Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator
Hi Roger, I can make you one. I'll contact you off list. Tony On 17 Sep 2004 at 17:39, Roger Barker wrote: > I've been asked to source a white noise sound generator and am > wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with these machines? Any > help greatly appreciated. > > Cheers, Roger > http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html > > Tony Moody -- A I Moody, PO Box 24, Hogsback 5721, Eastern Cape, South Africa Tel/Fax : 045 962 1131 Cellphone : 073 270 6411 email : a...@new.co.za -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?
Garnet wrote: I make ~10ppm CS in my SilverGen SG6. I know from the mfg's measurements that 12 o'clock on my dial makes ~10 ppm and all the way up makes ~20 ppm, where as all the way down makes ~5 ppm. That's all I need to know. The exact ppm is not important. There will be at least that much variation in how much you absorb or excrete it each time you ingest it. The body fluxes in its needs and functions. Body weight is variable too, as to how much is fat and how much is muscle -- this affects the distribution of all substances in the body. This is part of the reason women are more sensitive to alcohol, it does not distribute in body fat the way it does in muscle, so women have a higher blood level than men because women have more body fat than men. The only thing that I am concerned about regarding dose is getting enough! Because it is so cheap to make I use generous amounts. Taking more than you might need is no problem because it is excreted in your urine within one to two hours, very little remains in the body longer than that. After 90 -100 days in the Altman study (see www.silvermedicine.org), the amount being excreted was effectively zero. This is the only study we have on the metabolism and excretion of Silver from CS. But we do have thousands of years of anecdotal information on silver and many years of heavy use of CS. Not one case of toxicity or even the cosmetic condition argyria, which results from Silver salts accumulating, is fully reversible and is totally without effect except for the slight graying of the skin, mostly seen in the nail beds in the early stages. Many people take pints to quarts a day for years and years, literally. The gentleman who introduced me to CS took had been taking it for over 7 years and doing urine therapy so he was also reingesting it through his use of oral urine therapy. He was NEVER sick and had nothing but good to say about the CS. He felt that the two therapies were very complementary. Not for every one perhaps but nice to know about. His wife who used only the CS and not the UT was not quite as healthy, as he, but still enjoyed good health. Garnet On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 11:49, Budder Tyrrell wrote: Hello, I'm new to colloidal silver making and its applications/usages and am finding the learning curve to be more than daunting. I cannot figure out how important the PPM's are, and I wonder how I would test my homemade CS to determine if I have, in fact, truly acheived the goal of making CS. Is there a "Colloidal Silver for Dummies" book or website that can I can consult and refer to as I navigate the complex waters of this listserve? I'm usually a quick study but this CS stuff is not sinking in. Any url's or books you guys can direct me to would be very much appreciated. Six weeks of reading this list's digests seems to be generating more questions than answers for me. Sorry to be such a whiny newbie. Thanks for any help/suggestions, Beth _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Hi G. et al, I have heard of only one person---an anecdotal report on this list several years ago---who got loose bowels from a few ounces of CS. Therefore, I have decided to let digestive disturbances in the lower bowl, one way or the other be a sign to limit CS intake. He was elderly, frail, and had many conditions. If I had CA I w,ould probably drink a half gallon a day, distributed. I have never seen a situation where that limit was reached. Usually much smaller amounts, like 4 oz per day will do many common situations.
