RE: CSSolar Minimum is Coming
It is not just a few extra sunspots Mike, the whole solar system is going bonkers. JOH -Original Message- From: Mike Monett [mailto:qjpcgiupu...@spammotel.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSolar Minimum is Coming Mike I think you need to take a chill pill and let others have their opinions with hammering them, you are quite the unkind person, there are many ways to interpret current data on solar activity. The consensus of opinion is that we have been through a four year maxiumum and that the minimum may be quicker in coming than expected. No one really knows. Garnet Garnet, Trying to panic people over fewer sunspots is silly. It's like Chicken Little running around saying The Sky's Not Falling - The Sky's Not Falling. Don't worry about it. Keep the sunnyside up, the cheer in your voice, the spring in your step, the sparkle in your eyes, the hope in your heart, the love in your thoughts, and let the universe take care of the rest. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInquiry
Hallo MA, Ja, Well, No, Maybe. If I were really ill with a chronic problem then I would start off with low doses, say once a day, and monitor my progress. I stop taking CS for a day or two if the going gets tough; but keep at it. In this case of chronic problem then taking lots of strong CS at frequent intervals, might get me into trouble from massive die-off and not being able to detox quickly and easily enough. On the other hand . If I am generally healthy and get the signs of a cold, 'flu, herpes or effects of bad food etc then I would take massive doses of CS and take that often if necessary. ymwv, Tony On 19 Oct 2004 at 12:12, marmar...@aol.com wrote: A friend of mine joined the list not too long ago, and has been quietly reading your posts. As a consequence, he brought something to my attention that I must have missed when I was out of town recently -- and that was that someone on this list said that there is a finite amount of CS that will do a person any good and that one must be careful not to take too much CS too fast, or they will use up their tolerance in a year's time or so, and it will never do them any good again. What the heck is THAT about? I've always heard the opposite -- that neither your body, nor pathogens, can build up a tolerance against CS. Could whoever made this statement please elaborate?MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSBells Palsy
Sally, I don't know which one I was given. I was seeing 2 different chiro's at the time and I only have the notes from the one that didn't give me the shots. They were both quite old when I saw them back in '95 and the guy that gave me the shots has long retired and I don't know where he is. Dave. -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 October 2004 22:47 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy Dave, were the shots with cyanocobalamin or methylcobalamin, or do you know? Thanks,Sally Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com wrote: Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSFloaters in CS
I've made CS that strong and a little stronger that remained colorless but it's a real crapshoot with everything optimal and a lot of luck. My record so far is around 78 uS. I don't have that batch anymore. If I recall, I contaminated it [with backwash while tasting?] after it sat around for a few months and it went deep murky purple over about a weeks time afterwards. I think the slightest little thing will turn very strong CS before it stabilises but once stabile, it stays that way... if left alone. It's really hard to know what's in any given batch of water as none of them are exactly the same even from the same distiller. For quite a while there, I was unable to make a yellow batch even when running the gen till I was bored with it, then suddenly I made a couple out of several batches made very strong that went pale yellow in a few days. Same gen. I found no 'distinct' connection between using water at .4 uS and 5 uS to the stability of the end product, so I'm assuming it's not necessarily 'how' pure the water is but more 'what' whatever the trace impurities are. I have no way of knowing what makes any given batch of water do what it does. The amount of dissolved ozone in the water seems to make a difference as I've made batches with very fresh ozonated commercially distilled water that went yellow but didn't after letting the same water outgass for a few days. [Bubbles formed on the sides of the loosely capped jug] Perhaps running batches in short steps with time periods between steps helps. Continuous slow stirring and current control absolutely dramatically helps. Anyhow, reliable and predictable quality becomes more and more of a problem after around a 20-24 uS stopping point but it's not impossible. Ode At 01:37 PM 10/18/2004 -0400, you wrote: CSFloaters in CS From: Trem (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:30:36 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74101.html Hi Garnet, I believe the floaters are one atom thick and are floating because of surface tension so it appears like a lot but in actuality isn't. You may notice that they disappear when you pour the CS into another container. It's still only silver and water in the mix. I am unable to make colored CS with any of our automatic generators at the high setting. I use water we distill and also buy commercial DW to see how the store brands work. It always is crystal clear and colorless after production. As I've mentioned several times, we have CS that is well over 3 years old with no color change and a minimal drop in conductivity. I even have some that measures 45 uS which is still colorless. Best regards, Trem Trem, 45uS implies 45 ppm - this is twice the value most people get before the cs starts turning yellow! Do you recall anything about how it was made? Can you make it again? Do you think there may be something else in the cs that could be throwing the Hanna off? Is there a possibility something was in the dw that didn't show up during the brew, but increased the conductivity and makes the Hanna read high? Finally, isn't there a circuit that measures the voltage across the cell and shuts the generator off when it reaches the desired conductivity? If so, how did the 45 ppm cs make it past the shutoff setting? Any info you can give would be much appreciated! On the floaters - I get them all the time, but they don't disappear when I pour the cs into another container. They often break through the surface tension and sink to the bottom. If I add H2O2, they give off bubbles slowly for days or weeks. If I add some more H2O2 after they stop, they start again. There may be bubbles that seem to form from nothing on the side or bottom. This tells me the reaction of H2O2 on pure silver is very slow, unlike the reaction with silver oxide, which fizzes and bubbles. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolloidal copper
