it do crazy stuff after it's told what to do?] The writer is a plastic surgeon who applied the concept to what the people he encountered in his practice were displaying...finding that a simple realization of the process...This, is what I'm doing... worked miracles. [often making the plastic surgury undesirable and unneeded. In that respect, beauty is an opinion and people really do want to agree with you.] ..but that no realization or detail can ever be forced upon someone. Attack and defense are equal and identical forces, each validating the other. An attack is what makes something worth defending. The fight itself is a distraction and nothing ever changes till all the warriors wear themselves out. A 'person' running a defensive program will always find a suitable attack. A 'person' is not the program the person is running. People do quite often 'think' they are though. A failure of a program is as much a miracle as a success and works exactly the same way in every single respect. Believe what you want, you always do anyhow... no matter what. A true gift comes without strings attached or it's not a gift. God wouldn't put strings on a perfect gift, now would he? As 'healer' I just listen, smile and nod a lot...plant a seed and walk away. [Often just a touch, a smile and a wink.] It ain't my garden. If I grab a hoe and start weeding, my work never ends and theirs never starts. That would get in the way of my precious laziness. I might wind up dragging a following around. Can't have that! LOL [Being 'right' is WAY too much work!] ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspider bite
This one is on topic, but I copied it without the headers and don't know who to give credit for it.. My brother-in-law was bitten on the hand by a brown recluse. He waited a day to tell me. By the time he came to me his hand had swollen so bad he could no longer make a fist. I immediately applied a calcium bentonite clay hydrated with 10 ppm colloidal silver as a poultice to the bite about an inch thick and covering the entire back of his hand. We then wrapped it and secured it with an ace bandage. We changed the clay twice a day for 3 days. By day 3 the swelling had gone completely away and you could only see 2 small white marks where the fangs had hit him. He suffered no necrosis. At 04:50 PM 10/20/03, you wrote: Hi Becky, Although I have never seen the treatment, I have been informed by two users that utilizing healing clay poultices on the area greatly assist recovery. Hydrating the healing clay with CS is even a better idea; I've seen rapid responses with other types of bites. The treatment must be utilized as often as possible... Dressings changed about 3 times daily. It is far better if one has some prepared and utilizes it immediately upon being bitten; switching between utilizing the clay and CS directly to the area. If you'd like to learn more about the art of healing clays, feel free to visit our not-for-profit website: http://www.eytonsearth.orghttp://www.eytonsearth.org Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:22 PM Subject: RE: CSspider bite That's what the off-topic list has been created to serve. JOH -Original Message- From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net [mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSspider bite -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspider bite
Another clay and CS cure; assuming you don't have a stun gun or lawnmower handy. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:19 PM Subject: CSspider bite Bentonite Healing Clay: Brown Recluse Spider Bite Chance Favors the Prepared Mind Source: silverl...@eskimo.com David Bearrow Authenticity Rating: 10 out of 10 Correspondence Date: October 20, 2003 Topic: Brown Recluse Spider Bite Synopsis: An individual suffers from continued problems with suspected brown recluse spider bites. Correspondence suggests that further research concerning healing clay treatments may prove to be highly advantageous. An independent report follows documenting a brown recluse spider bite successfully treated one day after the bite is first noticed. Hydrated calcium bentonite poultices were successfully used as the single treatment protocol. A second independent report followed. See our notes at the end. Archive: Brown Recluse Spider Bite Calcium Bentonite Date: October 20, 2003 From: Undisclosed Format: Email To: silverl...@eskimo.com Modifications: Syntax, Format, Content Topic: Brown Recluse Spider Bite Could anyone tell me how to neutralize the toxins from a brown recluse spider bite? My husband has been bitten at least once, but has multiple erruptions that keep occurring every few days. He has a couple that have healed, one that is pretty bad, one that is just starting to get sore. Thanks for any research information. Date: October 20, 2003 From: Eytons' Earth Format: Email To: silverl...@eskimo.com Modifications: Syntax, Format, content modified Topic: Brown Recluse Spider Bite Although I have never personally seen the treatment, I have been informed by two independent researchers that utilizing healing clay poultices on the area greatly assisted the recovery of brown recluse spider bites. Hydrating the healing clay with isolated colloidal silver is even a better idea; I've seen rapid responses with other types of bites. The treatment must be utilized as often as possible... Dressings changed about 3 times daily. It is far better if one has a supply of healing clay pre-prepared and utilizes it immediately upon being bitten; switching between utilizing the clay and utilizing isolated silver directly to the area. Date: October 20, 2003 From: David Bearrow Format: Email To: silverl...