CS>peirced ears
My daughter has peirced ears, when they get inflammed she is afraid to use CS to help the inflamation ... this is because we have learned not to use a metal spoon etc. to ingest CS. She thinks the CS will react some way with the sterling silver earings. Can anybody tell me if this is correct? Otherwise, I would like her to use it. It seems an ongoing problem. Thanks again list ... awesome to get this help. elle. Check out news, entertainment and more on the Xtra Broadband Channel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2004 #711
Could I change my e-mail address to reichca...@yahoo.com? Thanks! Cathy Reich - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2004 #711 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Bill Moyers on Journalism
In my mail, good read, wrote by one of the best. - Original Message - From: Ingrid Naiman Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:11 AM Subject: Bill Moyers on Journalism http://www.tompaine.com/articles/journalism_under_fire.php
Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator
Roger, Here is a link for another "sound conditioner." I have one of these and find it very effective in displacing noise that might interfere with sleep. Not sure this is the purpose of your request, but you might want to check out the link anyway. http://www.marpac.com/sound_cond.asp Sincerely, Jim Wright Roger Barker wrote: Thanks Jonathon. Don't suppose you have an url for them? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS>Accutane and MSM
How much Goldenseal would that be in mg? I have the capsule form. ~Nathan Roman wrote: Joy : > > > I had lifetime acne - severe- including after following a regime of > accutane, until used an intensive dosing of golden seal. I used a > liquid form of it, one dropperful , each morning, and within a month my > acne was completely gone. I have not had to resume the use of golden > seal for that purpose, have had no recurrent boutes of generalized > acne. Thanks for the info. Having looked it up and read http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?PageType=article&ID=1906, I can see why it might have been so effective. You made connection between your acne and state of your GI tract, and so have I. I will try it myself to see if I can gain some benefit (my acne isn't serious anymore after all my dietary changes, but it still shows up once in a while). Roman -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
Re: CS>Accutane and MSM
I stopped taking the Accutane after six days - it gave me painfully dry eyes, dry lips, dry bones, and laryngitis! I am trying Goldenseal right now along with Blue Light Laser Therapy and a different antibiotic. That, and a bunch of Vitamin C and Colloidal silver! ~Nathan Garnet wrote: Accutane has some serious, serious side effects. Please investigate it fully, if you have not already before taking it. It destroys the oil producing glands in your skin. MSM is a naturally occuring substance and is in all fresh foods. You could not avoid it without ceasing to eat. It is a source of double bonded sulfur normaly only found in unprocessed foods. There should not be a problem with it interacting to my knowledge. BTW do you eat red meat? If so try stopping for a few months before starting the Accutane and see if that helps. Red meat requires testosterone to be digested and the testosterone causes more sebum production. I no longer eat beef since my teenage daughter told me this and stopped as well. If I eat one piece of beef, which I no longer crave but did for about six months at times, I get a pimple, in the same place every time. Garnet On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 23:33, Nathan Filyk wrote: > Has anyone had any experience using Accutane for acne? I am > considering low-dose accutane, and am wondering if it is safe to take > MSM during that time. > > ~Nathan > > > __ > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! > Download Messenger Now -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator
http://www.tools4explore.com/ Company may have changed names. . . On Saturday, Sep 18, 2004, at 08:42 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: Thanks Jonathon. Don't suppose you have an url for them? on 17/9/2004 6:56 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: Try Tools for Exploration. On Friday, Sep 17, 2004, at 14:39 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: I've been asked to source a white noise sound generator and am wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with these machines? Any help greatly appreciated. Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results
Regarding BB, I am still grateful for his posting about brushing teeth with soap. In my family, the results have been just wonderful, with unmistakable improvements evident after a few months. My gums are in great shape. We recently visited a great dentist who showed live microscope projections of the bacteria in one child's mouth after dental cleaning. In brief, there are four kinds of bacteria normally present in at least small quantities, only one of which is particularly harmful, a spirochete of some kind -- clearly a corkscrew shape on the monitor -- that is anaerobic and survives UNDER layers of the other bacteria. This is the main cause of gum disease.I believe that using soap wipes out all the bacteria on a regular basis, making the mouth inhospitable to the spiral bacteria. In this regard, the CS/DMSO seems a wise prophylaxis also, as the DMSO presumably transports CS deep enough to attack the residual spiral bacteria. The explanation was all in Japanese so I did not get every detail, but that is an accurate synopsis. It was quite an education. On Saturday, Sep 18, 2004, at 06:32 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: Brooks Bradley had an article today to Del that further answers this, and of all the experts on these Sites, NONE are more highly qualified, respected and generous than Brooks! Check my Site & let me know how I can help. Sincerely, __ Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How much CS I take...