After a conversation with a Canadian fellow who made colloidal copper with LVDC, I tried what he did and found success. 36 volts for several hours did it. [28 volts didn't] I got a VERY nice TE in the distilled water with only 4.5 uS conductivity. However, after a week or two, the TE diminished and developed sparklies indicating that the particles had clumped together. Virtually no flavor and no color at all. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSfloaters, chunkies and sparklies
Trem incorporates it in his pro unit. I think the Wishgranted 777 uses it instead of stirring and some people don't care for the results much. The CS Pro calls it Pulse Phasic and doesn't use stirring or current control..PPM by timer which doesn't work and they know it. [ without buffering the water with baking soda which DOES make light sensitve silver carbonate despite what is claimed] Ole Bob used to make and sell a home gen that did that years ago, but no longer indulges in the process. I've played with it and actually have the circuit artwork done in surface mount technology. I'm undecided if it's worth it for the home user. Things are complicated enough already and the result isn't substantially better than straight DC. The thing is, frequency at a given voltage is critical to getting a consistant ion to particle ratio and PPM calibration for automatic operation depends on ionic conductivity...a relationship that's already tenuous enough. [But a thousand times better than using timers alone] If frequency is too fast and voltage too low, ions just zap right back onto the electrode. [You can use a higher frequency at higher voltages and you get into the HVAC realms in thousands of volts] Trem says he's using 75 volts in his pro machine. The replying post is correct. So far as I've found, no DC chips will handle more than 36 volts. There are ways around that no doubt and Trems Pro unit costs around $500..probably for good reasons that make small home units economically unfeasable. [Where is the SG8?] Going slower results in periodic puffs of particles coming off both electrodes and nice clean electrodes but lots of crud in the water. [that dissipates and/or settles] Going slower still makes for both electrodes turning black. 45 to 60 second cycles seem to do the best at a 28 volt starting point. The velocity of the ions leaving the electrodes, hence the field size and density that develops around the electrodes depends on voltage and current control constantly changes those voltages. There's another complication. Since the particle to ion ratio is controlled by the size and density of a field developing around the electrodes and stirring disrupts that field Varying stir rates changes everything. Change the batch size and stir rates change. Though all batches turned out nice, some exceptionally nice and none went yellow I found it very difficult to make one batch resemble the next. Since particle to ion ratios were obviously varying with any change anywhere, I have no way of knowing with ANY degree of certainty what PPM the result is at any given conductivity. Toss the meter right out the windowforget it. One batch that pleases me to the extreme meters at 14.5 uS but the TE is almost like skim milk. It could be 50 PPM. [30?, 100?..no clue]..and have yet to make another like it. IMO, the process shows promise but could require an instruction manual as thick as a book to get reasonably repeatable results. I suppose a set batch size and set stir rate and no way to vary the process would help consistancy...but that limits versatility. I dunno..still pondering if it's worth the complications when straight current controlled DC with stirring does very nicely and the only real advantage to LVDC polarity swapping is cleaner electrodes. That is, it's a fun Gee Whiz toy for me, but can picky Mr and Ms Average handle it? Then too, using surface mount tech requires robot assembly. The parts are too small to handle and there are a LOT more of them involved. That means a substantial investment in short run production that I cannot do myself without tweezers and a jewlers loup...or...mega quantities. To make it worth while 'production wise' and keep the generator price down under $200, I'd be stocked up with PC boards for the next ten years and eating beans for a while. [I already live on the DIY cheap] Staying with through hole technology means that signature package compactness goes out the window. I have a few ideas on that score. maybe maybe Ode At 10:27 PM 10/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: Evening Ode, Swapping the polarity of the electrodes just blows all that stuff into the water...no big deal, but looks sorta ugly ... for a while. I have been following all this with interest not sure whether I am being educated or confused. If the polarity swapping was of great value, it could be automated by circuit design, could it not? The interval of the reversing could even be variable. Seems some experimenting soul would have done it already. Wayne --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive:
Re: CSresidual cough, higher ppm CS, was Re: CSchanging subject,breaking threads
It could be that 10 PPM doesn't present as much as 20 PPM to membranes before all that water hits the gut? Sipping 10 PPM slowly over a period of time should make up the absortion rate difference. If the kill rate doesn't exceed the replication rate of the bugs, the cold may not get as bad as it would have without using CS, but still progress. If you do use CS, you'll not know what would have happened without it and vice versa. A friends case of strep made him feel like crap for a few days while continuously using small amounts of CS in a spray bottle [but he stayed on the construction job] while his friends, who all got sick at the same place at the same time, stayed in bed completely miserable and on prescription meds for weeks. Ode At 11:03 PM 10/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: Are you nebulizing, with an actual nebulizer, DMSO and CS. That made a big difference for me when first getting on CS. Since I take it every day I seem to be not getting any colds or flus although I have had a fever blister or two try to come up, but with DMSO CS those dry up immeidately as well. I can not think of any reason twice as much 10 ppm would not be as effective as 20 ppm. But heck, why should it follow reason? Have you tried mixing it with Gatorade or oral DMSO? Seems to me that pervention is far easier than cure. Thyme oil is also a great EO to use with Oregano. My dog had a fungus on