@eskimo.com Modifications: Format Topic: Brown Recluse Spider Bite My brother-in-law was bitten on the hand by a brown recluse. He waited a day to tell me. By the time he came to me his hand had swollen so bad he could no longer make a fist. I immediately applied a calcium bentonite clay hydrated with 10 ppm colloidal silver as a poultice to the bite about an inch thick and covering the entire back of his hand. We then wrapped it and secured it with an ace bandage. We changed the clay twice a day for 3 days. By day 3 the swelling had gone completely away and you could only see 2 small white marks where the fangs had hit him. He suffered no necrosis. [ Eytons' Earth commented in a further email, commenting on how quickly the bite may have healed had the clay been applied immediately. In fact there are times when a bite may have been more serious than we'd ever known, but was readily taken care of utilizing healing clay. Response follows. ] I can only guess that he would not have swelled at all had he applied clay immediately. As a result of the swelling he suffered itchiness of the skin where it stretched. Fortunately he had the self control not to scratch it but he did complain quite a bit about the itch. Date: November 5, 2003 From: Name not disclosed for privacy Format: Email To: colloidalsilverd...@yahoogroups.com Modifications: Format Topic: Brown Recluse Spider Bite A couple of years ago my wife was stung on her ankle by what we believe must have been a brown recluse spider. She did not feel anything until she scratched a mild itch on the ankle. Then the pain started. Within a few hours the pain was intense and the wound had started ulcerating. We applied Colloidal Silver to the wound and it seemed to help. The next day, she went to her physician. After he examined the wound, he said that it looked as though she had been stung by a brown recluse spider. He told her that he could not do anything for her except prescribe pain pills, and that she would probably need a skin graft if it did not heal. When she returned from the doctor's office, we got some bentonite clay powder (probably available at any health food store; do a WWW search on bentonite and pascalite ), mixed it Colloidal Silver and MSM, and applied it to the wound as a poultice. Within hours, the pain subsided, and was largely gone the next day. My wife went back to her physician a few days later, and he was amazed at her remarkable progress. In fact, he told her that if anyone in his family ever got stung by a brown recluse spider, he would send
RE: CSDMSO - other side?
This was a signature file in an email that I loved and saved. It says it all. I'm not saying we should kill all the stupid people. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem take care of itself. Thora BC, Canada -Original Message- From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net [mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net] Hi, Then perhaps they should require a warning on the DMSO bottles that you should not wipe toxic materials on your skin and then follow with DMSO? It could be called the DUH warning! :) Jean Baugh ** This is probably the basis of their 'alarm': ...A good solvent; may result in the increased skin absorption of other more toxic materials jr -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspider bite
My brother-in-law was bitten on the hand by a brown recluse. He waited a day to tell me. By the time he came to me his hand had swollen so bad he could no longer make a fist. The time factor is of utmost importance. Many people, me included, have no idea they have a spider bite. Usually I ignore all bites and mishaps of the life I live. After 6 days, this one got my attention. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSspider bite
After reading the archives on Wayne Fuggit's treatment of a presumed recluse spider bite, I have a few questions: Wayne initially used a heating pad. My understanding up til now has been that you'd want to apply ice to a fresh bite in order to inhibit the spread of the poison. Wouldn't applying heat have the effect of spreading the venom? Several people said that the necrosing damage done by a recluse bite is caused by the neurotoxic venom. Why then are antibiotics the conventional treatment? Although I certainly would want to use an alternative, they do seem to effectively stop the necrosing, for the people who go that route. DMSO is helpful in general because it carries CS used with it deeply into the tissue and also reduces swelling. However, it apparently has the effect of releasing histamines when applied to bee stings and is thus contraindicated there. Wouldn't DMSO possibly carry spider bite venom more deeply into surrounding tissues? Might it not be appropriately used later during the bacterial phase of the problem? The experiences of 2 people in my community with bad spider bites indicated that MDs tend to take a wait-and-see approach before using antibiotics. They sometimes draw a circle with a pen around the wound and advise waiting to see if there is a spread or other worsening. In both of these 2 cases the bites healed without treatment, but neither person knew with certainly what kind of spider had bitten them. So it could be that some people are not as allergic to recluse venom as others, as with bee stings. It could also be that most of the self-healing bites aren't those of truly venomous spiders. The dilemma is, of course, that if its a truly bad bite, the longer you wait the harder treatment will be. On the other hand, if you try every alternative willy-nilly, you'll never know what it was that worked and you risk developing some false ideas about what did the curing. I suppose its better overall to try several things, be less clear about what exactly worked, but be rid of the problem without a huge medical bill. Wayne was incredibly courageous, imo, and we now can all benefit from that. Thanks to everyone who has responded, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBest distilled water