A fascinating medical doctor, Y. Omura, claims that different manufacturer's versions of identical antibiotics produce dramatically different results in his kinesiological tests. I believe him.This puts the lie to the whole concept of standard doses; the same drug from different makers is not the same. On Saturday, Sep 18, 2004, at 02:22 Asia/Tokyo, Garnet wrote: Preventive medicine is not the same as treating a diseased body. Trying to apply exact dosages, even with antibiotics, is ONLY an approximation. As I pharmacologist, one who researches dosages and mechanism of drug action, I know that what is presented to the public is hype. There is no certainty that an exact dose is being used. We have no way of knowing this so generally we are overdosing some and under dosing others, when using the established dosages for pharmaceuticals. I hope I am correct in assuming that your questions arises from this practice in allopathic medicine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator
Hi Roger, Thanks Jonathon. Don't suppose you have an url for them? Might help if I stuck a url in here:( http://www.bwgen.com/index.htm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator
Hi Roger, Try this one...quite cheap...I just dl'd it and am running it now... FWIW, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>off topic. White noise sound generator
Thanks Jonathon. Don't suppose you have an url for them? on 17/9/2004 6:56 PM, Jonathan B. Britten at jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: Try Tools for Exploration. On Friday, Sep 17, 2004, at 14:39 Asia/Tokyo, Roger Barker wrote: I've been asked to source a white noise sound generator and am wondering if anyone on the list is familiar with these machines? Any help greatly appreciated. Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results
Thanks Richard - I'm new at all this CS stuff and am trying to research all that I can - but you know as well as I do - you have to be careful where you get your information on the internet. Thanks again for your help!! Gwlynda -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results Hi Dave & Gwlynda, My son, who runs 5 miles a day, and a female friend, who has her lawn maintenance business, each prepare 1/2 gallons of 1/3 Water, 1/3 10ppm CS and 1/3 Gatorade. They swig from it all day long as they feel the need for fluids; & report no problems from the mixture. My wife had a fluid retention problem for the past 40 years, which CS intake has taken away--NO more Lasix or aggravating Diuretics. She had a chronic UTI that recurred every 4 weeks; since she found about mixing 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade (we use Orange & buy it by gallons when on sale)she has had NO UTI for about 1 year. We have truly witnessed that this combination takes CS deeper into the body tissues than CS could go alone. Brooks Bradley had an article today to Del that further answers this, and of all the experts on these Sites, NONE are more highly qualified, respected and generous than Brooks! Check my Site & let me know how I can help. Sincerely, __ Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek [mailto:bulld...@irek.cbeyond.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Water Distillers
I use either 9% white pickling vinegar or the regular 5% white vinegar. The 9% just allows me to use less vinegar, but it is not always available in a store brand product. Store brand being cheaper than brand names. If I am using 5% I use about two cups (I really have not measured exactly), with 9% more like a cup, then fill the rest of the way with hot water and let sit over night or until most of the deposits are completely dissolved. (This method works for any kind of hard water deposits as well. Being on well water with a hardness of 42, moderate, we deal with this on faucets and toilets.) You don't need distiller cleaner at all. Works in coffe makers too. I tried the green scrubbies and it was more work. I read on this list to just wipe them lightly, that they did not have to shine. Besides my family kept using my dedicated scrubbie to wash dishes then I could not use it any longer. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results