his face near his mouth. Even DMSO and CS did not control it. But Thyme and Oregano oil did, maybe because it stayed there longer when the DMSO and CS was rapidly absorbed. Garnet On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 22:42, sol wrote: Mike, I have just brewed up some higher ppm EIS, haven't started with it yet. 10-12 ppm was working extremely well for me for a long time. I don't know why simply using more of the 10 ppm didn't work as well as 20 ppm. However a quart a day of 10 ppm or so did not shorten the life of the cold. Any idea why a quart of 10 ppm wouldn't equal a pint of 20 ppm? Were you using more of the lower ppm and less of the 20 ppm for your shingles? Still have the cough. Still no secondary infections. I've now dropped back to my normal daily intake/use of EIS, but am spraying my hands and eyes very religiously. Don't want to let another bug slip past. In retrospect several things combined to allow this oneone good thing to come of this for me was the suggestion for Oregano oil, looking it up, it is said to be a good substitute for Caprylic acid for candida. It was a real shock to get such a bad cold, and not be able to stop it. Here it is, going into the 4th week and the dregs and the cough are still lingering. It does make me wonder what the heck kind of supercold this was/is. A couple of months into using EIS, before starting the misting with it, a cold got me, but all I did then was swish and hold EIS in my mouth as long as possible, every 15 min for 4 hours, and that turned it around, though it lasted the typical 7 days..now that I reflect, that was higher ppm EIS, much closer to 20 ppm than what I've been making the past year. Apparently for some people or some bugs, higher ppm IS better. (Mike D also suggested upping the ppm). I had dropped the ppm as it is faster and easier to keep it clear by keeping it closer to 10 ppm. Perhaps not a good idea. sol Mike Monett wrote: How is your cough doing? Have you had time to think of increasing the ppm, or does that sound like a silly idea for some reason? Actually, maybe it's my imagination, but I seem to be reading more posts from people talking about infections that are resistant to cs. I ran into the same thing with a residual infection from Shingles. The 10ppm cs from 3 nines just wouldn't kill it, but it disappeared three days after I tried my first 20ppm cs. I think the reason is I am simply getting older, and the immune system just needs stronger cs to cope with infections. Hope you are feeling better! Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
This is was written by 3 reporters who saw the conference presentation of Glen A. Gordon, MD. As with any article written by reporters one has to be careful to try and avoid reporter's errors. He apprently provided cites, but the reporters did not give them, but simply indicated that cites were given. However looking at it, I could not find these glaring flaws you are speaking about. We all know that laser light, zappers and magnetic pulsing are good tools to use for healing, so this information is neither new, nor surprising. There are a few things, which I attribute to the reporters, such as dc triangle pulses, which I assume to mean unipolar triangular pulses. What do you find so inaccurate? Perhaps it is simply a matter of interpretation. Marshall Mike Monett wrote: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments From: Marshall Dudley Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:19:42 Marshall, Almost every sentence contains multiple flaws: unprovable claims, contradictions, gross errors in electromagnetics, unattributable results, simple technobabble and obvious hype. I would expect more of an ex-nuclear engineer and supplier of cs products. I thought you could do better. Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBells Palsy
If you want to reduce inflamation, taking bromelain (a digestive enzyme extracted from the pineapple plant) when taken with water on an empty stomach is very effective. Easiest to take perhaps 500 gdu first thing in the morning and last thing at night, possibly once in the day also. I wouldn't keep up this dose for more than a week though... Dan CSBells Palsy From: bbanever (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:59:28 Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
Dan: Years ago I built a pulsating electromagnetic machine in my shop based on the idea I got from the Rife machine. In the few occasions I have used it, it has worked well. My wife got relief from her incontinence problem. A friend from his arthritis, and of course my own problems. I am spending more time with colloidals now and haven't taken time to continue with it. It pulses at 8 hertz, (the earths pulse) but I plan to change it to a variable pulse. Bill Amos -- I believe that EM healing and Rife type healing, in some form, is a fact. This is from my own experience from devices I have made and experimented with myself. (e.g.: the Zapper and MagPulser devices) I know they work and they have had effects on myself and other people. Granted, they have not been developed into a sophisticated process and have not been explained properly. As far as the Zero Point Energy is concerned. It is not here and it is not well developed. There is a lot of talk and a lot of pseudo theory, e.g.: Tom Bearden. However, The proof is in the pudding and in this case there is very little pudding. (In fact, there is no pudding.) Dan RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments From: David W Kenney (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:54:25 Marshall Mike: Sounds like trying to spread disinformation to me. Free Energy is here and well developed. Pulsed EM Healing is here... Check out Royal Rife for healing... And Tom Bearden for free energy and all of its developments...including WMD's. The pulsed EM healing which probably also has scalar EM energy...developed by Dr. Rife and further enhanced by myriads of physicists, electrical engineers, etc. are a phenomenal enhancement to Colloidal Silver therapy which, although great...have major limitations most of which EM resonant therapy fills in. Dr. Dave Kenney -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS75th anniversary of Black Thursday, 1929; -- OT
Hello, Members of the List, This weekend marks the 75th anniversary of the great stock market crash that culminated in the panic sell-off of October 24, 1929. This should be OT, I suppose, but it seems to me that it may pass without mention. If anybody has first-hand or second-hand recollections of this event or its consequences, it may benefit young people in the future to leave a record of the impact of that event as you recall it. Thanks. Matthew
CS[List Owner] A couple more remarks...