Thanks for the tip Richard; I just got some Walgreen's DW at 99 cents and it tested .3 on my PWT. I saved .1 over the Zephyrhills at .4 and 30 cents to boot! I haven't calibrated my PWT since I got it about 8 months ago. I always get clear CS, and can't see any tyndall. - Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: RE: CSBest distilled water Hi Charles, Thanks for your Best distilled water search, Zephyrhills (I'm from Clermont). Have you tried Walgreens? It is Sodium-free, micro-filtered, ozonated, steam distilled and sells for $1/gal. I consistently get crystal-clear CS when using it. I don't have a meter to test--but would be appreciative if you could and would try it and report your readings. Sincerely, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Effective for Hep C?
Thanks will do Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Effective for Hep C?
Hi to all, I wanted to pass on some promising news regarding hep-c . I am a former member here and I use CS daily, and also as of about a year ago, I joined http://group.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ and we have been developing an electrical unit that is effective for hcv and hiv, according to the reports. I posted an update on my situation a couple days ago, under- consistent improvement and one of our hiv people posted good news yesterday. We are starting to see accelerated improvement lately because we have improved the logistics over the past usage. You can make the unit for less than $30 or you can buy one from one of our members (I buy mine because I am not inclined to make one.) for $80. (The batteries that came with it a year ago are still working.) I will try to answer all questions there -we are hoping to get some serious and long term researchers to come and report their progress. Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Fever blisters
There is no medical documentation that DMSO is viricidal, CS is viricidal. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Effective for Hep C?
I can vouch for the simplicity and usefulness of that little device. I encourage anyone with hep-c, HIV, or other systemic challenges to check out the microelectricitygermkiller list and the Godzilla electrifier. Mike D. alltogethernow wrote: Hi to all, I wanted to pass on some promising news regarding hep-c . I am a former member here and I use CS daily, and also as of about a year ago, I joined http://group.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ and we have been developing an electrical unit that is effective for hcv and hiv, according to the reports. I posted an update on my situation a couple days ago, under- consistent improvement and one of our hiv people posted good news yesterday. We are starting to see accelerated improvement lately because we have improved the logistics over the past usage. You can make the unit for less than $30 or you can buy one from one of our members (I buy mine because I am not inclined to make one.) for $80. (The batteries that came with it a year ago are still working.) I will try to answer all questions there -we are hoping to get some serious and long term researchers to come and report their progress. Thanks [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBrooks ? anyone? DMSO + CS for dental - tooth infection??
Hi, Mike, Brooks, etc. - and thank you so much for this list. I was referred here by someone on the MagPulser Yahoo Group. I understand that Brooks Bradley from this list has an effective formula for tooth infection - i.e. 5% DMSO + CS. My questions: (1) Is that formula as effective as magnetic pulsing, thus rendering the latter unnecessary? Does it truly penetrate all the way thru to the dentin tubules canals, and totally zap every last bug? I mean, I've already seen a few testimonials, but then again, in the past there'd been many other impressive testimonials which failed to work for me such as Guaifenesin for FM, Paragone, Intestinew, Chinese liver detox, and much much more. I have a long list on record in my files. (2) Is there any exact instructions for the formula application available anywhere? Including most effective form of application, perhaps saturated gauze pads - or whatever... (3) I'm aware that people make their own CS, but I prefer just shopping around for the best deal. Anyway, I was browsing Ebay for both DMSO CS and found both on there, but wondering if that's the way to go, or maybe Smartbomb (Probiotics or Source Naturals)? Though Ebay seemed cheaper on both items. Any guidance appreciated. Thanks, Minni Pfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5pxGet the FREE email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com; target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/a/fontbrbrnbsp;/font /font
Re: CSCS: Effective for Hep C?Link correction
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RE: CSDMSO - other side?