Hi Dave & Gwlynda, My son, who runs 5 miles a day, and a female friend, who has her lawn maintenance business, each prepare 1/2 gallons of 1/3 Water, 1/3 10ppm CS and 1/3 Gatorade. They swig from it all day long as they feel the need for fluids; & report no problems from the mixture. My wife had a fluid retention problem for the past 40 years, which CS intake has taken away--NO more Lasix or aggravating Diuretics. She had a chronic UTI that recurred every 4 weeks; since she found about mixing 1 part CS + 2 parts Gatorade (we use Orange & buy it by gallons when on sale)she has had NO UTI for about 1 year. We have truly witnessed that this combination takes CS deeper into the body tissues than CS could go alone. Brooks Bradley had an article today to Del that further answers this, and of all the experts on these Sites, NONE are more highly qualified, respected and generous than Brooks! Check my Site & let me know how I can help. Sincerely, __ Richard Harris, 56 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek [mailto:bulld...@irek.cbeyond.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Water Distillers
Hi Garnet, Yesterday you said .'I simply wipe it out after each batch and soak it in vinegar and water over night every 6 or 7th batch, when the mineral deposits that won't wipe out get to be the size of a quarter on the bottom of the vessel'.. This sounds like a good idea to me and saves dollars for water distiller cleaner. What type of vinegar do you use and when you soak overnight, how much vinegar do you add? Also, for cleaning electrodes you suggest Kleenex tissues. I have been taught to use a green scouring pad and clean till the silver shines, I cant get the same result with tissues. Is there a reason to use only the tissues? ie. does the scouring pad cause some ill-effect? I'm very grateful for all I have learned on the list in the last few days, being an amateur... thanks to those who have raised questions and had expert answers, much has been clarified for myself. Cheers elle Watch movie trailers online with the Xtra Broadband Channel ! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?
Being on dial up myself I can commisserate with you. If you use the term dose and dosages you will probably pull up mostly useful posts. Not trying to discourage you from asking current list participants, just pointing out that the archives will yield many more posts. Garnet On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 13:33, fredsus1 wrote: > Hi Garnet, > > I have searched the Archives to the extent that my lousy dial-up has > afforded me, LOL. I have gone through many archives on many subjects and > sometimes it seems those questions are still not answered. I could try > typing in "testimonies" or "dosages" and rifle though all the sub-threads > that inevitably come up. > > I will try again. > > Susie > > ///Have you searched the archives Susie? There are literally thousands of > posts that do exactly what you have requested. Many of the regulars here > use the archives first and then ask a question to avoid repetition and > frankly boredom with answering the same old question a zillion times. I > know it is easier to just ask but you will not get the same quantity of > information, for the above reason and the fact that so many have posted > in the archives that are not presently participating in the list. > > On most lists I have participated in this type of comment is taken as > laziness or just plain arrogant. I know that you may not mean it this > way but I just want to help you understand how your words can be > misinterpretted. > > Garnet/// > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?
Hi Garnet, I have searched the Archives to the extent that my lousy dial-up has afforded me, LOL. I have gone through many archives on many subjects and sometimes it seems those questions are still not answered. I could try typing in "testimonies" or "dosages" and rifle though all the sub-threads that inevitably come up. I will try again. Susie ///Have you searched the archives Susie? There are literally thousands of posts that do exactly what you have requested. Many of the regulars here use the archives first and then ask a question to avoid repetition and frankly boredom with answering the same old question a zillion times. I know it is easier to just ask but you will not get the same quantity of information, for the above reason and the fact that so many have posted in the archives that are not presently participating in the list. On most lists I have participated in this type of comment is taken as laziness or just plain arrogant. I know that you may not mean it this way but I just want to help you understand how your words can be misinterpretted. Garnet/// -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Aspertame lawsuit