Hello again, my Silver List friends, I want to remind everyone how the Off Topic List works, so you can all feel comfortable moving discussions there, easily and often. *EVERY MEMBER* of the regular Silver List is already approved to post to the Off Topic List. You don't have to subscribe if you don't want to get e-mail from it. You can read the OT list at the archives: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html Postings go to this address: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com If you want to get the OT list in e-mail, simply go to the Silver List web site, click on the Off Topic List link, and follow the instructions there. If you run into any problems, contact me. *ALL* of the addresses I talk about above are in the footer at the bottom of this and *EVERY* message from the Silver List! Right now, the topics that have sprung up that are obvious candidates for continuation on the OT list are the Solar activity and Pulsed Magnetic Therapy threads. The best thing to do when you want to move, is post a short reply on the main list saying you'll be answering on the OT list. The rest of the participants ought to respond to the first or second such suggestion and follow. Then be patient as everyone else catches up with their e-mail over the next day or so and learn that the thread is moving. The key thing to understand is that *** everybody that WANTS to talk about these topics is already signed up and monitoring the OT list ***! The only audience you will lose by moving are those who are not interested. Again, I don't keep the reins too tight on this stuff, because I want the list to remain active, flexible, and helpful. But when we're getting dozens of messages per day and starting to see a big fraction of them being Off Topic, it's time for you to consider the needs of those who are focused on Colloidal Silver and don't have the energy or patience to deal with what they will see as noise. Okay people? Let's be about it! * Mike Devour Silver List Owner * Anyone else here readers of David Weber's Honor Harrington novels? If so, talk to me about it on the OT LIST!!! GRIN [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScolloidal copper
Copper is very quickly toxic. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScolloidal copper After a conversation with a Canadian fellow who made colloidal copper with LVDC, I tried what he did and found success. 36 volts for several hours did it. [28 volts didn't] I got a VERY nice TE in the distilled water with only 4.5 uS conductivity. However, after a week or two, the TE diminished and developed sparklies indicating that the particles had clumped together. Virtually no flavor and no color at all. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
I believe that EM healing and Rife type healing, in some form, is a fact. This is from my own experience from devices I have made and experimented with myself. (e.g.: the Zapper and MagPulser devices) I know they work and they have had effects on myself and other people. Granted, they have not been developed into a sophisticated process and have not been explained properly. As far as the Zero Point Energy is concerned. It is not here and it is not well developed. There is a lot of talk and a lot of pseudo theory, e.g.: Tom Bearden. However, The proof is in the pudding and in this case there is very little pudding. (In fact, there is no pudding.) Dan RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments From: David W Kenney (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:54:25 Marshall Mike: Sounds like trying to spread disinformation to me. Free Energy is here and well developed. Pulsed EM Healing is here... Check out Royal Rife for healing... And Tom Bearden for free energy and all of its developments...including WMD's. The pulsed EM healing which probably also has scalar EM energy...developed by Dr. Rife and further enhanced by myriads of physicists, electrical engineers, etc. are a phenomenal enhancement to Colloidal Silver therapy which, although great...have major limitations most of which EM resonant therapy fills in. Dr. Dave Kenney -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
I am sorry...but EM/Rife Healing is here and very well developed...as is free energy. Tom Bearden has crusaded for 2 decades to get the government to stop the coverup and eliminate the need for oil. Unfortunately, the MONEY POWER are against this for some reason. You might want to read some of Bearden's books...and check out Nina Silver's book...and check out Keelynet. Dr. Kenney === I believe that EM healing and Rife type healing, in some form, is a fact. This is from my own experience from devices I have made and experimented with myself. (e.g.: the Zapper and MagPulser devices) I know they work and they have had effects on myself and other people. Granted, they have not been developed into a sophisticated process and have not been explained properly. As far as the Zero Point Energy is concerned. It is not here and it is not well developed. There is a lot of talk and a lot of pseudo theory, e.g.: Tom Bearden. However, The proof is in the pudding and in this case there is very little pudding. (In fact, there is no pudding.) Dan RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments From: David W Kenney (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:54:25 Marshall Mike: Sounds like trying to spread disinformation to me. Free Energy is here and well developed. Pulsed EM Healing is here... Check out Royal Rife for healing... And Tom Bearden for free energy and all of its developments...including WMD's. The pulsed EM healing which probably also has scalar EM energy...developed by Dr. Rife and further enhanced by myriads of physicists, electrical engineers, etc. are a phenomenal enhancement to Colloidal Silver therapy which, although great...have major limitations most of which EM resonant therapy fills in. Dr. Dave Kenney -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