If people read the MSDS on all the products under their kitchen sink, or in their medicine cabinet, many would think they would be on the verge of death from disaster. I think it goes to our education system. If people were taught to read MSDS sheets regularly, then they would get to know that much that we are told is good, is really bad, and visa versa. Keep the people stupid. I choose not to be stupid. I learned how to read MSDS, medical studies, try to follow the money trail, or lack of it (in the case of cheap health items). Thora BC, Canada -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] The report says it's pretty safe then screams a lot. Health Rating: 1 - Slight Flammability Rating: 2 - Moderate Reactivity Rating: 1 - Slight Contact Rating: 1 - Slight Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES; LAB COAT; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES; CLASS B EXTINGUISHER Storage Color Code: Red (Flammable) Parents stand with their children at the bus stop nowadays because there's a 1 in 3 million + chance that they could be abducted in their lifetimes. When I was a kid, it might have been one in 4 million, so,... we were safe. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSa pottery option for low cost sanitation
Congrats this looks very good, I am going to forward this information on to some who can and probably will use it - Great work Regards Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2004 #435
Can u unsubscribe me please...thanks -Original Message- From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2004 9:33 a.m. To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2004 #435 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS1988 article for DC venom cures (Part One)
Thanks Mike; hope I split it evenly enough. I was subscribing to Outdoor Life when this article came out in 1988. aepei...@fuse.net edkas...@pacbell.net http://www.xmission.com/~gastown/herpmed/shock.htm http://www.industryinet.com/~ruby/snakebitecure.html A SHOCK CURE for Snakebite The first part of the article tells several stories of cases where high voltage DC was used to treat snakebites. In the first case, Dr. Daryl Neans, a veterinarian of Pflugerville, Texas, tells the story of a rancher who brought in a dog that was bitten on the face by a rattlesnake 30 minutes earlier. The dog's face had started swelling and because Dr. Neans had previously read an OUTDOOR LIFE article about the treatment, he connected a wire to one of the spark plug wires of his truck then grounded another one to the frame and used the two wires to shock the dog's face half a dozen times around the bites. The treatment seemed to relieve the dog's pain, but for insurance, Dr. Neans had followed the shock treatment with the usual cortisone, antibiotics, and tetanus antitoxin, but he's convinced that the shock had already effected the cure. The article explains why Dr. Neans believes in the cure: Body tissue is negatively charged, snake venom is slightly positive, and unlike charges attract. If ionization of the venom molecules is altered by electrical shock, he reasoned, perhaps they can't attach themselves to animal tissue and destroy it. Dr. Markus Kryger had read about the treatment in a medical journal when he opted to use it on courthouse employee in southwestern Missouri who was bitten by a copperhead just outside the courthouse. He used jumper cables attached to the spark coil of his car to treat the wound after giving the woman a tetanus shot and disinfecting the bite. Within the hour, the puzzled patient was back at work. Dr. Kryger became convinced that electrical shock could deactivate snake venom because of the chemistry of the poison. Besides proteins and enzymes, venom contains copper and other trace metals whose electrical properties could be easily upset by high-voltage shock, thereby possibly uncoupling what makes the venom work. Dr. Ronald Guderian is a missionary doctor from Seattle who is given credit for being the first to use high voltage DC to treat snakebite. He has successfully treated more than 60 cases in the Esmeraldas Province of Ecuador. Based on Dr. Guderian's experience it seems that if the treatment is received within 15 to 20 minutes after the bite has been inflicted then the pain stops almost immediately and no swelling will occur. If swelling has already started, then it stops and the pain soon subsides. Dr. Guderian typically uses a Nova Technologies stun gun with one of the electrodes modified so that the current can be passed directly through the limb by placing an electrode on each side. All of the successful treatments have been performed with 20,000 to 25,000 volts or more. It has to be DC voltage, too. The article expresses a concern that someone with a pacemaker might be killed if they were shocked with the voltage from an ignition system. The frequency and duration of the pulses of an ignition system, it is feared, might scramble a pacemaker. The only medically tested shocking device that is safe for almost all people, including those with heart pacemakers, is the Stun Gun, made by Nova Technologies (2207 Braker