All 62 pages of it: http://www.wnho.net/nutrasweet_company_lawsuit.htm Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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> Dr. Betty Martini, Founder, Mission Possible Intl, 9270 River Club > Parkway, > Duluth, Georgia 30097 770 242-2599 www.wnho.net, www.dorway.com > === > Racketeering (RICO) Charges Filed Against NutraSweet, Dr. Robert Moser > of > NS, American Diabetes Assoc and Monsanto - Press Conf, Sacramento, > 9/16 > > SENT AS A COURTESY OF: > WORLD NATURAL HEALTH ORGANIZATION > http://www.wnho.net - Click on Racketeering Banner > ~` > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 15, 2004 > National Press Conference, Thursday 9/16 11:00 A.M. > Sheraton Grand Hotel1230 J StreetSacramento, Ca > > Filed In:The United States District Court for the Northern > District of > California > Plaintiff:Joe Bellon, individually and as a representative of a > class > of plaintiffs > Damages $350,000,000 > > Click to see video: Rumsfeld/Aspartame > http://www.soundandfury.tv/Pages/Rumsfeld2.html > > San Francisco, CA: > > A RACKETEER INFLUENCED & CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS [RICO] > complaint has been filed in U.S. District Court for the Northern > District > of California. The suit charges the defendants with manufacturing and > marketing a deadly neurotoxin unfit for human consumption, while they > assured the pubic that aspartame > (also known as NutraSweet/Equal) contaminated products are safe and > healthful, even for children and pregnant women. Present Secretary of > Defense Donald Rumsfeld is mentioned throughout the lawsuit. > > As evidence, an explosive affidavit from a former translator for the > G.D. > Searle Co - the developer of aspartame - will be made public at a > National > Press Conference on Thursday, September 16 at 11:00 a.m. at the > Sheraton > Grand Sacramento Hotel, 1230 J Street, Sacramento, California 95814, > phone > (916) 447-1700. > > For 16 years, the FDA denied approval of aspartame because of > compelling > evidence of its contributing to brain tumors and other serious > disabilities. Donald Rumsfeld, present Secretary of Defense in the > Bush > Administration, left President Ford's administration as Chief of Staff > to > become the CEO of aspartame producer G D Searle Co. in 1981. Shortly > after, > Rumsfeld became the CEO, and the day after President Reagan took > office, > aspartame was quickly approved by FDA Commissioner Arthur Hayes over > the > objections of the FDA's Public Board of Inquiry. Hayes had been > recently > appointed by the Reagan Administration. Shortly after aspartame's > approval > by the FDA, Hayes joined NutraSweet's public relations firm under a > ten > year contract at $1,000 a day. > > Aspartame/NutraSweet was the product of the G. D. Searle Co. In > January > 1977, the FDA wrote a 33 page letter to U.S. Justice Department > Attorney > Sam Skinner: "We request that your office convene a Grand Jury > investigation into apparent violations of the Federal Food, Drug and > Cosmetic Act." Skinner allowed the Statute of Limitations to run. > > Three FDA Commissioners and eight other officers and Skinner took jobs > in > the aspartame industry. > > The Food and Drug Administration once listed 92 adverse reactions from > > 10,000 consumer complaints and would send the list to all inquirers. > In > 1996 the > FDA stopped taking complaints and now denies existence of the report. > Seizures, blindness, sexual dysfunction, obesity, testicular, mammary > and > brain tumors and death, plus dozens of other dread diseases named in > the > suit arise from the consumption of this neurotoxin. > > Defendant Moser, past CEO of NutraSweet, is cited for misrepresenting > facts > to public and commercial users with full knowledge of the deceptions. > The > toxin is sold to Bayer, Con Agra Foods, Dannon, Smucker, > Kellogg, Wrigley, PepsiCo, Kraft Foods (Crystal Light), Conopco > (Slim-Fast), Coke, Pfizer, Wal-Mart and Wyeth (to name a few), who use > it > in some of their products, including children's vitamins. These > entities > are named in other suits now in California Courts. > > Defendant American Diabetes Association's mission is to care for > diabetics. > A 35 year ADA member, world famous diabetic specialist H.J.Roberts, > M.D., > discovered aspartame can precipitate diabetes and reacts harmfully > with > insulin. ADA rejected his report which was then published in a > prestigious > medical journal. > > The seven count indictment includes charges for violation of > California > Consumers Legal Remedies Act, Fraud, violations of California Civil > Code > '1780-1784 and Injunctive Relief: that Defendants be enjoined from > future > use/sale of aspartame. > > For more information or to request an interview, contact: > Britt Groom, Attorney at Law > Spokesperson for National Justice League > 2205 Hilltop Drive #2022 > Redding, CA 96002 > Message or fax request to (530) 248-3483 (CA. No.) > > Or email: > i...@nationaljusticeleague.net > > Website: www.nationaljusticeleague.com/ > Click to see lawsuit as filed
Re: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results