Zero-Point Energy in relation to healing; check out tachyon energy tools from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, these emit healing energy which cannot be measured in the Hertzian frequency spectrum. Tachyon energy, the very first energetic structure that emerges out of non-structured, formless Zero-Point Energy. I use a variety of these tools since 2000, the use of these has dramatically changed my life for the better - on so many levels. Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: I believe that EM healing and Rife type healing, in some form, is a fact. This is from my own experience from devices I have made and experimented with myself. (e.g.: the Zapper and MagPulser devices) I know they work and they have had effects on myself and other people. Granted, they have not been developed into a sophisticated process and have not been explained properly. As far as the Zero Point Energy is concerned. It is not here and it is not well developed. There is a lot of talk and a lot of pseudo theory, e.g.: Tom Bearden. However, The proof is in the pudding and in this case there is very little pudding. (In fact, there is no pudding.) Dan RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments From: David W Kenney (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:54:25 Marshall Mike: Sounds like trying to spread disinformation to me. Free Energy is here and well developed. Pulsed EM Healing is here... Check out Royal Rife for healing... And Tom Bearden for free energy and all of its developments...including WMD's. The pulsed EM healing which probably also has scalar EM energy...developed by Dr. Rife and further enhanced by myriads of physicists, electrical engineers, etc. are a phenomenal enhancement to Colloidal Silver therapy which, although great...have major limitations most of which EM resonant therapy fills in. Dr. Dave Kenney -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!
Re: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
Reading the emails on this topic has me wondering... and I apologize since this is so far OT for this list, but would greatly appreciate thoughts/input here or privately... a person I know has a dog with the most incredible, awful growth of warts on her face I have ever seen, and would not have believed possible. They've been growing extremely virulently over the past few months, and the vet has tried everything, from regular to laser surgery, to what I think are probably interferon injections into the lesions, and nothing is helping. The photo she sent is absolutely horrific. People are trying to brainstorm and see what homeopathic and alternative things could be done to help, and reading the posts about LED and EM treatments has me wondering if they might have a possible application with this dog. I think the owners are totally mainstream in their beliefs, but are at a point of desperation, this is probably close to becoming life-threatening, and may consider something more 'out there' for help. If someone has any suggestions and specific information, I would be very grateful to hear from you. My email is deni...@citlink.net Thanks, Denise - Original Message - From: Ole Alstrup To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments Zero-Point Energy in relation to healing; check out tachyon energy tools from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, these emit healing energy which cannot be measured in the Hertzian frequency spectrum. Tachyon energy, the very first energetic structure that emerges out of non-structured, formless Zero-Point Energy. I use a variety of these tools since 2000, the use of these has dramatically changed my life for the better - on so many levels. Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: I believe that EM healing and Rife type healing, in some form, is a fact. This is from my own experience from devices I have made and experimented with myself. (e.g.: the Zapper and MagPulser devices) I know they work and they have had effects on myself and other people. Granted, they have not been developed into a sophisticated process and have not been explained properly. As far as the Zero Point Energy is concerned. It is not here and it is not well developed. There is a lot of talk and a lot of pseudo theory, e.g.: Tom Bearden. However, The proof is in the pudding and in this case there is very little pudding. (In fact, there is no pudding.) Dan RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments From: David W Kenney (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:54:25 Marshall Mike: Sounds like trying to spread disinformation to me. Free Energy is here and well developed. Pulsed EM Healing is here... Check out Royal Rife for healing... And Tom Bearden for free energy and all of its developments...including WMD's. The pulsed EM healing which probably also has scalar EM energy...developed by Dr. Rife and further enhanced by myriads of physicists, electrical engineers, etc. are a phenomenal enhancement to Colloidal Silver therapy which, although great...have major limitations most of which EM resonant therapy fills in. Dr. Dave Kenney -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Top! ic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!