Lane, Austin, TX 78758, 512-832-5591). NO ONE HAS EVER USED ELECTRIC SHOCK TO TREAT SNAKEBITE INFLICTED BY SNAKES WHOSE VENOM ATTACKS THE NERVOUS SYSTEM. (ex. cobra) The only venomous snake of this kind in the United States is the coral snake. The article warns that the high voltage DC shock would not be effective against the neurotoxins in the venom of snakes such as the cobra and coral snakes. Dr. Guderian's success has been with using the Stun Gun made by Nova Technologies. The FDA won't let Nova advertise the stun gun as a treatment against snakebite until further testing has been achieved. There has been some trouble with reproducing the effect of the treatment in the laboratory. It has been proposed that the reason that the treatment has not worked in the laboratory is because those who were doing the testing were using one of the many imitation stun guns imported to the US from Taiwan or South Korea. Another factor in why the treatment does not work in the laboratory is that, in the laboratory, it is tested on small animals. In the words of Dr. Guderian, Think about it. Snake venom evolved for the purpose of quickly killing prey. Humans are not snake prey: we just get in the way some times. There may be biological differences causing small animals to be more susceptible than humans to venom. Or it may just be a matter of our much larger size. When a small animal is snakebitten, all of it's biological systems shut
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On a hike through the jungle to visit an indian village, Jim was bitten on the arm by a conga ant. The conga ant's venom can cause a limb to swell so badly that it can't be used for days. Jim claimed the bite felt like five wasp stings in the same spot. He shocked the wound with a stun gun and within 30 to 60 seconds the pain was gone. Even though conga ant bites are supposed to swell the whole limb, Jim had no swelling, only a discolored area the diameter of a baseball. Dr. Guderian began the high voltage DC shock treatment, not on snakebites, but originally on stings and bites from scorpions, ants, bees, wasps, and other kinds of insects. In the beginning he used the ignition systems of outboard motors and chainsaws to treat the stings, but he later was sent a portable, battery powered buzzer-and-coil setup from a friend in Indiana. Later on the same friend sent him several Stun Guns to try out. While Jim Scroggins was in Ecuador, a girl was stung on the toe by a scorpion and given the shock treatment with a stun gun. After a few minutes the pain was gone and the girl left the emergency room. After Scroggins got home from his trip to Ecuador, his wife was working in the yard when she was bitten on the hand by four fire ants. Donna starts getting a reaction to just one fire-ant bite in about five minutes. Then, she goes into anaphylactic shock and can't breathe. In the rush to go to the hospital, the Scroggins took time to treat the hand with two quick half-second zaps from a Nova Technologies Stun Gun. On the way to the hospital, the pain had stopped, so they turned around and went home. There was little or no swelling, perhaps one third of what she usually gets from a single bite. Dr. Guderian has found out through various sources that shocks have been used to treat scorpion stings for years in places like India. 40 years ago, people in Nigeria who were stung by scorpions were commonly shocked with the ignition system of a motorcycle. High voltage DC can be used to treat other things as well. While in the city of Esmeraldas, Dr. Guderian had the opportunity to treat a child who had been stung on the back by a stingray. He used a wire connected to an automobile's ignition coil and 20 minutes after the treatment the child was back in the water again playing as if nothing had happened. A Dr. Stoddard, talked to by OUTDOOR LIFE, points out that bacteria, like venom, is largely protein. So are viruses. In Europe, acne is being treated with electricity. Dr. Guderian has treated boils with high voltage DC. According to him, if a boil is treated before it comes to a head, the swelling and reddness will be gone in three to four days. Dr. Stoddard even suggests that in the future rabies may be treated with electric shock. Dr. Guderian is amazed at how well the shock treatment works to relieve pain. He suspects that the pain deactivation process is separate from the deactivation of the poison. The article tells the story of a Texas woman who suffers from severe migraine headaches and voluteered to be treated with a stun gun. She was shocked on the back of the neck and once on each side. The pain went away, but in the morning it was back, only this time much weaker. The process was repeated again and the pain totally vanished. It is proposed in the article that, the same high voltage shock that upsets the electrical charge of venom proteins may upset the charges in body proteins that signal pain to our brains. Submitted to KeelyNet by Michael McQuay Page 5 Taken from KeelyNet BBS (214) 324-3501 Sponsored by Vangard Sciences PO BOX 1031 Mesquite, TX 75150 There are ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS on duplicating, publishing or distributing the files on KeelyNet! April 21, 1991. The previous article is a summation and series of quotes from a two part article that appeared in OUTDOOR LIFE magazine. The name of the article is A Shock Cure for Snakebite and was written by Larry Mueller. Part 1 of the article was in the June 1988 issue and Part 2 was in the July 1988 issue. Back issues of OUTDOOR LIFE can be purchased by writing OUTDOOR LIFE, Back Issue Department, P.O. Box 54733, Boulder, CO 80233. The price per back issue is $4.00. A cheaper way out is to call the OUTDOOR LIFE home office at (212)779-5000 and ask them to send you a copy of the article. They will do this free of charge but you may have to tell them that you are a subscriber to their magazine. http://www.highway60.com/mark/brs/osborn.htm http://www.sierrastar.com/past/6-25-99/625spider.html
Re: CS A question For Charles Sutton
Scroggins took time to treat the hand with two quick half-second zaps from a Nova Technologies Stun Gun. There are a lot of diff volt Stun Guns, Do you know the best one to use? Yours Hank - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: CS On a hike through the jungle to visit an indian village, Jim was bitten on the arm by a conga ant. The conga ant's venom can cause a limb to swell so badly that it can't be used for days. Jim claimed the bite felt like five wasp stings in the same spot. He shocked the wound with a stun gun and within 30 to 60 seconds the pain was gone. Even though conga ant bites are supposed to swell the whole limb, Jim had no swelling, only a discolored area the diameter of a baseball. --- Hank's outgoing mail is certified as Virus Free as can be. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.682 / Virus Database: 444 - Release Date: 5/11/04
Re: CS Fever blisters
From DMSO Nature's Healer by Dr. Morton Walker; Page 59, 3rd and 4th paragraphs: The solvent alone combats viruses and carries antiviral drugs into the tissues for such infections as fever blisters or painful shingles. It is thought that DMSO dissolves a virus organism's coating of protein and leaves it unprotected with only its core of nucleic acid exposed to the immune mechanism of the host animal. It did just that to a murine virus-induced leukemia. - Original Message - From: Nina Whit ninaw...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:01 PM Subject: Re: CS Fever blisters There is no medical documentation that DMSO is viricidal, CS is viricidal. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspider bite
At 09:47 AM 5/12/04, you wrote: Well, Wayne, the post was about using high voltage, low current to treat the spider bite. And a rough and ready way of doing it. That part was ok and seems factual. You seem to refer a lot to stuff that is in your own head. I don't know what that is... Spit it out and give us the information, not just references to things that you may be thinking. The part at the very end was what I quoted and what I referenced. Your own recent experience with a spider bite as you recounted it on this forum, notwithstanding your superior immune system and nutrition, seemed to require a similar shock treatment before there was substantial improvement and healing in your condition. While this is true, I was feeling great before the stun gun. I noticed a slight feel better effect. This could have been a mental condition. Healing was relatively slow, I though, even after that shock treatment. It was the last paragraph and last line that turned me off. When you consider all the horror stories, surgery, and amputations, .. these were the people who were going to the doctors and getting treatment. If you recall, I did talk to two doctor friends. They both told me the antibiotics do nothing to neutralize the venom. This was one important fact in my decisions. Yes, I was likely to harsh on the article, since I have reread it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2004 #435
unsubscribe-thanksphmoo...@yahoo.com.au Moo m...@wave.co.nz wrote: Can u unsubscribe me please...thanks -Original Message- From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2004 9:33 a.m. To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2004 #435 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: CSa pottery option for low cost sanitation
Friends, Thanks to all for the encouragement on the silver treated pottery toilet, http://www.purifier.com.np/silsanpot.html Several people have asked me recently what the big problem really is, with the surfaces around the hole of pit latrines. I think the biggest single worry may be in the situation of small kids, maybe two, just out of diappers. A brother or sister, five or six, can help the younger sibling to go to the toilet, but the extent of their capacity to help may be just this. At five or six they're still not so good at keeping the younger one away from this dirty surface. At least with the sanitary pottery, with intermittant rinsing clean, with water, by an older child the risk of infection should be lessened. Sorry again, for not so glamorous a topic. Reid -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