- Original Message - From: "Dave and Gwlynda Irek" To: Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:31 AM Subject: RE: CS>Gatorade (homemade) and CS results Richard, So you feel that it is ok to mix the CS with Gatorade - what about the sodium in Gatorade - does that have any affect on the CS? -- Hi: Shortly before his house burned down, I asked Brooks Bradley this exact question. I don't think he would mind my sharing his reply with you, and I have included it below this. Del --- Dear Del, Please forgive this tardy response, but I am behind some 50 or so messages. I have been, simply, overwhelmed with email inquiries of late. In direct answer to your questions I offer: (1) Regarding colloidal silver X Nacl conflict in Gatorade solution. We found no challenging presentations during our evaluations using Gatorade in conjunction with Colloidal Silver. Do remember that Gatorade is a "balanced" electrolyte solution and does not offer as much attraction as would NaCl in a standalone environment. Silver Chloride is (in our opinion) considerably less of an argyria threat than is generally bandied aboutespecially when considering the volumetric requirement for inducing argyria from low ppm electrically isolated silver which has combined with a Cl fraction. Actually, silver chloride is quite effective in controlling all of the pathogens that Isolated Cs is---and it is an order of magnitude less worrisome than would be ANY SILVER PROTEIN COMBINATION which I can think of. If the in vivo chloride bug-a-boo were a threat anywhere close to what some (e.g. Frank Key for instance] advance, a VERY large number of BLUE people would be walking about at present. We have found that the chloride "objection" does not seem to manifest to the extent that many contend.especially not with Gatorade, Lactated Ringer's, etc. Unless one is planning on a "long term" research protocol evaluation, I would consider it quite a stretch to worry over consequential argyriaunder these parameters. The possibility of "genuinely threatening" contaminants from ordinary "tap-water" would seem to present a much greater potential compromise-than would chloride recombination with silver in Gatorade type solutions. Even if such combinations are occurring, they are, evidently, of small moment...as no visible precipitates were ever manifest (in our composite solutions) in any of our evaluations. We used CLEAR Gatorade in all of our evaluations. Originally, this was the only type which was available. (2) Your observations relating to using "filtered" water are, essentially, correct. I strongly advise against its use---except in cases of DIRE EMERGENCY. Actually, if I was going to use a supporting adjuvant, at the present timeI would use DMSO (at about 1 or 2% strength).as it possesses the quality of being the preeminent entrainment solution available to us. DMSO WILL transport the CS through mucous barriers and intermediate tissue fields like NO OTHER substance of which we are aware---at this timeand it is quite Non-toxic. Our original Gatorade studies have since, been superceded by our DMSO researchin which our protocols eliminate even the possibility of chloride compromise. A note of caution however: DMSO is quite bitter to the tasteeven at 2%. Therefore, one might be well-served to utilize somewhat higher ppm strengths of CS (10 to 20 ppm) which would allow quite small therapeutic dosages one could chase with diluent quantities of plain waterto immediately mitigate against the unpleasant taste. I hope these comments have been of value to you. I must go now, but if you have further questions, feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>will this learning curve yield knowledge?
Have you searched the archives Susie? There are literally thousands of posts that do exactly what you have requested. Many of the regulars here use the archives first and then ask a question to avoid repetition and frankly boredom with answering the same old question a zillion times. I know it is easier to just ask but you will not get the same quantity of information, for the above reason and the fact that so many have posted in the archives that are not presently participating in the list. On most lists I have participated in this type of comment is taken as laziness or just plain arrogant. I know that you may not mean it this way but I just want to help you understand how your words can be misinterpretted. Garnet On Thu, 2004-09-16 at 21:58, fredsus1 wrote: > > Since this IS a CS list, it would be nice if people would take the time to > write in a short reply of what they are taking CS for and in what amounts it > has helped. > > Susie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How much CS I take...