RE: CSBells Palsy
Ok, thanks Dave. Sally Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com wrote: Sally, I don't know which one I was given. I was seeing 2 different chiro's at the time and I only have the notes from the one that didn't give me the shots. They were both quite old when I saw them back in '95 and the guy that gave me the shots has long retired and I don't know where he is. Dave. -Original Message- From: Sally Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 October 2004 22:47 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy Dave, were the shots with cyanocobalamin or methylcobalamin, or do you know? Thanks,Sally Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com wrote: Kris, Sorry to hear you have had Bells Palsy for 18 years.! I can imaging this is a big strain on life, but don't give up hope..I, personally, would never take the steroids. If they suppress your immune system, this is possibly why you are not getting better?? Have you tried vitamin B12 shots in your arm? The GP can give you these if you ask. If you have had this for 18 years isn't it worth a shot? (pun intended). B12 should improve your immune system and hopefully repair any nerve damage. You will probably need to have them at least once a month for 3-4 months. Before you ask - 'yes' I have had this treatment and it made an enormous difference. The GP also tested me for B12 deficiency and the levels were OK. Above all - remember never to give up hope. Take care, D. Kristie Mitchell [mailto:losti...@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2004 07:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBells Palsy I hope that your information can help this gentleman and his Bells Palsy. And I hope he fairs better than me. At this point of the disease, it is unlikely that there is hope for me, but I always hope for the future. Kris - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/18/2004 10:55:02 PM Subject: CSBells Palsy Kris, This is not true. As I previously stated acupuncture can be curative for Bells Palsy. In addition, depending on the cause of the condition, CS and a CS/DMSO mixture appled topically can also do the trick. If a virus or bacteria is the cause then killing it will cure it. Herbs such as sanguinaria root (blood root), garlic (allicin), chapparral and others may also be of benefit. Steroids only reduce inflammation but do nothing to get rid of the cause. Acupuncture will also reduce inflammation and relieve pain while stimulating the immune system to attack the microbe. Bells Palsy can also be caused by trauma, stroke, or other disease conditions affecting the facial branch of the trigeminal nerve. Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
I al;so used them, but didn't get any measurable results. Still have a wrist band and several beads. Maybe didn't use them correctly. Sally Ole Alstrup alst...@yahoo.com wrote: Zero-Point Energy in relation to healing; check out tachyon energy tools from Advanced Tachyon Technologies, these emit healing energy which cannot be measured in the Hertzian frequency spectrum. Tachyon energy, the very first energetic structure that emerges out of non-structured, formless Zero-Point Energy. I use a variety of these tools since 2000, the use of these has dramatically changed my life for the better - on so many levels. Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: I believe that EM healing and Rife type healing, in some form, is a fact. This is from my own experience from devices I have made and experimented with myself. (e.g.: the Zapper and MagPulser devices) I know they work and they have had effects on myself and other people. Granted, they have not been developed into a sophisticated process and have not been explained properly. As far as the Zero Point Energy is concerned. It is not here and it is not well developed. There is a lot of talk and a lot of pseudo theory, e.g.: Tom Bearden. However, The proof is in the pudding and in this case there is very little pudding. (In fact, there is no pudding.) Dan RE: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments From: David W Kenney (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:54:25 Marshall Mike: Sounds like trying to spread disinformation to me. Free Energy is here and well developed. Pulsed EM Healing is here... Check out Royal Rife for healing... And Tom Bearden for free energy and all of its developments...including WMD's. The pulsed EM healing which probably also has scalar EM energy...developed by Dr. Rife and further enhanced by myriads of physicists, electrical engineers, etc. are a phenomenal enhancement to Colloidal Silver therapy which, although great...have major limitations most of which EM resonant therapy fills in. Dr. Dave Kenney -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Top! ic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSDMSO-DRAGON breath
on 18/10/2004 4:05 PM, sol at sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Let us know the results! sol Results of urea/DMSO test. I'm very glad to report great success with this mixture. Yesterday I liberally splashed the mixture all over my hands and after allowing several minutes for it to be absorbed I breathed heavily in a (very good) friends face. He reported absolutely no smell on my breath and no body odour that he could detect. I on my part noticed the absence of the 'garlic' taste in my mouth which could be another bonus. All this is quite remarkable as the mixture in the bottle still smelled vile? Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOxy Life Oxygen
There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPulsed Electromagnetic Healing Developments
CS/DMSO has got rid of warts for me. It is slow, not an overnight cure by any means, might have gone faster if I had remembered to put it on twice a day regularly (I only applied it when I remembered) but I wonder if it could help the dog. sol Denise Every wrote: Reading the emails on this topic has me wondering... and I apologize since this is so far OT for this list, but would greatly appreciate thoughts/input here or privately... a person I know has a dog with the most incredible, awful growth of warts on her face I have ever seen, and would not have believed possible. They've been growing extremely virulently over the past few months, and the vet has tried everything, from regular to laser surgery, to what I think are probably interferon injections into the lesions, and nothing is helping. The photo she sent is absolutely horrific. Thanks, Denise! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen
When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. DMSO is primarily a carrier...meaning that whatever you mix into it is carried into the body. CS + DMSO on the skin means more actually gets systemic than just CS. If you mix anything that is at all nephrotoxic (kidney)...it will reach the kidneys in higher concentration than it would otherwise. Where it is used as a solvent and people were putting their hands and arms in the solutions every day I never heard of reports of kidney damage due to DMSO itself. This doesn't mean it does not happen...only that I keep my eye peeled for nephrotoxicity (I have only one) and haven't come across it. Dr. Kenney == There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOxy Life Oxygen
DMSO is not kidney toxic. It is safer than aspirin and take 40,000 times the therapeutic dose to reach toxicity. Garnet On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 19:27, Betsy Coffey wrote: There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO-DRAGON breath
It must change the way DMSO is metabolized in the body? So please Roger, tell us again what exactly you did, for the sake of clarity. And may I post this to the DMSO list? Thanks, Garnet On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 19:27, Roger Barker wrote: on 18/10/2004 4:05 PM, sol at sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Let us know the results! sol Results of urea/DMSO test. I'm very glad to report great success with this mixture. Yesterday I liberally splashed the mixture all over my hands and after allowing several minutes for it to be absorbed I breathed heavily in a (very good) friends face. He reported absolutely no smell on my breath and no body odour that he could detect. I on my part noticed the absence of the 'garlic' taste in my mouth which could be another bonus. All this is quite remarkable as the mixture in the bottle still smelled vile? Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen
Perhaps it came from those using industrial DMSO that could be contaminate with Acetone. Acetone is kidney toxic. I use vet grade, and although it has a disclaimer about it being a solvent it is not industrial grade. Garnet On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 21:19, David W Kenney wrote: When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. DMSO is primarily a carrier...meaning that whatever you mix into it is carried into the body. CS + DMSO on the skin means more actually gets systemic than just CS. If you mix anything that is at all nephrotoxic (kidney)...it will reach the kidneys in higher concentration than it would otherwise. Where it is used as a solvent and people were putting their hands and arms in the solutions every day I never heard of reports of kidney damage due to DMSO itself. This doesn't mean it does not happen...only that I keep my eye peeled for nephrotoxicity (I have only one) and haven't come across it. Dr. Kenney == There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO-DRAGON breath
Hi Garnet, for the test I mixed urea and distilled water together till I got a saturated solution. Next I mixed DMSO and distilled water together giving a 50/50 mix. To this mix I added 20% of the urea/distilled water mix. All I have to to do now is reduce the urea mix to 10% and see how that works. Please feel free to post any of this to the DMSO list. Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html on 21/10/2004 3:56 PM, Garnet at garnetri...@earthlink.net wrote: It must change the way DMSO is metabolized in the body? So please Roger, tell us again what exactly you did, for the sake of clarity. And may I post this to the DMSO list? Thanks, Garnet On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 19:27, Roger Barker wrote: on 18/10/2004 4:05 PM, sol at sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Let us know the results! sol Results of urea/DMSO test. I'm very glad to report great success with this mixture. Yesterday I liberally splashed the mixture all over my hands and after allowing several minutes for it to be absorbed I breathed heavily in a (very good) friends face. He reported absolutely no smell on my breath and no body odour that he could detect. I on my part noticed the absence of the 'garlic' taste in my mouth which could be another bonus. All this is quite remarkable as the mixture in the bottle still smelled vile? Cheers, Roger http://lbarker.orcon.net.nz/index1.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen
Where did you get the information about one person going blind. Please produce a reference, or STFU. -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. DMSO is primarily a carrier...meaning that whatever you mix into it is carried into the body. CS + DMSO on the skin means more actually gets systemic than just CS. If you mix anything that is at all nephrotoxic (kidney)...it will reach the kidneys in higher concentration than it would otherwise. Where it is used as a solvent and people were putting their hands and arms in the solutions every day I never heard of reports of kidney damage due to DMSO itself. This doesn't mean it does not happen...only that I keep my eye peeled for nephrotoxicity (I have only one) and haven't come across it. Dr. Kenney == There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOxy Life Oxygen
I believe that is oncorrect, I don't recall that any human has ever had eye problems from DMSO let alone gone blind. I think that info was actually from a flawed study in rabbits. But I'm going from memory here, I can look it up if you don't have the book. sol David W Kenney wrote: When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen
It was about 30 years ago shortly after the first reports of DMSO helping arthritic patients came out. I used to have the source but unfortunately my house burned down last December...and all of my references, sources, etc. are now ashes. Dr. Kenney PS: It was a big deal at the time and the report almost caused DMSO not to be released for topical use at the time. I am sure there have been many studies on DMSO since then and know that it is used topically, orally and even IV by some. I should spend the time looking up all these references again...but have not had the time. Where did you get the information about one person going blind. Please produce a reference, or STFU. -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. DMSO is primarily a carrier...meaning that whatever you mix into it is carried into the body. CS + DMSO on the skin means more actually gets systemic than just CS. If you mix anything that is at all nephrotoxic (kidney)...it will reach the kidneys in higher concentration than it would otherwise. Where it is used as a solvent and people were putting their hands and arms in the solutions every day I never heard of reports of kidney damage due to DMSO itself. This doesn't mean it does not happen...only that I keep my eye peeled for nephrotoxicity (I have only one) and haven't come across it. Dr. Kenney == There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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No...one person did go blind and almost caused DMSO to be taken off the market totally. This all happened when they first learned of its properties to relieve inflammation (and pain) in arthritis which is how it was usually used. People would rub it on sore joints. It wasn't rabbits. However since there have been few if any problems with DMSO in the last 30 years it suggests that DMSO wasn't the etiology of the blindness anyway. This is much like the study of Ivomectin in animals. In the studies of 10,000 or so dogs...1 collie died. So it is not approved for collies. However...the average age of the whole group was higher than that expected for the number of animals studied and the length of the study...so in effect they could have added the wording Extends lifespan if they so desired and would have been correct as far as the research was concerned. And, the collie might well have died a natural death rather than it being caused by the drug. This is a problem with any study, is it not? === I believe that is oncorrect, I don't recall that any human has ever had eye problems from DMSO let alone gone blind. I think that info was actually from a flawed study in rabbits. But I'm going from memory here, I can look it up if you don't have the book. sol David W Kenney wrote: When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOxy Life Oxygen
This is the second report of a list-member's house burning down.Did you by chance have any professional relationship with the other unfortunate person? On Thursday, Oct 21, 2004, at 13:59 Asia/Tokyo, David W Kenney wrote: It was about 30 years ago shortly after the first reports of DMSO helping arthritic patients came out. I used to have the source but unfortunately my house burned down last December...and all of my references, sources, etc. are now ashes. Dr. Kenney PS: It was a big deal at the time and the report almost caused DMSO not to be released for topical use at the time. I am sure there have been many studies on DMSO since then and know that it is used topically, orally and even IV by some. I should spend the time looking up all these references again...but have not had the time. Where did you get the information about one person going blind. Please produce a reference, or STFU. -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. DMSO is primarily a carrier...meaning that whatever you mix into it is carried into the body. CS + DMSO on the skin means more actually gets systemic than just CS. If you mix anything that is at all nephrotoxic (kidney)...it will reach the kidneys in higher concentration than it would otherwise. Where it is used as a solvent and people were putting their hands and arms in the solutions every day I never heard of reports of kidney damage due to DMSO itself. This doesn't mean it does not happen...only that I keep my eye peeled for nephrotoxicity (I have only one) and haven't come across it. Dr. Kenney == There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen
No...but it seems to run in my family. My brother (and MD) had his house burn down in the San Diego Fires. My Neice had hers burn down in the Oakland fires. Oh well, 70 years of stuff gone... That's life isn't it? D -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOxy Life Oxygen This is the second report of a list-member's house burning down.Did you by chance have any professional relationship with the other unfortunate person? On Thursday, Oct 21, 2004, at 13:59 Asia/Tokyo, David W Kenney wrote: It was about 30 years ago shortly after the first reports of DMSO helping arthritic patients came out. I used to have the source but unfortunately my house burned down last December...and all of my references, sources, etc. are now ashes. Dr. Kenney PS: It was a big deal at the time and the report almost caused DMSO not to be released for topical use at the time. I am sure there have been many studies on DMSO since then and know that it is used topically, orally and even IV by some. I should spend the time looking up all these references again...but have not had the time. Where did you get the information about one person going blind. Please produce a reference, or STFU. -Original Message- From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSOxy Life Oxygen When DMSO first became popular years ago...as a local treatment for arthritis...they did some preliminary studies...and one person went blind. I haven't heard that anyone repeated these studies to find out whether that person was going blind anyway or whether it was caused by the DMSO. DMSO is primarily a carrier...meaning that whatever you mix into it is carried into the body. CS + DMSO on the skin means more actually gets systemic than just CS. If you mix anything that is at all nephrotoxic (kidney)...it will reach the kidneys in higher concentration than it would otherwise. Where it is used as a solvent and people were putting their hands and arms in the solutions every day I never heard of reports of kidney damage due to DMSO itself. This doesn't mean it does not happen...only that I keep my eye peeled for nephrotoxicity (I have only one) and haven't come across it. Dr. Kenney == There has been alot of discussion about mixing colloidal silver and dmso together. I was wondering if anyone had ever heard of a product called Oxy life put out by Dr. Dosbach? It has aloe,oxygen and colloidal silver. It sounds like a pretty good product. Also has anyone heard of a product called cell food? someone mentioned that using 99% dmso was unsafe for the kidneys. Should this be diluted? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