Dose to effect means know your body and recognize when it is being challenged. >From trial and error I know how much CS it takes for me to remain healthy. I consume between a good gulp to 16 oz a day, depending on the level of exhaustion, stress, exposure and symptoms I am having. You have to listen to your body and work it out for your individual immune function and environment. Preventive medicine is not the same as treating a diseased body. Trying to apply exact dosages, even with antibiotics, is ONLY an approximation. As I pharmacologist, one who researches dosages and mechanism of drug action, I know that what is presented to the public is hype. There is no certainty that an exact dose is being used. We have no way of knowing this so generally we are overdosing some and under dosing others, when using the established dosages for pharmaceuticals. I hope I am correct in assuming that your questions arises from this practice in allopathic medicine. Holistic and preventative medicine is more about maintaining good health rather than abusing our bodies and using pharmaceuticals to correct the damage. I also figure that CS is cheap and that I may as well take a bit too much than too little. It can not harm me in the amounts I take, in fact there is much doubt that it can harm even in much larger amounts. Of course if you drink enough water, 4 gallons in succession, to be exact you WILL die due to the dilution of your electrolytes, you will not be able to propagate an action potential and your hear will stop beating. Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How much CS I take...
Hi Mike! I'd be interested in knowing if you also did the kidney cleanse recommended by HClark. Some of those herbs (hydrangea root) are hard to find. I can see the wisdom in it though. Thx, Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>How much CS I take...
Susie wants to know: > What kind of dosages do individual people take and why and what has it > helped? Okay, I'll get the ball rolling: I make CS using low voltage DC with a current control diode in the line. My main electrode is a 1 oz silver bullion coin. So I have a pretty low current density, which probably results in a largely ionic CS, as well as particles of reasonably small size. There's a weak Tyndall effect that's only visible in a darkened room. I have no clue what the ppm is. If nothing in particular is going on, I'll take a swallow or two a week, whenever I think about it. No, I can't get any more precise than that unless you want me to take a swallow and spit it out into a measuring cup... If I think I'm at risk of some kind of plague, I'll up that to a swallow or two per day until I lose interest and fall back to my normal habit. If I seem to be *getting* such a plague, I'll take several swallows a day, whenever I think about it, until the danger seems to be past. By "take a swallow" I mean pouring a few "glugs" (uncalibrated) into my upturned mouth (so as not to contaminate the bottle of CS with my saliva), then swishing it around as long as I can, which is usually limited by my rather short attention span, forgetfulness, or the need to verbally reprimand my daughter for whacking her brother with the end of a broom handle... Ahem! What was I saying? This may mean anywhere from a few seconds to several minutes. It is not readily quantified. What has it helped? Well, my first efforts with CS yielded a period of 3 1/2 years in which I didn't get so much as a cold. That was after at least a decade of recurrent bronchitis and strep infections and multiple courses of antibiotics each year. Of course I did eventually catch a respiratory plague of some sort after having gotten slack in taking it. Since then I have only rarely gotten ill, and always during those slack times I've not been using much CS. One thing for sure is that I have not needed a single antibiotic in the 7 or so years I've been taking CS. In fact, no one else in my family has, either. Nowadays, I'm using CS as part of a modified 4-part Beck protocol as a substitute for the parasite cleanse recommended before doing the Clark style liver cleanses I've been doing since January or February. So at least every other week I'm taking regular doses of CS leading up to my next cleanse. The cleanses are certainly yielding the predicted output of "stones", and have apparently given me a bit of an energy boost. I plan to persist until the yield drops off and my liver is "cleansed." There. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
